Shields' First Move
A good first move. A safe move, but a good move nonetheless:
- New Fraternal Order of Police President Michael Shields hopes to press Mayor-elect Rahm Emanuel to protect police officers’ pensions and “hold his feet to the fire” on a campaign pledge to hire more cops.
Shields, 33, said he collected 54 percent of the vote in balloting among current and retired officers to take over as head of the police union. He beat four other candidates in voting announced Friday.
Shields also said he hopes to meet with Emanuel soon to discuss qualifications for the next police superintendent.
It can't hurt to keep Rahm's promises on the front burner. It also sounds sensible to want a voice in who the next superintendent is. After all, we've got to work with that person for the next four or more years. There's going to be plenty of opportunities shortly to lob bombs and brickbats at the political order seeing as how Rahm is (hopefully) going to upset the apple cart.
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posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
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Mike will do more good for the FOP membership in his first year than his predecessors have done in their last two terms (and I'm being generous).
I just hope the remaining cast from the Citywide Team that was lucky enough to escape the chopping block quickly learn that their stagnant way of doing things is about to change. Unlike Donahue, Mike has the drive, determination, education and energy to get things done efficiently and correctly. And the rest of the crew will have to step-up their game in order to keep up...or face very real consequences like they would for underperforming in the private sector.
I can see the CW leftovers not wanting to play ball with a "kid that doesn't know shit"...(Aguilar's own words at many of his roll call visits). Also, the CW leftovers are gonna be none too happy when the audits start (my understanding is that there was A LOT of buzz about the findings of such inquires on Friday while the election process wore on).
Either way, we all look forward to real results from Mike. And more importantly, we look forward to being informed and updated ALONG THE WAY as things that affect the membership are discussed, lobbied for, etcetera. Mike Shields has inspired me to start attending FOP meetings again...I'll see the "new" regime come April, but I'll definitely be at March's meeting for Donahue's farewell speech.
Rahm already has picked the new SUP.
It is a done deal and nothing the FOP says will have any impact whatsoever on who gets the job!
Telling the mayor elect you;re going to hold "his feet to the fire" over hiring is a good move?
Boy would I like to be in the room when Rahm says GFY KID, & Shields goes running out w/ his tail between his legs. If ignorance & arrogance is setting a tone,we're in deep shit.
Rahm is going to eat this neophite alive then shit him out in chunks. I can't believe we have a union president that it 33 years old and has just made ten years. What were you people thinking? And Gorman, you must be kidding me. I've never been more concerned about the future of the FOP in my life.
The role of the FOP in the selection process would be an amazing victory for all of us. Consider that it wasn't until last week that Weiss discussed his controversial decision to wear a CPD uniform. I heard for the first time Mr. Weiss stating that he had discussed the matter with the FOP President, when he was first appointed and Mark told him it was alright. I believe that if this had been Shields he would have admitted it and stood behind his counsel to the Supt. These differences in style will define the new FOP administration.
That's the smartest thing I heard telling the mayor who we want. If the mayor wants our support for the Superintendent he better lesson. The past Union leaders and all other unions Sgt, lts and Capt should give imput.
Telling the mayor elect you;re going to hold "his feet to the fire" over hiring is a good move?
Boy would I like to be in the room when Rahm says GFY KID, & Shields goes running out w/ his tail between his legs. If ignorance & arrogance is setting a tone,we're in deep shit.
3/07/2011 01:21:00 AM
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Kinda reminds me of a young Rahm.
He did the same screaming ideals at the pension board in the beginning crying foul and audit and corruption. But when threatened with a law suit the kid went running home to daddy! And thats fact not FICTION! Rahm has already stated to who ever asks he wants a new SUPER and school CEO by time he's swore in in May. So if the crystal ball unit will tell us he has already picked his SUPER without any input from the POLICE BOARD or anyone else but the KING so KID take your ball and go home the big boys are playing now!
thats pretty funny... like he really gives a fuck what shields has to say
Man, some of you people are so desperate to get the feeling that you actually control something that you never will you'll elect a friggin kid with "10" years, of which how many were spent being on the losing side of all pension decisions, to take over the largest fop union in the country and then you encourage him to say even more stupid shit in the media that's going to end up making us look like fools.
This "kid" IS a kid with no real time on this job or in life. He's got a smart mouth and in the end he'll cause this union to dissolve into nothing while he screams how unfair politics are. Enjoy the first few moments kids, because he's gonna get played by Emanuel and the state legislature like a cheap harp.
Bella, Get over it, you lost. Let's see how quick he retires now since he'd have to work under the contracts he worked on.
First words out of his mouth at roll call, "Don't worry, the pension is fine." WTF idiot.
And don't be suprised when Shields move some CW guys around. The president has a lot more power then you think. Look at Capirelli(sp) getting removed by Donahue and the endorsement of Lisa Madigan against the recommendation of the committee.
With only 10 years service, Shields will have to live with this contract like the rest of us and that's great news.
Rahm is going to have this kid for a snack.
I say the fop president should get no more than commanders pay and the vp's captains pay. The savings are put towards job retraining for guys like Cozzi and such.
That would be leadership.
That's the smartest thing I heard telling the mayor who we want. If the mayor wants our support for the Superintendent he better lesson. The past Union leaders and all other unions Sgt, lts and Capt should give imput.
3/07/2011 04:20:00 AM
How many times do you people need to be told 'DON'T BLOG WHILE DRUNK?'
Hey Citywide losers, stop spreading poison on this blog! It's obvious which posts are yours.
this is your union also and the majority voted to have mike shields as the president. like him or not, we ALL need to stand behind mike and support him and the FOP elected officials. we are in for some unprecedented times concerning labor rights, pension law changes, addressing the medical roll abuse and other hot topics.
personally, I would not want to be in mike's shoes now. there are those who do nothing but bitch and mother-fuck each other on these blogs and give absurd advice from A to Z.
I'm suggesting to those, attend the monthly meetings and be have your voice heard.
SO WHO WOULD MIKEY PICK?
HAS HE WORKED WITH THAT MANY EXEMPTS WITH ALL HIS TIME ON THE JOB?
I WOULD TAKE HIS PICK WITH A GRAIN OF SALT. RAHM WILL LISTEN TO MIKE TO SEE HIS ANGLE AND USE IT AGAINST HIM.
UNLESS SHIELDS OFFERS SOMETHING LIKE A GIVE BACK ON THE CONTRACT RAHM WILL HORSE TRADE.
Who is this knuckle head who keeps talking about Shields being eaten alive by the City? I have not talked to ONE Copper on this job who thinks that the City Wide Team did not totally screw up this current contract, and do little or nothing or most of our other issues.. We've all been eaten alive for to long by our own FOP!! More of the same doesn't work for a least most of us....
WOW! People need to start inventorying the crack instead of smoking it. Rham has been dealing with experienced international negotiaters. Will eat Shields alive. Just another hairgel, too much college and not enough kindergarten!
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Telling the mayor elect you;re going to hold "his feet to the fire" over hiring is a good move?
Boy would I like to be in the room when Rahm says GFY KID, & Shields goes running out w/ his tail between his legs. If ignorance & arrogance is setting a tone,we're in deep shit.
3/07/2011 01:21:00 AM
Mike needs to learn how to be humble and diplomatic. Sure it makes headlines to talk shit and be direct. But good leaders are persuasive, diplomatic, humble, etc...
And when there is an opening for a District Commander all the officers in the District should have a voice in the decision! Give me a break, since when do the workers pick the boss. Generation X?
All the nay sayers talking about what Rahm is going to do to Mike. Rahm's a politician and is going to play nice, but still do whatever he wants. All these big mouths should think about what all the past presidents did (rolled over and played dead). At least Mike is speaking up something no one else was doing. All you sh!t talkers GFY !!!!!!!!
Boy would I like to be in the room when Rahm says GFY KID, & Shields goes running out w/ his tail between his legs. If ignorance & arrogance is setting a tone,we're in deep shit.
3/07/2011 01:21:00 AM
Rahm is going to eat this neophite alive then shit him out in chunks. I can't believe we have a union president that it 33 years old and has just made ten years. What were you people thinking? And Gorman, you must be kidding me. I've never been more concerned about the future of the FOP in my life.
3/07/2011 01:23:00 AM
--Come on dude, say what you want to say in one post. Don't try to make it look like everyone is against Shields, because most are not.
Give this guy a chance! Just because he is 33 and ten yrs on, shouldnt set a direction for which our union is headed. Its all about the game and what you bring to the table.Its a new day, so lets get with the program, and stand behind this guy. btw i have 18 yrs on and 25 yrs business experience.
SCC:
There was a Chicago Breaking News story over the weekend (briefly and then it was gone) stating that Commander Trahanas had "stepped down" to captain.
I hope this young guy restores the FOP to it's former glory, pushes a voter registration agenda and help the rank and file regain the muscle it used to have. It's time for everyone to wake up from the nap now.
---not a cop
That's the problem...Mike will not kiss and wait to be told what to do. Time to change they way these goofs do business at cityhall!
HOLDING RAHMBOS FEET TO THE FIRE...
This is going to be great...
Arrogance will get us everywhere I'm sure..
Public opinion is against us! Unions are crumbling! And we're going to hold the mayor's feet to the fire?
I know, Lets march on city hall on the day Rahmbo is sworn in! Im sure he will be shivering in his shoes!
What were you goofs thinking? Hey! All you kiddies that voted for the brat! Spongebob is on at 4pm today..Just letting you know.
Anonymous said...
Rahm is going to eat this neophite alive then shit him out in chunks. I can't believe we have a union president that it 33 years old and has just made ten years. What were you people thinking? And Gorman, you must be kidding me. I've never been more concerned about the future of the FOP in my life.
3/07/2011 01:23:00 AM
Ya it would be nuch better to have some miserable rummy with 30 plus years on and is still as big an idiot as he was his first day on the job.
I want to know what the new mayor intends to do about gun control. All the mayoral candidates were anti-gun, but all the aldermen are allowed to CARRY firearms in the city of Chicago with no training or oversight.
I believe firmly in gun control when it comes to aldermen, former mayors and the politicians who are so vocally anti-gun in public.
Is this how it will be for Mike as FOP President, every word scrutinized (perhaps you say scrootened) for intent and effect on city leaders? His every sentence, the volume and inflection all subject to criticism from the peanut gallery?
Jesus, if he farts at an inopportune time he will get lambasted, (33 year old punk kid can't even hold his fart! Ha ha ha!) and motherfucked to death. And he has to contend with 5, FIVE!, of CW's best and brightest.
Not a job I would want, I don't care what the goddamn pay is. In this economy, in this political climate with his every word and move subject to the harshest of critics, no fucking way!
Good luck Mike. You will need it.
City of chg water departments direct deposit didn't go through today. Wtf? How bout u guys?
Its a faint.
Shields should talk to Rahm about that crazy idea of replacing desk officers with cadets. He should remind Rahm that there are bidded desk spots under the contract.
I heard the Fire Department hired a Public Relations spokesperson and is holding a press conference to explain the controversy over the pension funding. The idea is to explain how we have funded it and the City has not put their share in. They will explain how we are not like the Wisconsin unions.
Ummm. Can we get in on that? Please don't bring up Pat Camden. He is a nice guy and was good at what he did, but we need a P.R. firm. They had professionals do a lot of damage to our reputation and we need some help fixing it. No, make that a lot of help.
Good job Mike.
I did not vote for mike shields but now that he is in I really hope that he does well for us and doesn't end up hurting us because of his inexperience. Anyway good luck Mike and do what you promised you would
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is the city busted??
i didn't get my paycheck deposited in my account today.
today 3-7-11 is payday for alot of city workers.
where the fuck is my money??
We all know the new sup has already been chosen but its a great move for Shields to step up and voice our opinion. We have needed someone who won't just roll over and be the city's yes man like Donahue was. Even if its a done deal.
For all those people out there (old CWT supporters) who are so negative and vicious towards our new FOP president,STFU, you lost,get over it. I for one have faith in this new team!
Mike I hope you get along with Ron Huberman, the next CPD Superintendent
Good Luck luck Mike, we believe you and your team will fight for us and always have in mind what is important, fair and just.
Lets hope we can get a COLA raise at minimum our next contract
Good to see some new blood at FOP.
An old timer retired.
What happened to Donahue?
There's a rumor (True or Not?) I heard he got a sweet spot on the McPier Board from Shortshanks just as promised. Just sit there, collect the checks, the perks and in a few years another fat pension.
um, the mayor WON'T LISTEN TO FOP BECAUSE FOP MEMBERS DON'T VOTE. The mayor has nothing to gain from us, so we don't exist to him. It's our own fault.
What's with all the condecsending crap? Calling Shields a kid and Rahm will eat him alive. Yes, Rahm is fucking don corleone. If you listen to some you think Rahm is 100 feet tall. He's a politican. He never lead men in combat. He never chased a man with a gun. HE DOESNT WALK ON WATER.
Shields stopped Luberman from cashing in on our pension. That alone is more then the FOP has done in decades. MD laid down and kept quite when he should of spoke up and spoke up when it didn't matter anymore.
United we stand. Daley caused us to turn on ourselves. Shields is one of ours. Lets stand behind him and if anyone undermines him then you would be a trader.
I know Mike and he has balls he is not going to allow the money grabbing that happened to our funds.Previous Presidents did this job with blinders on.
From the Scum Times:
The ex-con who was convicted in the 1970s shooting of two police officers says he can see how some people might not like it that the city puts felons on the payroll.
“A lot of people feel they went to college, don’t have a record and are more entitled to a job,” says the man, who was convicted of attempted murder. “But I paid my debt to society. I am giving back to society, and I value my job with the city. My supervisors tell me I am an excellent employee. The city has invested hundreds of thousands of dollars to educate me to do my job. I am truly grateful.”
He was 17 when an officer tried to question him and an older man after they were seen hanging around a gas station on the West Side in 1973. The officer got shot in the thigh in the ensuing confrontation, and a second officer was shot in the jaw. Both survived.
Come on Secondcity! This is an issue you should address, I pay nearly 5K for property taxes that go toward the salaries of these scum. I am a sworn officer with 21 years on the force. Why are MY tax dollars going toward some piece of shit oxygen thief's salary. I have a young son who is unable to obtain a full time job, yet my hard earned dollars are being given to some loser who has "paid his debt" to society!!! Give me a fuckin break, I have never received anything from this city that I have not worked for. This is BULLSHIT. My only child is somehow at the mercy of the economy because I don't have the connections that a jailbird has! This is how normal, law abidding, taxpaying, citizens of the Most corrupt city in the Union are rewarded! I can not tell you how fucking upset I am over this BULLSHIT! Where the Fuck is the media in this type of case. Why do the people that are law abbiding excluded from the ability to earn an honest living. The Fuckin jailbird paid his due to society, are you kidding me, My kid has NEVER done any damn thing wrong to pay a due to society. He signed up for the military, did his time honorably, and yet has any fucking aldercreature ever extended themselves to help him get a job. You got this piece of shit in 007 who never contributed to this country, his daddy went to prison, his brother went to prison, and yet when a kid had done right, kept his nose clean, provided for the betterment of this country he gets shit on. Not once has my son ever shamed me with escapades such as bashing a kid with a bat over the head like the king's kid or being in a dope flat like the .5 deputies kid. Yet my tax dollars and Your tax dollars go toward the status quo of these oxygen thieves. This city is fucked.
I truly hope Shields can do a good job. He needs to realize he needs to make as many friends as possible!
As far as getting things done, he better kiss the asses of the guys who are still their from the old guard. If Shields doesn’t we are all fucked!.
The membership has spoken! It’s a mix of new and old. That’s what the members wanted.
I voted for mike but, I also voted to keep some of the old guys around to help him. If he doesn’t than he is an ego maniac and the citywide team was right!
all you people ripping on Shields are obvious the same losers that NEVER go to meetings. the first to bitch about how things are, should, shouldn't be done etc, etc. But NONE of you crybabies will step up, go to meetings, and run for FOP office. Why? because you have no people or organizational skills. you probably dont have education either. YOUD RATHER SIT HERE AND COMPLAIN THAN GET OFF YOUR ASS AND TRY TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE...PATHETIC. youre probably the same people who who voted for the same bunch of misfits again that havent done shit for us for the past dozen or so years. just like how you dummies voted for Obama, Quinn and Emanuel, you get to sit back and cry and bitch and now lick your wounds. i agree with the inside do nothing poster...good things are coming and hopefully fast. all the others need to just shut the fuck up and take their medicine...unfortunately all these losers will also benefit from all of Mikes hard work. Fucking coppers are the worse with all this shit.
The FOP does not have the power to influence anything. Throwing rocks and backstabbing is not power. They could not even block the election of judges that pissed on us.
They need people that can play the game for the good of all the members.
Telling the mayor elect you;re going to hold "his feet to the fire" over hiring is a good move?
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I agree completely with this post. Not sure if Shields is trying to show his nay-sayers how tough he can be or what, but take it easy, Mike...let's not begin our relationship with Rahm by making tough-guy threats. I think our new FOP president needs to learn to chose his words more carefully. Hope he holds to that promise he made about hiring Pat Camden to be the FOP spokesman.
Very nice, so his first move is to "hold mayor-elect Emmanuel's feet to the fire". What an incredible fool! How about a little diplomacy Mike? You love to shoot your mouth off and gain instant attention. Even if it goes against your and thus OUR long term interests.
I'm now a member of a Police Department that believes in the "Tooth Fairy, Santa Clause, Easter Bunny and probably Bud Billiken." To actually believe that a Mayor of a major city would want or seek out the input of police officers concerning the new Supt. to be picked may just be the most naive childish nonsense ever put on this blog. Then again this just shows that we have an inexperienced ego maniac as President of Lodge 7. God help the FOP and the CPD.
This isn't the second coming of Christ, people. This is some new, inexperienced no time on the job and no time running the FOP new guy, talking shit about what he's gonna do. Rham's not the Mayor yet and Shield's sure isn't any great negotiator or FOP president yet.
There is a new administration at FOP and the majority ruled. I think Mike Shields will do a fine job. It seems like the minority wanted the same old shit from FOP, which was nothing, had lost out and that is a good sign. I think, and this is only my op[inion, that Mike Shields will set an aggressive tone for the FOP and that is what it's needed for years. I am retired and the policy doesn't affect me as much as it does the working policeman but Mike did set an example when he challenged the Pension Board and upset the old timers. So all of you have a new president so instead of whining and beefing like a bunch of Madison St. whores get behind him and make this outfit finally work for you and your fellow Officers. If some of you don't like my comments from this old asshole then you can go fuck yourselves, otherwise GOOD LUCK.
I didnt vote for Shields, with that in mind lets not hold this kid as the second coming of Christ as well as beating him down. the fact is that he is young and got alot of the votes from young coppers. Lets hope he is mature enough to keep a level head and do whats best for patrolman, he made alot of promises that he will not be able to keep. Lets hope the ones he is able to keep are the most important ones.
How can you jackasses rip Shields for TRYING to finally give the FOP a voice with the city.
Yeah. Rahm may chew him up blah blah blah but he's tried more in three days than Donahue tried for his whole tenure.
I thinks that's all we ever wanted Mark. Someone who gave a shit and tried to have a voice with the city.
The only time we saw you when you were practically in tears at the press conference regarding the new contract.
"Daley lied to us!" Boo Hoo.
NO SHIT NIMROD. Thats what he DOES!
You ate it up with a spoon.
Bye Bye.
Anonymous said...
Telling the mayor elect you;re going to hold "his feet to the fire" over hiring is a good move?
Boy would I like to be in the room when Rahm says GFY KID, & Shields goes running out w/ his tail between his legs. If ignorance & arrogance is setting a tone,we're in deep shit.
3/07/2011 01:21:00 AM
He was elected to do a job and he will do it. Your kind of attitude is why we're in the mess we're in. If you want to act like a pussy then you will be treated like a pussy. Their is a BIG difference between arrogance and confidence. Would you rather have Shields fall in line and keep his mouth shut or make a difference? The boat need's to be rocked and it will, if you do nothing then nothing happens, nothing changes and you still bitch and cry. Now go get me a drink spider!
If Mike was elected by a majority of young'uns then good. It's about time that the next generation is getting involved in our union issues, especially pension matters.
Is a breakdown available to see which (member) units had voted?
Wow! I can't believe all the fuss about our "FOP" and who is running it...what they are gonna do for us...what changes they are going to make! FOP has been nothing more than a dog and pony show for the last 15 years and will continue to be nothing more. I can't stress this enough... FOP IS NOT A UNION! We don't have a union and can not under current law. At best, FOP is helpful at shootings and with fighting complaints against police. As far as "negotiating contracts"...there is never any negotiating. Haven't you people learned yet? It is the same thing contract after contract. FOP "negotiates" a contract years after the contract expires only to have the city tell us "accept these terms or GFY!" And then, after several of these so called "negotiations" we are told again GFY and it goes to an "independent unbiased" arbitrator. Then this guy basically tells us what we are going to get and we BEND OVER and take it!
This department just continues it's downward spiral. Every time I think it can't get worse it does! We all thought it was bad up to this point... just wait till Rahm takes over.
Shields and the rest of the candidates... I sincerely wish you the best of luck, but unfortunately no matter how big your bark may be... by law there is and will be absolutely no BITE.
the entire old regime has been wetting their beaks for decades, anyone who thinks differently is naive, new blood is good.
Its like the inmates pick who the warden is. Not gonna happen. Shields talks a good game but until he shows results the jurys still out.
Why the hell can't we EVER be happy and for once, stick together? The elections are over and we should all try to stop bashing each other! Why are we always are own worst enemy?!
It is not FOP's decision and they don't have a say in the matter. The arrogance of saying that you want a seat at the table is unreal!!
Don't want to be Mike. The old guard will be stabbing him in the back the entire way. Bet they try to back door with Rahm to set him up for failure.
Dont say Mike Shields is the best. Let him prove it to the membership. Don't put him on a pedestal. He's just a PO like the rest of us.....
Hey JK189, get your facts straight before you talk shit!
Rahm is going to eat this neophite alive then shit him out in chunks. I can't believe we have a union president that it 33 years old and has just made ten years. What were you people thinking? And Gorman, you must be kidding me. I've never been more concerned about the future of the FOP in my life.
I agree that learning curve is already showing. Tell the new Mayor your going to hold his feet to the flame. what a goof= You should always take the high road and say- I'm looking forward to working with the mayor for the good and on and on then shut your mouth and stand back and LEARN.
Duh! Winning!
mike is great however he will make this a stepping stone....
The first thing Mike should do as FOP President is to pass the hat for pizza on meeting nights and make it a cash bar.
The second thing should be to change the by-laws to mandate the publishing in a special newsletter of the names of all members who failed to return their ballots in the recent election.
The third should be to make voting in elections for officers mandatory to receive full union benefits. No vote equals no free FOP books, no decals, no medallions etc.
That's democracy in action.
Lighten up, Francis! Rahm is a pussy and I'm disappointed that so many so called " bad ass" Chicago police are afraid of him.....bring it on, assclown, do your worst ......yawn, stretch, whatever!
OT, or not so much OT, State Senate President Cullerton wants to tax our pensions. How nice of him, to provide relief elsewhere (meaning more give aways to losers) and this is from people who have fixed incomes, and cannot get social security even though they paid into the system.
TAX TAX TAX, do democrats know any other words?
like it or not hes elected and is the voice for us. cut the baby crap already wtf. i didnt vote for shields but hes in and thats that. if he stood quite he d be bashed, hey the guy threw it out to the new mayor elect to hear. im gonna give the guy a chance (like i have another choice?) also, that is a very difficult position to hold!! give the guy some support now. good luck to u mike.
Last time I looked, 33 years of age does not make you a "kid". Mike is all grown up and 10 years on any job is quite a long time, I've got 15 on and am in my early 40's. Does that make me just a kid? Let's see what he can and will do before we start making jib-jab clips on him too.
give the new guy a chance.....and where is Rhambo's clout, whenever Barry is done?
Anonymous said...
That's the problem...Mike will not kiss and wait to be told what to do. Time to change they way these goofs do business at cityhall!
3/07/2011 08:13:00 AM
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What are you going to do hold your breath until you turn blue. There is no negotiating with these people. Everything is an arbitration or a lawsuit with shortshanks. We do not have the right to strike and the ten year slowdown didn’t phase mayor Chuckie either. Stop building up Mike on a pedestal, it put unrealistic expectation on the kid. If you think Mike Madigan, Rahm Emanuel, Tom Cross, John Cullerton, or anyone else is going to worry about us you are delusional. We’re at war people just to keep what we have. Wisconsin, Ohio, and NJ are only the start.
Reading half of these post I have to wonder how some of you ever got hired. Please take a piece of paper and write the word clue on it. Put it in the back of your wallet. Cause that'e the only way you will ever have one!
Will everyone stop referring to Mike as a kid. HE'S A MAN, with a WIFE AND KIDS. WHAT WERE YOU DOING AT 33 YEARS OLD?
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from Chicago Tribune:
Illinois Senate president wants to look at taxing retirement income
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Illinois Senate President John Cullerton today suggested the state should start taxing the retirement income of senior citizens who are able to afford it.
The state does not currently tax pensions or retirement funds such as 401(k) plans, but Cullerton told a City Club of Chicago luncheon that should take place as part of an overall look at what he said was Illinois' "outdated" tax system.
"It would just be a matter of fairness," said Cullerton, a Chicago Democrat.
Details are still being worked out, but Cullerton said the state could bring in could bring in upward of $1.6 billion a year. Cullerton said the money could be used to provide tax relief elsewhere, whether that be lowering the corporate income tax rate, reworking sales tax rates or some other idea. Cullerton also suggested a means-test to avoid taxing low-income seniors.
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If there was any doubt as to whether I would move out of Illinois upon retirement in 2 years, that doubt has just been erased.
My pension and me are moving out! No way Illinois will get any of that pension, it is a matter of fairness like Cullerton says.
I am sick to death of criminals in this state with long standing political names like Madigan, Cullerton, Daley, Burke and the rest; jesus those thieves make me puke.
No, he should cower in the corner and suck Rahm's balls on command. Maybe even though he is 33, this guy realizes that he represents the largest employee block in the city and that we deserve some respect. Can't fault the kid for acting like a man, unlike Daley's rubber stamps in the previous union leadership.
the leadership can be only as strong as the membership which backs it.
pansy assed membership will thwart any efforts by leadership.
so end all this shit talk about 'what are you gonna do for me?'.
ask not what your leaders can do for you, ask what you can do to support your leaders.
RE: I say the fop president should get no more than commanders pay and the vp's captains pay. The savings are put towards job retraining for guys like Cozzi and such.
Although it would be a nice gesture but what are bigass benefits for? What ever the FOP guys get and whatever they give up would not even cover gas money for men like Cozzi to get to the training. Your mind is on the right track but think before you blow up this blog with the first idea that comes into your head.
I am glad I voted for Mike and enjoyed his intereview on WGN. He came across as articule and made several powerful points, particularly abou the one-man cars. That hit home with several civilian friends who mentioned it at a gathering today. We really need someone to be our spokesperson and I was very pleased with his focused and calm presentation.
Good luck, Mike!
Illinois Senate President John Cullerton (DEMOCRAT) wants to start taxing retirement income, including 401(k) and pension plans.
My question is if this law takes effect, it can only be on Illinois residents, correct? So if during retirement I live in a state that does not tax pensions and 401(k) income, I'd be free of this Illinois tax, yes?
Off topic. Just over heard a certain Greek ADS plans for moving Penny to marine unit as new c/o before new superintendent takes control.
Anonymous said...
um, the mayor WON'T LISTEN TO FOP BECAUSE FOP MEMBERS DON'T VOTE. The mayor has nothing to gain from us, so we don't exist to him. It's our own fault.
3/07/2011 11:03:00 AM
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Ummmmmm, you have mush for brain. The mayor is a one term deal for Rahm. This is his resume builder for bigger and better things. This is why the mayor has MUCH to gain from us. He needs the perception of low crime and safety in the city, therefore he needs to make nice with the lowly CPD. His base is liberal democrats. Libs love the unions. The Boogy Rahm is not coming for your pension or your collective bargaining rights.
I was not a pro-Mike person before the campaign, I only heard about his actions at the Pension board.
I have to say, he really impressed me at our roll call where he had a few people interested in upsetting him and causing drama. He was fine, addressed their concerns, answered every single question, I think he'll be fine. In fact, I think he'll be excellent.
Why do you pricks always think us KIDS have nothing to offer? You know what you old fucks have to offer? Constant whining, constant complaining, you are the joke. You assholes are the ones that hold us back. "Don;t rock the boat kid" "Things are fine kid" "That's just the way it is kid" GO FUCK YOURSELVES! Give him a chance. Everyone thinks that he is going to change the world. Well guess what old know it alls, there is a board, last time I checked the President cannot make a decision without approval of the board. Now please go back to your cialus pills, and your bullshit whining and crying while you sit in a car showing up last to the job, and then trying to throw your hash marks on your sleeve around. We are tired of it. It's time for a change go fucking retire somewhere all ready. Tell us some more how great a cop you USED to be we all love to hear that bullshit! Actually we don't. So go bid to the flat lands of Arizona or the plush over 55 communities somewhere we don't have to listen to your bs any more.
I doubt anything will really change. Rahm has a lot of clout and Shields has close to none. that should tell you all you need to know about what where in the food chain they are relative to each other.
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If you listen to some you think Rahm is 100 feet tall. He's a politican. He never lead men in combat. He never chased a man with a gun.
He hasn't driven a snow plow or picked up garbage either. He has city employees to do those things too.
OT:
is the city busted??
i didn't get my paycheck deposited in my account today.
today 3-7-11 is payday for alot of city workers.
where the fuck is my money??
its a holiday you should have got it saturday
I voted for mike but, I also voted to keep some of the old guys around to help him. If he doesn’t than he is an ego maniac and the citywide team was right!
Sadly, the citywide team has no intention of working with mike. Ask them because they told it to anyone who would listen after they lost. Do you really think mike is going to keep AR around after he created a blog to slam him and challenged him to a fistfight before the count? Sorry, as you can see MS is really not very intimidated by CW. RA is gone at a minimum.
OT. Senator John Cullerton today suggested that Illinois begins taxing pensions. I urge you to Pick up the phone and call his office. leave a msg saying you oppose the idea.
Springfield Office:
Senator 6th District
327 Capitol Building
Springfield, IL 62706
(217) 782-2728
Mike has to do a good job, he's got to come back to work on the street! He can only run for FOP president for a few terms, like Mark did, but won't be able to retire into some cushy spot.
I voted for him simply because of that! I also like that his Dad (a truly good boss) and brother are on the job, if he messes up our pension - there will be hell to pay personally both for him and his family. I like that kind of accountability!
It's a city and bank holiday. No check for you.
Let the hatred hate, mike, and you do your thing!
Wish more of Shields' team was elected, especially Jim McCarthy.
TO: Some "Anonymous" Poster(s):
Unless you identify yourself, stop ragging on FOP Lodge 7 President-elect Michael K. Shields. While I voted for Mike, I would have voted for Greg Bella as a vice-president. Your "anonymous" post(s) give some the erroneous impression that Greg is less than a gracious loser. Greg is a class act. I'm confident that he will close ranks behind Michael for the common good of FOP membership.
WINNING!
Good Luck Mike. You will have your work cut out for you.
Jeez, can we give the kid a chance? What's with all the hate?
I remember Mike from back in high school when he was a roadie for the powerhouse thrash band SAPO. Mike was cool as hell, you'll like him when you get to know him.
Let's all give Mike a chance to succeed, shall we? It is one helluva time to be a labor leader. He needs our support.
Off topic Lansing dispatchers need to be more accomadating to other officer's
Rham is just a pompous little ballerina boy who's as much over his head as Barack.
Mike, don't be intimidated, and stay away from any locker rooms.
Senate president Cullerton advanced a plan to tax our pensions. You're 75% will become 70% if you max out and stay in Illinois
OT - After Cullerton fixes the budget, maybe he can revive his medicinal marijuana bills:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chibrknews-driver-charged-with-dui-in-crash-that-killed-2-20110307,0,3130703.story
For all you naysayers,obviously 55% of the voters thought we needed a change.Accept it and hope he can do better than the last regime.But please,just quit WHHHHHHHHINEING.
SCC:
There was a Chicago Breaking News story over the weekend (briefly and then it was gone) stating that Commander Trahanas had "stepped down" to captain.
3/07/2011 08:06:00 AM
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Where the hell have you been? Check the previous posts, dufus.
today 3-7-11 is payday for alot of city workers.
where the fuck is my money??
3/07/2011 09:22:00 AM
You jackass...its Pulaski Day.
All non-Essential City departments are closed.
Good Luck Mike. My first wish is that the contract negotiations begin and end ON TIME and that a contract is in place when the current one expires.
In 1973 the piece of shit/now city worker was doing some crime around the Clark gas station at 750 N. Kedzie in the old Fillmore (011) PO Ernie Kansler responded to a call at that location and was shot by him once in the chest. The bullit snaked down his leg breaking it in 3 pieces. Ernie was sentenced to a limp for the rest of his life and working light duty for the next 25 yrs. Asshole then ran into the building next door to the Clark and tried to escape out back when he ran into Sgt. Farrell and fired several shots one of which went T&T the Sergeant's jaw. His was forced into retirement. How this piece of shit survived I'll never know
All you guys thinking Rahm is diplomatic and humble and "just a politician" are going to get a rude surprise. He is bloodthirsty, and will probably run for U S president after being mayor for 4 years. He is going to kick the shit out of this whole city, and organized labor is a one punch knock out for him. And guys come on, saying 10 years on a job is nothing makes you sound pretty silly, an even easier knockover for our new mayor
Old Retired Guy Here:
This is in regards to the "Not Going To Take It Anymore" comment
I remember the incident of the two police officer's being shot. There is a lot more to the story. The offenders were not just hanging around a gas station. The fact that one of these offenders got a job with the city, under the Daley Administration leaves me in a state of depression.
This Is Really Bad.
just wondering, is mike shields going to sit over at the pension board or in the FOP office....which job gets his attention?
CAN SHIELD EVEN TRUST THE STAFF?
THE STAFF IS GREAT BUT WHO R THE LOYAL TO?
I WATCHED AS A FEW WORKING THE ELECTION BADMOUTHED THE YOUNG UPSTART. TEX TING UPDATES TO THE OLD GUARD.
WOULD U PUT SOMEONE IN A SPOT THAT COULD HURT U EVEN THOU THEY R QUALIFIED?
AND WHAT ABOUT THOSE BOARDS?
THOSE TRUSTEES ON THE LIST ARE FAIR AT BEST IS HE GOING OUTSIDE THE LOOP AND LOOKING FOR PEOPLE WITH FIRE IN THEIR BELLY?
AND FINALLY OFFICER SHIELD MAKE THE MEDIA COME TO YOUR OFFICE U HAVE ONE USE IT U COME OFF LIKE THE STROKE FROM CEASE FIRE AT THE STUDIOS.
Anonymous said...
Off topic. Just over heard a certain Greek ADS plans for moving Penny to marine unit as new c/o before new superintendent takes control.
3/07/2011 06:17:00 PM
They may as well take all the boats out into the lake and sink them. That would be the death of the Marine Unit. SG has been bad enough with his meddling moves and NO experience with things that float on the water and diving. Now he is looking at Trahanas???
Dear God, this place is doomed, nothing but incompetents in charge. Pray that Hillard over rules that move.
For several years I have been urging anyone who had hte slightest complaint about how the FOP does things to get educated, form a group of people to run for office and then to run for elective office and take over the union.
Finally a group of committed, mostly young people went out and did it!
Bravo! Good for them!
Too bad more of them didn't get elected but that is how it is done.
Learn, watch, run for office, take over.
I remember Mike from back in high school when he was a roadie for the powerhouse thrash band SAPO. Mike was cool as hell, you'll like him when you get to know him.
But can he hold his own in a mosh pit?
i dont get coppers after years of criticizing the FOP leadership criticism of Shields has already started and he has had almost no time to do anything. give the guy a chance. He has guts and intelligence. he has already shown these qualities on the pension board. I personally could care less how much time he has on this job> I have met plenty of officers with 20 plus years on who are and were useless. Im proud of Shields for what he has done on the pension board and hope he brings that same energy to the FOP.
Anonymous said...
Illinois Senate President John Cullerton (DEMOCRAT) wants to start taxing retirement income, including 401(k) and pension plans.
My question is if this law takes effect, it can only be on Illinois residents, correct? So if during retirement I live in a state that does not tax pensions and 401(k) income, I'd be free of this Illinois tax, yes?
3/07/2011 06:17:00 PM
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We have a 457 plan which is taxable because our deductions are taken out pre-tax like our pensions. Most of the states that do not tax pensions do tax 457 plans.
I had an early lunch yesterday with a guy who retired 15 Apr 10 with 200+ officers in the first wave of 55 and out health care agreement. He said he grosses 5200 a month and will get 156 cola on 01 May 11. That means if Cullerton passes this bill he would pay 2678 in state taxes or lose 221 and change a month. Fort Meyers is starting to look good for me next year.
So how is Mike going to handle this problem right off the bat? Look for this to be a question at his first meeting.
Lucky for Mike state-wide retires are a powerful force. I look for the people in Springfield just to ignore Mike to start with. Since we do nor donate PAC money to them like the teachers he would have to have a working relationship with those people. Right now he has none of that. He has to form partnerships with a lot of other unions to get any attention or we are going to be screwed.
3/07
4:39pm
This is what 54% of the vote looks like. Can this person really be on the job?? God help FOP and CPD.
Ripping on Mike's time on the job is pretty low-rent. For all the time on the job the citywide team had, they sure got us a turd of a contract. Give Mike a chance. It is a good start to remind people of the promises made while Rahm was running for mayor. Now let's hire some pos.
Anonymous said...
All you guys thinking Rahm is diplomatic and humble and "just a politician" are going to get a rude surprise. He is bloodthirsty, and will probably run for U S president after being mayor for 4 years. He is going to kick the shit out of this whole city, and organized labor is a one punch knock out for him. And guys come on, saying 10 years on a job is nothing makes you sound pretty silly, an even easier knockover for our new mayor
3/07/2011 08:41:00 PM
Really? A democrat who gets big money from all the New York and Hollywood liberals is going to extinct organized labor in the city? That would be a real brilliant move! Think before you post.
I do agree with you on the ten year thing though. There are guys with 30 years on who don't have the sense they were born with and guys with ten years who do a fantasic job. All this "kid" crap is the only crutch they have to make them feel smart after three decades in the wagon. By the way I have almost 18 years on.
rahm is gonna eat shields and the unions like KOBIYASHI AGHAGHAGHGAHGAHGA (think of the scene in step brothers when theyre discussing the catalina wine mixer)
Mike Shields has considerable leverage over the holdovers from the Donahue regime as far getting them to work with him.
If they are in the office (assigned to Unit 541) they get Captain's pay. If they don't tow his line or try to torpedo him, he can have them sent back to their units. Even if that means back to Patrol at D-1 pay rate.
He does have club to use.
AND WHAT ABOUT THOSE BOARDS?
THOSE TRUSTEES ON THE LIST ARE FAIR AT BEST IS HE GOING OUTSIDE THE LOOP AND LOOKING FOR PEOPLE WITH FIRE IN THEIR BELLY?
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I just hope Mike does not try to dump any of the elected people. If he does he will A be a one term guy. It will be Mike’s own supports here who will be the reason for that because you guy/gals have put in a position that he has to walk on water to match the expectations. Keep saying he will change how city hall does business or he will not take the bs from Springfield is very silly-juvenile. This is serious business here in the next year in Springfield.
Ask Mike what he plans to do with Pleines. Do you kiddies even know who that is?
He's the lawyer that knows our contract through and through and has the most negotiating experience in the lodge..
Get ready all you hairgels! Wait for the next contract. Better stock up on your KY. You wont be able to afford the gel for your hair anymore.
Franczek is salivating at the mouth waiting for that to happen. You wonder kid is going to dump the most knowledgeable lawyer the FOP has.
In the word of Lord of the Rings, "AND SO IT BEGINS".. Don't say we didn't warn you...
Pleines is a goof with a sheepskin. To call him a lawyer is a real reach. He needs to find a real job for himself. He was hired as a favor to his father, the late commander Eddie Pleines and his late uncle, Retired chief of detecteves George McMahon. He is also related to the O'Donnells, so he wasn't hired for his legal qualidications.
"Mike needs to learn how to be humble and diplomatic. Sure it makes headlines to talk shit and be direct. But good leaders are persuasive, diplomatic, humble, etc...
3/07/2011 06:40:00 AM"
WELL SAID!!
What an asshole move. stupid
Ask Mike what he plans to do with Pleines. Do you kiddies even know who that is?
He's the lawyer that knows our contract through and through and has the most negotiating experience in the lodge..
Like him or not he knows the job.
Anonymous said...
Illinois Senate President John Cullerton (DEMOCRAT) wants to start taxing retirement income, including 401(k) and pension plans.
Your a goof its for High income -- When are you high income? that's over 100 thousand a year after deductions
He has guts and intelligence.
Yes that was intelligent telling The new Mayor he was going to hold his feet to the fire. Real Intelligent. Sounds like a guy who has no self esteem.
For the marine unit comment. You are a gullible fool being fed bullshit. Everyone now knows who you are. How dumb do you feel.
Geez guys....give the kid a break. He hasn't even started yet.
Ask Mike what he plans to do with Pleines. Do you kiddies even know who that is?
He's the lawyer that knows our contract through and through and has the most negotiating experience in the lodge..
Get ready all you hairgels! Wait for the next contract. Better stock up on your KY. You wont be able to afford the gel for your hair anymore.
Franczek is salivating at the mouth waiting for that to happen. You wonder kid is going to dump the most knowledgeable lawyer the FOP has.
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Lotta good all that "knowlede" did for him. What good is a lawyer when our negotiations always go to arbitration? Funny how the city always comes out on the winning end and we always end up getting the shaft..... Franczek is a $10 MIL Havard lawyer who laughs at Pleines like the joke that he is.
Bottom line is that our union failed us in this last contract negotiation. We didn't even come close to cost-of-living raise. All the city knows how to do is stall negotiations until their friendly arbitrator rules in their favor. And before you CW cheerleaders chime in with your usual "the city is broke" "its not bad considering the poor economy" bs tired arguments, just remember that cost-of-living raises for all city employees are factored into the budget. So, keep kidding yourself that "we didn't do too bad, considering".....
WE GOT HOSED!!!!!!!
Anonymous said...
Off topic. Just over heard a certain Greek ADS plans for moving Penny to marine unit as new c/o before new superintendent takes control.
3/07/2011 06:17:00 PM
They may as well take all the boats out into the lake and sink them. That would be the death of the Marine Unit. SG has been bad enough with his meddling moves and NO experience with things that float on the water and diving. Now he is looking at Trahanas???
Dear God, this place is doomed, nothing but incompetents in charge. Pray that Hillard over rules that move.
3/07/2011 10:05:00 PM
FYI....That C.O. spot is for a Lt., not a Capt. Of course things can always change.
Capts. MUST be in the Districts, except for 3 admin spots. The marine Units is not one of them.
Ask Mike what he plans to do with Pleines. Do you kiddies even know who that is?
He's the lawyer that knows our contract through and through and has the most negotiating experience in the lodge..
Get ready all you hairgels! Wait for the next contract. Better stock up on your KY. You wont be able to afford the gel for your hair anymore.
Franczek is salivating at the mouth waiting for that to happen. You wonder kid is going to dump the most knowledgeable lawyer the FOP has.
In the word of Lord of the Rings, "AND SO IT BEGINS".. Don't say we didn't warn you...
3/07/2011 11:35:00 PM
A lot of good it did. Time for new blood. A new lawyer can read the contract "through and through." Time for a change.
But can he hold his own in a mosh pit?
3/07/2011 10:17:00 PM
His own what?
Hater Said...
AND FINALLY OFFICER SHIELD MAKE THE MEDIA COME TO YOUR OFFICE U HAVE ONE USE IT U COME OFF LIKE THE STROKE FROM CEASE FIRE AT THE STUDIOS.
3/07/2011 09:58:00 PM
Shields isn't even in the FOP office yet. Tell me Hater, are we gonna have to listen to you for the next three years chiming in on what you would've done? Hide behind your computer or man up.
I'm now a member of a Police Department that believes in the "Tooth Fairy, Santa Clause, Easter Bunny and probably Bud Billiken." To actually believe that a Mayor of a major city would want or seek out the input of police officers concerning the new Supt. to be picked may just be the most naive childish nonsense ever put on this blog. Then again this just shows that we have an inexperienced ego maniac as President of Lodge 7. God help the FOP and the CPD.
This isn't the second coming of Christ, people. This is some new, inexperienced no time on the job and no time running the FOP new guy, talking shit about what he's gonna do. Rham's not the Mayor yet and Shield's sure isn't any great negotiator or FOP president yet.
3/07/2011 12:28:00 PM
Now this is a fucked up statement! Seriously...how much time does one have to have to in order to have "time on the job?" Fucking idiots! So many people complain about how CWT took a big shit on the rank and file and how they did nothing as we took hit after hit after hit from many angles.
This reminds me of a poster here years ago saying how much he makes and how many degrees he has and hit fit he is and how he could do better than 95% of the bosses on this job. GTFO!!! That same guy is one of the many things that is wrong with the CPD. We are our own worst enemy.
It does not matter how many extra perks or incentives or breaks we get with the next contract, the fact is that there will still be that guy or girl who won't do shit. They will be the same people and probably the first people to bitch early and bitch often and won't do a damned thing to better the cause. 10 years = no time on the job....who the fuck are you to say what a person has learned in those ten years? You probably don't go to meetings and I am sure you didn't run for any of the available spots but maybe you voted. Quit your bitchin' and either support who we have and contribute or STFU!!!!
To whoever stated
ask Mike what he plans to do with Pleines. Do you kiddies even know who that is?
He's the lawyer that knows our contract through and through and has the most negotiating experience in the lodge..
Maybe too much experience with the old regime is not a good thing . too comfortable.
To: whoever wrote
I just hope Mike does not try to dump any of the elected people. If he does he will A be a one term guy. It will be Mike’s own supports here who will be the reason for that because you guy/gals have put in a position that he has to walk on water to match the expectations.
Actually I really don't understand how any of cw team got in. If everyone wants change why not change a little more. Putting in a just a new president will not be the solution. Rahm is the new mayor and we really don't know what to expect. So why give rahm the same team union people to work with? all he has to do is study the last 9 years to break them. At least with a new group, Rahm doesn't know what to expect. The element of surprise is important here.
Ask Mike what he plans to do with Pleines. Do you kiddies even know who that is?
He's the lawyer that knows our contract through and through and has the most negotiating experience in the lodge..
Like him or not he knows the job.
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Pleines needs to stay. He knows why certain things were done in the contract. Also if you remember Pleines worked for Nolan first, then he worked for CW.
It would be a big mistake to get rid of him, he knows where the bodies are buried.
To say any good lawyer can "read a contract" is a very dumb statement, any 8th grader can read a contract, but understanding it is another thing.
eliminate the captain rank
most were merit sgtand lt
can't pass a test , promote them to captain or exempt command staff
what a joke the cpd has become
Ask Mike what he plans to do with Pleines. Do you kiddies even know who that is?
He's the lawyer that knows our contract through and through and has the most negotiating experience in the lodge..
And Pleines has done such a great job in the past for us hasnt he? I say Buh Bye to him and get somebody new!
Really? A democrat who gets big money from all the New York and Hollywood liberals is going to extinct organized labor in the city? That would be a real brilliant move! Think before you post.
I do agree with you on the ten year thing though. There are guys with 30 years on who don't have the sense they were born with and guys with ten years who do a fantasic job. All this "kid" crap is the only crutch they have to make them feel smart after three decades in the wagon. By the way I have almost 18 years on.
3/07/2011 11:00:00 PM
Understand your concept, which until months ago was accurate. However, we are going actually, real deal, bust out broke. When it comes down to it the working man and retiree/pensioner is going to be pitted against the link card, medicaid, illegal alien, benefit and entitlement sucking savages.
They are guaranteed votes in huge numbers.
You don't stand a chance.
Really? A democrat who gets big money from all the New York and Hollywood liberals is going to extinct organized labor in the city? That would be a real brilliant move! Think before you post.
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Well, Daley did a pretty fair job keeping a bag on organized labor. We always got what we got, and how many times did the city knowingly break contract agreements without hesitation. FOP and other unions always play by the rules and followed contract agreements. I always wondered what would happen if unions broke rules and forced the city to get arbitrators to make US follow them would be like. Rahm is a different breed, and not to our benefit. I have a feeling he is going to put on the steel toe boots before he starts kicking the shit out of organized labor. And hollywood cash is some of the biggest available. Does'nt matter where your cash comes from just as long as you have a ton of it which Rahm does both personally and politically. I really hope im wrong, but this is after all Chicago. Dont forget if the boots don't work, some of that cash will. Ever see unions sell out? And being someone with a little time on earth Im sure you have too, How much does it take? Not even trying to argue with you, I do see your point and being a smart guy, Im sure you see mine too
I received mail today that the city was required to send as a requirement for receiving funds from the federal government for the federal Early Retirement Reinsurance Program (ERRP). It seems the fed subsidizes the "free" health care for police officers that retire between age 55until their medicare kicks in.
I thought this was a benefit as a result from negaotiations in the contract from our union. I beleive they passed it off as that.
So did the city dupe the union? Or, did the union dupe us?
Also, the city calls for a minimum of PO's to retire to activate the benefit. Wonder if the city has their own scam going and the fed pays anyway?
Sadly, the citywide team has no intention of working with mike. Ask them because they told it to anyone who would listen after they lost. Do you really think mike is going to keep AR around after he created a blog to slam him and challenged him to a fistfight before the count? Sorry, as you can see MS is really not very intimidated by CW. RA is gone at a minimum.
3/07/2011 06:23:00 PM
This is what I mean. He needs to learn how to WORK with people. He can’t just do what he wants!!
The board vote is close and the president only votes in a tie! Be a bigger man Mike and work with people!
I truly hope he doesn’t put in someone that LOST the election!!!
Is Pleines the only atty that knows our contract?! Can't any other atty learn our contract? Interesting about the way Pleines was hired. He needs to go and if any of the other CW screws up or brings discredit to the FOP/FOP members, then fire them and send them to D-1A.
Go Mike! I'd rather have someone professional, that has a history of throwing down when needed, and questioning publically a wrong doing than someone in charge who just takes what he's given with a smile.
Anonymous said...
What happened to Donahue?
There's a rumor (True or Not?) I heard he got a sweet spot on the McPier Board from Shortshanks just as promised. Just sit there, collect the checks, the perks and in a few years another fat pension.
3/07/2011 10:18:00 AM
See Mike, you play ball like the CWT guys and who knows what you'll get?
Wow you old school hard ass "real police" sure are scared of rahm
Just putting your guy out there with no support
Or should a guy ready for retirement, who's more interested in making his bed cozier,be the guy to lead the youngest major metropolitan department.
Don't know about you guys but when I had ten years on working the streets of Chicago I pretty much knew how this department worked.
But you're the guys that anyone with a day less than you is a rookie
It's a new day,new department,new world. Like it or not.
FYI....That C.O. spot is for a Lt., not a Capt. Of course things can always change.
Capts. MUST be in the Districts, except for 3 admin spots. The marine Units is not one of them.
3/08/2011 05:59:00 AM
I don't understand why she went back to the rank of Captain?
Why isn't wasn't it back to Lt?
"I remember Mike from back in high school when he was a roadie for the powerhouse thrash band SAPO."
...God help the FOP...
Wish more of Shields' team was elected, especially Jim McCarthy......
ur about the only one
Rumor has it Penny is going to 014 as 3rd watch commander
Sorry kid, the Mayor doesn't need your help or suggestions choosing a new Superintendent. "He better listen" are you kidding?
Sorry kid, the Mayor doesn't need your help or suggestions choosing a new Superintendent. "He better listen" are you kidding?
A lot of good it did. Time for new blood. A new lawyer can read the contract "through and through." Time for a change.
You think! It will take him years.
Bottom line is that our union failed us in this last contract negotiation. We didn't even come close to cost-of-living raise.
Something is lacking with you fools.
Every dept took pay cuts- not Us.
Wisconsin???????
Geez guys....give the kid a break. He hasn't even started yet.
3/08/2011 04:16:00 AM
Shut up ass kisser!!!!
Will everyone stop referring to Mike as a kid. HE'S A MAN, with a WIFE AND KIDS. WHAT WERE YOU DOING AT 33 YEARS OLD?
Getting my Phd. in Pysics at the University of Chicago on my OWN dime so I can get the hell out of here. You people are scary.
Old Retired Guy Here:
This is in regards to the "Not Going To Take It Anymore" comment
I remember the incident of the two police officer's being shot. There is a lot more to the story. The offenders were not just hanging around a gas station. The fact that one of these offenders got a job with the city, under the Daley Administration leaves me in a state of depression.
This Is Really Bad.
3/07/2011 09:13:00 PM
Hey retired guy haven't you been listening to the 10 year guys who know everything. They don't want to hear from us anymore. We have nothing to say that they can learn anything from. Ten years is SUCH a long time. Well guys and gals alot of my retired friends our on the board and YOU better listen!!
The same mail came to my house - in addition to the funds for the early retirement mystery - the letter also said that the program ends in 2014 - what happens to the people already retired or the people that turn 55 after 2014?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Off topic. Just over heard a certain Greek ADS plans for moving Penny to marine unit as new c/o before new superintendent takes control.
3/07/2011 06:17:00 PM
They may as well take all the boats out into the lake and sink them. That would be the death of the Marine Unit. SG has been bad enough with his meddling moves and NO experience with things that float on the water and diving. Now he is looking at Trahanas???
Dear God, this place is doomed, nothing but incompetents in charge. Pray that Hillard over rules that move.
3/07/2011 10:05:00 PM
FYI....That C.O. spot is for a Lt., not a Capt. Of course things can always change.
Capts. MUST be in the Districts, except for 3 admin spots. The marine Units is not one of them.
3/08/2011 05:59:00 AM
Just like another unit C.O. that is being moved because her bumbling, "Dude wheres my car parked"!
Kiss that Cola good bye- Shields will never get it for you. Born after 1956 your out.
The same mail came to my house - in addition to the funds for the early retirement mystery - the letter also said that the program ends in 2014 - what happens to the people already retired or the people that turn 55 after 2014?
Ask Shields- Maybe he could hold someones feet to the fire.HAHAHA we careful what you wish- Look at Wisconsin and what just happened today in Michigan.
Anonymous said...
Off topic. Just over heard a certain Greek ADS plans for moving Penny to marine unit as new c/o before new superintendent takes control.
where do you come up with this stuff? you hitting the bottle? be careful you have to blow now with random drug you MORON
where do you come up with this stuff? you hitting the bottle? be careful you have to blow now with random drug you MORON
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NOT till JAN 2012 !!!
Phd. in pysics? There is an "h" in that word somewhere Dr. Brainiac. Hope you don't leave out a letter or a number in an equation when you are designing airplanes.
Ask Pleines what he did during the firemens strike.
Old Retired Guy Here:
This is in regards to the "Not Going To Take It Anymore" comment
I remember the incident of the two police officer's being shot. There is a lot more to the story. The offenders were not just hanging around a gas station. The fact that one of these offenders got a job with the city, under the Daley Administration leaves me in a state of depression.
This Is Really Bad.
3/07/2011 09:13:00 PM
Hey retired guy haven't you been listening to the 10 year guys who know everything. They don't want to hear from us anymore. We have nothing to say that they can learn anything from. Ten years is SUCH a long time. Well guys and gals alot of my retired friends our on the board and YOU better listen!!
3/08/2011 05:52:00 PM
What the fuck are you talking about? Take your medication you fucking retard. You really wonder why no listens to YOU????
Kiss that Cola good bye- Shields will never get it for you. Born after 1956 your out.
3/08/2011 10:44:00 PM
The last 3% bump was passed in the legislature for those born during 01 January 1950--31 December 1954, inclusive. If you were born on or after 01 January 1955, it is questionable when, if ever, the same bump will be granted.
In the past, the bumps were approved for 5 year birth spans. So, if the same ingredients apply in the future, the next age span covered would be 01 January 1955--31 December 1959.
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