On Second Thought...
In an about-face, the Illinois State Police won’t investigate the 2004 homicide case that involved Richard J. “R.J.” Vanecko, a nephew of Mayor Daley and White House Chief of Staff William Daley.
The State Police had agreed to review the matter on March 25, acting on a request the day before from Cook County State’s Attorney Anita Alvarez, who said she wanted an “independent” police agency to investigate the death of David Koschman and the way the Chicago Police Department handled the case.
But, on Monday, State Police interim director Patrick Keen called Alvarez Chief of Staff Dan Kirk and said the State Police are “unwilling to accept the investigation,” Alvarez spokeswoman Sally Daly said.
- The ISP recognizes a can of worms when it sees it and wants no part of the circus, or...
- Here come the Feds
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posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
129 Comments:
Okay, Alvarez' office would not approve charges, but Alvarez wants the POLICE department to be investigated?
For you civilians, we jump through major HOOPS for her office, completing a vast checklist of people to be interviewed, places to send evidence techs, records to be reviewed... and then her office decides if they choose to prosecute, or not.
How do we get someone to investigate which ASA dropped the ball? Not CPD.
What a shocker.
Good! Maybe the FEDS can get to the bottom of this. Wonder if the late Alderman Roti fixed this one too.
How much did the Mayor know? Either way, calling it quits doesn't mean all the trouble you caused this city will just go away, hopefully there will be some agent in charge trying to make a name for himself and who has the balls to investigate this and ensure all those responsible are prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
SCC, you should add a banner at the top of your web page:
"Justice Denied for the Koschman family, DAY ___" and continue the count until someone investigates this travesty.
And while you're at it, you could add a second banner entitled, "Henny Penny continues to do NOTHING while hidden at HQ, DAY ___."
W-O-W ! !
I predict:
1. The feds wiLl take this case.
2. Witnesses will take the fifth, impeding the investigation.
3. The case goes no further.
Only "Two possibilities?"
Dick Daley & company seem to have far-reaching influence throughout the sad state of Illinois (e.g. restrictive gun laws, forced residency for city employees with no end in sight).
Maybe they got to someone on the inside.
Charge him. Charge the hell outta him!
or #3... feds said "oh no you wont"
MSF Roll Call.......
Announced at Roll Call...MSF adding another platoon!
HA...a solid slap in the face to all you haters!!!
This is one of those things that makes you go "Hmmm...." isn't it?
But this is Chicago, isn't it?
ok i hope you dont have any belief that the feds are going to investigate this...you do realize the president is from chicago right???? and friends with daley
never going to see te feds invovled
Same thing happened at the Harvey Range with the missing firearms when ISP agreed to look into that too. They know what time it is...
Jesus Christ, how powerful is Daley?
Weis wants them to lie box the witnesses. How about boxing the bosses first or put them in the Grand Jury also. Grau-Maher-area 3 det dep chief,down the line.They are retired now from CPD but Grau is still sucking the L/E system dry.Heading the state police makes one wonder why they didn't want it. This may come back to bite Grau in the rear yet.So remember Grau don't lie like you usually do. the Grand Jury or the FBI will be your down fall. The phone's were ringing the next day. Find out what they knew also.
Who is the chief of staff to BHO? if feds take it- not going anywhere
How much did the Mayor know? Either way, calling it quits doesn't mean all the trouble you caused this city will just go away, hopefully there will be some agent in charge trying to make a name for himself and who has the balls to investigate this and ensure all those responsible are prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
4/06/2011 12:24:00 AM
Oh, God. Please. You really think the feds are any different? With Bill Daley in the White House as chief of staff, and the former chief of staff as mayor, not to mention the president tied in with the whole Daley crime family, you think ANY fed looking to save his career is going to shine light on what happened?
Not in this town, buddy.
The Chicago Machine controls EVERYTHING in this state.If they do not want the case investigated,its not going to happen,including the feds.
There may be a dog and pony show investigation but no real one will take place.
neither, the sun times completly blew the whole thing out of proportion just to get a high profile story... they got it and never thought that it would take off like this. The truth that is recognized by ISP is that reopening the investigation would be a waste of time because the dics who looked at it first in chicago actually did the right thing and documented everything and did it right... the kid is guilty but no way would charges ever have been approved.
How about this? Quinn appoints Hiram Grau as head of ISP the same day its announced they will review investigation. After he actually takes the reins, now suddenly ISP declines...... makes you wanna go Hmmmmm.
Madigan!
aside from the initial cover-up, how would this prosecution differ from mette? there seems to be nothing there. that what makes the initial cover-up seem so strange.
I predict:
1. The feds wiLl take this case.
2. Witnesses will take the fifth, impeding the investigation.
3. The case goes no further.
4/06/2011 12:53:00 AM
Heard Holden ( obamas orders) put brakes on fed inv.
The Feds? Thats a laugh. Fitgerald couldn't even figure out that Daley is a crook. And you expect him to look into the Pres's Chief of Staff's nephew, Vanecko? Fitzgerald is just another hack who does what he is told.
Why wouldn't the police charge him. He lost 86 million of our pension money and we all hate the Daleys anyway. How about a compromise and indict him for involuntary manslaughter and the rest of his party for felony mob action.
Alvarez and Lisa Madigan can flee to Wisconsin and Eric Holder will go to Cuba.
Democrats the party of Fail.
Same-o, Same-o. Things are not legit. Look at Henny Penny. More of the same b.s. and the poor copper who accidently missed court because he's working a side job to support a family, mid.'s, because he has to baby sit when he get's home so the wife could go to work will definately see the hammer fall upon him. Yep, she and othersl like her will continue to abuse the rules and regulations, G.O.'s and nothing happens to them. It's a rotten shame that morale in this department is at aa all time low.
Why would detectives contact felony review is they DID NOT want feloney charges. It dosen't make sense. That is why they call to get charges approved
If you think that the I/G's office is going to bang anyone except the Dets who handled did think again. Again there's the Grau connect. Grau's merit pick for Lt, Grapes(literary)and a great guy Bob M. both are investigators there.Both worked for Grau on the same FBI task force. So if you think that the I/G's office will burn him forget it.One big ball of flem. Keep ducking Hi
Which Feds?? The ones with AG Holder in charge?? Haha. Ya right
THEY LIST THE DICKS NAME IN ALL THE NEWS ARTICLE BUT.....
U NEVER SEE THE STATE ATTORNEY WHO REJECTED THE CASE.
I GUESS ATTORNEYS ARE NOT REQUIRED TO KEEP COPIES OF THEIR CASES!
ANITA KNOWS IT WILL BLOW OVER BECAUSE NO REV-RUNS ARE MARCHING ABOUT THIS CASE.
SO ITS NICE TO C THAT THE MEDIA HAS VERY LITTLE PULL TO REALLY START A CONTROVERSY.
Wouldn't it be fun if it was both - but it was the feds coming after the ISP?
One could only hope...
The "G" takes the case. FBI interviews or Grand Jury testimony (or lack thereof) sullies a few of the involved who make deals to 'trade-up' only to find shortshanks culpable and 'den da mere goes down too wit evybody!' (Bridgeportese)
One could only hope.
Anonymous said...
Good! Maybe the FEDS can get to the bottom of this. Wonder if the late Alderman Roti fixed this one too.
How much did the Mayor know? Either way, calling it quits doesn't mean all the trouble you caused this city will just go away, hopefully there will be some agent in charge trying to make a name for himself and who has the balls to investigate this and ensure all those responsible are prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
4/06/2011 12:24:00 AM
If you think that anybody other than the detectives handling this case are going to see the inside of a courtroom, I've got a couple of bridges to sell you.
You want the ISP to look into the King Daley Empire... R you crazy?
HA HA, ISP says GFYS Anita
I'd love to see the sizes and numbers of envelopes that got distributed to make this happen.
Anonymous said...
MSF Roll Call.......
Announced at Roll Call...MSF adding another platoon!
HA...a solid slap in the face to all you haters!!!
4/06/2011 03:19:00 AM
Good maybe we can more MSF people having their drunk fights in the 023 parking Garage... THANKS!
Off Topic, News reports last night saying that 1400 coppers could be in trouble or "flagged" as they said for accessing the arrest and case reports about the 23rd District cops.
There just does not seem to be a " standard baseline" for investigating major cases. Each department does it differently, and within the CPD, each detective does it differently. No one supervisor is monitoring a case from the start to the finish. Cases are documented differently as you go from area to area and from detective to detective. No one indexes the file.There is no way to tell if reports have been altered or removed. These cases should be digitized. The ISP do not keep investigative notes, while the CPD do this. There is a dispute on which method is the better method. This case should go to a special prosecutor who has subpeona power and a couple of detectives from another jusrisdiction and start from the beginning. Otherwise, the doubts will always be there.Unfortunately, the detective division of the CPD has been used as political payback for many years with incompetent people with no investigative experience put in leaderhsip roles. How can they possible lead a major case? Don't forget, when Uncle Terry was chief of detectives and he testified in a deposition during a lawsuit, he put the blame on the detectives by saying he does not have any experience in investigating homicides, how can anyone hold him accountable?
Vanecko will never see the inside of a court room for this murder. No one in Illinois will touch this case because he is the nephew of Richie. You can bet Obama/Bill Daley will tell the US AG to leave this one alone. We can only hope Mr. Vanecko will get a hearing on Judgement Day. What a shame.
Hey did you see the apple store got hit again in Naperville? Give me Give me Give me! Hey nerds at apple it's called reaching out to the local Police Department, establishing rapport and hiring Officers, not white shirts to watch your store when your not around, or you just enjoy the 30K plus losses and pass the difference onto your customers.
NERDS!!!!!!!!!
SCC, you should add a banner at the top of your web page:
"Justice Denied for the Koschman family, DAY ___" and continue the count until someone investigates this travesty.
And while you're at it, you could add a second banner entitled, "Henny Penny continues to do NOTHING while hidden at HQ, DAY ___."
4/06/2011 12:24:00 AM
start your own blogs.
New scandal! 023 Tac Lt has been nailed as the individual leaking the sex scandal details.
It looks like the self promoting 023 Tactical Lt is in hot water again!!
Again, don't hold your breath waiting for Pat Fitzgerald to become involved here.
The person who will come out of this as the "bad guy" will be a nephew of the mayor and the White Housr chief of staff.
Or, to put it another way, the nephew of the guys who invented Barack Hussein Obama.
They will simply have Eric Holder step in and quash any thoughts Fitzgerald might have of acting in the name of justice.
And, let's say (as some surmise) it wasn't Vanecko, but Patrick Daley himself. Do you really thing Rich and Bill Daley would then ever allow an investigation into this?
Mrs. Koschman, I feel for you and your family and your son's memory, but you have again been rolled over by the Daley Machine.
Can't the family sue the offender in a civil court, then they can use the evidence in a criminal trail?
I remember a lawyer on TV talking about the OJ case saying it's easier to get in evidence in a civil case, and if the civil case against OJ was heard before the criminal case all the evidence in the civil case could be used. He also said OJ would have lost his criminal case had the civil case been heard first.
Just wondering.
Anonymous said...
MSF Roll Call.......
Announced at Roll Call...MSF adding another platoon!
HA...a solid slap in the face to all you haters!!!
4/06/2011 03:19:00 AM
Grow up.
Perhaps Banjo Man (formerly J-Fled) is positioning himself to lead a proper investigation after he was told not to do one as Superintendo, lest he offend Shortshanks. Look at all the recent Scum-Times coverage of Banjo Man's investigatory insights...
Got a pistol the other day, only mindemeanor charges. Got a guy with a $5.00 rock felony all the way don't even have to call the asa. Something just does'nt compute? This city has more gun laws than just about any other city in the country. And yet if the gang banger does not meet the criteria to be charged with a felony he walks the same day for being in possession of a pistol. But fuck the piss bum hype for having $5 worth of crack, he goin to county. You gotta love the liberals sooooooo misguided. Just like Alvarez and her asshat followers.
"MSF Roll Call.......
Announced at Roll Call...MSF adding another platoon!
HA...a solid slap in the face to all you haters!!!"
Thank goodness. It's about time they realized that 6 p/os down on every traffic stop just isn't enough. Plus, now you guys will have even more help processing those pissers and one baggers. What a tool!
You're a tool. And how adding more to a would be a "slap in the face" to anybody is beyond me
It's gonna be 80 on sunday and chalkies air conditioner was stolen. He's pissed!!!!
The Feds are not going to investigate this because the MURDER of an every day ordinary citizen by an every day ordinary citizen IS NOT a federal crime.
The feds ???
They had their chance to take down the whole machine. If the G was going to clean up Chicago they would have allowed the Blago investigation to terminate naturally. Chicago city government would be unrecognisable and the U.S. would have a different President.
MSF Roll Call.......
Announced at Roll Call...MSF adding another platoon!
HA...a solid slap in the face to all you haters!!!
4/06/2011 03:19:00 AM
A little birdie up my *ss announced the new MSF pontoon will be assigned to summahtime lakefront beach babysitting and Michigan Ave. flash mob suppression. Good bye McDonald's and Portillo's freebees.
Holy shit. Downtown is furious the Tac lt 023 forwarded info and reports to the media with his own PC# on the documents.
MSF Roll Call.......
Announced at Roll Call...MSF adding another platoon!
HA...a solid slap in the face to all you haters!!!
4/06/2011 03:19:00 AM
Keep believing the bullshit, one day it will come true. Until then, keep thinking that the department and your bosses have your back! You and your team are really making a difference when all of you go down on that big assed caper you’re on, all of what? 4 rocks! WOW! Another “Pablo Escobar” you got there! Try not to break your arm patting yourself on the back, super-cop. And remember this, your 1st & 16th aint no different than mine, or the dogass’ 1st and 16!
023 District Fuckup of the Week goes to............. Tactical Lt S for giving the media reports and privy police information.
It's Chicago and Daley what do you expect?
Even the Kennedy's are intimidated by the machine...
How scary big bad rahm is warning the unions... work longer days and more of em for less pay... who is the jerkass in this battle
You Suck Rahm
It really doesn't matter because the Ultra-Corrupt Daley Family has their tentacles in every Law Enforcement Agency that could be involved. The Texas Rangers are about the only Agency that would conduct an uninfluenced, unbiased investigation. The Feds? You gotta be kidding me. Even if they did determine Vanecko killed the Lad, Vanecko would be 90 years old before they locked him up.
Finally a Breaking News article on one of the many "wildings."
How come Darren O'Brien from the CCSAO felony review unit isn't producing their reports and documents.
Why was it and how often does the Head of Felony Review come out to the detective areas for a simple agg.batt/ homicide.... I can tell you in all the homicides I have. investigated I have seen it done on 4 police officer murders that I worked and one other HIGH profile multiple body murder.
Why did Dick Devine decide to send his head of felony review out to review this investigation--when did he become aware that the suspect was related to the mayor.
We (CPD) don't present witnesses. to the Grand Jury the CCSAO does this, why didn't they present any witnesses to it--- were they afraid that an indictment would be returned.... Why no attacking their investigation-- we present a case to them they ultimately charge not CPD...
Why don't you look at all the other CCX cases that the CCSAO doesn't charge--- I have stacks of them that they refuse to charge that ultimately get CCX'D.
Why didn't Darren O'Brien issue a grand jury subpoena to compel Vanecko to come in with his attorney to talk, he could have questioned him at any time
OT - Daley fear mongering on his way out of office
Daley Warns Against Concealed-Carry Bill
Outgoing Mayor Richard Daley warned today of a city in which parks, college campuses, malls and other public places could be crowded with gun-toting citizens if the General Assembly passes a bill allowing Illinois residents to carry concealed weapons.
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/news/
local/chibrknews-daley-warns-against-concealedcarry-bill-20110406,0,1904703.story
MSF has a new platoon to start in June... TRU has 96 officers headed back to southside districts! This coming straight from 35th street!
MSF Roll Call.......
Announced at Roll Call...MSF adding another platoon!
HA...a solid slap in the face to all you haters!!!
4/06/2011 03:19:00 AM
Ok STROKE. Time to get over yourself. There is nothing that your unit does that any other patrol unit hasn't done at one time or another in the history of CPD. Last time I checked your shirt is still blue. You shouldn't expect to be in a unit your whole career because nothing lasts forever. Enjoy the time out of a beat car but please come back down from the clouds and stop drinking the MSF blend cool aid.
Signed,
A guy in a unit who didn't forget where he came from.
"..Good! Maybe the FEDS can get to the bottom of this. Wonder if the late Alderman Roti fixed this one too.."
Chicago is a cesspool, Roti was a friggin MADE MAN, a mobster!!!and after his death was honored by the Chicago Cityy Council with Daley and Burke even speaking in glowing terms of him. What a friggin joke this city is.
Anonymous said...
MSF Roll Call.......
Announced at Roll Call...MSF adding another platoon!
HA...a solid slap in the face to all you haters!!!
4/06/2011 03:19:00 AM
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No hater here my friend, but on the way out please clean out your locker because the next time you see a northwest side or southwest side district you will be the so-called hater writing these words!
Be careful what you wish for!
Just heard Ramsey is withdrawing his name from consideration because he wants to be paid $400,000 a yr. That is a real lot of money. But if Jody got $310k and was never a cop, you can't blame Ramsey for wanting more because he really was a cop.
To bad RJ wasn't on the job. The FEDS would be all over it
It should be obvious why the state police do not want to get involved, but I am not sure that if push comes to shove they will have a choice. As far as the G is concerned there really is nothing here that rises to a federal crime. It is not a Civil Rights violation.
OT --
Don't be dazzled by spring real estate sales blitz
I've noticed a lot of "news items" on the radio -- merely press releases from various real estate firms read out verbatim as though they were fact.
Both-thumbs-up "booster" material, "available houses are such a bargain they're going to sell out like crazy, don't get left behind!"
Can't move those condos to save their lives. Absolutely desperate.
The kid didn't get charged because the kid SHOULDN'T get charged....no matter who his uncle is!
1st Deputies office found out who Sneed source is : 023 Tac Lt BS.
Ramsey said "thanks, but no thanks."
Mike Ditka for CPD Supt.
Actually, 4/6 12:14 A.M., it should be"...and then her office decides NOT TO PROSECUTE".
They shouldn't call it Felony Approval. They should call it Felony DENIAL!
Hey, we've only got about 50,000 people and we don't want "Downtown" Ernie Brown for police chief.
Now that Philadelphia's Charles Ramsey is out of the mix, Chicago and Emanuel should name a new chief with the credibility, morals and integrity of DTEB. Right?
EXCELLENCE, Chicago-style! It's the Chicago Way.
OT:
chicagotribune.com
Ramsey: Not returning to Chicago police
The Associated Press
5:06 PM CDT, April 6, 2011
PHILADELPHIA (AP) — Police Commissioner Charles H. Ramsey, who had been in talks with Chicago Mayor-elect Rahm Emanuel about the top police job there, said Wednesday that he will remain in Philadelphia.
“This was a very, very tough decision,” Ramsey said, adding that he opted to stay in Philadelphia after talking with his family. “It's just the right thing to do. … We've done a lot, but we've got an awful lot more to do.”
Last month, Ramsey said that he been in talks with Emanuel, the former White House chief of staff who won election in February, about taking command of that city's police department.
Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter said Ramsey did not make an issue of money, but the city will raise his compensation from $195,000 a year to $255,000.
Ramsey began his career in Chicago, rising to deputy superintendent before leaving to be chief of police in Washington in 1998. He moved to Philadelphia in 2008.
Speculation about Ramsey began swirling in March when Chicago Police Superintendent Jody Weis, the former head of the FBI field office in Philadelphia, finished his contract.
A nine-member police board is searching for a successor to Weis and will offer up three candidates to Emanuel, who takes office in May.
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Cortez Trotter da' man who will make you long for the good old days with Jody. Remember that picture of "W" with the caption of "Miss me yet?" Ummm, you might see the same thing with Jody Weis.
FLASH-
WGN-TV reporting that Ramsey is out of running for police chief here...
It's now a toss-up for the next supt.: "Burger Queen" or "Henny Penny".
Ramsey isn't stupid.
Off Topic, News reports last night saying that 1400 coppers could be in trouble or "flagged" as they said for accessing the arrest and case reports about the 23rd District cops.
NOT! Ist Deputies office already has one of the media's copies with 023 Tac Lt PC# on the bottom
Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter bumped up the salary of Charles Ramsey from $195,000 to $255,000 a year. Ramsey declined the CPD offer from Emanuel and will remain Philly's top cop.
Channel 7 is reporting Ramsey took himself out of the running for Supt because Emanuel refused to meet Ramseys demand that he be paid $400,000!!!
What a JAGBAG!!
In a couple of years when the Repubs take the White House, there will be a knock on Daley's door. He better move to China.
It's the Shitcago way.
Heard Holden ( obamas orders) put brakes on fed inv.
4/06/2011 08:31:00 AM
Who is Holden? William Holden?
Who told you? Biden? Clinton?
MSF Mighty Stupid Fools...
Wait until one of you chumps run into something and all the white shirts take a step back and turn there heads... don't do it boys and girls, it's not worth it and no one is going to back you
Heads, Heads, Heads aka 30 pending 30 pending 30 pending
Working Man said...
Channel 7 is reporting Ramsey took himself out of the running for Supt because Emanuel refused to meet Ramseys demand that he be paid $400,000!!!
What a JAGBAG!!
4/06/2011 06:09:00 PM
Some Jagbags can't read. The salary was a $400,000 in total compensation, something south of $300,000 in salary and relocation money plus a residency stipend plus 401k plus vehicle and who know what else. All we know of Weis was his salary, don't know of his extra perks. Ramsey was not way off base all things considered.
More wildings downtown. Last night at chicago and wabash a man was beaten up and robbed. Today, at about 5 pm another man at the same spot chicago/wabash was beaten up, robbed and stabbed in the neck by a group of several male black youths. Both stories were found on chicago breaking news.com. These are two seperate incidents! Of course, no descriptions were given that they were male black youths... I just know that because I was on scene. Nothing is getting done about this and it needs cover story press to get some police presence down there. SCC, I know youve made wildings threads in the past but you need to find and link the two stories to get the word out again and lack of coverage by the media.
"It's now a toss-up for the next supt.: 'Burger Queen' or 'Henny Penny.'"
--4/06/2011 05:55:00 PM
...which social experiment would lead to another grand opportunity for a really good master's thesis, tentatively to be entitled "Aspects of Mass Panic: City Without Protection. How The Police Fled Chicago."
Now we know why Mr. Grau has become such a popular policeman...Dep. Sup. Of Detectives when all of this happened!!!
According to WBBM radio, Ramsay simply wasn't offered enough money -- he was holding out for over $400,000 per year.
Then they played a sound bite of him addressing the troops at home, "really can't leave after all we've been through together..."
Yeah, right.
Tell Chalkie to "Bring it"! (Sunday) I have a new boat to pay fo'
Heard msf is adding more " troops " to their unit.
I didn't know Clown College graduated another class. What's the price of a tattoo for the new guys?
Group discount?
Try not to stroke out before your 25, it ain't that serious dude(s)
Finally a Breaking News article on one of the many "wildings."
4/06/2011 02:09:00 PM
I found a link on this not-mainstream site:
http://www.chicagonewsreport.com/2011/04/gang-attacks-man-downtown.html
Of course, the Trib wont touch this kind of story as it might scare of the tourists.
It's funny how the bosses have the MSF personnel bullshitted into thinking that it's some really "elite" unit. Young goofs, you will learn soon. You are puppets for the puppetmasters. Please stay safe, and don't let boss bullshit go to your head. They're only tricking you into doing twice as much work, while their clouted ones don't do anything in their "Spots" and get paid the same, or more than you, who keep the numbers up, so their buddies and girlfriends don't ever have to do any real policework. It's true, and some day you will get the big picture. It's all about CPD nepotism and corruption, and when you see their do nothin desk Dolly's get promoted over and over thru the years, and you go nowhere, it will then sink into your young Cherry Skulls.
"Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter said Ramsey did not make an issue of money..."
--4/06/2011 05:35:00 PM
Said it with a straight face, too.
Phila. Pa. so beloved of Ramsey that 400 large and he is gone like the wind.
So now what?
Actually, 4/6 12:14 A.M., it should be"...and then her office decides NOT TO PROSECUTE".
They shouldn't call it Felony Approval. They should call it Felony DENIAL!
4/06/2011 05:24:00 PM
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Funny, but that's how I originally wrote it, then decided to rephrase it, since I was trying to be as clear on the 'process' as I could be, for the sake of civilians reading it.
Your phrasing IS the more direct way of putting it.
023 District Fuckup of the Week goes to............. Tactical Lt S for giving the media reports and privy police information.
4/06/2011 12:41:00 PM
And nothing will happen to him. But they will sure hammer the 1300 or so curious cops who decided to read the case report of these fuck ups.
To the MSF Nitwit:
Bask in the false glory my friend, because nothing lasts forever.
You did not receive a promotion. You volunteered to give up contractual rights to go to a unit.
You are not special, you have no special talents, probably many fewer than coppers who have been pushing a beat car for years.
Keep your blue shirt handy because you are going to need it.
You are not a specialist, you are a body, like the other 9,000 bodies on this job. You have no protections as if you were promoted.
You are a blue shirt, temporarily detailed. That is all. It would be good to remind yourself of these facts, so when you are dumped you don't end up on a Valium drip in the E.R.
Ramsey backing out was just smoke and mirrors Gave them both an out Ramsey wanted $400,000 BS he settled for $255,000 amnd it showed Rahm is fiscally responsible by not overpaying the new Supt Was a great political ploy that benefitted both when Ramsey wasnt the choice Now hes taslking about how much he loves Philadelphia, had he gotten $400,000 he wouldnt have loved them
To the douche bag who keeps talking about Ald. Fred Roti fixing this case,check it out whiz kid ,Roti died in 1999.A tad before this incident.
Wondering why we have elections at the FOP when the president can appoint anyone he wants. Syd Davis let go after being the top vote getter in the election so Shields can allow two losing candidates from his ticket to work upstairs. I think there is a reason they lost SCC. Maybe people didn't think they were qualified or they just didn't like them. Way to go Shields!!
Chuck Ramsey won't be coming to Chicago afterall. He told Mayor-elect Rahm he wants a salary of $400,000 a year to serve. Rahm has told him to stay where he is.
Wow...... I guess no politics there. Shits getting so deep I guess I breaking out my wetsuit.
aside from the initial cover-up, how would this prosecution differ from mette? there seems to be nothing there. that what makes the initial cover-up seem so strange.
4/06/2011 08:30:00 AM
It would not differ at all actually. But then what would all the conspiracy theorists do?
Why wouldn't the police charge him. He lost 86 million of our pension money and we all hate the Daleys anyway. How about a compromise and indict him for involuntary manslaughter and the rest of his party for felony mob action.
4/06/2011 08:38:00 AM
seriously? You still don't understand that you are talking about two different nephews?
I hope that it does not happen, but if anyone goes down regarding this investigation, it will be one or more of the detectives assigned to A/3 or A/5.
Anonymous said...
The feds ???
They had their chance to take down the whole machine. If the G was going to clean up Chicago they would have allowed the Blago investigation to terminate naturally. Chicago city government would be unrecognisable and the U.S. would have a different President.
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YEP! My thoughts exactly, and for the longest time. Gotta give you credit, as I couldn't have said this better myself.
Anonymous said...
It's now a toss-up for the next supt.: "Burger Queen" or "Henny Penny".
Ramsey isn't stupid
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No, he's smart! Rumor had it that he had too many skeletons in the closet. That's why they took him out of the running the first time, and left to work for another city.
SCC, IMPORTANT!!!!! said...
More wildings downtown. Last night at chicago and wabash a man was beaten up and robbed. Today, at about 5 pm another man at the same spot chicago/wabash was beaten up, robbed and stabbed in the neck by a group of several male black youths. Both stories were found on chicago breaking news.com. These are two seperate incidents! Of course, no descriptions were given that they were male black youths... I just know that because I was on scene. Nothing is getting done about this and it needs cover story press to get some police presence down there. SCC, I know youve made wildings threads in the past but you need to find and link the two stories to get the word out again and lack of coverage by the media.
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Haven't you figured it out yet? When one of these worthless criminal youths become victim of gang violence or alleged police brutality, they're called CPS Students. The ironic thing is, it could be past curfew, nowhere near a school, and this is what they call they Them. media won't dare call it like they should. They never do! So, keep hoping these spineless weasels print the truth with true purpose, and integrity.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Chuck Ramsey won't be coming to Chicago afterall. He told Mayor-elect Rahm he wants a salary of $400,000 a year to serve. Rahm has told him to stay where he is.
4/06/2011 10:24:00 PM
400 grand nice! Now maybe Rahm will tell the exempts no more gold braid pension bullshit that would be "change we could believe in"!
Tobias will be Supernintendo.
it will just go away, uncle is in the white house, come on. hes in the daley family picture for GOD's sake.
All the MSF hating bullshit started with a non-MSF post posing and looking for a reaction. Most on the MSF are decent coppers, with a spattering of tools like everywhere else.
Bottom line, who gives a shit? Some go to a unit that works in the worst ghetto spots and some stay in districts. It's all the same bullshit no matter where you go.
Probably better to stay in a district and deal with what you get over going to a unit that screws you in the long run. If guys and girls want to work ghetto spots, go for it. District is always waiting to take you back.
Jesus Christ, how powerful is Daley?
4/06/2011 06:39:00 AM
I know, right? Very powerful
Anonymous said...
Why wouldn't the police charge him. He lost 86 million of our pension money and we all hate the Daleys anyway. How about a compromise and indict him for involuntary manslaughter and the rest of his party for felony mob action.
4/06/2011 08:38:00 AM
seriously? You still don't understand that you are talking about two different nephews?
4/06/2011 10:51:00 PM
And it was $68 million, not $86 million and he didn't get near the full amount. Payouts were stopped.
and yes, two Vaneckos, brothers.
The Feds aint gonna do shit.The Daley Organized Crime Group controls the White House. The FBI is very political.They only go after who they are allowed to go after.Get over it.
We all know that the City and the States Atty Office will come out of this investigation smelling like a rose.
I would think the Detectives will also have to be exonerated. If the Detectives take a hit and are accused of submitting false reports, it destroys their creditability and a good lawyer will demand new trials on any cases where his client is doing time for a murder / shooting and these detectives are involved. Also, here comes multiple civil suits for any case these detectives are involved with. If they make the Detectives the fall guys and determine that the Detectives "lied" - it opens up a whole can of costly worms.
No matter who is onvolved, the only losers at the end will be the police.
Anonymous said...
Jesus Christ, how powerful is Daley?
4/06/2011 06:39:00 AM
I know, right? Very powerful
4/07/2011 02:47:00 AM
He hasn't been indicted yet and Blago is going to trial for the second time for essentially making political deals on the telephone.
Blago got the Miriam Santos treatment for pissing off the big boys.
Anonymous said...
The Feds aint gonna do shit.The Daley Organized Crime Group controls the White House. The FBI is very political.They only go after who they are allowed to go after.Get over it.
4/07/2011 04:35:00 AM
The FBI would need the permission of Eric Holder to go after any politicians and I don not believe Holder will go after the Daleys or any other Chicago Politicians. The politcians underlings yes, they will be the scape goats.
Do you think the reason ISP doesn't wish to get involved has anything to do with OUR new director from your agency and Alvarez's office.
Sorry , I love you guys, but i hate the fact we're getting another political hack from your dept. It's been quoted on earlier blogs , we DO have quite a number of current and former ISP that would have been a much better choice as our Director and could have helped bring us back to our former respected status.I just pray it's short lived and he leaves for another pension elswhere. Again , I have utmost respect for you guys, but will never accept the new director as one of us. Hopefully he's respectful enough to never wear our uniform.
Thanks to those who are always there for us.
20yrtroop
This case is closed, and has been closed for over six years. So forget it and move on.
Old man Daley put a president in the White House.
Current Daley put a president in the White House.
What don't you people understand about that?
"Tell Chalkie to "Bring it!"
--4/06/2011 08:27:00 PM
He on it, know whum sayin'. He is on the motherf__er.
Meet me at the club, it's goin' down
Meet me at the mall, it's goin' down
Whoo!
Is the CCSAO & anita alvarez tired of jumping from behind trees and yelling "BOO" while chasing everybody with the "investigate CPD for our fuck-up" shit-stick?
That's the kind of playground game that ends up with somebody getting poked in the eye with the same shit-stick.
023 tac Lt is old school and would back you up in a heart beat, no matter what kind of shit it is. You can beat him up all you want,hes a big boy and knows how to play!!
If it went without charges under Bush, what makes you think it's going anywhere now?
Actually, 4/6 12:14 A.M., it should be"...and then her office decides NOT TO PROSECUTE".
They shouldn't call it Felony Approval. They should call it Felony DENIAL!"
Are you referring to Felony Review?
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