Friday, July 29, 2011

SCC Exclusive

Is this real?


It sure looks real.

Now what if someone pointed it at you? Would you defend yourself?

We certainly would. And we wouldn't blame anyone else who did. Guess what?

That's exactly what happened. With that specific gun. You see, that's the gun used by this kid...


...to shoot out a bunch of windows at the Piccolo School and a van in the 011 District before he pointed it at an officer, who then shot him. The gun pictured was recovered and inventoried and the subject made a full confession.

So the next time the Slum Times says police are "trigger happy," remember that first photo. That dumbass kid is lucky to be breathing in the hospital instead of pushing up daisies at Burr Oak, though that will probably happen soon enough anyway.

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128 Comments:

Blogger Phil Schitz here said...

I would of shot. Looks real to me.

7/29/2011 01:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Patient pickup in HARVEY lockup gets reprimand from cop, "IF I EVER SEE YOU WITH A GUN FAKE OR NOT, I'll BLOW UR MOTHER FUCKIN HEAD OFF !"

Workin in the ghetto is so much fun isnt it?

7/29/2011 01:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where is the news. How about going out and getting a full story from the family now. Chicago's news looks more like England's news.

7/29/2011 01:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In the words of Apollo Creed... I would drop him like a bad habit!

7/29/2011 01:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: happy aniversary to the best group of people i ever had the pleasure to get to know (well, most of them anyway).

7/29/2011 01:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

don't you just hate monday morning quarterbacks. only one that knows how it is and how it went down is the person(s) that was there.

The media and everyone else need to shut the fuck up. know-it-alls

Stay safe people.

7/29/2011 01:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Eventual no loss to society

7/29/2011 01:22:00 AM  
Anonymous JAFO said...

This should be a HUGE wake-up call to anyone who reads the Times or the Tribune that their slant is sickening.

If this story is so bad, what about all the other news they report? How far off of the truth are they on those issues?

For a big city, we certainly have very poor people in the media.

7/29/2011 01:27:00 AM  
Blogger robert goulet said...

it's almost poetic the way you put it. damn right.

7/29/2011 01:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That asshole kid may be lucky to be breathing, but it's too bad for the rest of the honest, hard-working residents of ShitCago that he's not dead. Too bad because he'll grow up to be what is now, only bigger- a fucking gang-banging, drug-dealing shit head just like the baby daddy.

7/29/2011 01:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ask all the people who were victims of shooting if they had a gun would they wait to see if its real. Or for the other guy to shoot first.

In the world of life there is no do over, and you only get one life. Life is very precious. Even if the other guy doesn't think so!

7/29/2011 02:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I like how this little piece of shit colored the bright parts in with sharpie to make it look "mo gangsta" no doubt... well, it worked! Unfortunately, when he gets well he can go around showing his wounds as a basis for cred or to show people what "the man" did to him for "no reason". Fucking pathetic.

7/29/2011 03:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That isn't what most people think of when they think of BB guns.

They think of the Red Ryder like on "A Christmas Story."

NOT.

7/29/2011 06:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This was a really good article about Yummy Sandifer--written this year.


Thihttp://thewashingtonsyndicate.wordpress.com/2011/01/21/true-crime-the-forgotten-story-of-robert-%E2%80%9Cyummy%E2%80%9D-sandifer/

7/29/2011 06:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a lawless savage.

I hope he needs a colostomy bag or ends up with some other disability so hes a slower moving target for his next shoot out. We all know there will be a long list of crimes committed by this jackass.


(Not a Cop)

7/29/2011 07:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Since when did kids in that neighborhood start wearing Hollister clothing ? Wish I was on public aid so my kids could wear it too.

7/29/2011 07:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

oh my baby, he be wanting to be a lawyer,or doctor, he be a honor student and the pollice shot em

7/29/2011 08:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That picture makes me wanna punch that kid in the fucking face.

7/29/2011 08:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

While this POS is at Stroger, how about tatooing "Stupid" across his forehead in bright orange?

7/29/2011 08:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can tell its fake,but im a gun whack.The average cop or person its real.Its VERY realistic.I couldnt fault an officer or anyone lese for that matter for using deadly force.

7/29/2011 08:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The day following this police shooting, NBC had a segment on their morning show regarding a child whose brother accidentally shot him in the head with a BB gun. The child is now paralyzed and his parents are advocating that BB guns be classified as weapons. It shouldn't matter if it looks real or not.

7/29/2011 08:40:00 AM  
Anonymous bobbo said...

Wow, he was shooting out the windows of the school where's he's an A/B student at. Maybe they should have given him all A's? That's why he's mad at the school.

7/29/2011 08:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

off-topic- I'm not a cop looking for job using craig's happened upon this fresh posting from today for $54,000 full-time security job- hope it's not a scam and that perhaps it may be of help or interest to an SCC reader in need of work- maybe recent retirees or future (you need to be fit):
http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/sec/2518936988.html

7/29/2011 08:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just like they cropped the pic of pookie to block out his representing, we won't see this pic on the news either.

I stopped reading the newspapers, and only watch the news for the weather. You want the real story? Get it here on SCC. Damn Straight!

A big fat F U to the lying media vultures. They all suck!!

7/29/2011 08:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In the original story they said the the honor student was 13 and about to enter the 7th grade. I don't have any children that age but it seems to me that if you are 13 you should be entering 8th grade?????? I coud be wrong but maybe that's how the public schools operate.

7/29/2011 09:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the following is portion of a comment from the 'Media Cover Up Continues' thread:

"None of this affects me directly, but I'm troubled by it. People who aren't from Chicago are paying attention too."

Just thought it was worth sharing. You should have a 'thumbs up' or a 'like' button for comments :)

7/29/2011 09:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck the Sun Times, but let them keep reporting the way they are, they are keeping the black folk down by letting them get away with the crap they do. They used to put on the white devil but in reality it is the politicians and the media.

7/29/2011 09:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That isn't what most people think of when they think of BB guns.

They think of the Red Ryder like on "A Christmas Story."

NOT.

Hell I'll still shoot if that was pointed at me. It looks like a cut down 22.

7/29/2011 09:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Momma and the family, along with CeaseFire, had a vigil and march to protest the police on Thursday. Go figure.

7/29/2011 09:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

my perception tells me it's a gun

my perception tells me it's not safe to have it pointed at me by a suspect.

my perception of safety has been threatened

Drop the term "perception of safety" from politics and especially police work

are you in fear = shoot first

7/29/2011 09:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

may he be forever scarred with the memory of:

the police will shoot me

in his future gang banging ventures

because they shall :)

7/29/2011 09:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC, that is why I have no problem locking someone up for the MCC replica charge when I find a bb gun in someone's waistband or vehicle.

7/29/2011 10:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What would really be an interesting followup would be 1. Who pays Jr's medical bills.
2. Who pays to replace the windows and damage done by the BB gun.
3. Who pays for the defense atty and the prosecution. 4. Who gets selected for Jury duty. 5. aw fuckit.

7/29/2011 10:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Since he shot out windows at Piccolo School and shot out windows in a van, it is not a question of whether this is a real gun.

By virtue of the fact that projectiles loaded in this implement were able to be launched with velocity capable of breaking windows, in both the school and van, THIS IS A REAL GUN.

It is not a toy. It is not a BB gun, it is a REAL GUN.

Thank you, Officers, for a job well done.

Thank you, SCC, for bring the actual facts to the public.

7/29/2011 10:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

pookie pulls this out when im working,pookies in a bodybag,nuf said

7/29/2011 10:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

my honest unbiased opinion from a cop. it looks like a water gun.

7/29/2011 10:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kid's lucky he's not dead.

7/29/2011 10:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sure looks like a 9mm Beretta 92F (M9) to me. Yeah, I'd have shot him.

7/29/2011 10:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kids do stupid things, I understand that. But, cops have to defend themselves, no matter what. the liberal media is always looking for an angle to make a sensational storyline. The sad thing about this is the fact the parents had the photo of their child throwing up gang signs and, apparently thinking this was ok, gave it to the media. What does this say about the unbringing this kid is getting. i am glad the officers are ok. I am equally glad that this kid will live so he will have another chance to grow up a decent human being.

7/29/2011 10:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You and everyone you know should cancel subscriptions or just stop buying the tribune and sun-times. The best way to get back at these papers are to stop giving them money! Tell everyone you know to stop by newspapers in Chicago and screw the papers who criminalize cops!

7/29/2011 10:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well said and 100% dead on. But is it really a good idea to post an E.T.'s photo so soon after the incident?

7/29/2011 10:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a lawless savage.

I hope he needs a colostomy bag or ends up with some other disability so hes a slower moving target for his next shoot out. We all know there will be a long list of crimes committed by this jackass.


Then he will be in SSDI and a burden to us all.

7/29/2011 10:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

About 15 years ago a 14 year old pointed one of those 1911 look-a-likes that shoots darts, BBs, and pellets at me. He then ran into a building. I kicked the door open and he already had his hands in the air and the gun was on the ground. If not for that I would have shot him. The point is that that gun looked real enough to me, so much so that the barrel looked like it was a real 45 or 44.

7/29/2011 11:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ot-http://data.cityofchicago.org/dataset/Budget-Positions-and-Salaries-in-2011-Appropriatio/6xus-9vdn

So this makes it look like the police are the biggest budget problem. Yet we are undermanned.

7/29/2011 11:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I still cant believe the papers cropped the photo so as to remove the hands holding the gang signs up. The removal was far from innocuous or immaterial. It fully rebutted the statements made by the family as top the character of the 13 year old but the papers still cropped the photo. Editors should be fired over this. It is more than negligent journalism, it is journalism which seeks to materially twist the facts in such a way as to tarnish the conduct of the police and literally gloss over the background of the 13 year old.

7/29/2011 11:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you--again!---for telling the TRUTH! I almost threw up when the family said that he was at a family party. We have to stop being "politically correct" or the danger will continue to grow. And the Chicago papers would do the "community" a favor to TELL THE TRUTH. TELL these families that they won't get away with making excuses and telling lies for their "little" gangbangers.

7/29/2011 11:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In the entire two page spread of Frank Main's piece, "Cop Shootings On Rise in 2011" in the Sun-Times the other day, nowhere was it mentioned a very likely driver of the high number of Police related shootings is the fact that Gov. Quinn and the IL Courts parole habitual criminals who are a danger to the public. Additionally, the Cook County States Attorneys Office chronically under charges the usual suspects causing more trouble makers to roam the neighborhoods of Chicago.

There is something really, really wrong with a system that has Ofc.  Bill Cozzi in a jail in the Bayou for slapping an unruly man in a wheel chair while paroling Daniel Jones who shoots CPD Officers & discharged Marines, Ruben Del Valle and Jeffrey Friedlieb, while drug dealing out on parole.

It is probably safe to say the parolee has an extensive rap-sheet.

I think we deserved to know his background, having been paroled.

Calling the shooting to a victim's head an Aggravated Battery (as was the case in a Chicago shooting) is an example of under charging and the mis-application of crime statistics classification, all to cover up the real crime, prosecution and sentencing problems in this city.

I found this quote attributed to the Director of Cease Fire especially clueless as to the root cause of the problem, "The police get training in crime hot spots, but young people don't have any training on how to deal with the police."

What's the Director calling for? Another taxpayer funded program piled on top of a heap of the innefectual programs that came before?

How about we stop with the nanny state brainwashing and hold accountable parents who don't raise their children with the proper respect for society and the police and hold habitual lawbreakers accountable with a broken window philosophy of enforcement.

It's pretty simple, if you're involved in or in the proximity of something that puts you in the sphere of influence of a policeman or policewoman doing there job, you show them respect.

You don't backtalk.

You don't ignore instructions. 

Even if you catch a cop in a aggressive demeanor for his or her own safety (and yours) or they are brash due to there having a bad day or by there being an Old-Bull no nonsense cop, you differ to them.

It's pretty simple and not that hard to do.

And, you should expect, you mess with the Bull, you're going to get the Horn!

If you're a guilty shitbird and don't want to get shot, read down from paragraph 10, again & again. Don't make sudden moves and if you pull out a gun, expect to get shot.

If you feel you've been really, really mis-treated you can file a complaint or tell your story to Frank Marin of the Sun-Times whom I am sure will be happy to write about it in generalities.

Buck Naked
(not a cop)

7/29/2011 11:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Something to add; as police officers we need to get the word out to correct the misuse of a "BB gun"

It's a "REPLICA HANDGUN, having identical dimensions in height, length, and width to a full sized handgun; having identical color to a blue-steel (black) handgun; having a fully functional trigger; having a bored/hollow barrel; having intricate marking along the handle, slide, sight posts and hammer."

My point? When I shoot the next shithead, I want my shooting report to include all the above-mentioned details

Write good paper, that will protect you in court

7/29/2011 11:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is it true that the 3 year wonder (C.A.) in the deputy chiefs office at area three might actually have to go on the street again? That charmed career might be coming to an end!!!!!!!!!!

7/29/2011 11:55:00 AM  
Anonymous bobbo said...

Is that his skool gym uniform he's wearing?

7/29/2011 12:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This kid is already gone, lost to society, forever unemployable and destined for prison or the graveyard. He saw the video, he got the style. Hell, people were laughing and putting hats on him sideways, taking snapshots, when he was 18 months old. Teaching him to signify. Little party joke. "Look! He doin' it! He doin' it!"

"Whoo!"

Thug life is imbibed along with baby mama's lumpy-mixed Similac in these houses. End of story.

There is not a moment's doubt in my mind that he'd have been banging off a real gun at everyone and everything he could see if he'd been able to get hold of one.

7/29/2011 12:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Imagine just how much money this lil thug will cost the working people of Chicago before he's finally shot and killed

7/29/2011 12:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Scum-times, its amazing how many times they report B.S., yet you still see hundreds of coppers buy their paper at court. Stop buying their paper.

7/29/2011 12:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Go ahead folks,keep buying the Times and Tribune like good democRATS.

7/29/2011 12:54:00 PM  
Anonymous AmericanNinjoePartDeux said...

Man, you guys have it all wrong. I mean, we are supposed to know its fake, and since we know its fake we are supposed to do what we were trained to do. Either A) not shoot, or B) shoot a limb without hitting a vital point. Part of our fundamental training is graze shooting. Its where we shoot that the minimal injury is a graze. It's common knowledge out on the street that we have been trained for that. BARF I tell you. These people are insane. I think you are missing something SCC, and a lot of people don't realize is #1 Not only do we carry guns. #2 Illinois is a liberal state that hates guns. #3 When a gun is used to preserve our life, no media outlet wants it to be reflected that way. No other organization has the unique opportunity in the Continental U.S. to use guns like big city police departments. This liberal state does not want people to know what our constitutional right to bear arms would look like. A cop saving his life will never be reported in that way because guns can never be painted in a positive light. If the police are out of control, then by natural association guns will look out of control. Paint the police bad and the gullible citizen will think that the liberal government is doing him a service not allowing him to carry a weapon. After all, you don't want to be like those trigger happy police do you? Its not about an officer saving his life with a gun we know he had every right to use, or using it against a threat that presented itself. Its about scaring the citizens into thinking Guns are bad. Keep out the relevant information, keep out everything possible and lets hit that point home: No one deserves guns. Of course, no one but the elite who walk around with body guards armed to the teeth, but everyone else you can't handle a gun. You might end up like the trigger happy police.

7/29/2011 01:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm just really curious... when are the media fucks who were stringing those officers out to dry before having all/any information about this shooting, going to post all types of followup stories showing these updates?

7/29/2011 01:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe SCC should branch out into the media...Call itself "What really happened." Have some retired coppers go out and report the news for real. Ask the questions that need to be asked like, "what was your child doing out past curfew?" and "Explain the hand sign your son is making in this picture along with the object he is holding?" Just a thought...

7/29/2011 01:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's the system man, the system! It's the only reason these pooheads have no chance!

-not a cop

7/29/2011 01:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cops, Communities Prepare for Woodstars Festival

Politicians, police blast hasty planning of hip-hop fest and carnival.


By Deborah Kadin and Aly Brumback

8:40am

"In preparations for a hastily planned hip-hop festival, authorities will descend upon Maywood in droves, arriving by police cruiser, ATV and horseback.

"An estimated 20,000 people are expected pass through the four-day Woodstars Summer Carnival and Music Festival, which began Thursday and will run through Sunday at Proviso East High School, located at First Avenue between Washington and Madison streets.

"Law enforcement officials across the Chicagoland area say they’ve been blindsided by short preparation time for the festival...

In River Forest, police say they’re mostly concerned about parking restrictions and keeping local roads clear in case of emergencies — plans they say are better laid well in advance of a major event. Deputy Chief Craig Rutz said the department first learned about the festival last Wednesday, prompting whirlwind preparations this week.

“…It could take all of three minutes to make the streets impassable,” Rutz said. “These are issues that should have been addressed months ago.”

"A spokesman for the Cook County Sheriff's Office complained the department only received a site plan and began discussing logistics with promoters on Monday. What's more, the department only found it was working the event on Thursday..."

http://oakpark.patch.com/articles/cops-communities-prepare-for-woodstars-festival

7/29/2011 01:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Forest Park robocall alerts residents to Woodstars festival traffic

Site plans finally public, heavy pedestrian and vehicular traffic expected


By NICK MORONI
Editor

"The carnival portion of the Woodstars summer festival gets underway Thursday at Proviso East High School. In anticipation of large crowds likely to come for the musical acts over the weekend, Forest Park placed an automated call Wednesday to inform residents of the event.

"The "important message" from the village advised residents that the festival, which could draw up to 20,000 people each day, is running July 28-31. It also informed Forest Parkers to stay off Madison Street west of the village, and added that the village of River Forest is closing Washington Boulevard at Thatcher and Lathrop avenues.

"We strongly encourage you to stay off of Madison if travelling west into Maywood," the message says. "Please use alternate routes such as Roosevelt Road or Lake Street."

"Since the event finally landed at Proviso East late last week, Woodstars' organizers were criticized by the Cook County Sheriff's police for shoddy planning..."

http://forestparkreview.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=38&ArticleID=5892

7/29/2011 01:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The police always have real guns.

This makes no impression at all on some people. "They hard-headed, know whum sayin'."

Uh...

7/29/2011 01:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope the city doesnt give this mutt and his family a ghetto lottery offering. I think he got off easy. he is still alive!

7/29/2011 01:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sheilds did a good Job on CNN today. Kudos brother

7/29/2011 02:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I will go home to my family at the end of my tour. I don't care WHO is holding a gun or dangerous weapon. If my life, or that of another is at stake, I will use my weapon until the threat is over!

7/29/2011 02:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

dumps today.... bye-bye morons

7/29/2011 02:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Double Tap.....

BBMF...

7/29/2011 02:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some of this has been brought on by the mythology that suggests that cops have some special training that prevents them from making mistakes that they might otherwise make if they were mere mortals.

The courts often find this a convenient fiction. Why would a newspaper not find it equally convenient?

7/29/2011 03:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We had recovered and inventoried, a look a like, Ruger .357 Revolver, that looked like what the old timers would carry.

It was found after a night disturbance on the 900 block of West Belmont a few weekends back. After the HE/SHE's were going crazy at 0300 hours.

I tell you what, any Police Officer would have been justified in any shooting with any Offender holding that toy gun!

So screw you Slum Times! You will NEVER get a penny from me!

7/29/2011 03:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

nice job SCC

7/29/2011 03:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I hope he needs a colostomy bag..."

--7/29/2011 07:14:00 AM

I think you just started a new fashion trend, is all.

Nothing reaches some people.

Nothing.

Theirs is a culture of insanity and death.

7/29/2011 03:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

frank main is a piece of shit , his man crush jody is no better. word is that jody stayed here to be close to frank main.

7/29/2011 03:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are BB Guns, Airsoft guns, "repliguns" etc that are completely indistinguishable from the real thing, without holding it in your hands and giving it an up-close inspection.

So, yes. If a cop is pursuing someone and they pull that thing out, it's completely fucking ridiculous to expect them to know whether it's real or not. Anyone who thinks that has zero experience with handling these types of "fake guns".

To look at them, they are dead on accurate.

7/29/2011 04:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nice ceremony at 1st District dedicating a garage to Mike Flisk.

The supe was there, but I couldn't hear what he was saying.

Anybody there hear what he had to say?

I saw him hug Mike's sister afterwards, which seemed like a nice gesture.

7/29/2011 04:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OMG, just on Ch. 5 news at 4:30. West side ministers picket 35th St., say police are only trigger-happy in the black neighborhoods.
Saying police are so scared to do their jobs that they have to shoot people.

They are sending a letter to the dept. of Justice demanding an investigation into police shootings in Chicago.

Now I've seen everything.

Um, maybe we shoot black people because those are the people with the guns? Who point them at us?

7/29/2011 04:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just posted about the Ch. 5 report.

Seriously, it was so disturbing, I can't even believe it.

We're so scared to do our jobs that we have to shoot people.

Unk revrun said every time there is a call of shots fired someone ends up getting shot by the police!

7/29/2011 04:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Retired Old Breed said...

In my long career I came close to dropping the hammer on several fools who thought it cute to point toy guns at the police, but good cover and coolness under stress saved the dummies from going tits up.The problem today is a lack of respect for the law in the extreme not just in the inner city but America as a whole.The news media has to sell its product and always finds some pen head in the hood to distort the facts. These so called parents are using their kids as meal tickets instead of taking their responsibility its all about the Benjamin's.

7/29/2011 04:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Curious if anyone else heard the "reverend" on channel 5 news,Fri. @ 4:30 stating police are trigger happy and questioning why most shootings happen in the black communities, really? Well if anyone needs to answer that then we are all idiots.
The better statement was when he attacked the police stating we were "scared". Here's a wake up call rev, most of the residents, grown men, women and children are scared living with this crime created in your areas do to the FACT of lack of family values.
Time to own up to it and work with the police and not against them like the gang bangers do.

7/29/2011 05:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'd smoke him like a pack of KOOLS!

7/29/2011 05:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What are the Chicago city parks like people from out of town ask. Well on your typical weekend it's just like this

7/29/2011 05:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off topic
Just was looking at the trib site where it shows how aldermen spend their $73,000 expense account in 2009, strange how a bunch of the more senior aldermen spent 30 dollars for dept of revenue fees. what costed 30 bucks back in 2009? Answer- city stickers for seniors. Stange POs get jammed up for not having city stickers but alderman get theirs payed for by the citizens.

7/29/2011 05:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well now unfortunately he will say that the police.....made him get a disability and we will wind up supporting him anyway with additional tax dollars....


Prince Valium

7/29/2011 06:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about all the openings. It's about dam time

7/29/2011 06:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any moron who would point that at a cop deserves a lead injection. Too bad no vital hits. I don't think we would have lost a cure for cancer.

7/29/2011 06:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now we have a group of reverends stating that cops need more training to stop excessive shootings by police. The revs furthur stated that cops must be "scared" because they resort to shooting too often when they hear gun shots. These are the same folks who need the protection of the police more than anyone else in the city Go figure.

7/29/2011 06:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shoot to kill.

7/29/2011 07:01:00 PM  
Blogger detnick36 said...

I should begin this posting, SCC, by identifying myself as a recently retired Detective of 30 years with the Chicago Police Department, and I am also African American.
I have always been proud of this organization and supportive of it even during it's lowest times. I have seen both the very good and bad of the Department, have weathered the many storms it has faced since I came on in 1981, have enjoyed it's brother/sisterhood and fraternity, have been there to mourn our loses and support our fallen members families and friends.

I say all this because I am particularly incensed at comments made by a group of "reverands", who's remarks were televised on WBBM Channel 5, 29 Jul 11 during the 6:00 pm broadcast. Some "spokesman" for the group suggested that the Chicago Police Department were neither properly trained, were not executing their assignments and were afraid/scared to do their jobs in the Black community. This clown had the audacity to say that as a result of his "observations" of police behavior in the African American community that he and his group of "holy men" would be petitioning the United States Justice Department to intervene in some fashion because they are dissatisfied with how the Chicago Police are shooting indiscriminately in the Black community.

Having been there, as a police officer who has pushed a beat car, worked Tact, several specialized units, assigned as a Detective, and as a current resident of the community, I would beg to differ with this fool and his cohorts. If he had the same opportunities I've had and seen what really goes on in some of these communities from my/our perspective, he would be loath to have spoken those words.

My disgust and revulsion at his remarks are difficult to describe. I cannot find the words to explain how much I dispise he and his kind. They are no more than leeches that feed off City programs so long as they turn out Machine votes from a constituency who care neither about themselves or their neighbors. He need only do a "ride along" for one tour of duty, have his ass shot at once, or suffer a beatdown or "punkin' head" at the hands of a member of his flock and I'm certain he would have a chance of perspective. If he actually lives in one of these communities, he is either blind or a complete liar to suggest that his "flock" are innocent and should not be treated the way they are. Just how would he expect the police to respond to being shot at or confronted with an armed offender - irrespective of race?

My point is, SCC, keep putting out the correct information and rally the troops. Once again we are on our own with our backs to the wall. While we fight daily to do our jobs, protect our brothers and sisters in arms and still come home at the end of our tour the same as we left, we need not feel ashamed for protecting ourselves or one another. WE are the only ones we have. There is no one else. We owe no one an apology and we should afford no quarter to anyone who would attempt to prevent us from doing our job or threaten our lives or those of our brothers and sisters.

This hateful rhetoric from opportunistic race pimps and politically connected community "leaders" will not abate until they themselves become victims of the very "victims" they claim to represent.

This whole thing is not about race. It about adhering to and following the law, respecting lawful authority and our established institutions, and it about moral behavior. Nothing more, nothing less.

7/29/2011 07:12:00 PM  
Blogger Paul said...

Impossible! Chicago has good gun control and Rahm is a great Mayor.

Must be a toy, right?

7/29/2011 07:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yellow Journalism is the standard for all Chicago media today

If it sells print it

if it doesn't look good crop it

make the facts fit the story line
by lie or by fiction

look it up if you don't believe me

google- define: yellow journalism

7/29/2011 07:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about that shoot out in 006 by the 003 rd district bike guys. Bad guy shoots a woman then shoots at cops. But it's the cops that are trigger happy.

7/29/2011 08:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

or is it memorex

7/29/2011 08:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would DARE an actual reporter to show the REAL story, but it won't happen. The news media are PUSSIES, the only real paper in this town is the Reader. The Trib/Times are race baiting scum and hopefully the shit they stir up will come to a neighborhood where THEY live.

7/29/2011 09:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From an armed troll: Looks like baretta 92sf bought my son for his 21st birthday before he joined west suburban PD. The only difference is I would do my typical three shot burst at bread basket. Under 20 ft I never miss. Not bragging, fact of life. Its what I practice-intense quick sighting three shot burst.

7/29/2011 09:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You fail to realize that he was just practicing for a real shoot out which in that part of town was moments away. Straight A and B student my fat ass!!

7/29/2011 09:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Reverends at HQ where they say were scared or not trained properly. No mention of the black community spinning out if control shooting on a regular basis.

Hey Reverends its time you told the truth, blaming the sesspool of much on police is a complete cop out. Shame on you ....

7/29/2011 09:36:00 PM  
Blogger Michael said...

thank god little shorty do wrong didn't get hisself kilt yet--- we can squeeze a couple of dozen more cb numbers out of the little tyke before he gets sent up to boot hill....

7/29/2011 09:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who took the photo of this kid in what appears to be his living room? His proud 'parents'? If they supplied it to the media, that means they knew aout it--what kind of parent takes childhood photos of their kid like this?

Oh, I forgot, the f*ckng media doesn't ask those kinds of questions.

7/29/2011 10:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

(OT) After watching the back ground think Chicago is a target? Be careful boys and girls it may be getting like a tidal wave soon!

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/iteam&id=8278969

7/29/2011 10:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That pos should of been killed,you point a weapon at police you deserve to immediately die! The fucking libs here are getting worse. Looked at today's scumtimes the comments by former convicted gang banging stick up man walter the gun burnett about shortshanks were amazing to say the least! This punk stated that they named the library for the daley because if they named it for a minority they would not more free stuff! Lots more WTF!

7/29/2011 10:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: The cities political apparatus in disarray.

On one hand we have the police superintendent trying to implement a "Broken Windows" crime fighting policy where the police are suppose to "sweat the little stuff" because they believe the little stuff matters.

On the other hand we have Cook County Board President calling for the police to ignore the laws on marijuana while telling us that these cases are essentially driving the city further into debt and possible into bankruptcy.

We can't afford it!

Toni Preckwinkle To Chicago Cops: Stop Making Low-Level Drug Arrests

So what happens in response to Preckwinkle's plea one day later?

Operation MIke

--clip--

More than 50 people were served arrest warrants on charges ranging from drug possession to armed robbery to failure to register as a sex offender during a joint operation this morning by Chicago, south suburban and state police.

--end clip--

And there's more to come as the warrants are still being served I guess. We clog the courts and waste much needed manpower and taxpayers money on pot smokers.

I doubt very much that the "drug possession" that they are busting people for here is only for hard core narcotics...but I could be wrong...but I doubt it.

The real issue though is what kind of message this sends to the people and the gang bangers?

There's no unified stance. It's everymen for themselves get what you can get while you can get it.

Nevertheless there's more.

If that wasn't bad enough we have the illustrious Governor of Illinois signing into law a bill that rewards Illegal immigrants with scholarships!

How you like that for sending the message that illegal activity will not be tolerated in this sanctuary city as we are "sweating the little stuff" now eh?

Quinn to sign Illinois Dream Act for scholarship money


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[...]

A spokesman says Illinois Gov. Pat Quinn will sign a bill to allow the children of immigrants, both legal and illegal, to get private college scholarships and enroll in state college savings programs.

Quinn spokesman Grant Klinzman says the governor will sign the bill Monday.

Called the Illinois Dream Act, the measure creates a panel to raise private money for college scholarships. Supporters say this will help illegal immigrants who graduate from Illinois high schools go on to college because they may otherwise not be able to afford it.

--end clip--

We must help the Illegals! Got that?

Forget about the people trying hard to play by all the rules. We must help the illegals!

There you have it.

Let the shoot outs and the illegal activity continue.

7/29/2011 10:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It was 11pm and in the heat of the moment. I don't care if it was 5pm, that looks real. I am glad I waited for some facts before I got all nutty. All I asked was where was this weapon and why was the kid out at 11pm. "Good" shooting

7/29/2011 11:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A picture is worth a thousand words. This one is worth much more. Must be inflation. Just shows how far this nation has come to hide the very truth. Even with pictures the media will distort to fit their agenda.

7/29/2011 11:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Betcha Proud Momma took that picture of her darling little ghetto gangbanging honor student. Proud moment huh? Give me a break.

7/29/2011 11:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: The People Chicago Needs to Attract and Retain.

You know in the corporate world we ofter hear executives touting about the people that they have to be able to attract and retain.

Ofter times it's in reference to some newly hired executive with a six figure compensation package including golden parachute clauses and all kinds of fringe benefits.

The so-called best and the brightest bullshit.

Well I was reading this story about a little event taken place in Miami and given this sanctuary cities track record and lamebrain leadership with regard to rewarding illegal activities I'm wondering if these two are not the kind of people that Chicago's political leaders would be interested in attracting and retaining..

Check it out..

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Two Men Arrested in Miami After One Punches Pilot on SFO-Bound Flight

[...]

Jonathan and Luis Baez, both of Las Piedras, Puerto Rico, were arrested at Miami International Airport. They had been aboard American Airlines Flight 1755 bound for San Francisco on Wednesday night, according to an arrest affidavit

While the plane taxied away from the gate, a flight attendant noticed 27-year-old Jonathan Baez was sleeping and had not buckled his seat belt, police said. She tried to wake him, but she told police that Baez was unresponsive and appeared to be intoxicated or on drugs.

The pilot turned the plane around and returned to gate D51.

"As we always do with these things, we'd much rather deal with it on the ground than in the air," American Airlines spokesman Tim Smith said Thursday.

The pilot and flight attendant then woke up Baez and told him to get off the plane, police said.

"He was apparently barely compliant at that point," Smith said. "He was exhibiting symptoms of intoxication. He was not walking well when he went up the aisle."

Luis Baez, 29, decided to join his brother as he was being escorted off the plane. As the brothers walked toward the aircraft's exit door, they became belligerent, and Luis Baez told the pilot, "When you fly to San Juan I will have you killed," according to the arrest report.

The brothers walked off the plane, but then Jonathan Baez returned and punched the pilot in the face and hit the flight attendant in the shoulder when she tried to intervene, police said.

Both brothers attacked the pilot again in the jet bridge and chased him in the terminal, according to the arrest report.

Other flight crew members and passengers held down the brothers until police arrived.

"There was a scuffle that took place, so about three or four of us went out there and tackled the guys. There were two of them and I guess the pilot ended up with some contusions on his face. So we just did what we needed to do to help out," Ken Venting .....

more >> http://www.chicagotribune.com/travel/sns-ap-us-pilot-punched,0,3973736.story

====
What do you think?

Honor roll students no doubt worthy of a Governor Quinn Illinois scholarship. The kind of people the sanctuary city must be allowed to attract and retain. Get on it boys!

7/29/2011 11:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone that is worth their weight would have shot. Don't ever second guess.

7/29/2011 11:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gangbanger wearing Hollister? Not that's hood!

7/30/2011 12:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You and everyone you know should cancel subscriptions or just stop buying the tribune and sun-times. The best way to get back at these papers are to stop giving them money! Tell everyone you know to stop by newspapers in Chicago and screw the papers who criminalize cops!
************************************
The media doesn't give a fuck about your chump change. The way to hurt them financially it to boycott their advertisers and let them know the reason you are not buying their products.

7/30/2011 01:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I would DARE an actual reporter to show the REAL story, but it won't happen. The news media are PUSSIES, the only real paper in this town is the Reader. The Trib/Times are race baiting scum and hopefully the shit they stir up will come to a neighborhood where THEY live.

7/29/2011 09:15:00 PM

And the Reader isn't? Are you fucking high? The reporters and editorial staff (apparently as well as its readers) must have been educated in the Soviet Union.

7/30/2011 02:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

boy that does look real
and in the dark
i wouldn't question if it was a bb gun toy or real
i wa told once in a robbery even if the gun is fake it's still armed robbery
becuse you belive at the time it is real
i hope nobody ever has to face that decsion of pulling the trigger becuse they don't kknow if it's real or not

7/30/2011 02:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
my honest unbiased opinion from a cop. it looks like a water gun.

7/29/2011 10:09:00 AM

Yeah, ok. Now if it's 3 am and low light and some fool points it at you 20 feet away, are you gonna wait till you get wet, or put the idiot down?

7/30/2011 04:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where is the follow-up story about the kid confessing to all kinds of shit?

--chirp--

--chirp--

--chirp--

7/30/2011 07:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I saw the daddy on tv saying his son's hand is mangled--isn't that what they want us to do? Shoot the gun out of their hands and not kill them?

So what's he bitching about? It's not like the kid used his hands to practice arithmetic! Or to communicate with the deaf!

He won't be flashing gang signs any more, it sounds like--and if there is a God, he won't be able to hold a gun either!

Or wipe his ass!

7/30/2011 08:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What do you think?

Honor roll students no doubt worthy of a Governor Quinn Illinois scholarship. The kind of people the sanctuary city must be allowed to attract and retain. Get on it boys!

7/29/2011 11:24:00 PM

--

Puerto Rico is a US Territory, dumbass. They've been living off the dole for way longer than the illegals.

7/30/2011 08:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
my honest unbiased opinion from a cop. it looks like a water gun.

7/29/2011 10:09:00 AM



that's because you're piss drunk.

7/30/2011 08:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

"I hope he needs a colostomy bag..."

--7/29/2011 07:14:00 AM

I think you just started a new fashion trend, is all.

Nothing reaches some people.

Nothing.

Theirs is a culture of insanity and death.

7/29/2011 03:32:00 PM


Hollister Colostomy Bags?

I recall working CTA special on Chicago Ave one hot July 3rd watch shift some years ago. It looked like a convention of motorized wheelchair salesmen with all the young thugs and their paralyzing GSW's motoring up and down Chicago Ave from about 3600 - 3800 W. in their nice shiny 'guvment paid for battery powered wheelchairs.

It was one of those west side moments most people never get a chance to appreciate or comprehend. Like a big old ghetto ride tooling along on one tire with air, one flat tire and two bare steel rims with sparks flying, driver grinning like it's Christmas.

7/30/2011 08:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My partner and I took a bb gun off of a kid 2 weeks ago. It had the weight very similar to a real gun, had a fake magazine, chrome and black looking finish, no orange "safety" tip and only had the name of the toy company printed very small (in black letters on the black finish background) on the handle. If necessary, I would have shot someone holding it. Tried to explain that to mama, but it was like banging your head against a wall. Lesson leanred by all. Great job Officers.

7/30/2011 08:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Mary Mitchell....

Since you decided to weigh in today I would like to ask you to explain a few things

You write regarding SCC...
"The site also posted a photograph of Jimmell".

Why did you purposly omit the photo shows Jimmell throwing up gang signs?

Then you write..
"it would appear to violate the juvenile’s rights"

Can you please fill us all in on what rights have been violated?

If a guardian cannot be found or refuses to come in during questioning then a youth officer
and sits in on the interview. Standard procedure and within state law.

And finally "Without it, many of the people in neighborhoods most affected by police shootings will see this incident as another stone tossed onto a growing mountain of distrust."

Well let me ask YOU this..You have stated many times in prior columns and appearances on Chicago Tonight that you come from a the projects "D.B.'s" if I remember correctly, and that you have kinfolk involved in the drug trade. Certainly you must have seen how children from these environments are raised to believe the Police are the boogeyman who do nothing but take mamma and daddy to jail.

It is not my responsibility to erase generations of brainwashing of blacks by their own community and I will never attempt to do so.

That is a problem in the black community and up to them to solve

7/30/2011 08:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

my honest unbiased opinion from a cop. it looks like a water gun.

7/29/2011 10:09:00 AM

Why do I think that will be on your tombstone?

7/30/2011 09:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
my honest unbiased opinion from a cop. it looks like a water gun.

My friend then you should find a new job before you go and get yourself killed.

7/30/2011 09:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Illinois Dream Act, not only do they get reduced college costs but they and their illegal family all get free voter registration, same as in CA.....

7/30/2011 11:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey 1009 am mr unbiased looks like a water gun to me house mouse. I'm sure that you never were in a foot chase on a poorly lite street. But I know if dude pulls that on me I'm firing. So enjoy your life of telling all the other house mouses about your crazy stories from the lathrop homes or some crap and leave the rest of us alone

7/30/2011 12:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hello from Arizona. It is expected that your liberal paper would print such a slanted version of the facts. Forget about the evidence of the truth of what really happened and the officer who was facing this weapon at night who had to make a split second decision if this is a real gun or not. Bottom line is we all know he made the right call and his training kicked in to automatic mode.

In Phoenix or any other city the perp could expect the same response. The parents of this gangbanger are either extremely naive about their childs activities or they are absentee parents.

Looking at the weapon recovered I have no doubt I would have done the same thing. He would get a "drop the weapon" and then I would assist him in doing so. Good shooting in my opinion.

7/30/2011 12:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If people are interested I will pursue this. I will set up a holdings company with little to no assets and a low cash flow (for possible law suit reasons). I will have that holdings company start and own a real and factual Chicago newspaper. I can handle the business end and possibly some stories. But I would need help from others for stories and other paper content. We could set it up as a 1 day a week paper at first and see where it goes. If it goes nowhere we only loose our time and some printing costs associated with the copies we ran. I would be willing to gamble a few thousand at first to see where it goes but I would rather not risk much more than that. I am not a cop. I have CPD in my blood. I am a former member of the armed forces and I currently own a few businesses. I will watch the postings. If people are interested in helping in any way post it. If there is interest (postings) I will set up an email address solely for getting us together to coordinate our approach. I will say that if anyone wants to be involved just to make money off this don’t bother. Startup companies even with low overhead take a long time to get out of the red.

7/30/2011 12:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the Ret.Det: THANK YOU....And now please enjoy your much needed time. Again....Thanks for speaking the truth!!!!!

7/30/2011 01:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"...the only real paper in this town is the Reader. The Trib/Times are race baiting scum and hopefully the shit they stir up will come to a neighborhood where THEY live."

--7/29/2011 09:15:00 PM

Exactly which marijuana-growing collective do you live in?

On which planet, did you say?

I see confused people every day, but this is remarkable.

7/30/2011 01:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What if it was a bb gun and the offender caused an eye injury or other great bodily harm. The use of force model justifies deadly force when one is in fear of death or "Great bodily harm".

7/30/2011 03:35:00 PM  
Anonymous The Box Chevy Phantom said...

In our honest and very biased opinion?

We would try our level best to kill the non-stop shit out of this little misfit whether full sunlight or the blue-purple hour of midnight if he brandishes the item in question.

"Fuck you and the horse you rode in on" to anybody who says The Police should check their fire in the face of this madness.

Keep. Killing. Them.

They boast and swagger about not having fear of The Police.

Funny how they fear each other and cry for The Police to baby-sit vast swaths of the West and South Sides because the inhabitants embrace a lifestyle of that encourages willful ignorance and embraces death and destruction purely for the sake of destruction and death.

It's the only way they think they can guilt-trip the rest of society into giving them what they want instead having a desire to reap the true benefit of joining the rest of society by virtue of hard work, delayed gratification etc.

The reality is that there will be some people who choose to be left behind.

Heh...

Bet you a fat-man that when Noah's Ark started floating and that water got kinda high, some fools were hollering and banging on the sides demanding to be let in...

"Noooaahhh! You racist for not lettin' us in!"

*Noah*

"Heh... Ain't gonna hap'n cap'n! if you wanted to be dry and inside, you had every chance to get right... Now yo ass is gonna get left! Gonna pray for you though..."

We think the stage is being set either for the death of this country as we know it or the second Revolution.

7/30/2011 05:41:00 PM  
Blogger Bloviating Zeppelin said...

Man, I just don't get it. Why don't cops just "wing 'em" like they do in the movies. Everybody gets shot in the shoulder in the movies. Shoot him in the shoulder. Or better yet, just shoot the gun out of his hand and --bingo! -- no threat and no having to shoot him in the shoulder. He'll need a good working shoulder, you see, for the point where he'll be doing serious time in Stateville; bench presses, you know. You can't get a good series of bench press reps out without good shoulder muscles.

BZ

7/30/2011 06:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"It looked like a convention of motorized wheelchair salesmen with all the young thugs and their paralyzing GSW's motoring up and down Chicago Ave from about 3600 - 3800 W. in their nice shiny 'guvment paid for battery powered wheelchairs.

"It was one of those West Side moments most people never get a chance to appreciate or comprehend."

--7/30/2011 08:35:00 AM

Sir, you are f__ing-A not kidding. It is terrifying to see the victims of the constant violence wheeling themselves, say, west on Roosevelt or Madison.

A thinking man gets a very strong "don't go east of Austin" feeling at this point.

Oak Park/River Forest High School is considering going closed campus (no wandering around at lunchtime) -- as someone put it in the neighborhood paper, "it's five blocks from the biggest drug problem in the world."

7/31/2011 12:01:00 AM  

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