Good News
- Convicted felons found illegally carrying guns will now face automatic jail time under a measure Gov. Pat Quinn signed into law today.
The new law removes the option of probation for felons who are convicted of unlawful use or possession of a weapon, which will now result in two to 10 years behind bars. Jail time increases to three to 14 years for each additional violation or for felons who are caught with guns while on parole or supervised release.
The measure comes after the shooting death of Chicago Police Officer Thomas Wortham, who was killed outside his home during an attempted robbery last year. Some of suspects in his death had previously been convicted on gun charges.
This appears to be loosely based on Virginia's "Project Exile" where gun convictions led to lengthy sentences. Two years is better than probation, but now we wonder if the "shorties" are going to be packing the guns now, leading to more 13-year-old future brain surgeons getting shot.
Labels: crime
posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
45 Comments:
The only reason that I could figure why they are waiting six months to enforce this new law is that they need time to turn out all the dope smokers to make room for them
Bring back the death penalty, clear and simple & an apology!
Am I asking too much?
The death penalty is more appropriate with the increasing amount of certainty based on forensic evidence-- mainly DNA, video recording, fingerprints, etc...
...let me stop myself right here.
Good news, yes.... but what does that translate to in a shitbird's mind?
Instead of tossing the gun on a garage roof, I'm gonna take my chances and shoot at the police-- I'm gonna go to jail either way!
Now, back to my campaign to bring back the death penalty...
Is there an exemption for previously convicted aldermen?
More good news - Meeks Salem School Closing. Gotsta have money for his megachurch instead.
Great; it about time!
2 to 10 years or 3 to 15 means 2 or 3 years. This is all bullshit. Should have made it 5 years or 10 years. They do less than half of their time anyway.
WOW, lets see how long this lasts...
I got $20 on Jan.
BTW, who was the last person to be charged with "Armed Violence"?
What will likely happen is the States Attorneys Office will plead most cases down to a lesser charge to avoid the expense of a trial.
It's still another weapon in their arsenal, but I suspect it won't be directly used much. Maybe used as leverage for a quick plea and a shorter sentence.
good job Quinn for once
Long overdue... Of course I wouldn't expect much in the way of enforcement in Crook County. Here, we travel to the beat of our own drum.
If they were going to enforce this, they're going to need more prison cells!
As everyone has known they will give the shorties the "weight" because they are charged as a juvi and won't talk. Something has to give on the shorties, to make it even more stringent where they can't skate either...... ~and then I woke up from a nice dream~ Lets hope this works in a better way to help everyone out!
Am I getting nearsighted or is concealed carry getting further away.
If indicted, I won't run! sign anything Quinnn said.
Q is a rat and a traitor what goes around better come around soon.
So is this gun law #21,753 then?
Anonymous said...
More good news - Meeks Salem School Closing. Gotsta have money for his megachurch instead.
8/03/2011 12:43:00 AM
That explains why he was working so hard for school vouchers. He wanted to increase the enrollment, (and govnent funds), at his school.....
Another worthless law. They can't even keep murderers in jail longer than ten years. I've run across a few which had been released on good behavior, or perhaps because of the over-crowding?
The death penalty is really needed. But bring back the electric chair or the hangman. Not this putting down the bad guy like an old dog.
This law sounds about right for firearm possession by a felon. Still, the one I'd really like to see would be firmer sentencing for any sort of agg batt or worse with a firearm. Pulling triggers as crimes should carry the weightiest sentences.
As you say, a good idea but not far enough. And it needs an incentive to not USE the weapon. So how about a structure like first possession (by a felon) = 3-5 years and NO parole, while firing the gun (even if you miss) = 50 years no parole? Second possession or firing = life.
Firing at ANY first responder, by anyone = life.
Firing at thugs = medal and cash reward.
No parole for violent offenders period would improve our city immensely, too.
SCC you hit it the nail on it's head. More juvy's are going to be packing heat and more of them are going to be involved in shootings. Watch out for the juvy's officer's.
This is just fantasy bullshit, it'll never happen. Alvarez will plea bargain to a lesser charge that carries no mandatory jail time. Alvarez must pander to her constituents needs and ignore law abiding CITIZENS.
They are currently working on an exclusion for illegal aliens. No sense giving them any more hurdles to overcome to live here.
Anonymous said...
2 to 10 years or 3 to 15 means 2 or 3 years. This is all bullshit. Should have made it 5 years or 10 years. They do less than half of their time anyway.
8/03/2011 12:47:00 AM
this is they said when they brought out the armed habitual offender statute. it was a class x. minimum 6yrs right??? wrong they were still pleaing out those to probation as well. the asa's will do the same with this.. bet your ass....
Our prison system is a joke!!! Our legal system (in Illinois) is a joke......
now ASA's will make it harder to get charges
Safety Alert: All the more reason for that convicted felon carrying a firearm to run from then shoot at the police cause he don't want to go back to jail. Be careful!
all this means is that the judges will now have extra pressure to produce a finding of not guilty. Or they will give time considered served and bull shit like that. All this is nothing more than Quinn publicity to make him look tough on crime. Hire more cops.
That just means the judsges will be throwing out alot more of the gun cases because they dont want to put the young man in jail for this offense. Make sure you write that paper well. Just wait and see.
BTW, who was the last person to be charged with "Armed Violence"?
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probably some copper
•Convicted felons found illegally carrying guns will now face automatic jail time under a measure Gov. Pat Quinn signed into law today.
HA!
YA right...
WTF We get something good and almost all the posts are bitch bitch bitch. Lets just be glad WE got one this time.
Is this charge ANOTHER felony that will require approval from Felony Review? If so, I see it going NOWHERE... at least in Cook County! Denied, denied, denied!
Quinn probably already has the mechanism in place for early releases of all these mutts in the rest of the state, so that IDOC isn't needing more prison cells to house them all!
Anonymous said...
What will likely happen is the States Attorneys Office will plead most cases down to a lesser charge to avoid the expense of a trial.
It's still another weapon in their arsenal, but I suspect it won't be directly used much. Maybe used as leverage for a quick plea and a shorter sentence.
8/03/2011 01:12:00 AM
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I agree with one additional caveat: Faced with a mandatory sentence, most liberal panty wetter judges will find them not guilty of the gun charge and guilty of a lesser offense so that they can give probation and get a campaign contribution from a reverend.
Seen it too many times to think the practice is an anamoly.
More good news - Meeks Salem School Closing. Gotsta have money for his megachurch instead.
8/03/2011 12:43:00 AM
And to think that Meeks was trying to shove the private school stipen on us. Well I guess it's best to close the school and not think about the childrens.
In the end, it's going to be the same old game. Let the animal roam free. They will just downgrade the charges in most cases and just use this new law as leverage. That is all. The animal knows he is at the advantage.
About time. How about truth in sentencing for all these criminals
Well the 1st part of the story sounded to go to be true. (Convicted felons found illegally carrying guns will now face automatic jail time under a measure Gov. Pat Quinn signed into law today.)
It should say Convicted felons found GUILTY of illegally carrying guns will now face automatic jail time under a measure Gov. Pat Quinn signed into law today.
We all know that they won't get found guilty around here with Anita in charge.
Illinois passed a new seat belt law for back seat passengers. It was signed into law on June27th of this year I believe, and went into effect on July1st of the same year. 4 days later.
But the new law for felons with an illegal gun will take 5 months to become enforsable? SMDH
ONLY IN ILLINOIS
Sorry but I have no faith in any new law meaning anything.
I mean we have laws on the books regarding illegal immigration and instead of taking them off the books if they are deemed wrong we just ignore them right?
Then there's this push to do the exact same thing with the laws regarding marijuana. If they don't make sense get them off the books but no we want to ignore and pick and choose at will who they will apply to.
We have laws on frauds and racketeering and yet investment bankers that blew up the global economy with their frauds -- we don't see a single banker at the top in cuffs being prosecuted. They issued liar loans, lied about asset values, lied on foreclosure documents submitted to the courts making a mockery of the entire process. The world knows it and yet it goes on untouched...why? A few low level cases were brought and we get the plea of we're not going to admit or deny anything...here...here's a few bucks in chump change now leave us alone and they go back to doing the same thing. Robo-signing, credit default swaps, the whole nine yards.
So no, I'm sorry. Just a lot of hoopla like we are actually working on a problem. When the jails get packed to the rafters with gun felons we'll let them out like we're letting out the pot smokers because the city can't afford to keep them in.
This diversion over here to keep you from looking at the illegal immigrants coming across the borders over there endorsed by the president and carrying their Fast and Furious weapons that the ATF gave them.
Come on over amigo the governor has a scholarship program for you -- and the president has an entrepreneurship program for you too.
What difference does it make if they won't prosecute them in the first place?
jeez maybe it's just me
i always thought if you were a convicted felon(with felonies)
and found with a firearm(not licensed)
you went to jail with out even thinking about it like auto matic
OT , Can you people from Illinois do something about voting out that stupid nitwit DURBIN ! He is a complete fuckin' moron . Now he wants to or already has introduced a bill to make all online sales carry a state sales tax no matter where it comes from or goes too . Lord save this country from the democrats .
yea then you will have jagwinkle come and say there are to many gun felons in cook county ( can we just write them a ticket and have them sign a promise not to carry a gun again.) who votes for these assholes.
OT , Can you people from Illinois do something about voting out that stupid nitwit DURBIN ! He is a complete fuckin' moron . Now he wants to or already has introduced a bill to make all online sales carry a state sales tax no matter where it comes from or goes too . Lord save this country from the democrats .
8/03/2011 07:04:00 PM
Even BETTER, the City Council wants city tax imposed on CHICAGOANS WHO RENT A CAR OUTSIDE CHICAGO. Are these people certifiably insane?
Here's part of it: "Enterprise Rent-A-Car, Alamo Rent-A-Car and National Car Rental — all of which are subsidiaries of Enterprise Holdings — are challenging a new law that requires a city tax to be charged on short-term rentals, only for Chicago residents who rent cars in the suburbs.
The suit filed in Cook County Circuit Court claims the Chicago Transaction Tax is illegal.
The tax in question was amended April 1, and says short-term car rental transactions that take place solely outside of Chicago are subjected to the tax and regulatory provisions for people with a Chicago city address on their Illinois driver’s license who rent outside of the city anywhere in the country, the suit said.
The rental companies can avoid the tax by proving the renter did not use the vehicle in the city, according to the suit."
Its about time!!! RIP Wortham, such a great guy. Honor to know him.
I thought convicted felons got 10 years in fed pen? Here in Texas they do.
So why the new law? Why not just enforce the federal one?
Anonymous said...
Illinois passed a new seat belt law for back seat passengers. It was signed into law on June27th of this year I believe, and went into effect on July1st of the same year. 4 days later.
But the new law for felons with an illegal gun will take 5 months to become enforsable? SMDH
ONLY IN ILLINOIS
8/03/2011 02:19:00 PM
Don't forget the new law requiring soccer goals to be firmly attached to the ground. Yes, it's a law. I can envision yuppie soccer moms demanding the law be enforced when they find a loose soccer goal.
It seems some years ago a goal tipped over and crushed a kid. Result: We need a new law prohibiting such things. But who get's arrested? Who gets the ANOV? We can't stop shitheads from killing each other but the legislature passes a law covering soccer goals. Wonderful.
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