Crime Down 20%
Everything is down. Except that silly homicide number:
Ten days after Mayor Rahm Emanuel made a point to highlight Chicago went 24 hours without a homicide, he confronted a more sobering statistic on Monday: the murder rate is up 53.8 percent from the same period a year ago.
Through mid-day Monday, Chicago had recorded 40 January homicides, compared to just 26 murders during the same period a year ago. The number of shooting incidents remained constant at 140 during both periods.
- McCarthy argued that Chicago’s overall crime rate is down 20 percent over the same period a year ago and that “every single [other] category of crime” is down.
Everything else is down, but the BIG stat is up almost 54%? Something isn't tracking here. And the number of shootings is exactly the same as last year, even though the weather is waaaaaay warmer? Can you smell the bullshit from here?
- He further noted increases in a host of “enforcement actions” by rank-and-file police officers: contact cards filed by police making stops (up 43 percent); administrative notices of violations (up 48 percent); gang dispersals (up 18 percent) and curfew violations (up 25 percent).
Ah, that explains it. CompStat is notorious for cooking the numbers. In fact, we believe that the book we've referenced the past couple of days exposes the number baking for what it is.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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•He further noted increases in a host of “enforcement actions” by rank-and-file police officers: contact cards filed by police making stops (up 43 percent); administrative notices of violations (up 48 percent); gang dispersals (up 18 percent) and curfew violations (up 25 percent
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LIARS FIGURE AND FIGURES LIE!!!!!!!!
Fight the system and you might end up spending 6 days at Jackson Park hospital defending your sanity. Adrian Schoolcraft. Fuck CompStat and the New York ways. Jersey Shore needs to go back home and quit screwing with CPD culture and history. XO's...Really?
Darn, all these extra event numbers and movers and anovs and of course golden contact cards did not stop all these murders taking place!
O h well,',,,,,,,,,another event number please. That should please the bosses.
This City has EXACTLY the Police Department that the Rev.'s and the Libtards have been asking for since 1997, and WOW!!!! you don't like it, well too bad, when all the clowns were bitching and making comments about CPD doing their jobs everyday and how physical we sometimes were and now you got this goof McCarthy making promises about "crushing" gangs, hey asshole your fellow command staff brought us 48 hour rule, witness advisory, lack of seizure ability of vehicles used in violent crimes (Article 36).
SO YOU HAVE EXACTLY THE DE-POLICED DEPARTMENT YOU ASSES ASKED FOR, NOW DEAL WITH IT, AND AL THAT GOES FOR YOU TO.
I call bs...burglaries are up in 016 because there are no officers around, everyone has been detailed to the ghetto.
People are just too tired to call the police knowing that nothing will be done. There are probably more 19P than ever, more lost & found property reports, and more thefts (should be robbery) reports. Multiple shootings count as one. Fewer police to respond to calls.
increases in “enforcement actions” by rank-and-file police officers:
Administrative notices of violations (ANOV) Up 48%
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This Obviously Translates into $$$ for the City!!
So Lets just Fuck with the Police as Much as "We Can"
1) Allow their Numbers to dwindle...
2) Disband Units and shift people where they don't want to go
3) Merge Districts and Area Det.
4) Take away their out of grade pay.
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Copy and Paste and Ad your own Examples!
What can we learn from these numbers?
If we assume that they are anywhere near accurate them the homicides are fixing the cities crime problems as they shoot each other while innocent civilians fear stepping outside the door right?
What do we need a police force for? Just let them have at it then. and if we don't need a police force to protect us, one wonders if we need the alderman and the mayor and the rest of the dog and pony entourage?
Funny thing is, the City's data portal shows that crime reports are down 10.2% year-over-year as of January 22. (The most-recent date available).
http://data.cityofchicago.org/Public-Safety/Crimes-2001-to-present/ijzp-q8t2
ax2 + bx + c = lots of dead guys
contact cards, anov's and dispersals are up??? To the media this is how it goes.
Supt at comstat: your contact card numbas are down commandah.
Commander: yes supt Mcgruff, we will get you more contact cards
later in the day at the "precinct"
commander: ok tact sgts and tac Lt... put your teams in this box and im getting beefed at comstat about contact cards. get the contact card numbers and dispersal numbers up so mcjersey will get off my as*.
Tact Sgt: ok guys, you usually bring in 5 contact cards a night... get a head and give me ten a piece... I dont care how you get them.. run plates, just stop a few hypes or just make up the names and info on them just bring them in.
Tact Team: duuhhhhh, ok boss
Tact Team 3 hours later: well we got our head lets get lunch.
Partner tact guy: duhhhhhhh, ok george..
Cool tact guy: man, that sure was a good lunch.. Lets get these contact cards out of the way. while we sit here at lunch you do 4 cards and Ill do 4 cards.. No we really didnt stop these people, hell these names Im about to write on the cards are completely made up. I dont care, the bosses dont care and mcComstat doesnt care. Ok, i just made up our 8 contact cards, we got our head now lets go park the car for 2 minutes in a dispersal area so the GPS shows us there and call in a bogus dispersal.. Yes, I know the names are made up and im not really dispersing anyone but who cares!! Thats right, NOBODY! They just want to say the numbers are up at comstat and McNathanHotDogsAreWickedAwesome can tell the media contact cards and dispersals are up.. when in reality, nothing is up. The cards are bogus, the names on the cards are bogus, the stops never happened and the dispersal never happened... but my sgt is happy
Partner Tact Guy: duhhhhhhhh, I still dont get it george
Cool Tact guy: What, sorry I was checkin myself out in the mirror. You know, this new hair gel really holds quite well. Im pretty happy about my choice.
Partner Tact Guy: Duuhhhhh, tell me about the war stories again george...
and so on and so on until check off... The end.
No kidding crime is down. There is 2,000 less police taking reports. When the police arrive after the long back log the victim is gone. 19-B! DUH!!!
That's because the Police Department is down 20%!!!!
Compstat = Voodoo Policing!
"24 hours without a shooting!"
"Five days without a homicide!"
"Yah, murders are up but overall crime is down!" (Typical bullshit Chicago style political semantics)
See how they run!
Compstat = The scene in the movie "The Good, The Bad & The Ugly" where Clint Eastwood kicks the lid off the coffin to reveal the silently laughing, empty-eyed grim grinner inside.
"...'Cause there ain't nothin' there..."
Amusing observations? We got plenty but here are a few:
Is the revelation that Compstat is Voodoo Policing a knife between the shoulder blades of G-mac's itinerant police c.e.o. career aspirations? A knife wielded by former N.Y.P.D. insiders well versed in the fuckery that is Compstat?
Why does the former feeb aka Lemon-Head feel compelled to talk about HIS quibbles regarding how G-mac is cooking the crime stat books? Pot sure is shit-talking Kettle!
On that same note, the Lemon-Head sure sounds like he's auditioning for another shot. That condo MUST REALLY be fuckin' his ass UP!
Gee... A (another) vindictive unevolved prick wants to run CPD?
The news for G8/NATO is all bad...
Watch as a BUNCH of exempts put in papers to run away from being hit with the shit-stick. G-Mac included... They all have plans and aspirations that don't include being blamed for a disaster.
Heh... Not even Rahm's $18 million is enough for a smarter idiot to be in front of THOSE cannons.
Watch for some young, stupid and ambitious alderfool/rev'run sponsored gold star to get tagged with an "interim stupidintendent" label for the express purpose of being scapegoated.
Shades of Michael Scott?
You can only spin this bullshit for so long before the public starts looking at you side ways. The Racoon is nothing but a lying con man right out of Washington DC. Mc Carthy plays his NYC ComStat bullshit and enjoys getting paid the big bucks to say everything is ok. Fuck both of these lying hypocrites.
Crime down 20% sure it is just ask the Morgue
OT- but what the hell happened at California and 65th with a teen taking a taser away from a PO and then using it on him? What the fuck is that about? Someone please tell the real story. If true, someone needs a new line of work.
The Big Lie vs The REAL TRUTH. The Racoon is trying to put a spin on the 50%+ increase in homicides for January. The more he talks the more everyone can now see what a crooked connivng bastard he really is. Can't hide all those bodies Mr. Racoon Eyes. Wake up Chicago. Can't wait to watch the Racoon and the Big Apple Slice dancing around the disaster coming in May. Should be a real treat.
How can all crimes be down when just 3 months ago they were touting that every crime was down execpt that Auto Thefts were up?
But murders up 50%!!
1/31/2012 12:59:00 AM
too funny.sad thing is that its true!
Fuck Rahm and Mcdummy.. Bullshit
So Lets just Fuck with the Police as Much as "We Can"
1) Allow their Numbers to dwindle...
2) Disband Units and shift people where they don't want to go
3) Merge Districts and Area Det.
4) Take away their out of grade pay.
5) Invite anarchist to town.
6) Disregard collective bargaining rights.
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Copy and Paste and Ad your own Examples!
Who are these hairgels doing the "increased enforcement???? I think if there were any numbers that were super easy to manipulate/lie on, it would be the inside numbers. So we add a few thousand contact cards to the mix. Who's gonna know... the hard hitting investigative reporter Frank "J-Pal" Main.hahahahaha
OT- but what the hell happened at California and 65th with a teen taking a taser away from a PO and then using it on him? What the fuck is that about? Someone please tell the real story. If true, someone needs a new line of work.
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STFU!!!! There is no way you are the police you F'ing troll. Go occupy your mom's basement. Sissy. And, no , Jellybean...it wasn't me...I just know a useless troll when I see one. Point yourself out to me come May you Jag-off.
Some idiot said...Funny thing is, the City's data portal shows that crime reports are down 10.2% year-over-year as of January 22. (The most-recent date available).
http://data.cityofchicago.org/Public-Safety/Crimes-2001-to-present/ijzp-q8t2
Some smart guy said... You idiot!!Of course crime reports are down.
#1. If response times are up and victim apathy kicks in. Citizens are now resigned to the fact of the futility of making a report.
#2. If you have LESS police you will have less police reports. Plain and simple. Who is gonna take all these reports? When nobody comes when citizens call are you gonna report your crime? Are you gonna wait?
Now shut up jagoff and quit drinking the kool-aide!! Look at the gurnies piled up to the ceiling because of Daley, J-Fled , Ilana Rosenpig, Rahm and McTowndrunk.
For Pete's sake does Rahm and his crew drink their own urine? How can they pass thia crap along. And how can people believe it?
Let's see...
I don't make traffic stops like I used to.
I don't make street stops like I used to.
I don't hunt for bad guys like I used to.
Hmm Sure the crime numbers are probably down. And this is what they call being successful. OMG this city is so screwed.
I am so ashamed to say I live let alone work here. yea yea I know....all you brown nosing pukes will complain about my spelling and say I am ungreatful! BARF!
OT- but what the hell happened at California and 65th with a teen taking a taser away from a PO and then using it on him? What the fuck is that about? Someone please tell the real story. If true, someone needs a new line of work
And I know it could never happen to you because your the real police. If you weren't there don't be a monday night quarterback
Padding those 'enforcement actions' are gonna be getting more than a handful of p.o.'s jammed up in the very near future. Time management, supervisors logs and GPS will be the undoing of plenty of people. Be able to justify your actions and whereabouts AND DO NOT GET CAUGHT UP LYING WHEN THE THE TIME COMES TO PUT IT ON PAPER. The numbers game is about to come full circle and bite some people in their asses. Don't fall for the boss' threats and demands for numbers. They will disavow any knowledge of it.
You heard it here first.
I am comforted. It is good to know that my shit won't get stolen and it will be here for my shortie after I get smoked. I feel all fuzzy inside.
Less reports means less crime in the stats. Have you ever walked in off the street and tried to make a report at a district desk? You are treated like shit and learn to never return, but that is how the lazy, ignorant fucks at the desk want you to react.
Compstat we know is total BS. The XO change however doesn't bother me one bit. So the Lts & Sgts have more responsibilities. So What. It does not affect us P/Os. Oh, maybe unless you work the desk, but then again thats your choice. You don't have to do a desk Sgts job because it no longer exist thats the DSS job.
Hey 12:59am. You are a stroke. You are the guy that has an arrest that he coudn't talk the victim out of signing a complaint and it's near the end of your tour. So what do you do dog ass? You ask for a Tact Tm. Blow Me Asswipe.
You need to take a look at the problem, address the issues come up with a plan and execute the plan......yeah, how's that working out goof.
Can anyone publish count information ie: Number per district, male vs female, ages, race, etc. Does the media suffer from too much political correctness?
What about battery to PO? Thought those were way up. I've been in that victim box a few times this year. WTF
contact cards, anov's and dispersals are up??? To the media this is how it goes.
Supt at comstat: your contact card numbas are down commandah.
Commander: yes supt Mcgruff, we will get you more contact cards
later in the day at the "precinct"
commander: ok tact sgts and tac Lt... put your teams in this box and im getting beefed at comstat about contact cards. get the contact card numbers and dispersal numbers up so mcjersey will get off my as*.
Tact Sgt: ok guys, you usually bring in 5 contact cards a night... get a head and give me ten a piece... I dont care how you get them.. run plates, just stop a few hypes or just make up the names and info on them just bring them in.
Tact Team: duuhhhhh, ok boss
Tact Team 3 hours later: well we got our head lets get lunch.
Partner tact guy: duhhhhhhh, ok george..
Cool tact guy: man, that sure was a good lunch.. Lets get these contact cards out of the way. while we sit here at lunch you do 4 cards and Ill do 4 cards.. No we really didnt stop these people, hell these names Im about to write on the cards are completely made up. I dont care, the bosses dont care and mcComstat doesnt care. Ok, i just made up our 8 contact cards, we got our head now lets go park the car for 2 minutes in a dispersal area so the GPS shows us there and call in a bogus dispersal.. Yes, I know the names are made up and im not really dispersing anyone but who cares!! Thats right, NOBODY! They just want to say the numbers are up at comstat and McNathanHotDogsAreWickedAwesome can tell the media contact cards and dispersals are up.. when in reality, nothing is up. The cards are bogus, the names on the cards are bogus, the stops never happened and the dispersal never happened... but my sgt is happy
Partner Tact Guy: duhhhhhhhh, I still dont get it george
Cool Tact guy: What, sorry I was checkin myself out in the mirror. You know, this new hair gel really holds quite well. Im pretty happy about my choice.
Partner Tact Guy: Duuhhhhh, tell me about the war stories again george...
and so on and so on until check off... The end.
1/31/2012 12:59:00 AM
Well... That's kind of what has been happening, without the sarcasm of course...
Thing is, the cars on tact that don't bring in the heads are just bringing in a ton of contact cards and just letting the guys who do bring in heads carry the team.
damn the percentages,,,,,lets just use raw numbers to compare month to month......and homicide for January was at 40 last week.....are they holding over the rest to be counted in Feb.
"There are lies. There are damn lies. And then there are statistics." Mark Twain.
Keep writing the TSSS cards. Write the compliance mover.
DO NOT WRITE PARKERS.
DO NOT WRITE MOVING VIOLATIONS.
STOP WRITING ANOVS.
We received a 1% raise!!!! The alderShits are getting TWICE what we do!!!
STOP GENERATING REVENUE FOR THE CITY THAT IS FUCKING YOU.
You get a job; do the paper, no matter what! Get those crime stats up to where they SHOULD be!!
We must stick together!
The real truth is when you leave your house to go to work, the store, school, currency exchange, or maybe the neighborhood bar. Will you get there in one piece? Will you make it back home with all your property? Will some creep break into your home and steal all your nice stuff? Maybe you won't be victimized depending where you live. But even that doesn't hold up any more. All of these politicians and their minions have cars and protection. They don't worry about getting mugged or shot. They can still their bogus numbers up their rancid assholes!
Jan homicides are actually up 67%.
Looks like more fun with numbers from the CPD higher ups. When will they learn that us private citizens aren't so stupid as to believe the spew thats coming from their mouths? Just be honest with us.
One more thing:
Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is important, but what they conceal is vital.
Dam were good-->pat self on back
These stats can be twisted and manipulated many different ways. Which way do you think Rahm and McPuppet are going to spin them? Clearly that's what's at play here.
Nothing to see here sheeple move along.
How can the overall crime numbers be down yet homicides have increased? Something's rotten in Denmark!
Dear Scc: I fully believe that part of the numbers drop, if it is a true drop, it only on paper. The crimes are happening, but the police are not being called, which there is always some that don't call, and also they are calling but they are leaving by the time we get there, or they just don't call because they have in the past and know that it's going to take forever, or "the police don't do anything anyway so why bother". This started before the new stupe took his office. If a tree falls down in a forest and no one hears it, did it make a sound?
gangs made up for that 1 day without a murder
must be that New XO rank , killing all the crime they can , but murders don't go away
Reading these threads makes me believe it is time for Concealed Carry in Illinois.
Cops don't want to do their jobs due to poor or non-existent leadership (Not an indictment on you - I see the idiocy in leadership), the leadership can't do their job because most are inept "clout people" and the mayor and supporting community leaders are anti-police.
No one is really looking at safety and keeping things secure. If they are, it is only lip-service or from someone that is well-intentioned and sincere, but too far down the totem pole to be effective.
Bottom line is when you come to Chicago, you better have your own protection.
Or, do what more and more are doing - staying out of Chicago and spending their money elsewhere.
Crime is NOT down in Chicago, it may be under-reported.
Not a LEO, JAFO
It must be that criminals are killing each other. Example: career burglar has an arguement with a career strong armed robber and they end up killing each other. Sure it's one more murder, but statistically armed robberies will decrease there will be 2 less people to commit them.
CRIME IS NOT DOWN. SCC you have to stop acknowledging their claims as factual. The public needs to know that reported crime is down, not actual crime. If crime was truly down, the districts wouldn't be in a backlog for calls for service every day; cars wouldn't be down taking reports and making notification while running from job to job. Crime reports are down, not crime. Less police officers to take a report and a society numbed into tolerating a certain level of criminal activity as normal based on their inability to report it and have it investigated or at least dealt with by the police. CRIME IS NOT DOWN. Crime reporting is down. That's why there are Federal investigations into compstat and the manipulation of crime statistics for political favor.
I am sure victims really care that crime is down!
crime is down because the cop are tied down on crappy missions and get event numbers, so they cant make dope pinches or challenge shitheads gang member hang out so of coarse crime is down..these mutts can run around doing what ever they want and their still committing crimes, i know most cops know that but if your a civilian dont believe these fake stats,just think is drug usage down no, is membership in gangs down no,do you feel safe walking the street of chicago?
money ball mccarthy!
lets run this idiot out town coppers need to write reports for everything they can..
we need alderman that arent corrupt..beals hates police..
Fudging crime numbers was going on in the 1980s when I was around. Nothing has changed. Your beat sgt. always had to "approve" your reports and had you rewrite them to a downgrade crime. This all came out of the bosses above. The court ASAs reduce charges in court to get plea agreements. Nothing has changed.
Saw Ret. Lt. Bobby Angonne on tv tonight bitching about doctors handing out too many disabled parking passes. Still wearing his wig and sunglasses.
when did a contact card make arrest or prevent a crime. mutts dont care about being arrested it only a speed bump for them their gonna be out in a cupple hours and if its a felony and their convicted prison are over crowded their gonna be out in no time. beside who want to arrest these mutt when judges an jury let them off an they sue you..
rahm is just looking to move up the latter in the goverment and mccarthy is his higher hand here to put up stat for the time being in office that cant be maintained with the amount of police that we have and lack of support by politicians.
so mccarthy and rahm will scheme and do anything to get coppers to do their bidding so guys dont sell yourself cheap hold out,these guys need us were the blueline remember that.
everyone know these temporary scheme to bring crime down that wont last so these guys can be promote on your sweat and blood..
rahm for president..lol
Kelly Bans Cops From Wearing NYPD Gear Without Prior Approval
NYPD Commissioner Ray Kelly has ordered all cops to stop wearing clothes emblazoned with the department logo or shield unless it's part of their uniform ...
Kelly’s order, issued Jan. 19, says all officers are "prohibited" from “wearing any item of apparel which contains a department logo or shield or in any way identifies wearer with the New York City Police Department unless approved by the Uniform and Equipment Review Committee prior to being worn by a member of the service, uniformed or civilian, on or off duty.”
"A source said the edict is unusual, given that tourists can easily purchase such items in stores and readily wear them while cops can't."
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/
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Uh-oh! Expect McPuppet to follow suit shortly to show his old boss he's still a New Yorker at heart!
That's because the Police Department is down 20%!!!!
1/31/2012 01:12:00 AM
LOLoLOL!!! Too funny!! But true!
Now shut up jagoff and quit drinking the kool-aide!! Look at the gurnies piled up to the ceiling because of Daley, J-Fled , Ilana Rosenpig, Rahm and McTowndrunk.
1/31/2012 08:14:00 AM
McTowndrunk. LOLOL!!! I am loving these nickname for the superintendo. Thanks for the laughs. I needed that
With all police activity up, shootings the same as last year this time, yet more homicides, that leaves only one conclusion: the shooters are getting to be better shots?
CRIME IS NOT DOWN. SCC you have to stop acknowledging their claims as factual. The public needs to know that reported crime is down, not actual crime. If crime was truly down, the districts wouldn't be in a backlog for calls for service every day; cars wouldn't be down taking reports and making notification while running from job to job. Crime reports are down, not crime. Less police officers to take a report and a society numbed into tolerating a certain level of criminal activity as normal based on their inability to report it and have it investigated or at least dealt with by the police. CRIME IS NOT DOWN. Crime reporting is down. That's why there are Federal investigations into compstat and the manipulation of crime statistics for political favor.
1/31/2012 03:18:00 PM
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Are you clueless? Have you never once read the blog before?
You can't truly believe SCC acknowledges the City's claims of crime statistics, ANY crime statistics, are valid.
Never mind. You don't need to respond; you ARE clueless.
Supposedly at CompStat meetings, he says they are not worried or interested in numbers. Yet that is all we hear about, get numbers. maybe crime is down but you want to talk about a real bunch of BS, it is the increased productivity they are claiming to have. Ask NYPD how all this emphasis on numbers is working out for them.
Another 95 guns off the street in 022 today
Just remember every job you blow off, every hand waver you drive past and every person you talk out of a report contributes to crime going down.
Sorry boss from a street coppers, Blue shirts viewpoint sir crime is UP! We are extremely short,and with the goofs in Springfield especially Cullerton threatening to screw with police and firefighters pensions the upcoming summits could be the "perfect storm," We are also the 99% sworn to protect,but promised our PENSIONS!
Hey 12:59am. You are a stroke. You are the guy that has an arrest that he coudn't talk the victim out of signing a complaint and it's near the end of your tour. So what do you do dog ass? You ask for a Tact Tm. Blow Me Asswipe.
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hahahah, yeah ok geek. Listen SON, Im currently on a tact team. Ive been on a tact team for the past 16 years and would have it no other way. I still bring in my "one for the company" right off the bat and get one for me for court. So yes, I know the system pretty damn well. I know all the short cuts kids make these days to get "activity". Its part of the game. I think someone(you) needs to lighten up a little(alot) bit and have what we call a .... SENSE OF HUMOR! Listen, being on tact is not the end all be all of the chicago police department. Its still a good gig but lighten the fu*k up pud boy. Now go iron your jeans, get your tight shirt and designer sun glasses and go look good for the dollies after you get your head... and make up your 5 contact cards!
Fuck this, we do good work, and are always bashed in the media. When crime goes up we get blamed. When crime goes down brass takes our glory. On the street eveymotherfuvkingday.
I don't want no credit, but just a little respect when it comes to negotiations and retirement.
To all you hard chargers out there:
Don't fudge your activity just to make the bosses happy.
I've heard that the department is looking into activity and would love to jam up some coppers for falsifying it.
Remember McNutty and Rahm do not have your back. They will leave you swinging in the breeze.
The orders are changing everyday. It not only effects Lt. and sgt. They simply write the order with Po job to include the now desk sgt. duties.
One way, till it effects you and it will, sooner than later.
Another 95 guns off the street in 022 today
1/31/2012 11:01:00 PM
Yeah, but it was from an old mans house who committed suicide on 102nd and california. Doesnt count. No cb, no credit.
Anonymous said...
Saw Ret. Lt. Bobby Angonne on tv tonight bitching about doctors handing out too many disabled parking passes. Still wearing his wig and sunglasses.
1/31/2012 06:49:00 PM
Many planes heading Midway. We haven't forgotten.
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