Arizona Assassin is a LEFTIST
In case anyone has been living under a rock today - and judging by at least half-a-dozen comments, there were a few, the tragedy in Arizona Saturday was perpetrated by a member of the left wing hate machine, not a right wing extremist.
- His youtube.com account contains "favorite" videos of flag burning;
- His favorite books are listed as the Communist Manifesto by Marx (left wing) and Hitler's Mein Kampf (left wing);
- He is a self described atheist and hates the Constitution;
- His former classmates describe him as a "dope head" and "extremely liberal;"
And yet the lib-tards are insisting Tea Party activists must have had something to do with this:
- Krugman in the New York Times;
- Jane Fonda on twitter;
- AZ State Rep Linda Lopez (D);
- the local sheriff who promised not to enforce immigration law;
- The Daily Kos has scrubbed its entire website of articles published saying Representative Gifford was "dead to us" because she voted against the continuation of Pelosi as leader of the democrats;
We have had our regular troll(s) blaming everyone on the right, call us Tea Party members, baby-murderers, klansmen, Beck/O'Reilly/Rush supporters, etc. It gets tedious and boring but we guess tiny brained asshats have to find their entertainment where they can, even if it never sees the light of day. In any event, remember, it was a mentally unstable left-wing nut job slaughtering people in Arizona. Any other interpretation is bullshit.
Labels: national politics
posted by SCC at 12:02 AM
64 Comments:
never let the truth or the facts get in the way of an emotional liberal.
The current economic conditions are causing the mentally unstable to go Full Tilt. I predict congress to enact legislation to assign bodyguards to elected officials. They'll use private security (off duty law enforcement).
This attack will provoke other nut-jobs.
I agree with everything you say about the MSM and their selected meme of blaming the shooting on the right except for one detail; Hitler's version of fascism absolutely cannot be described as left-wing. Socialism and Communism are considered left-wing (extremely left-wing) while the fascism of Adolph Hitler was extremely right-wing. His admiration of both "The Communist Manifesto" and "Mein Kampf" is somewhat puzzling, since they actually do represent opposite ends of the political spectrum. The "Chicago Boyz" blog had a good piece on the probably mentality of the shooter, and how his muddled political views were so predictable.
Holy shit! Somebody finally figured out that both the Communist Manifesto by Marx and Hitler's Mein Kampf are left wing. So is President Osama's capitalist socialism. They all want to make slaves of the working people.
Of course he is a leftist. Did you see him burning OUR flag? What a jag.
i almost puked when i watched Keith Olberman's comments on the incident last night. i'm suprised he didn't blame Santa as well for bringing kids the games to teach them how to kill people on Christmas.
To the unpublished "shaken" individual:
Maybe you haven't been reading the media comments across the Internet today. We have and we'll just say the lib-tards are being completely true to Rahm's maxim of never letting a crisis go to waste. We notice how it's only a thought crime when the Right defends itself against baseless accusations, but never when it's the left making them. We didn't frame the debate, but we'll be damned if we're going to have committed delusional leftists pop up in our comment sections, quote BS attacks on the Right and let it pass without a response.
while the fascism of Adolph Hitler was extremely right-wing. His admiration of both "The Communist Manifesto" and "Mein Kampf" is somewhat puzzling, since they actually do represent opposite ends of the political spectrum.
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Negative! National Socialism was a left-wing ideology. The Nazi's were leftists. Now stop parroting what the left-wing media says.
Leftists here have always been violent. Always have been, always will be. What they believe in is just too important to leave to chance or you stupid Americans.
His admiration of both "The Communist Manifesto" and "Mein Kampf" is somewhat puzzling, since they actually do represent opposite ends of the political spectrum.
It isn't confusing if you open your mind to the fact that Hitler was a committed leftist. Bigger central government, heavy social spending on the elderly and infirm, nationalizing industry, an equal disbursement of corporate profits, massive government spending on schools.
Any of that sound familiar on the Right? Nope, not at all. In fact, here's Adolph in his own words:
"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions." --Adolf Hitler
(Speech of May 1, 1927. Quoted by Toland, 1976, p. 306)
That could have been written by any left-wing speechwriter today.
Phil Schitz is correct. The people have had their jobs exported to China by the Bush/Clinton/Daley crowd.
Now Obama and Boehner will destroy the remnant of the middle class with "austerity" programs....watch.
Tragedies like this will become more common and are symptomatic of the coming chaos.
Judging from viewing his youtube video before it was put down, I think he has serious mental reservations. This kid had serious mental problems. Let us not forget the brave souls that were murdered and seriously injured. A nine year old was shot to death on that day. Think about that, a nine year old.
SCC, I commend you for your politeness on this. The left is beyond scum. I couldn't believe watching the news this morning. ABC made it very clear that they were not going to blame this on his obvious left wing/lunatic agenda. ABC blamed this on Conservative Rhetoric. Like you said the Left never lets a tragedy go to waste. Look for a power grab by the left to take away free speech on the radio. The RINOS on the right will cave in fast.
He was trained by "Leftisthebest"
YA BRO! GO
Only a brain dead individual can be a liberal.
Rahm Emmanuel: “You never want a serious crisis to go to waste." ..
The libtards will be using this tragic incident to their advantage.
Regardless of her politics, the shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords is a horrible event for all Americans...we voice our opinions at the ballot box, not from a gun barrel. In spite of this tragedy, watch out: if (God forbid) there are "copycats" and more such incidents occur, there may be a major push for more gun control. Now would be a good time to buy more guns (if you wish), and especially cases of ammo. The amount of ammo that gun stores can purchase is limited by federal law, thanks to the Clinton administration. Don't wait until they run out....
If you take the time to look at all the assassins in U.S. History, you find they are almost all Leftists with the possible, but not absolute, exception of Booth.
Hitler was neither a socialist nor a capitalist, he was a sociopath. many of these derange people will hide under the cover of some political affiliation, however, their common element is mental illness. this young man had all the signs of a mentally disturbed individual. we just don't always read or want to face the signs.
SCC:
I know that paragraph; you have to read the whole book. There's no way you can mistake it for a left-wing manifesto. Hitler wrote a lot of random stuff in there because he, well, he wasn't quite "with it." His ideals are completely incompatible with any sort of coherent left-wing thought.
Daily Kos does suck, though, no disagreement there.
The minute, the very minute I saw the news about this, I sez' to my self " some how it's gonna be blamed on the tea party " Naw' your just paranoid ", don't be silly! Well, well, well, howza' bout that?
The left is busy trying to tag the right with this atrocity. I suspect some are actually celebrating, I'm sure Sarah (Bradey) got a tingle.
The Congressperson sounded like a centrist that was pro 2nd and for border enforcement. She once was a Republican and now is a Democrat. She sure didn't seem like the type of person left or right no matter how far on the fringe would go after.
The shooter sounds like just another wack job that had his own voices in his head. I doubt those voices came from the DNC or the RNC
I do hope they have capital punishment in AZ. Killing a kid.
"His admiration of both "The Communist Manifesto" and "Mein Kampf" is somewhat puzzling, since they actually do represent opposite ends of the political spectrum."
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Obviously you are unaware that the Nazi party was the National SOCIALIST party.
Actually the shooter appears to be a mentally ill nut with political leanings from the left to the right to Mars and perhaps even Jupiter.
He's clearly FUTZ.
It will be interesting to see what if anything the alleged accomplice was motivated by. Seems to be a scraggly looking guy in his 50's.
One thing is clear whether it was liberals calling for harm to happen to President Bush or people who claim to be conservatives placing targets over their 'enemies' there are plenty of assholes around of all political stripes.
One drug warrior out there is blaming the shooters use of marijuana for the murders. Shit, they should have sent him off to an island with a lifetime supply of weed and twinkies and this wouldn't have happened.
People all over the political spectrum are trying to use this shooting for their own political benefit.
I'll use it for mine. It's NOT appropriate to urge violence against any politician. The people who do that on the left and the right are just as bad as the cop haters who wish harm to cops doing their jobs.
I agree with everything you say about the MSM and their selected meme of blaming the shooting on the right except for one detail; Hitler's version of fascism absolutely cannot be described as left-wing. Socialism and Communism are considered left-wing (extremely left-wing) while the fascism of Adolph Hitler was extremely right-wing.
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You need to do some reading and educate yourself. Hitler was hanging out with the communists before he came up with his own brand of socialism. It's all left wing regardless of all the bullshit labels put on the movements.
I don't know, SCC, some of his youtube ramblings seem to indicate he might also adhere to some Sovereign-type beliefs (the police are unconstitutional). But his philosophy is really not that important. The point everyone seems to be missing is that this guy's mental illness is the real reason he opened fire. The internet is a fine place for sick losers to lurk, unobserved, while they seethe in their own hatred and make their nefarious plans. The www is a refuge for cowards like Loughner who avoid normal social interaction and become fixated on someone or something to blame for their own problems. The rancorous political landscape is merely the trigger for nuts like this. Mental illness should be the discussion here, not politics. Unfortunately, the current political climate will not allow this.
I have to disagree. Nothing about "Mein Kampf" is liberal including it's author Adolf Hitler. And if he is a liberal, why attempt to murder one of the most liberal washington politicians in the state? IMO, the guy is just bat$#!& crazy. Because she conducted multiple town hall meetings she was an available target. I don't think being liberal or conservative had anything to do with it. But it's disturbing nonetheless.
F*ck Krugman, I could care less that he won a Noble Prize for economics. He always has barry's a** sweat on his face from kissing it so much.
Left wing, right wing call it what it is: totalitarianism. As for the shooter, he's just John Hinkley
4.0, another wacko.
Honestly, whether he was left wing, right wing, or chicken wing, the fact is he gunned down over 20 people... including our elected officials. We shouldn't be pointing fingers at left versus right, but realizing that this is an attack on the entire government structure. All the rhetoric and back-and-forth BS between the major parties is driving these nutjobs from either ideology to violence. This might be a sign it's time to put aside the rhetoric and unite, because otherwise we're going to destroy ourselves with infighting.
The last time America had such separatism was around 1860. We all know how THAT turned out.
How many LEFTISTS that you know want to join the army but were rejected? Doesn't sound so left to me, SCC.
Right, left, Marx, Hitler, stop it. Don't waste your time. The only political party in this country is Wal-Mart. This guy's just another crazy mass shooter. Heard on WBBM Radio a minute ago that this nut was thrown out of his community college and told to get a mental health examination.
An idiot like this does no one any good at all, and leaves an absolutely tremendous mess for everyone else.
His target survived, and is going to be a "poster child" for the gun control movement for the rest of her life. Gun owners will be made to pay.
He killed a nine-year-old girl and others for no reason at all, accidentally topping it off with a federal judge -- and that one in particular will almost certainly earn him the death penalty.
Another Internet-based wacko --the Web is the first place the authorities go now when something like this happens, and the crazies usually have pages and pages of their stuff up. Hell, there was one case where a pair of them killed their elderly mother, partially cremated her right in the backyard barbecue pit, made jewelry from some of the bones and other remains, and put pictures of the jewelry up on Facebook, with a full description.
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Obama is already talking about a "national Internet identifier for all Americans."
God damn it.
Now, to put this in perspective -- ever hear of Patrick Prendergast? He was a disturbed person who sold newspapers here in Chicago, and he used the media of his day -- postcards -- sending hundreds and hundreds of them filled with his rantings and ravings to all of the top politicians and businessmen in town.
He had the delusion that Mayor Carter Harrison was going to appoint him as Corporation Counsel, and he shot Harrison to death in 1893 when this did not come to pass. He was subsequently executed.
Horse-and-buggy or wi-fi, these people are always going to be with us. It sometimes seems like there are more of 'em around today, but I think even that's an illusion -- in 1893, during Chicago's World's Fair (Columbian Exposition) there was also a crazed murderer, Dr. Holmes, gassing women in sealed rooms and burning their remains in a furnace in the basement of his "World's Fair Hotel" at 63rd and Wallace...they have no idea how many he killed. He was eventually hanged in Pennsylvania for one particular murder.
I'm going to go away now. I need MY medication. (grin)
"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions." --Adolf Hitler
(Speech of May 1, 1927. Quoted by Toland, 1976, p. 306)
That could have been written by any left-wing speechwriter today.
WELL DONE SCC
"When the words have no meaning what's government?"
Why does the nation have a debt ceiling -- what purpose does it serve when every time you get close to it the ceiling is raised?
The word debt ceiling has no meaning.
The words "Illinois Resident" has no meaning.
The lists goes on and on...
The 2% FICA tax reduction stimulus from Washington is nothing more that a partial Illinois tax payment for the Illinois 2.25 tax increase designed to help bailout public pensions. The word stimulus in this context has no meaning.
OT: Congratulations Chicago !!
Woo-hoo, You just won another first place award I see.
You're number one with the highest gasoline prices in the nation!!
So how about that eh!!
Add it to the sanctuary city list of accomplishments and let's give a big shout out to all the corporations and businesses out there:
"CHICAGO DOES NOT WANT YOU HERE!"
I agree with everything you say about the MSM and their selected meme of blaming the shooting on the right except for one detail; Hitler's version of fascism absolutely cannot be described as left-wing. Socialism and Communism are considered left-wing (extremely left-wing) while the fascism of Adolph Hitler was extremely right-wing. His admiration of both "The Communist Manifesto" and "Mein Kampf" is somewhat puzzling, since they actually do represent opposite ends of the political spectrum. The "Chicago Boyz" blog had a good piece on the probably mentality of the shooter, and how his muddled political views were so predictable.
1/09/2011 01:42:00 AM
The above is corre3ct, however everyone must realize that left and right has different meaning in Europe vs. The United States. Our political ideology here is different from Europe as we are based on a Republic and Europe is based on Socialism. This is a common misconception. This is why the Left in the U.S always calls Republicans or Tea Party people Right wing Fascists. Hitler was a Fascist. Both Fascism and Communism are both forms of Social ism just on different ends of the spectrum.
"The people have had their jobs exported to China by the Bush/Clinton/Daley crowd.
"Now Obama and Boehner will destroy the remnant of the middle class with "austerity" programs....watch."
--1/09/2011 06:15:00 AM
Emanuel's "shared sacrifice" -- as J.P. Morgan-Chase/Goldman Sachs lights cigars with $100 bills, the underclass breeds like crazy on government subsidies, and the boxcars of marijuana roll smoothly into our "Sanctuary City" of luxury nightclubs and foreclosed homes -- with nothing in between anymore.
Yup. You just described the current one-party system.
"Tragedies like this will become more common and are symptomatic of the coming chaos."
Coming chaos? "Congresswoman shot, crowd sprayed with bullets at shopping center." It's here.
Anonymous said...
I agree with everything you say about the MSM and their selected meme of blaming the shooting on the right except for one detail; Hitler's version of fascism absolutely cannot be described as left-wing. Socialism and Communism are considered left-wing (extremely left-wing) while the fascism of Adolph Hitler was extremely right-wing. His admiration of both "The Communist Manifesto" and "Mein Kampf" is somewhat puzzling, since they actually do represent opposite ends of the political spectrum. The "Chicago Boyz" blog had a good piece on the probably mentality of the shooter, and how his muddled political views were so predictable.
1/09/2011 01:42:00 AM
Hey political science genius. nazi=national SOCIALISM. Hitler was for gun control, national health care(big on death panels), government take over or at least partnership with industry etc. Sound familiar. You are stupid.
If this idiot sheriff keeps talking he will probably be hired to be our next supt. What an unprofessional political hack.
To another unpublished moron:
All the Obama's have done since taking office is take vacations and golf. He's already played more golf in 2 years than Bush did in 8. Aren't we still at war?
Saved the country? By putting it another $4 trillion in debt? More than twice all the Bush years combined. What, he had to destroy the country in order to save it?
480,000 factories? You're high again. Or drinking the bong water.
American citizens are permitted in over 40 states to carry guns wherever they want, including rallies. It's called the Second Amendment. Try to find a copy.
And as far as we know, Andrew Breitbart's reward of $100,000 cash is still unclaimed for anyone who can provide him with irrefutable proof that any single member of Congress was spit on or called any sort of racial slur. It never happened asshat, it was a complete lie, just like all of your dozen or more comments.
Better luck next time.
in 1893, during Chicago's World's Fair (Columbian Exposition) there was also a crazed murderer, Dr. Holmes, gassing women in sealed rooms and burning their remains in a furnace in the basement of his "World's Fair Hotel" at 63rd and Wallace...they have no idea how many he killed. He was eventually hanged in Pennsylvania for one particular murder.
I'm going to go away now. I need MY medication. (grin)
1/09/2011 02:45:00 PM
I see you've read "The Devil in the White City."
That bitch Jane Fonda has to remember that there is no Statute of Limitations on Treason. There is film of her at a AAA emplacement in North Vietnam putting a US warplane in the gunsight during the war.
She talks liberal but is one of the richest women in the US, courtesy of her Ex-Husband and her videos. What a Capiltolist! What a hypocrite!!
Wait until Dick Turban uses the Tucson incident to exert more gun control over us.
National Socialist German Workers Party. Nazi. Big government controls everything from what you read or hear on TV to what you do for a living that will benefit the state.
Sound familiar? Democrats love to control every aspect of life. They will lead because they know better than the people. Freedom is frightening to them. Guns are no good. They need to control people.
Progressive, social justice, socialist...these are all of the words they use to disguise the communist subversives that they are.
Make no mistake. They are true enemies of freedom and the American way. And blind idiots will vote for them every time.
His ideals are completely incompatible with any sort of coherent left-wing thought.
Daily Kos does suck, though, no disagreement there.
1/09/2011 11:14:00 AM
can anyone spot the oxymoron?
1/09/2011 01:42:00 AM
Pleaser learn your facts correctly. The Progressives want you to believe that Fascism is not theirs. It is, the Germans called it National Socialism hence the name Nazi. The political spectrum is not linear but circular.
"The sheriff said the rampage ended only after two people tackled the gunman. A third person intervened and tried to pull a clip away from Loughner as he attempted to reload, the sheriff said."
There are some heroes out in Arizona.
Also the individual the cops were looking for was just the taxi driver who drove the shooter there.
Now looks to be the work of a lone mentally ill nutjob.
ABC News is reporting that a gun-savvy woman on the scene of the shooting recognized what the shooter was doing as he tried to change magazines, and grabbed the magazine away from him. Apparently he was tackled by others at this moment.
See. It works. God only knows how many more lives were saved.
As I've said here before and will continue to say, if you're going to be killed, do something.
(The following is an unapproved quote from a guy at a motor racing forum that I frequent - I think that it's the sanest commentary I've read so far about this event).
"I hope we will all take the time and reflect on this event and its relationship to violent rhetoric and absolute political positions. From what I have seen so far it is not clear whether this guy was right wing, left wing, or just very sick and confused. What is clear is that someone prone to violence received the right (wrong) stimuli and the result was badly broken lives.
Never mind the politics, just shun the instigators of violence. Yelling "Fire!" in a crowded theater is NOT protected speech."
Amen, and prayers to those who were directly affected by a mad man.
Loughner is registered as an independent.
http://azstarnet.com/news/local/crime/article_78272a23-fe75-5bee-ba38-f8171cda3fb7.html
Maybe not a leftist but rather a distant relation of Timothy McVeigh's ilk:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-potok/who-is-jared-lee-loughner_b_806500.html
and they reference Fox News:
On top of that, Fox News is reporting on an internal Department of Homeland Security message suggesting some tie between Loughner and American Renaissance, a kind of white-collar racist group.
Doesn't sound like a liberal but does sound anti-government.
Mental illness should be the discussion here, not politics. Unfortunately, the current political climate will not allow this.
1/09/2011 12:36:00 PM
Thank you for being a sane voice in this discussion.
http://www.businessinsider.com/alleged-az-shooter-may-have-links-to-pro-white-racist-organization-2011-1
He's just a nut. But what he reads is telling...
Why call this guy mentally ill? He knew what he was doing, in his own words he said he planned to do it. He and his kind (LEFTISTS) commit most of the political assassinations and start most of the wars that have ever happened. The most dangerous creature on earth is a liberal with a cause. To call him mentally ill gives him an out when it comes time to face justice. He is a left wing activist who truly believes in what he has done. Fry THIS BASTARD, don't give him an out.
Anonymous said...
Mental illness should be the discussion here, not politics. Unfortunately, the current political climate will not allow this.
1/09/2011 12:36:00 PM
Thank you for being a sane voice in this discussion.
1/09/2011 08:25:00 PM
Amen to that.
Love the blog although i believe the political climate in the Country is much too radical on both side this day and age.
People tend to subscribe to the maneuver that if they yell loud enough and long enough they point will hold validity.
I feel everyone has the right to an opinion, yet it should not be their agenda to change other's.
Yes, I do realize this sounds hypocritical being written on a blog>
I see you've read "The Devil in the White City."
1/09/2011 05:08:00 PM
Couldn't put it down. The author wove all of the different events going on in the city -- the "temper of the times" -- together pretty well.
Also, more specifically on Holmes, there's another one called "The Torture Doctor." I hope it's in the box with my other local history books; buried under other stuff right now.
Helps to know the past -- helps to keep a perspective on the present.
"...they should have sent him off to an island with a lifetime supply of weed and twinkies and this wouldn't have happened."
--1/09/2011 12:19:00 PM
...and the cow jumped over the moon.
There is no such "they" and there is no such island -- but don't let that get in the way here.
No such mechanism exists, except perhaps in the smoke-dreams of a few people in Oak Park -- about the only place east of Berkeley where you can still see peace signs.
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Why do you think they call it "dope?"
His ideals are completely incompatible with any sort of coherent left-wing thought.
Daily Kos does suck, though, no disagreement there.
1/09/2011 11:14:00 AM
can anyone spot the oxymoron?
1/09/2011 05:19:00 PM
"Left-wing thought" ?
His ideals are completely incompatible with any sort of coherent left-wing thought.
Daily Kos does suck, though, no disagreement there.
1/09/2011 11:14:00 AM
coherent left-wing thought
can anyone spot the oxymoron?
He's not a leftist,right wing nut,commie,or socialist. Call him what the hell he is, a terrorist!!!
You can thank the ACLU for suing to release all the nut cases from places like Mantino. We can't keep the mentally dangerous locked up anymore.They have the right to roam the streets of the USA and kill any of us.Of course we don't have the right to be protected from them.
Aren't all left wingers NUT JOBS?
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