Interesting Rumor
Someone starting shit? Or something else?
- This tid-bit just gleaned from H.Q Staff Meeting. Public Transportation Section will become the Chicago Transit Police ala New York, a seperate entity. Grant money from Uncle Obama.
Didn't someone write a while back about J-Fed interviewing with Claypool. HMMMM
Maybe one or more of our NYPD lurkers can explain this proposal. Is it a separate department? Is it staffed by the same people? Or is it an entirely new department built from the ground up? It sounds way too bizarre as well as way too political to fly in Chicago.
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
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U don't remember the CHA police or the park police before them? Or the other separate police entities which were combined into CPD? Nothing new here, but if they make a new department, that's another 250 police on the streets and by rahms count 750.
What's even MORE bizarre is that ANYONE would turn another Chicago-area Police agency over to the blundering, idiotic hands of Jody P. Weis himself!
Claypool does this, he's proven himself to be nothing more than another Machine hack, who will NEVER win another election in this City or County again!
If a Transit Police Agency is going to be formed, so be it. ANYBODY but J-Fled to run it!
Yeah, make it another cha police and retirees can get hired.
The transit police in New York City are NOT a separate entity. It's the exact opposite. As of 1994, the NYC transit and housing police (which were separate agencies) merged with the regular NYPD. Same thing happened here when the Chgo Park District police department was absorbed into the CPD in 1959.
Check your source. It's wrong.
Well maybe. CHA police were hired with Federal money and took over the projects. When the money ran out, the Chicago Police Dept. expanded the Public Housing Unit and took it over again. Send everyone one assigned to the PTS back to the districts and hire Chicago Transit Police with Federal money to take it over. When the Federal money runs out, the Chicago Transit Police will be disbanded and taken over by the Chicago Police Dept. once again. Sounds familiar.
Beautiful.
Providing a zone on impunity for the politically connected to flee to and do nothing while maintaining their social-economic position on the Maslow pyramid.
See we eliminated the duplicate jobs. They're doing the same thing that they were doing for a totally separate agency.
,,,,and that saves the taxpayers money how? By wasting Federal grant money instead of State grant money. We're still taxed for it.
Ny had a Transit Pd but they folded them into NYPD when Guliani got in, Jack Maples and Bratton blueprinted that.. can't see it happpening here but that unit should be no bid and fully manned, as it is now it is nothing but absolute do-nothings that bid in and retired...
Didn’t the CTA used to have its own Police Force back in the EARLY 70’s???
Long ago the CTA had their own police and actually they did a good job. So naturally they had to be disbanded.
I would say it's a great idea. Another place for clout to rest it head. You can only move so many retired gold stars to run the airport or navy pier. Why did not they think of this along time ago?
There used to be a separate police unit employed by the CTA many years ago. They busted a pal of Jane Byrne’s with a garage of CTA equipment and she retaliated by disbanding them – that’s when the special employment gig started because of the public reaction.
If this is going to be the product of some grant money it will probably only last as long as the money lasts and the poor slaps who join up with end up being screwed like the housing police were.
However the extra man power on the street would help and let’s hope those special employment hours are replaced by something like more liberal overtime to fill empty cars on the watches.
It once was separate along with housing but has since been merged with NYPD. There is no longer a separate Transit Police.
Will they call it the Chicago Port Authority, or come up with something equally unoriginal?
Yeah, and after we get the transit police, then it's time for the Park District police. 3 feifdoms is better than one, right?
Toss in a Chicago Public Schools Police force, and more exempt titles everywhere.
Chicago had a CTA PD that Jayne Byrne disbanded in 1980 or so. It never had the number of officers that MTU had. Also, back then CPD still had a MTU.
As I recall NYPD absored both the Housing PD and Transit PD makibg for the giant 40k department.
Not really a rumor SCC, this is going to happen in some form. One of the names being thrown around, outside of J-Fled, is G-Mac's buddy Schmear. It appears that at the police officers funeral last week during some of the down time the four power brokers were having some talks. There was the Rahmfather, Eddie Burke, G-mac, and the guy in the brown overcoat, Schmear. Ask anyone who was there, the guy does exist and he was closer to G-Mac than a fly on Sh*t. After the meeting the other day the talks came up again about how G-Mac and Schmear both have ties to NYC.
This is gonna happen.
How the f*ck are they going to start up an entirely new city department when they can’t even hire enough officers for the CPD? Grant money runs out fast and the casinos aren’t approved yet and when they are, it will take time to build them.
NY Transit Police was a completely separate entity from 57 to 95 when it was "Integrated" into the NYPD.
It is currently a separate Division with permanent details
There used to be 3 separate police departments in New York City...
NYPD
Housing Police
Transit Police
Merged by Rudolph Giuliani.
Here is the problem, G-Mack doesn't want to be here, he hates the fact he must cowtow to the Mayor. He wants to run a police dept without all the outside interference. HOWEVER, he can't just get up and quit, WHY? Rahm has him by the sack, the feds, (BO) has sent DOJ into Newark and if GMack even tries to do something here on his own the DOJ will quietly move him from standing besides them in the photos to in front of a judge.
Well it was a thought......
My buddy who works at HQ, and who is in the know, kind of like Sid Hudgens, well anyway, he says that Schmear is goona get it.
I recall the old CTA police department. I worked special employment on the CTA and a lot of interaction with them. I thought they were very good, hard nosed and always around. The CPD mass transit unit has, for years, been a playground. The tact teams get lost for most of their tours, used to hide out at Blackies and a private club up north, not worth a damn. It is rare to see a uniformed office on the trains. I say, yes, bring back the CTA department.
I call BS, the NY Transit Police, the NY Housing Police merged with the NYPD back in the mid 90s. All one big family with the same uniform.
Part of the reason they have 40,000cops (or as they call themselves MOS--Members of the Service)
The transit police in New York City are NOT a separate entity. It's the exact opposite. As of 1994, the NYC transit and housing police (which were separate agencies) merged with the regular NYPD. Same thing happened here when the Chgo Park District police department was absorbed into the CPD in 1959.
The above post is accurate. My understanding is that while NYC merged their Transit & Housing Police into the NYPD, for the most part many of the members remained in their respective units.
When I came on in 1968, the CTA Police were kick-ass. Their 'pickpocket' unit kept photo albums in those storage lockers at various stations.
They would respond with us at theft victim calls, pull out their albums and do a photo array right on the scene when memories were the best and often times got a positive I.D. from their known 'picks.'
We always had a good working relation with these guys, many who then went on to be the CPD.
As far as a restart of this unit... a pipe dream, because of manpower and funding.
If it materializes, it certainly won't be of the caliber or efficiency of past or as needed.
Just my 1/2 cent. (2 cents after inflation)
O'V (r)
PTS used to actually do some work, no it is filled with DOGS. The person directly responsible for this is MLAS C/O D. Oneil. He pushed for a bid process in the unit. Once that happened all the dogasses piled in and barley answer the radio when called. This unit needs to be disbanded and start a new one, new name, and put people in there who want to be there. Will there still be dogs, of course, but Gmack needs to the let the commander and supervisors, be supervisers. If someone needs to go, they need to be allowed to get rid of them. You dont need DTEB protecting his girls like he already does in narcotics, vice, etc. DTEB is an american sheik, with a full blown harem, speaking of blowing how does that moron Lt KM stay in that office, oh wait I just answered my own question..
That would work , cpd has to many officers assigned to mass transit.
CPD could use those officers back in a district , CTA's private security does a good job now , always on trains , not hiding.
"It sounds way too bizarre as well as way too political to fly in Chicago."
Huh?
"Bizarre and political" DEFINES Chicago!
As 6/01/2011 12:05:00 AM instantly recalled, "You don't remember the CHA police or the park police before them? Or the other separate police entities which were combined into CPD?"
Oh, yeah. Split off, divide, multiply, recombine, cut back, eliminate, merge -- government spends about 90% of time and money playing "amoeba." Its priority is to guarantee its own survival.
As Cheryl Hyman, Chancellor of the City Colleges of Chicago, famously said, "We're reconnecting the City Colleges so that you can reinvent yourself!"
"Will they call it the Chicago Port Authority, or come up with something equally unoriginal?"
--6/01/2011 05:04:00 AM
Chicago Port Authority will be fine; it'll become a heavy real estate player, taking control of the bridges and tunnels and all kinds of huge, never-ending, people-displacing, money-hemorrhaging construction projects.
This was part of my instinctive objection to importing the "East Coast Style." We have enough of this s__t here already, enough Outfit, enough no-bid phony "sewer-cleaning" companies and so forth, with the wealthy people involved hammering others to death on the sidewalk outside night clubs with no consequences...
bullshit
Personally, I think the CTA needs its own PD. What they have now for the most part is useless hacks who don't want to do a damn thing on the days they work it.
Having their own PD would probably work better than what's in place right now. The only way to keep it a good force if it comes to fruition is to keep it separate from CPD; merging it or allowing our exempt doofuses to manage it will sink it faster than the Titanic.
That would work , cpd has to many officers assigned to mass transit.
CPD could use those officers back in a district , CTA's private security does a good job now , always on trains , not hiding
u guy s should check ur info 1st before u make comments. The MTU is down to about 127 p/o s and some are doghandlers. The unit back in the day had over 400 coppers. Like the districts we all have to do more with less.Not to mention the unit took the cars away from the p/o s so if a call does come out they have to wait for a train to take them to the call.Between footpost,special att. and no manpower to cover 6 lines u now know why there is uaually no mass transit to answer a call.
why does MLAS need a commander /
a sgt should be the CO of MLAS
another political appointment , afraid to work the street
I said a few weeks ago that the PTU was on the block and everyone thought I was goofy. WaaLaa!
The Original Chicago Transit Authority Police Department from the '40's, '50's, '60's and early '70's was composed of Full time Sworn officers, at one time 350 or so, who patrolled the buses, trains and streetcars.
The had unmarked cars and their Stars were quite similar to the ones we just retired a few years ago (cpd was always getting beefs of rogue coppers that beat the crap out of somebody and left them in an alley).
They also had the best pick pocket detail in the country. They actually were brought into our academy to train the cpd and outside agencies on a regular basis.
The CTA was also the First Agency to Issue us Photo ID Cards (bus passes). CPD had never done this.
As mentioned above in other posts, their administration figured why pay for 350 cops when the city will do it out of the city budget.
They let the force dwindle to under 50, then CTA management ordered them NOT to make any arrests (crimes in progress, etc.) unless it involved damage to CTA Property and Grounds (they were made into security guards that only patrolled their property).
Then the incident with Jane Byrne frosted the cake and sealed their careers forever, those left (under 30 guys) were offered bus driver jobs or other CTA work per Union Agreement (they were sold out).
I believe their was a lawsuit that went on for many years but do not recall the results.
CPD was forced to take over the entire job.
Old Revolver Cop.
Fly out of Midway to Kansas City to visit family,who was on the aircraft but Rudy Guilinani the former mayor of New York and possible Presidential candidate! We talked he told me that the coppers in New York retired and active all get a check in December every year for $12,000 each X approx 60,000 coppers! The pension plan is 99% funded guess they made great investments while ours is stolen from,hey Mike Shields why are you so fucking quiet young man? You better start talking and take that silver spoon out of your mouth, the baby cereal you been eating is annoying! Stand up to be the man you must beat the man!
"Can you hear us now MICHAEL?"
Forgot in last post the former mayor Rudy had no bodyguards,was in charge during 9-11 did I say no bodyguards? But shortshanks has a crew of CPD guards and cars why??
Oh if McCarthy could just remake CPD in the mold of NYPD.We would all be so much better. Well you can just blow me you political hack.
At one time the New York City Transit Police and the New York City Housing Police were separate entities from the NYPD. They have since been consolidated with the NYPD.
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Fly out of Midway to Kansas City to visit family,who was on the aircraft but Rudy Guilinani the former mayor of New York and possible Presidential candidate! We talked he told me that the coppers in New York retired and active all get a check in December every year for $12,000 each X approx 60,000 coppers! The pension plan is 99% funded guess they made great investments while ours is stolen from,hey Mike Shields why are you so fucking quiet young man? You better start talking and take that silver spoon out of your mouth, the baby cereal you been eating is annoying! Stand up to be the man you must beat the man!
"Can you hear us now MICHAEL?"
6/01/2011 06:12:00 PM
NYPD has had a union for over 100 years. There is also a New York City Income Tax. the tax base there is, um somewhat higher than here.
Also there is no Daley family to loot the treasury.
NYPD went to a two, three and even a four tiered pension years ago and is trying to get another tier in there.
Schmear to be the "chief" of the new "transit police", with COMPLETE funding from the DHS because of the terrorist possibilities. The department is going to be 3000 officers. The CPD mass transit people will be given the option to laterally transfer over. It will be a completely different entity than the CPD, because it is entirely Fed funded. VERY RELIABLE SOURCE ON THIS ONE!
You forget that the CTA is still an extension of RTA and still relies on funds from Springfield to operate, just like PACE and METRA. They could make up another regional force or rename and expand the METAR Police to incorporate all those entities. METRA Police already handles calls for service on PACE buses.
"U don't remember the CHA police or the park police before them? Or the other separate police entities which were combined into CPD?"
CHA police was never combined into CPD, if it was I would have more seniority. Not combining still grates my ass, oh well I'm looking forward to the pending lawsuit to buy into the pension at a reasonable rate which would give me the option to bounce outta here in a few more years...long sigh, I kinda miss the high rises, fire lanes and breeze ways....
Shanks has cars and bodyguards since they couldn't give him and Maggie Link cards. It's all about entitlement.
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