Police Board Changes
Was this really necessary, or was it just a knee-jerk reaction to a bunch of police termination cases that didn't produce the desired results of the politicos (i.e. firing police officers)?
After years of resistance, a Chicago alderman's plan to shed more light on the largely secretive work of the city's police discipline review board gained momentum today.
Under Ald. Robert Fioretti's proposal, the votes of the nine-member Police Board would have to be posted online within 10 days. The board also would have to list the rationale behind its decisions, as well as the reasons members voted against rulings.“For far too long the decisions have remained without reasons,” Fioretti, 2nd, told members of the Public Safety Committee at today's hearing. “Two people who were charged with the same offense, one would receive a few days suspension, and the other one could be up to a year, two years.”
But we're pretty sure this is the real reason:
- Tracy Siska, executive director of the Chicago Justice Project, wrote a study two years ago that found the board declined to fire about two-thirds of the officers that the police superintendent recommended for dismissal. He also concluded the board was rife with rampant absenteeism.
We're pretty sure that two-thirds of the cases were pretty much BS and the Police Board saw though them. But that isn't the desired result of our liberal betters.
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
34 Comments:
This almost sounds like the board needs idiot doty from u of c. this clown fires anybody for anything. ruthless.
SCC, if they can get the police board to do this maybe they should focus their efforts now on judges and make the judges post their reasoning for all of their decisions online. Then when joe blow jagoff, a.k.a. the REEEE-peat offender commits another crime we can take a look at the judge's reasoning. It would be QUITE useful come election time.
And hopefully the board will continue to see right thru some of the bs cases brought to them. They shouldnt rubber stamp just because dumb-ass siska and company want the heads of coppers chopped off..
We don't like the rules so we'll change them?.hey dickhead more and more cops are leaving on their own and now you want more fired? Over bullshit ?many times made up lies? Fuck it I m telling citizens to call your office instead of 911 for help! I warned on another post ..keep it up..try defending your family without us. Oh it must br aldercreep raise time LIFM
WGN News just said 3 black males are wanted for committing 7 armed robberies on northwest side in a possible grey/silver vehicle.
Thank you channel 9 for reporting exactly what the community alerts read!
Community alerts are prepared to alert the community of specific crimes and to provide a description of the offenders whom the community should be on the lookout for.
Take heed other news reporters - it is not descrimination - its just the facts. If you can report the description of an offender's vehicle, you can report the descrption of the offender.
O/T . . . maybe. An article in the Scumtimes focus on Medical Leave policies in the Department and J-Fled's Medical Integrity unit. It cites decisions by the Police Board, and by example, the case of a female officer:
Quote from Chicago Sun-Times article
"Janice Richard-Kamalu is one of the officers the department accused of being a medical-roll scofflaw. In 2009, she visited a doctor and received a prescription for a sinus infection, testimony showed. She was placed on the department’s medical roll. An investigator videotaped her walking out of her South Side home two days in a row to clear snow from her sidewalk. But she never called a supervisor first, the investigator testified.
After a hearing in February, the Chicago Police Board rejected Weis’ recommendation to fire her. Instead, she was suspended for 10 days for filing false reports. She lied when she told the department she “looked outside to see [her] neighbor snow blowing and thought ‘what a wonderful thing’ because [she] was sick,” the board ruled. She also lied when she said she was visiting a doctor while she was actually clearing snow, the board decided.
But the board decided not to punish her for leaving her home to clear snow without permission. The board does not provide a reasoning for its decisions. But a majority of members apparently agreed with her attorney, Colleen Daly, who argued that the intent of the policy isn’t to have officers call their supervisors for trivial things like shoveling snow or taking their dogs for a walk.
“Let’s remember why she was on the medical roll that day. Sinusitus. A head cold. We’re not talking about a slipped disk. We’re not talking about a physical injury. We are talking about a cold,” Daly said.
Board President Demetrius Carney and another board member dissented, saying they believed Richard-Kamalu deserved a more serious penalty."
Really? Shoveling snow in front of your own residence may result in charges under the Rules and Regulations or Violation of Medical Leave Policy per General Order? Wow! How pimpy is that?
The asshole who went to the Caribbean while on the medical should be fired by the Police Board!
Ald Fioretti is a pretty-boy lightweight and not even much of an attorney - talk to some of the people and/or towns that he's represented.
Taking shots at us is always simple as we're an easy target.
Go buy some more hair dye, blondie.
Knew a guy many years ago who knew I "knew a guy who knew a guy" on the Police Board and asked if I'd reach out to him to prevent his separation. I didn't, cuz this guy was nuts - and most of his beefs were against other coppers (just ask anybody in 019, his last stop). He did find someone, and was saved. So, no, it ain't all legit, and some goofs should get the boot.
Can't say what the majority of the Coppers that were getting fired cases were about. I can say that the idiot that shot up the bowling alley and the idiot that beat the old couple in Niles both should have been shit canned and weren't because of the board.
I do know that both had some whack and kept their jobs after multiple atrocities. These guys, and I am sure at least a few more, should be gone. The current state of the Police Board is a political joke.
Perhaps we should have a on line posting for all city, county, state and federal govt. decesions with rational for punishment or lack of. How about the teachers, the post office the fire dept the water dept........
Why just the police dept, why are we the whipping boys always.
Tracy Siska is the typical 'I got my ass kicked, I got picked on my entire life' type of guy that wants revenge in life, even though the police never treated him poorly.
Hell, he didnt even grow up in the city. Just another lost suburbanite with no clue.
I wonder how it feels to be part of something futile. Oh wait, Im CPD, now I know.
How about the SA's office publishing the reasons Vanecko hasn't been charged?
Maybe that many of trouble making coppers have some deep clout.
No one wants to admit it, but the truth is our police board does not fire like our suburban counterparts. Shit that gets you time with us gets you fired almost everywhere else.
I'm not saying that we should be firing more cops, I'm saying we should be grateful many of us aren't fired who would be in other departments.
Public entities ought to be as open as possible. The extreme secrecy some of them operate under leads to a high degree of cynicism about what they are doing.
Well when they have tool investigators like the idiot that shot himself in 024 some years ago and then went on psych leave , u cant expect more than a screwing of the working police.
Wonder when he will be at the board since he was caught living out of Chicago........
Bottom line if your clouted nothing will ever happen, no clout hard working blue shirt your fucked! Bottom line no clout take your time follow all rules, the boss says "got your back kid" look for the knife!
Trust me, Doty would even fuck THAT up. Everything he's touched over here at the UCPD has turned to shit.
We just hope that when one leaves, the other leaves with him. They've been a complete disaster here,
morale is probably worse here than it was over at
CPD under J-Fled.
Two-thirds of the cases were pretty much BS. Gross generalization, appeal to false common knowledge, emotional roiling of prejudicial waters, it sounds like someone is preparing for a career in tabloid journalism.
Keeeping the heat on cops and other city employees keeps eyes off the corrupt thieving politicians who need the most watching. Thisis nothing new.
The more you pound on cops the less work they will do. Way back when police officers actually rode down alleys at night looking for the potential bad guys. Now I can bet most have their blinders on. Why do any work except for what you have to do. Go to the scene and write a report. Tell the victims how sorry you are for them....and leave. Let them go complain to their useless corrupt Aldercreature that they can't even walk the dog or throw out the garbage without fear of being shot, raped, or mugged. The politicians could care less about anyone but themselves and their family members holding down jobs with the government.
Timekeeper said you can look at a card and almost tell when some will hit the medical. It's so obvious no time medical time. It happens on all watches all the time. Wake-up if it were up to me they would be the first targets. 2 days off 3 medical next month 2 dys off 3 medical and on and on
all medical abusers should be fired, no doubt about it. 3rd watch in 002 has a medial/iod abuser who recently retired, only to have his mantle taken up by a younger abuser. one girl has more time on the medical than she has on the street. dogasses.
MWRD police say
You think that bad explain how some one works 12 years physically and spend 18 years disability and retires with a full pention? Yes 18 years.
And don't get fired. Im not even going to talk about promotion from sgt to chief how that was done.
Does anyone care about the Doty and UofC police updates we get on this blog? Anyone? Bueller?
No one wants to admit it, but the truth is our police board does not fire like our suburban counterparts. Shit that gets you time with us gets you fired almost everywhere else.
I'm not saying that we should be firing more cops, I'm saying we should be grateful many of us aren't fired who would be in other departments.
9/07/2011 09:06:00 AM
The police board has the opportunity to look at all the facts of the case and come to a fair decision, which they almost always do. Just because some story is in slanted or sensationalized in the news media does not mean it is a fireable offense.
who watching the alderman.nobody!
How many alderman live outside the city and get away with it?
dont let the city guilt us and punish us cause a cupple of medical abusers...dont give anything back...does the alderman or rahm?
The police board has the opportunity to look at all the facts of the case and come to a fair decision, which they almost always do. Just because some story is in slanted or sensationalized in the news media does not mean it is a fireable offense.
9/07/2011 09:13:00 PM
You forgot to close with "sarcasm off".
who watching the alderman.nobody!
9/07/2011 09:47:00 PM
Everyone should.
And everyone with a badge should be ticketing the Aldercreatures.
I do it in 44th ward. Tunney deserves every darn ticket he gets.
Does anyone care about the Doty and UofC police updates we get on this blog? Anyone? Bueller?
I do! Doty was a real POS when he ran 006; ran a lot
of good people out of there. I like to read about what
a disaster of a boss he is across the pond. Keep the
updates coming! It's almost as good as reading the
old 'Gallows' about Joe Curtin; Doty is just as dumb,
if not more so!
Bottom line is that we are thankful that the Police Board exists because if it did not many of us who werent clouted would be fired by some boss with no review but the courts...
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