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Cook County Board President Toni Preckwinkle, who boldly declared last month that the war on drugs has failed, said she’s talked with Chicago’s new police Supt. Garry McCarthy about halting arrests for low-level drug possession offenses.
Cook County Board President Toni Preckwinkle, who boldly declared last month that the war on drugs has failed, said she’s talked with Chicago’s new police Supt. Garry McCarthy about halting arrests for low-level drug possession offenses.
“I suggested to him that although the law is pretty clear that such possession is a violation of the law, that since the judges routinely and almost universally dismiss such low-level drug charges that the police might stop arresting people for this since it clogs up our jail and these people their cases will be dismissed out anyway,” Preckwinkle told reporters after Wednesday’s Cook County Board meeting.
Look, we're all in favor of streamlining the court system and making sure real evil-doers get punished. And we realize that small amounts of weed don't seem to be that big a deal, but the face remains marijuana is still illegal. If you want to reduce the court backlog and save money, go the full route and advocate legalization, not this half assed surrender. Stop being a political hack...oh wait. We see the problem.
If we had our way, only high potency weed would be legally sold because the more you smoke, the more sterile you become and you eventually breed the abuser out of existence. At least, that's the theory.
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64 Comments:
Great idea lock up no one! Would be perfect then we need no jail, no police,no JUDGES,nothing! What an ignorant bitch,hope they all hang around her HYDE PARK home maybe she could show them how to smoke the blunts!
Here's the problem, you still have to go in and inventory it,so you may as well lock em up.
That was my skull! I'm so wasted!
I don't do drugs anymore... than, say, the average touring funk band.
Absolutely correct SCC. Imagine the chaos for example if Chicago looked the other way on something like Illegal immigrants.
Hmmm, seems the 'war on murder' and 'the war on rape' etc. have failed too so why bother arresting anyone?
Send a message, book EVERYONE with weed and fill up County Jail.
As the old Hawaiian proverb goes:
Pakalolo mo' bettah; top of da line da kine.
Tax the bejezzus out of sinsemilla buds. All "home grown" from Hawaii and Northern California's "Emerald Triangle".
May I suggest ANOV domestic arrests?
By the time the couple ends up in domestic court, complainant drops the charges
Cool lol, if it is under 2.5 grams we do not have to inventory, and we can ANOV without a case report Uuuum....sounds good, but most likely shithead will not have an I.D. or will become repeat ANOV offender LMAO.
Don't really have an opinion on the legalization, but can someone explain to me how if CPD arrests someone with a small amount of weed, it would clog up cook county jail? Doesn't everyone arrested with small amount bond out from district level detention, get court date and case dismissed? How is county effected?
Oh shit guess what?
This is gonna mess up the "sweating the small stuff" broken window methodology isn't it?
Politicians creating more mockery of the laws.
if they legalize dope or weed, these tact teams are done- no more less then 2.5 weed arrests
Police have been suggesting tickets for minor charges years ago. Not a new idea
Yeah, well, like I said yesterday:
What, is she bucking for Anita's job now? Oh, hell; don't pursue illegal aliens, don't arrest anybody for marijuana, don't bother with those pesky laws at all.
Put the blinders on and don't do what you raised your right hand and swore to do, lo, those many years ago. Don't bother upholding the laws of this country and this state. Apparently, those laws are disposable and subject to the whim of the politicians.
7/27/2011 08:57:00 PM
How about issuing an ANOV and make them pay a fine for anything less then 10 grams? $75.00? $100? That should bring in some revenue. Have a 3 strikes policy?
Hey, those leeches and addicts elected her, what did anyone expect?
It isn't the judges. ASAs in the misdemeanor courts pretty much routinely dismiss every cannabis case under like 7 grams. That's a fact.
"If we had our way, only high potency weed would be legally sold because the more you smoke, the more sterile you become and you eventually breed the abuser out of existence. At least, that's the theory."
Hell, I'm with you SCC! I'm "fixed" and have 2 kids, looks like I'm havin fun with a blunt and a bag of oreo cookies this weekend!
If they legalize it, Phil's going to become a pot-head, again. Panama Red was awesome back in the 1970s. But the shit my cousin brought back from Hawaii was the best.
Mc Carthy was pushing it at the first or second COMPSTAT- saying the amount of time it takes to process the arrest wasnt worth the penalty metted out
The Supt. should tell Toni that the mechanism to resolve this issue is the legislature. The Supt. can not change state law.
Legalization is the way to go regarding weed. Tax it and make a few bucks off it.
Personally I'd prefer weed replace malt liquor as the drug of choice among the ghetto fabulous crowd.
Legalization will likely drop the price and hence the usage may go up a bit. I'd rather deal with someone who is toasted than a violent drunk. Bake the shit into brownies at County Jail. That should reduce the violence.
Unfortunately, the politicians don't have the testicular fortitude to legalize it. Probably cause they smoked too much of it during their youth and their testicles shrank.
Here are a few names of politicians who admitted to illegal drug use in their youth.
Clinton.
Gore.
Bush.
Palin
Cheney never used any weed but he had two DUI's.
Obama.
We're all hypocrites in one way or another, but politicians who used illegal drugs and advocate criminalizing drug use deserve a special place in public condemnation. Reminds me of the family values types who bang hookers or the Spitzer types who prosecute johns yet utilize horizontal entertainers themselves.
We need to worry about violence, theft, financial theft, and public order stuff.
Leave the drug war to the moralists like former drug czar Bill Bennett who is was a nicotine addict and compulsive gambler.
Oh but this is the new thinking as demonstrated countless times by our President, the self anointed elite don’t have to muck about with foolish laws or political processes. That sort of thing is only for us slaves. They’re wise and all knowing, therefore whatever they deem appropriate is law because they say so.
It starts out with small; harmless things and before you know it the rule of law is gone and you’re living in a dictatorship. Political correctness as determined by the ruling elite enslaves us all and you have not a single civil right.
“Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Führer”
"One people, one nation, one leader"
ANON. said -
It starts out with small; harmless things and before you know it the rule of law is gone and you’re living in a dictatorship. Political correctness as determined by the ruling elite enslaves us all and you have not a single civil right.
“Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Führer”
"One people, one nation, one leader"
7/28/2011 02:53:00 AM
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I doubt if that will happen.
Chicago is already turning into Dodge City and if the police are going to be impotent, people will start taking care of themselves.
There will be another Civil War.
Legalize all of it and then we don't have to worry about dealing with it anymore. Problem solved. Alcohol is legal but cannabis isn't. That makes alot of sense.
This dumb bitch doesn't want us to enforce the laws? Well, she needs to go to the State Legislature and have them rescind the cannabis control act or amend it. She is fucking nuts! She's already under my skin.
As a tact guy, the only time I care about dope is if I know I'm shutting down the block for the day. It's the only time I feel some sort of gratification for doing a dope arrest. Other than that, doing dope arrest is just silly.
Dear anonymous 2:53
Thank you for the trip down memory lane. Have you arrested any of those
Illegal Jews lately? What an asshole.
"Our government teaches the whole people by its example. If the government becomes the lawbreaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy."
Goes for the guys in the trenches too. You can't ignore the law and feel good about yourself.
Legalize weed. To the idiot who says that if we don't lock'em up for weed then we don't need jails,police, judges, etc, then you must not know of ALL the other crimes that get commited on a daily basis. I guess the only folk you ever locked up had weed. Stop being the part-time police!
Well well.... this certainly shoves McStupid's "broken windows' theory up his arrogant fucking ass doesn't it?
HA HA you fucktard!
Your little buddy Emanuel's gonna fuck you 9 ways to sunday and you'll be there in the media telling everyone how much of a great idea it is to stop "sweating the little stuff".
All your buddies back in NewGhetto must be laughing their asses off now knowing they're about to watch you shit all over your great policing theory.
This should let all who read witness how much of a political bitch you are and how you'll do anything to self promote your pathetic ass.
"Dave's not here man"
That brings back some good memories. You made me laugh out loud!
"Bailiff! Whack his pee-pee!"
"ALLa you wops get offa the lawn" (no offense intended)
I got an idea! I got an idea! Let's make gang-related murders legal. Our murder rate would become virtually non-existent; we would lead the nation in reduced violent crime, especially murder, and we all can get a new crime reduction ribbon. I like this!
So, because the fucking judiciary refuses to do their job the law must be changed? That's screwed up big time.
Hey Preckwinkle how about this novel idea- We keep arresting for the crimes and maybe the judge will actually hear the case and maybe enforce the law as written and use punishment(jail) not dismiss the case.
This wink and a nod method of weeding out charges early sure beats the wink and a nod that judges do all the time when they pronounce "no probable cause" perfectly good charges.
Those judicial winks and nods lead to civil suits. Civil suits against you guys. Civil suits that cost the City huge money to defend.
I agree Prekie's showing less than total integrity here. But it's better than the current lack of integrity in the judiciary.
Let's see, ANOV weed usage of small amounts.
No ID, go straight to jail without passing 600 W. Ontario.
Next idea please.
legalize it,regulate it,tax it...take away profit from mexico cartels...
free up police time and court time and jail time.....
40years of war on drugs proves it to be as foolish as prohibition of alcohol...
let's wake up
Maui wowie was the Hawaiian stuff.
How about this: either we lock up marijuana offenders or we start enforcing immigration laws? Preckwinkle you and rahmbo decide which one is more important
Why not make them smoke it all right at the point of the stop.
Save up the contraband and offer it to someone truely in need in exchange for information.
hey why not let officers smoke it if its not a big deal.
ask her?
tell her to start with the jail guards and let them roll blunts on lunch!
Retired CPD wonders where are all the negative [rightly so] commentators regarding the the one bag wonder police out there?
Just legalize everything. Kill the gangs. Stop spending the money on arrests, courts, DEA,incarceration, and so on and so on. Tax it, control it, stop wasting money on it. We all know that if you want to get an illegal drug, you can! Most of us have at one time or another. Only a certain % get hooked. I didn't. Most [99%] of my friends didn't. So what's the point of all the money and manpower if only a small % get hooked and are a drain on society. A certain amount will get hooked regardless of whether illegal or not.
Use the savings and taxes to treat those that do, through the programs that are already in place or create more effective new ones. This whole war on drugs is senseless and a huge waste of money and resources.
Face it! It has not worked.
we didnt loose the war on drugs....we lost the war on moral values. yes toni...lets throw out all the laws. we ll be just like somalia!
no more arrests for domestic battery , write paper and advise a warrant because baby mama rarely shows up in court .
smokin pot , way of life in many communities that voted for prriwinkiey
we also lost the war on responsible parenting.
SCC, stop talking your political commentary and pass the blunt already! You are holding up the line!!
Puff, puff, pass...
Hey, those leeches and addicts elected her, what did anyone expect?
7/28/2011 01:06:00 AM
No they didn't! These "addicts" and "leeches" you're talking don't even vote. Know what you're talking about or stfu....
She also whanted to pass a county law to let some imates out of jail, I guess I-Bond.
Well why have a jail.
only in cook county do they tell the police to stop locking people lightly up
"...
Preckwinkle noted that it costs taxpayers $143 a day to house someone in the Cook County jail..." (NBC)
"...She proposed directing money toward ... drug treatment"(WBEZ)
Because 28 days of rehab is free???
Here's the deal that will really work on the war on drugs, Marijuana SHOULD be legalized. Drug testing for for ALL jobs in this country should increase and if you want public aid and public housing you will be drug tested as well. The drug testing should be ongoing and random for all. THAT way, you want to eat, live, have a house and be happy DON'T DO DRUGS!!
DUDE, this is half baked.
"Dave's Not Here Man"
Ah yes! Cheech and Chong! Probably a lot of you youngsters aren't too familiar with them from the ol' marijuana smokin' 70's and 80's... Believe it or not, they released 10 comedy albums, out of which they released 10 or 12 singles and filmed a dozen movies!
"Hey man, you all wanna buy a watch? Come on, man looky here. I KNOW you ain't gotta watch, 'cause if you had a watch, you'd know it was night time, and night time ain't NO TIME to be in this here neighborhood!!!"
Just my two cents: I live in California where getting a medical marijuana card is easier than going to the DMV. What I find the most interesting - and maybe best selling point for legalizing marijuana - is that OTHER drugs are so much harder to get now. Where as a few years ago if someone wanted coke or mushrooms they just asked their dealer, who even if they didn't sell those drugs, they knew who to go to. Now, I get all my weed at a store where I can pick and choose what type I'm getting and I know exactly how it was grown and what hippy picked it. When I was growing up in Chicago - every dealer ALWAYS asked if I wanted to start doing harder stuff. I don't even know where to start in regards to finding that other stuff anymore.
Stop it already D machine. Hold fucking people accountable. A fucking company does not want to hire a pot head work force, We need companies to relocate to Illinois in order to provide revenue and jobs. All D's please retire and refuse your obsene pensions as a gesture or sorrow for the f--ed up society you've created.
just make it an ANOV for minor amounts. At least you'll (the city) could make a few bucks off the bust.
You CPD guys are lucky you don't have to work for Precwinkle. She's an idiot. For us at CCSPD, we have to deal with a real moron.
Dear anonymous 7:45....the fact you claim you only care about dope if it shuts down the block shows you probably have never done any dope other then a 1 or 2 bag hype. Narcotics don't shut down blocks. Sounds like you either get carried by the rest of your team or work in 010. Oh and by the way weed isn't dope tact guy. Silly?
Because 28 days of rehab is free???
7/28/2011 02:44:00 PM
because the 'rehab' industry dropped a big envelope.
Face it! It has not worked.
7/28/2011 11:12:00 AM
sure it has.
it's kept the 'black market' in controlled substances performing better than any other commodity market, world wide.
Hey, those leeches and addicts elected her, what did anyone expect?
7/28/2011 01:06:00 AM
No they didn't! These "addicts" and "leeches" you're talking don't even vote. Know what you're talking about or stfu....
7/28/2011 01:11:00 PM
Hey 1:11; You're the one who needs to wake up. Those leeches and addicts are an active part of the group that elects Democrats. Why do you think they (Dems) push so hard to hamstrin Law Enforcement and promote government dependence? They know that their constituent groups--leeches and addicts-- (with help from the Dem organization and it's "voter incentive" handouts) will come out in droves to vote for Dems. That's the way it's been since the '70s.
Weed should be made legal throughout this country.1) It costs so much to prosecute: holding down a 2 man car for 1-2 hours to get the guy in the back, lookup keepers, and then court personnel.2) It is no more harmful than alcohol.3) It provides more than 50% of the operating costs to major drug cartels like the Mexicans allowing them to push coke and heroin into the US.4) It has some marginal medicinal benefits.5) We could tax the shit out of it.6) We can make clothing, paper, rope, and plywood out of hemp that would be stronger than anything currently available. Look I'm a staunch conservative but the war on weed is pointless. To bell with the gateway drug theory too. You want to know another gateway drug ? ALCOHOL! Legalize and tax it, use it in industry, and let's all focus on the more dangerous drugs that are the real problem. Gotta go its miller time.
never ever happen--- to many young guns out there who think that a 1 gram weed pinch is real police work--- plus if it involves a vehicle you have a drug impound and the city makes money when pookie goes to get his ride out of the pound--- shitbird has to pay lab fee in court and goes to drug school to learn how to make a better blunt for next time.....
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