Ask These Questions
Something the media here will never do:
- Mr. Emanuel, how many pensions are you currently eligible for and how are they funded?
- Mayor Shortshanks, how many pensions are you currently eligible for and which ones are you collecting at the moment? How are they funded?
Then start asking some other of our elected officials to see where the money has gone.
Labels: money questions, pension
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
168 Comments:
John Kass wrote about Rahm making a load of money as an investment advisor during the Clinton years. Where's the rest of the media?
Hey! In public, please refer to me as Richard Daley, not the notorious gangster Mayor Shortshanks.
I know this will never happen but if cpd Cfd streets and San ctu etc banded together signed petitions that they and their families would vote in a block that could be a huge eye opener for the thieves.
1/13/2011 10:25:00 AM
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Convinced mom today to vote for Chico. Once she heard my pension was in jeopardy, she said, 'so, who should I vote for'?
A lot of seniors see Rahm as an arrogant young ass.
Here's one more question to ask Dick that I was told by a very good source:
Dick, is it true you will be paid as a consultant by the company that will be taking over management of Navy Pier and McCormack Place after you leave office?
Lay all your chips on this one SCC.
It's amazing that no one in the media ever asks these questions. We all know that these fat cat politicians like to tell everyone else how to live and what we can and can't have, but how dare anyone question their perks. Police and firemen have been giving their lives for ages only to collect an average pension, but what have these politicians done to deserve their HUGE pensions? And many get several. Ask the hard(should be easy) questions.
The media WON'T but I'll bet the farm the guys on a certain ticket running for this FOP election will have NO problem asking the appropriate questions and calling-out those that need to be called on the carpet.
Hint: It sure as Hell AIN'T the hacks that are running for office again. They can't/won't/refuse to answer pension-related issues when begging for votes in roll calls...what makes you think they have the balls to open their collective traps in this instance?
The current FOP regime has kept us in the dark for way too long and about way too many issues. The looming pension crisis and not having a plan to at least attack it (and hopefully defeat it) is the final straw in my mind. I want my pension. I put too much blood, sweat and tears into this place to be left to dry by the very same people who are supposed to have our best interests in mind.
So, yes..."Ask These Questions" starting with your own union (that hope to be re-elected as well)...AND BE PREPARED FOR THE DEAFENING SILENCE.
The Rahmfather will make Daley look like a pussycat. They couldn't care less about our pension.....they got theirs.
My question (although unrelated to the topic at hand)...
Is it true that there was an officer-involved shooting in 007 a few weeks back and it took FOP over 4 hours to answer a call to come out to represent the officer?
This is what I've heard from a few different sources. Can anyone confirm or deny?
If true, this is a SERIOUS problem seeing that they're trying everything in their power to make us give a statement right after we're involved in a shooting.
This is something that needs to be addressed IMMEDIATELY if there's even an ounce of truth to it.
Here's a question. What's going to happen to the 011th district sgt that threatened to shoot a po? Nothing? Hello? Anyone?
the property tax increase and state income tax hike have killed off our raise--- now with gas rumored to be approaching 4 dollars per gallon by summer that will make it even worse--- the net result will be that disposable income will take a nose dive---
fop reps at roll call today stated that they had a sit down meeting with RHAM Emmanuel who told them that his intention is to change (lower) the benefits for CURRENT police officers. He and certain lawyers feel that they can accomplish this and win any court challanges that arise...He intends to try though...
Much like a stagnant pond, the scum always rise to the top...and stay there.
SECRET GOP PLAN TO PUSH STATES TO DECLARE BANKRUPTCY
To kill off public employee unions?
I found this interesting. I know from the title it sounds like one of those tin foil hat conspiracy theory sites. Check it out though.
I hope all this talk about livelihoods turn into real research on the canidates.
Do alderman gets 80 % pensions after TEN years of part time employment? Do state legislators get 80 % pensions and lifetime healthcare benefits after only TEN years of part time employment?
First responders are the problem?
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$39.22 more in my paycheck this morning!!!!!!!
Thanks for the 2% RAISE FOP!!!!!!
. . . uhhhhh .. wait how much are the democrats going to take now?
Emanuel will cut your throats! I can't say it enough.
King Richard withdrew his initial 16% pay raise offer because he was told by Emanuel and Obama that Arbitrator Benn (who the F.O.P. believed to be fair) would reduce it to 10%.
I can't tell you who will not cut your throats because I don't know a vote whore who can be trusted or who thinks the C.P.D. is not a liability.
NUFF F#@*ING SAID!!!!!!
Anonymous said...
"...Richard M Daley leaves with three (3) public pensions! Not bad, I bet Rahm doesn't try to cut those pensions, what do you think?"
1/13/2011 08:02:00 PM
Daley is set to receive a State pension for his time as an Illinois State Senator, a Cook County pension for his time as Cook County State's Attorney, AND a City of Chicago pension for his time as Mayor. Right?
QUESTION:
Anyone know when the State and County pensions start?
Has he already been collecting those while serving as Mayor?
How do they calculate the monthly amount of each of those pension checks, by length of time served?
Just wondering and thought it might be of interest here.
DON'T forget to ask our long time Senator, Roland B.
But Federal Aviation Administration officials said they were baffled by Daley’s reference to runway permits.
“The word ‘permit’ is not used by the FAA in runway construction. We are not sure what this statement means,’’ FAA spokeswoman Elizabeth Isham Cory said.
HE DOESN'T EITHER.
Excellent questions. Let's keep asking them.
Rahm will collect a pension for being elected to the us congress
Thank you, SCC!
No one EVER brings this up in the papers. How many politicians get pensions for life for one term of service?
Why are THEIR pensions NEVER brought up?
Anonymous said...
"...Richard M Daley leaves with three (3) public pensions! Not bad, I bet Rahm doesn't try to cut those pensions, what do you think?"
1/13/2011 08:02:00 PM
Daley is set to receive a State pension for his time as an Illinois State Senator, a Cook County pension for his time as Cook County State's Attorney, AND a City of Chicago pension for his time as Mayor. Right?
QUESTION:
Anyone know when the State and County pensions start?
Has he already been collecting those while serving as Mayor?
How do they calculate the monthly amount of each of those pension checks, by length of time served?
Just wondering and thought it might be of interest here.
1/14/2011 06:25:00 AM
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Don't forget he's got over $1 million in his war chest.
I was told a long time ago that you can only have ONE city pension. Example: You retired as a sworn member and came back as a civilian. You can continue to put money into investment vehicles, but you won't qualify for another CITY pension. You quit your civilian job, that is it.
Mayor asshat though qualifies for a minimum pension from the state and county to the best of my knowledge, just how much I don't know.
Touch our pension and you will have a dept. Full of dogs and medical abusers! The gloves will be off !
My question (although unrelated to the topic at hand)...
Is it true that there was an officer-involved shooting in 007 a few weeks back and it took FOP over 4 hours to answer a call to come out to represent the officer?
This is what I've heard from a few different sources. Can anyone confirm or deny?
If true, this is a SERIOUS problem seeing that they're trying everything in their power to make us give a statement right after we're involved in a shooting.
This is something that needs to be addressed IMMEDIATELY if there's even an ounce of truth to it.
1/14/2011 01:07:00 AM
Hello, Mike Shields. No CPD officer has been fired for an on duty shooting since Nolan was President. You and Deb Kirby's kids keep trying on trying to make an issue of something that just isn't there. Why don't you actually do something over at the pension board instead? .
Its closer to 19 million
here is another fine example of our fine mayor making an ass of himself, just making up words to get his way like a fucking baby....
"If the city did not borrow more money to continue the expansion program and related capital improvements totaling $15 billion, its runway permits could expire, Daley said.
“If you don’t keep those permits, they’re denied,” Daley said. “Then you start all over with the federal and state process. It takes you another 20 years.”
But Federal Aviation Administration officials said they were baffled by Daley’s reference to runway permits.
“The word ‘permit’ is not used by the FAA in runway construction. We are not sure what this statement means,’’ FAA spokeswoman Elizabeth Isham Cory said.
O’Hare spokeswoman Eve Rodriguez later said the mayor was talking about the FAA approval granted for O’Hare expansion in 2005. But FAA officials said there is nothing in the approval documents describing any deadline to complete construction."
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/news/local/chibrknews-daley-airlines-to-blame-if-oha-01132011,0,2860443.story
Here's a question. What's going to happen to the 011th district sgt that threatened to shoot a po? Nothing? Hello? Anyone?
................................... Well Mr 011 District "Ranger" that sounds like Agg Assault, which is a crime. Now have the balls and arrest the Sgt.
"$39.22 more in my paycheck this morning!!!!!!!
Thanks for the 2% RAISE FOP!!!!!!"
Hey, mine was a whole $23. Of course I'll lose that and then some with the 2% Illinois tax hike, which won't be offset by the decrease in Social Security payment because we don't pay into Social Security.
what mayoral canidate will reduce number of alderman from 50 to 25
will save $10,000,000 and allow feds and inspector general more time to weed out corruption
do not vote for an insider
Hey Cuz. Citywide Team was at my roll call last night and they answered any and all questions asked. They were well informed and passed that information along to us. I don't play union politics, but I will be supporting the Citywide Team.
Why did the FOP hire arbitrator Benn to oversee the upcoming FOP election? Hasn't this guy made enough money off of us by screwing us on the last two contracts? Does the City Wide team, for some reason like this guy? Just asking.
Greg? Bill? Anybody?
ot 2% tax increase took away our 2% pay raise and we have to pay federal tax on our 2 % raise
we got screwed
take away that gold braid pension
in 20 years we'll be lucky to receive 60% pension with 30 years
of service
Any Unionized City worker would be a fool to vote for that sawed off punk, Emanuel.
You need 10 years for a minimal county Pension. I don't think the lil rat was there that long.
I know this will never happen but if cpd Cfd streets and San ctu etc banded together signed petitions that they and their families would vote in a block that could be a huge eye opener for the thieves.
1/13/2011 10:25:00 AM
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Convinced mom today to vote for Chico. Once she heard my pension was in jeopardy, she said, 'so, who should I vote for'?
A lot of seniors see Rahm as an arrogant young ass.
1/14/2011 12:22:00 AM
If this happened just one time, it could change chicagos political future for a long time.
Anyone else notice - Moreno loses his County Board seat and is now an alderman. And another Cullerton (related to our Illinois Senate President who brokered the recent tax hike) is appointed Alderman too. Watching this stuff is getting sickening.
Lets get together with the other unions and raise the necessary funds to start our own media campaign educating the citizens as to type of pensions these politicians are getting. I am sure when the average citizen learns what is going on they will be just as outraged as we are. Lets turn this around and dump it right back into the politicians laps. I'll donate $500.00 right now. It's about time we go on the offensive!
John Kass wrote about Rahm making a load of money as an investment advisor during the Clinton years. Where's the rest of the media?
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right like 18M in 1.5 years because Rahm was in such demand .... no political games huh?
I am thinking Del Valle at this point
fuck Rahm
fuck Rahm
fuck Rahm
Anonymous said...
Here's a question. What's going to happen to the 011th district sgt that threatened to shoot a po? Nothing? Hello? Anyone?
1/14/2011 01:16:00 AM
Have you obtained a CR on that Sgt? Have you written a to-from as a witness and offered to give a statement on the PO's behalf?
I wasn't there and did not witness this, you must do it if you have witnessed the incident.
You get the ball rolling and back up that PO with your eyewitness account.
Anonymous said...
Thank you, SCC!
No one EVER brings this up in the papers. How many politicians get pensions for life for one term of service?
Why are THEIR pensions NEVER brought up?
1/14/2011 07:54:00 AM
Because they need votes. We don't. They run for office on our backs. All we did is apply for the jobs and foolishly think the City will keep promises made years ago.
Anonymous said...
I know this will never happen but if cpd Cfd streets and San ctu etc banded together signed petitions that they and their families would vote in a block that could be a huge eye opener for the thieves.
1/13/2011 10:25:00 AM
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Convinced mom today to vote for Chico. Once she heard my pension was in jeopardy, she said, 'so, who should I vote for'?
A lot of seniors see Rahm as an arrogant young ass.
1/14/2011 12:22:00 AM
Have mom tell all her friends too.
Tell her Rahm is totally against seniors driving or voting or being in charge of their own bank account. That ought to get mom and her friends going.
Anonymous said...
But Federal Aviation Administration officials said they were baffled by Daley’s reference to runway permits.
“The word ‘permit’ is not used by the FAA in runway construction. We are not sure what this statement means,’’ FAA spokeswoman Elizabeth Isham Cory said.
HE DOESN'T EITHER.
1/14/2011 07:22:00 AM
that's silly, just silly, really really silly, silly, very silly.
go to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgpzlZf221I and see how a Chicago Police Officer who is running for 24th ward alderman feels about his fellow Officers. A must see if you work in 025.
Anonymous said...
I did not know this. My friend saw someone get cash from their LINK card. Yes, it is true. Not sure who qualifies. But yes you cannot use LINK to buy booze, cigs, but after you get the cash you can!!!
I am so afraid that the next time I see some able bodied person use a LINK card I will get arrested.
http://www.dhs.state.il.us/page.aspx?item=39186
Even better. Recently as I sat in line at Walgreens to check out with my purchases I noticed the fine citizen in front of me paying for her items with a LINK card. I was actually please to see for a minute that she was buying soap and shampoo. What a sucker I am. As I walk outside to get in the car I notice the same lady get into her Lexus RX. A car that starts at $38,000!!!.
The whole program is a complete SCAM and everyone knows it. Hell, half the TMA's who are part time employees know that they work only X amount of hours a year which will get them just below the threshold to qualify for LINK. They then suck the tit of LINK.
They are able bodied people and cna work full time jobs or multiple part time jobs and not qualify for LINK but FUCK NO, they SCAM the system but collecting LINK and working part time.
Wish I could be a part time PO and collect LINK too
Postponed My Retirement Cuz Of This S**t said
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Dude, what planet have you been living on?
The FOP has kept the membership in the dark about the pension? The FOP was instrumental in getting HB3538 passed. I know for a fact that Donahue spent over two weeks down in Springfield. This legislation finally guarantees that our pension will be properly funded.
Just where the hell was our pension board?
To the poster who asked about FOP and the 007th District shooting about two weeks ago. It took FOP almost SEVEN hours to get someone to respond to Area 1. Shooting happened on 1st watch, approx 0100 hours, and FOP did not answer the phone or return numerous messages left on their system. Nice huh.
Forensic Audit of City of Chicago, CPD, CFD, Streets and San, etc; before the Election and Daleys leaving. Why not ?
SCC I couldn't agree more with this posting, the more people that are aware of it the better, but didn't Bella's February FOP Newsletter article ask the same question? Everybody always wants to slam the FOP. How about giving some credit when it is due?
From what I was old Shorty is only in one pension,
The State Legislators Pension, from when he was a State Senator..
But... it’s HUGH
That pension follows them wherever they go so it gained when he was Cook County States Attorney and Mayor... nice when you can write your own rules.
It might be over $135K right now...
Since he was not in any CITY pension funds he could short them and let them go to hell. Let the state put through the HUGH INCOME TAX increase to fund his and state pensions.
When forced to fund city pensions for what we EARNED, he says we are the greedy ones.
Plus, Shorty and family will get top notch solid gold medical care, all paid for by the taxpayers.
And his war chest, and consulting fees and you really don't think the new Wacker Drive work was anything more that more flower boxes.
A lot of seniors see Rahm as an arrogant young ass.
1/14/2011 12:22:00 AM
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Looks like Shields and Rahm are cut from the same cloth.
hemorrhoid said...
Emanuel will cut your throats! I can't say it enough.
King Richard withdrew his initial 16% pay raise offer because he was told by Emanuel and Obama that Arbitrator Benn (who the F.O.P. believed to be fair) would reduce it to 10%.
I can't tell you who will not cut your throats because I don't know a vote whore who can be trusted or who thinks the C.P.D. is not a liability.
1/14/2011 05:39:00 AM
The corrupt politicians in chicago know that the police will still be the police and do their jobs no matter how much they fuck with us. They know we will still lay down our lives to help a majoriety of the public(unfortunately)that hates us. The politicians are banking on that and deep down they could care less about the police. The scum that run chicago, cook county and Illinois only care about their power, their wealth, and the wealth of their friends and family. Hell, just look at the crap going on with Daley's son and nephew. BIG TIME SCANDAL!
$39.22 more in my paycheck this morning!!!!!!!
Thanks for the 2% RAISE FOP!!!!!!
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quit bitchin.....you got $12 more than me..
I bet they have never have audited these Churches with the store front Reverands. The millions these groups receive from the governmemt.
OT: Great work detectives! But why wasn't this scum in prison aleady? Read on.
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www.chicagobreakingnews.com/news/local/chibrknews-suspect-charged-in-lakeview-se-01142011,0,6583409.story
Suspect charged in Lakeview sex assault
By Jeremy Gorner, Annie Sweeney and Jason Meisner
Tribune reporters
12:10 PM CST, January 14, 2011
A 20-year-old man has been charged with sexually assaulting a woman as she walked home from a train station last month in the Lakeview area, Chicago police said this morning.
Tyrone Maxwell, of the 4300 block of West Gladys Avenue, is charged with aggravated criminal sexual assault, aggravated kidnapping and aggravated robbery in connection with the Dec. 21 attack.
The woman was attacked a little before 7 p.m. that day as she walked on the 1300 block of West Barry Avenue.
Police have said she was approached by a man who implied he was armed, demanded money and pushed her into a nearby alley.
There, he battered and sexually assaulted her, police said.
Court records show Maxwell pleaded guilty in November 2010 to one count each of possession of a controlled substance and residential burglary. Criminal Court Judge Sharon Sullivan sentenced him to 6 months of time served while awaiting trial and 2 years of probation, and ordered him to submit to monthly drug tests.
Prosecutors filed a violation of probation petition on Jan. 6, and Sullivan ordered him held no-bail, according to court records.
His next court date in that case was set for Feb. 16 in the Skokie criminal courthouse.
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Tyrone should have been inside, not running amok among human beings. Tyrone needs to be put down because he is a dangerous wild animal.
Anonymous said...
A lot of seniors see Rahm as an arrogant young ass.
1/14/2011 12:22:00 AM
He is 51. Arrogant ass will do.
Wow got my $31.09 raise today, THANKS TO THE ASSHATSAT AT THE CURRENT UNION ADMINISTRATION.
Wasgoing tospend it but nowI got stuckwith the Quinn's bailout project..... THANKS
With all of the dough Shorty should have socked away, he shouldn't even need a falking pension.
Anonymous said...
Rahm will collect a pension for being elected to the us congress
1/14/2011 07:54:00 AM
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Rahm was also a federal employee.
Hence, a federal pension.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Here's a question. What's going to happen to the 011th district sgt that threatened to shoot a po? Nothing? Hello? Anyone?
................................... Well Mr 011 District "Ranger" that sounds like Agg Assault, which is a crime. Now have the balls and arrest the Sgt.
1/14/2011 08:38:00 AM
Name the Sgt. who threatened to shoot another coworker. Work place violence is a serious issue that should be addressed. Whoever the victim is, speak up and do something about it.
rahmbo will sit down with pension board and unions and reduce pensions for current employees with less than 20 years
look out boys and girls
do not put your future in rahmbos hands devalle want current employees to keep pension benefits
Just heard this, the 67% income tax hike, to 5%, is retroactive to Jan 1, 2011.
And unlike our retroactive pay, this won't wait for 3.5 years and will be paid when you file your 2011 income taxes.
Nice, eh?
Squeal like a pig as it goes in now.
To all those who think Gery Chico is the second coming of Daley, please read this from Daley's #1 cheerleader:
From the Sun Times today:
Sneed is now told Daley, who is privately a huge Emanuel backer, has put the skids on the Weis plan ... and, at last peek, Weis was weighing doing it anyway!
OT:
Anybody know what happened at the gas station at Higgins/Cumberland? Crime scene tape up all over this a.m.
SCC, can you please post the 025 mutt youtube video for all to see. Makes Penny seem edu-ma-cated.
i agree, take my pension i won't do shit!
Rahm lost me first, because he is no longer for the middle class city worker. Originally,I was going to vote for him because- like Rosty- he would be able to bring home the bacon for the city, but with Bill Daley there now, we don’t the arrogant prick because the clout is already there.
Second as the following article from the Huffington post, Rahm wants to take from the city worker but reward illegal aliens.
So fuck him, I’m voting for Gerry Chico.
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The Chicago for Rahm campaign issued a press release Thursday evening touting Emanuel's plan for immigration reform...in Chicago.
"Just because Congress has yet to pass the Dream Act doesn't mean we will wait for progress in Chicago," Emanuel said in a statement. "All children in Chicago deserve to have access to a quality education, and we will make sure they have that opportunity."
Emanuel's plan would not provide a path to citizenship as a national DREAM Act would, but would "allow these children to access the same financial aid opportunities as every other child," according to his campaign.
"The number one prohibitive reason people don't go to college is cost," Emanuel said in an interview with Telemundo Chicago. "So I want to take a part of the DREAM Act, which Sen. (Richard) Durbin introduced, and make Chicago the first city in the country to adopt a Chicago DREAM Act."
Those eligible would be able to receive student loans to both community colleges and four-year universities at a low interest rate, Emanuel told Telemundo. His plan is to raise $5 million from "business and civic leaders" to pay for the loans.
Not long after his announcement, other Chicago mayoral candidates slammed the plan and accused Emanuel of pandering,
During a joint appearance before the Chicago Tribune editorial board that was more like the first mayoral debate, Carol Moseley Braun, Gery Chico and Miguel del Valle were like a tag-team attacking Rahm Emanuel.
They hit the former White House chief of staff on everything from his abrasive personality and his proposal to reduce city pension benefits for existing employees to his support for denying teachers the right to strike to his role as a roadblock to immigration reform.
REDUCING CITY PENSIONS FOR CURRENT EMPLOYEES RAHM
Judge Sullivan is not better than Judge Epstein, less anti-police sentiment, but the result is the same, let em all go.
You know for many of the taxpayers, in regards to this state tax increase, they will be oblivious to the effect on their paychecks as the Bush tax cut extension bill included a temporary FICA tax cut of 2% for 2011.
It's in 2012 when the taxpayers really get blind sided given the status quo and the FICA tax break expires. Only then will they really feel the loss.
Of course this does not apply for people not paying into FICA or the corporate tax increase -- just a thought nonetheless.
As a side note with regards to all those great jobs that we keep hearing about that were created in 2010 - yeah those-- Well turns out that over 60% of them are part-time temporary jobs replacing full time work. Good luck funding the debt as that continues eh?
Everyone looks at the number of jobs created each month using the data as a sign of an economic turnaround but who's asking what kind of jobs are they and are they living wage!
Don't stand in the way of free trade now, they're warning you!
$39.22 more in my paycheck this morning!!!!!!!
Thanks for the 2% RAISE FOP!!!!!!
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At least it's a REAL Raise. Not eaten up by health care or furlough days. No layoffs either.
I'm not happy about it, but unemployment is near 10% fellas. FOP is doing right by us.
The corrupt politicians in chicago know that the police will still be the police and do their jobs no matter how much they fuck with us.
Not this Cop.. Fuck this city, job and all the political asswipes.
Even better. Recently as I sat in line at Walgreens to check out with my purchases I noticed the fine citizen in front of me paying for her items with a LINK card. I was actually please to see for a minute that she was buying soap and shampoo. What a sucker I am. As I walk outside to get in the car I notice the same lady get into her Lexus RX. A car that starts at $38,000!!!.
Start posting the license plates of these mutts!
Anonymous said...
Anyone else notice - Moreno loses his County Board seat and is now an alderman. And another Cullerton (related to our Illinois Senate President who brokered the recent tax hike) is appointed Alderman too. Watching this stuff is getting sickening.
1/14/2011 09:48:00 A
Dude, you are wrong. That was a error by the Suntimes. It is a another Moreno that took over Flores spot in the 1st ward. Commissioner Moreno is trying to get on the board of Review which is appointed by Chief Evans. Allen is married into the Cullerton Family. Know your shit before you open up your trap
Off topic: Nice sendoff services for Fred Rice today.
I was kind of shocked at how few officers (especially young officers) bothered to show for the services.
That's too bad. You hair gels might have learned something today.
'Even better. Recently as I sat in line at Walgreens to check out with my purchases I noticed the fine citizen in front of me paying for her items with a LINK card. I was actually please to see for a minute that she was buying soap and shampoo. What a sucker I am. As I walk outside to get in the car I notice the same lady get into her Lexus RX. A car that starts at $38,000!!!.'
Don't be surprised if "lexus lady' was shopping for an elderly relative or neighbor. People DO THAT for folks that can't get out to do it for themselves, especially when there is ice & snow on the ground
(elderly have a fear of broken hips/backs, doncha know). Don't assume everyone shopping with a link card is a leeching thief.
This is the guy that the F.O.P is going to endorse in this election, I can't believe the majority of Officer's would endorse Rahm, every Rep I talked too said the F.O.P is going to endorse Rahm. My question is why send out ballots if the F.L.O.P already knows who there man is, Rahm is a cut throat politician who is going to stand at nothing to line his pockets, just ask those who have opposed him, if you thought Shortshanks was bad wait till "NAPOLEAN" takes office.
Retired City of Aurora.
Mayor city of Aurora.
appointed to the department of transportation by Quinn.
Estimated Pension $50,000 per month or $500,000.00 per year.
It was suggested that these P.O.s. take only the largest of Pension. We want State of Illinois Pension law change to make sure of the above.
Aurora retired Police Officer and with two years to go lives in Florida.
Here's a question. What's going to happen to the 011th district sgt that threatened to shoot a po? Nothing? Hello? Anyone?
................................... Well Mr 011 District "Ranger" that sounds like Agg Assault, which is a crime. Now have the balls and arrest the Sgt.
No way, I'm to scared. That is why I put it on this blog. I was wondering if someone else would be willing to help me out. The Sgt is out of control and someone needs to do something about it. Maybe the Cmdr will see this and do the right thing. The watch is tired of this sgt.
New bosses in 23 and 17
I know this will never happen but if cpd Cfd streets and San ctu etc banded together signed petitions that they and their families would vote in a block that could be a huge eye opener for the thieves.
1/13/2011 10:25:00 AM
If more than 30% of the individuals in those departments actually bothered to register to vote and actually put their money where their mouths were, we wouldn't have suffered under daily for 21 years.
Wow got my $31.09 raise today, THANKS TO THE ASSHATSAT AT THE CURRENT UNION ADMINISTRATION.
Wasgoing tospend it but nowI got stuckwith the Quinn's bailout project..... THANKS
You would probably rather give up the furlough days. No doubt never been to a meeting.
I just watched the youtube video of the 025th district officer and it made me SICK! What an embarrassment he is to the CPD and to the honest people living in, as he says, "K town baby." Typical stupid man continuing to use race to get himself noticed. Instead of talking about positive things he wants to do he uses race and follows the other racists that went before him. Guys like him are doing their best to keep up racial barriers because it promotes their wealth. I feel sorry for any 025th copper that has to work with him.
A lot of seniors see Rahm as an arrogant young ass.
1/14/2011 12:22:00 AM
He is 51. Arrogant ass will do.
1/14/2011 12:34:00 PM
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I said they SEE him as an arrogant young ass. When you're eighty-five, I suppose 'young' is relative, anyway.
If someone is young enough to be your kid, you probably do look a little sideways at their credibility and attitude.
Lotsa changes coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just to comment on the funeral services for Fred Rice.....thank God they closed his casket so he didnt have to look at all the exempt boobs that run this department..........and perhaps they should get a real military guy to call the officers to attention......instead of the wannabe never been the police lieutenant that does..........
No ask these questions to the person sitting next to you at roll call. Are you registered to vote? Do you plan on voting next month? When was the last time you were at a Fop or pension board meeting? Point is get involved. Now more than ever.
...no wonder he wants to cut our pension
5 years for any pension.thats federal law.sorry you were mis informed.
no changes as of yet, rumor is Boehmer doesn't want to leave 23 because she is retiring soon, so that may have thrown a monkey wrench into the plans.
Tobias was seen at the segway store getting fitted for his new chariot...
Here's a question. What's going to happen to the 011th district sgt that threatened to shoot a po? Nothing? Hello? Anyone?
1/14/2011 01:16:00 AM
Here's a question, why don't you man up and be a complainant?
Voice your displeasure with "Officer" roger washington and his bullshit video directly by emailing him at rlwfor24ward@yahoo.com......and maybe before he becomes the next alderthief, he should AKS someone to teach him proper grammar.
Why doesn't the FOP invite all the heads of the unions representing city employees to the next FOP meeting. The pros and cons of all the mayoral candidates can be discussed until there is a consensus candidate.
Im supporting Gery Chico. He had the best answers to the questions on FOP website and quite frankly is the only one that has a legit shot to be rahm. Look into it. We need Chico. Im not sure i agree with everything he supports but we have no other alternative. Anyone voting for Del Valle is wasting their time. He seems like an ok guy but has no shot, may even be a plant by Daley to split hispanic votes and get Rahm in
Retired City of Aurora.
Mayor city of Aurora.
appointed to the department of transportation by Quinn.
Estimated Pension $50,000 per month or $500,000.00 per year.
It was suggested that these P.O.s. take only the largest of Pension. We want State of Illinois Pension law change to make sure of the above.
Aurora retired Police Officer and with two years to go lives in Florida.
1/14/2011 04:44:00 PM
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Seriously, could someone please translate this post into English?
Anonymous said...
Lotsa changes coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1/14/2011 05:55:00 PM
What about hope?
I'm telling you 50% will be max and find your own health care just like Indiana.
Anonymous said...
"...The Chicago for Rahm campaign issued a press release Thursday evening touting Emanuel's plan for immigration reform...in Chicago.'
1/14/2011 02:11:00 PM
Hey, DUMMY!
You will not find two BIGGER ADVOCATES of the "Dream Act" than Del Valle and Chico.
Get a clue!
Anonymous said...
I know this will never happen but if cpd Cfd streets and San ctu etc banded together signed petitions that they and their families would vote in a block that could be a huge eye opener for the thieves.
1/13/2011 10:25:00 AM
You're absolutely correct. It would be a show of force. Unfortunately coppers are too busy worrying about airing their grievances on who has a desk job and who works in a unit. We will never be united and we will get screwed because of it. We can't focus on making a difference, only complaining about each other.
So, yes..."Ask These Questions" starting with your own union (that hope to be re-elected as well)...AND BE PREPARED FOR THE DEAFENING SILENCE.
1/14/2011 12:31:00 AM
Tell me about it! Where the fart is FOP when the politicians are talking about our exorbitant pensions? They aren't out there telling people that this isn't true and what we have paid for to have our pensions. They haven't exposed the reasons for the breakdown in our pensions and assured the public of who the bad guys are. What good are they? None!! No matter who is running, we do NOT need the same people we have. We need someone new!
Wish I could be a part time PO and collect LINK too
1/14/2011 11:10:00 AM
You might get your wish very very soon at the rate things are going.
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Anyone else notice - Moreno loses his County Board seat and is now an alderman. And another Cullerton (related to our Illinois Senate President who brokered the recent tax hike) is appointed Alderman too. Watching this stuff is getting sickening.
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The early duck, the shredded slips, all this stuff is how they buy your complicity in there lies and evil.
Don't shoot the messenger, but the chickens of all the minor corrupt practices come home to roost with the corrption of the top.
Tunisians drive leader from power in mass uprising (AP)
AP - After 23 years of iron-fisted rule, the president of Tunisia was driven from power Friday by violent protests over soaring unemployment and corruption. Virtually unprecedented in modern Arab history, the populist uprising sent an ominous message to authoritarian governments that dominate the region.
Why couldn't this story be about shortshanks?
I'm not happy about it, but unemployment is near 10% fellas. FOP is doing right by us.
1/14/2011 03:07:00 PM
I'm tired of seeing the FOP folks on here advertising about how great they are and why we should keep them. Where they heck was the FOP when all this shit was going down? Ya you can hear the birds chirping. Now every other post is about how great they are. Come on. FOP go campaign somewhere else. You had your chance and you still aren't getting out in front of the issues. Down with you and down with four freaking vice presidents making over $150,000 salary of my freakin money a year.
Don't assume everyone shopping with a link card is a leeching thief.
1/14/2011 04:32:00 PM
yeah, right.
you betcha.
keep putting lipstick on that pig.
This is the guy that the F.O.P is going to endorse in this election, I can't believe the majority of Officer's would endorse Rahm, every Rep I talked too said the F.O.P is going to endorse Rahm. My question is why send out ballots if the F.L.O.P already knows who there man is, Rahm is a cut throat politician who is going to stand at nothing to line his pockets, just ask those who have opposed him, if you thought Shortshanks was bad wait till "NAPOLEAN" takes office.
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Your full of it, no one told you that.
At least it's a REAL Raise. Not eaten up by health care or furlough days. No layoffs either.
66%TAXINCREASE66%TAXINCREASE
LOL..ummm, you ever watch the news?
To everyone who is calling for stricter gun laws in light of the tragedy in Tucson, may I offer this little tidbit: If guns kill people, then pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk, crack pipes smoke themselves and spoons made Oprah fat! Remember: Hold the person accountable for their actions, not the means they chose!
ASK JOHN DALEY WHO HE IS SUPPORTING?????????? Chico and da man
Vote Carol she is from a police family. We need to back up our own.sgt joe is a great guy
the property tax increase and state income tax hike have killed off our raise--- now with gas rumored to be approaching 4 dollars per gallon by summer that will make it even worse--- the net result will be that disposable income will take a nose dive---
daley and company gave us that shit
Is Chico a multi millionary I hear he is a bif city lawyer
alert
Are the feds going to restrict and make you turn in your weapons magazines over 15 cap. There is a bill in congress right now to do this. Only active lawenforcement can have high cap mags
Don't assume everyone shopping with a link card is a leeching thief.
1/14/2011 04:32:00 PM
I don't have to assume. They are. LINK is free shit they didn't earn.
"Greedy Copper" said...
Anonymous said...
But God forbid that greedy copper gets a free cup of coffee at Dunkin Ds!
1/14/2011 12:11:00 AM
Wait a minute!!!! Which Dunkin D's gives a copper free coffee still!?!? You have to remember why they do offer discounts or "freebies". To keep the criminals you stand up for from robbing them late at night. You see, with better eye sight, these free loaders (handout recipients) may drive by a Dunkin D's, realize the little female worker inside is a easy target for a robbery, and enter the empty store for extra cash. Believe it or not, alot of "working" people out there love Police presence. It brings security and usually a good conversation during those lonely nights at work. So take your hard earned $$$ savings and hand it out to the "takers" in this society if it makes you feel good..... Don't trash talk "coppers" until you know what your talking about. BTW, I try to pay for everything I get. This "safe" City which reportedly has dropping crime stats, have thousands of store owners begging for more Police presence. They WANT us around. You see, the Government is confusing it's voters....... They are lead to believe that everything is theirs to take... By theft,robbery, etc...
You obviously are an ASSHAT!!!
Love you SCC, love your blog!!
1/14/2011 11:35:00 AM
$39.22 more in my paycheck this morning!!!!!!!
Thanks for the 2% RAISE FOP!!!!!!
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At least it's a REAL Raise. Not eaten up by health care or furlough days. No layoffs either.
I'm not happy about it, but unemployment is near 10% fellas. FOP is doing right by us.
1/14/2011 03:07:00 PM
Don't enjoy that REAL raise to long sport because you're going to be handing that over to that piece of shit Gov. Quinn. Keep voting for these fucking idiots. If only a fucking republican would run who could play nice with the unions.
Anonymous said...
Anyone else notice - Moreno loses his County Board seat and is now an alderman. And another Cullerton (related to our Illinois Senate President who brokered the recent tax hike) is appointed Alderman too. Watching this stuff is getting sickening.
1/14/2011 09:48:00 AM
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My boss was anointed by the 38th Ward. My so called partners are related to the Allen/Cullerton cabal of insider pets and playmates. What an epic cluster fuck to be surrounded by goofs from the 38th Ward.
I hope that the people living on the NW side are teed off enough to vote out all the machine insiders this time around.
I'm not with the FOP, but it is getting tiring hearing of the cry babies still complaining about our raise. Would it have been nice to get more? Of course it would have.
Given the bad economic times, we did great. The public was never on our side with this. We didn't give up furlough days. Any idiot can figure out if we took the 16% and agreed to give up furlough days we would have lost money. Once you give them one day, they keep taking more.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
"...The Chicago for Rahm campaign issued a press release Thursday evening touting Emanuel's plan for immigration reform...in Chicago.'
1/14/2011 02:11:00 PM
Hey, DUMMY!
You will not find two BIGGER ADVOCATES of the "Dream Act" than Del Valle and Chico.
Get a clue!
1/14/2011 09:09:00 PM
And EDDIE BURKE ALSO:
http://www.wlsam.com/Article.asp?id=2078430&spid=
OT: The girlfriend and I just saw the movie "The Dilemma." Not bad, I like Vince Vaughn. However... Cmdr Frank Gross got credit in the movie as APPEARING IN IT with some PO. Did he use his official CPD position as the head of the movie unit to get that job? Where's the CR# on that one?
Nice job ending the BS in the CPD Jody. Not.
Here's the million dollar question.
Why does the FOP and the PBBA stand back and watch us get dragged throught the mud without putting up any defense?
Take some of the millions of dollars that we pay in dues and take out a full page ad in both newspapers and explain to the public the reality of the budget crisis and the shortfalls in our pension funds. If it cost too much, contact the firefighter, teachers, ect. and collaberate. Isn't that their function? To defend our credibility? If we don't show unity and speak up soon, the misinformed public opinion is going leverage the unaware leaving the politicians with no choice but to appease them.
Is Chico a multi millionary I hear he is a bif city lawyer
1/14/2011 10:06:00 PM
Iff u lernn 2 spel, u sounds smrter! Just a hinnt.
Any idiot can figure out if we took the 16% and agreed to give up furlough days we would have lost money. Once you give them one day, they keep taking more.
1/14/2011 11:13:00 PM
and only an idiot wouldn't know by now, or would pretend he doesn't know, that that phantom '16%' offer was never gonna stay 'on the table' for more than a fraction of a second longer than needed to bullshit the public into believing it was genuine.
Anonymous said...
I'm not with the FOP, but it is getting tiring hearing of the cry babies still complaining about our raise. Would it have been nice to get more? Of course it would have.
Given the bad economic times, we did great. The public was never on our side with this. We didn't give up furlough days. Any idiot can figure out if we took the 16% and agreed to give up furlough days we would have lost money. Once you give them one day, they keep taking more.
1/14/2011 11:13:00 PM
There is NO documentation anywhere that the City demanded unpaid furlough days. Not on FOP web site, not in City's offer, No where. And all the pertinent pages from FOP web site are gone.
Arbitrator Benn wrote in his decision no such request was made of police, and I quote directly from the award:
"And there is no question that other City employees have had wage concessions through waived benefits like holidays, overtime pay, furloughs, shutdown days and wage freezes as well as layoffs, either negotiated or imposed.
No similar concessions have been requested by the City or imposed on the officers in this case."
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The request for unpaid furlough days never appear in print except in Greg Bella's article in the newsletter claiming there was such a request.
If this was so, wouldn't there be some documentation of it somewhere? The FOP did not think to make an issue of it and the City never claimed unpaid furlough days for police were an issue. If it was important, wouldn't the issue of unpaid furlough days be on paper somewhere? It isn't
In short, I believe that unpaid furlough days for FOP bargaining unit members were NEVER an issue. It is just a red herring to take attention away from the fact that the current regime in power at the FOP dropped the ball and left the 16.1% on the table.
We were awarded 10% instead.
I defy anyone at FOP Lodge 7 to prove that unpaid furlough days were ever an issue for rank and file bargaining unit members.
I don't believe they can. I looked and I could find nothing. If it is true, then show us. Prove it. Put the documentation out there FOP.
Why couldn't this story be about shortshanks?
1/14/2011 09:36:00 PM
baa, baa, baaaaaaaaaaaa........
Anonymous said...
A lot of seniors see Rahm as an arrogant young ass.
1/14/2011 12:22:00 AM
He is 51. Arrogant ass will do.
1/14/2011 12:34:00 PM
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I said they SEE him as an arrogant young ass. When you're eighty-five, I suppose 'young' is relative, anyway.
If someone is young enough to be your kid, you probably do look a little sideways at their credibility and attitude.
1/14/2011 05:51:00 PM
OK, you are right. The 90 year olds look at a 60 year old as kid too I guess.
I think the pension is gone for us 401k is on the way for us too much press about pensions now that quinn raised the taxes people are mad and are starting to look at city workers and state workers diffrent.
This is the guy that the F.O.P is going to endorse in this election, I can't believe the majority of Officer's would endorse Rahm, every Rep I talked too said the F.O.P is going to endorse Rahm. My question is why send out ballots if the F.L.O.P already knows who there man is, Rahm is a cut throat politician who is going to stand at nothing to line his pockets, just ask those who have opposed him, if you thought Shortshanks was bad wait till "NAPOLEAN" takes office.
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Your full of it, no one told you that.
I know at times people on this blog talk out of there ass, but the above is true several citywide memebers were in Area 5 and related that the F.O.P is leaning on Rahm causing several P.O's to voice there despleasure, if you think that there is any democracy in this City wakeup and smell the coffee, my understanding is that ballots were sent out to the members and that said ballots when recieved back to the union were being counted by an outside agency, after the results the union will endorse whoever the member's favored. I hope we don't endorse this Prick and I hope that the member's in this the Dept. are smart enough not to vote for Rahm.
Touch our pension and you will have a dept. Full of dogs and medical abusers! The gloves will be off !
1/14/2011 08:13:00 AM
Well it looks like Ramh is ready for that. Remember the other point he is talking about is firing "medical abusers".
Believe it or not, a lot of "working" people out there love Police presence. It brings security and usually a good conversation during those lonely nights at work.
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I'm always happy to see the CPD when I go out around the neighborhood. You always make me feel safe.
Anonymous said...
Any idiot can figure out if we took the 16% and agreed to give up furlough days we would have lost money. Once you give them one day, they keep taking more.
1/14/2011 11:13:00 PM
and only an idiot wouldn't know by now, or would pretend he doesn't know, that that phantom '16%' offer was never gonna stay 'on the table' for more than a fraction of a second longer than needed to bullshit the public into believing it was genuine.
1/15/2011 12:58:00 AM
Prove it.
What is true and documented in writing is that the 16.1% was on the table for around a year. Any idiot who can read knows that.
Prove it wasn't genuine. Prove unpaid furlough day were EVER requested of bargaining unit members as a condition of accepting the 16.1%
Why then did the arbitrator write that unpaid furlough days were never an issue for police?
go to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgpzlZf221I and see how a Chicago Police Officer who is running for 24th ward alderman feels about his fellow Officers. A must see if you work in 025.
1/14/2011 10:57:00 AM
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unbelievable
025 1st watch guy, huh?
Anonymous said...
Rahm will collect a pension for being elected to the us congress
1/14/2011 07:54:00 AM
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Rahm was also a federal employee.
Hence, a federal pension.
1/14/2011 01:10:00 PM
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pretty sure congressmen get free medical for life too
"The number one prohibitive reason people don't go to college is cost," Emanuel said in an interview with Telemundo Chicago.
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REASON #2: They are dumber than a bag of hammers!
Anonymous said...
"...The Chicago for Rahm campaign issued a press release Thursday evening touting Emanuel's plan for immigration reform...in Chicago.'
1/14/2011 02:11:00 PM
Hey, DUMMY!
You will not find two BIGGER ADVOCATES of the "Dream Act" than Del Valle and Chico.
Get a clue!
1/14/2011 09:09:00 PM
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OK so we are back to Mosely? What a fucking choice. It's like choosing between being hit with a raw fish or a dildo ...
Anonymous said...
Here's the million dollar question.
Why does the FOP and the PBBA stand back and watch us get dragged throught the mud without putting up any defense?
Take some of the millions of dollars that we pay in dues and take out a full page ad in both newspapers and explain to the public the reality of the budget crisis and the shortfalls in our pension funds. If it cost too much, contact the firefighter, teachers, ect. and collaberate. Isn't that their function? To defend our credibility? If we don't show unity and speak up soon, the misinformed public opinion is going leverage the unaware leaving the politicians with no choice but to appease them.
1/15/2011 12:09:00 AM
The Mike Shields Team will hire a paid, full time press secretary and media spokesman.
If the leaders of the union are not busy using our dues to pay off secret settlements to wrongfully fired pregnant lawyers there ought to be plenty of funds available to hire a professional media relations person.
To say nothing of the approximately $350,000 expenditure of FOP dues money in legal expenses to arrive at the secret settlement.
At this time, that settlement is still secret, for the recipient. Not for the payers, the current FOP regime. Still, you will never hear from them how much they paid. Our money yet it is a secret from us.
Cmdr Frank Gross ..
Haaa I never met a bigger no balls goof than him. I hope Karma bites you in the ass.
Sounds like there's more to the story about that sgt in 011. Let's hear an accurate account. Anybody? Don't be afraid.
Your full of it, no one told you that.
I know at times people on this blog talk out of there ass, but the above is true several citywide memebers were in Area 5 and related that the F.O.P is leaning on Rahm causing several P.O's to voice there despleasure, if you think that there is any democracy in this City wakeup and smell the coffee, my understanding is that ballots were sent out to the members and that said ballots when received back to the union were being counted by an outside agency, after the results the union will endorse whoever the member's favored. I hope we don't endorse this Prick and I hope that the member's in this the Dept. are smart enough not to vote for Rahm.
1/15/2011 01:58:00 AM
You are right FUCK RHAM he is ready to cut our pension and he also said that he would hire 250 more PO's ...wowww big deal!
He also mentioned on a mayoral candidate forum yesterday that he would remove PO's from desk jobs and replace them with a fresh cadets.....(what is he smoking)
I'm voting for Chico just like a lot of us, regardless of what the FOP is endorsing period!
I defy anyone at FOP Lodge 7 to prove that unpaid furlough days were ever an issue for rank and file bargaining unit members.
I don't believe they can. I looked and I could find nothing. If it is true, then show us. Prove it. Put the documentation out there FOP.
Citywide team passed copies of the arbitration decision out at roll calls. I believe it was page 53 of his decision that talks about the furlough days. I saw it. they have the proof. What is your response now oh was one?
that that phantom '16%' offer was never gonna stay 'on the table' for more than a fraction of a second longer than needed to bullshit the public into believing it was genuine.
Too bad that there is not a "like" button like on FaceBook. I would certainly have hit that regarding the above post. Perhaps an "agree" tab would be cool. I don't know if it could be done. I'm just saying.
These questions should be asked of Emmanuel.
IF you plan on cutting the pension(s) of those currently and planning on retirement within the city gov't...
* will that include aldermen who work less years, get a larger percentage for a 'part-time job?\If so WHO will approve that...the city council?
* will that 'across the board' cut include widows hardly managing now on their widows pension, those that did 20, 29+day, and 40 years all at the same percentage
* since pensions are controlled by the State not the city, what deal/control do you have over the governor and senators?
* lastly, if you are cutting out those who are/will receive(ing) multiple pensions... will that include you and Mayor Daley?
Hey, DUMMY!
You will not find two BIGGER ADVOCATES of the "Dream Act" than Del Valle and Chico.
Get a clue!
1/14/2011 09:09:00 PM
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Nearly every liberal democrat is going to back that Act due to the expansive Hispanic population. This will be decided in Congress, not City Hall.
Forget about the Dream Act and concentrate on your pension. Vote for Chico. Emanuel wants to jam us and make Chicago the launching pad for Obama's re-election effort.
You can always vote Republican for national elections if you don't support the Dream Act. I voted for Kirk and more than likely will vote against Obama (again).
Remember Chico......pension.....
Don't be surprised if "lexus lady' was shopping for an elderly relative or neighbor. People DO THAT for folks that can't get out to do it for themselves, especially when there is ice & snow on the ground
(elderly have a fear of broken hips/backs, doncha know). Don't assume everyone shopping with a link card is a leeching thief.
Most are you socialist liberal retard.
The request for unpaid furlough days never appear in print except in Greg Bella's article in the newsletter claiming there was such a request.
If this was so, wouldn't there be some documentation of it somewhere? The FOP did not think to make an issue of it and the City never claimed unpaid furlough days for police were an issue. If it was important, wouldn't the issue of unpaid furlough days be on paper somewhere? It isn't
In short, I believe that unpaid furlough days for FOP bargaining unit members were NEVER an issue. It is just a red herring to take attention away from the fact that the current regime in power at the FOP dropped the ball and left the 16.1% on the table.
We were awarded 10% instead.
I defy anyone at FOP Lodge 7 to prove that unpaid furlough days were ever an issue for rank and file bargaining unit members.
I don't believe they can. I looked and I could find nothing. If it is true, then show us. Prove it. Put the documentation out there FOP.
1/15/2011 12:59:00 AM
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http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local-beat/City-Mulls-Cop-Firefighter-Furloughs-66989302.html
To the poster who asked about FOP and the 007th District shooting about two weeks ago. It took FOP almost SEVEN hours to get someone to respond to Area 1. Shooting happened on 1st watch, approx 0100 hours, and FOP did not answer the phone or return numerous messages left on their system. Nice huh.
1/14/2011 11:29:00 AM
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More asshats starting rumors.
If you call after hours you do get a recorded message..HOWEVER, if you listen to it, it says in essence if this is an emergency press (pick a number) at which time you get an answering service (live operator) you give her the details and she gets in touch with the field rep on call.
As a former unit rep, I personally made notification for officer involved shootings while on mids. Never had a problem with their response time. They usually called me on my cell to give me their ETA!
If there was a delay..it is an extremely rare occurance. I wasn't there. But the poster was not accurate in saying they (FOP)didn't answer the phone..unless they no longer use the answering service. I haven't been involved in FOP for 4 years now. Maybe things have changed. Just saying!
Why doesn't the FOP invite all the heads of the unions representing city employees to the next FOP meeting. The pros and cons of all the mayoral candidates can be discussed until there is a consensus candidate.
1/14/2011 07:05:00 PM
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How about getting off your lazy ass, going to the FOP website, reading the candidates answers to the survey questionaires (very revealing), and then sending back your ballot in a timely fashion.
Instead of making yourself look like an uniformed fool..FOOL!
STUPID ASSHOLE SAYS:
I defy anyone at FOP Lodge 7 to prove that unpaid furlough days were ever an issue for rank and file bargaining unit members.
I don't believe they can. I looked and I could find nothing. If it is true, then show us. Prove it. Put the documentation out there FOP.
1/15/2011 12:59:00 AM
Here you go, dummy:
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local-beat/City-Mulls-Cop-Firefighter-Furloughs-66989302.html
Don't take my word for it, idiot. Here's an NBC report on the subject. It's a fact that the City negotiated with FOP for furlough days. Stop already with the lies Team Shields. While you are at it, show us some proof the other way, that Team Shields knew all about the bank meltdowns of 2008 and the great recession in advance and wanted to take the City's bullshit offer. We all can see through the lies.
To: 1/15/2011 1259am.
You must not be at any roll calls because the guys with bella were in 014 and they had it with them. Not looking good for you mikey........stop the b.s.
will that include you and Mayor Daley?
1/15/2011 10:21:00 AM
surely you jest, grasshopper.
Why then did the arbitrator write that unpaid furlough days were never an issue for police?
1/15/2011 05:57:00 AM
do you believe that everything in writing is automatically true?
The Rahminator's arrogance will be his downfall. Mark thy words.
Get a clue!
1/14/2011 09:09:00 PM
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we have a clue, and it leads us back to your rahmbo jambo doorstep.
OK so we are back to Mosely? What a fucking choice. It's like choosing between being hit with a raw fish or a dildo ...
1/15/2011 06:13:00 AM
for some, there is no difference.
and they like it!
The Mike Shields Team will hire a paid, full time press secretary and media spokesman.
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Who the fuck does this clown shields think he is? President of the U.S.? Press secretary? GFY, arrogant clout babies.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgpzlZf221I
This guy states his main reason for running for alderman is to keep the steets safe, well no better way to do that than to work as a police offier.
025th dist. officers should watch the way he treats citizens, sounds a lil racist himself
Arbi-traitor. Next contract should have 3 arbitrators, not leaving a huge decision rest on the shoulders of one person. bs
There is NO documentation anywhere that the City demanded unpaid furlough days. Not on FOP web site, not in City's offer, No where. And all the pertinent pages from FOP web site are gone.
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Hey, dickhead. Didja notice that the other unions who accepted took three days the first year and fifteen the next? Oh yeah, and no paid holidays anymore.
Do your fuckin research before you talk shit.
Mike, please tell your minions to stop with the no unpaid furlo day fiction. I have a scan of the article that will settle this once and for all. Anyone who wants to see it can email me at j.fed501@yahoo.com
I'll send you a PDF.
SCC you can have the exclusive if you'd like
Anonymous said...
There is NO documentation anywhere that the City demanded unpaid furlough days. Not on FOP web site, not in City's offer, No where. And all the pertinent pages from FOP web site are gone.
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Hey, dickhead. Didja notice that the other unions who accepted took three days the first year and fifteen the next? Oh yeah, and no paid holidays anymore.
Do your fuckin research before you talk shit.
1/15/2011 08:10:00 PM
I did research. Plenty. I don't give a shit about other unions, I am not in other unions. I don't care how many unpaid furlough days and how progressive they got to be for other unions.
The fact is, and remains un-refuted, that FOP members did not take any such days nor were we asked to take such days and that, in fact, none were ever demanded in any City proposal.
Don't try and compare what some other union had to do with the FOP and City proposals to the FOP. Fire and Police were never asked in any City proposal to take unpaid furlough days.
That was nothing more than smoke to blow up our ass in newspapers and by quotes planted with machine aldermen to make us nervous.
Again, there is NO documentation anywhere that the City demanded unpaid furlough days. Not on FOP web site, not in City's offer, No where.
The only documentation is in the arbitrator's decision stating that unpaid furlough days were never an issue in contract negotiations with the bargaining unit, that is, the FOP.
Prove otherwise.
Anonymous said...
Hello, Mike Shields. No CPD officer has been fired for an on duty shooting since Nolan was President. You and Deb Kirby's kids keep trying on trying to make an issue of something that just isn't there. Why don't you actually do something over at the pension board instead? .
1/14/2011 08:24:00 AM
Serena Daniels, Michael Williams and Stafford Wilson were fired by the police board for killing LaTanya Haggerty.
And the Haggerty Family won an $18 million award from the City.
Oh wait, wasn't Nolan president of FOP then? Well, I guess you were right. In 9 years of Mark Donahue, no officer was fired. Lots were put through hell.
Your point was what exactly?
Gotta' get back to my work at the pension board now. Just kidding, I am not Mike Shields but I sort of look like him except for height and weight, age, hair and eye color and ancestry.
Anonymous said...
Mike, please tell your minions to stop with the no unpaid furlo day fiction. I have a scan of the article that will settle this once and for all. Anyone who wants to see it can email me at j.fed501@yahoo.com
I'll send you a PDF.
SCC you can have the exclusive if you'd like
1/15/2011 08:39:00 PM
An ARTICLE will settle this once and for all? An ARTICLE? You're kidding, right?
An Article, that is rich, oh yes, that proves everything. That would be a newspaper article? That is what you offer up as "proof?"
What an exclusive, oh boy, an article.
And the City did what, send this "article" to the FOP for use in contract negotiations? Shove the article and the exclusive up your alimentary canal.
That is not proof. That is more bullshit. Prove it was a subject of contract negotiations, a demand made by the City of Chicago, in writing.
Anonymous said...
Arbi-traitor. Next contract should have 3 arbitrators, not leaving a huge decision rest on the shoulders of one person. bs
1/15/2011 07:39:00 PM
I would be ok with a coin flip on each issue. Just a series of coin flips. Or arm wrestling.
Mike, please tell your minions to stop with the no unpaid furlo day fiction. I have a scan of the article that will settle this once and for all.
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You are right; it was never brought to arbitration BECAUSE THE FOP SAID NO to 16.1% IF we took 3 unpaid furlo days during the negotiation meetings. That’s how it works!! But do you think Shields would have picked up the phone and asked someone at the FOP how negotiations meetings are run?
No he just spreads LIE, LIES, and MORE LIES! Anyone who votes for anyone on the Shields Team has rocks in his/her head.
This just goes to show you how uninformed the Shields Team is. They have no clue what goes on during the contract negotiation meetings.
Peter Pan and the Lost Boys will screw us royally if elected, they are uniformed, and they have no experience.
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