Swiping is Here?
Admin Fax message out today... or at least brought to our attention today.
007, 009 and HQ start swiping on Valentine's Day.
Remember, 7.5 minutes = the full quarter hour. This is going to bury the overtime budget in short order.
UPDATE: We may have gotten an old version of the directive? Someone says it's for civilians citywide on 14 Feb and 007, 009, and HQ were pilot district? How did that all work out for everyone then?
007, 009 and HQ start swiping on Valentine's Day.
Remember, 7.5 minutes = the full quarter hour. This is going to bury the overtime budget in short order.
UPDATE: We may have gotten an old version of the directive? Someone says it's for civilians citywide on 14 Feb and 007, 009, and HQ were pilot district? How did that all work out for everyone then?
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
122 Comments:
I have never swiped in and have never heard a thing about it.
I cant wait to read the book "How to ru(i)n a Department" by J-fraud.
OVERTIME HERE I COME
"7.5 minutes = the full quarter hour."
I could be wrong, but a dim memory of my time clock days tells me that punitive stuff like this was llegal.
We were told to swipe five years ago. It will go away like it always has. Don't feel bad for headquarters though. M-F 8-4...
Let the union busting begin...
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Re-read it SCC. 007, 009 and HQ were pilot facilities. It is effective CW for CIVILIANS on 14 Feb. Happy VD day!
Print out the FAX...
... I don't think it means swiping.
Remember, 7.5 minutes = the full quarter hour. This is going to bury the overtime budget in short order.
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What would bury the budget is if the 7.5 minutes would be APPROVED by the watch commander for POLICE WORK that you really did.
Not that many ARE doing police work ....
I sure in the hell ain't.
Remember, 7.5 minutes = the full quarter hour. This is going to bury the overtime budget in short order.
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Just because you screwed off in the locker room for more than 7.5 minutes DOES NOT mean you will get overtime pay.
You will still have to justify the overtime and have it approved by the watch commander on a slip.
If this means all the dollies, tact team glory boys, foot patrol 5year dogs and other special do-nothings will have to work a full day like the rest of us ...
well, then I am for it!!!
They said start wiping. Start wiping your mouth after you kiss that ass.
OT: Mr Weis, I know you don't read this insignificant blog but if you happen to run across this please make the appropriate command change in 017. This arrogant piece of garbage captain DD is running around like she owns the place. She has no people skills or police skills. There are still some good people working here, get this biatch out before she destroys the place!
again? for real for real time?
They.ve tried it before in area 3 for a few months, then canceled it. Nothing new.
swiping with what, the fucking system they have don't work and it has been demonstrated before that it don't work.
Starks on his way out issued the swipe order, and Jfled canceled the order when he came here.
Now Jfled is on his way out, and he issues the swipe order. Obviously cpd superintendents who don't get their way must flex their muscles.
These goofs truly have no idea that there are more people on this department working free overtime than there are people stealing time. Its gonna cost them.
And just because someone is at work for 8.5 hours doesn't mean they actually do any work.
I know a few tact-do-nothings shitting in their pants
Yawn... how many times have they tried to make us swipe in the last few years. It'll never work, especially when they see all the overtime pile up.
January ended Monday with 27 homicides, a 35-percent increase from the 20 homicides recorded in January 2010, RedEye determined. Two homicides have been recorded so far in February. Twenty-three homicides were logged in February last year, based on RedEye data.
tswartz@tribune.com
Hey Jodi
People are safer, they only perceive they are not, right?
Not in the contract I thought.
My card doesn't swipe, does that mean I don't get paid? I work the 1st watch, do I have to go to hq for a new card on my own time? Do I get to put in a slip for replacing dept issued equipment on my time or are they going to have someone at hq during my watch?
Ohhhhh, swiping is here! Again. Nothing ever changes.
Yeah Right
Good luck collecting the fines
All civilians regardless of unit of assignment will swipe in and out.
I work in 007. All the times I say "what ever" about 15-20 Min I stay over, not no more sir. Fuck you pay me!
I can't wait for the bosses to start swiping!!!
Old idea just recycled
Five years ago? Our unit had to start swiping in 1997! Talk about a waste of city money. Had to stop because 1.) it just wasn't working and 2.) company that did repairs to swipe card machines went out of business - couldn't fix after being broken.
Who cares? It doesn't bother me.
Know for sure that it won't be attached to payrole for at least 8 months, but the contract is signed for impementation. Most likely 12-18 months
When I started 16 years ago, they were saying this system will work. I know the knronos system. I ran it at 2 prior jobs.
It will never work for CPD. One missed swipe by at least 50 Cops per day per district per shift will take the average person 8 hours to run/update all the exceptions a daily report will produce.
It will never work unless you have a fulltime person assigned to fix all the missed swipes everyday. Sounds like someone is going to pocket a kickback for an updated version of Kronos that wont work.
How about deflating all the over inlfated egos and build moral back up you idiots!
Funny thing....Training Division civilians to swipe in beginning Monday. However, there are NO swipe boxes there!
scc,
Can you put up a thread containing a list of all officers running for office and have it stay as the top thread until election day on 22 Feb?
we need to get some of our guys elected and remind everyone to vote.
Just a thought
These clowns can't keep the damn mugshot system working, how the hell are they going to do swiping in and out? If the swipe machines ever break, will anyone fix them? I think not because the city never pays anyone on a reasonable schedule.
I'll start swiping when you guarantee to stop messing with my pention.....until then, blow me!
If you have Kronos, the system does work. Supervisors will have the ability to override the system and change times . Everything you do leaves a record. In private industry, you have about 7 minutes on either side of you starting time to swipe in. Swiping in after this does not guarentee OT. The OT goes to a supervisor on a weekly basis for approval. Most places had to put a camera on the machines to stop people from swiping in their friends or damaging the machines. Get ready for this also. All of those ghost employees and those who like to come late and leave early will have to change their ways. Swiping someone in or out is usually a offense that will cost you your job, as it should.Welcome to the rest of the world.
I worked for a suburban agency before coming here. They tried the swipe thinking that it would save them money. After three months, they took the machine down. They realized that cops worked more unpaid hours than they realized. After the swipe went in, the overtime went through the roof. Same will happen here.
I work in a civilian city department. We've been swiping since at least 2001. Therefore we're not lucky enough to get to leave early without burning time. And haven't been for at least 10 years.
Our department has a TON of overtime. And it has to be APPROVED by a supervisor for us to get paid for it (oh, wait, we DON'T get paid for it). If we don't swipe out until 15 minutes, 30 minutes, an HOUR after our shift ends, it's just on us. We won't get credit for overtime unless a supervisor says "Yes, he/she was actually working."
Anonymous said...
My card doesn't swipe, does that mean I don't get paid? I work the 1st watch, do I have to go to hq for a new card on my own time? Do I get to put in a slip for replacing dept issued equipment on my time or are they going to have someone at hq during my watch?
2/12/2011 04:20:00 AM
What if I fall? Do I stand up? What if this you moron. A street wise officer will always learn the angles to any system they develop.
Well I did not believe this until I saw it from my own 2 eyes. It appears that the great, tactical, SOS replacement MSF are implementing a new tactic on the streets in the 011 District..."IMPOUND FOR A GUN"
These hard charging MSF hair gels are pulling over cars and threaten to impound vehicle they offer the "deal" of...."get me a gun and I WONT impound your car".
Listen hair gels. This new "tactic" of yours is going to do nothing but jam you up!! Atleast when the real SOS did a deal they had the guy on FELONY charges! (that was about 5 years ago when we could do real police work)
Bottom line boys and girls, wait... let me speak in MSF lingo..."boyz and girlz" making deals for guns ESPECIALLY if ur not even getting them on REAL charges is going to F*CK you one of these days.
Wise up and be just continue with 2 cars (6 officers) pulling over cars, then ALL of u bringing it in to 011th District and processing ur (1) bag weed or TVB. The "gun" deals are just showing how much you don't know about this job!!
Swipe my balls!!
The kronos swipers haven't worked in years and have never worked.
The only thing my ID card gets swiped in is the gas pump computer.
Anonymous said...
OT: Mr Weis, I know you don't read this insignificant blog but if you happen to run across this please make the appropriate command change in 017. This arrogant piece of garbage captain DD is running around like she owns the place. She has no people skills or police skills. There are still some good people working here, get this biatch out before she destroys the place!
2/12/2011 01:47:00 AM
Sounds like the same old Dory all right. Watch out, she might sue everyone in sight if she is disrespected.
Want a laugh and to see how DD got promoted to Capt and received some nice deferred comp money check out:
http://cases.justia.com/us-court-of-appeals/F3/422/611/569523/
I will be swiping... with a rare earth magnet to the card reader.
My cheap $24.99 Timex is more accurate than those thousand dollar machines flashing the wrong date and time. Simply pathetic.
Swiping my ass! Swiping, my ass!Swiping? My ass! It's all in how you say it! But it is a crock of shit no matter how it is said!
They can't even keep the CLEAR system working properly. The in car cameras are always broken, and the in car computers work about half the time. Are they kidding with this directive? Fix what we have now before you add more to the mix of things that don't work. Also can they get rid of this clown already? Jody take a hike will you please.
OT, but another example of "Meet The New Boss, Same As The Old Boss"
Sun-Times: "Preckwinkle plans $43,000 raise for campaign backer"
Read the entire article, it will make you ill, I really thought she was different.
So when your cases get kicked because of term when there aren't enough ASAs, you can thank Toni for giving her friends cushy jobs--just like Toddler.
I'm definetly for it, everyday the same people show up for roll call 10 - 15 minutes late . Let's hope they dock the 15 minutes pay .
Tactical and Units are always late and leave early .
It's about time , all you heavy weights have to work a full shift.
Rahmbo that's where you'll save on CPD budget , dock the late arrivals '
Swiping is not used for payroll purposes. If you want to get overtime, then you must turn in a slip.
this whole swipe thing is just a payback to hubermans friends.
the city just bought a boatload of these swipe machines at $3500 each.
just look at the time line, the mayor is leaving, he knows the city is broke, but he can afford to buy 1000 swipe machines at $3500 each??
just follow the money..........
Does this mean the little fat useless ghetto civilian in the Vice Unit that waddles up and down the hallways harrassing all the sergeants about nonsense has to work a full 8 hours? Oh my GOD, what shall she do??? This means she has to swipe at the M.E.'s (other PT gig) office too? That job can be done in about 15 minutes by one of the office dolls that are hidden up there.
Hey Jodi, you want to cut the FAT literally? Then how about getting rid of all the useless civilians that do absolutely nothing but suck up free air and take up space.
People come in, show their face for a few hours, shuffle papers, utilize the xerox machines for there PT gigs, and collect a nice free pay check. Do something about it!
2/12/2011 07:23:00 AM......... .....and 2.) company that did repairs to swipe card machines went out of business - couldn't fix after being broken.
They went out of THIS business, but found out trucking paid more.......LOL
I just heard that Rahm Emanual is starring in his own movie to be shot right here in Chicago.
Its called...
9 1/2 Fingers
City workers hang out at police , fire staions and the gas shack a half hour before they get off work.
what kind of BS is that they aren't working and how far did they travel .
As a Police Officer without clout , I work a full shift and have no problem swiping in and out . I'll be happy to see all the tactical and captains pets working a full shift .
I hope they deduct pay from the habtual officers that are late everyday.
Re-read the order. It has nothingto do with swiping. It is referring to the a & a's. A couple years ago we switched from paper to automated a&a's. (you know, the kind Karen B from wta HATES because everyone can see when she is carried code 49).
This order now mandates that civilians be put on the automated a&a's as they have been on paper ones up till now. That's all it is.
Just remember to swipe in AS SOON AS YOU WALK IN THE DOOR. and then swipe out AS YOU WALK OUT THE DOOR. Make sure you get as much as you can each day you are there.
Civilians , 08-1600's and Light Duty really need to be put in check. And make the Supervisors accountable.
All accoountability and penalty falls on the lowly beat guy.
Never a word to the paper shufflers coming and going practically setting their own start times.
Ever try calling review before 0500 or after 1400 ?
And we pay them "duty availability" ?
Never swipe never will....
Take it easy tough guys, swiping is not tied to your paycheck, nor will it ever be.
Thanks FLOP ur more worried about the mayor's race than helping coppers
OT Ghetto lottery. http://policelink.monster.com/news/articles/150636-cop-killers-family-demands-apology-threatens-suit
I'll start swiping when you guarantee to stop messing with my pention.....until then, blow me!
2/12/2011 08:19:00 AM
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Sorry, but if you are the Police, and after all the coverage in the media you still don't know how to spell P-E-N-S-I-O-N, you my friend don't deserve one!
Swipe it down JPUD's asscrack.
Sorry, but if you are the Police, and after all the coverage in the media you still don't know how to spell P-E-N-S-I-O-N, you my friend don't deserve one!
2/12/2011 02:56:00 PM
and for being a nitpicking putz, neither do you.
Thanks FLOP ur more worried about the mayor's race than helping coppers
2/12/2011 02:01:00 PM
can't chew gum and walk at the same time, can you?
Anonymous said...
Thanks FLOP ur more worried about the mayor's race than helping coppers
2/12/2011 02:01:00 PM
My kid was 6 for 7 at the free throw line last night. Should I blame FOP for thet one miss? Grow up!
Funny thing....Training Division civilians to swipe in beginning Monday. However, there are NO swipe boxes there!
Yes there are...
Want a laugh and to see how DD got promoted to Capt and received some nice deferred comp money check out:
http://cases.justia.com/us-court-of-appeals/F3/422/611/569523/
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Wow. this is unreal. How did the fact that she is one of 11 kids or had child care issues or was getting a divorce matter in the case? She "fell down" when she did not get promoted? Fell down? Are you fucking kidding me? We have the best court system in the country, but juries really do make some fucked up decisions.
OCD will be screwed on Saturdays
Does KB and Ray Ray has to swipes? or wipes?
I work in a civilian city department. We've been swiping since at least 2001. Therefore we're not lucky enough to get to leave early without burning time. And haven't been for at least 10 years.
Our department has a TON of overtime. And it has to be APPROVED by a supervisor for us to get paid for it (oh, wait, we DON'T get paid for it). If we don't swipe out until 15 minutes, 30 minutes, an HOUR after our shift ends, it's just on us. We won't get credit for overtime unless a supervisor says "Yes, he/she was actually working."
2/12/2011 08:34:00 AM
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And you know why? BECAUSE THE KRONOS MACHINES DON'T WORK. They have no idea what time you swiped in and out on most of those machines!
City workers waiting at police stations to swipe out? I have seen people sitting for a couple of hours at the library and then getting up to swipe out. And no they are not employed by the library. How about building inspectors?
Anonymous said...
OT: Mr Weis, I know you don't read this insignificant blog but if you happen to run across this please make the appropriate command change in 017. This arrogant piece of garbage captain DD is running around like she owns the place. She has no people skills or police skills. There are still some good people working here, get this biatch out before she destroys the place!
2/12/2011 01:47:00 AM
Sounds like the same old Dory all right. Watch out, she might sue everyone in sight if she is disrespected.
Want a laugh and to see how DD got promoted to Capt and received some nice deferred comp money check out:
http://cases.justia.com/us-court-of-appeals/F3/422/611/569523/
2/12/2011 08:58:00 AM
Damn. That's bullshit. I think I'm feeling discriminating against for not being promoted, too. It's so distressing. I need monetary damages awarded to me, and a promotion ... NOW!
I will swipe when Jody stops collecting two pay checks from the city and did he really try to get a pension from the police department that he hates?
What an asshole.
How about this for a piece of German efficiency??
Let's promote a whole bunch of idiots who cannot do well on a test
Force the guys who are smart, but were passed over for promotion by the above idiots to submit written ideas on how to do things to the above idiots
Use the aforementioned ideas, claim that the above idiots thought of them all on their own, then promote the idiots again based upon the success of their ideas
This is what really bad bosses do, when things get bad!!!
Sworn at headquarters has been swiping for years, no big deal. We heard that the reason behind it was to determine how many sworn were on duty at any given time in case the shit hit the fan. It will work in our favor if the whole city has to do it because we'll have an accurate number of on duty.
'Starks on his way out issued the swipe order, and Jfled canceled the order when he came here.'
Actually it was Charlie Williams.
OT, but very important. The old impound or hold a shithead hostage for a gun is on IPRA's front burner. They have stated they will charge any coppers doing this with unlawful restraint or even kidnapping whatever the circumstances may be. We do have cases that officers are ready to be served. Signed, someone from IPRA.
Sounds like the same old Dory all right. Watch out, she might sue everyone in sight if she is disrespected.
Want a laugh and to see how DD got promoted to Capt and received some nice deferred comp money check out:
http://cases.justia.com/us-court-of-appeals/F3/422/611/569523/
2/12/2011 08:58:00 AM
I'm sick after reading this. Well she keeps getting what she wants, I guess all you have to do is sue. I wonder how many times she has fallen to the ground after not getting promoted to Commander. What a Freaking joke, anyone that would respect her is soft.
OT, but another example of "Meet The New Boss, Same As The Old Boss"
Sun-Times: "Preckwinkle plans $43,000 raise for campaign backer"
Read the entire article, it will make you ill, I really thought she was different.
So when your cases get kicked because of term when there aren't enough ASAs, you can thank Toni for giving her friends cushy jobs--just like Toddler.
2/12/2011 09:36:00 AM
Haha I just shit myself laughing. Felony review is a joke with it's bottom rung class graduates
Sorry, but if you are the Police, and after all the coverage in the media you still don't know how to spell P-E-N-S-I-O-N, you my friend don't deserve one!
Hey Hair gel lay off WTF I have a hs degree
This order now mandates that civilians be put on the automated a&a's as they have been on paper ones up till now. That's all it is.
2/12/2011 11:29:00 AM
Civilians have already been on the automated A & A's.
The D.N. was for a pilot program in 007, 009, and HQ.
The Fax Msg. that came out Friday states, " the pilot program becomes operational on 14 February 2011, at 0001 hours, for ALL CIVILIAN DEPARTMENT PERSONNEL, regardless of unit of assignment.
So, right now it is for civilians only.
If you have a useless civilian or sownr for that matter in you unit, and no one does anything about them or gives them work to do or makes sure they spend a full day at work, then the only person to blame is the supervisors, commander, unit commanding officer etc. No one else.
Just so you know, the Kronos readers used for swiping also require placing your hand on the reader for a scan. They also have CCTV cameras trained on the readers to timestamp and verify scans. It's a pimpy system. Welcome to the world the rest of the city work force has to live with. And by the way, CPDis not the only city department running 24/7.
OT Yes word from "downtown" says that they will promote about 85 Sergeants and 100 Detectives real soon.....Stay tuned
Hey Jodi, you want to cut the FAT literally? Then how about getting rid of all the useless civilians that do absolutely nothing but suck up free air and take up space.
People come in, show their face for a few hours, shuffle papers, utilize the xerox machines for there PT gigs, and collect a nice free pay check. Do something about it!
2/12/2011 10:48:00 AM
Are you kidding me? They order civilians to swipe while the sworn start late and leave early. Talk about part time gigs and side stuff while working. This is a huge double standard to monitor one group and let the other to come and go as they please. Be careful what you wish for.
99% of coppers are late for work every day. Not going to happen.Very had to punch in early if you are not at work. Can not make you punch in and out without you punching out and in for lunch. The city can not have their cake and eat it to. This is the very reason we don't punch in and out now. believe me I did it for 2 years at the post office.
maybe the swiping will make sure sergeants will actually be there for the extr 45 minutes a day they get
Thanks FLOP ur more worried about the mayor's race than helping coppers
call them what u will, FLOP or FOP, but there is nothing more important than the mayors election right now... wake up,
Take it easy tough guys, swiping is not tied to your paycheck, nor will it ever be.
department has tried swiping 3 or 4 times since I have been on job... never enforced more than A month... quit worrying
we need to get some of our guys elected and remind everyone to vote.
Just a thought
2/12/2011 07:57:00 AM
If you knew some of these guys you wouldn't be saying that. Use your head and look at the candidates yourself.
Just because he is a copper doesn't mean he gives a rats ass about you.
Since the Department has tried this Swiping idea 2 or 3 times already unsuccessfully, they are REALLY going to look totally STUPID if they try it again and it doesn't work.
013.dist stone if you happen to run across this please make the appropriate command change in 013. This arrogant piece of garbage lt. is running around like he owns the place. He has no people skills or police skills. There are still some good people working here, get this Prozac out before he destroys 013.
http://cases.justia.com/us-court-of-appeals/F3/422/611/569523/
Everybody has got to read the above. Do you know that she has the child of a former deputy superintendent and she named that child "Michele"? And it caused a big todo at the time for the D/S and his wife and family? You think these payoffs weren't done to protect the D/S? Figure it out. DD has sued twice now, once for Lt and once for Capt. This pisses me off.
This is what really bad bosses do, when things get bad!!!
2/12/2011 04:58:00 PM
sounds more like a Russian thing, pre Reagan era.
"Anonymous said...
Thanks FLOP ur more worried about the mayor's race than helping coppers
2/12/2011 02:01:00 PM
My kid was 6 for 7 at the free throw line last night. Should I blame FOP for thet one miss? Grow up!"
No. It's George Bush's fault.
Does this mean the little fat useless ghetto civilian in the Vice Unit that waddles up and down the hallways harrassing all the sergeants about nonsense has to work a full 8 hours? Oh my GOD, what shall she do??? This means she has to swipe at the M.E.'s (other PT gig) office too? That job can be done in about 15 minutes by one of the office dolls that are hidden up there.
Hey Jodi, you want to cut the FAT literally? Then how about getting rid of all the useless civilians that do absolutely nothing but suck up free air and take up space.
People come in, show their face for a few hours, shuffle papers, utilize the xerox machines for there PT gigs, and collect a nice free pay check. Do something about it!
2/12/2011 10:48:00 AM
Put your name on the CR as the complainant or SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!
You want something done, but you want someone else to do it. Typical!
No guts, no glory...ASSHAT!
Want a laugh and to see how DD got promoted to Capt and received some nice deferred comp money check out:
http://cases.justia.com/us-court-of-appeals/F3/422/611/569523/
I felt like there was no Santa Clause when I was not made merit either - WOW!
Does this mean the little fat useless ghetto civilian in the Vice Unit that waddles up and down the hallways harrassing all the sergeants about nonsense has to work a full 8 hours? Oh my GOD, what shall she do??? This means she has to swipe at the M.E.'s (other PT gig) office too? That job can be done in about 15 minutes by one of the office dolls that are hidden up there.
Hey Jodi, you want to cut the FAT literally? Then how about getting rid of all the useless civilians that do absolutely nothing but suck up free air and take up space.
People come in, show their face for a few hours, shuffle papers, utilize the xerox machines for there PT gigs, and collect a nice free pay check. Do something about it!
2/12/2011 10:48:00 AM
Put your name on the CR as the complainant or SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!
You want something done, but you want someone else to do it. Typical!
No guts, no glory...ASSHAT!
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uh maybe because the vice civilian has a relationship with deputy supt downtown....
'Starks on his way out issued the swipe order, and Jfled canceled the order when he came here.'
Actually it was Charlie Williams.
2/12/2011 05:57:00 PM
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Not true.
Anonymous said...
Want a laugh and to see how DD got promoted to Capt and received some nice deferred comp money check out:
http://cases.justia.com/us-court-of-appeals/F3/422/611/569523/
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Wow. this is unreal. How did the fact that she is one of 11 kids or had child care issues or was getting a divorce matter in the case? She "fell down" when she did not get promoted? Fell down? Are you fucking kidding me? We have the best court system in the country, but juries really do make some fucked up decisions.
2/12/2011 04:01:00 PM
I fell down when I read this appellate decision, fell down laughing. I can make up better bullshit than that, too bad I am so close to retirement. I was always told to study harder. Ha!
To 11:47 on 12Feb2011-
I agree with you. Stone has to go. Who does he think he is? Asking me to do my job? The nerve of that guy.Get to work on time? How dare him. Asking me to do SOMETHING during my tour of duty. Captain Egan never did. And then, to ask that patrolman who hasn't even possessed a mover book in about five years to get one and write a mover once in awhile? What, now I have to write a mover this year? What next? And that stuff about trying to rewrite the car rotation system so we can get the same squad car as much as humanly possible instead of a different car everyday? He ain't foolin me. No sir. And don't tell me about how he went out and bought that new stove to replace the roach infested stove from the civil war that we had in the lockup. I don't want to hear about it. He just wanted to show off his cooking expertise when he puts out that delicious spread every holiday.He's not fooling me. And no, I don't care about his trying to make the station a safer place by lobbying for a buzzer system at the front door so those bent on harming the desk crew can't get in. Who does he think he is caring about us lowly PO's? You are right Stone has to go. I would much prefer that head case that preceeded him come back. I like being yelled at and being treated like a child. I like being able to cut the tension in the air with a knife. Yeah, Stone has to go. When you grow up.
Heard airports will be swiping soon due to a certain sgt, who keeps the early ducks for his friends going on! Pammy Zekman has the foia documents and all the transponder numbers what kind of goof in this day and age would risk his job? Oh and boys and girls not just the sgt you will also be fired/prosecuted stealing time is a felony!
45 min a day for desk sgt and captain will be gone , they never work late , only field lts and beat sgts will receive guarenteed 45 min a day ot
bt sgt and field lt arrive early and stay late for check offs
Anonymous said...
I work in a civilian city department. We've been swiping since at least 2001. Therefore we're not lucky enough to get to leave early without burning time. And haven't been for at least 10 years.
Our department has a TON of overtime. And it has to be APPROVED by a supervisor for us to get paid for it (oh, wait, we DON'T get paid for it). If we don't swipe out until 15 minutes, 30 minutes, an HOUR after our shift ends, it's just on us. We won't get credit for overtime unless a supervisor says "Yes, he/she was actually working."
2/12/2011 08:34:00 AM
Yeah, but you swipe in at a Police Facil;ity near your home, not when you arrive at your place od assignment...
I will be swiping... with a rare earth magnet to the card reader.
2/12/2011 09:12:00 AM
Um, nice try, but the readers are optical, not magnetic. Thanks for playing, though.
I fell down when I read this appellate decision, fell down laughing. I can make up better bullshit than that, too bad I am so close to retirement. I was always told to study harder. Ha!
2/13/2011 04:00:00 AM
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Study harder, but always marry a connected white shirt. EACH time you marry.
Anonymous said...
45 min a day for desk sgt and captain will be gone , they never work late , only field lts and beat sgts will receive guarenteed 45 min a day ot
bt sgt and field lt arrive early and stay late for check offs
Pass a test ass hat.and learn how to read a Contract
OT Yes word from "downtown" says that they will promote about 85 Sergeants and 100 Detectives real soon.....Stay tuned
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If they make any promotions, it will only be to the rank of sergeant... detectives are ASSIGNED.
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maybe the swiping will make sure sergeants will actually be there for the extr 45 minutes a day they get
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Sergeants aren't expected or required to stay for the 45 minutes, which would actually be 30minutes because it's at the rate of time and one-half. That comp time was negotiated in lieu of a pay raise. It was another way for the city to avoid paying monies that were pensionable. In fact, they're not paying it at all because it's comp time, not cash.
007, 009 and HQ start swiping on Valentine's Day.
WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE TACT TEAMS?!
All of those ghost employees and those who like to come late and leave early will have to change their ways.
I hear the Department contacted Ghost Hunters to look into the problem. That episode will air this fall on the SyFy channel. LMAO!
Our department has a TON of overtime. And it has to be APPROVED by a supervisor for us to get paid for it (oh, wait, we DON'T get paid for it). If we don't swipe out until 15 minutes, 30 minutes, an HOUR after our shift ends, it's just on us. We won't get credit for overtime unless a supervisor says "Yes, he/she was actually working."
Getting O.T. approval from a supervisor? HAHAHAHAHAHA! Fat chance. Oh, I can see the O.T. piling up once this starts. BUT, once that happens, the brain trusts downtown will have a fit and demand all unit commanders do something to stop the hemorrhaging.
What will probably happen is that they will simply deny the O.T. and have someone from the next watch take over your job.
They tried that several years ago. Not sure of the official reason as to why they stopped it but I could guess.
maybe the swiping will make sure sergeants will actually be there for the extr 45 minutes a day they get
HAHA! I'd love to see that but some how it would come back to bite us in the ass.
Well, you can say, if you want that detectives are assigned, but this is really no different then any other rank. Some sergeants are given the rank based on test scores and some on merit, same as detectives. The only difference is a sergeant cannot be demoted, a detective can. But, the detective can file a grievance and the city better be ready to justify this as compared to what they do city wide with all detectives. Not an easy thing to do. I bet you cannot name one detective that lost their rank in the last 20 years.
If they make any promotions, it will only be to the rank of sergeant... detectives are ASSIGNED.
easy tough guy...guess you have not made any rank
well another rumor turned to shit!!! I work in 007 and guess what happened today 14 feb 11? You guessed correct no swipe in, no swipe out and no mention of it either.
I'm coming back from furlough this week and I have a question; Is the inmate still running the asylum?
If they make any promotions, it will only be to the rank of sergeant... detectives are ASSIGNED.
easy tough guy...guess you have not made any rank
2/14/2011 11:33:00 AM
Actually, I have made rank. That's why I emphasize that the detective position is not a rank, but an assignment. Officers should be the ones offended by detectives saying they've been promoted. I've had plenty over the years act as though they out rank P.O.s, or even supervisors for that matter.
I'm coming back from furlough this week and I have a question; Is the inmate still running the asylum?
2/14/2011 04:00:00 PM
which one?
Sergeants aren't expected or required to stay for the 45 minutes, which would actually be 30minutes because it's at the rate of time and one-half. That comp time was negotiated in lieu of a pay raise. It was another way for the city to avoid paying monies that were pensionable. In fact, they're not paying it at all because it's comp time, not cash.
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That time was given as a contract issue so that sgts would be compensated for time spent after check-off reviewing and signing reports. Check off is supposed to be at the end of the tour, not 15-20 minutes before as is common practice. So lets say you are working an early car under the old 8.5 hour tour. 0700-1530 should have meant that checkoff was at 1530, not 1510 or 1515 or whatever we could get away with. Following that rule, twe would not get the reports till 1530 and would stay after 1530 reading and signing them. Hence the 30 or now 45 minutes time on the books. And yes, it is a way for the city to dodge more pensionable time.
And considering that we could sell back 200 hrs each year if we chose, that time could be converted to cash. Considering furlos and taking days off we could earn about 150 hrs a year with the extra time. And you can believe this, those 150 hours were dwarfed by the number of slips I held so people could leave early. And I don't give a shit whether you believe that or not. I always felt that giving ducks was one thing I could do for working coppers, and I did it gladly.
So to the jealous people who want to see that extra time taken away via swiping, it won't matter. That time is granted every day that a sgt comes to work, no matter your assignment. Every sgt, every work day. We did not put in slips for it, it's automatic. I let it build up, and when I retired I converted as much of it as I could to deferred comp, and I use the rest to play golf, I bought a car and I take my wife on vacations. In fact I will get sell back checks for two more years
And I am not apologizing for it.
28 yrs and gone
Anonymous said...
Take it easy tough guys, swiping is not tied to your paycheck, nor will it ever be.
2/12/2011 12:49:00 PM
Oh yes it is. The timekeeper can monitor the cada swipes and see who was late. Then the watch commander signs a par form docking your check for the 15 minutes because you were late. It is signed and sent to Finance and you'll never know, because you don't sign it or see it, and then they deduct 15 minutes off of your check. That's the truth. THEN, they can always start writing you up as well. Don't kid yourself. This is not something that can't be done. It is already being done.
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