IAD Lieutenant Blows Positive?
We had no idea that the people running the Drugs Testing unit had already begun taking breathalyzer samples from people. Then we asked around and found out it starts for blue shirts next year but supervisors have been tested since the beginning of the year.
No idea if this rumor is true or not, but it would certainly call into question a lot of investigations if a higher-up in such a sensitive spot was in the bag during working hours.
No idea if this rumor is true or not, but it would certainly call into question a lot of investigations if a higher-up in such a sensitive spot was in the bag during working hours.
Labels: scandals
posted by SCC at 12:02 AM
94 Comments:
Wonder if any heads will roll? iad no way no balls will never touch this bullshit troublesome unit!
when the machine breaks down, we break down.
sgt barnes (platoon)
Disagree. HIS state doesn't reflect on his subordinates' investigations. Let's not paint everyone with the same brush.
I wonder if his vest was expired?
Yes it's true regarding supervisors having to blow
along with the urine test.
Heard these tests cost a lot of money, anybody know how much?
wow, that blows
yes we were told that this was the case during a PBPA meeting last year when we settled our contract. I can think of a few that retired just in time because of this fact.
A sergeant was nailed in June.
TRUE- Sgts. Lts. AND Captains will be tested randomly as usual except now it will be the peepee test and a breathalizer. one of our Sgts just did it last week Monday and showed me a copy which he recvd after blowing for his records. P.O.'s will be phased in next year.
If someone has a problem, hopefully they contact the EAP.
If the person does not contact the EAP, then I would suggest the individual OBTAIN A HOME BREATHALIZER! Obtaining a home breathalizer will allow individuals to administer a test in the privacy in their homes to themselves.
so, what happens if you come into work really hung over from the night before and have to blow?
Dont think there is a chance in hell that this is true. If by chance he blew and failed, they would jst say its not in effect until next year and this was just a test. Lt in a unit like that no, plus they would never ask him to blow in the first place
Anonymous said...
so, what happens if you come into work really hung over from the night before and have to blow?
7/28/2011 02:54:00 AM
Follow the orders Officer. No alcohol four hours prior to the start of your shift. If you can't do that then you really ought to think about your drinking. If the booze is a problem, there's always LSD. (BTW LSD is only traceable from a spinal tap. I'd love to see the the Dept. try to get a court order for that. Man.)
Confidential. That sounds like a problem.
Anonymous said...
If someone has a problem, hopefully they contact the EAP.
If the person does not contact the EAP, then I would suggest the individual OBTAIN A HOME BREATHALIZER! Obtaining a home breathalizer will allow individuals to administer a test in the privacy in their homes to themselves.
7/28/2011 02:19:00 AM
But they dumped PO's out of EAP, you know, to get more hard charging cops on the street.
The only assistance I want is in filling out my PAR form next year and getting the hell out of here.
Anonymous said...
so, what happens if you come into work really hung over from the night before and have to blow?
7/28/2011 02:54:00 AM
Call back or sign yourself in for treatment. Be aware of the alochol burn off rate. 90 minutes per 12 ounces of beer. Sad but true.
Anonymous said...
so, what happens if you come into work really hung over from the night before and have to blow?
7/28/2011 02:54:00 AM
Take all your clothes off and go running in circles screaming and barking at the sky and start frothing at the mouth. Do that until they take you to a hospital and then sign yourself in.
Can anyone translate what "in the bag" means?
Hey, what exactly is the peepee test? What if i dont have one?
If you have to purchase a home breathalizer than you are an alcoholic and need help.
Damn.. If he only got an event number for DUI training.
If you are hung over YOU will test positive.
Disagree. HIS state doesn't reflect on his subordinates' investigations. Let's not paint everyone with the same brush.
7/28/2011 12:24:00 AM
Yeah, so when he's higher than the Goodyear Blimp he's making sound judgments on peoples lives and careers.
I won't use a brush, I'm going to MAACO... Earl Scheib went to that great spray booth in the sky.
Anonymous said...
so, what happens if you come into work really hung over from the night before and have to blow?
7/28/2011 02:54:00 AM
Time for you to leave.
If you have to ask you are to dumb to be on the job...except as an exempt.
Is this the same Lt. who is on the list, along with ten others from IAD, to receive a department accommodation in August??? What could all these people from IAD and Human Resources have done to merit an award??
They don't do enough drug/alcohol testing on this job. They should do a massive test of everyone inside of one month and then do a second massive test one month later.
We would lose no less than 1000 officers. They could be replaced by cheaper recruits and we would all be better off.
This Lt. was picked by Chief RIVERA (IAD) who has been under the radar much to long!!!!!! and is the same Chief that also signed off on the Bailey report for KIRBY.
so, what happens if you come into work really hung over from the night before and have to blow?
7/28/2011 02:54:00 AM
Well if there's still alcohol in your system and you are still legally drunk then i guess that means you have a drinking problem and are fucked!!!!
That entire unit is a joke confidential section is nothing but a political spot for friends of the Chief of iad.
If this was a working Police Officer, they would crucify him. Since its a politically conected boss, its swept under the table.
The public does not know, but several bosses should have been sent to jail, but the politicians saved them.
Also, were is the States Attorney on this, Taking another vacation, or having lunch with her fellow crooked political buddies?
Dont think there is a chance in hell that this is true. If by chance he blew and failed, they would jst say its not in effect until next year and this was just a test. Lt in a unit like that no, plus they would never ask him to blow in the first place
7/28/2011 03:36:00 AM
They can't say it doesn't go into effect until next year because it's been in effect since the beginning of this year for supervisors (Sgts and Lts). It may get swept under the rug another way as always. Remember the rules are different for supervisors. Shhhh
He sure did,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, how many cases has this unit hid under the rug so the command staff dose not look bad
Capt. ang Lt. started in 2010, right after their contract was settled, Sgt's started 01 Jan 2011,anyone else will start 01 Jan 2012. same test, but now test for Steroids in "P", then you have to blow for the alcohol.......the test for alcohol in the "P" would be too much $$$$ so the city is saving by doing two tests!!!!
I believe that the C.O. of the IAD is a Lt., and that that Lt. is a female.
Can anyone confirm?
"so, what happens if you come into work really hung over from the night before and have to blow?"
If your BAC is over the limit, it will have a negative effect on your career.
Question is, what is the limit?
Yes, as far as testing. The white shirts random test along with blue shirts who discharge their weapons both must p-test and blow. IAD Sgt came to station for both after I had a weapon discharged. During the test performance he was answering questions about the GO and testing. Called FOP but they didn't seem to care because they never return both my calls concerning testing after downing a dog. Thankfully GOs are online and that's what the GOs make clear is happening.
Sorry folks, this is true. All supervisors called for random drug are required to blow now, and PO's next year.
I am told if you blow under .02, nothing happens. Between .02 and .04, you are sent home for the day, and must blow the next day to come up under .02. If you blow above .04, they strip you. However, it is not delineated anywhere what the procedures are from there. Once you are stripped, they dont have anything on what you have to do to get back to active duty. Rumors of mandatory alcohol counseling are out there, but cannot confirm that.
Yes, watch how much you have at a party the night before work. Dont come in if you are buzzed or hung over. Not worth the risk.
OT:
Talk about clout. A gang intell. Sgt gets stripped. How do they punish him? Send him to callback? no.
Let him stay at gang intell. working the desk and keep his take home car? yes.
It's true. The he was stripped after the test showed positive. I personnally heard him say, "I don't have problems, I make problems," Well how do you like the problem you made this time Lieutenant? You take too much joy in screwing over officers, how do you like the screw turning you?
Now I won't be able to stop before work..
I am still amazed that Commander KLIMAS and Chief RIVERA (both weis guys) are still there. unf....,bleivable. KLIMAS former fbi with a nice pension we could take that money and hire more cops for the street not just another rubber stamp
Disagree. HIS state doesn't reflect on his subordinates' investigations. Let's not paint everyone with the same brush.
It does if he directed, assisted or approved those investigations
So if I,m understanding this a Lieutenant from I.A.D. which i'm hearing was from confidential blows positive from random drug.WOW isnt this the "UNIT" that handles secret stuff and now you have the "BOSS" running this "UNIT" DRUNK. WOW again
How about a testoserone test for exempts?
there should be no issues he was ok by legal standards he blew a 0.063 well under the 0.8
he blew something equivalent to mouthwash.
I hope he sues.
Do they expect us to do this job sober?
We can figure out who blow hot, look at the next transfer order.
LT. from I.A.D. has been stripped
7/27/2011 07:06:00 AM
Who's gonna cover all those delinquent cases now, DS? Ooops.
Supervisors HAVE been required to submit to breathalizer since January 1st, it is administered when you go down for random drug analysis. A couple Sgts have been dinged on the breathalizer this year. If you blow over .004 for first offense you are sent home without pay, then subject to follow-up breathalizer. If a second offense occurs it is a cr# and the disciplinary process starts. P.O's will be tested starting this January (2012)
Random another F'ng joke. I've done the whiz quiz several times throughout my career& know 35 year vets that have never been tested once.
"so, what happens if you come into work really hung over from the night before and have to blow?
7/28/2011 02:54:00 AM"
What do you think? you blow & .09 THAT MAKES YOU SHITFACED FOR DUTY.
Another Dummy w/ a Gun & a Badge
"so, what happens if you come into work really hung over from the night before and have to blow?"
You are fucked.
So what's the punishment if you blow "hot"
So what happens then?
Serious question: I'm a patrolman that got sent down to piss a couple weeks ago and they just sent me again. I passed both times. Is the Captain or Commander fucking with me or is it just random luck?
They don't do enough drug/alcohol testing on this job. They should do a massive test of everyone inside of one month and then do a second massive test one month later.
We would lose no less than 1000 officers. They could be replaced by cheaper recruits and we would all be better off.
Any you are a complete moron and the fact that you decided to conjure up such a ridiculous post says it all.
If this was a working Police Officer, they would crucify him. Since its a politically conected boss, its swept under the table.
The public does not know, but several bosses should have been sent to jail, but the politicians saved them.
Also, were is the States Attorney on this, Taking another vacation, or having lunch with her fellow crooked political buddies?
7/28/2011 10:00:00 AM
???? Why do you need the states attorney on this. He/she blew for alcohol. I don't think this a criminal matter that needs the states attorneys office. CPD rules may be violated by being positive for alcohol but that is not criminal. Either way it will be swept under the rug and forgotten about in no time.(Right boss???)
hey 9.51am...WTF is a Department Accomidation? Are they going to give them days to accomidate a bad home situation?
You mean Commendation, you nitwit.....and people wonder why we are stupid.
It is so hilarious watching the morons on here scurry and pontificate as if they have any idea what the hell they are talking about.
You don't know about it, so it was obviously "swept under the rug".
How about admitting that a lot of what you think you know about this Department is rumor and flat out bullshit. A lot of it started right here by people who like to watch everyone jump through the hoops and retell it.
All of the people pointing fingers should be using this as a learning example: If you happen to stay up too late drinking, then get called for random at the start of your second watch tour, you will very likely encounter a life changing problem!
If things were "swept away" as easily as you think, he wouldn't be stripped right now.
If he is stripped and a LT in IAD then its very possible that any cases he has had contact with are now compromised. A good atty will question whether or not he was under the influence while reviewing cases for those under him and if he acted with sound judgement.
This now added to the IAd Agent thjat was stripped in Jun for residing in Park Ridge are just the tip of the ice berg. There have been many at IAd that have done investigations to sustain rather than to find the real story. Its time to dump a few people over there and not only losses but a few of those do nothing Agents, sgts, etc...
Oh and what did they do to get a dept commendation again?
Guys/Gals running around the ghetto and cant get awards due to bosses being lazy to write them up and IAd people getting them! A JOKE!
there should be no issues he was ok by legal standards he blew a 0.063 well under the 0.8
he blew something equivalent to mouthwash.
I hope he sues.
7/28/2011 12:34:00 PM
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Sorry dipshit, he is fucked. The contract says we can't have a BAC of .04...
"there should be no issues he was ok by legal standards he blew a 0.063 well under the 0.8
he blew something equivalent to mouthwash.
I hope he sues."
It's by contract, you moron. Who would he sue, the union?
They don't do enough drug/alcohol testing on this job. They should do a massive test of everyone inside of one month and then do a second massive test one month later.
We would lose no less than 1000 officers. They could be replaced by cheaper recruits and we would all be better off.
++
You are a "DOPE"
And if you havn't noticed, no one is being hired
CPD....
Just FYI...for all you worriers that feel WE are the only ones that ...make mistakes out here...
Take a look at this!
http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/Officials-To-Discuss-ATV-Crash-Investigation-126174473.html
It's true. The he was stripped after the test showed positive. I personnally heard him say, "I don't have problems, I make problems," Well how do you like the problem you made this time Lieutenant? You take too much joy in screwing over officers, how do you like the screw turning you?
7/28/2011 11:29:00 AM
You are so full of shit. The guy in question was NOT there to "screw" officers, quite the opposite. The person he replaced WAS there to screw coppers and took pride in doing it.
Take your head out of your ass and stop lying on here. You didn't hear him say that because he wouldn't say something like that!
Anonymous said...
so, what happens if you come into work really hung over from the night before and have to blow?
IF YOU HAVE ALCOHOL IN YOUR SYSTEM YOU HAVE ALCOHOL IN YOUR SYSTEM. NICE,WE HAVE A PO THAT IS DUMB ENOUGH TO ASK THIS.
GROW UP!
Serious question: I'm a patrolman that got sent down to piss a couple weeks ago and they just sent me again. I passed both times. Is the Captain or Commander fucking with me or is it just random luck?
7/28/2011 04:10:00 PM
Hey Dumbass, it doesn't come from your Commander or WC it comes from the random drug unit.
there should be no issues he was ok by legal standards he blew a 0.063 well under the 0.8
he blew something equivalent to mouthwash.
I hope he sues.
7/28/2011 12:34:00 PM
I agree with above posters reply. Whoever wrote this is a dipshit. First off burn off rate is 0.015 an hour, and that's an approximation. As far as ass hat above goes a 0.063 is not the equivilant to mouth wash. Get your shit straight hair gel.
Since Chief RIVERA. Put this "LT" in that spot maybe he should take his spot as a "LT"
Serious question: I'm a patrolman that got sent down to piss a couple weeks ago and they just sent me again. I passed both times. Is the Captain or Commander fucking with me or is it just random luck?
7/28/2011 04:10:00 PM
Serious answer. When the numbers for positives start to climb, people who tested clean recently are called back again (and sometimes a third time) to help bring the numbers back in line.
Don't want bad press on those numbers climbing, now do we? When I got called down a third time (I'm so boring, I never even touched the stuff in college), my lieutenant told them to find someone else to bring their numbers back down and he refused to send me the third time in three weeks.
Now, if there's a confidential on you and they believe they have good intel on you, your 'random' tests might not be so random.
Kind of like a certain s/w side guy who used to have parties on three day weekends, with little piles of coke laid out as 'favors'. But that was twenty years ago and I'm - ahem - sure that kind of thing doesn't happen anymore.
I believe that the C.O. of the IAD is a Lt., and that that Lt. is a female.
Can anyone confirm?
7/28/2011 10:15:00 AM
Are you referring to the Commanding Officer of a particular SECTION of IAD, or are you referring to the Assistant Deputy Superintendent of IAD? And, do you even know the difference?
Anonymous said...
Is this the same Lt. who is on the list, along with ten others from IAD, to receive a department accommodation in August??? What could all these people from IAD and Human Resources have done to merit an award??
7/28/2011 09:51:00 AM
I guess you haven't received a department accommodation yet new guy? Let us all know when you get accommodated by the department.
does eating a peppermint patty bar help?
I believe that the C.O. of the IAD is a Lt., and that that Lt. is a female.
Can anyone confirm?
7/28/2011 10:15:00 AM
Are you referring to the Commanding Officer of a particular SECTION of IAD, or are you referring to the Assistant Deputy Superintendent of IAD? And, do you even know the difference?
7/28/2011 11:47:00 PM
Pretty sure he said the C.O., yeah he said C.O. That would be the Commanding Officer.
Iam also pretty sure he Lt., yeah he said Lt. Which would not be the ADS, because an ADS is an ADS and a Lt. is a Lt.
Are you referring to the Commanding Officer of a particular SECTION of IAD, or are you referring to the Assistant Deputy Superintendent of IAD? And, do you even know the difference?
7/28/2011 11:47:00 PM
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I'm referring to a Lt. at the IAD, asshole.
Do YOU know the difference between a Lt. and an exempt??!!!
Officer Tool said...
Serious question: I'm a patrolman that got sent down to piss a couple weeks ago and they just sent me again. I passed both times. Is the Captain or Commander fucking with me or is it just random luck?
7/28/2011 04:10:00 PM
Someone dropped a dime on you!
Do they expect us to do this job sober?
7/28/2011 01:17:00 PM
apparently, they do.
ain't dat a bitch.
This sounds like Lt. JM, a confirmed drunk. Nothing will happen to him though, his Masonic brothers will bury this.
Travelling East
Nothing will happen, he's a boss. It will all go away, as usual.
Remember, in CPD, and the City Socialist Regimes, it's "Do as I say, not as I do".....
I believe that the C.O. of the IAD is a Lt., and that that Lt. is a female.
Can anyone confirm?
7/28/2011 10:15:00 AM
Are you referring to the Commanding Officer of a particular SECTION of IAD, or are you referring to the Assistant Deputy Superintendent of IAD? And, do you even know the difference?
7/28/2011 11:47:00 PM
Pretty sure he said the C.O., yeah he said C.O. That would be the Commanding Officer.
Iam also pretty sure he Lt., yeah he said Lt. Which would not be the ADS, because an ADS is an ADS and a Lt. is a Lt.
7/29/2011 01:29:00 AM
Yeah, except (s)he said THE CO of the IAD. There's more than one CO in Internal Affairs, but there is NO CO of the IAD.
Oh, and learn to spell before you start jumping up and down, acting all righteous.
does eating a peppermint patty bar help?
7/29/2011 12:33:00 AM
Actually, no, Arizona, it doesn't.
Um yeah can I get emergency time due, I'm hung over.
The real cover up is that he drove a company car to work.
Officer Tool.
No one is fucking with you. No one dropped a dime on you like that clueless ass respinded. Citywide p.o's are being sent down within weeks of taking a piss test. In my district six p.o's went down within a week of each other. I think Rahm is having everyone randomly tested. We are all clean right? So then none of us has to worry so let them send you. Thats one or two less calls you have to take.
Anonymous said...
It is so hilarious watching the morons on here scurry and pontificate as if they have any idea what the hell they are talking about.
You don't know about it, so it was obviously "swept under the rug".
How about admitting that a lot of what you think you know about this Department is rumor and flat out bullshit. A lot of it started right here by people who like to watch everyone jump through the hoops and retell it.
All of the people pointing fingers should be using this as a learning example: If you happen to stay up too late drinking, then get called for random at the start of your second watch tour, you will very likely encounter a life changing problem!
If things were "swept away" as easily as you think, he wouldn't be stripped right now.
7/28/2011 06:44:00 Pm
AMEN!!!
I wish some of you would just READ your contracts, the Rules and Regulations or the freakin' Daily Bulletin!
The lieutenant fucked up and now he's stripped and going to pay the price. He'll never go back to IAD that's for sure, and I'm also sure he's humbled by the entire proceeding. He'll take a suspension for sure but won't be fired.
To the nimrods who go around saying IAD sets up coppers...you sound like pookie and mookie who say coppers set them up and shoot them for no reason. Get real.
No one wins in this one, except maybe the lieutenant in the long run because he may be forced to get himself some help.
About time!!!
Now wait a second here! Sound like pookie ? You mean good hard working coppers have not had cases PUT on them by some IAD folks? If you say no you are one of 2 beings: never a worker or one of those IAD folks!
Go over to call back and actually sit down with some of those guys/gals that have been there for 2,3,4 years and hear what kind of beef they have. Are there good people at IAd, yes yes yes. Are there bobble-head yes I will screw that person for you boss types there,yes,yes,yes...Dont know the IAD LT but the guy who recently was stripped for residency has made his career and in fact brags about how getting coppers is his lot in life as he puts it. If you need more example of this please feel free to sit down and chat...
Hopefully things are changing slowly but surely and cases are being invetigated to get the entire picture and not invetsigated to sustain by failing to interview witnesses that help out the copper,etc...Get the picture ?
7/31/2011 10:08:00 AM
IAD reacts to complaints. Are/were their overzealous investigators? Sure, just like there are/were overzealous coppers, but by and large IAD reacts to complaints and it's either there or it isn't. Just like the overwhelming majority of police are doing their job, following rules and playing fair, the overwhelming majority of IAD is the same. Bad apples get theirs in the end....as it would seem in the cases you mentioned.
I wish there wasn't a need for IAD, just like I wish there wasn't a need for police in general, but there is.
Overzealous IAD guys stay in place and for that the only people to blame are their bosses who know that they are bad apples and were probably never the real police. If they have to eat them then they should give them cases that are petty and should not be able to hurt the hard working guys/gals.
For this I directly blame the bosses in IAD. When they finally get called on this, they cant say I didnt know. They will pay off settlements in a punitive nature because of their direct knowledge of what the problem is yet they didnt act to rectify this.
Anyone on the (SHORT LIST) ready to Bash Chief Rivera, must be a complete DOG and have their own issues...
No one is bashing Rivera. He has always been a working policeman. He must however undo some of things that have been done to many hard workings guys/gals. He knows who his nit wits are and should get them out of his unit.
He could start by getting rid of the only Weis hack left-Cmdr Klimas. Rahm wants to see how to save money-here is a way!! No need for a Commander in IAD. 100k plus for what???
If you drink so much that you will probably blow positively in the morning from a previous evenings drinking, bypass EAP and go right ahead to AA.
They'd be better off to ask with a show of hands, the people who do NOT have a problem with alcohol. There might be a couple hundred. Then just treat (medically) the rest accordingly.
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