Wednesday, March 16, 2011

Residency Considered...

...and any changes rejected out of hand. Before being sworn in, even before sitting down with the elected representatives of the Police and Fire Departments. Thank goodness we're ruled by an emperor:
  • Chicago’s 92-year-old residency rule for city workers will apparently live on long after Mayor-elect Rahm Emanuel takes office.

    After reconsidering the requirement at the request of police and fire unions, Emanuel concluded Tuesday that police officers, firefighters and teachers are neighborhood “anchors” Chicago cannot afford to live without.

    “They are more than police and fire. They are anchors in a neighborhood. They’re the Little League coaches, the hockey coaches, the volunteers at the place of worship. They are anchors — not just in their block, but in their community. That’s an investment I’m not ready to turn my back on,” Emanuel said.

    “I’ve heard what they have to say [about wanting to be free to live outside the city, but] I have to represent the whole city and its interests. ... My perspective is how important the individual members — and the group as a total — play in the city’s neighborhoods and anchoring the ... middle-class.”

Kind words - especially as he lays the groundwork for painting us as the greedy bad guys and gals over the burgeoning pension crises sweeping across the city and state. Remember, we've been contributing over 9% of our salaries and the city has refused to alter their share for decades, leading to the current ill health of the funds. But we're the anchors of society?

Nine thousand cops and two thousand firefighters in a city of 2.8 million - a mere 0.4% - are holding the whole thing together. Someone write that down for the next contract negotiations.

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190 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't forget the 30,000 CPS Employee's and the 33,000 City Employees. Add 11,000 CPD and Fire and it becomes a totally different number... 74,000 at least which is darn significant to the life of this city

3/16/2011 12:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry, but if you're a cop and your bullshit detector didn't go off when rahm said he would take residency in consideration, then you should probably find another line of work.

3/16/2011 12:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You need to consider the fallout if they remove the residency requirement. As much as your neighbors may despise you, they'll pack up a move as well, causing property values & the tax base to plummet.

3/16/2011 12:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Someone with big balls needs to rent out a property and store a box on it, like Rahm did. Then let the courts settle it.

3/16/2011 12:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Too late I haven't in this city for 4 years. Come catch me.

3/16/2011 12:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

well its a good thing he threw out that we are the ANCHORS of the communities when it comes time to negotiations and our PENSIONS

3/16/2011 12:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

After Rahm's residency fiasco, how can he tell us where we have to live?

We have to live here, shop at the stores here, send our kids to schools here, pay taxes on our homes here. If so, we must be compensated for it. $3000 a year.

3/16/2011 12:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

we hate you....so please dont leave us!

3/16/2011 12:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

if renting out a house while living in another city was good enough for rahmmie the commie, it should be good enough for me.

3/16/2011 01:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Westside Outside "Do Something" said...

Anyone who was banking on the residency being lifted is an idiot. You might believe a politicians promises when your in your late teens or early 20's, but after going through a few elections you see thru it all. Look at who gets voted in. The popular guy. Not the best or most qualified. The one with the best catch phrase/word,like "change".....

New boss, same as the old boss...

No one wants city workers to get anything like freedom, or raises, or do they care about the safety of our familys? I think not. Did we all forget who pays our salaries? Were we not reminded in an election commercial? Only 9 years more to go, but more like 15 by the time I sell my house.

3/16/2011 01:04:00 AM  
Anonymous tom paine said...

The last line of SCC's thread says it all: save these sentiments for contract negotiation time. Will Rahm and the City remember these thoughts when we have to renegotiate our contract, hopefully in better economic times? we must make sure they remember. . . .

3/16/2011 01:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Remember, Rahm Emmanuel laid the groundwork for a residency victory in the Illinois Supreme Court. If you rent your house out but keep some belongings there, you are a resident just like Rahm. I heard there was a court case pending on this issue.

3/16/2011 01:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did anybody really think the Rahminator would consider changing the residency rule..LOLOLOLOL

How stupid of you..LOLOL

THIS IS CHICAGO PEOPLE...

The land of backroom deals and dirty politics..AKA LIES LIES LIES;

But on the other hand, could you have imagined what The Rahminator would have wanted in return for letting us leave the city? Would have been way too much...

3/16/2011 01:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

.4% who pay the taxes for the other 30% who do not work (that is not all of them, more like 75%, but we are only so much...) Then add our spouses salary and that would be another .2% so that is another 20%. So we contribute 50% of the tax base for the city....

But dont worry, he doesn't have to live here...Only us..

3/16/2011 01:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And this from Mr. Intent himself.

3/16/2011 02:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That didn't take long.

3/16/2011 02:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

***OFF TOPIC***

Does anyone know when sell-back days will be paid out? Thanks.

3/16/2011 02:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a surprise -- did anyone expect a response other than this?

The royal families have their rules and the churls of the kingdom have different ones.

3/16/2011 02:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"They are anchors — not just in their block, but in their community."
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Yes, and real soon I and my pension check will be anchoring a community in eastern Tennessee.

I have spent my last mayoral election in Chicago. I will soon load my anchor up and get the hell out.

That is what sustains me now, the thought of that final drive out of town headed south with Chicago in my rear view mirror.

3/16/2011 03:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This guy is gonna be worse than Shanks. Mark my words.
Hasn't even taken office yet and the fuckery has already started.
Wait til he takes office and starts running roughshod all over our new union president.

3/16/2011 03:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Typical... Do as I say, not as I do.


Daley may be leaving but obviously the holier than thou attitude is deeply entrenched in the mind of the Chicago politician.


Is anybody surprised? REALLY?

3/16/2011 03:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let the "I'm moving to the suburbs and leaving a box in the basement of my rented home" comments begin!

3/16/2011 03:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The public hates us. They will ALL agree with whatever it is that we don't want.

3/16/2011 03:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chicago lost 200,418 residents over the decade. Its population is 2,695,598 [2011] down from 2,896,016 in 2000

3/16/2011 04:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hostages?

3/16/2011 04:23:00 AM  
Blogger hemorrhoid said...

Yeh, you're the anchor alright. You're the safeguard, the palladium and the shield between good and evil!! You're the assurance, the protector and the guardian!

But when it comes to compensation for the sacrifice and risk all of you courageous peacemakers and firefighters make, Rahm Emanuel says: You're a public servant! Be humble and unselfish! Work for less!

Just remember to remind Emanuel what he said when your contract is up for renewal. Otherwise, you'll get no more from him than a cow gets from a bull!

3/16/2011 05:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT:In the Sun Times Today

Rahm Emanuel and Philadelphia’s Charles Ramsey discussing Chicago’s top cop job

3/16/2011 05:20:00 AM  
Anonymous HATER said...

DIDNT EVEN WAIT FOR CONTRACT TIME!

AND HE ISNT EVEN IN OFFICE YET.

SO WHAT IS THE NEXT THING HE PROMISED
OH RIGHT THOSE LITTLE THINGS LIKE THE PENSION!!!

I REALLY THOUGHT HARD ABOUT J-FLEDS RULE, OTHER THAN CUTTING THE NUTS SACK OF THE DEPARTMENT AND MAKING EVERYONE SCARED TO DO POLICE WORK NOT MUCH HAS CHANGED.

MERIT STILL A JOKE
PHONE CALLS FOR UNITS
UNFAIR DISCIPLINE
INEPT EXEMPTS (PENNY,CUELLO)

SO MAY BE WE SHOULD JUST CONSIDER THIS LIKE A PART TIME GIG.
SHOW UP PUT SOME ACTIVITY IN AND NOT THINK ABOUT HOW MUCH THE RULING PARTY SUCKS.

MAY BE WE SHOULD WORRY MORE ABOUT R KIDS LITTLE LEAGUE GAMES AND ARE CLEAN LAWNS.

3/16/2011 05:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Communists don't want men to be free to travel and live where they please. They also don't want free speech, so they invented "political correctness" and put a muzzle on the all too willing media.

The ruling class lives like the rich they claim to want to destroy and they keep their underlings stupid and dependent. Long live the new emperor.

3/16/2011 05:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is our union going to sue the city for our right to live where we want to live? Rahm set the precedent that "intent" is what counts in terms of residency. So my parents live in Chicago. I can have all of my mail and a box full of items in their basement. Doesn't this show my intent of being a resident of Chicago while I live in Skokie? Honestly is anyone actually challenging the residency requirement in court?

3/16/2011 05:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not that it matters significantly, but it's 12,000 cops and 4,000 firefighters and paramedics. Plus the teachers and other city employees. Please, no one will take us seriously if we'r can't even get the numbers correct.

3/16/2011 06:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone who was banking on the residency being lifted is an idiot. You might believe a politicians promises when your in your late teens or early 20's, but after going through a few elections you see thru it all. Look at who gets voted in. The popular guy. Not the best or most qualified. The one with the best catch phrase/word,like "change".....

never say never...
i remember people saying we would never change from the 6-2 schedule.
and presto here it is...4-2

3/16/2011 06:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

***OFF TOPIC***

Does anyone know when sell-back days will be paid out? Thanks.

3/16/2011 02:13:00 AM

____________________________________

01 April Now don't gamble it away!

3/16/2011 06:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't blame mayor-elect Emmanuel. He's not stupid. Why would he want the city to lose police and firefighters and teachers? That would be financial suicide and bad for the communities. He might not have liked making that decision but in the interest of all citizens I don't think he had much choice.

3/16/2011 06:43:00 AM  
Anonymous DaBadCop said...

NOT Someone with big balls needs to rent out a property and store a box on it....a whole BUNCH of cops need to do this. Crime rate is up they can't afford to fire a few thousand cops. We may not be able to strike but they can't afford to train a few thousand in one month time like July. If one guy gets cause another thousand should turn themselves in. :)

3/16/2011 06:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who writes this bullshit for him to spew? Anchors? WTF? I'd like to see HIM be an anchor....toss him right off the boat!

3/16/2011 06:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
After Rahm's residency fiasco, how can he tell us where we have to live?

We have to live here, shop at the stores here, send our kids to schools here, pay taxes on our homes here. If so, we must be compensated for it. $3000 a year.

3/16/2011 12:39:00 AM

I do not shop here only live and work in the city. Anonymous said...
After Rahm's residency fiasco, how can he tell us where we have to live?

We have to live here, shop at the stores here, send our kids to schools here, pay taxes on our homes here. If so, we must be compensated for it. $3000 a year.

3/16/2011 12:39:00 AM

You have a choice where to spend your money and send your kids to school. I never spend a penny in this city other than absolute necessities. I even use suburban libraries and facilities. I will pay the extra fee. Most of my neighbors are city employees and escape to suburbia or have summer homes and rarely are involved in the city.

3/16/2011 07:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes we're held hostage here. Counting down to leave this shit hole. S'ok... Keep Up the same shit. I shop in the suburbs, send my son to school in the suburbs. I do whatever possible to not give a dime to this city I don't have to. Sick & tired of this crap. I completely agree that his 'glowing' comments of our value should be brought back to his attention when contract and pension time comes. Gawd i hate this place, but too close to retirement to leave......

3/16/2011 07:07:00 AM  
Anonymous 016 days said...

Don't worry, Shield' s will hold his feet to the fire...

3/16/2011 07:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr. Emanuel,
Since we are an "investment" in the City, will the City properly invest in our pension fund?

3/16/2011 07:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Remember.... 4 consecutive days is the key.

3/16/2011 07:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hmmmmmmmm.....


Angry voters oust Miami-Dade mayor in special vote

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/16/us-usa-florida-election-result-idUSTRE72F0EC20110316

I'm already thinking recall....

3/16/2011 07:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chicago lost 200,418 residents over the decade. Its population is 2,695,598 [2011] down from 2,896,016 in 2000

3/16/2011 04:11:00 AM

Are you dumb enough to think that there are only 2.6 or 2.8 million in the city???!?!! There are 2.8 illegals living in shitcago!!!!! You thinking this city has less people feeds the story that the city is broke- 500 million in tif money and were are broke- lol- chump

3/16/2011 07:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not all CPS employees have to live in the city. Just a few crime victims/offenders cited in news stories within the last couple of years are an example. Special skills such as math and science teachers get the stay out of the city forever pass. Certain politicians also get the exemption. Where does Sandy Jackson live most of the year/where do her kids go to school?

3/16/2011 07:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
***OFF TOPIC***

Does anyone know when sell-back days will be paid out? Thanks.

3/16/2011 02:13:00 AM

--------------

Answer: 01 Apr 2011

3/16/2011 08:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

MAY BE WE SHOULD WORRY MORE ABOUT R KIDS LITTLE LEAGUE GAMES AND ARE CLEAN LAWNS.

3/16/2011 05:23:00 AM


Maybe you should worry more about your lack of education.

3/16/2011 08:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT:

Petition to recall Quinn here:

http://www.change.org/petitions/petition-to-recall-gov-quinn-for-failure-to-protect-the-fiscal-soundness-of-the-state-of-illinois#?opt_new=t

3/16/2011 08:22:00 AM  
Anonymous 19th ward skeptic said...

This guy is gonna be worse than Shanks. Mark my words.

C'mon, did you expect anything else from this guy? Hey, I didn't vote for him. Too many sheeple did.

3/16/2011 08:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck all the rhamulians. Anyone know anyone who was fired for living outside the city? According to the states supreme court decision they may be entitled to a lot of money. And the best thing is any lower court can't rule against the supreme court.

3/16/2011 08:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This gets me mad. We do so much. But we are worthless when it comes to Pensions and benefits.

3/16/2011 08:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

MSF and TRU DONE!!!!! LOL
Can you say SUPER BID?

From Sneed:

Cop shop . . .

Top tip: While the city waits to see who becomes the city’s next top cop, watch for the CPD’s patrol division, which was dramatically reduced by former top cop Jody Weis, to swell in ranks soon — as well as an increase in cops wearing uniforms while patrolling the streets.

3/16/2011 09:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Then maybe we deserve a hell-of-a-lot-a more respect!

Then we deserve bigger raises!

We deserve first crack at all of the CPS finest cherry picking schools for our kids just like the teachers get!

Then we deserve fair unracially biased hiring and promotions!

Then we deserve to have our pensions fully funded!

Then we deserve better designed stations, computer systems and equipment!

You have awakened a sleeping giant Rahm-boy and filled him with a terrible resolve.

3/16/2011 09:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT

Fitzgerld to become fbi dir?

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/fitzgerald-fbi-118055839.html

3/16/2011 09:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Isn't it painfully odivous that Chicago is a feudal society. You serfs should know better than to question your betters. If one of our Lords wants to beat a man to death, well that is his right. How dare you question the word of the aristocracy or where they reside.

3/16/2011 09:14:00 AM  
Anonymous 5th Floor MASTER said...

Unpack your crap...you're not moving...YOU IDIOT!
You seriously thought he would lift the residency? DUMBASS.
You will stay here and you will love it if not quit and go work at the WalMart or McDonald's.
BTW thanks for the vote!

3/16/2011 09:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We are slaves. Can't leave the plantation.

3/16/2011 09:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WE are the serfs to this city. CTA workers and a great many teachers are somehow excluded form this "club" that the firefighters and police are to behold.

Quite frankly, the politicians know that a huge flight would leave this city and a huge middle class taxpaying sect would render the city into shambles, ala Detroit. ....yet they still want to f*ck with our pension AND they already took away huge amounts of social security benefits that many officers will not get.

3/16/2011 09:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where is Rahm going to send HIS kids to school?...or will they continute to LIVE in DC

just axin

3/16/2011 09:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Isn't it painfully odivous that Chicago is a feudal society. You serfs should know better than to question your betters. If one of our Lords wants to beat a man to death, well that is his right. How dare you question the word of the aristocracy or where they reside.

3/16/2011 09:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He has no choice, we would lose the middle class and property values in neighborhoods like Mt Greenwood would go way down. You would get .30 cents on the dollar for your home.

3/16/2011 09:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a friend who is a Chicago fireman and all he does is bitch about how he has to live in the city and the schools and the taxes and blah, blah, blah. I told him once to stfu. I told him he had a pretty good job, considering he only had to work three days in seven and have a few weeks vacation, not counting furloughs, a pension, insurance, all paid by the tax payers. Same goes for the teachers, who have it pretty good too. Their unions say how many kids get to be in a class. How many hours a day for schooling and how many days of school. And all with a pension, insurance, vacation and tenure. Now police officers have pretty closed the same with maybe a few exceptions. However, all in all a pretty good gig for all. Yes you have to stay ion the city, but I as a tax payer says that this is a very good investment for my community and for yours, too. You ALL knew going into this job position that you would have to live in the city. Nothing was hidden from you about that requirement, so why all the bitching? While you all have these "perks" for working for the city, my wife and I have to work, too. WE pay into our 401k. WE pay for our insurance. WE sent our child to parochial schools, too. WE pay those high taxes to have youse. WE love this city, because of ALL of youse. When you get to retire, then you ALL can decide to leave and make new roots somewhere else. A new generation of city workers will replace you and carry on, because not always about the job, its about the people.

3/16/2011 09:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is really a non-story. No one expected him to change things. Even if he did, there wouldn't be a rush to leave. Anyone owning property here now, would lose A LOT of money selling a house that they bought at the peak of the real estate boom. Financially speaking, it wouldn't be very feasible.
Living outside the the city would be just as expensive if not more expensive. Add to that the added expense and aggravation of commuting and it doesn't really add up.

The newer hires, who aren't financially entrenched yet as property owners, might be able to enjoy a suburban life, but, generally, it's not a real viable option.

3/16/2011 09:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the residency requirement was changed, Rahm would FOREVER be blamed if Chicago turned into Detroit. History would show that the downward spiral for Chicago began when residency was lifted.

3/16/2011 09:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Back stabbing prick

3/16/2011 09:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

o/t: so TH recommended Ramsey.....anyone remember who recommended J-Fed?.....oh, wait...

3/16/2011 09:55:00 AM  
Anonymous IF I WERE RAHM said...

I don't blame the Mayor-elect one bit. I wouldn't give up the residency requirement without HEFTY bargaining on the subject... like maybe in exchange for 20 unpaid furlough days.

Really, its a no-brainer for him, though. Just leave it the way it always has been and its not his fault.

3/16/2011 10:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Same shit - different dickhead. Did you actually think ANYTHING would change?

009 mids

3/16/2011 10:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Quit bitching. Endorsing Chico = Fuck You from Rahm. How did you not see this coming? Rent your apartment in the city and go home to Park Ridge, like people have for the last 90 years.

3/16/2011 10:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well I think it's time we filed a suit in the courts regarding this. Why doesn't the fop get a list together who want on the class action? Hopefully mike will further this cause.

3/16/2011 10:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The payback for being forced to live in the city is a crappy public school, high crime, a 9 per cent plus sales tax, high gas prices and rising property taxes that are equal to many suburban areas. Not to mention you and your family are rubbing elbows with the scum of the earth. I moved out six years ago and although I had to forego a lot of friendships the tradeoff was well worth it.

3/16/2011 10:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Reality said...

74,000 isn't a darn significant number dip shit.

3/16/2011 10:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok, the residency issue was a joke. Lets be honest, the sheeple of this city voted for this carpetbagger, cpd, cfd included. Now is the time to rev up the engines for contract negotiations. We are the anchors of our communities. How bout help with property tax relief? Vouchers for schools, so that we can offset the cost of sending our kids to prívate schools, because cps has yet to fix or reform, the ones in our neighborhoods. How bout funding our pensions, so that we can stay in the city after retirement, so we can remine the pillars of our families and communities? RAHM, you know your temporary and the rottenest thing, is while WE have made an almost lifetime commitment to this city, your're going on to your next money/political venture. Its sad, that we are considered the villians and you the chicago machine savior. I guess its true, history repeats itself. The fall of rome has begun, the new nero is here.

3/16/2011 10:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only reason I would leave is for school. Provide all city workers with a voucher to send kids to the school of their choice. It is the least that should be offered in exchange for having to reside in the city to save the neighborhoods.

3/16/2011 10:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

no surprise, and coming from a goat that finagled the residency laws itself.

3/16/2011 11:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't worry Mike Shields will save the day. Either residency is lifted or we will be compencated for it. And if you vote for Gov. Quinn he won't abolish the death penalty because he believes in it. Politics rock!

3/16/2011 11:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't forget the 30,000 CPS Employee's and the 33,000 City Employees. Add 11,000 CPD and Fire and it becomes a totally different number... 74,000 at least which is darn significant to the life of this city

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2.8 Million in Chicago 74,000... City workers....Thats 2.6 %. Not much of an anchor!!!

3/16/2011 11:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I read this in Sneed's column before the election. "Conservative political pundit Dick Morris, who slices and dices former colleagues he once worked for and admired […] is now using an ice pick on mayoral hopeful Rahm Emanuel. […] In a letter to Rahmstoppers.com, Morris, who once worked with Emanuel at the Clinton White House, claims Emanuel has his eyes on the White House — and characterizes Rahm as “the most ruthless, aggressive, ambitious, radical, take-no-prisoners politician in America.” He also describes Rahm’s style as “Do anything, attack anybody, adopt any pose to get elected.”

Although Morris is a scumbag, his perception of Rahm rings true regarding the residency issue.

3/16/2011 11:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Midnight Guy said...

I remember when working 8 on midnights was fun. Then LB came and screwed everything up. I hear there are openings in Nome Alaska, here is the link http://www.aacop.org/Nome_Alaska_Police_Job.htm . You can tell them all your bs stories up there. They haven't heard the same thing over and over again so they might actually think you are worth it.

3/16/2011 11:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

***OFF TOPIC***

Does anyone know when sell-back days will be paid out? Thanks.

3/16/2011 02:13:00 AM
Today March 16th check surprise!

3/16/2011 11:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wrong
Aviation just hired some more bosses, out of city residents, so they gave them 6 months to move in.
Since they made this exception, they have set a pattern for future hiring.
Now any union leader can argue that residency is meaningless.

3/16/2011 11:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We are "working dogs." Our masters need our protection, but don't let us sleep up on the furniture...

3/16/2011 11:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Remember, Rahm Emmanuel laid the groundwork for a residency victory in the Illinois Supreme Court. If you rent your house out but keep some belongings there, you are a resident just like Rahm. I heard there was a court case pending on this issue.

3/16/2011 01:20:00 AM

One last time.

You are arguing apples vs. oranges vs. bananas vs. pears.

State law, election law, municipal code and department policy are four very different fruits.

Cherry picking bits of them, to suit your purpose of adding, subtracting, altering or disregarding bits of one or more of them or to create a hybrid, is not based in law.

Now chillax. You are stuck here until you quit, get fired, retire, become disabled and are allowed to relocate, leave town horizontally, or they allow you to live outside of the city while still working. The last on the list is the least likely, so enjoy your life. It could end before you ever have your chance to leave Chicago in the rearview mirror.

3/16/2011 11:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I retired after 35 years on the job and for all that time po's hoped that the residency requirement would be lifted. Quit dreaming it will never happen Just idol promises from the politicians, it will never happen. And as far as saying Rahm set up the ground work for a suit on residency, that is ridiculous Its not even the same issue. His was a right to run for office, not work for the city, that wasnt the issue. Its apples and oranges That was an issue with the election board

3/16/2011 11:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fraternal Order of Police Chicago Lodge #7 questionnaire
Answers submitted by Rahm Emanuel
1. Currently, the City of Chicago forbids residency outside the city for employees of the City of
Chicago. Additionally, state law prohibits unions representing Police Officers in municipalities
with a population over 1,000,000 people from arbitrating over the residency requirement. As
Mayor, would you favor allowing Police Officers to negotiate residency requirements and back
legislation allowing for arbitration of those issues?
Before any changes are made, I would want to consider the effect on policing and on the city as a
whole, as well as the individual welfare of police officers. I would certainly discuss this important issue
with the FOP.

I have a hell of a lot more respect for the other mayoral candidates who didn't lie through their teeth and simply said they wouldn't support changes to the residency requirement. I wish only the worst for our future mayor.

3/16/2011 11:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

After Rahm's residency fiasco, how can he tell us where we have to live?

We have to live here, shop at the stores here, send our kids to schools here, pay taxes on our homes here. If so, we must be compensated for it. $3000 a year.

3/16/2011 12:39:00 AM

I don't buy a damned thing in the city, why would you? Granted I live close to the northern border and can be out of the city in less than 2 minutes but I think if you try hard enough you can buy all your supplies and needs without paying any city taxes. Give it a try.
You didn't really think he was gonna lift residency did you?

3/16/2011 11:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually it's a smart move in this Economy and Real Estate Market. We all knew it when we agreed to take the job. CPD Homeowners should be happy about this, it helps keep the value of our homes from further tanking.

3/16/2011 12:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, and real soon I and my pension check will be anchoring a community in eastern Tennessee.

I have spent my last mayoral election in Chicago. I will soon load my anchor up and get the hell out.

That is what sustains me now, the thought of that final drive out of town headed south with Chicago in my rear view mirror.

3/16/2011 03:04:00 AM

One of the attractions for relocating to Tennessee is no tax on the pension. And, East Tennessee is in the Appalachian Mountains and home to the Great Smoky Mountains National Park, but, if it isn't about family or country music, why there?

3/16/2011 12:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

But if I rent my house out, and say that I'm going to live in it again, amend my incom tax forms with my Chicago address on it WAAAYYYY after I've been caught, thats OK.

3/16/2011 12:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chicago lost 200,418 residents over the decade. Its population is 2,695,598 [2011] down from 2,896,016 in 2000

3/16/2011 04:11:00 AM

And I'm happy and proud to say that
I'm one of them.Life is very good south of I-80!

Retired and luvin it.

3/16/2011 12:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chicago remains the only major City with a residency requirement for police officers. Not required in NYC, LA, Houston, Phoenix, etc

There is a bill pending to make residency for Chgo cops a mandatory subject of bargaining. It just doesn't seem to be a priority for the elected leadership of the various police unions

3/16/2011 12:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Remember, Rahm Emmanuel laid the groundwork for a residency victory in the Illinois Supreme Court. If you rent your house out but keep some belongings there, you are a resident just like Rahm. I heard there was a court case pending on this issue.

3/16/2011 01:20:00 AM

The CITY will still fire you for violating the CPD Regulatios AND the CITY Ordinance. Do you have enough money to spend on Attorneys to take this to the Supreme Court ? Stay in the City and live with it.
Heard the City and IAD are now targeting the Tinley Park - Orland Park areas, and KNOW some City Employees are living there. They are investigating for how long, and when they establish this, will fire the City Employee, and present them with a Bill for the amount of their City Salary and earnings, which they will have to pay off before they can collect their Pensions. All the employees Comp Time, Vacation Time, Medical Time, AND Special Employment Earnings will have to also be paid back. This could be hundreds of thousands of dollars for the unfortunate ones caught living outside the City. Also heard the City is offerring a Bounty to whoever squeals and it is verified. The City needs revenue badly, and this would get some for the City. This is why I believe this story is true. Rumor is that they ALready know about at least 50+ CPD,CFD, living out of the City. The bomb will be dropped on them sometime this year. Those car tracking devices are a bitch. Always beware of these Sneaky Pricks when it comes to them getting their hands on your money.

3/16/2011 12:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

4:11 A.M. you are wrong
Chicago has easily gained 200,000 illegals since then. Just yesterday I saw a minivan full of illegals with Arizona plates. Therefore, the population in Chicago has not gone down.

3/16/2011 12:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We are the host on which the parasites nurture & thrive on.
Without us they would / could not survive.
" Anchors of the community "..." property values would plummet "...a crock of shit!
The only thing that would plummet might be the birth rate in DA' community.
Leaving Shitcago this June, so in case I forget, Quinn, Lisa, " New Daley ", rev'runs & assorted aldercrooks...F**K YOU, your extortionist taxes, lies and fuckery to numerous to list. BYE-BYE!

3/16/2011 12:31:00 PM  
Anonymous John Stephens said...

That makes sense when you think about it. What do people do with anchors, and where do they wind up?

3/16/2011 12:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why is this little prick considered such a tough guy? You see him going to all the fire houses but you never hear anything about him visiting the districts. OT: Today's award ceremony was a great day at 35th. Packed house with families and P/O's and not a single civilian on stage with Hillard and of course no J-Fled. Lots of people welcoming the Sup. Back. Proud day to be the police again.

3/16/2011 01:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Teachers don't have to live in the city. All this is about losing tax revenue from city employees. This needs to be challenged and Rham four fingers set the predestines for what may come. Has anyone thought of filling a lawsuit against the city now because of Rhams ruling? Socialism is now the Chicago way.... All the way to the white house.

3/16/2011 01:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Awwww, I'm so sorry you and the other Grabowskis don't get to fuck off to the 'burbs with all of the other mustachioed morons.

3/16/2011 01:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Rahmunist said...

Pick a freaking side already. We are all brutal, racist moronons until we want to live elsewhere, then we are pillars of the community.

We are expendable "go work for a living" leeches, out to steal exorbitant wages and pensions, until we want to live elsewhere, then we are coaches, role models, anchors of the neighborhoods. LOL.

No wonder you start to despise people in this job. Fuckin' hypocrites.

3/16/2011 01:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Rahmunist said...

Wouldn't be bad to save these comments and make the argument at contract time (particularly for arbitration) that this (forced residency) is an economic issue due to higher cost of living imposed and the comments by the mayor-elect that your position as police officers is used to add value to the community, even when off-duty, at a cost to yourselves.

3/16/2011 01:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the FOP needs someone to stand up and put their name on the lawsuit i will do it. Just leave the contact info on here and i will call/text/email immediately to get this process started. I want the option to leave. I might not even leave, but it should be my choice. The thinking that we have to live within certain boundries is archaic. Every single fop lodge that has taken this issue to court has won. Why the fuck isn't our FOP doing this? Is the city really going to crumble if 9000 hated policemen out of 3 million people leave? I don't think anyone will even miss us.

3/16/2011 01:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

oh no, does this mean i cant move to my new place in robbins, oh the inhumanity of it all.

3/16/2011 01:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hear masters moved out on saturday under the cover of darkness so noone would see him carry out his blowup doll of j-fed.

3/16/2011 01:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone hear about a bill Quinn is sponsoring to provide free auto insurance to the poor? Like the cell phones? They were talking about it at the area.

3/16/2011 01:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Teachers are already able to live wherever they want. Passed last year. Did the city implode? No.
Let's get going on this issue. I'm sorry if some of you bungalow owners on the north and south side lose a little value on your home, but this is definitely in the best interest of younger and future police officers. That is, after all, the job of our union. Look out for all the members. Current and future. To appease a thousand coppers now and hurt hundreds of thousands in the future is not in the best interest of moving us forward.

3/16/2011 01:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Rahm doesn't want to play fair, then fuck him. We'll just take it to court. That way we won't have to give up anything in negotiations either. It's actually a win win.

3/16/2011 01:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Telling you where you have to sleep is like telling you who you have to sleep with.


The way most people get caught living outside the city, banking records. That has to be well covered.

And I still wan to know, did Rahm pay Illinois income taxes, on time, when he was in Washington D.C.?

3/16/2011 01:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Pension Watchdog said...

Speaking of politicians going AGAINST the Police...

For some reason, the FOP has endorsed a candidate in the 46th Ward Aldermanic runoff election that is ALL FOR going after the pension funds ("ALL options are on the table"). They endorsed Molly Phelan who used to work for Mike Madigan and who admits to giving money to Joe Berrios' campaign. This woman IS part of the Daley/Madigan/Burke evil cabal and does not shy away from them.

In contrast, James Cappleman, the other candidate, is sympathetic toward the pension funds. Here is what he said in the WTTW/ Carol Marin debate the other day:

James Cappleman:
"The city employees do not pay FICA taxes, they do not get Medicare, so touching their benefits is like touching OUR social security, OUR Medicare, so making a reduction makes a profound loss and if you compare..."

Marin: "So is that saying no, that you would not do that?"

Cappleman: "No, because if you compare what city workers get in their benefits with what WE get in Medicare and Social Security, they are already shortchanged and so to shortchange them even further, it's just not ethical."

I understand that Phelans' grandfather was a cop killed in the line of duty and her father is a former fed prosecutor, but SHE IS NOT a friend of the police OR city employees. I sure would like to hear FOP's explanation for HER endorsement!

The video is at the link below. The pension discussion starts around 5:50 into the conversation.

http://blogs.wttw.com/chicagotonight/
2011/02/28/46th-ward/

3/16/2011 01:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss, with one exception, Raheem will be worse just give him a little time to show you how much worse.

3/16/2011 01:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Mark My Words, said...

OT - Here's a quick & easy way to determine who the NEW machine candidates will be. Just watch who's campaign is getting money from good old Eddie (I'm keeping my security detail) Burke!

Burke PAC Targets Runoff Elections

"Candidates receiving donations so far ... include 17th Ward Ald. Latasha Thomas and 46th Ward candidate Molly Phelan."

http://chicagoist.com/2011/03/14/burke_pac
_targets_runoff_elections.php

3/16/2011 01:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ANCHORS=lets use that next contract!

3/16/2011 02:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Captain Crunch said...

Just like time due....DENIED!!!!!

3/16/2011 02:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

whatever. this job sucks.

3/16/2011 02:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your money for days sold back came today. Since Rahmanator is holding us to the residency rule, how bout some cocessions, like cost ofiving, break on property taxes, and making those teachers who don't live in the city move back. And oh, this too, all those suburban students going to our elite school, pay tuition like they are supposed to!!!!!

3/16/2011 02:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rahm better fix the "Pension" is my concern!

I'm too old for this residency fight! We all knew this coming on the job anyway, otherwise why did you take it in the first place?!!

Residency has been around for 92 years on the books and in fact it probably helped out city folks who probably would not have qualified for the Police Job over suburbanites, just by living in this city!

Pension on the other hand is what we all better focus on! This prick Rahm is evil and is about as bad if not worse than the Governer of Wisconsin!

Pension is the most important fight right now!

I'll worry about my residency on my last day on this job and shithole of a city, when I move to Florida!

Da Pelon

3/16/2011 02:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Take your tongue out of my mouth Im kissing you good bye"

Lost in Fillmore.

what was the last thing the C.O. said to the Tact Sgt?

3/16/2011 02:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't shop here anymore, buy my gas in illinois anymore and when my neighbors get loud and start slapping each other around I get in my car and take off. I don't get paid enough to handle shit off duty.

3/16/2011 02:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only hope is to have the state law changed that prohibits barginning for residency by chicago employees. Obviously, the mayor elect told people what they wanted to hear during the campaign. Now the real Ramn will come out. And, look out!

3/16/2011 03:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We don't need his approval, lets take it to court like the teachers did. The teachers are winning in court.

3/16/2011 03:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They are anchors in a neighborhood. They’re the Little League coaches, the hockey coaches, the volunteers at the place of worship.


BULLSHIT
Tell the truth, they're the only ones who pay the fuckin' taxes!!!

3/16/2011 03:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It would be nice to have the option of residency. Honestly, I'd stay here in the city. kids go to a good catholic school. They have a shit load of good friends. My neighbors are great. we all party in the summer. Life is good.

3/16/2011 03:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Ancient Motorman said...

Votes and taxes, gentlemen. Nothing more.

If you could move out of the city, the politicians lose control over you, your spending and your voting.

It also keeps you beholden to an alderman for you to get ahead, if you so choose that route...

3/16/2011 03:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't forget the 30,000 CPS Employee's and the 33,000 City Employees. Add 11,000 CPD and Fire and it becomes a totally different number... 74,000 at least which is darn significant to the life of this city

3/16/2011 12:14:00 AM

Yeah, but not all of the teachers have to live in this shit hole, and 74,000 is still a drop in the bucket compared to several million.

3/16/2011 04:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry, but if you're a cop and your bullshit detector didn't go off when rahm said he would take residency in consideration, then you should probably find another line of work.

3/16/2011 12:18:00 AM

Wrong. The world doesn't revolve around you and the rest of the police. Your neighbors don't stay because you're there. Do you think they'll move when you sell after retirement? Give it a rest already.

3/16/2011 04:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

.4% who pay the taxes for the other 30% who do not work (that is not all of them, more like 75%, but we are only so much...) Then add our spouses salary and that would be another .2% so that is another 20%. So we contribute 50% of the tax base for the city....

But dont worry, he doesn't have to live here...Only us..

3/16/2011 01:46:00 AM

Sorry, but your math is off. If your salary comes from taxes, you're just paying back in from what you took out. It's not like it came from the private sector. The working people DO pay our salaries.

3/16/2011 04:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

***OFF TOPIC***

Does anyone know when sell-back days will be paid out? Thanks.

3/16/2011 02:13:00 AM


15 April generally.

3/16/2011 04:32:00 PM  
Anonymous ATTN: ALL FOOLS! said...

The Chicago Police Board www.ChicagoPoliceBoard.org today announced that it will be taking applications through April 11th for the next Superintendent of Police.

(That's going to take some really big running shoes to fill! Hahahahahahahahahaha!)

NOTE: The link already appears on the NYPD blog "THEE RANT".

3/16/2011 04:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: Day after Burge goes to prison, Eric Caine, co-defendant of Aaron Patterson, to go free tomorrow after Special States Attorney agrees to drop all charges.

3/16/2011 05:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anchors away!!!!! Of course when ever it suits him the little tyrant.

3/16/2011 05:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What Rahmbo left out is that the City workers are the anchors of the dummycratic party. You don't think he'd let the precinct captains escape do you?

3/16/2011 05:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First people say that Rahm is going to let us move out of the city and you guys bitch that's its just a reason to mess with our pensions. Now that he says we have too stay and you guys complain about that. Then quit move out and find another 80000 a year job with a pension. Seriously guys we have a great job. Life's too short to complain.

3/16/2011 05:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you are going to suck that teat, you better contribute to that teat. It isn't like everyone is making a decent living.

Taxpayer

3/16/2011 05:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Irene H. Brodie, the mayor of south suburban Robbins, has just announced that the Village has hired former Chicago top cop Jody P. Weis as a deputy chief. He will head the Predictive Analysis and Criminal Profiling Unit.

Robbins does not have a residency clause.

3/16/2011 06:01:00 PM  
Anonymous CPS says PE is a Need basis Subject Area? said...

CPS residency Policy has a 'special needs' area. But, why is PE a special needs subject as lines go around the corner at CPS job fairs for PE? Is it because all their coaches/PE teachers live in the suburbs and are drawing $75K paychecks while rolling out the balls to DeShawn, Ernesto, Anais, etc?

Exemptions to the Residency Policy for Special Needs Areas

Newly hired teachers of the CPS for the 2010 - 2011 school year and who are certified/endorsed in subject areas deemed special needs may apply for a waiver to the residency policy, provided they are hired to teach in a special needs area of education. Such individuals must complete and submit applications for exemptions to the residency policy within 31 calendar days of their dates of hire. If granted, exemptions will be valid for three (3) academic years after the employee's date of hire and may be renewed for subsequent three (3) year periods, provided that the employees continue to be employed in a special needs position.

The current areas of education assessed as special needs are:
Special Education Teachers

Mathematics Teachers

Science Teachers

Librarians

Guidance Counselors

School Nurses

Reading Teachers

Bilingual Teachers

Physical Education Teachers

School Psychologists

Speech Pathologists

ROTC

Sign Language Interpreters

Occupational & Physical Therapists

Health Service Nurses

World Language (Exclusively: Chinese, Arabic, Russian, Latin, Farsi)
http://www.cps-humanresources.org/Careers/residency.htm

3/16/2011 06:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can live wherever the fuck I want ...as long as my wife's wedding dress is here

3/16/2011 06:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
***OFF TOPIC***

Does anyone know when sell-back days will be paid out? Thanks.

3/16/2011 02:13:00 AM

Got mine today! (Although the FOP calendar says April 1st). The City must be feeling generous.

3/16/2011 07:05:00 PM  
Blogger Michael said...

I never thought of myself as the anchor of the community--- my neighbor pays taxes just like me and also coaches little league and he is not a cop or city employee--- is rahmbo saying that everyone who is not a cop or firefighter is useless--- just wait until we go to the table next negotiation time, we will be seeking to be paid as anchors of the community the cement that holds the community together....

3/16/2011 07:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck him, FOP take this to court.

3/16/2011 07:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

/2011 08:22:00 AM

19th ward skeptic said...
This guy is gonna be worse than Shanks. Mark my words.

C'mon, did you expect anything else from this guy? Hey, I didn't vote for him. Too many sheeple did.

3/16/2011 08:32:00 AM

We deserve this. City employees did not vote and we lost. Now suffer for the apathy. All hail Rahm

3/16/2011 07:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well I think it's time we filed a suit in the courts regarding this. Why doesn't the fop get a list together who want on the class action? Hopefully mike will further this cause.

go ahead wonder boy, you go and take it to the courts... you can leave me off of it.

3/16/2011 07:44:00 PM  
Anonymous In da Know said...

Anonymous said...
o/t: so TH recommended Ramsey.....anyone remember who recommended J-Fed?.....oh, wait...

3/16/2011 09:55:00 AM

Why yes, his name is Abner Mikva, although I'm uncertain about the spelling of his last name, and a little too tired to look it up for you. Sooooo, what's your point Einstein.

3/16/2011 07:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Haven't you heard SCC?! If we allow a measly .4% of the city's population to live wherever they want then this place would fall into ruins.
Mass exodus, tornadoes, earthquakes, tsunamis, the sky falling, etc. You name it and it'll happen, the friggin second coming of Christ! All this if we gave .4% the option to move, I wonder what that says about the other 99.6% of the people in this city?

P.S. I'd like to thank this city for showing how important we are by giving us such a great raise and for helping out with our pension....sincerely, L'ancre

3/16/2011 07:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Love the job..hate the government said...

So, when I coach that little league team for da community do I get to throw a slip in for it?

On the other hand, other than work and sleep in the city our family does everything in the burbs.

I'm out in a couple of years so it doesn't affect me as much as you younger guys. If you have less than 10 years
you should consider looking at your options outside of Illinois.

3/16/2011 07:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Scc, This is the "big plan" said...

Top tip: While the city waits to see who becomes the city’s next top cop, watch for the CPD’s patrol division, which was dramatically reduced by former top cop Jody Weis, to swell in ranks soon — as well as an increase in cops wearing uniforms while patrolling the streets.

its not msf and tru.. its tac teams bike teams and 06 cars. there will 12 tact officers from each district and one tact sgt from each district going to the area. that will equal 60 officers and they will have 6 ten man teams per area. tac teams will have a more focused mission throughout the area. no more 06 teams, no more bike teams and no more 3 or 4 tact teams per district.. tac guys who are not going to the area will be put back on the watches for the summer. msf and tru will get more officers detailed for the summer to spread teams out in hot districts so patrol can handle the jobs. what this will accomplish I dont know. Its good for patrol but what really will this do? What will tac office be used for? its a nice room in the new districts so will it just go un used? what ever, but this is the idea for whats coming up. Scc, you might want to spread the word about the prospective plan ahead.

3/16/2011 07:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm one of those 200,418 residents who moved the hell away from Chicago to a more pleasant community, far, far, far, far, far away from Illinois and the BS.

3/16/2011 08:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
.4% who pay the taxes for the other 30% who do not work (that is not all of them, more like 75%, but we are only so much...) Then add our spouses salary and that would be another .2% so that is another 20%. So we contribute 50% of the tax base for the city....

But dont worry, he doesn't have to live here...Only us..

3/16/2011 01:46:00 AM

Sorry, but your math is off. If your salary comes from taxes, you're just paying back in from what you took out. It's not like it came from the private sector. The working people DO pay our salaries.

3/16/2011 04:16:00 PM

Sorry but YOUR math is off. Taxpayers DO NOT pay CPD salary. Our salary is generated by city revenue from tickets. Check your tax bill next time you get it. No police included, only Fire and School and other crap.

3/16/2011 08:11:00 PM  
Anonymous WESTSIDE OUTSIDE DO SOME THING said...

Anonymous said...
I have a friend who is a Chicago fireman and all he does is bitch about how he has to live in the city and the schools and the taxes and blah, blah, blah. I told him once to stfu.
Hey, STFU!!! Signed a City Worker.....

3/16/2011 08:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
First people say that Rahm is going to let us move out of the city and you guys bitch that's its just a reason to mess with our pensions. Now that he says we have too stay and you guys complain about that. Then quit move out and find another 80000 a year job with a pension. Seriously guys we have a great job. Life's too short to complain.

3/16/2011 05:43:00 PM

------------------------------
oh shut up- loser. great job for a hippy like you maybe. I guess its beter than best buy, smoking some weed and hey surfs up dude..

3/16/2011 08:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Exempt Promotions: SCC any truth to this?

I have a friend in Rham's camp who said the mayor elect is infuriated with the current police brass. They feel the ranks are too top heavy and way too many unqualified bosses.

I guess a plan is underway to send a bulk of the emempts back to their highest rank attained.
Their positions will be replaced by a private sector police contractor. Their employees will have to meet certain qualifications ie...retired commander from another agency etc...

This is being done to change the face of the department from the Top Down approach. It will also lead to a more transparent promotional process for future bosses because these outsiders will conduct the promotional process and most won't know many people to leak the test answers out too. Also they will not be able to wear a CPD uniform unless they worked for CPD at one time or another as a sworn officer

A special ordiance has been drafted and is waiting approval of city hall.

I got to say that I agree with this.

Whats everyone else's take?

3/16/2011 08:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

3/16/2011 09:31:00 AM

Why don't you and your wife STFU?You love the city...I am happy for you, but having been on this job long I have seen the worst of what this city offers. What does it tell you when the first responders want to flee? As previously stated, they can rag on the police, and they hate us so...but you want us to stay. The city has changed the rules on us over the years, so this BS about we knew what we signed up for is nonsense. My pension was secure and benefits paid..now its all in jeopardy. SO if you and your wife want to stay here go ahead, but remember you are not he only one that pays taxes. SO FU

3/16/2011 08:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
First people say that Rahm is going to let us move out of the city and you guys bitch that's its just a reason to mess with our pensions. Now that he says we have too stay and you guys complain about that. Then quit move out and find another 80000 a year job with a pension. Seriously guys we have a great job. Life's too short to complain.

3/16/2011 05:43:

Hey you, STFU! Mr 2 years on the job and already trying to suck off the new Mayor.... Pathetic!

3/16/2011 08:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope the Fireman aren't buying Rahms buddy,buddy act. He's doing this until after the runofff elections and then plans on laying off 300 Fireman...but offering them a spot in Police Academy. Vote ANY candidate not aligned with this prick. Do your homework!

3/16/2011 08:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

IT never ends does it????? same old song and dance different face. i thought things would get better. so much for that. only 20 more miserable years of paying taxes to the daley machine... that has to be alot of. money

3/16/2011 09:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well the newest little fuck of a Mayor admits to the lie before ever taking office.

Evidentely, he NEVER intended for there to be any discussion on allowing city employees to live outside the city limits, thus the recent comment on the matter. He did fourtunately, unintentionally set Residency precidence for non-residencey-residency.

How ironic. City employees, especially Cops, are compelled to pay property and in many cases other taxes, to a city that underfunds their pension and gives there pension monies to connected family members with little or no investment experience.

These same people want to take away our 2nd Amendment rights while they are escorted with armed protection at our expense.

Tread lightly masters of fuckery.

When the blow-back finally begins, you're gonna need that taxpayer funded protection.

3/16/2011 09:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I have a friend who is a Chicago fireman...."

First of all, STFU. Second, the point here, dumbass, is that while it's true that we all knew about the 92 year old residency reqirement when we signed up, that doesn't mean we should not have a right to request a change in it. What was good 92 YEARS ago, doesn't always translate into what's best today.
If you think you're so great because you pay for private school and your 401k and blah blah blah, well shame on you for paying for all of the shit here when you could have had better schools, lower taxes, a bigger house etc in the suburbs. Don't be mad at us because you're too stupid to leave. And why do you feel the need to identify yourself as a "taxpayer"? We pay taxes too, dummy. How much of your money do you contribute to YOUR salary?
And every last one of us has contributed to our pensions without fail, and the corrupt politicians that YOUR people elected, pissed our investments away.
So, if you think it's sooooo damned important that the police live here, then maybe you should quit with the "I am a taxpayer" bullshit and start offering up a little gratitude for the work that police, fire and teachers do....because Lord knows that ignorant, whiny, scared little know-it-all types like yourself would NEVER be able to do the jobs that all of us do. In fact, why don't you tell YOUR politicians to fire us all. Then the city can hire 13,000 or so rent-a-cops that would otherwise be patrolling the shopping malls. I will gladly pull up my lawn chair right to the edge of this hell hole of a city and watch it burn before I drive away.

3/16/2011 09:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to 9:13 am... "youse" is NOT a word, get your green card and invest some of your money in an English class before you leave another post.

3/16/2011 09:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Herman Munster said...

Would someone please tell me what a "Youse" is ? ? ?

3/16/2011 09:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We deserve this. City employees did not vote and we lost. Now suffer for the apathy. All hail Rahm

3/16/2011 07:40:00 PM

Speaking for yourself? Because I sure as hell voted. And I have voted IN EVERY ELECTION since I turned eighteen.

My friends vote. My family votes.

Face it; we were outnumbered by clueless yups who bought into the flash and cash.

3/16/2011 09:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Go to the (unauthorized) NYPD blog site "THEE RANT" in SCC's right column on the blue page.

Some amusing responses under "CHICAGO PD POLICE COMMISSIONER APPLICATION" thread. It's obvious that after a couple of former NYPD bosses unsuccessfully applied as the three "finalists" (i.e., "shills" in the "nationwide search"), the NYPD has got our number as the most politically corrupt major city in the nation.

If Bratton or Timoney applied, get out the straitjackets. They're hip--ain't no way! Personally, I would NOT take the job, even for a mil per annum. Suffice to say while qualified, I have honor and integrity.

If you disagree, bring along your knee pads and lobster bib for mayor-elect Emanuel. You will have sold your soul, ho!

3/16/2011 09:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All you dumb asses that bought this line of crap, ran out & voted for him!!! Now were all stuck with him!! Thanks!!!!

3/16/2011 09:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you are going to suck that teat, you better contribute to that teat. It isn't like everyone is making a decent living.

Taxpayer

3/16/2011 05:46:00 PM

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I WORK for that paycheck. I'm not sucking anybody's anything. I don't owe anybody anything beyond that. If I choose to coach, or tutor, or plant a garden, I do it out of CHOICE, not because I owe it to the government that happens to employ me.

Damn, with your so-called 'reasoning', in your off-hours, YOU had better be swabbing the alleys in the neighborhood where YOU work.

And let's not forget, I PAY TAXES, TOO.

3/16/2011 09:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

3/16/2011 06:17:00 PM

Basically everything EXCEPT English teachers. Not surprising...

3/16/2011 10:00:00 PM  
Anonymous SCC Fan said...

MASTERS MASTERS MASTERS is gone!

"Reassigned" to City Hall. He's been on unpaid furlough days this week, office is empty and he's not coming back.

Good riddance.

3/16/2011 10:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We're doomed says:

They need us here to pay taxes for all the illegal anchor babies who take advantage of our free schools, free breakfasts, free lunches, free after care, free school supplies, free laptops, etc. while illegal mom and dad get paid cash, pay no SS, no taxes, where they then send a portion of the US currency back to Mexico to help more come over the border illegally to start it all over again.
Have you been to a social security office lately????almost all customers speak a different language other than English and are coming in for some type of free handout via their anchor kids. They haven't even contributed to the system.

3/16/2011 10:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you are going to suck that teat, you better contribute to that teat. It isn't like everyone is making a decent living.

Taxpayer
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Go fuck yourself, taxpayer. We contribute more than your sorry ass ever will. How many of your co-workers were killed last year? Yeah, I didn't think so. You can now shut the fuck up.

Where we live doesn't have any impact on the job we do. It's assholes like you who fall for the politicians' control tactics bullshit that keep us here.

3/16/2011 10:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the residency requirement was changed, Rahm would FOREVER be blamed if Chicago turned into Detroit. History would show that the downward spiral for Chicago began when residency was lifted.

3/16/2011 09:38:00 AM

You are so, so stupid. You seem to really believe that city workers have anything meaningful to do with this city and it shows how little you know.

Big money runs this city. City workers aren't a small pimple on a big ass. Get over yourself already. You think in terms of pennies while they steal millions all around you. Wake the fuck up and look at the way things really are already.

Do you think that CEO's of major corporations have a stake in this city? Maybe they should be forced to live here too. They make a living in Chicago, right? If they're pulling out, they should live here and be anchors of the communities, right?

Forcing city workers to live here is nothing more than political control. If they can dictate where a man lives in a free country, they have a lot of control over you. And you dumb asses, knowing residency has been shot down in courts across the land, still act like you want them to control you.

Then again, you're too dumb to even register to vote, so no big surprise there. You get what you deserve because you act like slaves.

3/16/2011 11:12:00 PM  
Blogger Toorop said...

That is a load of shit. Why aren't the rest of the community members taking part in their community? Why are cops and firefighters as well as the other city workers the only ones taking part?

Sounds like a load of shit. What he is really saying is that he doesn't want to lose the tax money as the productive members of the city leave the sinking ship.

3/16/2011 11:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rahm is a politician first which makes him a professional liar telling the masses what they want to hear and then doing what he wants

3/16/2011 11:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

*($*(#& U. I'm renting my house out. And moving to the burbs.

3/16/2011 11:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

cps doesn't have to live in the city nor does the cta. get your facts straight before u open your suck

3/16/2011 11:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Next contract? haha. are u serious. We will get nothing. maybe 1% a year if that. RHAM will say i'm not giving the police/fire furlough days so i'm not going to approve a raise.

3/17/2011 12:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Youse is a word. Just ask anyone from the Port. So is dees dem and dose.

3/17/2011 12:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Sorry, but your math is off. If your salary comes from taxes, you're just paying back in from what you took out. It's not like it came from the private sector. The working people DO pay our salaries."


WE pay our salaries, too. By your logic we're self-employed.

3/17/2011 12:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you think you're so great because you pay for private school and your 401k and blah blah blah, well shame on you for paying for all of the shit here when you could have had better schools, lower taxes, a bigger house etc in the suburbs.

Any suburb worth living in has taxes as high, and probably higher than here, then they charge for water, sanitation, etc, on top of your taxes; schools can be better if your lucky. Probably the only plus.

3/17/2011 01:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

cps doesn't have to live in the city nor does the cta. get your facts straight before u open your suck

3/16/2011 11:57:00 PM
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Um, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. From the CPS Human Resources pages, regarding hiring procedures:

"On August 22, 2001, the Board rescinded the residency policy... and adopted its current residency policy 01-0822-PO2, which
requires all full-time employees hired on or after November 20, 1996 to be actual residents of the City of Chicago..."

There are exemptions available for specific specialties, but the rule is they HAVE to live in the City.

3/17/2011 01:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ooo hell yes , i like my cops to be right down the block, so sure we back u in more pay !!!!

3/17/2011 02:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking for yourself? Because I sure as hell voted. And I have voted IN EVERY ELECTION since I turned eighteen.

My friends vote. My family votes.

Face it; we were outnumbered by clueless yups who bought into the flash and cash.

3/16/2011 09:43:00 PM

Glad you vote, but you were the minority on your department. Less than a quarter of the cops are even registered to vote. Of those few that are, how many came out to vote for a new mayor? Apathy is killing us.

3/17/2011 05:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Speaking for yourself? Because I sure as hell voted. And I have voted IN EVERY ELECTION since I turned eighteen.

My friends vote. My family votes.

Face it; we were outnumbered by clueless yups who bought into the flash and cash.

3/16/2011 09:43:00 PM

Glad you vote, but you were the minority on your department. Less than a quarter of the cops are even registered to vote. Of those few that are, how many came out to vote for a new mayor? Apathy is killing us.

3/17/2011 05:39:00 AM


Vote?

Elections in Chicago are too important to be trusted to the voters. The results are preordained.

A new police superintendent will be named after world wide search and competitive exam followed by the naming of the guy chosen already.

3/17/2011 05:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Glad you vote, but you were the minority on your department. Less than a quarter of the cops are even registered to vote. Of those few that are, how many came out to vote for a new mayor? Apathy is killing us.

3/17/2011 05:39:00 AM

Well, we've gone from 'half the cops vote' to 'one-third of the cops vote' to 'a quarter of the cops vote'.

I'm sure you pulled the employment lists, compared them to the voter rolls and then came up with the number, right? Or, more likely, pulled some pie in the sky, drama-number out of your - uh - head.

3/17/2011 06:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well at least he is keeping up with the standard of lies....

3/17/2011 07:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
o/t: so TH recommended Ramsey.....anyone remember who recommended J-Fed?.....oh, wait...

3/16/2011 09:55:00 AM

Why yes, his name is Abner Mikva, although I'm uncertain about the spelling of his last name, and a little too tired to look it up for you. Sooooo, what's your point Einstein.

3/16/2011 07:46:00 PM

Maybe the point, asshat, is that Mikva is an anti-American p.o.s

In April 1975, the Communist Party controlled Chicago Peace Council convened a “Nationall conference for a drastic cutback in military spending” in Chicago"

Speakers at the conference included Richard Criley and Norman Roth of the Communist Party and the Chicago Committee to Defend the Bill of Rights, Fr. Gerard Grant and Frank Rosen (also “Committee” members) , Ed Sadlowski of the United Steel Workers Union and later Democratic Socialists of America and of course Congressman Abner Mikva.

3/17/2011 09:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So is dees dem and dose.

3/17/2011 12:21:00 AM




an' dat, an' da udder.

3/17/2011 02:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm sure you pulled the employment lists, compared them to the voter rolls and then came up with the number, right? Or, more likely, pulled some pie in the sky, drama-number out of your - uh - head.

3/17/2011 06:08:00 AM

Check with FOP. They have the statistic at 23% of FOP members registered to vote.

Now go get your fucking shine box.

3/17/2011 03:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Thinking like a shithead said...

hey smart ass, I'm correct...if you were hired before 11-20-96 you're grandfatherd and don't have to live in the city, like I posted. Only the people deemed special need areas can live outside the city now...maybe, you should get away from the shitheads as you're starting to read, think, copmprehend, and type like them......the residency requirement was rescinded a few times, but, ultimately its what I posted above


response to:

cta. get your facts straight before u open your suck

3/16/2011 11:57:00 PM
.
Um, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. From the CPS Human Resources pages, regarding hiring procedures:

"On August 22, 2001, the Board rescinded the residency policy... and adopted its current residency policy 01-0822-PO2, which
requires all full-time employees hired on or after November 20, 1996 to be actual residents of the City of Chicago..."

There are exemptions available for specific specialties, but the rule is they HAVE to live in the City.

3/17/2011 06:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Someone with big balls needs to rent out a property and store a box on it, like Rahm did. Then let the courts settle it.

3/16/2011 12:28:00 AM

Bwahahahahaha...
Stop it your killing me...
Bwahahahahaha...
The Cook county courts?...
hahahahaha. !

3/17/2011 08:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

cps doesn't have to live in the city nor does the cta. get your facts straight before u open your suck

3/16/2011 11:57:00 PM
.
Um, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. From the CPS Human Resources pages, regarding hiring procedures:

"On August 22, 2001, the Board rescinded the residency policy... and adopted its current residency policy 01-0822-PO2, which
requires all full-time employees hired on or after November 20, 1996 to be actual residents of the City of Chicago..."

There are exemptions available for specific specialties, but the rule is they HAVE to live in the City.

___________________________________

I know a son of a friend who just started with CTA 2 1/2 years ago and guess what... he lives in Melrose park with my friend under their roof. so thats BS !! they keep a chicago adress and actually live in a suburb... crock of shit.. oh and the kid is only 25... go figure !!

3/18/2011 01:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And more Bridgeport vocabulay: brudder, mudder, fodder, and pass the budder! And gimme tree of dem

3/18/2011 09:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

is anyone reallly surprised..? comeon folks..he said he'd visit the issue when he was runiing to placate the us coppers into voting for him and to get the FLOP backing. we placed our bets..we went with chico...guess who one..? its political payback...we all would have done the same if we were running..ohhhh didnt wanna back me and NOW u want a prize>>? GFY.! its called politics

3/18/2011 12:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

3/16/2011 09:31:00 AM

Hey dumbass, that right u. U at least have the ability to move out whenever u want to, if u were smart that would be soon. But we have no choice. Yes we knew about this when we took the job. But we were also told we d have a pension, free health back then. Now they want to change that. Yes u have to pay into a 401k, at whatever rate u want to put in. Sometimes the comp matches u. But at least u know where that money is . We inturn have to put in 10% everytime and pray that after we retire our money will be there.So maybe u should stfu

3/18/2011 04:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Keep the residency rule, just make sure our pensions are funded

3/21/2011 08:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How many private corporations provide services for the city for millions of dollars that are based in the suburbs and/or, out of state. I would like to that report. No residency requirement there!

8/19/2011 01:01:00 PM  

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