$400,000? Hahaha!!!!
Instead of waiting for the shoe to drop, Ramsey - by accident or by design - withdraws from the field of battle:
Philadelphia police Commissioner Charles Ramsey, who was a front-runner to become the next Chicago Police superintendent, is no longer a candidate — and money was a key reason.
Mayor-elect Rahm Emanuel, who takes office next month, has praised Ramsey, who formerly was a deputy superintendent with the Chicago Police Department and chief of the Washington, D.C., police. Ramsey had said he was interested in the Chicago job.
But a source said Ramsey was asking for a compensation package of more than $400,000 and Emanuel found that unacceptable.
J-Fled got $330,000 a year for three years and he had never run a police department, nor served in municipal law enforcement, in his life. Ramsey probably asked for pie-in-the-sky numbers (again, on his own or at Rahm's direction) to withdraw somewhat gracefully.
At least now he's just a greedy man instead of an Emanuel patsy.
At least now he's just a greedy man instead of an Emanuel patsy.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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$400,000 PLUS I heard the bastard also wanted a pension out of it.
HERE IS THE BOTTOM LINE... knowing this clowns past practices he probably has a "squeeze" in Philly so he really decided to stay there.
What is Rahm going to do? Look at this CFD and of course us Bloomberg is CLOSING 20 fire houses in the city where 9-11 happened and all the police and firefighters lost their very lives WTF! Give more to welfare and illegals and let the citizens suffer that work!
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/04/06/exclusive-cbs-2-obtains-partial-list-of-fdny-company-closures/
bet you its that dumb ass shields. michelle o'bamas cousin. just when u thought morale couldnt get worse...
Ramsey would have to suspend his CPD pension payments while serving as superintendent, so he probably asked for that amount (maybe $75,000/yr?) OVER what JPWeis was paid.
That equals about $400,000/yr.
I like Ramsey, but I just don't see any supe being worth that much money. JPWeis was being paid for doing two jobs, when he ended up only doing one of them, so even $300,000/yr is too high for a superintendent imho.
"J-Fled got $330,000 a year for three years and he had never run a police department, ..."
Well, he has now. He ran the CPD. Ran it pretty much into the ground.
Don't forget to factor in our most recent "bad apples" who've done us this latest dishonor of providing a few more proverbial nails to drive into the CPD coffin. For some reason, these assholes always seem to have the uncanny ability of atrocious timing when it comes to breaking scandals which further destroy our morale, not to mention tarnish public perception of what used to be the finest department in the country.
Future editions of Webster's Dictionary will define "Rogue Officer" by: "See CPD Scandal of 2011". Ramsey nixed any aspirations (whether half-assed or otherwise) of applying for Supernintendo when he realized that he'd inherit what is surely going to be a scandal of historic proportions. If he was on the fence for any reason, the boys in 023 made his decision a whole lot easier.
Self preservation in this current atmosphere isn't just for the working grunts.
Well, if J-Fled got paid for half of what he was supposed to do, what's the big deal? I would have AXED for the same damned thang, G.
Ramsey sucks!! Philly is a hellhole
I think Ramsey asked too little. If that fake, chicken-shit weis was worth $330k ... a real p.o. would be worth 3 times that easily.
Good for him I guess. $400,000 is a hell of a lot of money. It is nice that he has the option to bow out gracefully.
However I might suggest, as a non-cop, that Mayor Rahm Emanuel look into the department. I am sure there are some qualified people in the department who have no allegiance to any alderman or other political entities. I think that might be the best way to clean up the tarnished image of the police department, especially in light of the recent scandal involving a few officers.
rahmbo just got punked and it feels so good--- I'll do it for 200,000 per year and we will become chicago's finest again---
It's is time to look at qualify people like JOSEPH DE LOPEZ ,JOHN RICHARDSON .
Think about it, around $275,000 in salary, $95k a year to replace the pension he could no longer collect, relocation money, residency stipend, 401k contribution, all together, around $400,000.
Reasonable.
We can find a good Supt. from within the ranks of the CPD for half that amount. I only hope they find someone decent after the Jody Experiment.
$400 K??????
What a major league asshole
The Philly TV coverage was amusing. All in the room waited with fear and anticipation until Ramsey said he was staying in Philadelphia, at which point the room broke into applause.
What a joke!
What a bunch of self-important idiots these exempt administrators are.
$400,000??? Get the f*ck outta here!
He probably used this as a bargaining chip to sweeten his salary or retirement package from Philadelphia.
Methinks we dodged a bullet.
I'd take a look at Chief Ed Flynn in Milwaukee. He might be a breath of fresh air. I know he did have an extra-marital affair in the news a couple of years ago, but survived it and learned from it which could make him an asset in dealing with the media circus that is laying in the weeds waiting for news of the two Town Hall Charlie Harpers.
http://www.milwaukeemagazine.com/current
Issue/full_feature_story.asp?newmessageid=24642
U must be kidding me 400,000 what a joke even 300,000 is a joke just to be supt of police lOl.
to the coppers who tried to rescue those kids at the fire in englewood lastnight ,you did your best keep your heads up,from a firefighter.
How much is Ramseys CPD PENSION?? Ya think that might be the reason? Same thing w/little tommy byrne?
Something smells fishy about this one. Can't we find a candidate that has ethics, wants to do for the purpose of serving our Department and has CPD experience? Doesn't look like it.
Clear the path for Michele Obama's play-cousin for next supernintendo.
He'd blow it all on Penny Whistles and Moon Pies...
Expensive habit when your diet is 5,000 calories a day and you sit your fat ass behind a desk 90% of the day.
Ramsey wanted an amount closing in on 400K to also pay back into his Chicago pension for the years of his absence.
I'm sure he also threw in the shot that they paid JFled 330K and he wasn't even (close to being) the police so based on that, he deserves more.
Finally, while he knew Rahm would never go for it, it also got him a 30K raise in Philly for sticking around.
Nice move either way on his part.
He would have been a good choice.
He's staying in Philly for 250k...
Well if he is collecting a pension for doing nothing, I assume that money will stop. So why would anyone work for free.
Ramsey is a close EB ally. He's the one who protected EB in his early years with the department, as well as the one who called in favors to have EB promoted.
I am CELEBRATING the fact the Ramsey will not be superintendent. It is just one more tentacle of control that EB has lost.
Screw you, Ernie. Everyone knows what you really are.
You gotta admit, Ramsey's got a sense of humor!
Hell, even J-Fed was willing to extend his contract and do the job for less money.
Don't forget, he was originally contracted to do two jobs; another fine Dick Daley screwing-over of the taxpayers!
Does anyone know how much Hillard is getting paid?
How much is he costing the city?
(OT) Again obama laughs at people who tell him gas is to high his reply "Better trade in your car for a more fuel efficient model" what an idiot!
http://www.heraldnews.com/news/x675823241/Obama-Expect-little-short-term-relief-on-gas-prices
Cops in Philly have started to cancel the "Charley is gone" parties.
Watch out for Little Tommy Byrne from Streets and San for the new Supt.......He had his head so far up Rahms ass before and during the election he needed a proctoligist to get it out..
Anonymous said...
It's is time to look at qualify people like JOSEPH DE LOPEZ ,JOHN RICHARDSON .
4/07/2011 04:06:00 AM
Richardson collects a very nice pension and a very good salary at UIC with benefits and budget. Why would he want to give up that sweet gig to return to CPD? Are you that nuts? DeLopez is a has been and not qualified to run anything. Why must we recycle old bosses again?
Selfish bastard!
Rahm could have paid the man. Now he will just have to pay someone else later when it all goes to shit.
OT. I heard that the new FOP prez brought the board of directors 27 of them to a stea:k house on the FOP.Heard it cost 4000 way to stàrt off dickhead
OT: SCC...Im shocked you have no coverage regarding the 1350 CR #s that got pulled over coppers being nosey and looking up the arrest reports from the 023 guys...because THATS the problem!
4/07/2011 12:26:00 AM said: "JPWeis was being paid for doing two jobs, when he ended up only doing one of them, "
Did he even do one of them effectively ? I'm convinced the guy couldn't run security at a grocery store.
Robert Lopez for Supt.!!!
Anonymous said...
We can find a good Supt. from within the ranks of the CPD for half that amount. I only hope they find someone decent after the Jody Experiment.
4/07/2011 04:34:00 AM
There are no good candidates for Supt. who stand a chance.
Among the shitheads likely to get the job, I wouldn't trust any of them with running security for a bingo parlor.
This is one fucked up police department.
$400K?
You could probably get Steven Seagal for that much.
Get someone that can handle the "celebrity" of the job.
He'd have a lot more respect (and street cred) then most of the current senior exempt jokers collecting a CPD check.
Ask any D.C. cop about Ramsey and they will all say they are glad to be rid of him. He would not have been a good choice.
Off Topic....
Does anyone other then me find it interesting that there is no talk anywhere of any FOP News.
5 Apr was a Board meeting. Many changes that affect us all. No one is talking about these changes. Either good or bad.
This blog and the other one say nothing. Have we all fallen asleep...
WOW...
Why would he have to suspend his pension? What about the CPD retirees that came back as District Managers and the guys from the CCroom that retired and were rehired as civilians dispatchers No way these guys suspended their pensions to take these jobs They took these lower paying jobs because they were in addition to their pensions Noway a sworn dispatcher would suspend his pension to work for the civilian dispatchers pay
It's is time to look at qualify people like JOSEPH DE LOPEZ ,JOHN RICHARDSON .
4/07/2011 04:06:00 AM
Even though both look good on paper, it really doesn't matter. Either of them would be a breath of stale air. Besides, John "Quiet Man" Richardson doesn't want the top job because his public "on-camera" persona is not up to the demands and, although "Joker Joe" DeLopez would give up both his nuts, his old lady and his dog to get it, he would be just more of the same. Many at HQ would like to have either of them at the helm, so what does that tell you? It would be the same old-same old, wink & a nod, underhanded, shifty business as usual. Hope for better than these 2 non-"qualify people".
I'd run it for the money I'm making now... and better than the fed ever did...
OT
http://tinyurl.com/6azxx9n
NU claims Medill Innocence Project professor lied
Cubbage wrote that a university-commissioned review of Protess’ conduct found that he had doctored an e-mail to his lawyer pertaining to documents from his students’ investigation of a 1978 murder case
What a greedy slime! Has he so much talent, that the department cannot function without him?
Ramsey was making about 195k and almost 100k with Chicago pension. So about 300 a yr. If he left and came back, the pension income stops. He would be taking a pay cut unless Rahm would compensate and pay Rsmsey 300 plus to relocate. Ramsey is smart to ask for 400 (which is reasonable after what Weis was getting) and maybe agree to meet Rahm in the middle at 350 that's if Rahm would pay that much. But none of us would give up 300 and take a pay cut to run this dept. In the end he got 225 from Philly plus he keeps his Chicago Pension. Not too bad if you think about it. Smart play
SCC please do a thread on this if it is true.
Anonymous said...
Wondering why we have elections at the FOP when the president can appoint anyone he wants. Syd Davis let go after being the top vote getter in the election so Shields can allow two losing candidates from his ticket to work upstairs. I think there is a reason they lost SCC. Maybe people didn't think they were qualified or they just didn't like them. Way to go Shields!!
4/06/2011 10:13:00 PM
Just get a trained Chimpanzee that can do what da Mayor says, and save the City a lot of money
We dodged a bullet on this one – RAMSEY LOOKS TOO OLD AND TIRED.
Rahm – do your homework and find a qualified candidate within CPD. It shouldn’t be that hard if your goal is clear: find a competent administrator with ethics, integrity and leadership skills. The hardest part is sifting out all of the people who look good on paper or who talk a good game (majority of current exempts, but not all). You will need people within CPD who can give you a scorecard on all of the players. If you lose focus and start thinking about any other factors (politics/race/ or a lapdog yes man ala Weiss)) it gets way too complicated. Yes, I know, I ran a small unit and race is sometimes a factor –but it should not be the main factor in this instance.
This could well be your most important appointment. So do yourself, CPD, and the city a favor. Put in the time and effort and give CPD a quality Superintendant.
I thought when I saw $400,000 it was the payoff money given to Ramsey to stay in Philly.
And then I thought of another time when Ramsey was paid to get outta town. Richie, this sounds so familiar doesn't it?
OFF TOPIC: I just want to let everyone know that we just concluded a major federal civil rights case at the federal building where my husband was wrongfully accused of beating up an arrestee. The case was very complicated, and the offender wanted a lot of money. It was a very stressful experience; but, in the end, we won, and the offender and his greedy attorney went home with nothing. NOTHING.
The corporation counsil team did a phenominal job defending my husband, and they did a wonderful job discrediting the offender's many lies- lies on top of lies. The corporation counsil team was excellent in every way. They truly did a great job.
As stressful as the whole experience was, it was great to see the City fight this case, as opposed to just giving them a settlement, which only rewards future bad behavior and the infinite greed of their attorneys. GOD bless our CPD, and our City.
Signed,
A Cop's Wife
GREEDY?
HEY IF THE DUMBASSES UNDER DA MAYOR LET J-FLED WITH NO REAL EXPERIENCE RECEIVE 300K WHY SHOULDNT GRAMPA DO THE SAME!
I WONDER IF ANY EXEMPTS ARE RETHINKING SALARY OPTIONS?
AND WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE J-FLED MOBILE?
SOMEONE IS DRIVING IT?
OR IS SOME ASS HAT AT MOTOR MAINTENANCE GOING TO HAVE THE TRUCK FROM JAMES BOND DISAPPEAR FOR PARTS?
Not sure why so many begrudge the guy for trying to get all he can. Same thing any of you would do.
John Richarson current Chief at University of Illinois and former Deputy Supt and Chief of Patrol would be a strong contender now.
OT-
SCC mentioned in another thread --
"...we canceled all our newspaper subscriptions and only read them free online. These people can't go out of business fast enough to suit us."
They are driving themselves over the edge; too many clever twentysomething "website developers." Candy-apple-red metalflake paint job and gold rims, but no engine.
Pioneer Press -- now owned by the Sun-Times -- recently killed the Edison Park/Norwood Park local paper I used to buy every week. Now, on their second revamp of the classified ads software, it's still so cumbersome to navigate that I've given up on trying to use it. Who has time to click on every individual ad, and then "click here for more info" -- like a seller's address? It should take minutes -- I don't have hours.
I just tried to tell them this, but the rest of the web site is just as dysfunctional; "500 Internal Server Error, cannot process your request" repeatedly. More time wasted.
The Chicago Tribune drove itself from 175 paid ads per week in one category down to almost nothing; I see Pioneer going down the same road.
All this clicky-zoomy-watch-the-video web s__t -- how exciting and trendy when it simply doesn't work.
Oh -- don't worry about all this being "outsourced to India." Only about three out of 100 of their "tech graduates" are actually fit to be hired for even "customer service."
http://online.wsj.com/article
/SB100014240527487035155045761
42092863219826.
html?mod=WSJ_hp_
mostpop_read
"India projects an image of a nation churning out hundreds of thousands of students every year who are well educated, a looming threat to the better-paid middle-class workers of the West. Their abilities in math have been cited by President Barack Obama as a reason why the U.S. is facing competitive challenges."
Wrong.
Ramey is a shill that gets used every time the search fir a new superintendent starts. Ramsys usefulness comes in the form of taking the heat off who gets picked eventually. Hearing rumors of shields or Aunt Bea!
Why would he need to suspend his sworn Pension?
Couldn't he be a non-sworn Supt. and double dip like other former sworn now working elsewhere in the City?
I think he saw the shit storm brewing here and said, adios.
I'll do it for $190,000! Cpd all the way.
Anonymous said...
Something smells fishy about this one. Can't we find a candidate that has ethics, wants to do for the purpose of serving our Department and has CPD experience? Doesn't look like it.
4/07/2011 06:16:00 AM
Candidates want to be compensated to be a fall guy/puppet/buffer of the mayor in Chicago now. Weis set that standard.
Bottom line is Rahm is mayor now and will be until he doesn't want it just like Daley. Chicago will ALWAYS have a lame duck superintendent that doesn't outshine the mayor himself. If he does, some scandall/smear campaign will happen. The reason being a GREAT superintendent that cleans up the city could be a political threat for future campaigns. Thats how its done in the City of Chicago.
To pick up and move to a highly political, racially charged city in order to run the second largest police department in the country, he should accept no less.
What is Emmanual offering? If he wants to run the department on the cheap, then just promote any one of the incompetents already on this job and pay them an extra 25 grand. Some of them would probably do it even with a pay cut.
im sure you all know by now but finnegan, herrerra, delbosque and e olson were all charged with civil rights violations by the feds. But wouldnt you know it.... all charges have been dropped in the home invasion/armed robbery charges in state court. Whats interesting is that the case fell apart so much that the only thing to charge them with and fall back on is the civil rights charge. Im predicting finnegan will plea to 7 years, hererra plea to 3 years at most or possibly home confinement for 18 months with e/o and delbosque who were charged with misdemenors will get 12mths probation. they went from looking at 40 years in prison for the 15 different class X felonies in state court to a Catch all civil rights charge in federal court... I dont forsee this going much further because when the feds indict they sweep down at once to make the biggest splash. Im willing to bet J blake, suchocki and the rest of the crew will be safe... These guys said they intend to plea guilty and if they dont plea they are the biggest idiots in the world. From what I heard from a buddy(CC ASA) The case of the home invasions/robberies only fell apart within the past 9 months so it was immediatly passed to the feds for the civil rights charges. They will all get something but not much.
OT
And so the SOS saga ends not with a bang, but a whimper.
Finnegan and Hererra plead guilty to felony civil rights violations. Two others plead to misdemeanors. All state charges dropped.
On to our new scandal...
ummmmm thats it? The feds got four civil rights violations out of this whole sos thing??? Four? The feds dont indict in waves or gradually indict. The feds get all of the ducks in a row and indict all at once and this is what they got? Two felony indictments that included the one snitch who gave the whole thing up and finnegan? Then two misdemenors for guys who are not even with the department anymore... wow, well finnegan you dodged a bullet here. Civil rights violation is pretty much the last ditch effort by the feds to get you. Clearly they didnt get indicted for all of the other stuff like home invasion kidnapping etc and just charged them with civil rights. The MAXIMUM that these guys can get is 10 years for the violations they are charged with...10 years? wow, did you ever get lucky jerry. I hear they are all taking plea deals(smart) and I also hear all state charges were dropped because the criminal case completly fell apart a while ago.. Any bets on the pleas they will take?? Hererra was the informant so Im gonna go with 2 1/2 years and jerry pleading out to 8 years and not getting the maximum 10 years. the two getting the misdemenors I will say 6 months each or maybe even federal probation. I guess everyone else can breath a little easier... Trust me, its over... the feds dont indict until everyone is ready to be brought in.. what a joke even though the entire state case crashed and burned these guys get charged... if hererra didnt talk it would be a different story today and the headline would read... "Today all charges were dropped against former members of the CPD Elite sos unit." But no, little keith had to run his mouth.
FOP UPDATES:
"We Are One" Rally 04/05/11
We are all aware of the difficulties that Police and Fire Fighters are facing in Indiana, Ohio, Wisconsin, and other states across the United States.
Please join the Fraternal Order of Police, Associated Fire Fighters of Illinois, and the Chicago Fire Fighters Union in a show of unity on Saturday, April 9, 2011 at the "We Are One" rally. We need to get our message out Loud and Clear. We need to show our strength in numbers.
Participants will meet at the Northwest corner of Clark and Randolph where they will depart at 12:45 pm with a march to Daley Plaza. The rally will conclude in Daley Plaza at 2:00 pm.
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Some morons believe this is a communist movement.
STOP LISTENING TO THE WLS RADIO BULLSHIT!!
Thank God we have organized labor . . . Could you imagine CHICAGO without it.
REMEMBER..
in 2013 the city is taking our insurance away.
Ramsey won't be seen on the 5th Floor at headquarters, but Watch Commander-In-Hiding Henny Penny is still there. She allegedly had police business at the Daley Center this week, and that gave her an excuse to shop at Macy's with two subordinates...FOR HOURS!
Why are the "higher-ups" covering for her? She is a captain, and therefore a watch commander. Ship her out of that do-nothing job and make her work for a living.
Pat Camden was at HQ yesterday to see Supt. Hillard. I hope he's coming back to run News Affairs. The Lt. in that unit is learning that being "cute" got her there, but you have to be a good administrator to run the place, and in that battle she is unarmed.
Off topic I know, but the Sun Times says that Finnigan, Herrerra, Olsen and DelBosque plan on pleading guilty to Federal charges. Olsen and DelBosque to misdemeanors, and Finnigan and Herrera allegedly will plead to one count of felony Civil Rights conspiracy and filing a false income tax return. Seems awful light for all of the things that they were alleged to have on him. Either most of the case fell apart, or maybe Jerry is talking. If so, certain bosses both still working and retired might have something to worry about? Guess we will see.
(OT) They charge sos coppers what about vaneko? What about the entire daley crime family?
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/news/local/chibrknews-civil-rights-charges-against-cops-from-disgraced-unit-20110407,0,5739560.story
It's is time to look at qualify people like JOSEPH DE LOPEZ ,JOHN RICHARDSON.............................................................Delopez used up his last bit of juice getting his son in law appointed as a civilian director (commander's pay)(Joe Perfeti) with a junior college degree. Given , not earned . The motto of the CPD.
A Parting Shot From J-Fled, Perhaps?
Civil Rights Charges Against Cops From Disgraced Unit
Finnigan and Keith Herrera were indicted today on federal felony charges of conspiring to violate the civil rights of individuals. Both had previously been charged in Cook County Criminal Court, but those charges will be dismissed.
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/news/
local/chibrknews-civil-rights-charges-against-cops-from-disgraced-unit-20110407,0,5739560.story
"Does anyone other then me find it interesting that there is no talk anywhere of any FOP News.
5 Apr was a Board meeting. Many changes that affect us all. No one is talking about these changes. Either good or bad.
This blog and the other one say nothing. Have we all fallen asleep..."
Please, post the info that you gathered! (Don't wait for someone else to take the lead)
4/07/2011 11:46:00 AM
Ramsey would be coming back to the CPD.
Dispatchers left CPD to work for OEMC.
Tommy Byrne went to Streets and San.
District Managers?
OT --
CloutFest -- US Steel South Works Site To Become New City Concert Venue
First the fireworks show broken into three separate "keep 'em where they are" shows -- north, central, south -- and now this.
A frantic last-ditch effort to save the Loop from the growing "flash mobs" and "wilding" by shunting the crazies off into the wasteland while still making the cash register ring?
We just heard this reported on Channel 9 news, and a music web site backs it up --
"The Dave Matthews Band Caravan will raise its tent at the mouth of Lake Calumet, on the former grounds of U.S. Steel's South Works mill. It's where 87th hits lakefront. The concert...runs July 8–10...
"It initially seemed as if Matthews would pick nontraditional venues to avoid the Ticketmaster/LiveNation machine. However, at a press conference this morning on the South Side site of the festival, representative of LiveNation were on hand to announce the big gig, alongside strange bedfellows Jam Productions and others (Chicago Lakeside Development, Starr Hill Presents and Chicago Aldermen Sandi Jackson, 7th Ward, and John Pope, 10th Ward).
"The event site is being dubbed Lakeside. And it could change the face of Chicago's growing summer festival season.
"DMB will headline all three nights of the fest. The rest of the bill is impressive: David Gray, Ray LaMontagne, Kid Cudi, O.A.R., The Flaming Lips, Edward Sharpe & The Magnetic Zeros, Amos Lee, Emmylou Harris, Ben Folds, G. Love & Special Sauce, Sharon Jones & The Dap-Kings, Gomez, Drive-By Truckers, Michael Franti & Spearhead, the Jayhawks, Soja, Soulive, the Wailers, Blind Pilot, Dirty Dozen Brass Band, TR3, Vieux Farka Toure, Alberta Cross, Mariachi El Bronx, Bobby Long, Ivan Neville’s Dumpstaphunk, Jeff Coffin's Mu'tet and Gary Clark Jr.
"That looks like stiff competition for Lollapalooza, which has yet to announce any acts."
http://timeoutchicago.com/
music-nightlife/audio-file
-blog/14111989/dave-matthew
-band-will-bring-its-caravan
-to-the-south-side
I went to DC a few years ago. All the officers I met there told me to take Ramsey back with me. None of the local officers I met liked or respected that man.
laugh we are stuck here so WTF he is better off
I'd take a look at Chief Ed Flynn in Milwaukee. He might be a breath of fresh air. I know he did have an extra-marital affair in the news a couple of years ago, but survived it and learned from it which could make him an asset in dealing with the media circus that is laying in the weeds waiting for news of the two Town Hall Charlie Harpers.
http://www.milwaukeemagazine.com/current
Issue/full_feature_story.asp?newmessageid=24642
So did Ramsey & his girlfriend BF is still around. That is why Ramsey's wife told him NO TO CHICAGO, when J-Fed got Chgicago.
Whether he would have been good or bad is one question, but as to salary, why not shoot for the moon? Rahm thought that that was too much to pay, but why is Ramsey getting beat up for asking? The department is a mess, new scandal gets more interesting every day, morale sucks, the equipment and infrastructure are a mess, we are shorthanded and directionless. If I were him looking at what he's walking into, I'd ask for a ton of dough too. Rahm says yes? He comes for the big dough. Rahm says no? Ramsey stays where he is at, doesn't have to move and doesn't get involved in this mess. I don't blame him at all for taking a shot.
But now what?
OFF TOPIC: I just want to let everyone know that we just concluded a major federal civil rights case at the federal building where my husband was wrongfully accused of beating up an arrestee. The case was very complicated, and the offender wanted a lot of money. It was a very stressful experience; but, in the end, we won, and the offender and his greedy attorney went home with nothing. NOTHING.
The corporation counsil team did a phenominal job defending my husband, and they did a wonderful job discrediting the offender's many lies- lies on top of lies. The corporation counsil team was excellent in every way. They truly did a great job.
As stressful as the whole experience was, it was great to see the City fight this case, as opposed to just giving them a settlement, which only rewards future bad behavior and the infinite greed of their attorneys. GOD bless our CPD, and our City.
Signed,
A Cop's Wife
++++++++++++++++++++++++
This is the best story of the week. Good for you both. Now take a deep breath, have a good meal and hold on to each other.
Out fucking standing
Ramsey update....
Starting next period, he will be joining MSF.
...stay tuned
Anybody have the inside scoop on how the bartender and the skull are taking the fact that they're not in the running?
If I were them, I'd be running out the door and shouting an obscene 'fare the well.'
I vote for Lopez. He's my commander and he's a prince.
Anonymous said...
Why would he have to suspend his pension? What about the CPD retirees that came back as District Managers and the guys from the CCroom that retired and were rehired as civilians dispatchers No way these guys suspended their pensions to take these jobs They took these lower paying jobs because they were in addition to their pensions Noway a sworn dispatcher would suspend his pension to work for the civilian dispatchers pay
4/07/2011 11:46:00 AM
The law changed on Jan 1, 2011 regarding that type of double dipping.
Do you think that is why Daley appointed Keating to the Navy Pier job quietly right before Jan 1 at no salary until he retired from CPD?
Lead pipe cinch it is why. they talk reform and then use all the tricks to enrich their friends like always.
Anonymous said...
OT. I heard that the new FOP prez brought the board of directors 27 of them to a stea:k house on the FOP.Heard it cost 4000 way to stàrt off dickhead
4/07/2011 09:57:00 AM
Wrong. You are mistaken in what you heard. There was a catered dinner at FOP Hall last Sunday when they all were sworn in.
I wouldn't do that job for $400 million. I want nothing more to do with this shithole. All I want is out, O U T.
Anonymous said...
What is Rahm going to do? Look at this CFD and of course us Bloomberg is CLOSING 20 fire houses in the city where 9-11 happened and all the police and firefighters lost their very lives WTF! Give more to welfare and illegals and let the citizens suffer that work!
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/04/06/exclusive-cbs-2-obtains-partial-list-of-fdny-company-closures/
4/07/2011 12:13:00 AM
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The only problem here for Rahm is that the firefighters union has langage in their contract which states how many houses, companies, & men are to be in service everyday. And it is locked in until 2 yrs AFTER their contract expires. Which allows them to negoiate a new contract for 2 yrs without having to worry about those issues. I was told that the city can't even bring the issues up in nogoiations until then.
Man you think the FOP could put clauses in our contract like that?
Kevin Ryan for Superintendent!!!
Never trust a Politician, especially one who is always smiling !
Shanks was easy to read, the new "kid" will take some gettin' used to. !!
Capt Tranhanas is Watch Commander on 2nd watch 8 Apr 11 in the 010 District. Be safe boys and girls it could be a long day.
4/07/2011 12:26:00 AM said: "JPWeis was being paid for doing two jobs, when he ended up only doing one of them, "
Did he even do one of them effectively ? I'm convinced the guy couldn't run security at a grocery store.
4/07/2011 10:07:00 AM
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I never said he did the one job 'effectively'.
Why would he have to suspend his pension? What about the CPD retirees that came back as District Managers and the guys from the CCroom that retired and were rehired as civilians dispatchers No way these guys suspended their pensions to take these jobs They took these lower paying jobs because they were in addition to their pensions Noway a sworn dispatcher would suspend his pension to work for the civilian dispatchers pay
4/07/2011 11:46:00 AM
New law, effective 01 Jan this year forbids it.
Wondering why we have elections at the FOP when the president can appoint anyone he wants. Syd Davis let go after being the top vote getter in the election so Shields can allow two losing candidates from his ticket to work upstairs. I think there is a reason they lost SCC. Maybe people didn't think they were qualified or they just didn't like them. Way to go Shields!!
Saw the new boss, man of the people Hilliard, pull up at the game today with 3 M plates and then a driver sits in one of the cars the entire time, great spending of city funds when the city is broke, pathetic.
My hunch is that this guy used this whole courting process to his advantage, as a negotiating tactic for a new contract.
I'll bet you that before he publicly turned down the CPD job and it came to light that he was asking for $400,000, he told the powers that be in Philly that he had a solid job offer and suggested a raise that was less than his asking price in Chicago, but more than what he was currently making in Philadelphia.
He probably knew all along that he had no intention or desire to return to Chicago, but realized he had some leverage with the interest Emanuel was purportedly showing in him.
Off topic
the club Cuvee in the O18 dist. denied entry to four US Marines in uniform and just home from the middle east lastnight. even the patrons in line were disgusted. One guy even offered to pay the bouncers $100 and they still said no. I believe they re exact words were i dnt give a shit what you do for this country your not getting in. I hope you coppers in 018 dont do these guys any favors.
Ramsey had a CPD pension of just over 100 grand and was making 165 grand in Philly. If he returned to CPD, his pension here would stop as long as he held the job. He was justified in asking around 300 grand, but any more then that just tells me someone was not serious in this.
Next Superintendent is female...top contenders Kirby and Skahill..overheard on 5th floor
To the douche bag who keeps talking about Ald. Fred Roti fixing this case,check it out whiz kid ,Roti died in 1999.A tad before this incident.
4/06/2011 09:57:00 PM
I'm sure he voted in the last election ;)
Brian Murphy of the 19th ward will get the job. He has Jerry Joyce behind him.
OT
http://tinyurl.com/6azxx9n
NU claims Medill Innocence Project professor lied
Cubbage wrote that a university-commissioned review of Protess’ conduct found that he had doctored an e-mail to his lawyer pertaining to documents from his students’ investigation of a 1978 murder case
4/07/2011 12:13:00 PM
Is this the same professor that offered a female student up to a convicted murderer as a "treat"? I'm glad her parents spent good money to send her to this institution of higher learning.
Shields didn't use any fop funds to pay for dinner. He did so outta pocket and it wasn't some fancy place, it was in Edison Park. Greg Bella should stop spreading these lies. Too bad he wouldn't show up at fop since he lost to help the organization with a transition.
Anonymous said...
OT. I heard that the new FOP prez brought the board of directors 27 of them to a stea:k house on the FOP.Heard it cost 4000 way to stàrt off dickhead
4/07/2011 09:57:00 AM
Wow! You’re right about one thing. There was a dinner held for board members, but that’s about it. You or any other dues paying member of the FOP can stop by the hall Monday through Friday to ask if the dinner was paid with FOP funds. The answer is no. Grow up and try to be a professional. If you can't comprehend that idea at least find the intelligence to ask for proof before creating and spreading false rumors.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT-
SCC mentioned in another thread --
"...we canceled all our newspaper subscriptions and only read them free online. These people can't go out of business fast enough to suit us."
They are driving themselves over the edge; too many clever twentysomething "website developers." Candy-apple-red metalflake paint job and gold rims, but no engine.
Pioneer Press -- now owned by the Sun-Times -- recently killed the Edison Park/Norwood Park local paper I used to buy every week. Now, on their second revamp of the classified ads software, it's still so cumbersome to navigate that I've given up on trying to use it. Who has time to click on every individual ad, and then "click here for more info" -- like a seller's address? It should take minutes -- I don't have hours.
I just tried to tell them this, but the rest of the web site is just as dysfunctional; "500 Internal Server Error, cannot process your request" repeatedly. More time wasted.
The Chicago Tribune drove itself from 175 paid ads per week in one category down to almost nothing; I see Pioneer going down the same road.
All this clicky-zoomy-watch-the-video web s__t -- how exciting and trendy when it simply doesn't work.
Oh -- don't worry about all this being "outsourced to India." Only about three out of 100 of their "tech graduates" are actually fit to be hired for even "customer service."
http://online.wsj.com/article
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"India projects an image of a nation churning out hundreds of thousands of students every year who are well educated, a looming threat to the better-paid middle-class workers of the West. Their abilities in math have been cited by President Barack Obama as a reason why the U.S. is facing competitive challenges."
Wrong.
4/07/2011 01:39:00 PM
You my friend are 100% correct when it comes to the quality of Indian graduates. I should know because I am an Indian and have relatives in India.
The good news for us is that out of 100 Indian engineers, nurses, accountants, etc.... Only about 1% to 5% are capable of doing the same job as their Western counterparts.
Now comes the bad news for us. Only recently now their education system is being revamped. Rote learning is out and now there are some colleges and universities in India that are employing Western style educational pedagogy.
I can honestly see a future that is not too distant in where white collar workers will have to compete with their counterparts from many parts of the world.
"That looks like stiff competition for Lollapalooza, which has yet to announce any acts."
http://timeoutchicago.com/
music-nightlife/audio-file
-blog/14111989/dave-matthew
-band-will-bring-its-caravan
-to-the-south-side
4/07/2011 05:13:00 PM
mmmmmmmmmmmm, fresh meat.......
Chalkie
Why Not? He would be the CEO of the Midwests first Disneyworld cuz we iz da most rinky dink, mickey mouse department in the country...
Even Mickey and Minnie would be da victims of a driveby...
By the way? Where are da shovels?
Anonymous said...
Kevin Ryan for Superintendent!!!
4/07/2011 06:28:00 PM
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Please!!!!! That fuck has zero leadership skills.......
Send him back to the Park District where he belongs!!
Anonymous said...
Saw the new boss, man of the people Hilliard, pull up at the game today with 3 M plates and then a driver sits in one of the cars the entire time, great spending of city funds when the city is broke, pathetic.
4/07/2011 07:39:00 PM
What is your point? The supt always had a driver. Same for every department head. Gosh you really need counseling. BTW the city is not broke just smoke and mirrors. Now get a life asshat.
Anonymous said...
Ramsey won't be seen on the 5th Floor at headquarters, but Watch Commander-In-Hiding Henny Penny is still there. She allegedly had police business at the Daley Center this week, and that gave her an excuse to shop at Macy's with two subordinates...FOR HOURS!
Why are the "higher-ups" covering for her? She is a captain, and therefore a watch commander. Ship her out of that do-nothing job and make her work for a living.
4/07/2011 04:29:00 PM
They are hiding her for a reason. She would be terrible as a watch commander. Let it go. Who cares what she does so long as she is not commanding street officers. YOU need to get a life.
Tipsville II . . .
Top cop addendum: Don’t be surprised: The city’s next top cop is very likely to be a woman. Stay tuned.
MICHAEL SNEED sneed@suntimes.com Apr 8, 2011 2:08AM
I would like to see someone from within promoted. If they were able to withstand the Jodi Weis nightmare and take the huge pay cut, plus all the bullshit with no personnel and no resources, I say go at it.
If you are retired, took a leave of absence or resigned, stay where you are! Mayor Elect, it will hurt morale even more if you go outside when we have good bosses right here. I can go on and bash bosses left and right, but what I will say is select someone that has very little baggage. We can't live through another scandal. It is time for us to move on.
People like ASA Cuello who should have been placed on leave due to her legal woes with a drug dealer and gun runner was bad enough. Dealing with people like Debra Kirby who has never been a District Commander, knows nothing about being the real police and once she was made Deputy Superintendent, she went back and hit everyone hard that she could who pissed her off at one time or another. I think we are all forgetting that both of these women were Jfled's puppets for all three years. They were right by his side through all of the horrible things they did. They should have gotten rid of those two also when MM and BR got the boot!
How long will the Feds stay on the payroll? Each day they stay, they get closer to digging into our pension. They are also costing the city over half of a million dollars each year. Let one of our own do those jobs. The city will also save major bucks with salaries.
I think it is a given that people like Ernie Brown, Constantine Andrews, Michal Shields who is now screwing up CPS, Dana Alexander and people like Roussell (another Jodi puppet) would do with scandal and stupidity. I just really cannot believe that Michael Shields was even considered. He has more sex beefs and sex issues, let alone is bi-polar and always off of his meds and finally, EVERY EXEMPT would retire if even came back to this job as an Exempt, let alone being Superintendent!
New law, effective 01 Jan this year forbids it.
4/07/2011 06:55:00 PM
Forbids what? If a sworn member retires from CPD and is hired by, let's say, the city of Chicago's Department of Entertainment in a civilian status, the hiree's CPD pension would be suspended while the hiree is working for the city at the Department of Entertainment?
Cannot find it in the pension laws.
"(OT) Again obama laughs at people who tell him gas is to high his reply "Better trade in your car for a more fuel efficient model" what an idiot!
http://www.heraldnews.com/news/x675823241/Obama-Expect-little-short-term-relief-on-gas-prices"
Disgusting. We have a complete Socialist Tool for a president.
Saw the new boss, man of the people Hilliard, pull up at the game today with 3 M plates and then a driver sits in one of the cars the entire time, great spending of city funds when the city is broke, pathetic.
4/07/2011 07:39:00 PM
Oh, you mean the same as the MAYOR did?
"The Dave Matthews Band Caravan will raise its tent at the mouth of Lake Calumet, on the former grounds of U.S. Steel's South Works mill. It's where 87th hits lakefront. The concert...runs July 8–10...
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I hope their unborn children don't end up with two heads and four arms. Bad stuff in the earth out that way. Can't imagine what poison and heavy metals core samples would reveal.
"Ramsey won't be seen on the 5th Floor at headquarters, but Watch Commander-In-Hiding Henny Penny is still there. She allegedly had police business at the Daley Center this week, and that gave her an excuse to shop at Macy's with two subordinates...FOR HOURS!"
"Why are the "higher-ups" covering for her? She is a captain, and therefore a watch commander. Ship her out of that do-nothing job and make her work for a living..."
--4/07/2011 04:29:00 PM
...somewhere other than in the Chicago Police Department, which is widely supposed to be a law enforcement agency, not an entitlement and sinecure for the incompetent and the disturbed.
Rumor has it that the next Super will be a man or a woman! Can anyone confirm or have the scoop?
Can't imagine what poison and heavy metals core samples would reveal.
4/08/2011 01:58:00 PM
Come and listen to a story about a man named Jed
A poor mountaineer, barely kept his family fed,
Then one day he was shootin at some food,
And up through the ground came a bubblin' crude.
Rumor has it that the next Super will be a man or a woman! Can anyone confirm or have the scoop?
4/08/2011 06:44:00 PM
neither, or both.
Rumor says shields is getting it, then business as usual, watch the old resurrect themselves. Joke
Philly just raised his salary 60 k to 255, 000 along with his pension why would he come back. That's probably all he wanted
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