Manpower "Adjustments" Begin
Word via e-mail that a few districts have begun redeploying manpower.
Supposedly, 013 has pulled people off days via seniority and sent them to First Watch on "90 day details." 004 is doing the same. The supposition is that we can move people off of Second Watch and nothing bad will happen.
We doubt any of them will see days in the near future.
Supposedly, 013 has pulled people off days via seniority and sent them to First Watch on "90 day details." 004 is doing the same. The supposition is that we can move people off of Second Watch and nothing bad will happen.
We doubt any of them will see days in the near future.
Labels: contract stuff
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
115 Comments:
Finally, a boss with balls. Redeploy these hair-gel half pints, send them to combat, and make them men.
Does anyone remember the TV commercial from the good old days (early 70's) of the Indian Chief, in all his regalia and on his horse?
The camera zooms in on the Chief as he and his horse come up to beautiful grassy area and the camera cues towards all the garbage on the ground.
Then they fade the shot away from the Chief's face as a tear slowly trickles down his cheek.
That is how I feel about the CPD....
Heard a rumor today, yes just a rumor but one worth researching. Some one from city hall has told some officers that the Mayor is putting the aldermen on notice, he's going to start our contract negotiations with a proposed 10 percent pay cut for CPD. Yes, I know the city has made no offers to the union yet so they won't know. If you have a friend in city hall or an alderman who might be honest with you ask them if they've heard about this. If true then maybe, just maybe, this will unite us.
well they tried in 004 but not sure if it went thru again-on fulo
014 - 6 spots from 3rd watch being moved to 1st.
Jody and Richie HELP!!!!
Not in 010. A ten person "incident team" composed of the ten eligible candidates for midnights has been formed to keep said candidates (low men on totem pole) from having to go to midnights. All this to cater to a few ass shakers and phone call cry babies with less then 5 years on. Real classy move on managements part. Team will operate from 1900-0400hrs. So much for the low man making sacrifices like the rest of us working police had too when we got thrown around (rightfully so) as seniority dictated.
Negative in 004
Detail in the same unit, not. Start the grievances rolling, it's a contractual issue. It's called watch bids. FOP needs to step up on this one.
Ha! Ha!! Ha!!!!!
014 people are jumping ship to get off 3rd and volunteer for midnights. Some got bumped due to snority.
Meatloaf anyone?
We were told this was going to happen in 009 also.
Supposedly the bottom 10 in seniority on 2nd watch were going to be sent to 1st and 3rd watch.
Haven't seen it in writing yet though.
If bottom 10 are management I don't know that they can't do it. Sort of shitty but I think they're within their rights doing it to management people. When you're management you're pretty much at their mercy.
I've heard rumors that when G-Mac has ideas he doesn't like being informed that it can't be done. If he's told something can't be done because of a contract he tells his underlings to find a way around it. Nice huh?
Wow--might as well be 90 years. BTW, is this allowed under our contract? Seems like 'manpower issues' could be just about anything the city decides. Might be time to tighten up the language in the contract?
12 is doing the same thing
From what I understand all P.O.s will work 1st and 3rd watch...TMA's to be hired back and will handle 2nd watch.
They could take away 50% and some of you goofs would still come in to work with both barrels blazimg. We dont stick together. We never will. The fop will be bought and paid for as usual. I second that emption.....there is a tear rolling down my cheek everyday.
This is in response to all the rumors regarding the next contract, fop will begin negotiating the contract on 30 June 2012, Rahm will want major changes, which will take us to around 30 June 2015.
NOBODY from days in 013 has been sent to 1st watch from either 2nd or 3rd. I know the rumors are out there but it hasn't happened. And if it does I will fight for them till every breath I have left in my body is gone. I will not stand for it. I will march right down to 35th street and demand that they stop this. I will fight for my men till I can fight no more! I will lead my men into battle against this unjust,unwanted and immoral order. (if there really is one)
Wonderful, let all the clouted bitches on days in 012 go to midnights. Let seniority rule! Tired of having people without any seniority on days just because they are related to some boss or because they love to kiss the district commander's ass.
That is how I feel about the CPD....
9/07/2011 12:09:00 AM
You feel like one of the Village People? Wierd.
it's all coming from McGruff, who has a chart (likes charts) showing that most crimes occur between 7 pm and 4 am, so.....he tells his deputies and commanders (who are scared of their own shadows).....move lots of folks to midnights! No one willing to say, hey boss...a) we can get things done without moving people; b) your idea is horseshit....one south side district averages about 25 two man cars on the street on 1st watch (take that, 16th taxpayers!); oh, wait, in a couple of months, there will be snow and cold overnight.....good move, jerseyshore
Not in 010. A ten person "incident team" composed of the ten eligible candidates for midnights has been formed to keep said candidates (low men on totem pole) from having to go to midnights. All this to cater to a few ass shakers and phone call cry babies with less then 5 years on. Real classy move on managements part. Team will operate from 1900-0400hrs. So much for the low man making sacrifices like the rest of us working police had too when we got thrown around (rightfully so) as seniority dictated.
9/07/2011 12:52:00 AM
Maybe the starting a new incident team is b.s. but get used to it. That happens all the time(made up cars, beats, and assignments) but as for not going to midnights-1900-0400hrs sounds pretty close to midnights to me. Then again I've been on days for the past 12 years. (4 months to go and I'm out of here. Good luck youngsters, seniority will come and it might get better. Then again with the leadership(lol) we have now I doubt it!!!)
can not wait to till the schools start going up for grabs...
I've heard rumors that when G-Mac has ideas he doesn't like being informed that it can't be done. If he's told something can't be done because of a contract he tells his underlings to find a way around it. Nice huh?
9/07/2011 03:25:00 AM
100% true! Jody was ignorant about our contractual rights, but never tried to go around them once they were pointed out. This guy doesn't like to be told what he can and can't do. He expects the exempts to come up with creative ways around things like contractual rights and even State Law. He's a very " do the right thing -wink/nod" kind of boss, giving the signal to "handle" things, but never actually saying what to do so it can't come back on him.
Scary.
Anonymous said...
I've heard rumors that when G-Mac has ideas he doesn't like being informed that it can't be done. If he's told something can't be done because of a contract he tells his underlings to find a way around it. Nice huh?
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I don't think this is a rumor. Take the time to read the comp stat meeting notes. You will be enlightened. GMAC is clueless!
This shouldn't surprise anyone. Haven't they always done the same thing when all those 'senior' officers who work days take their summer furloughs? Doesn't management move people from other watches to make up for 2nd watch shortages? So why does anyone think it couldn't be done in reverse? As far as 'working around the contract,' Weis and Masters did this all the time, or at least attempted to. Anyone who attempted to fight them
on this was either moved aside or demoted.
Any truth about the city defaulting on our paychecks. Also I heard that there was a closed door meeting at cityhall. The aldermen are going to try and pass a 5% pay increase to their part time job with a 15,000 dollar increase to their spending accounts?
CPD is no longer a sacred cow
other city workers were forced to take 24 unpaid days a year .
That's more than a 10 % pay cut.
they just need to sweeten the pot a little bit just like the cps did--- pay 1st watch officers more money than 2nd or 3rd watch officers and plenty of guys will be working midnites....
Good! And about time. It's been long enough that these do nothing daytime dollies have hidden on the 2nd watch because the commander likes the way they look in their 80/20s. Meanwhile guys are busting their ass on the 1st and 3rd watch and can't get time due.
Screw them. Some day ( 5-10 years from now) they can BID for days.
fifteen (15) peeps from days sent to 1st watch, to fill out the missing bodies on Entertainment Detail. will work from 2000 to 0100 hrs.
"Then they fade the shot away from the Chief's face as a tear slowly trickles down his cheek."
The tear was an eyedropper full of pennzoil. The Chief was my great uncle Fester.
Not in 010. A ten person "incident team" composed of the ten eligible candidates for midnights has been formed to keep said candidates (low men on totem pole) from having to go to midnights. All this to cater to a few ass shakers and phone call cry babies with less then 5 years on. Real classy move on managements part. Team will operate from 1900-0400hrs. So much for the low man making sacrifices like the rest of us working police had too when we got thrown around (rightfully so) as seniority dictated.
I agree with you that they should not be taken care of like that. However, I am so sick and tired of other PO's saying I put my time in. That may be true but this is a whole new ball game. I have 6 years and very, very, few people below me seniority wise. Say the department didn't hire for another 5 years, would it be fair to still call me the new guy and tell me to do my time?
This is going to happen city-wide all through the Dept. And yes THEY can do it for manpower projections. Each Unit/District has a Hot Zone where there are spikes in crime and must shift their manpower in to each zone until the spike shifts down. Like it or not most crimes happen between 2000 - 0400 hours. Strap yourselves in and enjoy the ride.
A rumor cicrulating at 35th street 5th floor is G-Mac is thinking of hiring "Snookie" as the News Affairs Media Girl! She cant do no worse than Monique Bond did. At least snookie likes to get drunk and party!
Sorry boys and girls get used to the night crawlers. I've been on my 90-day detail for 15 months now!
As long as the ones moved were "Management", it is within the contract. This has always been the danger of getting days on management's discretion....
Anonymous said...
Detail in the same unit, not. Start the grievances rolling, it's a contractual issue. It's called watch bids. FOP needs to step up on this one.
9/07/2011 01:46:00 AM
If you are the aggrieved party then you need to step up.
So little time left, I will have a year and 5 months of pension checks plus two COLA's before the next contract is settled.
10 years from now I will still be reading someone writing how the "FOP needs to step up on this or that." Individuals rarely step up, it's everyone for themselves but jeez, the "FOP needs to step up on this."
12 is doing it too. Bye bye clout babies
"Not in 010. A ten person "incident team" composed of the ten eligible candidates for midnights has been formed to keep said candidates (low men on totem pole) from having to go to midnights. All this to cater to a few ass shakers and phone call cry babies with less then 5 years on. Real classy move on managements part. Team will operate from 1900-0400hrs. So much for the low man making sacrifices like the rest of us working police had too when we got thrown around (rightfully so) as seniority dictated."
So they start an hour earlier than midnights? Wow, you couldn't find something more significant to bitch about? Teenage girls bitch less than people on this job. It's sad really, our pension is in Rham's cross hairs & you're worried about an hour difference in start time.
If your on management, enjoy midnights because you shouldn't have been on days! If your on a bid call the FOP and check the money box!
Finally, a boss with balls. Redeploy these hair-gel half pints, send them to combat, and make them men.
Hey tough guy i dont see you at the VFW. What did you do in the great Global war on Terror? Get a life you have no clue about real combat Semper Fi
We need to hire a shit hot lawyer that specializes in labor law. Fuck having patrolmen negotiating our contracts. Get in front of the city and fight them tooth and nail. If we try to play catch up we are all doomed.
First thing, to the post about an incident team that is going to be 1900-0400, the hours blow, I know I already work them. It's not mids, it's not afternoons, it sucks. But it is what it is. Now for the contract rumors, this happens every time the contract talks come around. A lot of posturing, don't sit here and bitch about it on SCC. That won't fix it, you have to start going to union meetings, bottom line. If you don't go to the meetings you can't have a voice in the negotiations. I know, I know, nothing gets done, it's all bullshit, etc. Well then don't go, but then don't bitch when you don't get what you expect. There should be no room at the FOP hall during a monthly meeting. It should be filled to capacity, or better yet overflowing. Get involved and make a difference. Everyone just wants to sit back and let the union do all the work; yes they are supposed to deal with the city, but you have to be involved and you have to show your support. Get involved, show a united front and see what happens.
SARCASM ON
1221
A Honest Aldercreep??
Surely You Jest.
ROFLMAO
Cut The Alderscum To 25 & Put The Savings From TIF & Other Dollars That They Have Robbed & Corrupted From Us Honest Workers Into More Blue Shirts On The Beat( No Specialized Clout Heavy Phone Call Units Pleeze) & WAHLAH!
A FULL Forensic Audit Is What I'm asking For
Just Imagine What It would Find In The Aldercreeps Books
Beat Manpower Shortage Filled With The Dollars Found & Pension Fully Funded Right?
SARCASM OFF
If your a management spot the department can do as they please with moving you to where they need you. If they try and move a bid spot then there is a grievance.
It's about time they get rid of Tac teams. I mean seriously what do they do that beat coppers don't do.
Some lazy ass know it all F/2 on days knows she's going to midnites and started complaining about an old injury....Go Figure...Worthless Hack....Guess your daddy can't help you now.
Same female that said she woulnt have to go to midnites.
Wanna bet the criminals and Gangbangers can figure out what shift the cops will be working. Does our contract allow the dept. to move us around like this in our own districts?
Methinks if cops can just hold to what they have without any pay increase they will be lucky. I don't know what Mayor Midget thinks he can gain by alienating the police. You can't insult this little jerk. Maybe when enough citizens get ravaged by the Thugs he will listen up. Maybe.
>>>I shot JR said...
Does anyone remember the TV commercial from the good old days (early 70's) of the Indian Chief, in all his regalia and on his horse?
The camera zooms in on the Chief as he and his horse come up to beautiful grassy area and the camera cues towards all the garbage on the ground.
Then they fade the shot away from the Chief's face as a tear slowly trickles down his cheek.
That is how I feel about the CPD....
9/07/2011 12:09:00 AM<<<
As it says, "People start pollution, people can stop pollution."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH0U2AsyoWU&feature=related
The actor is Iron Eyes Cody and the voice is William Conrad of the TV series Cannon.
>>>Anonymous said...
Heard a rumor today, yes just a rumor but one worth researching. Some one from city hall has told some officers that the Mayor is putting the aldermen on notice, he's going to start our contract negotiations with a proposed 10 percent pay cut for CPD. Yes, I know the city has made no offers to the union yet so they won't know. If you have a friend in city hall or an alderman who might be honest with you ask them if they've heard about this. If true then maybe, just maybe, this will unite us.
9/07/2011 12:21:00 AM<<
There will be a gathering in a couple of nights to celebrate a rather a very special retirement of someone we all hold dear.
Almost every living current or past exempt who ever wore a blue shirt will be there. J. Weis would be very out of place there and that is as kindly as I can state that semi-publicly.
If McCarthy does attend he will be asked about this very directly by several people. Yes or NO. A refusal to answer or I don't know is as good as a yes.
Remember why he was brought here.
CPD is a Sunken Ship, in the Bermuda Triange of Lake Michigan. It has been run aground by its Communist Leadership in City {Kremlin} Hall..
Hey Mayor Asshole, pay cuts and benefits also mean cuts to your crime fighting abilities!
You stupid Jagoff!
Da Pelon
I've heard rumors that when G-Mac has ideas he doesn't like being informed that it can't be done. If he's told something can't be done because of a contract he tells his underlings to find a way around it. Nice huh?
9/07/2011 03:25:00 AM
Hey Jersey Mac! FUCK YOU AND YOUR CRIME FIGHTING IDEAS! It will NOT be implemented!
How bout 050? Any news on po's there? I heard 50 were getting redeployed! Some to 015
They should just sell our contract to Germany like they did the skyway. That way we will not have to wait 99 years to get the city money back.
Anonymous I shot JR said...
Does anyone remember the TV commercial from the good old days (early 70's) of the Indian Chief, in all his regalia and on his horse?
The camera zooms in on the Chief as he and his horse come up to beautiful grassy area and the camera cues towards all the garbage on the ground.
Then they fade the shot away from the Chief's face as a tear slowly trickles down his cheek.
That is how I feel about the CPD....
9/07/2011 12:09:00 AM
I remember that commercial! Along with the Danley's Garage World ad, of course the Empire carpet commercial (late 70's and early 80's) and then the Victory Auto Wrecker's junk car ad (where the white dude with an afro/large hair pulls out his car door and it falls out onto the ground).
I hope and pray the young and productive officers in 025 3rd watch don't get launched to 1st watch. It would be a crying shame- to go out there and be aggressive and make arrests to only be dumped off to 1st watch. Why can't management give the young guys (the ones who are aggressive and work hard) a freaking break? What gives?
Can the city do this? Yes they can if you are on a watch because of management. If you are there by bid then they can't move you around. It's part of our contract.
Wow--might as well be 90 years. BTW, is this allowed under our contract? Seems like 'manpower issues' could be just about anything the city decides. Might be time to tighten up the language in the contract?
9/07/2011 05:24:00 AM
It's covered under section 23-5 of the contract. Was told by Aguilar this was going to be amended in the current contract. Guess that didnt come to pass?
if your are on management, they can do whatever they want with you until you are a bid.. read it its in the contract
90 day details for people on bid? Call fop now.
move management position officers first..............happens all the time and and unless 2nd watch most of them should not be employed. Paycheck to paycheck, hide and seek , where is the best hole?
Supervisors...............check your balls and Supervise!
Not only are they sending 2 officers reverse seniority from 2nd & 3rd watch to midnights in 013. They canceled a detail for a 3rd officer and he is packing his bags back to mids. Funny thing is, a young officer with almost zero time on job is currently detailed to a/4 deputy's office. According to the DC of 013 niether she or the CAPS officer (management on 2nd) count towards reverse seniority. Though both officer take up management spots on 2nd watch in 013. What a ball-less prickof a DC does 013 have?
Anonymous said...
They could take away 50% and some of you goofs would still come in to work with both barrels blazimg. We dont stick together. We never will. The fop will be bought and paid for as usual. I second that emption.....there is a tear rolling down my cheek everyday.
9/07/2011 06:50:00 AM
So true. I do believe like most, we have to answer calls, do paper, act if we see a crime with a real victim. But you still have a great number of tool's, some hair gel, some Viagra, out there solving gang banger on gang banger crime or chasing " DA JAB". Idiots one and all.
I shot JR:
Not on a horse but I get your point. Shed a tear, the CPD is dying a slow death.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R-FZsysQNw
The city will break the police union just like they are in the process of breaking the teachers' union. People are desperate for jobs. They will not risk losing them through job actions . The good days are over. It is only going to get worse.
If your a management spot the department can do as they please with moving you to where they need you. If they try and move a bid spot then there is a grievance.
Ok last time...bid and management have same rights to a watch. If your management on 2nd watch, thats your watch 80/20, remember...If they want to move you from a watch they have to ask for volunteers, and if not enough then go by seniority. READ YOUR CONTRACT !!!!!
The actor is Iron Eyes Cody and the voice is William Conrad of the TV series Cannon.
9/07/2011 02:01:00 PM
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And the actor is 100% Italian.
People should happy to go to mids in 014. Lt. D. H. AKA MEATLOAF, is the worst boss there. She will let you know that she knows it all. She smells like Lucky Strikes and vomit. Could not make a decision to save her life, but she will yell and scream. Hey Lt. Nobody wants to hear your stories they just want to get things approved. The lieutenants you relieve or the one relieving you think your a windbag, just go home.
The horrible bosses on this job have no personal life. They are nobodies at home, so they take it out on officers at work.
Reverse seniority! Sounds like they are finally moving the management people to where they belong. I've been on midnights for seven years my wife and children wish I had days also. Too bad I don't know the right people.
FYI... CAPS personnel, Dist Sec and Asst/Dist Sec are exempt bids, just like tact. They do not hold a bid spot or a management spot.
Reverse seniority for the detail--complies with the contract. Obviously, these reverse seniority people will come from the management ranks (first the 80% are picked by seniority, then the Commander picks the remaining 20% as management choices).
So far, so good.
The need for the detail in the first place is merely an admission by the Commander that he or she screwed up the allotment of manpower to the watches last December.
hey 6 year wonder, im a nfg with 10 years on the job
We need to use the fact that 1400 vacancies will not be filled to our advantage. This is our strongest bargaining chip and honestly a good thing when you take it into perspective. Lets be honest with ourselves- they were never going to fill those vacancies because they are incompetent. That being said the increased workload on an understaffed department SHOULD be used to secure our other demands. Lets stick together first and foremost, but let us secondly be savvy and use what we have available to us.
-7th district guy
013 DC? Did not know we had one!
No new PO,s on 1st watch. 10 crybabies and do nothings went to 1st in January.....management.
...all good riddance from the 3rd watch.
Now we have and don't have them on 1st.
straight to the hole...sgt's approved.
013 is now amoral,sinking hole.
Thank you DC and thank you LT Avila.
You are screwing already gang,tack and Neighborhood Relations! No wonder you got demoted from DC of 025.
God help Us
If your a management spot the department can do as they please with moving you to where they need you. If they try and move a bid spot then there is a grievance.
Ok last time...bid and management have same rights to a watch. If your management on 2nd watch, thats your watch 80/20, remember...If they want to move you from a watch they have to ask for volunteers, and if not enough then go by seniority. READ YOUR CONTRACT !!!!!
9/07/2011 05:37:00 PM
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You are fixed on that watch as an FOP member....regardless of by bid or management, unless you waive it. Supervisors, now, by bid are guaranteed the watch for the year. Management supervisors are period by period.
It's about time they get rid of Tac teams. I mean seriously what do they do that beat coppers don't do.
9/07/2011 12:58:00 PM
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Answer calls or write paper!
12 is doing the same thing
I sure would like to get on that daytime plain clothes mission team. Great breakfast every morning. I would like to decide which in progress calls to go to and jump on the paper if it's a good pinch. Sure would be great to leave early a few hours.
Wonderful, let all the clouted bitches on days in 012 go to midnights. Let seniority rule! Tired of having people without any seniority on days just because they are related to some boss or because they love to kiss the district commander's ass.
9/07/2011 07:43:00 AM
I work in 012 who are you referring to? Guess I am not clued in.
Finally, a boss with balls. Redeploy these hair-gel half pints, send them to combat, and make them men.
yes while your picking your ass in the squad stroke...
I hope and pray the young and productive officers in 025 3rd watch don't get launched to 1st watch. It would be a crying shame- to go out there and be aggressive and make arrests to only be dumped off to 1st watch. Why can't management give the young guys (the ones who are aggressive and work hard) a freaking break? What gives?
9/07/2011 03:42:00 PM
Get over yourself already you whining idiot.
Same thing just hit the c.o. book in 012
In 009 clout babies have a little more pull how else do you explain a copper with two months to retire getting booted out of a school,so the 009th district ho bag doesn't get the boot to midnight come change day.
12 is doing it too. Bye bye clout babies
finally how many of these kissasses are going only to go back to days in a few weeks....
Gary " Quota man " Mccarthy
Garry Francis McCarthy was born on May 4, 1959 in the Bronx, New York where he was the youngest of three children raised by his father, James, a World War II Marine and a New York Detective, and his mother, Marcella, a nurse. In 1981 Garry followed in his father’s and brother’s footsteps in pursuit of a career in law enforcement with the New York Police Department.
Well into his 40s, Garry F. McCarthy played outside linebacker for the New York Police Department’s football team.
In an interview with the Trib, McCarthy, who spent his formative years with the New York City cops before heading the Newark, N.J., department, mentioned a number of NYC strategies that could make their way to Chicago.
First among them: CompStat, the controversial NYPD program that charts crime by neighborhood and holds commanders accountable for reducing those numbers.
Adrian Schoolcraft: Now It’s Getting Serious
January 31, 2011
Many people think that the worst scandal in today’s NYPD concerns its alleged manipulation of crime numbers. They are wrong.
Even worse is how the department retaliated against the whistleblower cop who came forward with proof that bosses in his Brooklyn precinct had in fact manipulated the numbers.
After officer Adrian Schoolcraft secretly tape-recorded his superiors at the 81st precinct, ordering cops to downgrade felonies to misdemeanors, the department went into attack mode.
This culminated on Oct. 31, 2009, when Brooklyn Deputy Chief Mike Marino and a posse of officers yanked Schoolcraft from his Queens apartment in handcuffs and dragged him to Jamaica Hospital, where he was held in its psychiatric ward, against his will, for six days.
Compstat in New Jersey:
The Newark Police Department is being investigated by the federal government in the wake of allegations of discriminatory policing by department officers, according to Paul Fishman, the U.S. Attorney for the district of New Jersey.
The inquiry will evaluate whether the Police Department's practices are in violation of federal law, including the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Officials have begun conducting interviews and reviewing records to determine whether officers have a pattern of illegal stops and frisks and use of excessive force against civilians.
Work hard to reduce crime so they can justify laying off the police?
Newark laid off more than 160 police officers at the end of last year to close a budget gap, marking the city's largest force reduction in 32 years.
Chicago compstat:
Chicago Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy, who will mark his 100th day in the job tomorrow, firmly believes the city is safer since he took office, he tells the Chicago Sun-Times. As the native New Yorker sat with his back to the Chicago skyline in police headquarters last week, he ticked off the latest crime statistics to drive his point home. “Shootings: down 75 through today. That’s 1,516 last year and 1,441 this year. Murder: down 30 through today, from 290 to 260.”
Yeah Mccarthy will be here for a couple of years or until that NY police Commissioner job opens up. So, go get him those contact cards by stopping everyone for anything.
You make him look good and because crime is down they can justify layoffs and then he leaves and the Justice department comes in, just like in New York and Newark and the investigation begins into quotas and street stops.
Don't believe me just google the
Schoolcraft story about a legit NY cop, veteran and see what they did to him when he tried to whistleblow on Compstat.
It's about time they get rid of Tac teams. I mean seriously what do they do that beat coppers don't do.
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Well, let's see...what do tact officers do that beat officers (most of them anyway) don't?
Get days off changed with little or no notice.
Have starting times changed with little or no notice.
Every bullshit mission that the boss comes up with.
All of those fun details!Puerto Rican Fest, Bud Billiken Parade, Air and Water Show, Pride Parade, Back of the Yards, to name a few. Oh yeah...there's a good time!
All the bullshit arrests that the boss demands, but the beat guys don't have time for.
By the way - you have your riot gear? You ready to suit up and march with the 100,000 protestors in the spring instead of writing that missing persons report?
Yeah, I guess you are right...who needs them?
I'm sure you are the same guy who bitches when you have to work the late car instead of the early car you are used to. God forbid we mess with YOUR precious schedule.
Trust me - you want the tact teams to keep doing what they are doing. I'll take the stability of my beat car anytime - knowing that I can make plans on weekends in the summer ahead of time, and knowing what time I need to be at work every day of the week.
Been there, done that. It wasn't for me, but to those guys who are still doing it - THANK YOU.
-Former tact guy (for 15 years)
Squad where does the gps say my car is?
Ok, now where does the GPS in my radio say i am?
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I know I been here 89 days but I'm getting better at this. Maybe they'll send me back in 90 days? And i can try and find the station again after I learn how to tell time. Is 1800 hours Tuesday or Thursday?
Where am I now?
Where am I now?
Send me a relief to get to check off or I'll need someone of them time do shits slips Whatever.
Shits!
FOP and the shitty haven't settled the grievances, unfair labor practices and lawsuit from that 025 fire drill yet.
They must be getting sore ducks and raw assholes at 3510th from all those cloutsuckers that didn't go " Back to the Street!"
and enough braid to open a museum or make that a movie theater all they need are flashlights and a map of the balcony?
Come to 020 and don't worry because for sure you will get midnights
Listen to this...talking with some p.o.'s and i told them how our union isnt strong because no one sticks together. i said even if everyone starts to do just the min at work the bosses will just go to units and order them to pick up the slack. couple guys said so what...they then said if a sgt told you,you can have 3 on the end if you write shit loads of tickets they would. so as long as people work for a few on the end we will never have a good contract
Why is there a BS Intel Unit with no more than 30 POs and a Cmdr??? Eliminate another Gold Star spot. What is fair for Pos should be for Gold Stars. Jersey Roll them into Bomb and Arson.
We need mounted for what?
Good job frank
Why Does Intel unit 191 work 5 days a week and weekends Holidays Off.(Terrorist never sleep) Why not 3 watches and eliminate the OT and save $$$. A unit with 30 POs and a Gold Star come on
Second time an officer with senority got dumped so not only could she stay on days but also weekends off her relationship with the sgt on days should be investigated
Anonymous said...
013 DC? Did not know we had one!
No new PO,s on 1st watch. 10 crybabies and do nothings went to 1st in January.....management.
...all good riddance from the 3rd watch.
Now we have and don't have them on 1st.
straight to the hole...sgt's approved.
013 is now amoral,sinking hole.
Thank you DC and thank you LT Avila.
You are screwing already gang,tack and Neighborhood Relations! No wonder you got demoted from DC of 025.
God help Us
9/07/2011 07:44:00 PM
Why don't you whine a little more? I mean ... you are after all IN 013!!
fifteen (15) peeps from days sent to 1st watch, to fill out the missing bodies on Entertainment Detail. will work from 2000 to 0100 hrs.
9/07/2011 09:17:00 AM
Wow 2000hrs-0100hrs. A five hour day? Count me in, where do I sign up?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"Not in 010. A ten person "incident team" composed of the ten eligible candidates for midnights has been formed to keep said candidates (low men on totem pole) from having to go to midnights. All this to cater to a few ass shakers and phone call cry babies with less then 5 years on. Real classy move on managements part. Team will operate from 1900-0400hrs. So much for the low man making sacrifices like the rest of us working police had too when we got thrown around (rightfully so) as seniority dictated."
So they start an hour earlier than midnights? Wow, you couldn't find something more significant to bitch about? Teenage girls bitch less than people on this job. It's sad really, our pension is in Rham's cross hairs & you're worried about an hour difference in start time.
9/07/2011 10:34:00 AM
He/she is not pissed about the hours. He/she is pissed because they weren't picked for the team so they could wear jeans and baseball caps.
I hope and pray the young and productive officers in 025 3rd watch don't get launched to 1st watch. It would be a crying shame- to go out there and be aggressive and make arrests to only be dumped off to 1st watch. Why can't management give the young guys (the ones who are aggressive and work hard) a freaking break? What gives?
9/07/2011 03:42:00 PM
I'm assuming by your post you are the "young and aggressive cop" who makes arrests that is going to midnights because anyone with seniority has been through midnights and other bullshit to care about where they send you. And remember hard charger making arrests is nothing new. It didn't start and won't end with you going to midnights. Good luck there pal, Just keep it quiet through the night while I'm trying to sleep.
The city will break the police union just like they are in the process of breaking the teachers' union. People are desperate for jobs. They will not risk losing them through job actions . The good days are over. It is only going to get worse.
Agreed. It's a lot easier to to talk the the talk, than it is to walk the walk the walk, when it comes job security. Not to mention, most of the public seems to view us a greedy ingrates anyway. People will see the average guy with a few years making 70 to 80K, and that's all they'll see.
Trust me - you want the tact teams to keep doing what they are doing. I'll take the stability of my beat car anytime - knowing that I can make plans on weekends in the summer ahead of time, and knowing what time I need to be at work every day of the week.
Been there, done that. To those guys who are still doing it - THANK YOU.
-Former tact guy (for 3 years)
they just need to sweeten the pot a little bit just like the cps did--- pay 1st watch officers more money than 2nd or 3rd watch officers and plenty of guys will be working midnites
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Thats a great idea. Also, they should pay guys and gals on 4th watch less.
Anonymous said...
People should happy to go to mids in 014. Lt. D. H. AKA MEATLOAF, is the worst boss there. She will let you know that she knows it all. She smells like Lucky Strikes and vomit. Could not make a decision to save her life, but she will yell and scream. Hey Lt. Nobody wants to hear your stories they just want to get things approved. The lieutenants you relieve or the one relieving you think your a windbag, just go home.
The horrible bosses on this job have no personal life. They are nobodies at home, so they take it out on officers at work.
9/07/2011 06:15:00 PM
+++++++++++
Her and the Cpt. B (1st ) make a glorious couple!
They are Like Burp and Slurp
from Sigmond and the Sea monsters of yesteryear saturday cartoons...
Second time an officer with senority got dumped so not only could she stay on days but also weekends off her relationship with the sgt on days should be investigated
9/08/2011 07:54:00 AM
Sounds like the female officer from 2nd watch in 009.
She's constantly adding bullshit titles to her resume.
The one thing her resume is very light on is time spent working a beat car.
Gene Roy was so impressed with her he's trying to help her get to narcotics.
McCarthy , Close 13 and 21 already.
You are the Boss , do your job.
Fix the dept., instead of sticking it to same watch guys. There are so many "special teams" in the districts and Areas, hiding from working watches within the districts. If manpower is short why are we hiding 100s of officers?
Anonymous said...
We need mounted for what?
9/08/2011 06:58:00 AM
If you'd ever seen them in action during the protests, you wouldn't be asking such a dippy question.
"I hope and pray the young and productive officers in 025 3rd watch don't get launched to 1st watch. It would be a crying shame- to go out there and be aggressive and make arrests to only be dumped off to 1st watch. Why can't management give the young guys (the ones who are aggressive and work hard) a freaking break? What gives?"
you're soft if you are being aggressive in this environment. dump on the softballs all day long. maybe they'll get the point and slow things down so the city will stop messing with us when everything falls to shambles.
Anonymous said...
McCarthy , Close 13 and 21 already.
You are the Boss , do your job.
9/08/2011 11:02:00 PM
What's the matter? Are you one of those losers who can't get what/where you want so you want to close good places to work? Mind your own business, asswipe.
im mgmt in 011..bring on 1st watch...been there before and ill do it again...days will be in a rap all the time not because i left but because they are all dogs. have fun with your schools and your dogs!!
Offer incentives to work on the 3rd and 1st watch,a lot of senior officers with plenty of experience would then have no problem working these watches for extra money.
Commander roy promises a lot of stuff he's done with that female in 009 now it's sgt v problem.
Second time an officer with senority got dumped so not only could she stay on days but also weekends off her relationship with the sgt on days should be investigated
Sounds like the female officer from 2nd watch in 009.
She's constantly adding bullshit titles to her resume.
The one thing her resume is very light on is time spent working a beat car.
Gene Roy was so impressed with her he's trying to help her get narcotics.
Narcotics get the hell outta here, how disgusting is this female she lowest form of scum on this earth ,and doesn't seem to mind everyone knowing she's trash
unbelievable!!!!!!
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