Beyond Wilding?
We wonder if the Detectives will be able to tie this into any of the recently ignored incidents downtown:
- Police and relatives later said a co-worker found Jernagin dead inside a back office of Wabash Food & Liquors at about 8 a.m., the victim of an apparent robbery. The store’s door was locked when the co-worker arrived, police said.
Jernagin, 57, had been shot in the back of the head, police said. A source indicated a safe was found open in the office.
Police did not say when they believe the shooting occurred, but one of Jernagin's sisters, who lives in an apartment above his home in the city’s South Shore neighborhood, did not hear Jernagin return home Thursday night, his brother George Miles said.
Hmmmmm.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
66 Comments:
speaking of wilding...another bad night down there in 018..more robberies and general meyham...if this keeps up Chicago is in trouble.
What the Crystal Ball Unit has nothing eh?
That seems like a stretch.
Homeless crackhead most likely.
Heres another reminder of why you need to be armed when working retail and cash is on hand. A simple .38 snub could have prevented this man from being harmed.
We needs to arrest white peoples!!!
Signed: 'The reverends'
Ill. commission would probe racial discrimination
By AP News
Saturday, May 07, 2011
SPRINGFIELD, Ill. (AP) — Illinois moved one step closer to creating a commission investigating racial discrimination in law enforcement when a Senate committee this week approved creation of a task force.The call for the commission stems from a report that showed blacks are disproportionately incarcerated for low-level, non-violent drug crimes than whites. The commission would collect and analyze ethnic and racial arrest data to determine the prevalence of discrimination in crime sentencing.The task force would be established pending Senate and House votes.Creating the commission is the first part of a list of recommendations resulting from the initial study. The study also suggests increased funding for alternatives beyond incarceration and reducing barriers to employment for those with criminal records.
Daley stated on the radio that he needed that guard unit because protection of his family comes first. What about my family?
5/06/2011 05:46:00 PM
Who would harm his family? He did no harm to anyone. 22 years of nothing but good deeds. A city and a civic economy to be proud of and an excellent bond rating.
Now. What or whom does he have to fear?
On the other hand, just for example; if he fucked over someone or some group and he seriously feared for his life and that of his family, he could and rghtfully should, hire and pay for his own body guards. His 200K+ yearly pension can afford safety for HIS family because protection for his family comes first.
Am I right?
Anonymous said...
speaking of wilding...another bad night down there in 018..more robberies and general meyham...if this keeps up Chicago is in trouble.
5/07/2011 03:27:00 AM
How about specifics.
Anonymous said...
What the Crystal Ball Unit has nothing eh?
5/07/2011 03:32:00 AM
Watch out for the wilding... is that better?
Chicago Ave is turning into 79th St. Nothing but shortwave acting the fool. I'm guessing this won't help the downtown condo market. You can't walk outside at night and feel safe downtown anymore. Stores will leave soon instead of dealing with looters
Wildings also in 017 last week in broad daylight and last night on Devon in 024. You're damn right I'm defending myself and my family...too bad for the private citizens who are forbidden from self-defense.
Where is CCG? Where are the bicycle boys? Time to make some tough decisions and move some PO's to the 3rd watch to patrol the area.
so is the district commander going to put out an alert?
once again a so called leader waiting for shit to hit the fan till any action is taken proactively.
WHEN A TOURIST IS IN SOME KIND OF COMA FROM IRELAND WATCH THE WHITE SHIRTS ASK FOR EVERY UNIT TO SWARM THE AREA AND STAND ON EVERY CORNER ALL NIGHT.
MAKE A MOVE EXEMPT ASS CLOWN U ARE PAID VERY WELL TO THINK!
Six shootings and a couple of beatings last night.
Meanwhile up in Wisconsin lawmakers are rushing a conceal carry bill through..
So nice that Gov. Quinn is protecting the commoners.
Semi OT, but:
"The man was being treated at St. Francis Hospital in Evanston following the attack about 1:30 a.m. in the 2200 block of West Devon Avenue, said Chicago Police News Affairs Officer Robert Perez.
The man, 41, was walking with his wife, 40, and crossed paths with the group of young men and boys on Devon, Perez said. When the couple tried to go around the group, they started harassing the couple, who then tried to walk away, Perez said.
One of the men or boys punched the 41-year-old in the face and he fell to the ground and was injured, Perez said, citing a preliminary police report."
Because of course it was THEIR sidewalk.
This is why I never go out completely unarmed.
Probably an inside job.
I don't see this murder/robbery as part of that wilding
stuff....willing to bet the victim was likely set up by someone he knew, or a regular that he trusted.
People and city officals need to get their heads out of the sand. It is out of control downtiwn
Three things I hate reading in the newspapers:
1) " according to Police News Affairs...."
2) " the 'alleged' suspect is not in custody and police are searching...."
3) " Area detectives are investigating "
Doesnt read as if the Department is so shorthanded, except for a fully staffed News Affairs Office, there hasn't been a steady recruit class or detective promotions in years.
Where are these wildings happening, I live in the area and would like to know the occur. Also the police have the authority to arrest anyone at anytime. I doubt 50, 60 kids can rampage a store and all get away.
)18 is getting to be the highest taxed ghetto shithole in the city! Wait for the taste of shithead food fest coming in July! At least then we will have a real man with balls at the helm McCarthy,unlike the balless clout assholes we have now! Hope he demotes everyone of you lackeys time for change now!
The CPD has to come up with a proactive plan for a response to the flash mob "wildings" in 018, particularly the Magnificent Mile. Unlike most exempts and while I don't know him, we are blessed with an exempt who I understand is one of the well-respected and deserving: Cmdr. Kenneth Angarone, 18th District.
I reside on Beat 1814.
Any suggestions on dealing with "flash mobs"? I believe many, perhaps most emerge from the netherworld also known as the CTA subway station at State and Grand.
tru in 018 tonight assigned to michigan ave.
When are the taxpaying masses in Chicago going to realize that when the sun goes down the animals gravitate downtown to rape and rob and kill.
Door was locked....angry former employee or recent hire?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
speaking of wilding...another bad night down there in 018..more robberies and general meyham...if this keeps up Chicago is in trouble.
5/07/2011 03:27:00 AM
I think all of this talk about "wildings in 001 and 018" are over hyped. I mean, if this was such a huge problem, then why don't we have any videos recorded from smart phones or surveillance from businesses (the cameras that are facing outside and inside). 001 and 018 has more cameras than any other district. So why don't we have any video surveillance of these "wildings"???
There were always a couple of older homeless guys who hung out near that store, but they seemed pretty harmless. I think an ex-employee or someone familiar with his schedule might be more likely.
I was at the Dominicks Store on Division&Clybourn; the male bagger was talking about how he was recovering from being jumped the other night. When in hell are we going to get concealed carry in this crazy state?
When in hell are we going to get concealed carry in this crazy state?
5/07/2011 08:03:00 PM
just do it.
RE: Racial discrimination probe;
Maybe, just maybe the people being arrested and jailed via guilty pleas, bench or jury trials are the ones COMMITING the crimes and the ones not being arrested and jailed AREN'T commiting crimes.
This discrimination BULLSHIT is getting so fucking old, I don't even pay any attention when I hear it anymore.
A lifetime excuse for failure.
When are the taxpaying masses in Chicago going to realize that when the sun goes down the animals gravitate downtown to rape and rob and kill.
5/07/2011 06:23:00 PM
when we stop moving the bodies.
Any suggestions on dealing with "flash mobs"? I believe many, perhaps most emerge from the netherworld also known as the CTA subway station at State and Grand.
5/07/2011 05:13:00 PM
00 buck, no choke.
Who gives a fuck about the wildings. Be the police then. Wildings happens every night in 15 11 10 all the southside districts. Be the police instead of getting numbers at the bars and restruants.
Where are these wildings happening, I live in the area and would like to know the occur. Also the police have the authority to arrest anyone at anytime. I doubt 50, 60 kids can rampage a store and all get away.
5/07/2011 04:15:00 PM
1. Where are these wildings happening, I live in the area and would like to know the occur.
take a walk during the witching hours. alone.
2. Also the police have the authority to arrest anyone at anytime.
surely you jest.
3. I doubt 50, 60 kids can rampage a store and all get away.
there are none so blind as those who will not see.
How about specifics.
5/07/2011 12:14:00 PM
how about leaving the basement once or twice a year?
or at least open a window.
Daley stated on the radio that he needed that guard unit because protection of his family comes first.
5/06/2011 05:46:00 PM
so, spend a few bucks, you cheap prick motherless fucker.
nobody lives forever, what are you saving it for, even if you could take it with you, you can't bribe the devil.
Any suggestions on dealing with "flash mobs"? I believe many, perhaps most emerge from the netherworld also known as the CTA subway station at State and Grand.
5/07/2011 05:13:00 PM
If they arrive on the Red Line, they probably leave on the Red Line. Why not head them off at the pass and grab them with the proceeds?
Well, I'm (obviously?) not in Chicago any more, but I got an inquiry from a Chicago civilian friend asking if a homicide occurred at 1111 N. Dearborn last week. There is no information in the media or on the internet about it, but residents there are freaked out because something happened and nobody knows what it is. Management is waiving rent for one month for residents who inquire, but nobody seems to know anything.
My first thought when I heard this was the "wilding" thing, but there is no way to hide a death entirely in the internet era? Or is there?
WRT: Crystal Ball Unit said ...
Watch out for the wilding... is that better?
5/07/2011 12:23:00 PM
Much better! tnx's
For all you people who would like to know why nothing is being done about the "wildings", just tune into zone4 and listen to what the 3rd watch is doing in 018. You'll never hear anyone go down on a street stop. And God forbid Tact gets an arrest that isn't a pan handler. They have tons of cars and rapid bts. Plus they have foot ppl so they don't get shoplifters. They are a bunch DOG asses and stay down 1hr on parkers until dispatch asks for their status.
The only person you hear out there actually dispersing shit heads is 1800. Now tell me how embarrassing it is when the COMMANDER does more work than anyone else in that district. Check his dispersals and I guarantee no one comes close.
Too many lazy mopes on this job just collecting a paycheck. Reminds me of the whole LINK CARD scam. UN FUCKING BELEIVABLE.
Daley wants a min of 2 pos? 2 pos making an average of let's say $80k/yr. So $160k x 3 watches for round the clock protection? We're now talking about nearly 1/2 Million! Plus his pension? I think this is abuse guys and he should clearly be denied... he can afford $80/month for adt and we'll come out for his bullshit false alarms and give it a 14p. Can't he carry a firearm? Anyone?
o.k JUST happened again. Saturday night. Armani store on 520 N. michigan called 911 with "flash Mob" in store. used those words. about 20 teens were in store some were detained..manager stated that they have been grabbing and running now for a few months. basically mass shoplifting. mall security said its getting out of control between them and watertower place..
maybe because DC Keating and his bosom buddy Mayor Daley have decided to leave the city payroll and will no longer be able to flood CCG with whatever resources they want...these "never caught on tape" wildings are like urban legends which will prompt a continuation of the vastly uneven distribuion of resources to CCG (when compared in size/crime to other areas)
Daley stated on the radio that he needed that guard unit because protection of his family comes first.
And why would that little prick daleys family be more inportant than any other civilians family. Fuck you ya studderin idiot!
When are the taxpaying masses in Chicago going to realize that when the sun goes down the animals gravitate downtown to rape and rob and kill.
It's a toss up... I don't know if I'd rather have the wilding animals, or the liberal tree hugging yuppy?? Hmmmmm
Anonymous Anonymous said...
For all you people who would like to know why nothing is being done about the "wildings", just tune into zone4 and listen to what the 3rd watch is doing in 018. You'll never hear anyone go down on a street stop. And God forbid Tact gets an arrest that isn't a pan handler. They have tons of cars and rapid bts. Plus they have foot ppl so they don't get shoplifters. They are a bunch DOG asses and stay down 1hr on parkers until dispatch asks for their status.
The only person you hear out there actually dispersing shit heads is 1800. Now tell me how embarrassing it is when the COMMANDER does more work than anyone else in that district. Check his dispersals and I guarantee no one comes close.
Too many lazy mopes on this job just collecting a paycheck. Reminds me of the whole LINK CARD scam. UN FUCKING BELEIVABLE.
5/08/2011 01:31:00 AM
So all of a sudden I am supposed to be proactive now right? GFY! I will respond to my assigned calls of service, write parkers and movers.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Where are these wildings happening, I live in the area and would like to know the occur. Also the police have the authority to arrest anyone at anytime. I doubt 50, 60 kids can rampage a store and all get away.
The wildings are happening in mainly the shopping districts of 001 and 018. Mostly Michigan Avenue and I haven't heard it happening on State street. But if we allocate more resources to Michigan Avenue, Water Tower Place, etc.... then obviously they will find other spots.
THE POLICE DO NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ARREST ANYONE AT ANYTIME. If 50 to 60 kids are all walking together and even though we can all sense they are up to no good. There is nothing the police can do about it. A crime has to occur. We used to have tools to end this type of bullshit like disorderly conduct, mob action, etc. but now they were thrown out by the courts.
You doubt that 50 to 60 kids can rampage a store and get away? Call the Armani Exchange, Gap on Michigan and Huron, The Northface, etc...
So why don't we have any video surveillance of these "wildings"???
5/07/2011 07:02:00 PM
WE have them. YOU do not. Do you really think WE would let these get out?
Now if you suckers in the stores want something done, give those tapes to the Media too. They will p[lay well on the 10:00 news.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
For all you people who would like to know why nothing is being done about the "wildings", just tune into zone4 and listen to what the 3rd watch is doing in 018. You'll never hear anyone go down on a street stop. And God forbid Tact gets an arrest that isn't a pan handler. They have tons of cars and rapid bts. Plus they have foot ppl so they don't get shoplifters. They are a bunch DOG asses and stay down 1hr on parkers until dispatch asks for their status.
The only person you hear out there actually dispersing shit heads is 1800. Now tell me how embarrassing it is when the COMMANDER does more work than anyone else in that district. Check his dispersals and I guarantee no one comes close.
Too many lazy mopes on this job just collecting a paycheck. Reminds me of the whole LINK CARD scam. UN FUCKING BELEIVABLE.
5/08/2011 01:31:00 AM
I don't blame the 018 dist coppers one bit... with the exception of 3rd watch bosses, the rest of that place is a mess...the white shirts all talk a whole bunch of crap about EACH OTHER, not to mention the po's. Bunch of politically connected, over-promoted hacks that do not back their people and form cliques with the blue shirts. As far as a commander doing dispersals, THAT IS NOT POLICE WORK. Getting an event # does nothing unless it is a CB#, which HE WON'T GET EITHER because of the political climate. Plenty of other nice districts without the drama...
sigh. it's all over.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Daley wants a min of 2 pos? 2 pos making an average of let's say $80k/yr. So $160k x 3 watches for round the clock protection? We're now talking about nearly 1/2 Million! Plus his pension? I think this is abuse guys and he should clearly be denied... he can afford $80/month for adt and we'll come out for his bullshit false alarms and give it a 14p. Can't he carry a firearm? Anyone?
5/08/2011 01:39:00 AM
The alderman and mayor voted them exempt years ago from the firearm laws,they can all carry for example eddie burke always carries on his ankle (Why does he need very expensive cpd protection?).
By the way the average on his detail base pay is $95,000 + all the overtime+ extra uniform checks+ all the overtime buddy in payroll told me lowest paid on any of the details mayors-burkes-neelys was $115,000 highest was $170,000. More like daley wants 6 coppers per day+the cars assigned to protect his home 24/7 which are not on detached services log but detail from 001 that would be 3 more coppers. Your talking over 1.5 million per year easily! Oh almost forgot the city cars,free insurance-maintenance-free $5.00 a gallon fuel!
Where are these wildings happening, I live in the area and would like to know the occur. Also the police have the authority to arrest anyone at anytime. I doubt 50, 60 kids can rampage a store and all get away.
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You're right. The police are just making all this sh*t up. Carry on.
The wildings in 018 are steadily getting worse. It is moving beyond flash mobs doing retail thefts to mobs just walking around doing as they please and attacking others for no reason. I understand that no one wants to waste time locking up a juvy for disorderly conduct or some other misdemeanor because nothing will come of it other than being stuck babysitting for 6hrs until mama comes to pick jr up. However, someone is eventually going to die. With the warm weather coming up I can only imagine what is going to happen on the beaches and lake paths. There was already an incident a couple of weeks ago of a mob walking down the path randomly attacking people. Still, nothing is happening other than "I'm keeping an eye on them" or "I'm going to let security at Water Tower know."
"....Any suggestions on dealing with "flash mobs"? I believe many, perhaps most emerge from the netherworld also known as the CTA subway station at State and Grand....."
Concentrated o.c. cannisters chucked into the subway. I'd suggest something more permanent but that would be politically incorrect. They need to be retrained in behaving civilly.
I recently posted here; I have a suggestion for the flash mob situation downtown. Each mall entrance will have security and there will be a minimum age requirement to get through the entrance. Anyone underage will need to be accompanied by an adult. This could be used at stores and smaller shops as well. I've lived in the city for a long time and if any of you older guys remember Shoppers Corner which was real close to the Oriental Theater back in the 1960's, the owners followed the patrons around like hawks, always watching.
I would use a napalm flame thrower on a swarm of locusts.
How about specifics.
5/07/2011 12:14:00 PM
how about leaving the basement once or twice a year?
or at least open a window.
5/07/2011 11:31:00 PM
Brilliant response. Now you can understand the lack of support for our pension problem.
Hey Northside, here is a private citizen thinking out of the box. How about you set up at the suspect CTA stations and scan everyone coming OFF the train for weapons BEFORE they are allowed to leave the station for the OUR streets?
@ 9:02 a.m. At least you didn't deny being a dog ass, eventhough you basically said you do the BARE MINIMUM. How about having some fucking pride in what you do? What if that was your loved one that was robbed downtown? Old school coppers who were real police would give a shit about what happened on the beat.
@ 9:08 its called REASONABLE SUSPICION. If you feel a crime is about to be committed, you have all the reason in the world to stop someone. You just gotta know how to write a stupid contact card properly. Field interview conducted in area known for robberies... fill in the rest. No crime needs to be committed.
Money is also given away, in the form of free trinkets:
Freebies
:(
I think all of this talk about "wildings in 001 and 018" are over hyped. I mean, if this was such a huge problem, then why don't we have any videos recorded from smart phones or surveillance from businesses (the cameras that are facing outside and inside). 001 and 018 has more cameras than any other district. So why don't we have any video surveillance of these "wildings"???
5/07/2011 07:02:00 PM
ONE WORD "DALEY"
damn wildlings!
The CPD needs CCG and 018 "solo swarm scouts" on bicycles, particularly during critical hours on Michigan Ave and at the three Red Line stations at Grand, Chicago and Division St.
When sighted, the scout tells the Zone 4 dispatcher "Swarm" and the location(s). Units then converge on the swarm. Also set up 2 prisoner vans cruising Michigan Ave. during those primetime hours.
Legislation in Springfield should also amend "Looting" in ILCS making this offense a Class 4 felony, regardless of the value of the stolen merchandise and/or damage to property.
Any suggestions on dealing with "flash mobs"? I believe many, perhaps most emerge from the netherworld also known as the CTA subway station at State and Grand.
5/07/2011 05:13:00 PM
***** ***** *****
Flamethrowers worked pretty well in C.H.U.D.
Same basic precept as the wilding zombies.
I read "Ill. commission would probe racial discrimination
By AP News
Saturday, May 07, 2011
SPRINGFIELD, Ill. (AP) — Illinois moved one step closer to creating a commission investigating racial discrimination in law enforcement when a Senate committee this week approved creation of a task force.The call for the commission stems from a report that showed blacks are disproportionately incarcerated
Then I read "Where are these wildings happening, I live in the area and would like to know the occur. Also the police have the authority to arrest anyone at anytime. I doubt 50, 60 kids can rampage a store and all get away..
Please, someone define ironic.
The alderman and mayor voted them exempt years ago from the firearm laws,they can all carry for example eddie burke always carries on his ankle (Why does he need very expensive cpd protection?).
By the way the average on his detail base pay is $95,000 + all the overtime+ extra uniform checks+ all the overtime buddy in payroll told me lowest paid on any of the details mayors-burkes-neelys was $115,000 highest was $170,000. More like daley wants 6 coppers per day+the cars assigned to protect his home 24/7 which are not on detached services log but detail from 001 that would be 3 more coppers. Your talking over 1.5 million per year easily! Oh almost forgot the city cars,free insurance-maintenance-free $5.00 a gallon fuel!
5/08/2011 11:06:00 AM
Maybe I missed something, but isn't the UUW law a State Statute? I am pretty sure that an Alderman or Mayor cannot vote exceptions to State Statutes through City Ordinances. In an event I have heard this for years, but I have never seen anything that verifies thatcity officials have license to carry concealed. Can anyone explain?
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