Cop Shoots, Kills Assailant
- A man was fatally shot by police, and two officers were injured, during a confrontation following a domestic disturbance in the Austin neighborhood on the West Side this afternoon, police and a union spokesman said.
About 1:40 p.m. police were called to the 300 block of North Latrobe Avenue for a domestic disturbance involving a knife, and when officers tried to interview the suspect he started fighting, repeatedly striking one of the officers in the face, according to a preliminary statement from Police News Affairs.
The offender wasn't just striking the officer in the face:
- On arrival, the officers confronted the man, Camden said. At some point, the sergeant put a handcuff on the man’s wrist, Camden said. The man then at first became belligerent, then became violent, Camden said.
The female officer took out pepper spray, and tried to disable the man, unsuccessfully, Camden said. The man attacked the sergeant, and at some point was able to get on top of the sergeant, beating him about the head and shoulders, Camden said.
The sergeant said to the officer, “shoot him, shoot him.” But the officer was reluctant to fire because she was afraid of shooting the sergeant, Camden said.
Soon after, the sergeant was able to get his gun out and fired at the attacker, fatally wounding him, Camden said.
Both officers were taken to the hospital and are expected to recover.
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posted by SCC at 5:55 PM
85 Comments:
Good shoot!!! One less order of protection my friend will have to file in Crook County.
Hope the officers recovery goes well. God speed.
I know exactly what is going to happen next and so does every other officer with an IQ of over 75. Westside "ministers"(very few of whom are graduates of real seminaries) are going to meet with the police exempts and aldermen to discuss "trigger-happy polices." Never in the conversation will the cultural crisis of the black community that emerged from the Johnson era great society polices be discussed. Rampant narcotics sales, sexual deviance and incest, extreme violence within and between families will all be disregarded and the singular focus with be "trigger happy police." Police exempts, many of whom owe their careers to ministers and aldermen, will never in the course of these meetings even raise the issue of the increase of batteries to police officers or the number of cops who have been shot or killed in the past two years. Multi-generational patterns of imprisonment and gang membership within black families on the westside will be ignored in these conversations and the St Xavier or Chicago State educated exempts will placate the ministers with pledges of improved training for police in the use of force and "cultural" skills training as to how to deal with "the community." Absent from these conversations will be any mention of the fact that blacks seem to be almost exclusively the only "community" with a serial propensity toward killing the police. Never will the exempts raise the logical question of why Irish, Mexican, Polish, Swedish, Chinese, Korean, Czech, Serbian, Croation, Jewish, Japanese, Palestinian, Brazilian, German, Russian, Greek, Peruvian, Nigerian, or Norwegian residents of Chicago do not seem to get killed by the police and why Black Americans seem uniquely have the distinction of elevating encounters with the police to the level where the use of lethal force in self defense is required of officers. Church sermons by Jaguar driving ministers with meaty IR numbers will focus in on the high numbers of white and hispanic officers in 15, 11, and 25 policing "our community" and how these officers are racis' and "insensitive" to the "needs" of the community. Seldom if ever will these same ministers mention to their congregants the need to finish school, acquire job skills, maintain a conventional male headed nuclear family, or not use violence as a means of settling disputes among themselves or with the police. Nor will they discuss the very small number of black men who can actually become police officers due to the high numbers of black applicants with criminal histories and cannabis positive hair and urine tests. The high numbers of white and hispanic cops on the westside will be attributed, as is every other perceived problem in the black community, to "racism." No mention of the criminal histories of those recently shot by the police on the westside will ever be uttered in these churches. To acknowledge that Black people actually have some role to play in their fates would be more sacrilegious than if the ministers led prayers praising satan.
God Bless the Police.
And so the cycle of violent black offenders will continue even in death as the living one's never break stride.
Just asking..but can't cops carry something stronger than pepper spray like tasers or is that "unlawful" in Chicago?
8/03/2011 07:23:00 PM
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bout sums it up!
If a sergeant ordered me to "shoot him" that SOB would be leaking all over from many new holes, at least one between the eyes. But then I am trigger happy. The problem would be with the "cease fire" part.
Good job bob. Glad you will be around to fight again. Not so luck is The Screaming Skull who was called down to the Supes office today and told his services are Jo longer needed. He resigned today.
How could this be happening?
The mayor and the super just got done reaching-out to this west-side community doing marches and stuff!
Maybe dey just be confused cuz dem illegal immigrants can break da laws and get scholarships as rewards for it -- so dey think dey can do it too.
And now Obama has setup entrepreneur programs for illegals to start businesses too.
Pay no attention to the Broken Windows!!
Great job Sgt R.D. Was very low key as my tact Sgt.
Glad your okay.
Anyone with a scoop on the brawl between three water department workers and a detective in the 7700 block of Clarence Saturday? I heard Rahm's Office put the clamps on the story. Video of attack on You Tube.
That 2nd post is one of the BEST reads I've seen in a long time. Outstanding.
Crazy, Very sad event! I hope all officer involved make a full recovery.
the St Xavier or Chicago State educated exempts will placate the ministers with pledges of improved training for police in the use of force and "cultural" skills training as to how to deal with "the community
Very well stated, would make a great piece for ST editorial.
Frank Main,why dont you try a situation like this.You pu--y.
Holy shit, my a-hole puckered just reading the story.
God bless the police.
...your rod, your staff they comfort me.
8/03/2011 07:23:00 PM
I'm born, raised, and currently working on the westside. Every word you typed is true. Which is why, as much as I enjoyed being a kid and growing up there, I moved the fuck off of the westside as soon as I could. I didn't want my children to grow up in that enviroment. Sadly, it appears that my current neighborhood (022) is all but headed in that direction. I should have followed my first instinct and moved north.
The sgt is my old partner. I know him very well. He would not have shot unless he thought he was going to die if he didn't. That means that the bad guy deffinately needed shooting. Thank God the Sgt will be home with his wife tonight.
God bless and peace to those officers.
Also, 8/03/2011 07:23:00 PM
says it all but i would also add that another reason the black community dislikes the police has nothing to do with "respect." it has more to do with how the police are disrupting their underground economy of taking government checks and supplementing that with narcotic sales, prostitution, vice, money laundering, and who knows what else.
Just a heads up:
They are planning for the possibilty of major riots and insurrection in urban areas if Obama loses next year......
They still feel he will eek out a win, but are getting increasingly scared as the nation tanks and the possibilty of a loss increases.
Plan ahead now to have your families out of Chicago on election night.
In fear of his life being beaten into unconsciousness then killed. Good job sgt. Me and my partner have discussed this exact scenario many times. If a 250 pound jail mound of muscle attacks you and u have no chance, totally justifiable to shoot him.
Look for daley and J-Fled to organize a march against the "trigger happy" police with their buddy Frank Lame. It will be the politically correct thing to do. You see how fast they dumped TRU and MSF , and how fast they strip anybody and everybody???
It is the politically correct thing to do. Even if their policies kill policemen and maime CPS kids they will not bat an eyelash because it is the politically correct thing to do. IPRA and the phoney crony police board and Lovey and Lovey do thier "jobs" fucking police and endangering the public , because it is he politically correct thing to do. Now go out and put your dick in a wringer you hair gel "hard chargers", and see how fast your union and wife and friends forget you because it is the politically correct thing to do. That is a fact baby.
Good to know the right people went home to their families tonight.
Speedy recovery Sarge. You did what you had to do to save your life.
Too many of these shootings are the result of sloppy police tactics. Even if a boat load of offenders are killed, it's not worth one officer.
Watch your tactics on traffic stops and domestics. Wait for backup. Take control early in the encounter. Get cuffs on quickly. Give orders at a distance. Evaluate how offenders respond and act accordingly. Be aware of distance and shielding in every encounter.
I see too many cops doing things that put them at a disadvantage, particullarly on traffic stops, and that is how police get hurt.
To 0723pm I couldn't have said that better myself! my thinking exactly
@ 7:23pm.
Eloquent and concise. That says it all my friend.
Glad this had a happy ending.
I've been on this job over a quarter of a century and I don't ever recall a similar spate of attacks on the police and therefore police shootings. This should be truly alarming and disturbing to every resident of this city.
But the politicians and revruns are mum. They want the sheep to believe everything is hunky dory.
We are so fucked. Can't wait to retire and get the hell out of this shithole.
Fantastic second post here. Says it all and then some more. Until the coversation is allowed to be heard in the mainstream media about the ingrained failure of a large sector of the black population then the problems will continue.
OT --
Had to dig for any info at all --
Woodstars Festival in Maywood "quiet and sparse"
By BILL DWYER
August 1, 2011 7:44PM
"Woodstars Festival website showed parking for 2,309 cars. Reserved pavilion and lawn seating for 5,300 people for each of five scheduled concerts Friday through Sunday, at $20 to $65 per ticket."
“There were times when there were less than 100 people there,” said one officer who spent the weekend in the area, and who asked not to be named. “Sunday evening at (the finale concert) there were maybe a thousand people in the whole place,” he said, repeating “maybe.”
“The Porta-Potties probably cost them more to rent than they sold in tickets,” he added.
"The grounds were quiet on Sunday afternoon at 2:30 p.m., with no one on stage, despite a scheduled performance. On Thursday, Friday and Sunday mid-afternoons, there were no more than 30 or 40 people in the carnival area."
http://riverforest.suntimes.com/news/6831079-417/woodstars-festival-quiet-and-sparse.html
I think "fell flat on its face" would about cover it...
"Preliminary estimates from River Forest officials put the cost for additional public safety personnel at $20,000," not to mention the many Cook County Sheriff's personel who were asked to work days off at an estimated cost of $100,000 to $150,000.
Great job Sgt and a speedy recovery.
To 8/03/2011 07:23:00 PM
Perfect.
God bless the officers and Sgt. Involved. Sooner than later they have to let us take back the streets. I only hope the new Sup. has someone bending his ear as to what has been going on. If not under his watch, possibly the next will back the police in their efforts to make the streets safe as they were back in the mid to later 90's. No more gangbangers on the corners....its my corner...not yours. I pay my taxes...you have never. I will be going home safe at night....you wont, either by my hand or some random asshole that belongs to another ao called gang. The Chicago Police will once again run the streets and put fear in those who try to defy us. God bless my brothers and sisters...be safe until then.
A. I wasn't there --
-- but if the sarge was down on his back and the assailant was straddling him flailing away, one option may have been to sit down and take a head shot on the assailant at an upward angle, away from the sarge.
There is a technique taught similar to this for protection of dignitaries, called "crowd shooting." Sit down and shoot upwards to minimize chances of hitting close-packed innocents.
As close-range as it gets, down and dirty, nothing pretty about a gunfight, nasty f__ing sordid bloody mess.
Coppers go home safe, you win.
Glad it worked out OK.
I keep seein' those giant cans of malt liquor. It's August. Stay safe, everyone.
When a violent bastard goes this far we have every right to shoot him. If this animal was able to get a hold of one of the officers weapons he would have shot all three. Better him than us. I do believe the reason we are seeing so much aggression against the police is because of the bogus reverands spewing their hate at the authority of the police to keep order. The media doesn't help with their bogus one sided stories that make us look like the enemy. If you want to attack cops then be prepared to meet your maker.
Well done. Now get well!
God bless the Police!!! Father of two police officers
@ 8/03/2011 07:23:00 PM:
Very cogent post!
Sounds like a rough one, best wishes and speedy recovery to these officers.
P.S.
Well said, 7:23 pm
so long shi*head
To the 723 post
That was Aswsome well said unbelievably well written. Filled with so much truth that m Mitchell will blame someone else. I hope she reads this and writes an article referring to this post.
Blue Hill Ave.
In a report posted on the website " Jews For The Preservation of Firearm Ownership ", the following ;
" In a story almost without precedent, CBS identified Chicago's high murder rate as almost totally gang related and
geographically isolated " .
..with surprising candor, CBS announced that " up to 60% of shootings are gang related and that more than 90% of the offenders have criminal histories and up to 80% of the victims have criminal histories. "
For the record, " gang related and geographically isolated "
But we know that, don't we?
The only clueless one's, or not willing to admit it, are Rahm, McPuppet, and Chicago's Lame Stream Media, oh yes, and of course 'da rev'runs.
Please delete the irrelevant rant. Good shoot. Self defense on an assailant. Hope the PO & Sgt are OK.
To 8/03/2011 07:23:00 PM.
I don't usually read the the long rants here, but that was no rant. Great writing.
What 8/03/2011 07:23:00 PM said!
If she was worried about hitting the Sarge, this is all she needed to do: Dodge this!
Pat Camden looking out for us again!!! Great move by FOP to hire him as a spokes person!!!!!! A blow by blow of what happened! Speedy recovery to both Sgt and PO....... tough situation that turned into one less POS abusing our Officers and the system.
at 8/03/2011 07:23:00 PM
GREAT GREAT analogy!!! Great truth spoken in your post. BUT this is an insignificant blog. No one is listening or are they?
Wait til all of the troops find out about Supt Mcstupid's plan next year. He's going to attempt to down size the 2nd watch from the already short and extremely undermaned watch by 1/2 and put all those officers on afternoons. As if it was dangerous enough with the bare bones minimum manpower. This guy is a straight up tool. Okay, got to run. My lunch break is over. I have to get back to the box and drive in circles for the rest of the night.
The second entry, although extremely long is one of the best pieces i've read on this blog.
WOW..that must have been quite a scary situation....just trying to picture it in my mind gives me the chills!
From the sgt. Getting violently attacked to the female officer who had to make a split second decision to shoot and possibly hitting the sgt.
I'm sorry the two officers had to experience that but I'm so glad the officers will be okay and that the sgt. Took down that disgusting piece of filth and slime!! Good riddance and enjoy your one-way ticket to hell....you deserved it!!!
God Bless and keep every officer safe and return them home every night!!
Awaiting Mudface Mitchell's new column on how the bad poleeces who dun kilt the poor innocent man for no good reason!
Just sickening!!
BIG surprise that Channel 5 mentioned NOTHING at 10 about the subject being armed with a knife, resisting arrest (cuffed), or beating the sergeant in the head.
Nope. Pretty much just "Police respond to a domestic disturbance, get into a 'scuffle' with the offender, and shoot and kill him."
Oh, and to finish off the "story," they tossed in that neither officer received life-threatening injuries.
Just a clear inference that the trigger-happy police shot an unarmed man who didn't even hurt 'em all that bad.
The comment by 0723 should be sent to every media outlet and the racist bitch Mary Mitchell along with every fake reverend this would be the only time I would love to hear what they have to say
Well said 7:30
11:33 great quote..
"...If you want to attack cops then be prepared to meet your maker".
FUCK YOU ASSHOLE!
Great job.
If a sergeant ordered me to "shoot him" that SOB would be leaking all over from many new holes, at least one between the eyes. But then I am trigger happy. The problem would be with the "cease fire" part.
8/03/2011 08:08:00 PM
Very well said!!!!!!!!!!!
Good job bob. Glad you will be around to fight again. Not so luck is The Screaming Skull who was called down to the Supes office today and told his services are Jo longer needed. He resigned today.
8/03/2011 08:21:00 PM
Holy Shit! Are you serious? That would be one pain in my ass removed. Next!
Anyone with a scoop on the brawl between three water department workers and a detective in the 7700 block of Clarence Saturday? I heard Rahm's Office put the clamps on the story. Video of attack on You Tube.
8/03/2011 08:40:00 PM
Can you provide the link?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Too many of these shootings are the result of sloppy police tactics. Even if a boat load of offenders are killed, it's not worth one officer.
Watch your tactics on traffic stops and domestics. Wait for backup. Take control early in the encounter. Get cuffs on quickly. Give orders at a distance. Evaluate how offenders respond and act accordingly. Be aware of distance and shielding in every encounter.
I see too many cops doing things that put them at a disadvantage, particullarly on traffic stops, and that is how police get hurt.
8/03/2011 10:25:00 PM
Very well said. Also, it wouldn't hurt if a group of officers on each watch practiced police techniques like two to three times per month.
Too many of these shootings are the result of sloppy police tactics. Even if a boat load of offenders are killed, it's not worth one officer.
Watch your tactics on traffic stops and domestics. Wait for backup. Take control early in the encounter. Get cuffs on quickly. Give orders at a distance. Evaluate how offenders respond and act accordingly. Be aware of distance and shielding in every encounter.
I see too many cops doing things that put them at a disadvantage, particullarly on traffic stops, and that is how police get hurt.
8/03/2011 10:25:00 PM
Excellent post! Thanks for the reminder!
07:23---
I totally agree, except you forgot to mention the baby Pez dispensers, the ghetto mamas who keep popping out kids as long as they can breed...
who can't take care of one child, let along 6 or 10.
If white America saw what actually goes on in these ghettos we'd have a new president.
And why isn't there a limit on handouts? You get 'X' amount, then you get a J-O-B. Cradle-to-grave entitlements have got to stop!
I think that a lot of these shootings are happening due to the loss in manpower. In this situation there were only 2 cops on a domestic. Years back there would be 4-6 cops on the same call and the animals would show respect when the additional cops were on the scene. Today we are stretched so thinly that we're lucky to get the bare minimum on calls. When superiority of manpower fails; superiority of firepower has to take over.
Father Phlucker on WGN 0805 spewing shit about the debt deal.
Funny, he doesn't sound black at all! He sounds like a respectable white priest!
Said the poor feel 'disposable.' Um. Yep. They are.
St. Sabina is the largest African American church in the country.
Whining about entitlements being cut.
Gov't has allowed 'this illegal gun thing' to continue without restrictions. Wants guns titled from the manufacturer forward.
What a sidestepping piece of shit--Robin B. tried to ask him some tough questions, but let him skate with his answers....piss poor interview.
Every Assailant whether 13 years old or 83 years old, deserves to be filled with 'trigger happy' lead.
Or just send over Frank Main to mediate any WestSide disputes.
to the author of the second post. i wish there was a way i could put that up on a billboard and let everyone read that on a daily basis.
you summed up what most feel and you did it so well i want to thank you. noone wants to accept responsibility and whats the best way to do that, have a scapegoat, and we the police are the scapegoats.
Thank you for your most excellent post and great read.
stay safe everyone and please remember to write Bill Cozzi.
Please Please everyone stay safe out there, back one another up and take care of one another, life is to short and can be gone at the blink of an eye.
Free Bill Cozzi
To the dude taking about tactics at 10:25pm:
You are so right right right. Everyday i see people doing some lazy ass approach to every situation. So unsafe! It almost comes down to not having lazy unsafe backup in many situations. A lot of pepole dont know, dont care or hope everyhing is hunky dory. Anytime animal doesnt get the right answer, you could expect resistance in all kinds of forms!
God Bless you Sarg. Get well and be safe
@ 8/03/11 1025pm I so agree with you! On sloppy tactics the im so lazy I don't want to cuff anybody. The im gone tell you 3 or 4 times to do something! Being aggressive enough quick enough is the key when a person knows u mean business their response to you as the aggressor is completely different as opposed to the other way around!
Be safe and keep it safe guys and gals!
Anonymous said...
Anyone with a scoop on the brawl between three water department workers and a detective in the 7700 block of Clarence Saturday? I heard Rahm's Office put the clamps on the story. Video of attack on You Tube.
8/03/2011 08:40:00 PM
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It would really help if there was a link to this. What should we look up? "Rahm's office puts the clamps on the story"
To the second poster:
Two clinks of the rocks glass to you my friend.
Get well soon sargent, and join us back out at the circus.
God bless the CPD.
Stay blue.
I see too many cops doing things that put them at a disadvantage, particullarly on traffic stops, and that is how police get hurt.
8/03/2011 10:25:00 PM
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Hey asshole, you obviously are not one of us. We don't monday morning quarterback an officer's actions here. Things don't always conform to the scenarios and tactics you learn from your Guns and Ammo magazine. Work in our city for a minute and you would know that.
"There are people who need to be killed" This was one of them...
09:22 PM said that 022 is getting as bad as the west side. I moved here years ago from north austin, and it seems pretty good still, to me. The 19th ward does a great job of providing city services, and the officers in 022 do a good job of keeping the crap off of our streets. I think Kuemmeth is doing a decent job as commander.
Retired from 015
Good job CPD. I hope all involved can heal up quickly and get back out there to fight the good fight. Best Wishes.
Good job bob. Glad you will be around to fight again. Not so luck is The Screaming Skull who was called down to the Supes office today and told his services are Jo longer needed. He resigned today.
8/03/2011 08:21:00 PM
Holy Shit! Are you serious? That would be one pain in my ass removed. Next!
If a Deputy Superintendent is a pain your ass, you must REALLY be a FU*& up.
09:22 PM said that 022 is getting as bad as the west side. I moved here years ago from north austin, and it seems pretty good still, to me. The 19th ward does a great job of providing city services, and the officers in 022 do a good job of keeping the crap off of our streets. I think Kuemmeth is doing a decent job as commander.
Retired from 015
022 is nowhere near as bad 015. What I meant was though it's still an overall good district to live in, 022 isn't quite as nice as it was when I first moved here, 17 years ago. And we all know the tearing down of the Robert Taylor, Stateway Gardens and other CHA projects contributed greatly to the change. Still, I'm mindful of how much worse it could be. My partners lives in 004. Talk about a district that took a direct hit from the influx of project rats. 004 before the project tear down and after, are two totally different ditricts.
Good job bob. Glad you will be around to fight again. Not so luck is The Screaming Skull who was called down to the Supes office today and told his services are Jo longer needed. He resigned today.
8/03/2011 08:21:00 PM
He was ready to go anyway. The last Deputy Superintendent to leave wasn't filled. Maybe we are cutting some command staff and restructuring.
09:22 PM said that 022 is getting as bad as the west side. I moved here years ago from north austin, and it seems pretty good still, to me. The 19th ward does a great job of providing city services, and the officers in 022 do a good job of keeping the crap off of our streets. I think Kuemmeth is doing a decent job as commander.
Retired from 015
8/04/2011 02:37:00 PM
West side is fine. Everything east of Vincennces is up for grabs. The north end is a zoo also. 022 don't have half the cops it needs. The Commander is decent and the people in 022 work their asses off.
The Sergeant made the right call. He was in fear of his life. When someone is on top of you and trying to beat you unconcious, there is a good chance they will try to get your weapon or will definately get it. Then the savage will use it on the Sgt. or the other PO present. Made a great call. Even though the offender was using hands, it would have escalated very quick if he wasn't stopped. Speedy recovery to both the Sgt and PO. Glad to see you are going home to the family. The dog ass had a long background of violence.
Hell with the pepper spray and taser. Bring back the maglites. Saved many coppers lives years ago. Just have to remember to hit them in the head only when lethal force is allowed. But you hit them in the arm or leg, they are not going to use that part of the body for awhile. Immediate put down is nail them in the groin with it. Instant end of fight. But then again many times shooting them is the only choice.
A long time ago, I worked in the retail industry. I remember and could hardly forget a westside revrund and his woman bought 10,000 worth of mechandise and widdled the price down to 5,000 after a very ardous and lengthy time with the two.
Finally, just to get rid of them, not only did they get the deal but they also demanded free stuff as well.
When all was said and done....what did they do but whip out their church tax exempt letter for their own personel use and then charged it to the church!!!
Unbelievable!!!
Oh and they were dressed to nines and driving a very ghetto fabulous cadillac!!
Great job by the sergeant. Heal well, Sarge.
8/03/2011 07:23:00 PM
Read it twice it was such a great post...very accurate
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