Quinn Wants More Victims
- Gov. Pat Quinn sought to stall a push to allow concealed carry in Illinois, saying Tuesday that he would veto any measure lawmakers sent him that would allow citizens to walk around with loaded guns in public.
"I don't think we're in the business of trying to increase danger to the people of Illinois. We want to work with our law enforcement and prevent bad things from happening," the governor said at a morning news conference.
What is it about Illinois democrats that makes them believe something that is legal in 48 other states (soon to be 49) won't work here in Illinois? What makes Illinoisans so incompetent that they cannot safely handle a firearm like so many millions of other Americans do every single day?
And how is an armed populace "increas[ing] danger" to anyone except the criminals already out there preying on people?
The bill passed out of committee 12-1, so it looks as if the representatives have a better handle on the people's feelings than Quinn does. And the support of so many law enforcement organizations across Illinois bodes well for initial passage. Quinn may win a temporary stay of battle, but he's handing gun rights people an easy campaign issue in a few years.
And how is an armed populace "increas[ing] danger" to anyone except the criminals already out there preying on people?
The bill passed out of committee 12-1, so it looks as if the representatives have a better handle on the people's feelings than Quinn does. And the support of so many law enforcement organizations across Illinois bodes well for initial passage. Quinn may win a temporary stay of battle, but he's handing gun rights people an easy campaign issue in a few years.
Labels: gun issues
posted by SCC at 12:02 AM
93 Comments:
"What makes Illinoisans so incompetent that they cannot safely handle a firearm like so many millions of other Americans do every single day?"
Answer: They vote for people like Quinn.
What is it about Illinois democrats that makes them believe something that is legal in 48 other states (soon to be 49) won't work here in Illinois?
Because they think that all people have as little control over their emotions as they do.
Libtards are notorious for that.
WRT: "I don't think we're in the business of trying to increase danger to the people of Illinois. We..."
Then why does the political apparatus continue to look the other way when it comes to illegal immigrant drug cartels -- they ignore the illegal immigration laws that endanger the law abiding citizens and they grant the criminals sanctuary.impunity?
Create one crisis after another -- then spin the problem of violence to guns so you can run an agenda that leaves the middle class dependent on an understaffed and overwhelmed police force
Political propaganda and lies. So sick of it.
Clip via the CapitolFax.com blog...
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" An e-mail message from the Illinois State Rifle Association…
We have good news and bad news regarding HB148, the 2011 Concealed Carry Bill.
The good news is that this year’s concealed carry bill enjoys broad bi-partisan support from around the state. The reason for this success is that the bill has been carefully crafted to address some legislators’ concerns about public safety while, at the same time, ensuring that the provisions of the bill will allow for citizens to protect themselves and their families from dangerous criminals. This bill has been so fine-tuned that there is absolutely no practical reason for anyone to oppose HB148.
The bad news is that the Chicago Gun Grabbing Machine has switched into overdrive in its efforts to kill off H148 so that you and your family remain defenseless against muggers, murderers, robbers and rapists. The gun control movement is using threats, intimidation and outright lies in its attempt to coerce members of the House of Representatives to vote against HB148.
I’ve asked for details about the alleged “threats, intimidation and outright lies” by opponents, but I’m still awaiting a response.
more >> http://capitolfax.com/
Chicago Code got cancelled.
SCC said...
"Quinn may win a temporary stay of battle, but he's handing gun rights people an easy campaign issue in a few years."
In a few years? Forget THAT!
Idiot Quinn's veto means NOTHING when the legislature overrides it!
OT - Parody of Bin Laden military take down.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/videoplayer
.guest.html#uri=channels/456319/1323591
OT: Father Tom, You've brought me to tears a few times in the past couple of decades, but this last article...wow. Ironic, YOU thanking US, saluting the police for our work.
And, thanks for bringing to light the heinous plan to replace 'our' guys with so-called 'community-based ministry'.
It wouldn't have been a 'hit' they would have taken; it would have been a mutiny. I don't need the likes of a self-pfromoting, pfretend pfriest beside me during a shooting, or after the murder of my partner. Appalling.
Best wishes on your pending retirement. I thank God you were here during most of my career. You were the 'other' partner, who was always there, in the darkest times and the most unlikely places. You have always had my utmost respect and gratitude for the work YOU do. Thank YOU.
I wonder if lardass Quinn is willing to give up his armed bodyguards?
Oh God, 31/2 more years of this asshole in control of the state
And just what the hell does Quinn know about working with law enforcement, keeping citizens safe or preventing bad things from happening?
What is it about Illinois democrats that makes them believe something that is legal in 48 other states (soon to be 49) won't work here in Illinois?
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It's not that they believe it won't work. They know it will. When people get enough of their corruption and blatant thievery, they'll come storming the government buildings and take them back for the people.
That's exactly what they are afraid of.
"I don't think we're in the business of trying to increase danger to the people of Illinois." - Governor Pat Quinn
OK, so repealing the death penalty, and releasing repeat felons from prison doesn't increase the danger to the people of Illinois?
Living and working in a number of states with concealed carry, I've felt safer walking down the street in Mesa Arizona knowing there may be someone CCW'ing than I ever feel walking in Chicago.
Gov Quinn needs to take a walk down Michigan Ave or the Red Line without his security detail and see how long it takes before he either changes his mind, or we're calling for Lt. Gov. Sheila Simon.
Geez SCC, how dumb can you be? Don't you know IL dumbocrats are smarter than the whole other 49 states? Not only are we the most corrupt state, but we are the most out of tune with the times.
With a vote in the house coming either Thurs. or Fri. now is the time to call our Reps. and voice our support for HB 148 and ask them to do the same! Light up the phone lines down in S-field and let them know what the PEOPLE want not what Quinn thinks is best for his subjects!
Chicago Code got cancelled.
5/04/2011 12:29:00 AM
Yeah, because it sucked giant balls in addition to being a huge pile of bullshit.
Illinois is really unbelievable! Our politicians are a bunch of dysfunctional assholes who live in a bubble. Every other state but us.
Gee, we're so special.
---not a cop
Yeah, those strict gun laws worked real well here in Chicago last weekend where we had 14 shootings and 2 dead on Saturday alone. Want to stop wildings in 18:CCW. Shoot a few bad guys and people will once again be able to walk down the street without fear of assault by groups of violent offenders.
I watched the news conference and they put Thor Soderburg's widow up there to tell her story about gun violence. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he get killed when that shit bag was able to disarm him. What did that case have to do with concealed carry by private citizens.
SCC says: And how is an armed populace "increas[ing] danger" to anyone except the criminals already out there preying on people?
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But wait! There's more! Did you hear him on the radio? The example he gave was that you're at the grocery store and someone bumps someone else and one of them pulls out a gun to resolve the situation. He honestly believes that we are all as small-minded as he (and Homer!).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIpLd0WQKCY
The Simpsons, Season 9, Episode 5...The Cartridge Family.
Armed citizens are a danger to the politicians. Democrats are not stupid, they know why the founders put it in the constitution.
Disarm the many, to save the few..
Quinn, you suck. You can get a ccw in Detroit, or Gary. What makes Chicago any different. Also screw you daley, madigan alvarez and the other assorted Illinois demagogues.
Quinn needs to explain exactly why the folks in the other 48 states are so much smarter than the people of Illinois. Quinn=asshat.
The best is the reverend at the press conference saying, in garbled English at best,
What happens when the bad guy uses a bb-gun to stick up the citizen carrying the real gun, then takes that real gun, and then uses that real gun to commit a crime and we have bloodshed..
You fucking idiot!!!!!The guy using the bbgun would be worm food, and life would go on with one less piece of shit.
This is the kind of intelligence we are dealing with...NONE!!!
"Gov Quinn needs to take a walk down Michigan Ave or the Red Line without his security detail and see how long it takes before he either changes his mind, or we're calling for Lt. Gov. Sheila Simon."
how about a walk down 79th and Cottage Grove, or 115th and Michigan, or Roosevelt and Pulaski.....all by himself, at about midnight on a warm evening....just to meet his voters
I can only warn retired police officers who carry under HR 218 and active police traveling out of state, that I haave been warned by retired officers in NY and NJ that you face arrest in those states. They refuse to recognize this federal bill and retired officers have been arrested, although none convicted. They speculate that someone will sue them for false arrest and the arrest will become a test case with the intent to overturn the federal law as intrusive on the states rights. Ny and NY offer no provisons for their retired officers to obtain the carry card under HR 218.
SCC
thank you for being a friend to the 2nd ammendment.
thank you for supporting concealed carry!
www.illinoiscarry.com
isra
"I don't think we're in the business of trying to increase danger to the people of Illinois. We want to work with our law enforcement and prevent bad things from happening," the governor said at a morning news conference.
This is the typical response from liberals and bleeding hearts. What they should not be in the business of is denying the Constitutional rights of American citizens, no matter where they live. Bad things happen in an instant and nobody has a cop in their back pocket to whip out in response. Quinn is cut from the same cloth as all the other liberals who are protected by men with guns but deny you the same right.
Quinn is a moron.
Anonymous 5/04/2011 02:16:00 AM said...
Oh God, 31/2 more years of this asshole in control of the state
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Not really. This is really no different than when Harold Washington snagged the mayor's office. Quinn may be sitting in the "driver's seat" but before he can start the engine he has to beg and plead with Mike Madigan who's holding the keys.
Quinn is an idiot. He should be listening to the people of the state... not those tinny voices in his head that keep misdirecting him.
I agree with poster Shawn.
Quinn is shortening prison sentences of convicted felons and
releasing them back into society
and threatening to block legislation that will give citizens
a right to carry a firearm to protect themselves when these felons go back to their former ways
and confront the citizen in a criminal way. And you can rest assured that said felon will have a
gun. So why not give citizens an equal chance pack a gun and protect
themselves and perhaps save their
own life or someone elses life from
these hoodlums because they are still violent and have no regard for their own lives or anyone elses. Governor Quinn is clueless as to what is transpiring in Chicago or the entire state and trying to be "Mr. In-Between" is'nt
going to cut it. He needs to grow a
pair and protect the interests of the voters, after all, they are the ones paying his salary, and his room and board.
Perhaps if the pussies at F.O.P. would have supported concealed carry it might have had a chance, now I have two more assholes on my vote no list
Anybody but Quinn in 2014....
How about that idiot activist trying to justify this travesty. Pick pocketing someone with a real gun? Robbing someone with a replica bb gun? The victim of these "what if's" would simply blast away the threat did you ever think of that. Com'on and this is the person that represents the community?!
Three teenage animals from 025 just got arrested in 012 for running up to a passerby and attacking him. Not to rob him, just to attack him. When asked what they were doing in 012 they stated "we was on our way downtown to start some shit." So I guess this was a test run. WTF !?!? Carry conceal would nip this in the bud but I guess we're just going to have a looooong summer of this kind of bullshit. Stay safe kids.
99% of crimes with handguns are commited with unregistered handguns , by people who would not qualify to carry concealed
all law abiding citizens should get an foid card , buy a small 22,38 or 380 and carry it for your protection
the life you save may be your own
fop and citizens of chicago should organize a protest if mayor daley keeps any police officers to guard his family
$180,000 a yr pension let him hire private security
BUBBLE HEAD IS SCARED THAT THE SOUTH SIDE NATIVE OF DOLTON CHICAGO HEIGHTS AND DIXSMOOR WILL REVOLT FROM THE STATE.
A POLITICIAN CREED
Always keep the people off balance. Never give the appearance that all is well in this country/state/county/city. You must always keep fear in the hearts of people so there is always the perception "We need Government intervention!" Never author, introduce or pass any COMMONSENSE legislation for you will eliminate the fear or a future need. Stall any bill that would remotely enhance the lives of the people. Always maintain a state of panic in the lives of the people so that they are in constant need of your service. When the time comes to extend your hand to help the people will be appreciative of any small gesture.
Signed
A CAREER POLITICIAN
ALL secuirty details should be taken away from ALL politicians and others getting them. ALL civilian permits should be taken away. Put the Cops back on the street.
Make this a law and watch them bitch & wine.
If a trained IL.citizen is not allowed to protect themself and there family WHY should others have the right.
Follow the Governor's implied meaning: If you are not on the clock, don't carry and therefore decrease the "danger to the people of Illinois...."
Our biggest problem with Quinn is he's going after our pension and will try to reduce the benefits for current employees If he can do it for state employees he will help change the state law regarding our pension
"Because they think that all people have as little control over their emotions as they do.
Libtards are notorious for that."
People who write things like that about us liberals make me scream at the top of my lungs for hours, sob uncontrollably, have a nervous breakdown, kick my dog, beat my wife and send money to the World Commie Conspiracy!!!
Daley and Quinn are both retarded pussies. They have both used the argument that people will bump into each other and then start shooting.
That may be how your ignorant, inbred family reacts Daley (Vanecko is a case in point) but the rest of the normal people in this state are decent enough to carry responsibly to protect against the animals you have allowed to run amuck in this city.
Just vote Quinn out next election.
Then everyone can carry a gun. Of course, it will mean you have to give up your pension, but that's a small price to pay.
Yeah, Qweef, I mean Quinn. Forty-nine out of fifty states have it, but Illinois must be different and deny the Constitutional RIGHT to KEEP and BEAR arms.
These un-American pieces of shit need to go. All of you lazy asses who didn't get out to vote against this asshole should be proud of yourselves.
The State of Illinois, County of Cook & City of Chicago are & will continue to be a complete mess & totally corrupt.
I cannot understand how/why they do not welcome the House Bill authorizing retired officers to carry their weapons concealed. This provides thousands of extra security across the country which would not otherwise be there.
I have retired & now live in Colorado. I jest went & qualified at the Larimer County Sheriffs gun range & was treated like a member of their family. They could not have been any nicer. Myself, an officer retired from Hawaii & another from Minnesota all qualified & can continue to carry our weapons as we wish across the country.
From my understanding CPD retired officers must drive to Will County or other counties in order to be able to carry their weapons.
I guess we all expected this from them.
Conceal carry is set to be voted on Thursday. Call your rep. to voice your position,
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State Rep John Cavaletto Wonders If Daughter In Law Would Still Be Alive If Concealed Carry Law Had Been In Effect
5/3/11 @ 8:15:31 pm
State Representative John Cavaletto is questioning if the murder of his daughter-in-law Michele Cavaletto along a rural Walnut Hill Road could have been prevented if legislation had been in place allowing people to carry concealed firearms in public. Cavaletto made the remarks during debate in the House Agriculture and Conservation Committee. The comments came the same day that Governor Pat Quinn said he would veto any conceal carry bill that reached his desk.
With Cavaletto's vote, the committee eventually sent the bill to the full house on a 12 to 1 vote. "I had a daughter-in-law walk three years ago on a Saturday morning and she never came back home. She was hit by a car and drug into the bushes. The man came back a few hours later and stabbed her 13 times. I always said if Michele had a gun in her fanny pack when she went for a walk she may have been able to save herself. She lived on a farm and knew how to shoot a gun and if she would have had one things may have been different," Caveletto reasoned.
more >> http://www.wjbdradio.com/index.php?f=news_single&id=26832
Time to ban together, sue Mr Pat a tohead Quinn, and demand the same rights guaranteed in the Constitution and passed in numerous other states, with statistics to prove positively that concealed carry reduces crime. Then recall or impeach Quimmy. Also time to picket Illinois State Fair when Quimm is there.......picket for Concealed carry, and to repeal his sky-High Taxes.
Jennifer Loudon, the wife of slain Chicago Police Officer Thor Soderberg, appeared with [Illinois Governor Pat] Quinn to plead with lawmakers to oppose conceal carry.
"I cannot imagine a reason you need to carry a concealed, loaded weapon unless you're willing to use it on another human being," Loudon said."I do not want another family to ever have go through what our family has had to go through."
(While I understand Ms. Louden's grief and sadness, I do not understand why she allowed herself to be used as a prop?)
Quinn-bitch should not be allowed armed ISP bodyguards. He should lead by example. Our lives are just as important as his, and we have the right to Keep and Bear Arms. Use it or lose it...
I too have spent time in CCW states, particularly Texas, where(gasp!!) people walk around with guns on them. In broad daylight!!! What this doofus Quinn fails to get through his thick head is that decent people don't pull guns on each other. Private citizens carrying concealed weapons are no threat to other decent people or to law enforcement officers. If only Bill Brady had won the election................
The most central point to this discussion is that we have 20+ years of data and 48 states to reference. Yes, when Florida was the first state to pass a statewide shall-issue CCW in 1987, some of the questions were perfectly valid... Would there be "gunfights at stoplights"? Would the blood run in the streets over trivial arguments if we let permitted individuals carry defensive sidearms?
Well, the results are in. We have almost 25 years of casework to reference and the answer is no, those things just do not happen.
The next time you bring up CCW and the anti gun rights morons start blabbering their little "scenarios", make sure to point out that we aren't asking how many angels fit on the head of a pin anymore. This is a question that was asked 24 years ago in Florida and for the past couple decades, in 48 of the 50 states, we've figured out the answer.
-- Southeast Side Chicago, Hegewisch Neighborhood.
Chicago Code got cancelled.
Outstanding, its a dumb show.
Simple fact. In cities that allow CC, car jackings decreased. Period.
Time for Quinn to go like Daley!
Assholes that flock together!
Da Pelon
What a freakin moron!
"What is it about Illinois democrats that makes them believe something that is legal in 48 other states (soon to be 49) won't work here in Illinois?"
"Because they think that all people have as little control over their emotions as they do."
--5/04/2011 12:19:00 AM
Boy, that is a breakthrough observation!
I salute you.
So true. I was enjoying what I call the "phalanx," the mass of bodies gathered behind Quinn to "back him up" during his anti-gun pronouncements. Weirdos large and small, of all shapes and sizes, emphatically nodding like donkeys, some looking as though a burst of tears would help demonstrate their utter sincerity about the complete wrong-ness of "guns."
Still, I pray daily for Pat Quinn's continued good health and vigor.
Why?
Sheila Simon.
"...they ignore the illegal immigration laws that endanger the law abiding citizens and they grant the criminals sanctuary,impunity..."
--5/04/2011 12:21:00 AM
...free food and medical care, free schooling, 0% + 0% + 0% (to start with) sign-and drive car payments and mortgages and bank accounts without benefit of the Social Security number required of Americans. "Su credito no es problema!"
I guess not...
Quinn was using Thor Sodergerg's wife to speak on why concealed carry was not a good idea. I really hate when they use a tragedy survivor as a shill like that. A concealed carry weapon by a private citizen wasn't an issue in Sodergerg's death.
Please call your local representative, congressperson, Quinn's office etc etc. It's not too late - light up the phones!!!!!
It looks as if this might get to a vote on Thursday 5/5/11...
Quinn is a part of the globalist mafia that wants to completely disarm this country just like they did in England and Australia. Our new mayor is a huge anti-gun asshole and so is Barry Soetoro who sent Rahmbo here. They will do anything they can to keep the guns away from peoples' hands and this is a perfect example.
If Illinois passes concealed carry there will be alot less democrat voters.
A wise old Judge once told me"the most important job a politician has is getting himself re-elected".Fuck the people.
Call your elected officails and tell them to vote for HB148.
I can only warn retired police officers who carry under HR 218 and active police traveling out of state, that I haave been warned by retired officers in NY and NJ that you face arrest in those states. They refuse to recognize this federal bill and retired officers have been arrested, although none convicted. They speculate that someone will sue them for false arrest and the arrest will become a test case with the intent to overturn the federal law as intrusive on the states rights. Ny and NY offer no provisons for their retired officers to obtain the carry card under HR 218.
5/04/2011 08:46:00 AM
Thank you for the warning. NYC and NJ are two shitholes I would not visit regardless of their stance on retired/concealed carry. And the remainder of NY is way too liberal for any person with common sense. Illinois is next to be added to the list of NO GOOD REASON TO EVER VISIT!
The time is long overdue for the law abiding citizens of Illinois to legally carry concealed handguns, if they so choose to do so. During my law enforcement career, there have been numerous incidents where the ready access of a handgun protected a citizen from an armed criminal, hell bent to injure or kill the citizen during the course of a criminal act. I fully support HB 218. It is the right thing to do.
Work safe!
John Andrews
In our Republic of Illinois I always think of the line from the movie Blade Runner; "you know the score pal, if you're not cop, you're little people."
Quinn was using Thor Sodergerg's wife to speak on why concealed carry was not a good idea. I really hate when they use a tragedy survivor as a shill like that. A concealed carry weapon by a private citizen wasn't an issue in Sodergerg's death.
Like Quinn, I'm not a police officer either. Unlike Quinn, I understand the difference between a law abiding person with a concealed-carry gun versus a ghetto thug criminal who completely disregards the laws
with illegal gun ownership and murder.
Not really. This is really no different than when Harold Washington snagged the mayor's office.
Washington's reign was 1983 through 1987, which is now ancient history. It's time to move forward, not look back. :)
Got to love Texas. That's why criminals are flocking from there and coming to Illinois, the criminal friendly state.
How is it that Gov. Quinn has forgotten already he serves the people not his own agenda. Quinn, the people of Illinois want the death penalty AND concealed carry. How dare you end the death penalty based on your beliefs alone. The death penalty issue should have been a referendum and let the people decide, the people you SERVE. Who the fuck are you to shove your beliefs down the throats of the peple of Illinois. I'm so sick of these jagoffs in power who feel they speak for me. How quick they forget that they were elected by the people and they are not Kings. You need to take the pulse of the people and quit deciding for me what you think is best. Fuck you and your idealistic no death penalty and now this concealed carry bull shit. Hey King Quinn, you don't speak for me.
"(While I understand Ms. Louden's grief and sadness, I do not understand why she allowed herself to be used as a prop?)"
They got to her while she was vulnerable, just like Ron Holt and Mike Ceriale's parents.
Those of us who can take care of ourselves scare those of us who cannot.
That's why the libs are against concealed carry. They prefer to have government make the decisions for them and to "take care" of them.
It's the same image that they foisted upon "survivalists," as if it was something bad to prepare yourself for natural or man-made disasters.
Hell, now they recommend preparing yourself for such things. See www.ready.gov
"I too have spent time in CCW states, particularly Texas, where(gasp!!) people walk around with guns on them. In broad daylight!!!"
I love it when they compare the responsible carrying of a firearm to the "Wild West."
I'd be willing to be that there was less violent crime per capita in the wild west than there is today in Chicago.
re: "Fingerprint All Guns?"
One of the biggest problems with this idea is that the ISP lab ONLY tests for DNA. They are fingerprinting fewer and fewer guns these days (The state's broke, remember?).
They send the guns to be fingerprinted to CPD forensics and there is only one guy who does the fingerprinting on the guns, as well as for burglaries, thefts, etc.
There isn't enough time in a day for one guy to fingerprint all the guns we take in.
"Quinn Wants More Victims"
Aren't we already his victims?
Hell, even convicted felon George Ryan temporarily lowered the gas tax when prices spiked in 2001.
One more reason to add RECALL to the voters' repertoire.
Illinois/Chicago has some of the most stringent gun control,yet has one of the highest violent crime rates.
This guy was always thought to be a goof. I'll bet that Gov. Goofy has an armed security detail that chauffeur's his pathetic ass around. He is like the shankster, do as I say, not as I do. The next time that asshole has to run for re-election let's not forget what this guy did. He has abolished the death penalty, stalled conceal carry, and is pushing the Dream Act. I am 100% Irish and I REALLY HATE almost every Irish politician. Daley, Quinn, Madigan, Durbin The Turban, our pro terrorist senator. I don't have time to name every Irish wanker politician. This country needs a mid course correction. How about lecting a pro American politician. Not some self serving assholes.
Quinn is a moron.
What the fuck do you have against morons to defame them by comparing them to Quinn?
meanwhile up in Wisconsin conceal carry gets gov. support,
http://host.madison.com/ct/blogs/article_fcfafac6-767a-11e0-8e7a-001cc4c03286.html
I just read this morning that Quinn has discontinued Illinois' participation in the Federal deportation program of illegals who commit felony offenses because evidently some who have commited misdemeanors have been deported.
Quinn doesn't like that so he idemnifies illegals from the law and he ignores the law in the case of the 2nd Amendment!
The Democrats are intentionally planting the seeds to create a crisis in this state so they can maintain total and permanant control.
He pulls this shit after he folded and did nothing on the political reform front but to make Madigan and the combine more powerful.
What a turd.
Buck Naked
(not a cop)
Perhaps if the pussies at F.O.P. would have supported concealed carry it might have had a chance, now I have two more assholes on my vote no list
Lets see Pension/Collective bargaining rights or Right to carry? Ohh, I already have right to carry, I'll take PENSIONS!
If the politicians feel that they
require armed security details to
protect them from the populace, then it would stand to reason that
the average citizen needs to carry
a weapon to protect his or herself
from the bad guys because they can't have the luxury of a Police
Officer following them around for
protection. Because they, the citizens can get shot anywhere, on the streets, in their vehicles, or even when they are in their homes !
Just vote Quinn out next election.
Then everyone can carry a gun. Of course, it will mean you have to give up your pension, but that's a small price to pay.
5/04/2011 12:15:00 PM
Please explain your wisdom, or lack thereof.
"How is it that Gov. Quinn has forgotten already he serves the people not his own agenda."
Forgotten? He never felt that way from day one. He's a democrat of the worst ilk; the kind that knows better than you and I. He knows what's best for us, or so he thinks.
"I too have spent time in CCW states, particularly Texas, where(gasp!!) people walk around with guns on them. In broad daylight!!!"
I love it when they compare the responsible carrying of a firearm to the "Wild West."
I'd be willing to be that there was less violent crime per capita in the wild west than there is today in Chicago.
5/04/2011 11:42:00 PM
back in the day, there were more homicides on (then) Beat 211 in one year, then in all of seven western states combined....has anyone looked at Chicago's latest totals, as opposed to Idaho, North/South Dakota, Colorado, etc.?
Can anyone tell me where to get one to the new "Luger/Tec9/45cal. automatics) Duh Mayor talked about in his anti-gun rant to the city council?
yeah Quinn making Illinois safer my ass!
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Illinois withdraws from federal immigration program
Gov. Pat Quinn and state lawmakers Wednesday cast Illinois as a sympathetic voice in the nation's volatile immigration debate with two actions that run counter to a wave of pro-enforcement measures approved or under consideration in Arizona and other states.
Quinn's office on Wednesday sent a letter to the Department of Homeland Security declaring the state's formal withdrawal from Secure Communities, a federal deportation program that targets hardened criminals but has also been used against illegal immigrants arrested for misdemeanor crimes.
more >> http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/news/local/ct-met-state-dream-act-0505-20110504,0,2029177.story
The lack of a CCW law here in IL has not only made this state more dangerous for the public in terms of street crime, but it also has set us square in the sights of muslim terrorists. Terrorists will always try to attack the weakest target, and right now,IL and WI are the weakest targets, since niether state has CCW. With Chicago the "home town of Obama", and with the security in NY, LA and DC so much higher, that makes Chicago a very tempting target, since the terrorist know that they only have to worry about the Police, there are no armed citizens for them to worry about, making us all very vulnerable. If you doubt this, do a little research on the Beslan Russia school take over vs. the way that schools in Israel are run. Beslan, with no armed citizens (at least not initially) vs. Israel with many armed citizens. In Beslan, the death toll was in the hundreds, mostly children. Israel has never had a successful school take over, never. There have been a few attempts, and they all resulted in the terrorists dead before the body count could go past a few. CCW makes us all a little bit safer, by making our State and City a harder target for both criminals and terrorists!
I just hope that law abiding citizens carry concealed anyway. Fuck Illinois politicians.
Citizens can't protect themselves while fucking Daley gets around the clock police protection plus two cars even into retirement.
Fuck that shit.
TO: 5/04/2011 08:46:00 AM
RE: Retired PO's being arrested by NY and NJ police.
Is this true or just some Snopes.com BS?
Is this a State and/or agency policy?
If this is not agency policy, then an officer that arrests someone because the officer does not believe in the Fed law faces the prospect of personal civil litigation. Which means he pays his own legal defense and damages.
Yeah, I know NY and NJ are left wing shitholes, but gotta have more proof on this to fly.
Greetings from Montana, I moved here 14 years ago from the Shitty of Chicago. I didn't want to become a convicted felon. I've never been convicted of any crime in my 67 years on the planet. I always carried a gun my whole adult life in Chicago, I'm sure I wouldn't be here now had I not have been able to defend myself. I never had to shoot anyone however the sight of my .45 usually did the trick.
Quoted below, how could these politicians be so clueless?
People aren't bringing Twinkies and Ho Hos to Navy Pier and Independence Day fireworks.
Via Detective Shaved Longcock:
Rep. Monique Davis, D-Chicago, said she cannot get beyond the violent deaths of Chicago police officers.
“I, too, like the John Wayne movies,” Davis said. “I like those movies about the Wild West where everybody’s carrying a weapon and everybody’s shooting at each other. We don’t live in those days any more… America is no longer the Wild, Wild West. I urge a no vote.”
Outgoing Rep. Harry Osterman, D-Chicago, warned the legislation would lead to people bringing guns to places like Navy Pier and create tragedy.
"This will add to injury, to death," said Osterman, who was recently elected to the city council.
Rep. Marlow Colvin, D-Chicago, said downstate lawmakers come from places that are much different from the more dangerous streets of Chicago. He feared what would happen if concealed weapons were allowed at an event like the Independence Day fireworks in Chicago, where a million people may turn out.
“Talk about powderkeg,” Colvin said. “One size does not fit all.”
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