Englewood Flyover Project
Once we heard "Englewood Flyover" we assumed this was a way to avoid the entire 007 District and it had our full support:
Funding is in jeopardy for construction of a major rail-bridge system to ease at least some of the freight and passenger train congestion in the Chicago region, officials warned Thursday.
The argument against building the Englewood flyover bridges on Chicago's South Side at one of the nation's busiest railroad junctions has nothing to do with the merits of the project.
Instead, the long-planned bridge is among billions of dollars worth of infrastructure improvements that are being threatened by the battle playing out in Congress over the soaring national debt.
- Chicago’s Englewood Flyover project, which is pegged to receive $133 million in High Speed Intercity Passenger Rail Program stimulus funds, will create nearly 1,500 jobs in Illinois, according to Gov. Pat Quinn.
[...] The project will help establish high-speed rail service between Chicago and Detroit.
Do we really need a faster way for all of Detroit's problems to work their way over here to Chicago? We seem to be headed that direction just fast enough on our own.
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
42 Comments:
It's Obamarail! Much more visible, streamlined, stylish than mundane home heating subsidies for the elderly and disabled -- which will be cut to pay for this.
Daley wants long-haul, intercity Amtrak to plan short-hop, commuter-type rail service between Union Station and the nonexistent Western Terminal at O'Hare.
Shouldn't these people be cleaning out their desks?
Ha, it will create NEARLY 1,500 jobs.
Sure it will hahaha...and what kind of jobs are we talking about? Part-time temporary "Put Illinois to Work" min-wage jobs.
You know with us being a sanctuary city and all I don't know why the high speed rail isn't running to Tijuana yet.
Get that drug cartel money up here you know? Detroit is broke. Get the drug money up here where they can spend it in the new casinos and pay for parking and that kind of thing.
And these idiots in Englewood believe those 1500 jobs are coming their way. Uh, what experience do you have other than standing on street corners all day and spitting?
Traditionally Passenger Trains have names. The 'High Speed Rail' from Detroit to Chicago to St. Louis should be called 'The Crack Pipe Express'
When ever you hear "high speed rail" going anywhere it's a red flag. It means liberal dems are going to throw our money away on more useless b.s. Look at every high speed rail project proposed, they are all nonsense. I worked in Engelwood for a long time. These pols will sell the residents a bill of goods promising that they will benefit with jobs and will later take credit for all they have done for the neighborhood. But nobody in that area will make a dime. I think we know who will though.
Just how does building a bridge result in 1,500 jobs? 100 workers, 1,400 supervisors?
I just check this web site out WWW.endofamerica2011.com. VERY INTRESTING....
Why would anyone want to go to Detroit or St. Louis - and as rapidly as possible??
Another democrat boondoggle white elephant that will further bankrupt this country. A sorry ass pathetic pander to the clueless greens. This is NOT Europe or Japan. There is not a shortage of Open space in this country. We have the best highway system in the world. Just how many people a day would take a train to St Louis, Detroit, Milw? INSANITY
They are connecting Englewood and Detroit? Are you surprised? Idiots are in charge of everything.
more OBAMARAMA DRAMA
The project will help establish high-speed rail service between Chicago and Detroit.
Why dont you build it between here and some corn field in Iowa. How about a swamp in Florida. Better yet, a rock in west Texas.
Buliding this thing between Chicago and a PLACE, would be nice. A destination, somewhere where someone wants to go. Not Detroit.
If they do the high speed line along Normal and Shields, that would be very interesting indeed. First off, it's like Beirut there. Second off, that line is picked clean by all the little "thieving hoodlums" on a daily basis. If they send a high speed rail through there, it's gonna be covered in blood and plasma tv parts from the locals getting creamed as they scramble with the goods. Right Martis?!! Martis? Is that train on our track or the one a few over...?
The main purpose of the flyover was
to relieve the congestion caused by
Metra, Amtrak, and the Norfolk
Southern and it's Joliet Corridor
trains. The flyover would handle
Metra trains thru the area and
Norfolk Southern and Amtrak would
use the regular tracks eliminating
the "bottlenecks" of all of them
vying for the same tracks.
Maybe if the Feds would cancel the
1 billion dollars they promised to
Egypt to form a new regiem, I mean
government, then that money could be diverted to the Englewood
Flyover project.
But then again, it appears that
financially supporting foreign
governments who don't give a rat's
behind about the U.S. is more
desirable. To hell with U.S. taxpayers, let them suffer or do the best they can, we don't owe
them anything. And they'll still
return us to Washington, regardless
of how we mistreat or use them.
This high speed rail isn't even "high speed"! It tops out at 79mph and has stops, meaning that under the right conditions, you could actually drive to your destination faster.
Not to mention, there is no demand or need for this service!!! I can't believe Obummer wants to throw money at this. Our Country is under a crushing debt that grows everyday, we DO NOT NEED THIS NONSENSE!!!
By the way, great response to the Libyan crisis...keep ignoring it and it will go away...
I would rather pay for a bridge to nowhere. Dumbest idea ever.
All yall need to ease up. Why so angry? I would rather have my tax dollars going to a high speed train than sone rich dudes summer home... I also work in englewood and the people don't just 'stand on the corner and spit'. I hope everyone reading this realizes how ignorant the people commenting above really are..
The only flyover that is needed in englewood is a C-130 gunship taking out all of the shitheads.
1500 Jobs for an area that needs the population to get their asses off the Link and get real jobs?
After all that $Money was spent to build a subway terminal in the loop for the high speed EL trains to O'Hare (yeah, using the same tracks as the slow speed O'Hare Blue Line) they decide to extend Amtrak to O'Hare????
WOW!!!!!
And we wonder why the State, County & City are BROKE and the Pensions are unfunded!
Englewood is the historic crossing of what used to be the Pennsylvania Railroad, the New York Central, and the Rock Island. I don't have the material in front of me, but -- say during WWII -- it handled HUNDREDS of trains a day. There was a tower there, with operators to line up the switches for each move.
The Rock Island put two heavy commuter rush hours through there five days per week (back when the area had a working population), and a lot of other trains as well -- as for the other two, there is a famous photo of the NYC's 20th Century Limited racing the Pennsylvania's Broadway Limited east out of the station. These were each railroad's top Chicago-New York trains, so this was always a bit of a publicity stunt. Just these two trains often ran in multiple sections to handle heavy loads -- you might have three, four, five 20th Centurys, one behind the other -- plus hundreds of other passenger and freight movements.
This was done sixty years ago with steam locomotives and telephones; two-way radio was not even universal yet.
Today, with far less traffic, we supposedly need to spend zillions here.
The "1,500 jobs" that will be created probably count current employees of the railroads and their contractors -- additional manpower will be temporary and transient construction workers, undoubtedly most of it from outside Englewood.
Pork barrel. The fallacy of fixing a depression by pouring concrete on it.
The purpose of a "flyover" crossing is to eliminate work, so even the current remote-control operators of the Englewood crossing will have much less to do, and may even have their positions consolidated into some control center even farther away.
I rode through there many times as a kid, going east to visit relatives. Sadly, the neighborhood turned dangerous in the early 1960s. Although we were much closer to Englewood, we went the opposite way, north, all the way downtown to board our train at La Salle Street Station. The tower at Englewood was torn down many years ago, as was the abandoned, vandalized Englewood Union Station.
Freight crews were advised to keep pulling through Englewood, to keep attackers from uncoupling cars, tampering with air brakes, etc. They ran through with engine and caboose doors and windows closed and locked, and if a crewman had to go out onto the caboose platform to "pick up orders" from the tower, he did so with a lighted fusee -- red flare -- burning in one hand to ward off robbers.
Even Obamarail won't be stopping at Englewood.
Sounds like a great idea..... if they make it one-way only.
Dont worry about it- cause it aint gonna happen anytime soom. Dicky Daley and Dan "Daddy gave me my job" lipinski held a news conference at 63rd & Nottingham many years ago. THey were announcing that they were building a bridge over the tracks.
NEVER HAPPENED- NEVER WILL
It also allows the Metra trains to reach the south burbs faster...
The high speed train to St. Louis will reduce current travel time from 4 hours to 3 hours.
These muthas' done lost dey' mind.
I gotta get to St. Lois now, I can't wait 4 hours!
The trick is if the train does not make a profit, Illinois gets stuck w/ the entire tab.
Another state turned down the same " deal "
I will implement my own Chicago Flyover project soon. Upon retirement I will fly over Chicago whenever I go on trips around the country by air, being careful never to actually stop here. Flying over is much better than stopping and having to stay.
"Englewood Flyover Project"
If only it were true. 3 or 4 sorties ought to do the trick. Imagine it, a fresh start for society.
Reply to 11:26:00 a.m.
You "work" in Englewood? What an oddity. Whaddya do? Pick up shell casings for salvage? And, yes, the other peoples do be standin' around and spittin'. All. Day. Long. And nights, too! It is not the posters on this site who are ignorant, you asstard.
The only flyover that is needed in englewood is a C-130 gunship taking out all of the shitheads.
2/26/2011 12:25:00 PM
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Spectre is too surgical...a B-52 would be more appropriate.
No, they don’t just stand on the corner & spit. Some sell rocks, some sell weed, some sell what's just been stolen.
If not making multiple babies w/ multiple mommas. Between this busy schedule, they shoot & kill each other w / a little gang-banging on the side. But I'm sure it happens in EVERY neighborhood.
The working people there, and there are, have to put up w/ this shit. No relief, no hope.
But we're building bullet trains & bicycle bridges.
Spectre is too surgical...a B-52 would be more appropriate.
2/26/2011 10:51:00 PM
if you want to both level the buildings and excavate the foundations.
Anonymous said...
The only flyover that is needed in englewood is a C-130 gunship taking out all of the shitheads.
2/26/2011 12:25:00 PM
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Spectre is too surgical...a B-52 would be more appropriate.
2/26/2011 10:51:00 PM
Nothing like a good carpet bombing in the morning. Closest thing to the smell of victory since they stopped making napalm.
Anonymous said...
It also allows the Metra trains to reach the south burbs faster...
2/26/2011 04:53:00 PM
The money makers are the freight trains. Passenger traffic loses money. And the major bottleneck in the middle of the country is right here, Chicago. The freight train haulers have been calling for relief for years. Of course now the economy has eased the need somewhat. If/when the economy improves the need for a fast way through Chicago for freight trains will again be needed. or the railroads will just go around.
Anonymous said...
Daley wants long-haul, intercity Amtrak to plan short-hop, commuter-type rail service between Union Station and the nonexistent Western Terminal at O'Hare.
2/26/2011 12:23:00 AM
Who gives a flying fuck what Daley wants?
"The money makers are the freight trains. Passenger traffic loses money. And the major bottleneck in the middle of the country is right here, Chicago. The freight train haulers have been calling for relief for years."
--2/27/2011 06:44:00 AM
They rebuilt the crossing out at Brighton Park, by 36th/Western -- Back in the day, say during the huge traffic surge of WWII, there were at least four different railroad companies going through there -- PRR, B&OCT, GM&O, CJ (the Stockyards railroad) -- and it was done on an "all trains must stop and then proceed" rule, with hand-operated signals worked by operators in a little shed with a bunch of telephones.
Today, I think there are two railroads running over it, CN and NS, with much less traffic -- but now it was a "bottleneck," and has been re-done with the latest computerized signals, new rail, etc.
I dunno. It just seems like we used to do much more with much less.
19th ward baby
More irish welfare jobs!
Walsh mchugh or kenny will build the flyover and it will be all good, in the hood!
"Today, I think there are two railroads running over it, CN and NS, with much less traffic -- but now it was a "bottleneck," and has been re-done with the latest computerized signals, new rail, etc.
I dunno. It just seems like we used to do much more with much less."
2/27/2011 04:45:00 PM
Tracks were better then, railroads ran better, equipment was kept up better. 5 man crews were the norm. Today that train is run by just two crew members.
NS is huge, created with the merger of the Southern Railway and the Norfolk and Western which then bought up much of the massive Conrail system.
Canadian National bought up Illinois Central and other smaller lines.
Don't know about total tonnage or number of trains. Last time I rode out west on a motorcycle I took US 30. There were freight trains stacked up going east and west all the way from Chicago to Cheyenne Wyoming. Every few miles, both directions. It is slower now I imagine.
Neutron bomb, anyone?
HOW ABOUT A HI SPEED TRAIN TO MIAMI BEACH.
I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF AN OFFICER GOING ON VACATION TO DETROIT!
EVEN THEIR FOOTBALL TEAM THE LIONS BLOWS.
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