Roadmap Suggestion
From the comment section:
- OK, Garry here is your road map.
1. Eliminate 20 -30 exempt spots. Most of your command staff were over promoted at sergeant. We are totally top heavy. - 2. Hire John Farrell as either the chief of dicks or first deputy. This alone will tie morale to a rocket. Mr. Farrell knows who can and cannot lead, who are and are not the police still.
- 3. Eliminate either TRU or MSF return everybody back to the districts. Downsize the remaining unit into a quick strike, mobile, crime suppression unit. I really like what MSF has done in regards to additional training, schedule etc.
- 4. Eliminate GEU again back to the districts. Same with gun teams, CAGE teams and every other worthless unit we created and depleted patrol.
- 5. Half narcotics, vice, etc. Back to the districts for you too.
- 6. Streamline, the detective division, police officers can do their own burglaries, thefts etc. You might want to restructure violent crimes so that a sergeant and dicks are assigned to a team similar to the way the G works. Both the dicks and the team leads need to be held accountable for the clearance rate as well as timely submission for reports etc.
- 7.Back your front line supervisors, expect them to supervise and enforce a uniform standards, hair standard in addition to motivating their subordinates. Members above the rank of sergeant should support their front line supervision also.
- 8. Be prepared to battle the Cook County States Attorneys Office, you see we have this thing called felony review (FRU). FRU drives investigations, decides what if any charges are going to be approved and the bar for that approval continues to get higher. Your current command staff either will not or cannot get involved in calling FRU on their decisions that directly impact public safety.
- 9. Make tactical teams just that. MAke you r better aggessive officers want to go to tact with enticements such as additional training etc.
- 10. Finally, we have alot, I MEAN ALOT of police officers of all ranks, colors and gender that never had ANY intention of being the police. This was a pay check and nothing more. The officers work and act accordingly. We don't get much out of them. With our manpower shortage the need to identify and motivate these officers. The sense of entitlement is staggering and frightening.
Good Luck
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
201 Comments:
"OK, Garry here is your road map..."
Please add:
11. Make PATROL a desirable place to be.
Patrol shouldn't be regarded as a dumping ground or the lowest rung of the department ladder.
Those officers are the backbone of CPD and should be treated accordingly.
Every "unit" in the department needs to have their role redefined; they exist to support patrol.
- A cop, but no longer in patrol
I agree up and down.
...and get off that Ceasefire "model of future policing." No picnics and midnight basketball with the bangers, sharing the police gym -- unless you want to become as hated and ineffective as the last Superintendent.
Fire the yearlong medical roll riders! We have a ton of them who do nothing but suck up money and are a complete waste of manpower! Fire them, encourage them to leave on their own, but light a fire under their useless asses!!!
The crap about poor uniform standards won't change until the Dept. hires enough Lts. to stop what's currently happening with them. They are basically on a loaner merry-go-round right now. Tonight one is assigned to 019. The next night, he or she is assigned to 005 or 022. It's ridiculous, they are basically working out of the trunks of their cars, and with all this switching up of WCs, it's no wonder that the troops are getting away with wearing just about any fucking thing to work! After being moved around so much, there is simply no continuity of supervision among the WCs. Some don't even do roll calls, they let the watch Sgt. handle it, and you know damn well the Sgt. on the watch isn't going to say a fucking thing most of the time to the repeat slobs. Front line supervision in most districts is simply awful, which is where most of the little problems become bigger ones.
Eliminate exempt positions? Like those do nothing Deputy Chief of Detectives spots that Wysinger and Andrews have held for the past two years? Or Murphy's little protected hidie-hole? Or Marv Shear's?
And what about the Fed exempt positions? Have Climas and Pat Daly bailed out when Weis did, or are they still clinging to their overpaid checks too?
I know Mr. Farrell has a large brown noser club here, but bringing him back isn't going to be the end-all
that they think it is. There is more than enough talent still on the Job today that can help turn things around.
It's time for the CPD to move forward, not back.
100% agree and how about an ordinance that separates law enforcement and politics and frees the superintendent to make decisions of the public safety nature with out aldermen, reverends and mayoral guidance. If you hire some one qualified to run a department let him run it; not one of the fifty morons is qualified to make police decisions.
What about those two exempt cmdr spots in gangs?
Does anyone really think we need two exempts there?
That was a blatant example of waste when the second position was created. If McCarthy sends the gang teams back to the districts, that should eliminate one of the those two positions.
OT..Alvarez blocks probe of her office on Koschman homicide case
http://www.suntimes.com/5183050-417/alvarez-blocks-probe-of-her-office-on-koschman-homicide-case.html
After calling for an investigation of how the Chicago Police Department handled David Koschman’s homicide, Cook County State’s Attorney Anita Alvarez now is blocking county Inspector General Patrick Blanchard from investigating how her office handled the case involving Richard J. “R.J.” Vanecko, a nephew of Mayor Daley and William Daley, President Obama’s chief of staff.
what about the predictive analysis unit?
Farrell back would be awesome. Bring back some other retired guys that Farrell could bring along and restructure the det division and certain areas of patrol.
The way the G works? What??? Come on.
How about meritorious promotions? It's should read that the city can not promote more than 20 % by merit but do not have to promote by merit the full percentage. Secondly, the exempts who make a recommendation for merit have to plead their case why their candidate deserves the promotion to the super. if the super deems that only 5% are worthy of a merit promotion at the time, he will fill the remainder spots with the next officers in numerical order off the promotional list. I believe the exempts have got into the habit of submitting a name for merit just for the sake of submitting a name and not of a officer who deserves it. And for gods sake promote some DETECTIVES! It will be 4yrs this fall since the last class of detectives. Since the city made those officers wait that long, there should be little to no merit promotions for the next class.
I agree some of these units could be downsized, but the following is why they wont:
with msf, tru and geu u have what im guessing to be over 1000 officers(like I said just a guess)
These officers give up many contractual rights to be in said units. Hours can be changed, districts, days off etc. what boss in their right mind is going to give up that amount of manpower that they are allowed to do with as they please to answer radio calls. News flash, the more calls that are answered the more crime that is reported. 2-3 hour back logs allow for people to decide it isnt that important and presto crime disappears. No one at the top give a shit that it affects your time due options or your lunch. And they seemed to stop caring about our safety along time ago. So bottom line watch each others back, quit the internal bickering and act like adults with some personal pride in your jobs. If people spent a little less time bitching about what other people attained(and I kno many people dont get there by merit, but thats everywhere not just pd) and more time focused on our work ethic mayb we could take back our city from these shit bags. Just a thought.
Man, it really sounds like a district street sgt. wrote this post. You couldn't imagine how well some of those teams do in GEU, GIU, Narcotics, and gun teams. Alot of these coppers are great at what they do.......get guns. Every gun that gets taken off the street is potentially preventing numerous homicides. Most of these guys are real go-getters and Sending these guys back to districts would be a waste of talent. Don't get me wrong, beat coppers are some of the hardest working cops out there. They deal with a whole lot of bullshit therefore most are hard to keep motivated.
Get rid of full time SWAT and go back to part time HBT.
Who are brain dead morons that want to get rid of units? Oh yeah its beat cops that want 3 lunches. Hey don't get me wrong, there are to many people in these units but don't cast everyone in the same pile. Their are guys in these units doing great work. Work that just can't be done in a beat car
Who died and made you God?? Just because your lazy ass is not in a unit or your too fucking stupid to pass a test dont judge everyone else... Your surely one of the bitter do nothings/everyone owes me something asswipes on this job... There are a lot of great coppers in patrol who never got the chance to work in a unit who deserve that chance... There are plenty of dogs in units who need to get checked and get out as well..but to sat disband this or that is not totally logical. I agree to disband either tru or msf...they essentially preform the same function, trim down geu and keep the officers who are and have been producing..this unit does a lot of good work and we need a gang unit period...furthermore this unit should be aligned with either narcotics and or gang investigations... Why 3 seoerate units essentially going after gangs?? Farrell is a great idea for 1st deputy or some other high level command...the man is highly respected amd his street knowledge is incredible. Equipment is a must...there are still units in this department who have not gotten computers!!! Why?? Radios need to be upgraded as well... Carbine program needs to move forward.
> Finally, we have alot, I MEAN ALOT of police officers of all ranks, colors and gender that never had ANY intention of being the police. This was a pay check and nothing more <
My only response to this would be:
We have alot, I MEAN ALOT of police officers of all ranks, colors and gender that had EVERY intention of being the police. Except they found out that the feds, state, county, city, judges, bosses and media don't have their backs. In fact the opposite is true. So the only sensible option is to stop working. If you are out there pro-active policing in the modern enviornment you're a fool who is asking for trouble
I would add that we need to have police officers at the desk and not civilians as was suggested. At least 3 officers at that.
I agree with most of your ideas. However, I've spent time in MSF, TRU, and GEU. MSF and TRU are a different beast than GEU. If anything, you can scrap TRU, they don't do anything now that they can't do in a district (tickets, tows, etc., plus they are already in uniform). MSF has their stuff together, and has a more focused approach- and they take things more seriously. GEU is bloated with officers who are there only to benefit themselves, not to function as part of team or unit. trim 50 from the unit (10 from each area). But DON'T go by seniority. Many of the officers doing what they are supposd to do (C.I.'s/warrants, etc) are younger guys, and units are not subject to bid/seniority. Leave it up to the seargent's, each sgt pick 1 or 2 guys that they will send back to hedistrict. But keep GEU in OCD, the use of 1505 funds is huge, as is the ability to register C.I.'s. Just my 2 cents.
•10. Finally, we have alot, I MEAN ALOT of police officers of all ranks, colors and gender that never had ANY intention of being the police. This was a pay check and nothing more. The officers work and act accordingly. We don't get much out of them. With our manpower shortage the need to identify and motivate these officers. The sense of entitlement is staggering and frightening.
RE:
Very true, especially Area 2 districts.
Puts a lump in my throat to hear it put out that clearly, great ideas all.
Well said..
Wow you said it all and very true, H. Bone. 016th dist.
Must be a msf officer! Dump everyone but msf? Geu and tru both have done additional training also. msf was jodies baby so they got a little extra. What you forgot to mention was fight to hire alot more officers! We need bodies on the street asap. If the bulls go to the championship we will be in alot of trouble.
I work in MSF and am taking advantage of the schedule. Having said that, MSF and TRU should be disbanded or combined. And then punch it down to maybe 100(?) cops. It's good to have a unit that can be "audible'd" all over the place but guess how many times that happens. Maybe five times since I've been there. Usually we just get sent to a district and told "do what you do".
Oh and I love the stats game they play. At MSF I get an awkward round of applause if I, say, got a gun the night before at roll call the next day. When I worked the district no one gave a damn, and you didn't want to tell anyone, because no cop needs applause from other cops. Just give me that honorable to impress the old lady. Or don't, but I like to get them to look better to the jury when the next lawsuit comes down.
But MSF got the "stats", yo. I know, the logical MSF cops know, in our heart of hearts, MSF pin securely secured to my vest, we would be better off in he front lines with the beat cop. Then we can distribute our "stats" all over the city. Maybe we could even make 022, 016, 013, 019, wherever the normal people sleep an ounce safer.
When the newest company of MSF cops were being interviewed, they were handed a sheet of paper that detailed a mission statement: "what is MSF ". I don't remember exactly what I read, but I do recall it saying that MSF goes to the scary bad places to alleviate the backlog by "answering calls for service" if necessary. What a load of bullshit.
If I took a call I'm pretty sure my "team" would try to put me in the trunk. We might not think we're "elite", but MSF certainly carries an elitist attitude when it comes to that radio. It won't change if it remains intact, the bosses are of the same better-than-the-radio attitude. How about we send the MSF cops out to the districts to act as rapid response style units. Answer calls in the most backlogged districts.
Until they hire a couple THOUSAND more cops, the CPD can't support large manpower units like MSF and TRU. The best idea I can come up with is to send 'em all back, get some rapids up in the districts and designate two or three rapids as incident cars. Got lots of shootings or intelligence in a specific area in 007? Send the incident cars from 006 and 008 to see if they can hold it down. Be fluid, overhaul our ridiculous zone radio system, back us up, and we might have a chance.
Got it....thanks. Anything else?
CLOUT ruined the CPD.
We work in a job where who you know, blow or are related to means more than job knowledge, skill and accomplishment. The fruits of this failed policy are clear for all to see.
At St. Jude I marched past an officer who had finished and was watching the parade. He wore six rows of ribbons and three medals but had not been promoted. I see bosses all the time proudly wearing the ribbons given to all and none earned individually. I suspect they were hidden away in spots most of their career.
This organization will colapse under it's own weight if this is allowed to continue.
If Gerry implodes TRU, there's not enough room in 018 for all the disaffected. Maybe create an "elite" city-wide MSF Entertainment Detail pontoon to make room? Thinking outside the box here...
Stupid. same ol shit from people that think they know, but dont know shit .
one example, GEU, TRU and MSF can be moved anywhere in the city, put on any shift etc. basically skirt contactual rights of officers; so how does the departemnet benefit by getting rid of these spots and putting them in less flexible positions?
this man doesnt need our opinion on how to run a department. he's been around the block. he'll figure it out. or not.
3. Eliminate either TRU or MSF return everybody back to the districts. Downsize the remaining unit into a quick strike, mobile, crime suppression unit. I really like what MSF has done in regards to additional training, schedule etc.
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MSF had a plan of training that the entire department was to copy district by district. More training for officers to be able to respond effectively anytime in any part of the city.
Now Georgass has eliminated the capability of the one unit that existed to respond to critical incidents. That means no gas unit capability, no continued training on perishable skills for crowd control, active shooter and the like.
And he has done that just in time for a possible Bulls championship in the home town of the President of the United States with a newly elected Jewish mayor with ties to Israel, and on the heels of the killing of Bin Laden.
REAL bright move. And he sent himself to Israel for security training. Is that what they taught there? To eliminate your resources when you might most need them? But don't worry. You can train people in a couple of days. It's all good.
Couldn't agree more about the Gun, Cage, and GE Teams. Worthless? No. But they are only doing the jobs that Tact Teams were meant to do. Get the Tact Teams up and running the way they were meant to and the other teams are now worthless. Come to think of it, I agree with the whole list. Number 10 is a dream though. Absolutely no way to do it with out shredding the contract.
Who are brain dead morons that want to get rid of units? Oh yeah its beat cops that want 3 lunches. Hey don't get me wrong, there are to many people in these units but don't cast everyone in the same pile. Their are guys in these units doing great work. Work that just can't be done in a beat car
Hey asshole, I'd be happy with one fucking lunch, even if it wasn't the 90 minutes 3-course meal you manage in a clean non-ghetto restaurant.
And for your information, you can do any work in a patrol car - if you have the time running between job after job putting out fires. In fact, under NYPD's "broken window" theory, manning patrol will end up preventing bigger crimes, leading to smaller units.
Don't be scared of patrol little baby hair-gel, sounds like you might be headed back there soon anyway
Good Start, I say get rid of Steve Georgas!
•6. Streamline, the detective division, police officers can do their own burglaries, thefts etc.
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Hey dumbfuck, patrol neither has the time nor inclination to attempt to hold themselves down "investigating" property crimes. This ain't podunk Iowa where we get 1 or 2 calls a week.
Where the fuck do YOU work?
Anonymous said...
Fire the yearlong medical roll riders! We have a ton of them who do nothing but suck up money and are a complete waste of manpower! Fire them, encourage them to leave on their own, but light a fire under their useless asses!!!
5/05/2011 12:25:00 AM
I had two surgeries to repair IOD injuries, total of 5 months on the medical; several years later I was diagnosed with a brain tumor. That was months more on the medical, I am still here, the surgery saved my life.
Thank God for our medical for it saved me and my family from bankruptcy. My only alternative would have been to sell our house and drain deferred comp.
I don't want to lose this benefit because some people want to steal and sit home or go do side jobs on the medical.
I would gladly work in any investigative unit to catch abusers. I think abusers should be prosecuted criminally.
That would go far in cutting medical roll abuse, a few going to jail would send a clear message.
Typically, instead of cracking down on the worst abusers the department treats us all like thieves and blames us all for their own failure to enforce their own policies.
#10 IS HUGE. When I came on this job 25yrs ago just about every copper was the police. Even the one's that appeared not to be the police new how to be one when the time called for it. What was the norm before is now considered "real police" work.
There are a lot of people on this job now that have no idea how to be the police and could care less.
At times, though, I cant blame them.
SAD.
OT--
I'm in the Street Crimes class at the Academy and encourage everyone to go if they can. A tune-up of a lot of what you know never hurts. Taught by Pat McCarthy, CPD retired 10 years. At least it's entertaining and he's pretty funny!
OT again--
There is a guy in the Street Crimes class with dreads--aren't those banned?
He looks like a Bahama bartender, not a cop. Don't know his assignment. Just sayin'
10. Finally, we have alot, I MEAN ALOT of police officers of all ranks, colors and gender that never had ANY intention of being the police. This was a pay check and nothing more. The officers work and act accordingly. We don't get much out of them. With our manpower shortage the need to identify and motivate these officers. The sense of entitlement is staggering and frightening.
you are such a self righteous dick head
How about the tons of coppers assigned to the academy. For what??? Also, we don't need Picardi, Klimas, Daly, etc.
@148am RE:" very true in A/2 districts " how about the diffence in call valume, extremely low man power (FYI) we don't have a waggon up most of the time on 3rd watch. How about they have 2 or 3 beat cars down on fixed post to keep them from killing each other, so now u have one beat car covering 2 or 3 beats .So how about most Officers are tired and burned out. I'm sorry in A/2 we don't have time to go on dates and play games while at work I have to hold my job to go to the restroom and or get food. Please give me a break everybody is not lazy after 15-20 calls for service in the colder months who has time or the energy to be proactive.
Sneed reports Daley wants officers and cars after he leaves office. Is there any other City that supplies such security? Does Guiliani from NYC get any?
Who are brain dead morons that want to get rid of units? Oh yeah its beat cops that want 3 lunches. Hey don't get me wrong, there are to many people in these units but don't cast everyone in the same pile. Their are guys in these units doing great work. Work that just can't be done in a beat car
5/05/2011 01:19:00 AM
3 lunches? I get ONE 1/2 hour lunch if I get to take it at all. Unit guys talking about a beat cop's lunch is beyond funny. I doubt you could name a single unit or tact team that doesn't make lunch their most important priority of the tour and doesn't spend at least 1 1/2 hours on it. The beat cop has to answer calls as they come and doesn't get to call for a "paper car" because he IS THE PAPER CAR. So we don't get to sit around on a two hour lunch to watch a game on ESPN. As far as work that can't be done in a beat car... please give us an example because it's all been done in a beat car and then some.
Amen SCC. Amen. You hit the nail on the head. I could not have hoped to say it better.
Future Supe...listen up!
Farrell back would be awesome. Bring back some other retired guys that Farrell could bring along and restructure the det division and certain areas of patrol.
Farrell works for Fop now. Where you been?
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Sneed has learned Mayor Daley is requesting a retinue of at least three — around the clock — Chicago Police bodyguards from his mayoral security detail to accompany him into the private sector!
† Sneed also hears whispers Mayor Daley, who retires May 16, wants two vehicles at his disposal; one for himself — and one for his wife, Maggie
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This may be a start
Dusting & Cleaning? Incoming Chicago Police Supt. Garry McCarthy, who has yet to be approved by the City Council, has asked for the resumes of all top cop command staff — and wants pictures accompanying the resumes? Huh
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"You couldn't imagine how well some of those teams do in GEU, GIU, Narcotics, and gun teams. Alot of these coppers are great at what they do.......get guns"
-----------------------------------Great if they take guns from shitheads, armed robbers, bangers....Dont take them from old people carrying for protection.
We dont need overzealous gun enforcement on decent, sober, clean living citizens with a pocket pistol.
Two words.....
Pat Schemar.
I think it has been already posted that he and Garry are close friends, so expect it to happen.
Nobody has anything bad to say about Schmear, he has worked in all the right placed too. The Deuce (when it was the "Deuce"), the Third Herd, Fightin 15, Fillmore (the REAL Fillmore), Garcia Ridge, and Da Wood.
He has been to them all - and everyone I have ever spoken to loved him.
Anonymous said...
... If people spent a little less time bitching about what other people attained (and I know many people dont get there by merit, but thats everywhere not just pd) and more time focused on our work ethic, maybe we could take back our city from these shit bags. Just a thought.
5/05/2011 12:56:00 AM
... and a good thought it is...
... but I fear a generation or two of police officers may now be in place that didn't learn the "work ethic" and cannot be the old school police (through no fault of their own), because the cowardly liberals didn't want their police to be "too rough".
You know, the same pussies who don't like that bin Laden was killed without a fair "duel" on the street.
You see it here all the time... the people will get the criminal environment in their neighborhoods that they will accept, and nothing more. Without the support of the community, NOTHING will change. If they see some pos get slapped by a copper, he probably deserves it and if YOU are not the pos, then mind your own business and let the nice policeman clean up your neighborhood for you. If you beef or videotape and complain, you can expect that YOU will be handling your own problems in the future... in fact, we may be at that point already. Cops, on the whole are a pretty sharp group of people and once they see what happens to a guy like Bill Cozzi, they learn quickly that it is easier to do NOTHING than to endanger their freedom by doing what is right.
We have alot, I MEAN ALOT of police officers of all ranks, colors and gender that had EVERY intention of being the police. Except they found out that the feds, state, county, city, judges, bosses and media don't have their backs. In fact the opposite is true. So the only sensible option is to stop working. If you are out there pro-active policing in the modern enviornment you're a fool who is asking for trouble
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AMEN! Could not have said it better myself. Cameras, Rule #14, Newly trained Hair Gels, Scared Bosses.......This department will fuck you in a heartbeat, it is not worth it anymore. Its what the Libtards wanted and they got.
#1 PRIORITY .....make sure you and your partner go home every night...#2 any hot calls involving officers make sure you back them up......#3 oh yeah, AND COLLECT YOUR PAYCHECK ON THE 1st and 16th, and make sure you don't let this Department F*ck u and Cozzi you.
191 Intel Cmdr Meahler says -GO BULLS!!!
HE HAS NO CLUE AND CAN'T STOP THE WILDINGS ON MICH AND OAK ST!
A PO hater with no credentials other than Blago Clout who thinks he is better than all the blue shirts
Yep X2! Also get all the daytime dollies on the street, with less than 10 years on the street working inside 9-5 off weekends that bullshit must stop. Also why have all the unmarked detective cars? They should all be marked units would show more police presence,why do they need unmarked cars? Not like they are undercover,as a matter of fact since they work so much special and have uniforms put them all in uniform more police on the street appearance.
Like SCC suggested from the "working police" comment section make put more coppers back in the districts sir. When i came on we always had 3 wagons,most 2 man cars,all cars manned,bigger tact teams,district mission teams,etc.. These were all under the control of COMMANDERS not the bullshit waste of a check district managers spots. "just do it" respect is earned not granted!
I have to disagree with about half the suggestions. The one I agree with most is #1. The dept is top heavy and then some. #10 should be #1. The patrol division has more deadweight than workers. MSF or TRU has to go. The dept doesn't need both. We don't need to overload the districts with officers again. The more guys wearing uniforms the easier it s for the do nothings to do even less. The day of the district has gone and past. Units are a good thing as long as they are WORKING!!!! Sure Vice and Narcotics should be combined. Sure you could dump half of GEU and put the rest in Gang Investigations. That doesn't mean put a bunch of guys back in jeans and t shirts in the dist locking up all the local piss bums every day for their head. We don't need to go back to officers being tied to the radio. That is counterproductive.
Accountability.
If you are in a unit, tac team, 06 car, management spot - produce... or we will find someone who will.
Supervisors - uphold the uniform standards, don't wave off the red lines, keep track of your cars, but the most important... BE A SUPERVISOR and not a friend.
I hate how you are always first with the good ideas. Can you just email me before you post? How should I structure this list for our contract negotiations? FOP Pres. Michael K. Shields
Nicely summarized.
---not a cop
I was a very hard working and dedicated Police Officer once. And I didnt want anything more than to be left alone.
However crap supervisors with incredibly big ego's ran me off. Now I show up, write 5 parkers and answer my calls. How do you motivate me? By threatening me? Taking me off my car? Go ahead, I am already in relief and bounce like crazy.
Give us a decent contract, back the Police and dont kiss the pretend reverends ass. Be nice and make work fun, and you wont have to ask. It will fall at your feet!
And good riddance to the most corrupt mayor of all time. I like how the city workers have to wait up to 2 months to receive their first pension check. Old stuttering mumbles daley wans it right away. What an asshole!
Three more suggestions...
1 ~ A couple decades ago, the city spent millions on a study of our CPD. It was called the Booz Allen Report. Department members in EVERY job title and pay grade and from every corner of every Division, District, Unit, Section and team were studied and interviewed as well as the work they produced and the overall value of the manpower assignments. The study was VERY thorough and concise. Though, of course, there were some things that they simply couldn't quantify, overall, many excellent recommendations came out of it. One that Daley seems to have dismissed outright, was doing away with upper management and giving more authority, and responsibility and decision making to the front line troops and the Sergeants that supervise them.
Anyway, I'm sure some of the stuff is outdated, but it wouldn't hurt to read through it once while you're sitting in the Chicago Police Academy earning your Peace Officer status as you said you intend to do.
2 ~ This blog, SCC, is not your enemy. I have, at times, found VERY insightful information and suggestions here (though, admittedly, probably 80% to 90% is blah-blah-blah). In fact, if you want a good read of what lies ahead for you, slide down the page and read the posts in the right hand column titled "PROBLEMS FACING THE DEPARTMENT". Every new job should have such a list for you to see where the work needs to be done.
3 ~ I wouldn't put too much stock in the crybabies whining about you not wearing OUR uniform. It WAS a big deal with the last guy who was never trained to be the police, but YOU HAVE. Just sayin.
I know Mr. Farrell has a large brown noser club here, but bringing him back isn't going to be the end-all
that they think it is. There is more than enough talent still on the Job today that can help turn things around.
It's time for the CPD to move forward, not back.
5/05/2011 12:34:00 AM
Please, oh wise one, impart your wisdom and let us know whom you think, in the current exempt ranks, has enough talent to help turn things around?
Open your eyes you goof! The current exempt ranks are nothing but akin to a clown car full of incompetents! And don't point to the young Tom Byrne. He is to Grau as Grau was to Cline. He is a pampered pet. Yes, he is personable, but he has no reason not to be as he has been pampered his entire career. He is all smiles, but the suit is vacant.
And don't point to Captain Kup. Another personable incompetent. Or the other two finalsists, both a joke! One attached to the rev'runs and the other an educated dope with no management skills. No, we need a guy who knows his stuff to help McCarthy get us on the right path. John Farrell is that guy. Sometimes the answer is not right in front of you, which means you have to turn around to see the best solution.
Here's an idea ... have all cops become youth qulaified, then make all the youth dicks either RBT or HGS
I agree to a point with letting patrol handle thefts and burglaries, to a point. There would arise a problem when that burglary has to be followed up w/ submission of fingerprints. Also, if a burglary pinch is made there are times when some things cannot be completed until the following day: locating a victim/ witness to interview, retrieving video. Sometimes the proceeds have to be recovered too, and they may be far away. Not sure you can make a blanket rule to remove dicks from this process. But I do see your point, sometimes thefts/burglaries, even robberies, shootings and homicides, are so straightforward that patrol can handle it all, just not all the time. And yes, I said homicides. An investigation is an investigation. They are all the same.
"At St. Jude I marched past an officer who had finished and was watching the parade. He wore six rows of ribbons and three medals but had not been promoted."
Some of us actually like pushing a beat car. It's why we came on CPD. We have no desire to be promoted.
Just another person who believes that sending everyone back to the districts is the answer, sorry kid but it ain't. The district problem could be solved by hiring more police and dog asses not staying down on jobs or that "un-avoidable" traffic stop etc etc. Number six is one of the dumbest ideas but number seven should be a priority. Also I love the "Ok, Gary here is your road map" attitude, I'm sure thats gotten you far in your career.
In todays sneeds column article about how McCarthy is requesting resumes from the bosses along with a picture and sneed wonders why. Maybe sneed the new boss wants to see the out of shape command staff? Why also in her column is daley getting a police detail 24/7 and 2 city paid cars? Dosen't daley have enough cash from all the money he stole? Hey Rich you gave your former bodyguard detail SMG group multi-million dollar contracts do you think maybe they could repay the favor instead of cash in the envelope maybe a free detail?
5/05/2011 02:34:00 AM
Anonymous said...
CLOUT ruined the CPD.
We work in a job where who you know, blow or are related to means more than job knowledge, skill and accomplishment. The fruits of this failed policy are clear for all to see.
At St. Jude I marched past an officer who had finished and was watching the parade. He wore six rows of ribbons and three medals but had not been promoted. I see bosses all the time proudly wearing the ribbons given to all and none earned individually. I suspect they were hidden away in spots most of their career.
This organization will colapse under it's own weight if this is allowed to continue.
5/05/2011 02:40:00 AM
But remember, the "fancy stuff on the uniform" is not a true representation of an officer's accomplishments or efforts. There are ALOT of guys who do not have six rows of medals on their chest simply because they are not in units or they work for crappy bosses who fail to put them in for award's or write them up honorable mentions etc etc. I have my fair share of awards but I, as alot of us, have been shafted by self serving bosses who don't feel the need to take care of the troops.
The clout heavy already work in units run by clout heavy bossess and all are ready to step up to the award line and get theirs to show off all that THEY have supposedly done. Kind of like "money goes to money" clout (and awards) goes to clout.
Eliminate exempt positions? Like those do nothing Deputy Chief of Detectives spots that Wysinger and Andrews have held for the past two years? Or Murphy's little protected hidie-hole? Or Marv Shear's?
And what about the Fed exempt positions? Have Climas and Pat Daly bailed out when Weis did, or are they still clinging to their overpaid checks too?
5/05/2011 12:32:00 AM
AMEN!!!!!! that is just the start!
The first 3 months will set the tempo for his tenure. Most important will be those he chooses as his inner circle. Weis doomed himself immediately with his purge and the vacuum it created never was filled properly. All we want to do is get back to being policeman, nothing more. Patrol is THE most important aspect of policing. Give patrol the bodies it needs and you will see immediate results.I have an enormous amount of faith in Supe McCarthy and wish him the best in his new job.
This would be a first! How about an actually honest promotional test!
Where they would give you your score as you left the room and published the results the next day. Where those who actually passed the test would get promoted.
In the order they passsed the trst. No matter what their color or sex.
Nahh, forget it. That will never happen.
Who are brain dead morons that want to get rid of units? Oh yeah its beat cops that want 3 lunches. Hey don't get me wrong, there are to many people in these units but don't cast everyone in the same pile. Their are guys in these units doing great work. Work that just can't be done in a beat car
5/05/2011 01:19:00 AM
Dear Douche,
I would just like to be able to take "A" lunch. It would seem you are the one casting everyone into the same boat. And is it patrol you see 4-5 cars deep burning up a lunch location for 45+ minutes? Didn't think so. And any good officer can do the work you do "from a beat car". Here's some tissue to stop that nosebleed from your high horse, Commando.
there are a lot of bosses of all races, genders, etc... who are on this job for just a paycheck--- they never had any intention of doing anything except being an ass kisser and sucking their way up the ladder--- then they make lieutenant and are made watch commander and are clueless and dangerous because they never did shit on this job.....
All this was caused by DALEY! Couldn't afford to hire more officers but has plenty of money to reward all his inner circle "crew!" The Flim Flam Mayor!No one ever gets indicted, no one ever goes to jail! Daley just rides off into the sunset! "Happy Trails all you suckers!"
I disagree that tact teams should only be that. in slower districts such as 12, 13, 16. Tact usually picks and chooses their arrests, and once they bring in a drinker They call it "adios amigos". I call it a waste of manpower. As far as having 3 p/o's at the desk, that's also a waste. Keep it at 2 and if it gets busy all you got to say is "I'll be with you in a moment."
Start with a clean sheet of paper.
Add 25 district commanders.
Divide available manpower by 25.
Place manpower in districts.
Give district commanders the resources to control crime in their districts and hold them accountable for crime conditions.
Only create additional units if absolutely necessary.
How about hire more police officers and put them in patrol!
"10. Finally, we have alot, I MEAN ALOT of police officers of all ranks, colors and gender that never had ANY intention of being the police. This was a pay check and nothing more. The officers work and act accordingly. We don't get much out of them. With our manpower shortage the need to identify and motivate these officers. The sense of entitlement is staggering and frightening."
Big time issue throughout the public sector employees today.
Just look at teacher tenure, etc.
half the narcotics unit?haha thats a good one.two words why it will never happen...ASSET FORFEITURE
require everyone to swipe in and out , maybe then the favorites will have to work a full tour
dock the pay of officers that are ten minutes late everyday
it makes me sick to arrive on time everyday , the watch commander starts roll call 5 - 10 min late and his favorites still walk in half dressed and nothing is done about it
dock their pay and maybe officers will work a full tour
How about no field training in 001 or 018 if the primadonnas can't handle the real street now, they never will.
get rid of mass transit , let the cta hire private security , what do they do lock up a smoker or drinker , probably work a total of 3 hrs a day , put gps in their radios , do nothing clout heavy unit , make districts check cta buses and l stations
Limit felony review to certain crimes like Murder, treason, arson, piracy etc. Think of the money saved by the County. Anita the "Latin Queen" could assign all the night school ASAs to trial courts and the police can do their own felony approvals like they did prior to 1974. There is no law that states you have to have Felony approval.
25,583 Burglaries in the past 12 months.
We can free up alot of cars by having citizens make the report over the phone and dispatching a ET.
How many "forced door open, found items missing" can a beat copper do. Phone this stuff in.
PS growing my goatee back...
It's real simple. Do we want more coppers in beat cars so more jobs can be handled (ie rd#'s generated) or do we want more cb#'s generated? More rd#'s means more crime reported and they don't want that.
You must be a supervisor. You forgot why there are so many "dog-asses" in the first place, you put a lot of emphasis on front line supervisors, you know, the ones who make sure us "dog-asses" are in proper uniform. You must also be a little heavy, minimum time on the job for your stripes, obviously you never got hurt and had to take time off. It's your department, boss, that forces sometimes badly injured officers to take more time than reasonable just to be seen by a doctor. Not everyone likes to be in patrol, but like most we don't have a phonecall to get to a unit (that you think should get axed) or to wear a whiteshirt like you. And as long as there are supervisors like you, pitting the haves and have nots against each other, or the "Im better, and look better, and do so much and everyone else is shit" attitude, there will always be a sense of hopelessness from the poor bastards that can expect nothing more than a paycheck, and a front line shoe shine checker lurking around the corner. I hope you dont go any higher - signed, a nobody
They break down TRU or MSF, those officers will end going to 018 district entertainment.
Fire them, encourage them to leave on their own, but light a fire under their useless asses!!!
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as they say, break a leg.. in your case better hope not. I hate to say it, you'll see someday, when you least expect it and when you probably have kids and a mortgage. Then some guy like you will run off at the mouth about things like this, but of course by then your attitude will have changed. Sometimes it's a good idea not to worry about other peoples state of health, unless it's friends or family. Did you ever call a police officer on the medical to see how they are doing?
Quite frankly, I agree with most of what this poster is saying.
MSF is more focused than TRU or GIU, stop drinking the poison kool aid.
All three of these units have the same problems as districts. Supervision is lax. Sgts need to be sgts, stop treating people like 3yr olds instead of adutls.
Combine TRU and MSF, no matter what anyone says you need a citywide large response team, especially this summer. Between the two units there are about 400 p/os. Take 100 and put them in the 5 worst districts as response teams, ten hour days, 3rd watch.
The rest divide up into 5 companies, deploying them using current crime conditions, not because some deputy chief has his head up a reverends ass and more worried about the revs agenda than officer safety.
i like the comment that said during my interview of msf they handed me a document then he goes off to talk bad about msf what a joke dont be upset because you didnt make the cut you baby msf can be downsized but for the most part we do help out a lot what hurts us is we dont get the back of the the districts we patrol from the inside if we go in with something we get treated like shit give me a break we are hard workers that wear the same uniform as anyone else and my god are far from having an elitist attitude we work in packs to stop larger crowds and give the districts more presence of police power .. msf is a good unit with good bosses and great workers. i will never down talk my fellow officers we go to work in the end to do the same job.
i totally agree with you....you forgot all the do nothing tact teams in 001....a total of 7 tact teams, and some of the teams on days...have over 20 people assigned to them...what a joke!!..it has always been a political "take care of spot"...THEY DO NOTHING BUT RIDE AROUND...you could free up at least 60 P.O.'S...just saying.....
•2. Hire John Farrell as either the chief of dicks or first deputy. This alone will tie morale to a rocket. Mr. Farrell knows who can and cannot lead, who are and are not the police still.
John Farrel is the best, and if you get in shit you want him on your side.
Chief of dicks is a stretch, he takes way to good care of his people. THis is not a bad thing, but he ends up doing their job for them, and as coppers do they took advantage of him.
He is a perfect fit in the FOP. You looking for someone in the detecitve division to step up, look to Tony Wojcik in area 4.
The underlying problem with all districts and units, is weak supervison and no accountability. We have way to many spoiled brats on this job, this includes all ranks.
Make up your mind. The FOP brings Farrel back and they are wrong, yet you want to make him Chief of Detectives. There is a reason Farrel was never an exempt.
ELIMINATE Felony Review. There's no need for it.
Check out our new Superintendent at:http://www.sundancechannel.com/brick-city/profiles/garry-mccarthy/?view=gallery
Who are brain dead morons that want to get rid of units? Oh yeah its beat cops that want 3 lunches. Hey don't get me wrong, there are to many people in these units but don't cast everyone in the same pile. Their are guys in these units doing great work. Work that just can't be done in a beat car
5/05/2011 01:19:00 AM
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THREE lunches? Oh, you mean three lunches a WEEK.
It's obvious you've been, shall we say, out of the loop for a while. Like, your whole career.
Maybe if you and the Hundreds of other of special-unit scholarships were out in patrol, EVERYBODY could get a lunch, every tour. Instead of just you.
SCC,
I originally wrote the comment that started this thread. check the IP address. Forgot to mention my last thought ot two.
11. The crime lab and E.T.s.. you guessed it back to patrol. Too many kids coming out of college with forensic degrees that will work cheaper and better than the people we have now. Most police depatments are using civiliams for crime scene processing. we should too.
12. Sorry I am not a sergeant. But I am on the list. I'm in a unit.
Garry, want more ? Make a round of promotions and I will give the Rand McNally version and introduce myself.
Dear Supt,
I have worked predominantly in Northside Areas since making detective, so I will speak about what I know from my experience.
Get rid of these brain dead Sgt's and Lt's. who know less about Police work, and more about clutching on to their job with their cold dead fingers! They were likely promoted on at least one meritorious pick, and since you cannot bid to work at an area as a Supervisor, it is reasonable to assume that we do not have the best. They came to their workspot as a favor from some other clout baby. It is time for a shakeup here! Purge at will Sir...
Deputy Chiefs A.W., and D.A.? Never met Em...
Area Commanders? Would recognize their face if I saw Em...
Manpower here is beyond ridiculously low...Get real here. A few years ago the Dept. Made all youth investigators detectives. (smoke & mirrors) There have been 1 or 2 classes to make up for the flood of retirements here since.
Please feel free to use the purge button freely here! Several times if necessary...A rotation of the current command staff throughout the detective Division would not only better crosstrain these individuals in current Law Enforcement teqniques but make us stronger to see that there are no prima donnas here...
dear scc: there is one important link that has been missed: too many calls for service. Jr. wont go to school. Jr and his sister cant get along, my neighbor put his garbage can on my side and his dog poops on my lawn. I need a ride, give me a jump, my neighbor has 5 cars and doesnt have a city sticker and takes up all the parking spaces. Schools that call for reports but dont have any one locked up...... I can go on but we all know the picture. The daley admin made the public call the police for everything and created a customer service desk as long and as wide as our great city. Time to cinch the belt, expand 311 and start telling people no.
I agree with most of what you said...EXCEPT..
John Farrell is not a savior...he should still be lumped with all the other retirees...RETIRED!!!There are enough active supervisors to fill these spots...If you do that,you are just as guilty af patronage as the guys you criticize on a Daily Basis.
Stop bashing all of the current Exempts(Depts,Commanders),I've got over 20 years on the job, and alot of the old bosses..needed guidance and used patronage (Remember Lt.Test/Oral answer--"NOTIFY THE WATCH COMMANDER".Use the blog as a positive tool,these young P.O's read this negative stuff and it influences their work ethic!!!
This medical abuse and reinstatement after getting fired has killed the dept.These instances promote low morale and encourage laziness...they are repeat abusers,work part-time jobs, and special employment when they ARE NOT INJURED..LOL Commanders,WC's,Sgt's are wasting their time disciplining these hacks..if they consistently get bailed out!!!
Signed Current Supervisor in 007
Gary said...
Got it....thanks. Anything else?
5/05/2011 02:34:00 AM
get some sleep.
you'll need it.
I was just reading the scumtimes that was left at the table where I was eating this morning. Snead claims that the new boss wants the resume of EVERY command staff person & a picture to go along with the person. I was also on the phone with a friend that works at HQ and he said that the boss also wants to know how each person scored on every promotional test that they took & if the promotion that they got was in ranked order or by merit.
If this is true time will tell just how he feels about these clout babbies that are in charge.
CLOUT ruined the CPD.
At St. Jude I marched past an officer who had finished and was watching the parade. He wore six rows of ribbons and three medals but had not been promoted.5/05/2011 02:40:00 AM
Its not the ribbons or the medals who make or break a good boss, but its the confidence and strength of leadership that is inspired in those who follow. And when I say follow I don't mean " do as I say ", but " follow me for I will lead the way ".
A former FTO and happy on days.
Bring the fleet back to the police department, fleet management has totally destroyed the police fleet which impacts directly on morale.
Hey asshole, I'd be happy with one fucking lunch, even if it wasn't the 90 minutes 3-course meal you manage in a clean non-ghetto restaurant.
And for your information, you can do any work in a patrol car - if you have the time running between job after job putting out fires. In fact, under NYPD's "broken window" theory, manning patrol will end up preventing bigger crimes, leading to smaller units.
Don't be scared of patrol little baby hair-gel, sounds like you might be headed back there soon anyway
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listen Francis,
We all have a job to do. Narcotics = Drugs, GIU and GEU = Gangs, Gun Teams = Guns, TRU and MFS = stop anything that moves, Patrol = Patrol.
CPD is down thousands of officers. We need to hire more. Trim the fat from the units for the mean time. Your comment about doing work "if you have the time running between job after job putting out fires" thats YOUR job YOUR in Patrol. For many people patrol will never be a desirable place to be only for the simple fact that units appreciate hard work and going the extra mile. I in fact think about going back the watch all the time. At times I'm burnt out and dont want the hassles of being in a unit.
With the new boss emphasis on counter-terrorism, I would like to see more training in heavy weapons. Let's get the new range open, and get trained on the ar-15. Have put in for it twice, with no luck.
morale. the stench of politics has killed morale. the flunkies-sons and daughters of supervisors-and medical misfits get all the rewards-spots and promotions. when you fix this...morale will get better. the bosses can tell these ''entitlement crybabies'' no.
First on the chopping block should be MSF and TRU. They're dead weight. Unless they're answering calls for districts in the backlog, they're unnecessary. The only time they respond to a domestic is if they hear "gun" on the radio, then they all flock to the job and leave when there's no gun. Nothing personal as I have friends in these units, but we're too short staffed in the districts to have these units rolling around picking up the one baggers and monopolizing all the computers in the district. Hey TRU and MSF, how about a wave once in awhile, or are you too good to wave? Or acknowledge us when we stop to back you up on a traffic stop. Just common courtesy. Dump them all back into the districts unless they can handle some radio jobs and not just hide around in the district looking for the easy quick arrest that the whole team can be down on.
I work in a unit and have worked in patrol. I came from a ghetto district, and work in a different ghetto district everynight. Most officers in tru,msf,geu came from shity districts. Get off of your high horse that beat cops are the best and everyone else is affraid to do what you do. We have all done your job. Everyone who has come on in the last 10 years started off in a shitty district. Guys and girls in the beat car please don't take what im saying the wrong way. I am not talking to most of you just the morons who keep crying about other units. District personelle are truly the backbone of the dept but we all are the police and all have a job to do.
IT AINT HAPPENING!
U KNOW WHY U ARE THE CAUSE.
1. DONT ORDER E.T.'S ON BURGLARY AND FINISH THE REPORT IN 2 LINE WITH NO INFO.
2. U DO EVERY MISSION AND FOOT PATROL IN MINUTES AND COME CLEAR FOR REAL CRIME.
3. U TOW AUTO OF VICTIM AND GEN1RERATE CITY INCOME.
4. U CLEAR MULTIPLE CASE AS A DETECTIVE AND DONT EVEN TELL THE VICTIM.
5. U TELL THE VICTIMS I CANT FIND PRINTS ON PLAIN SURFACES.
6. U BLOW OFF CASE REPORTS AT THE DESK TELLING VICTIMS THEY NEED MORE INFO.
7. U RIGHT UP MANPOWER ALOTMENTS AND COUNT DESK PERSONAL AS WORKING THE STREET SHORT CHANGING THE WORKING OFFICERS.
8. U DOWN GRADE CRIMES THINKING U RECEIVE A BONUS FOR UR GENIUS.
9. U LOCK UP GOOFS FOR NONSENSE AND STAY DOWN ON IT FOR FIVE HOURS.
10. U TURN IN REPORTS IN UR WHITE SHIRT SHOWING CRIME IS DOWN EVERY WHERE AND THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DOESNT NEED ANY MORE OFFICER RISKING EVERYONE LIVES.
DONT WORRY ABOUT DISBANDING ANYTHING SHOW THE TRUE NUMBERS ON CRIME AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
You have all been around for a long time. Do you really think that the powers that be will let someone from New Jersey actually run CPD? Things will still be run from the 5th floor.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Fire the yearlong medical roll riders! We have a ton of them who do nothing but suck up money and are a complete waste of manpower! Fire them, encourage them to leave on their own, but light a fire under their useless asses!!!
5/05/2011 12:25:00 AM Signed:The 20 something dork in perfect health..........
May be we should consult the writers from the TV series Chicago Code for suggestions!!! La La La La La
I don't feel sorry for a lieutenant who has to work in another district who gets time and a half to do so and then additionally gets that overtime paid out as a Captain rank if filling in for one. Please! I'll work in another district for Sergeant (AND AT OVERTIME RATE!) pay any day and every day. You guys are feeling sorry for these bosses making well OVER $100,000 sitting behind a desk having their watch secretary do THEIR watch commanders log. The problem with this department is the poor saps who care more about bosses concerns than the poor blue shirts in a beat car making the lowest of the low pay grade that are treated like garbage.
At St. Jude I marched past an officer who had finished and was watching the parade. He wore six rows of ribbons and three medals but had not been promoted. I see bosses all the time proudly wearing the ribbons given to all and none earned individually
PLEASE HE IS A FAVORITE AND IN THE FOLD ^ ROWS OF BS the attendance award the crime reduction award officer of the month
Of all the issues and problems we have to deal with, the single underlying core issue is competent leadership. I like the list presented, including # 11. More can be added to the list. The FTO program and career path development are two points that come to mind.
Looking ahead, we have to plan not only for the present, but for our long term future. Part of a comprehensive plan must be a continuing leadership development program to improve current supervisors and managers, in addition to grooming and properly preparing personnel to be the true leaders of tomorrow.
We have a lot of great talent inside our organization that we don't utilize. That must change.
We all have a stake in making positive contributions to improve the CPD. Don't think your voice doesn't matter. Everyone's voice counts!
The time is now...
Work safe!
John Andrews
DONT wear the uniform......
DO ride in cars with Officers. That builds morale.
make henny penny direct traffic
"Patrol shouldn't be regarded as a dumping ground or the lowest rung of the department ladder.
"Those officers are the backbone of CPD and should be treated accordingly.
"Every "unit" in the department needs to have their role redefined; they exist to support patrol."
--5/05/2011 12:12:00 AM
That doesn't fit the modern inverted-pyramid corporate model of 100 generic "managers," as interchangeable as light bulbs, balanced on the back of one actual worker with a shovel who they are trying to get rid of.
Oh, look at how influence is being parceled up and sold off to the highest bidder now --
"Emanuel's transition team, which is being funded by four Chicago nonprofit foundations, has been meeting with officials in the administration of departing Mayor Richard Daley..."
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-04-13/news/ct-met-
rahm-emanuel-inaugural-20110413_1_inaugural-
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How about more training for those of us in patrol. Afterall we are the ones who deal with the savage on an everyday basis. Other "highly trained" units are only called into action when need be. I can guarantee you that I made more high risk building entries dealt with more nuts and been placed in situations that a majority of these strokes on tru or msf have never been in and will more then likely never be put in. Patrol is where you learn to be the police, how to react to certain situations and patrol is where you learn the difference between bullshit and truth. Nobody should be allowed to go to a unit unless they have at least 5 years on the job working patrol. Thank you, now go get me a drink spider.
Farrell? Youve got to be kidding. Clouted since Day One.
Speaking of eliminating political "apologists" who are over their heads and unable to work with real coppers...
I'll vote for ER from the bomb/arson section. He can not relate to the people working for him and is only looking for some job after he retires.
No training, no leadership and no equipment despite all the grants we had that are not being spent.
Mr. Supe. Consider eliminating one useless hack and maybe replacing him with the recently bounced "bad for morale" sgt that understood how to be a real boss.
Imagine how many people will start to work again if half these things happened! Get rid of the yuppie police and the social police and Im back in the game!!!!!I have 18 yrs and can still play hard !
Excellent job SCC. You hit it right on the head.
..and these retired and active political figures that demand 24/7 body guards and drivers -- okay fine -- here's how we do it.
You get 24/7 protection provided that you move your residence to a hot spot... let's say ...umm like in Englewood. This way we maximize our manpower that we are so short of.
You want a driver too? Well okay. Here's your unlimited ride CTA pass.
What's good enough for the citizens is good enough period.
I'm tired of hearing the preaching from these peoples pulpits on how safe the city is and we shouldn't allow things like conceal carry to protect ourselves because the police can't.
If the city is so safe Mr Daley. Move to Englewood and we'll give you a 24 hour police presence
First step to add credibility to the testing process is to grade it (scan-tron) right there in front of the member. Hand him a printed test score.
That's called TRANSPARENCY.
Who are brain dead morons that want to get rid of units? Oh yeah its beat cops that want 3 lunches. Hey don't get me wrong, there are to many people in these units but don't cast everyone in the same pile. Their are guys in these units doing great work. Work that just can't be done in a beat car
5/05/2011 01:19:00 AM
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For as poor as your grammar is, you have no right to call anyone a brain dead moron.
agreed
The attacks in Mumbai, India were planned right here in Chicago, Illinois. Terrorists have already attempted to send bombs to Jewish centers in Chicago. We have a new Jewish mayor about to be sworn in and what is the CPD response? Anyone?
Sanctuary city status, disbanding any CPD capability to respond to critical incidents and a continued use of systems like eGuardian by selected members instead of the department in its entirety. Don't forget that the smart books passed out by the feds have deleted portions to fit into the chicago city council sanctuary city ordinances.
The new boss should really love all of this coming from NYPD.
bring back the policy that punitive damages against officers are covered by the city.... This would be one of if not the biggest boost for coppers here. The fear of getting sued and loosing everything by nonsense punitive damages is what makes most slow down.. not j fled, not cozzie in federal prison or the states attorney but loosing what we have in our personal lives. If the city picks up the bill on any award of punitive damages then I think it will put many at ease when doing the job.
Fire the yearlong medical roll riders! We have a ton of them who do nothing but suck up money and are a complete waste of manpower! Fire them, encourage them to leave on their own, but light a fire under their useless asses!!!
5/05/2011 12:25:00 AM
What do you do if you find out that you have cancer or some very disabling illness? What if you get in a horrible traffic accident that isn't your fault?
So on top of having your life turned upside down, you have to find a way to pay for your home which isn't worth what the mortgage costs, your kids schooling because you try not to send them to this failing public schools that we have here in Chicago.
You are a very selfish and immature person. I am ashamed that you are on our department. Our selections system needs to be improved.
Pray that it never happens to you.
How about giving some Lt. who never had a command spot a chance. We have good Lt 's out there, but due to the fact that they have no clout they dont get considered.
If you care about the CPD, and I do, then you have to hope that Lt. Schmear gets the nod to run something bigger and better.
Take that to the bank!
John Farrell taught the Street Crimes class today. Doesn't sound like he's thinking about rejoining CPD, but who knows?
He sounds like a great guy to have on board for shootings. Lots of experience, and humble.
Preckwinkle just lost ALL credibility. Look who she hired as Cook County head of Homeland Security.
To 1:34 p.m.:
You are absolutely correct. Trying to civilianize the desk crews would be a very bad idea.
In response to officers who came on this job with no intention of ever being the police I'd say Commander's offices and headquarters are loaded with them. What about a Commander who has 4 or 5 sworn full duty officers in his office and their combined street experience in a beat car total less than 2 years. Mr. McCarthy if you look under the rocks you'll be amazed at all the full duty officers hiding out that can be quickly sent back to patrol duties.
The author of the "roadmap" ought to be an exempt and Ferrall should be the 1st dep.
Uniform standards!?! Who in the hell is wearing anything they want!?! Not me, ......not my district or area!!!
I want to concentrate on police work and being safe in the field ..... Not worrying about inspectors gigging me because I got a spot on my shirt!!
You are a moron. Get your priorities straight Ned Flanders!
Prince Valiant.
Latest rumor is det's going to be in uniform for the summer, then will be working out of districts still in uniform after that, under supervision of DC.
Hey, I didn't make it up, I'm just passing it along. Makes no sense to me.
The guy with dreads I saw at the academy yesterday had some kind of weaved hat on today. WTF?
Who are brain dead morons that want to get rid of units? Oh yeah its beat cops that want 3 lunches. Hey don't get me wrong, there are to many people in these units but don't cast everyone in the same pile. Their are guys in these units doing great work. Work that just can't be done in a beat car
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What are you new??!!
What the hell do you think we were doing before tru or msf was started??
SOS was sent out as a sat team to swarm an area that heated up
The district response and incident cars did the same thing, usually with better long lasting results.
That is the mentality now, radio cars do nothing but drive around in circles waiting for a call.
In truth there has always been coppers that did just that, but on the other hand there have been and are coppers that not only handle the jobs but keep their heads on a swivel while going to or returning from that call for service.
3 lunches??? We in patrol are lucky to get 1!! Lunch? Denied but I could give you a personal per **20
You gotta a lotta learn
Who is John Farrell?
6. Streamline, the detective division, police officers can do their own burglaries, thefts etc. You might want to restructure violent crimes so that a sergeant and dicks are assigned to a team similar to the way the G works. Both the dicks and the team leads need to be held accountable for the clearance rate as well as timely submission for reports etc.
While I agree that beat officers can and should do their own felonies on several different incidents I take exception that we should be in teams with sgts. Your post leaves me wondering if you have even been upstairs in the d unit.
1# There isn't enough detectives to make a team let alone several.
2# I don't want to be like the G, the G wants to be like us. You know, like decisive.
3# I missed that memo where detectives were suddenly responsible for clearance rates. It would seem to me if your legislators, supervisors, and citizenry were interested in clearance rates they wouldn't be hammering detectives in federal court with punitive law suits, inane advisory forms, witness forms, Miranda forms, and the refusal to re-prosecute convicted felons.
4# let me know where I can pick up your magic fairy dust where I come upon a scene, sprinkle the dust on the victims family, friends, and witnesses and they suddenly decide to not only assist in the investigation but actually tell the beat cop and detective what happened.
5# when they start issuing crystal balls, tarot cards, and quiji boards I'll get right the fuck on that clearance rate.
Till then, stay off the blog till your post or comments can actually be taken seriously.
Anonymous said...
Amen SCC. Amen. You hit the nail on the head. I could not have hoped to say it better.
Future Supe...listen up!
5/05/2011 07:09:00 AM
Listen up? Right.
Because that is all I have to do, just sit at my computer and read this blog about a bunch of whining cops.
Why, I bet if I gave you all a nice gold bar you would complain how heavy it is!
Really, I am much too busy so you won't be reading me any more on this blog.
Just remember this: When you are 100% right, I will have your back 100%. I promise. Otherwise I will have my own ass covered first, last and always.
And that crap about getting rid of clout, are you fucking dreaming? Show me a police department in the USA that doesn't operate on clout and influence. How do you think I got this job? On Merit and good looks? Hah! My phone call finally worked!
And we are going back to the hat wearing police, all officers, all the time, you will all wear your hats or caps all the time. One day suspension if caught without your cover. No exceptions. And the long curly locks, women with fancy hair, doo rags and Predator looking braids, gone.
Shape up or look for work.
Next question please?
Using retired P/O's to work some desk spots and inside spots would free some P/O's to work the streets, but nobody with under 20 years on the job shouldn't be working those spots anyway.
•7.Back your front line supervisors, expect them to supervise and enforce a uniform standards, hair standard in addition to motivating their subordinates. Members above the rank of sergeant should support their front line supervision also.
wow you really have a lot to write and have really nothing to say .my dear friend are you must be a dumb supervisor who is not respected
and now you bitchin about it then you must be a nut case there is nothing wrong with the man and women in blue you must give respect in order to received and do you really want to talk about uniform standard wow please don't so go do some real police work
"UPDATE: For all the grammar and spell check ninnies, WE DIDN'T WRITE THIS." -- SCC
Oh, for God's sake.
It does say "spouse, parent, cop" right at the top of the front page here.
Anyone with the time and energy to hack at someone over a few typos is probably "none of the above."
Thanks, SCC, for the effort involved in constantly updating this most excellent web log.
Chief Rivera/ Commander Klimas (WEIS)Guys. Two positions NOT needed in IAD,Klimas is getting a FBI pension plus a commanders salary. WOW!!!!! must be nice.
"We can free up alot of cars by having citizens make the report over the phone and dispatching a ET.
How many "forced door open, found items missing" can a beat copper do. Phone this stuff in."
F-it! Let's not even send an ET. They're as short as we are and from the ones I talk to, it looks like the city is eliminating the crime lab. Their duties will be assumed by ETs.
"PS growing my goatee back..."
Me too!
OT. Officer Alvin Weems found dead in in apartment. Officer Weems was involved in shooting of unarmed man on CTA.
I'm not happy with the gramer, speling and puncuaion in this topik.
It strikes me as something Maurer wrote.
Instead of criticizing the grammar, how about making some constructive comments.
I'm not happy McCarthy is in, but I am hoping for some positive change.
I'm willing to give his oversized Irish head and past abuse of NJ cops trying to ticket his daughter a pass for the moment. Perhaps he will be able to overcome his past silliness and move to greater and greater platitudes of silliness. Say, silly, silly silly.
Masters to head County Homeland Security and get paid 160,000
04:40 Dont think anyone is complaining about po's that have cancer, disabling injuries or problems like that My guess hes referring to those that are on the medical everytime they cant get cu, have babysitting problems, dont get the furlo they want A few years back the dept offered like 3 times a year you could take off 3 days without being on the medical but that had to be cancelled because the same abusers made sure they used those 3 times wether they were sick or not Dont be ashamed to work with po's that dont like medical abusers because if it continues and with the new mayor, our great medical may end
To ALL u fuckin idiots who bash the medical roll...YES there r MANY dog abusers & will they ALL get caught? NOPE! Will u need the medical one day? Hopefully we all will be the picture of perfect health BUT it usually doesnt go that way..MS,Cancer,Lupus,MVA,IODs etc all seem to come our way at one time or another. Dont bash the guy on the medical roll when u have absolutely no fucking idea why he is on it for 9+ months...YEAH u MIGHT think he was put on for the "flu" but I'm sure you wouldnt want to trade shoes with him for nothing pal! Be careful what u all wish for...u may get it then end up fucking yourself years down the road..then again..severe illness knows NO age
Signed
Been there & still here
Using retired P/O's to work some desk spots and inside spots would free some P/O's to work the streets, but nobody with under 20 years on the job shouldn't be working those spots anyway.
5/05/2011 06:57:00 PM
AMEN BROTHER!!!!!!!!!!
Also you asked for the resumes of every commander. Check their activity stats from when they were patrol men and women I think you will be shocked to see how many were never the real police and never arrested anyone. Then send them packing. We have triple merit hacks that were chosen ones from day one that are so called leaders.
To all the commentors that can't understand the importance of plainclothes police officers, go back to police 101. If you can get off you high horse long enough to look beyond your ego, you'll realize that the real police are the ones that don't keep saying they are.
Anonymous said...
In todays sneeds column article about how McCarthy is requesting resumes from the bosses along with a picture and sneed wonders why. Maybe sneed the new boss wants to see the out of shape command staff? Why also in her column is daley getting a police detail 24/7 and 2 city paid cars? Dosen't daley have enough cash from all the money he stole? Hey Rich you gave your former bodyguard detail SMG group multi-million dollar contracts do you think maybe they could repay the favor instead of cash in the envelope maybe a free detail?
5/05/2011 08:46:00 AM
Anyone can create a great resume, check out their stats from when they were patromlem. Suprize surprize schazam. I bet carothers has a million pinches, and what about that linda Florez and judith Martin.
The new Supe should interview the top 50 decorated police officers. Weed out the clouted and tarded. Promote the remainding immediately.
Who is this Lt Schmear guy and where did he work at? And where does he work now? Who is his clout? Or is he a legit guy?
If you worked with John Farrell,around him or knew him,you would feel that he was the best boss you ever saw.In my time on the job the only guy like him would be the late Joe McCarthy.Both considered themselves street coppers first,not bosses.AS a working copper who might at times make a mistake,you could go to Farrell with the true story and by the time its done,you would come out well.Now thats a boss.How many of these spineless LTs and up know how to be a real boss.Not to many.Farrell was never a clout guy and because of everything he did for the working police,thats why he was not exempt.
Give the tact teams some of the resources that ocd can get The potential for district tact teams is unlimited with the rights guys and bossess.In the 70s the 015th district tact team was unbelievable.In the 80s the 014th district team brought in more dope than ocd narcotics.Also Sgt Tommy Eichlers team in 010 was unreal.
11. The crime lab and E.T.s.. you guessed it back to patrol. Too many kids coming out of college with forensic degrees that will work cheaper and better than the people we have now. Most police depatments are using civiliams for crime scene processing. we should too.
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You're out of your mind. Police only should process a crime scene. It is a CRIME scene. Anybody with a forensic degree, can apply to be a cop.
I am a Sgt. with over 30 yrs of service on this job, I have loved this job for years, however, we have units like Narcotics that is just so so out of control with wasted manpower, they have these little people who make 1 and 2 bag buys on the street that lead nowhere, they develope into nothing, they have take home cars and don't need them, they are wasted people, my advice, sir is to downsize this unit, take a deep look into the call back unit, force IRPA to settle caes and get these officers back tpo work, get our medical roll abusers back to work, if your are really sick or injured, then the medical is for you to use, if you can work but not full duty, then put these people where they can do some good, get all these fat ass free loaders back to work, Get the district Sgts. in order, they can't be everyones friend, we have to manage time better, tell these balless WatchCommanders to lead the men and women and if they can't then rotate them out somewhere. Let Tactical teams do the narcoitcs enforcing in the districts, Get these loafers to enforce out traffic laws, no more stop sign runners, litter bugs, Zero tolerance on Bullshit music and tow the cars, I hope you can restore some pride in this job. and if coppers don't want this job, then force them out. but we have to get some order back into this dept. we look like SHIT out there, our cars are pigpens, we have carwashes and the sgts. don't tell anyone to wash them. Please Help us Supt. McCarthy, and welcome to you and your family, Chicago really is a great city.
Of all the issues and problems we have to deal with, the single underlying core issue is competent leadership. I like the list presented, including # 11. More can be added to the list. The FTO program and career path development are two points that come to mind.
Looking ahead, we have to plan not only for the present, but for our long term future. Part of a comprehensive plan must be a continuing leadership development program to improve current supervisors and managers, in addition to grooming and properly preparing personnel to be the true leaders of tomorrow.
We have a lot of great talent inside our organization that we don't utilize. That must change.
We all have a stake in making positive contributions to improve the CPD. Don't think your voice doesn't matter. Everyone's voice counts!
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There is no future on this job. There is only today and the end.
You do your job today. You do it until the end. Then, you do it no more.
For the un-clouted, there are only a few tests in between and for the lucky a promotion. What you do today has no meaning. It is forgotten by tomorrow. No promotion, no assignment is ever based on what you did before. Even if you deserved it, that's not why you got it.
For the un-connected, police work is a job, not a career. You do it and they pay you. If you don't, you get paid the same.
Expect anything more than a paycheck for your efforts and you are delusional. Collect a hundred awards and find yourself on the front page, you're in the same boat as if you had none.
Nothing is earned. Everything is given.
In another post someone said it doesn't matter if McCarthy is the greatest in the world,He hasn't got a prayer in this town, but he shouldn't feel bad, whoever took the job was destined to fail.Politics wins every time.Good Luck.
Lets base everything on how many awards cops get. Yea right. They are all legitt. Where do you people come up with these ideas?
Garry take your time and really take a look how a real Police Department operates. The Chicago Police Department is one of the best in the country. There is always room for improvement but remember to take a real close look at how the these officers do good work despite all the BS we have been through these past three years. Don't make the same mistakes Jody did. Strive to be a leader and not a stroke.
"If you care about the CPD, and I do, then you have to hope that Lt. Schmear gets the nod to run something bigger and better."
----This is a joke right? You mean schmear from 024 ??
The new Supe should interview the top 50 decorated police officers. Weed out the clouted and tarded. Promote the remainding immediately.
Signed:
A guy that types his own Honorable Mentions and gives them to his Sergeant to submit.
Also you asked for the resumes of every commander. Check their activity stats from when they were patrol men and women I think you will be shocked to see how many were never the real police and never arrested anyone. Then send them packing. We have triple merit hacks that were chosen ones from day one that are so called leaders.
5/05/2011 08:22:00 PM
Real Police Commanders
Off the top of my head - 002 003 008 009 012 018 021 025 640 650 and Gorman. Leo too. I am sure there must be more. Like them or not they worked.
". . . Most police depatments are using civiliams for crime scene processing. we should too. . . ."
5/05/2011 10:44:00 AM
RIP ET Michael Flisk!
The goofs with the "dreadlocks" and "twisties" have been overlooked for years. Bosses just ignore it. You should see the goof wearing a Mohawk that is a training instructor at the Bike Unit. Dude-you've aged out of that look, now you just look like an idiot in our uniform. Great supervising going on over there.
191 Intel Cmdr Meahler says -GO BULLS!!!
HE HAS NO CLUE AND CAN'T STOP THE WILDINGS ON MICH AND OAK ST!
A PO hater with no credentials other than Blago Clout who thinks he is better than all the blue shirts
WELL SAID we dont need do nothings like this guy
Get rid of full time SWAT and go back to part time HBT.
5/05/2011 01:15:00 AM
Seriously, your still at it? A merit promotion wasn't enough? It wasn't our fault that you couldn't pass the PT test. You were young enough but to lazy to try! You always had everything handed to you in your police career, right doctor! If they made swat a part-team I wouldn't care. We don't make any over-time any way. This will also elimanate almost all of our training and the amount of travel in our own cars to great lakes, marsailles, joliet, will and lake county.With gas prices at 4.45 a gallon , it's actually cost
us money just to stay in the unit. Making arrest and going to court maybe the only way to make any ot. There are only 40 of us in the unit, we are short by 20. We are short because Lt.Eminem drove them to quit. So either way I don't care!
Anonymous said...
I work in a unit and have worked in patrol. I came from a ghetto district, and work in a different ghetto district everynight. Most officers in tru,msf,geu came from shity districts. Get off of your high horse that beat cops are the best and everyone else is affraid to do what you do. We have all done your job. Everyone who has come on in the last 10 years started off in a shitty district. Guys and girls in the beat car please don't take what im saying the wrong way. I am not talking to most of you just the morons who keep crying about other units. District personelle are truly the backbone of the dept but we all are the police and all have a job to do.
5/05/2011 12:23:00 PM
Ok, now that it is clear that you are one of Jodie's boys, an MSFer, I have a few words of advice, if you wonder why you are so despised. It doesn't take 4 cars to process a 2 bag arrest. Stay the fuck off of facebook when you are at work. You may free up a computer for one of us "beat officers" that may actually have to type up numerous case reports, because AIRA isn't working in the car. It isn't just the district personnel that laugh at you; the people on the street do as well. One question I am repeatedly asked is: "Why do they got to have 3 cars pull a motherfucker over? Is they scared?" As to your contention that everyone from MSF came from a ghetto district, I cannot help but laugh. How many people are trying to escape midnights in 018, 024, 017, 014, etc.? At least a third of MSF come from soft districts, likely including yourself if you truly consider the mentioned districts "ghetto districts". Now, go back to your MSF group on facebook.
Oh, one other thing; the last guy, before he left, had the Secret Service do a security survey on our police facilities.
Could we maybe implement some of those ideas, before some (non-FOID having, willing to break the UUW and homicide laws) idiot comes in and shoots up one of our stations?
Another of J-Fed's failures (along with non-clout unit appointments, Morale & Stress survey, etc.)
To all the commentors that can't understand the importance of plainclothes police officers, go back to police 101. If you can get off you high horse long enough to look beyond your ego, you'll realize that the real police are the ones that don't keep saying they are.
5/05/2011 08:24:00 PM
Your comment makes no sense. Uniforms should be required for everyone but detectives and undercovers. Period. Your Carharts and jeans are not fooling anyone.
"Tonight one is assigned to 019. The next night, he or she is assigned to 005 or 022. It's ridiculous, they are basically working out of the trunks of their cars"
BOO HOO HOO & THEY PAY ME 6 FIGURES FOR BEING A INCOMPETENT FIGUREHEAD. WHERE DO I SIGN UP??
The crap about poor uniform standards won't change until the Dept. hires enough Lts. to stop what's currently happening with them. They are basically on a loaner merry-go-round right now. Tonight one is assigned to 019. The next night, he or she is assigned to 005 or 022. It's ridiculous, they are basically working out of the trunks of their cars, and with all this switching up of WCs, it's no wonder that the troops are getting away with wearing just about any fucking thing to work! After being moved around so much, there is simply no continuity of supervision among the WCs. Some don't even do roll calls, they let the watch Sgt. handle it, and you know damn well the Sgt. on the watch isn't going to say a fucking thing most of the time to the repeat slobs. Front line supervision in most districts is simply awful, which is where most of the little problems become bigger ones.
you wanted the position of lt so deal with its that is what u get paid for so look in the mirror so stop bitchin. slobs wow nice way of describing humans interesting
that is good that they send lt to others district its a good experience at least you are not sitting in your office watchin tv .
Wow, I really like the majority of this. I will say this, walk around ANY Area and you will see mysterious white shirts wandering the halls on a regular basis, with no particular task at hand. Some people earned it, I grant you that. As much as people gripe about the "Shish Shah!!" MSF units, they serve a needed purpose. You need a unit/units like SOS/MSF/TRU for problem areas so they should stay. The commander of MSF and a particular Sgt there do a great job of training and making certain things available. Most in MSF are young and aggressive, just a little green but thats ok cause we all were too. I hope this new guy, albeit IRISH....helps us all out.
Using retired P/O's to work some desk spots and inside spots would free some P/O's to work the streets, but nobody with under 20 years on the job shouldn't be working those spots anyway.
5/05/2011 06:57:00 PM
AMEN BROTHER!!!!!!!!!!
5/05/2011 08:22:00 PM
That is Police Station manned by Police Officers. It should never change. How many disturbanses and melees have occured in the station?
Look at the Detroit video. I like the Cadets, but they are doing an Officers work and are in the line of fire behind a desk.
Civilian are not a good idea on a Police Department.
Anonymous said...
I am a Sgt. with over 30 yrs of service on this job,...etc.(over 100 words later.)
Cheez brother, as a Sgt. with over 30 years, you'd think you would have found a few periods and capital letters during your career.
You probably did well in the "Run (on) to Remember."
Anonymous said...
Using retired P/O's to work some desk spots and inside spots would free some P/O's to work the streets, but nobody with under 20 years on the job shouldn't be working those spots anyway.
5/05/2011 06:57:00 PM
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Signed,
The guy who worked an inside spot his whole career, complained about seniority the whole time about everything, worked until 63, and now wants a full-time gig with the department to supplement the pension at half the price of a P.O. to take away inside spots for other P.O.'s.
Go Blow!
TO: Get rid of full time SWAT and go back to part time HBT.
5/05/2011 01:15:00 AM
I am not SWAT but absolutely NOT....A department our size having a part-time swat team is a huge mistake...Probably a more accurate statement: Get rid of the MERITORIOUS EGOTISTICAL Coordinator that yells at other supervisors because he has the luxury of walking in at his pace to a job when we are there making decisions on the fly....Not a leader MM, very few respect you...You're gonna come up against another Lt one day that is going to tell you to go fuck yourself and hopefully put you on your ass in the middle of the street....
THat being said, the city is crying poor and can't give a test becuase of the expense of it....OK here's a suggestion, there several hundred officers that have resigned from the department for one reason or another and trying to come back, NO test needed....Put them through the ropes, training under district reinstatment and assign away, still certified and save 18 months to two years of field training...
Boys and girls, let me let you in on a little known secret, Gerry McCarthy comes from NYPD and Newark PD. Out east they have this new thing, it's called ESU (Emergency Services UNIT - Emphasis on UNIT). They have hundreds of officers assigned to ESU in NYC, Newark being smaller, obviously they have a smaller team, but still a good percentage of all the coppers on the street. McCarthy has already stated in the press that he feels that Chicago should have "a robust counter terrrorism unit." So all of you calling for "all the units to be disbanded and sent back to districts" are in for a BIG disappointment in that respect. But after doing a little studying up on NYPD under McCarthy I learned he is also a master at acquiring federal funding to hire more cops. He would hire 1000 cops at a pop on the federal dime and then flood the worst crime districts with manpower. Under COMPSTAT they would create foot beats and have dozens of coppers walking a beat in the nastiest parts of town, and it worked. Expect to see the same here. Also, they had a lot of command changes, and feather ruffling. If a commander couldn't get his guys to work, he/she would get dumped and a new commander would be brought in. The downside to this is, there is a lot of trickle down affect. Remember shit rolls down hill, and the ultimate responsibility for reducing crime under COMPSTAT falls on the patrol officer. So those of you calling for supervisors to do more, it's coming too. No nametag? SPAR. No star? SPAR. No activity? SPAR, dump, footpost. Dogassing it to jobs. SPAR, dump, footpost. There are some great sgts and Lts on this job that will let a lot slide, but when push comes to shove, they are only going to take so much heat before they start hammering blueshirts. Heed this post. It is coming, some good, some bad. It will be a new era here in CPD. Careful what you wish for, it might come true.
I had some Polish relatives back home in Poland who were hoping for the best on Sept 1, 1930 when the German tanks and troops started rolling in and the planes started dropping 500 pounders.
"I will give them the benefit of the doubt and hope for the best," said uncle Stanley.
"Let's wait and see what happens, they won't screw us too bad, after all, we are neighbors," said uncle Vladamir.
And when Cline and Weis came here, there were lots of talk of "Give them a chance, they will change things for the better."
Face it, Rahm Emanuel does NOT have our best interests at heart. Want to have it good? Get on Daley's bodyguard detail. Or Rahm's. Or better yet, Ed Burke's.
Remember Ed Burke? He is the alderman who was left the spot by virtue of his father dying and willing it to him. The guy who Rahm proclaimed was going to be dumped and stripped of his bodyguard detail.
And how did that work? Same committee chair, same bodyguard detail and Ed Burke emerged even more powerful than before.
Hold on to your hats for we are headed into some moderate to severe turbulence. No telling what will happen next. We may be looking back at Jody Weis' tenure as the "good old days."
Anonymous said...
I know Mr. Farrell has a large brown noser club here, but bringing him back isn't going to be the end-all that they think it is.
There is more than enough talent still on the Job today that can help turn things around.
5/05/2011 12:34:00 AM
It is good to see that there is still an ample supply of Hopium around.
Don't bogart that Hopium my friend, pass it over to me, You've been holding on to it, and I sure would like a hit.
'Real Police Commanders
Off the top of my head - 002 003 008 009 012 018 021 025 640 650 and Gorman. Leo too. I am sure there must be more. Like them or not they worked.'
And you think Fletcher of 003 was the working police? Ha! Much more of an administrative kind of guy than anything else, ask around. And the Cmdr of 010 isn't listed. He may have spent a good deal of his career in the Detective Division, but he was the real po-po too, as was Washington (011), and (believe it or not), Walter Green (015) who should be gone by the end of this year. Kuemmeth (022) spent a number of years working tact in 004, where a lot of exempts have cut their teeth from. The Cmdr of 024 was a good cop back in his day too.
Almost forgot Eric Carter of 004. good cop back in
his 007 tact days too.
'This medical abuse and reinstatement after getting fired has killed the dept.These instances promote low morale and encourage laziness...they are repeat abusers,work part-time jobs, and special employment when they ARE NOT INJURED..LOL Commanders,WC's,Sgt's are wasting their time disciplining these hacks..if they consistently get bailed out!!!'
Truer words were never spoken. Look at how long it took to get rid of Mike Kozenko. And there are many others (even worse) who would get fired, only to later get RE-HIRED. It's truly a disgrace to all of those who bravely put on that uniform and go out on those streets and do a dignified job while obeying the rules & regs of the Dept. and putting on a professional face every day.
put the blue jean , t shirt tact men in uniform unless on an undercover assignment
tact officers appearance is an embarassment to cpd officers
hit a few roll calls , you'll be
shocked at what you see especially tact teams
So those of you calling for supervisors to do more, it's coming too. No nametag? SPAR. No star? SPAR. No activity? SPAR, dump, footpost. Dogassing it to jobs. SPAR, dump, footpost. There are some great sgts and Lts on this job that will let a lot slide, but when push comes to shove, they are only going to take so much heat before they start hammering blueshirts. Heed this post. It is coming, some good, some bad. It will be a new era here in CPD. Careful what you wish for, it might come true.
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Here is what will change. Units will get new names and exempts will shuffle. Other than that NOTHING will change.
Coppers will continue to wear doo rags and in general look like slobs in their nonuniform uniforms. More cops will work inside than outside. Ten percent will do the work. One percent will get fired, while one one hundredth of one percent will go to jail. Aldermen will pick bosses. Their relatives will move up the chain. Crime will go up and down while crime stats will always go down. Less crimes will get solved even less will get charged. Cops will blog that crime is out of control and complain that the new policy will only make things worse, when actually crime will go wherever it will and the new policy will have no impact on crime whatsoever. More cops will get sued. More will lose more of their own money.
Most importantly, Gerry will get his paycheck and he will most certainly cash them. Three years from now, a new person will cash those checks.
'I am not SWAT but absolutely NOT....A department our size having a part-time swat team is a huge mistake...Probably a more accurate statement: Get rid of the MERITORIOUS EGOTISTICAL Coordinator that yells at other supervisors because he has the luxury of walking in at his pace to a job when we are there making decisions on the fly....Not a leader MM, very few respect you...You're gonna come up against another Lt one day that is going to tell you to go fuck yourself and hopefully put you on your ass in the middle of the street....'
WAH, WAH, WAH. Another anonymous SWAT bitch.
What's next? A new 'anonymous' letter to the new Mayor? That's what some of you punks did to get rid of your last SWAT coordinator/Lt. If you're that unhappy working for the SWAT coordinator, QUIT.
There are beat cars waiting to be filled with someone of your experience & training! Otherwise, STFU, be grateful that you're experiencing a lull in the call out jobs, which means that when you're not working SORT cars, you're training (either shooting or working out) on company time. It's tough to get in SWAT, tougher still to stay there, I'll give you that, but the work's pretty damn tough in those beat cars in most areas of the city too. Pick your battles carefully Francis!
The number of totally inept, bi polar whiteshirts increases with each merit promotion. Yep, its a great motivator to listen to a useless boss tell me what crap I am cuz I don't have a phone call to stop the abuse.
Get over the uniform discrepancies, would gladly have an old timer with some street smarts in a shabbier shirt and pants back me up any day over a useless hair gel with his creases in place and shiny shoes. Also remember that big bird once wrote up a po for having dirty shoes, AT CHECKOFF, really makes one want to go out there and tear up the town doing real police work. Rahm and Gary, if you are reading, please do away with merit or at the very least, ONE merit promotion only for an entire career.
MSF, from its inception , has had nine missions that, while dovetailed to the Patrol Division, required specialized and consistent training to achieve. Cmdr R selected personnel that had the required abilities and certifications to provide this training from within his own assigned personnel, he didnt rely on taskers to the academy or anyone else. The personnel he selected created a reciprocal 18 month program of continuous classes in firearms, law, physical fitness, and tactics. When the cycle ended it would be delivered again, except that new thinking and techniques would be included in every new cycle.
That was the idea, but the actual manifestation of the notion went beyond all expectations.
Between 31 Oct 08 and 31 Oct 10, MSF achieved almost 50, 000 man hours of training across all of the subject matter delivered. This with almost no budget. This is documented. The person that said, "MSF was Jodi's pet, so it got a little extra", is gravely misinformed. 1505 funds gave GEU some training, from outside sources, but neither GEU nor, especially, TRU have received CONSISTENT training.
That is the difference between us and them.
"That is the difference between us and them."
Seriously? That is the difference? You spent an hour a day working out on company time, another hour on training, another half hour showering and getting changed, an hour and a half - two hours eating lunch, and the only difference between you and GEU or TRU is training. You are a major jagoff and asshat. You know why GEU and TRU didn't get training? Because they were out working the streets preventing homicides and shootings and locking jagoffs up. They weren't afforded the "luxuries" of training. You or your Sgt or Lt ever have to drop paper as to why a dirtbag got shot where you were assigned (and I am sure they got shot regularly)? TRU and the districts do, but MSF NOOOOOO....
They don't have to account for their whereabouts after a shooting in their area. Did you have to buy your own equipment to execute a search warrant like GEU had to, because the Department wouldn't give them the proper gear? I didn't think so. So take your "that is the only difference" and shove it up your golden boy, hairgel, elite sphincter, you three year wonderboy. Go to Northside Grill and take up 5 tables and tell each other war stories about how you were assigned to 017 and you made a weed pinch once and how it only took you three hours to process the arrest.
MSF was exactly what it was, Jody's golden child unit. That is why Roussell jumped the chain of command at every turn to get anything he wanted. Now it is time to pay the piper and learn what it is like to be on the outside looking in. "Ain't no use in going home, Jody's got your girl and GONE!"
Now it is time to pay the piper and learn what it is like to be on the outside looking in. "Ain't no use in going home, Jody's got your girl and GONE!"
5/08/2011 09:28:00 AM
Wow. It seems to me that the poster above you posted facts and you posted personal attacks. Did he hit a nerve or something?
I'm sure that when it comes time for the axe to fall, everything will be looked at. Types of arrests, incidents in the assigned areas and level of training.
That or politics will dictate who stays and who goes.
Seriously? That is the difference? You spent an hour a day working out on company time, another hour on training, another half hour showering and getting changed, an hour and a half - two hours eating lunch, and the only difference between you and GEU or TRU is training
5/08/2011 09:28:00 AM
You are misinformed. Or, more accurately, trying to throw shit in an effort to hide the fact that you are full of what you throw.
I don't see how a unit actually doing some training is a bad thing. The whole department should be doing training instead of thinking that the academy is all you need in a twenty or thirty year career. Asshat.
Seriously? That is the difference? You spent an hour a day working out on company time, another hour on training, another half hour showering and getting changed, an hour and a half - two hours eating lunch, and the only difference between you and GEU or TRU is training
5/08/2011 09:28:00 AM
You are misinformed. Or, more accurately, trying to throw shit in an effort to hide the fact that you are full of what you throw.
I don't see how a unit actually doing some training is a bad thing. The whole department should be doing training instead of thinking that the academy is all you need in a twenty or thirty year career. Asshat.
5/09/2011 12:21:00 AM
Actually he's not misinformed at all. I think the point was that MSF get a shit load of training and nobody else gets shit. Which is completely true. Everybody would love to get that kind of training especially units that do the same shit as MSF and will have the same responsibilities if shit goes haywire. Also it common knowledge that your beatoff Commander went straight to Jody to get his way, and it pissed a lot of people off.
Actually he's not misinformed at all. I think the point was that MSF get a shit load of training and nobody else gets shit. Which is completely true. Everybody would love to get that kind of training especially units that do the same shit as MSF and will have the same responsibilities if shit goes haywire. Also it common knowledge that your beatoff Commander went straight to Jody to get his way, and it pissed a lot of people off.
5/09/2011 01:30:00 PM
They took the initiative and did the training themselves, in house, with the qualified people they had. They didn't wait for someone from CPD to come do it for them.
If you wanted the training, you could have organized it yourself just like they did. I'll bet if you look real hard in your unit or district, you'll find a bunch of combat veteran military guys and girls with training and experience they can pass on. The problem is that you wait for someone else to do it for you and that's never going to happen in CPD.
As for the commander of MSF, he's an old school Marine who believes in getting the best training for his guys and girls to give them the best chance out on the street. That makes him a good leader and you the fucking beat off. Now go get your shine box.
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