What's This Crap?
- Former Gov. George Ryan was allowed to leave his prison cell and visit his ailing wife in her hospital for two hours Wednesday evening, prosecutors said today in a motion in which they opposed his release on bail.
The visit came on the same day Ryan's lawyers had filed a bail motion for Ryan. In making that motion, they said Lura Lynn Ryan had only weeks to live.
The disclosure of the visit came in a court filing by prosecutors responding to Ryan's motion. - "Thus, through normal prison procedures, Ryan has been able to visit with his wife," the government said. "The district court correctly determined that Ryan should not receive treatment that other defendants would not receive based on his wife's medical condition."
Since he got his visit, now he can serve the rest of his time without Thompson braying to the media and the courts about how unfair life is for Ryan.
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
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who really cares? honestly, why is it such a big deal if hes let out or not. Hes flat broke, wife dying and lost everything... even though im a staunch conservative and hate the political machine more than the next guy ryan did his time, if hes let out I really couldnt care...
Thompson's braying is not about Ryan or his wife, it is a message to the rest of 'The Combine' (that he established) that 'The Combine' will go to the wall for you so there is no reason to cooperate with the Feds.
That said, let him be with his wife in her last hours, then back to prison. Wouldn't you want the same mercy?
I would guess that this was not a conjugal visit.
Again... I am pleading... I don't feel well! Please send Bill Cozzi home to me...even on the sly! None of us feel well and we think Bill should get to come home on the sly and spend a couple of hours with each of us...it's only fair! That would keep him home for several thousand hours!
OK, so he saw his wife and now the show's over. Send him back into his cage and let's move on...
"Ryan's lawyers fired back early this afternoon with a filing to the appeals court in which they termed as "shabby behavior" the government's decision to disclose the former governor's hospital visit with his wife"
HAH! That's rich! Lawyers accusing other lawyers of "shabby behavior". What a joke!
A spokeswoman for the Bureau of Prisons said that there was no reason the government could not release the information.
Nuff said! Now the felonious ex-Gov can go to his grave knowing that he was given the opportunity to say good-bye to his wife, who's life has been a living hell due to HIS illegal behavior. He's received more courtesy than he deserved and certainly more that the dead Willis childen ever got!
I feel sorry for the Willis's. Not the Ryans.
That's what 15million spent by Winston & Strawn legal eagles gets you. BWAHHHHH!!
I feel for Ryan,but not as much as I feel for COZZI.
FREE COZZI!
Asshole jfled
Makes you wonder how often someone like Rostenkowski was able to dine at home for the holidays with his family while all of us were just kept in the dark?
Are we afraid he'll skip out if they let him out for a few days to visit with his wife? He's basically a white-collar criminal, he's not a violent offender. What will it hurt? Once his wife dies, send him back to finish his term.
I can only imagine what Ryan has on Thompson! Thompson is probably wishing Georgie was the one on death door!
"ISP Sgt said...
I would guess that this was not a conjugal visit.
1/08/2011 12:16:00 AM"
brutal.
i like it.
Are we afraid he'll skip out if they let him out for a few days to visit with his wife? He's basically a white-collar criminal, he's not a violent offender. What will it hurt? Once his wife dies, send him back to finish his term.
1/08/2011 06:45:00 AM
sorry, it's against the rules.
Fuck that Jagoff let him serve his time like everyone else!!! If it was me I would be able to see my ailing wife and what about all the kids that died in the minivan accident? I bet their parents would like to see them one more time also!!!
I think Ryan should serve his sentence. His orginal sentence was reduced from 10 years to 6.5 because of his age and health. I also think he should receive visitation to his dying wife, at least weekly. This is the just and human thing to due. He is not a flight risk, they havebeen together 50 years. It is compasionate. But, no early release and no bail. And the hell with Thompson, who is part of the problem in Illinois.
My guess is that this is not Ryan's first visit. It's probably happened so many times that the government is sick of it and revealing this latest visit so we all catch on to his antics out of his cage.
Sick of Ryan---Sick of Thompson
and thinking ahead to his own situation richie says ol' george should be allowed to visit his wife. this parallels the mayor's universe close enough to keep him awake at nite.
who really cares? honestly, why is it such a big deal if hes let out or not. Hes flat broke, wife dying and lost everything... even though im a staunch conservative and hate the political machine more than the next guy ryan did his time, if hes let out I really couldnt care
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The state is flat broke. Time to cut off the part time incarcerations and conjugal visits. How much does that crap cost I wonder.
That's a common practice in federal prisons. They'll allow non violent inmates out for extenuating situations concerning family. I don't see a problem with it.
Unless Ryan has Thompson for a murder, the statute of limitations is long gone.
Thompson actually wishes that George Ryan was the one on his death bed.
Then he would not have to continue spending in the 'tens-of-millions' of dollars to defend him pro-bono to assure that he keeps quiet about all of Big Jim Thompson's illegal antics and knowledge.
I am surprised at the number of people who say it is the compassionate thing to do. That every criminal gets the same consideration. Do they really believe that? Who cares if it is 'white collar' crime. Remember white collar crime is what got our Country in this current mess.
There has to be punishment, real punishment. Half sentences, conjugal visits, early release and parole only diminish the fear people should rightly have about being a criminal.
Things are not getting better. People, as a whole, are basically still animals and will do what they can get away with. If you believe otherwise, you are naive and you will be a victim all your life.
Ryan, Thompson, Rostie.....
Shitbirds of a feather.
In a way, maybe Mrs. Ryan was the biggest victim of her husband.
I always felt he was a sociopath.
An elitist to the highest degree.
I suspect he still feels he has done nothing wrong. All these politicians come up with the same excuse. You don't understand. That's the only way we can get things done here in Illinois. Well we are starting to understand, all too well. Let's home it's not too late.
WHAT HAS RYAN GOT ON TOMPSON? Maybe they should be roomates. He spent a lot of money and time defending his "good friend" George. Just asking
its bullshit , they both stole money from us ..let me ask you this , you support the law , u stand behind the law , you fuck up and go to jail do u think he would let you go see your dying mom ? sister / wife? no way at all !! its shit that they allowed this to happen . sorry do the crime do the time !!! no buts she could go vist him in jail where he belongs
how about cozy?????????? why don't we let him out to visit his family , o no because were police officers , we don't count !!!! thats right we don't !! don't let them think we do cause we don't !!!!! she only had two hours to live ???? seams like she mad it its been over 5 days now !!! think that was a scam .......assholes , ya you too j fed , i saw you in the egg place in 018 , your a real piece of work .....4 officers and you couldnt even come up and say hi to your officers ? glad you didn't i would have not said a word
God bless the Willis family
Are we afraid he'll skip out if they let him out for a few days to visit with his wife? He's basically a white-collar criminal, he's not a violent offender.
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I wonder if Rev. and Mrs. Willis feel that ryan's not a violent offender.
Lots of states will let an inmate out like this, under escort, for a "humanitarian furlough" to see a dying relative or to go to a funeral. That's what happened here.
Ryan and his lawyers are trying to mix this up with the separate fact that Ryan wants to be out on bond -- possibly for years -- as his appeal goes through the courts.
Apples & oranges.
That said, let him be with his wife in her last hours, then back to prison. Wouldn't you want the same mercy?
1/08/2011 12:06:00 AM
Absolutely, but as a former police officer in jail, do you really think they would sit idly by and let you out for even just a face to face goodbye with a loved one? The courts would say you do the crime, you do the time. The news media would have a field day with something like this if it were a jailed officer!
"why is it such a big deal if hes let out or not. Hes flat broke, wife dying and lost everything..."
--1/08/2011 12:03:00 AM
Poor baby. All due to his own voluntary, illegal actions for personal profit. Some people never have enough money, even if they're the Governor.
A whole family was wiped out -- eight kids burned to death, wasn't it? -- because Ryan sold a commercial driver's license to an unqualified illegal alien.
Sit, George. Sit and watch the paint peel. That's what the jury said.
Anonymous said...
Are we afraid he'll skip out if they let him out for a few days to visit with his wife? He's basically a white-collar criminal, he's not a violent offender. What will it hurt? Once his wife dies, send him back to finish his term.
1/08/2011 06:45:00 AM
Exactly, and while you're at it free Cozzi because he never should have been FEDERALLY prosecuted.
A friend of mine had a brother in BOP custody when his Dad died. The brother was allowed, at the family's expense, to come to the funeral home the night before the service.I agree, tell Thompson to sit down and shut up.
George, Where are the voices of all of the heinous murderers that you pardoned? You thought your thieving ass would be a hero. They have abandoned you because even they know you are a phony motherfucker! Now you can rot on your cot thinking about all of the cop killers that you cried over on that podium at Northwestern with that FAT COMMIE SLOB (Andrea Lyons) by your side. Again, A BIG FUCK YOU!
Best of all was his lawyer, Ex. Gov. Thompson whining that he wasn't informed prior to the visit.
Thompson is scared shitless that one day old George will talk and it will be Thompson in the next cell where he has long belonged.
Winston and Strawn supposedly spent 15 million for free defense on poor old George Ran.
Priceless! That was about the only way they could get him to keep his mouth shut, and keep their Chairman, Big Jim, take it with both hands, Thompson out of the pokie.
The Willis thing is getting old. Let's trace all that has gone wrong, every death, whether accidental or engineered, back to, over and through every person who did any action that contributed to it. Let's then house them all and act like we are not looking in the mirror.
Ryan visiting his dying wife isn't anything special that hasn't been granted to convicts of far worse crimes. We just don't hear about it.
Remember, the press manipulates what they want especially concerning a Republican.
Ryan did his years for the "crimes" he was convicted of, they are now suing about the "services" charge which was knocked out a while back; so he should be out by now.
Grow up you holier than thouers, he was convicted by a thousand knife cuts and nothing more.
Secretary of State graft has been going on for decades, most 16 year olds getting their first license can attest to that.
I really just don't care about this.
Jody "Kelso" Weiss would never have thrown Cozzi under the Bus if Cozzi was a black female officer who did the same thing. Time for independant review of this entire travesty of justice, orchestrated for political correctness purposes by Fraido Daley and Kelso Weiss.
What's THIS crap?
Sisters’ Prison Release Is Tied to Donation of Kidney
By TIMOTHY WILLIAMS
Published: December 30, 2010
Two Mississippi sisters serving double life sentences for their roles in an $11 armed robbery will be released, but only on the condition that the younger sibling donate her kidney to her sister, whose organs are failing, state officials said Thursday.
The campaign for the release of Jamie and Gladys Scott from a Mississippi prison included a march on Sept. 15 in Jackson.
Gov. Haley Barbour signed orders suspending the prison terms of Jamie and Gladys Scott after a long campaign of online petitions, blogs, Facebook pages and Internet radio programs rallied support for the sisters’ release.
A Web site called Free the Scott Sisters recently described problems that Jamie Scott, 38, was having in receiving dialysis in sanitary conditions while at the Central Mississippi Correctional Facility in Pearl, where she and her sister Gladys, 36, are being held. Jamie Scott, who has diabetes and high blood pressure, suffered kidney failure in January 2010. She receives dialysis at least three times a week..."
http://www.nytimes.com
/2010/12/31/us/31sisters.
html?partner=rss&emc=rss
So one armed robber gets a new kidney from another armed robber.
Fill in blank -- society benefits_____________________.
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No shortage of snack foods or hair care products -- or the money to buy them -- for these two. You shoulda seen these two porkers on TV. No question about losing a few pounds for health reasons...kidney or no kidney, it's continued morbid obesity, diabetes, and heart failure sooner or later.
"I would guess that this was not a conjugal visit."
--1/08/2011 12:16:00 AM
You know, I don't like Ryan either, but that's senseless and in appallingly bad taste.
really who cares??? I do. Maybe a lot of you have forgotten how that piece of shit Ryan let our brothers killers off of death row. They killed one of us, and because he let them off death row he thinks he should be praised. Fuck him. Maybe his family can begin to understand an ounce of what the families he affected feels like.
Then how do all the violent convicted criminals get out on parole? Last time I checked Ryan was not a violent criminal. Seems to me he is being given unfair treatment when compared to all the other violent animals you normally let out. Same goes for Cozzi.
And Tony Rezko can't even get sentenced, and is stuck in jail unsentenced.
even though im a staunch conservative and hate the political machine more than the next guy ryan did his time,
No if he did his time he would be released.Thats how this shit works.
A niece of my wife died and her POS gangbanging father who was in an IDOC prison for uuw was able to come to the funeral home and view the body when no body else was around. His family paid about 300 or 500 bucks to have him escorted.
You know, I don't like Ryan either, but that's senseless and in appallingly bad taste.
1/08/2011 02:46:00 PM
Sounds as if you have had that bad taste in your mouth before...huh?
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And Tony Rezko can't even get sentenced, and is stuck in jail unsentenced.
1/08/2011 04:56:00 PM
As soon as his cooperation is over and the feds are convinced they cannot use him any more, he will be sentenced. that is the only stick they have on him, keeping him in the MCC cooler pending sentencing.
Wouldn't it be great if he could give up shortshanks? Oh baby, that would be better than cherry pie at Christmas.
The Willis thing is getting old. Let's trace all that has gone wrong, every death, whether accidental or engineered, back to, over and through every person who did any action that contributed to it. Let's then house them all and act like we are not looking in the mirror.
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The Willis thing? You mean the lives of the Willis family children who died a horrible death while their parents and brother watched? That "Willis thing"? The children who died because the truck driver did not know enough to inspect his truck because he never studied for his test because he KNEW that all he had to do was hand the examiner a 50? A 50 that the examiner needed to pay for a fundraiser ticket that he was getting leaned on to buy so Ryan could be elected governor. That "Willis thing"?
Let me ask you a question. If someone sets a series of events into action which result in the death of another, is not that person responsible for a death that results from those events? As a prosecutorial tool, it worked at Nuremburg. As an experienced copper, I understand that any such nexis would be difficult to establish. But it is there nonetheless. If you don't think this is true, think what would happen to you if you had a party at your house, provided alcohol to minors and then one of those minors killed someone on the way home. You could reserve a cell in state prison.
I am sorry that Mrs. Ryan is dying. But time in prison is supposed to be hard. It is punishment. It's not just the time spent inside. It is also about keeping the inmate from enjoying or taking part in the life of his family. Taking part in the happy and the sad.
Rev. and Mrs. Willis will miss some events with their children. Forever.
"The Willis thing". You should think before you say something like that.
I DO NOT AGREE with what happened to Bill Cozzi, and I am well aware of the horrible death of the Willis children, However, Ryan's wife is dying, and the woman was his wife and mother to their children. Mrs. Ryan never ran for political office, nor did she make any public policy. I think for her sake, he should be allowed to spend some time with her if only to say good bye. If you really think, realize that there are no winners in this situation. Ryan should go back to prison and finish his sentence, but his wife should not pay for his sins.
I DO NOT AGREE with what happened to Bill Cozzi, and I am well aware of the horrible death of the Willis children, However, Ryan's wife is dying, and the woman was his wife and mother to their children. Mrs. Ryan never ran for political office, nor did she make any public policy. I think for her sake, he should be allowed to spend some time with her if only to say good bye. If you really think, realize that there are no winners in this situation. Ryan should go back to prison and finish his sentence, but his wife should not pay for his sins.
1/08/2011 11:28:00 PM
Really? So you think Mrs Ryan knew nothing about what her husband was up to? They were married for quite some time and he never confided in her while lying in bed or over some "pillow talk"? She's just as guilty as him for not saying anything but like a loyal good wife she kept her mouth shut kinda like "Blagos" wife. Bad things happen to bad people. No tears for her or Mr Ryan....
People want to wash Mrs. Ryan of all guilt in what happended in this state. Really? I wonder what she thought when they did not have to, for years, spend money from their checking accounts? Just like the mob wives who enjoy a better life. Did they think their husbands were going to the office for work? People testified that they handed Mrs. Ryan letters about the corruption. Let George spend a few hours in the hospital saying goodby and then back to prison. No special treatment. It seems the Illlinois combine is trying to send a message that they will help you if you keep your mouth shut. If Ryan really starts to talk it would be interesting. But, he will need some financial support when he gets out of jail and I am sure Thompson will not let him down.
1/08/2011 11:28:00 PM
Really? So you think Mrs Ryan knew nothing about what her husband was up to? They were married for quite some time and he never confided in her while lying in bed or over some "pillow talk"? She's just as guilty as him for not saying anything but like a loyal good wife she kept her mouth shut kinda like "Blagos" wife. Bad things happen to bad people. No tears for her or Mr Ryan....
1/09/2011 12:45:00 AM
REALLY? how many wives/husbands of CPD know everything their spouses do at work??????????
Few know about it who are not involved, but most prison systems have some means by which prisoners can get some kind of furlough for this kind of thing.
AFAIK, the state or the federal government does not pay for any extra costs involved. In some (most/all?) cases there is a requirement that the prisoner be escorted.
Not all prisoners are a serious flight risk. If she is truly dying, I see nothing wrong with him getting a little time to say good bye. In the federal prison system this is very common with prisoners who are a low flight risk. It's almost automatic.
The guy and his wife have been punished about all that they can be punished. Let it go. He will be back to finish his sentence after she passes, or his furlough ends.
BTW, I think that any furlough days do not count as part of one's sentence.
SCC did you hear about the new metro class at the academy? They started on Monday Jan 3. They had this one candidate from Loyola University, he is a white male about mid 20's. We hear he could not pass the power test from there. He started crying when the instructors started to yell at him and when they told him to drop and do push ups, he left the room crying. REFUSING to do the pushups. If this were a CPD Recruit, they would be terminated for insubordination.
1/09/2011 01:44:00 PM
what you don't know, about the subject matter at hand, exceeds, exponentially, what you think you do know.
REALLY? how many wives/husbands of CPD know everything their spouses do at work??????????
1/09/2011 11:07:00 AM
so, you're comparing politicians to cops now, are you?
Time for Thompson to shut the f$ck up and get over it and go spend some pro bono time on someone who really deserves it.
"I would guess that this was not a conjugal visit."
--1/08/2011 12:16:00 AM
You know, I don't like Ryan either, but that's senseless and in appallingly bad taste.
1/08/2011 02:46:00 PM
...lighten up Chester.
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