So Who is the Real Target?
Here's a good take on the new XO program:
- I am surprised nobody has commented on the all too obvious: They are not getting rid of the rank of Captain. They are getting rid of the rank of Commander!
The XO will be running the Districts and Units soon enough. They will do this through attrition or forcing the current Commanders to retire. Lieutenants will run the Watch with Sergeants and the Sergeants will be in charge when the Lieutenant is off.
Now most will think, "Good, fuck 'em". That is shortsighted, though, unless you came on the job to work harder for less money. This whole shake up equates to the Police Department taking a huge pay cut with less chance of promotion. Now are you paying attention young guy?
This is a naked end run around our Union. Nothing new for the Mayor.
We understand they are making less promotable spots. The last time they made detectives was 4 years ago and a small class of sergeants was 2 or more years ago. Lieutenants, same thing. Opportunities are not going to be there in the future.
We also assumed that the Department was making the Captain/XO spot a crappy job so as to force the Captains out and eliminate the spot again. But eliminating the Commander spot makes more sense after reading the above comment. We can't really disagree with either move as the entire Department is top-heavy far beyond need. It's the expecting everyone else to take on more responsibility without compensation and in violation of the contract that grates on everyone who is paying attention.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
163 Comments:
Well captains werent really doing anything for the amount of money they were being paid. Going to roll call and apprving arrest reports was highway robbery.
Unfortunately promotions will be harder to come by but having layers of do nothings making six figures is the biggest injustice.
My XO sounds so sad now. They "fucked" him. Reap what you sow, bitch! You went from being a watch commander to be the commander's secretary/ civilian station manager. Dummy!
With less than a one percent chance of getting promoted legit (with merit, secret study groups and people with the answers) does it even matter? There will be people that scored under 150 on the last Sgt test that will never be promoted. Myself being one of them. Dont get me wrong I wouldnt turn it down. But with the state of things now I cant wait to get the fuck out of this department.
If this is true, then why are some district commanders trying so hard to make these changes work? Is it just that they are clueless? Also, some of the commanders are young and won't be retiring soon. So how do they get rid of them?
Point well Taken.
However, XO as we're aware stands for Executive Officer. In the military my XO or 2nd in command dealt more hands on with enlisted personnel and other Admin. issues within the squadron. We always had a CO.
That being said, if they replace each Dist. Cmdr. one at a time thru retirement etc. those XO's become Cmdrs just by mere definition.
XO or Executive Officer always has the reference to that of 2nd of command which brings us back around "full circle" that it's the Capt/XO that would be phased out.
Commander? Never! That's the aldercreatures pick, and all these decisions are based on the political angle as the most important consideration. Even when the money is the political factor. Remember, all these decisions are based on politics, not what's right for the city. Do enjoy your democracy comrades....
Chances of getting promoted are slim to none. And they just got a lot slimmer.
The next move is to stagnant our wages and take away our benefits. It won't take long before we're at the bottom of the working class. McDonald's average pay is around ten dollars an hour. They'll move up and we'll stay the same.
Our only hope with our curent postion is to start voting all current Alderman, State Officials and the Mayor out of Office.
The goal is to make us a bunch of subsevent amateons who have no thoughts of are own and do what the Mayor wants. Their gutting the department of all senior leaders and forcing tenured employees to retire, with policy and work rule changes. Very soon no one will even know what's going on or how to do their job. Which you can see that with the XO order. All the orders coming out appear to be written by none experienced personnel and have been written very vague. Leaving orders open to interpretation. Which fits their agenda and overall goal to run us at will.
How about advanced Night Stick / Batton training. Battery to law enforcement is up. Protesting is up. The G8 is coming and only now they think we need additional training. We should have on going training every year. How about everyone goes for two weeks every year for training. In life everything is priorities, with everything we buy do, school, house, car and all others. We are the departments last priority. We are the step kid they forgot about.
Last I checked; Captains are removed from field units with watch commanders office. Al No Goodie, 001. Worst Captain ever. Who promoted him to Captain??????
Now most will think, "Good, fuck 'em". That is shortsighted, though, unless you came on the job to work harder for less money. This whole shake up equates to the Police Department taking a huge pay cut with less chance of promotion. Now are you paying attention young guy?
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That's all fine and dandy, but without a call or clout, there is no promotion anyway. So fuck em' is right. I came on the job thinking it was all legit when I was a young guy. There is a new mayor that is culling the old clout and the big paychecks. My heart is bleeding a river because my chance to be a high payed boss has been lowered from none to zero
Was at a recent Law Enforcement conference, many Captains from across the nation. All of them were pretty much operational as our Commander equivalent, they ran districts/precints and units. Should be that way here. Promotional opportunities will still be available, just to Captain as opposed to Commander. If this is yhe eventual goal, I think it would be a good thing.
No, the real targets are the Lts and sgts....the commanders already r in rahms pocket....they have always jumped when asked.
Many of us have talked about this already. It sounds like eventually XO's will be the "district commander", in order to save the city money (both in salary and pension).
But what are they going to do about the exempt ranks higher than cmdr?
If the taxpayers think this will save them money, they are wrong. They will find more flower pots or wrought iron fences to put up.
You see, taxes never go down, only up. The politicians still haven't taken a hit on their salary in 'these hard times'. Where is there 'skin in the game'? Oh yeah, the pay increase they gave themselves was only 6%.
This is not good. You have to have someone running the ship. I suppose this leaves the Deputy Chief in charge of the District the? A little removed I'd say.
The XO where I work is already trying to push off his duties on the DSS. Sorry dick weed, me doing your job will be last on my to do list. Guess who has to answer for the shotty work at Compstat? Not Me!!!
I might actually have to attend one of those meetings just to see you stumble and bumble around the microphone. Why don't you tell them, "well I instructed my DSS to do it, but he didn't have time"
I will try to find the article, but I read somewhere that McDrunk said that police depts. are evolving from being run like para-military organizations to being run more like businesses. I'll try to find the link...I just read it in the last couple of days.
I said it before, they are eliminated the position of Commmander for most districts. A Commander will only be at the head of very important units/districts just like it is in New York.
The goal is to make us a bunch of subsevent amateons who have no thoughts of are own and do what the Mayor wants.
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What's a subsevent amateon?????
WTF?
From the Trib:
December 05, 2011|By Naomi Nix, Chicago Tribune reporter
Chicago police Superintendent Garry McCarthy on Monday said moving officers from specialized police units and desk jobs to patrol duties was part of a strategy to shift from a top-down structure in the department.
"We are running police departments more like a business. ... With that comes organizational change," McCarthy, who took over as superintendent in May after the election of Mayor Rahm Emanuel, said in a speech to the City Club of Chicago.
The biggest part of the police buget goes to the patrolman . We can expect changes also ,in an effort to reduce operational cost . These cost saving plans have been in the works well before the new superintendent had arrived.
The changes to command does not effect the beat cop one bit. We will still do are jobs and answer the calls that are never ending. Each and every rank will have to fight their own battle on this one. Things will stay status quo until after the G-8 /NATO protest ends. I fully expect the reduction in tactical officers to be reduced and be place on the watch. More preasure on the watches to bring in revenue by way of anov's, caps will be gone and inside p.o.'s to be replaced by less paying civilians with no benefits. The new inspectors have been put in place in order to give out suspension time , not only to p.o's but also their supervisors. This will save the city a ton on paycheck reduction. These are just a few things I can think of, I fully expect a lot worse for the p.o. In the future .
OT a bit:
I would like to know how many of those killed last year had I.R. numbers......real taxpayers don't care because the murder rate doesn't affect them, but the bottom dollar does.
The problem is that more ghetto rats vote than taxpayers--and that's who the politicians cater to. Danny Davis, Get out the Vote, all that crap mobilizes the ghetto rats to vote.
I bet a higher percentage of ghetto rats vote than coppers. Sad.
I just got off the shoe phone with Agent 86. He says this is a plot by C.H.A.O.S
Did the SS thing yesterday.....it's impossible to do it all....what a mess
Wrong...... Getting rid of Captains. The XOs that were made inspectors are all close to retirement. Once the XOs retire there will be no more XOs/Capts..... A rank they bought back only to promote political hacks
Anything that makes Lucy retire is a good thing.
With less than a one percent chance of getting promoted legit (with merit, secret study groups and people with the answers) does it even matter? There will be people that scored under 150 on the last Sgt test that will never be promoted. Myself being one of them. Dont get me wrong I wouldnt turn it down. But with the state of things now I cant wait to get the fuck out of this department.
1/10/2012 12:24:00 AM
I couldn't agree more. I took the detective's exam over 8 years ago and scored high enough to receive a number in the mid 200's and still have not been promoted. Hell, if you have less than 10 years on this job I don't think you've even had the chance to take a promotional exam. The CPD is a fucking joke. Anyone who signs up for this shit now is softer than baby shit unless they're just looking for a steady paycheck and don't mind having a shitty, dead end job. All I want to do now is coast into retirement and get the fuck out of this shithole. If only I could have glimpsed the future before I signed up for this shit I would have stayed in school and chosen a different career path. What a disappointment this job has turned out to be.
1st watch in 001st dist. has nobody higher in rank than sergeant.
All you young chargers welcome to the REAL world, First got screwed at TRUE and MSF, And now the Captians, promises made NONE kept. Who's going to join the next special unit (Jerry's kids). The next round of promotions are not going to be testable but MERIT pure and simple 100%. Contract yeah right I've been told by several bosses (Not just Police Dept.) the city wants free reign over all departments, Police, Fire, Streets & Sands, Water etc. the days of being pro-union democrats are over. No more promotions by testing all merit. If Rahm can't control you your out!
Also, some of the commanders are young and won't be retiring soon. So how do they get rid of them?
1/10/2012 12:36:00 AM
Are you kidding me? Ever hear of demotion and reassignment?
All the XOs dont care about being lied too...they feel honored to have been picked....they will play the game in order to get that gold star...
I don't believe they are trying to get rid of the Commanders. Think about it, the XO's are still protected by the Captains union. Thus they still get overtime. The XO's in time will make this work for them where they will be making enough overtime to be making more than the Commander. You had Lt.'s that were making more than a Commander because of their ot. But I do believe this is some kind of master plan to even further reduce future promotions..
See... I told you guys n gals over 8 years ago. Go back to school or start a business and move on. I am so glad I did. I give a flying crap what they do anymore. Im almost to my 20 and I will be long gone.
If you reference the history of the Chicago Police Dept., you will find that when they were on a Precinct system, one (1) captain was in charge of the Precinct and he was appointed by the Ward Boss. This era is actually called the Political Era of American Policing. Some of the older stations, such as 023 actually still had that precinct designation in the concrete. Add to this the Booze Allen Study when Daley first took office and you can see that the rank of Captain and Commander can easily be flipped or one can be eliminated. Let's not start to think like some of the people we police and forget that things have origins and beginings. In the 1990's this Dept survived with the virtual elimination of Captains and it can survive without commanders. Eliminating Commanders would save millions of dollars in Gold Braid Pensions which for too long have been patronage golden parachutes for the clouted.
I like being a blue shirt. No worries or cares. Put that white shirt on or become a det. and the job sems to go to hell. As a lowly blue shirt I make about 80 grand just to drive about and answer my calls. Easy livin.
How many big shots have been culled at 35th.
Hey 12:20 if captains didn't do anything, why all the screaming about doing the WC job without getting paid??? There is/was plenty more to do with the WC position (it is not a rank) than going to roll call and approving arrest reports....
You are right on with this. They are definitely phasing out a rank with this move. It also could be phasing out Lt's, if Sgt's can do the job when Lt's are off then why will they even need to pay for them?
$5 million a year savings doing away with the commanders position.
Nagode from 001, was in 024 as a PO, then as a sgt, then left to be lt in 001. Now look at him. His father was a boss in the past. He is climbing the clout ladder.
Straight from the superintendent's orifice: "There will absolutely be no promotional tests this year."
You are crazy if you think they are going to eliminate any commanders or higher, they haven't yet. XO is executive officer, he/she executes the orders given by the CO, commanding officer (commander). "Whaddya want, a free lesson in police work?"
Malone
Remember if you have to work the desk take your lunch away from it! you do not get paid for lunch so don't sit there! From a inside do nothing.
Aldermans pick huh....the last 4 commanders in 022 were definately not the aldermans pick....and whem Matt O'Shea approached McNumnuts about his idea for the new Commander he was told his input was not necessary.
With Top Cat Carutters' as the reining Commander in the District with the most shootings & homicides, we can see how effective GMac's CompStuff side show really is.
The heaviest of the clouted will remain regardless of what GMac touts. No reform on his end, all b.s. and lies.
I think GMac was a able to blow up the (Department) ship that JFed sunk.
He's proven himself to be just as, if not more neurotic than JFed.
Rahm will use the Department as the distraction from the seriousness of all the financial troubles of this City.
Who knows when GMac will get his due.
I'm certainly surprised FOP hasn't taken the "No Confidence" vote yet. Are we waiting to see that there won't be any salary negotiations in our Contract first ?
Fox Chicago News
Bob Sirott's One More Thing About a Good Chicago Cop
Updated: Monday, 09 Jan 2012, 10:03 PM CST
Published : Monday, 09 Jan 2012, 8:13 PM CST
By Bob Sirott, FOX Chicago News
Chicago - One more thing, about a few questions that need to be answered. Last week two Chicago men were charged in the Dec. 29 murder of a Chicago police officer.
Clifton Lewis, an eight-year police veteran, was off-duty, working as a security guard when he was shot several times during a West Side convenience store robbery.
Tyrone Clay, 29, and Edgardo Colon, 34, were charged with murder while in commission of an armed robbery, and first-degree murder of a peace officer. Colon has a criminal record dating back to 1997. He was convicted of unlawful use of a weapon, burglary, obstruction of justice, and the manufacture and delivery of cannabis. Four years ago, he was sentenced to six years in prison for using a firearm during a home invasion. But when he was out on parole when he was arrested last week.
Clay was convicted in 2004 of unlawful use of a weapon but received probation. When he violated that probation twice he was sentenced to two-and-a-half years in prison. Then last year he was arrested for cannabis possession but received only six months conditional discharge for that.
Conditional discharge, probation, parole.
Why were these men continually and quickly put back on the streets?
How do the judges explain it?
Why does this happen so often?
As I said: Questions that need to be answered.
We have to talk more about this. We owe to the memory of a good Chicago cop.
I agree. The only real issue is the taking on of more duties without getting more money.
When the politicians take away the "candy" to hand out to clout babies on the dept. what incentive is there for anyone to do any work. We all thought Daley used a scalpel to gut this dept. Now we have Racoon Eyes with his sledge hammer.
With the new system, they can eliminate lieutenants also.
I don’t know where you work and I’m sorry if you’ve had a bad experience, but here is a little insight into being a captain W/C. Theoretically, on any given watch there are 20% who will do their work to their best ability, regardless of bosses or other outside factors because of integrity and strong work ethic. 10% will make every effort to do nothing for the opposite reasons. That leaves 70% who given proper direction, motivation, and attention will be brought up to the 20% or without it slide towards to the 10%. I have to know each of these officers, what motivates them and their strengths and weaknesses. I have had to guide supervisors to step out of their own comfort zones and motivate officers that they would have avoided in the past. We have to deal with people who have different work ethics than us and to understand that everyone is not like us. We find strengths (sometimes difficult) whether it be traffic, guns, or sometimes people just like to answer calls and write reports. If they take that responsibility on with pride that’s fine with me. I know when their children are due to be born, when they are getting divorced, married or had a bad breakup. These factors all have to be considered before counseling them for activity etc… because I have found that my words have an enormous impact on them. I have to be a buffer between them and the often ridiculous mandates that come down from above. I have to make decisions on manpower while ensuring that time off-furlough requests are met to the best of my ability. When officers make mistakes we fix them before it goes beyond watch level. We make sure that awards are written, CR’s are handled and equipment is in the best working order that this department will allow. This I has turned out to be an honor to be able to experience a watch that has become the 90% .
I’m sure that most of you already know this and those who don’t will find out soon enough. BTW the 10%’rs that love to write negatively on this blog , we know who you are, your very transparent.
Anonymous said...
Chances of getting promoted are slim to none. And they just got a lot slimmer.
The next move is to stagnant our wages and take away our benefits. It won't take long before we're at the bottom of the working class. McDonald's average pay is around ten dollars an hour. They'll move up and we'll stay the same.
Our only hope with our curent postion is to start voting all current Alderman, State Officials and the Mayor out of Office.
1/10/2012 12:48:00 AM
We have been saying this forever...
Captains like Commanders are APPOINTED, plain and simple. Their TRUE career service rank should br Lieutenant, a rank they tested for. As appointees the carrot is consistenly dangled in front of them, if they do not comply, they may lose their captain status. True Captains like TOM HUGHES would never have gone for any of this bullsh**. The Department is in the toilet bowl on a downward spiral. We NEED hierarchy such as the military. We do not need the gross numbers of the "somebody's boy" bosses. A Sergeant and Lieutenant cannot run a district. Commanders are needed, real captains follow and then lt's and sgt's. It's the trickle down effect. We are suppose to reflect a military command chain, hence a "para-military" organization. The department should not gamble with officers lives by restructuring the ranks, just cut the WORTHLESS fat. 35th, Units, political sronies, etc... Let those that do the WORK in the trenches keep doing their job, without being stonewalled or made to turn 180 degrees everytime a new "puppet" steps into the chair. Good policemen will always survive changes. Morale is another story. As George S. Patton stated; "Did you ever see a FEW policemen hanldle a crowd!" The good general was complimenting us on how are presence demanded RESPECT and FEAR! We can become that again, only with TRUE LEADERSHIP. Bye Bye McJersey, see ya!!!!!!!!!!!!
I still say FUCK'EM!
Does that mean the 4th watch sgt at Mass Transit will now ask Eddie to promote him to XO.
30 % of all sgt. and lts are merit
100 % of captains and exempt command staff are merit . Over 75 % of captains and exempts were merit sgt and lt. Who cares if they cut supervisors . Do your job as a Police Officer , go to court twice a week . McCarthy should require sgts to issue traffic tickets . Why aren't XO , Lt , Sgt required to swipe in and out .
Where are the new inspectors ?
Off topic:
Why is Fop playing games with members who are running for political seats? I'm not saying we need to blindly endorse them, but how about you give them the benefit of the doubt? Have them come in to request endorsement, but for chrissakes - these are people who have our pension in mind.
The only thing I can imagine is that good ole Mikey has ambitions higher than fop one day and is willing to sell out his own to make that happen.
Our XO has already delegated all of his responsibilities back to the individual watches and basically works off the blackberry. Why the fuck do we need him again?
McCarthy deserves a big applause for reassigning officers to Fugitive apprehension unit .The 2 officers helped arrest killer of Officer Lewis .
The biggest mistake they made was getting rid if the desk Sgt. Granted, some were assholes but most knew their shit and caught alot of mistakes before they hit the WC que. Removing that level of approval (or pre-approval if you will) puts the oweness on the "DSS" to be right 100% of the time. They forget, not all WC were desk Sgts before they were promoted. As a matter of fact, most good WC were street coppers and street/tact Sgts before they were promoted to Lt.
Bring back the desk Sgt and when the District Station Supervisor is a Sergeant make a PO the actor so there aren't any bruised egos
Eventually all Commanders and XOs will be civilians -- and a new generation of retired clouted hacks (Sgt. Keating and the like) will be able to collect a pension and free $$$ from the city.
Was i seeing things or was that Ernie Brown's Lt. Karyn M. getting out of a city car this morning at 35th street. You mean to tell me that this COMP STAT Lt neeeds a city car with city gas? For what? The newly appointed XO's don't even have a city car and they might have to respond to a legit emergency within their districts from home. What is Karyn going to respond to? The Chiefs call from home?
Don't forget these captains sold everyone under their rank out! and for what? To get off of midnights.? Hoot is for Hoot and don't forget that!
OT: Anyone else having problems with health insurance since the new year, copays, prescriptions not covered.
Why does any police officer care about xo rank . If you're a sgt , you will make more money working out of grade as a station supervisor . Sgt did most oc WC/Captains work anyway without any extra money . Once in awhile , maybe a free lunch or early out .
WC's always changed on city time , had the desk sgt or lt sit in while they toured district or left early .
Now if McCarthy could only force XO's to swipe in and out and write up some officers for uniform and
hair , beard violations , it would be a big help to sgts.
You don't get it both ways. Either the department is too top-heavy and the administrative ranks need to be thinned or "it aint my job" and the bosses need to stay to push the paper around that the lower ranks refuse to do.
Eliminating ranks has nothing to do with any contract and just because you work there doesn't mean you have some God-given right to a promotion. Either do the job or quit and go work somewhere else where you can sit on your ass and do nothing.
Who cares?!?! I give a rat's behind about losing another strata of bosses! Most are incompetent, few will have your back when it matters. Do you honestly think the working copper feels sorry for these clouted fools? They make a 6 figure salary and get off on screwing with the blue shirts e.g. shuffling starting times, bouncing people from car to car, all while taking care of the dogs of the districts who are their chosen pets; holding their slips, never asking activity of them whatsoever - the list goes on. Most of these bosses have property elsewhere- summer homes, real estate, and are set for life- and we are trying to focus on ONE mortgage payment each month and pray for a meager pension at the end of our 20+ years! I'm about sick to death of hearing about the poor bosses and their "burdens"- they all have enough time to retire (with a nice pension) so if the chair is that rough, then GO! And as far as promotions go- HA! That's the biggest joke of all! Any cop with more than 3 years on knows that's not going to happen without some clout. Stop focusing on stupid nonsense like this and give more attention to our depleting manpower, morale, and next contract!
"The goal is to make us a bunch of subsevent amateons who have no thoughts of are own and do what the Mayor wants."
My best guess at deciphering this butchery of the English language is " subservient automatons".
Hooked on phonics? CPS?
if it helps reduce the gold braid pensioners it's a plus
In my 24 plus year career with this department, I have never and I mean never seen it this fucked up. From our incompetent and inexperienced leaders, to low morale, faulty equipment, theivery and mismanagement of pension funds, hiring freeze, no districts bid openings for 6 months and counting, shuffling of crime numbers and statistical lies from the superintendant, broken judicial system here in Cook County and the violence towards the police. I am going to retire sooner that I had originally anticipated. I cant and wont take it anymore. Good luck boys and girls. Stay safe. Watch your back and your partners back. Family first. Fuck this department, the sneaky corrupt Mayor and this savage shithead filled city. I'll send you a post card from my modest 2 bedroom summer home I've been paying for all these years thats far away from this hell hole we call Chicago.
CPD can only hope it's commanders
that would end gold braid pension
So there's NOW less chance of promotion?
Did anybody who is not a insider really get made in the last say 10 years?
Not that I've seen.
For my part, I've gone privateer.
Arrests made for the sake of court, upgrades for court appearances that I might not otherwise attend and always - 1 ticket for the minor room and something for the major. Nothing more!
As the Fram filter man said ... pay me now or pay me later...
..is XO supposed to mean extraordinary ?
Please leave all the district people alone. The real waste in this dept. are all the exempt rank on 35 st. They work entire tours of duty never dealing with the public at any time.
I don't know who the real targets are but I can tell you who the real enemies are...
R Wedster-for openly admitting and bragging about voting for this nonsense. How can you, in any way shape or form write someone up for infractions as an inspector when your word and your background is so tainted?
E. Kulbida-aside from having major integrity issues, you set the stage citywide for converting lieutenants into sergeants by throwing them out of the office onto the desk. Great job gambling junkie !
A. Carothers- here is another incompetent over promoted political hack who would, under LEGIT organizations ( which the CPD is not) would be fired and or indicted. Big brother Ike still calling the shots there, AC?
This Englewood EngleHOOD along Kulbida set the groundwork for the XO coup which while I won't shed tears for most lt's, it puts the kibosh on any future chances for promotions.
Chief E. Williams-another one of west side minister's over paid over promoted political hacks -he's the architect of this stupid order thats going to cost the city big cash and embarrassment down the road.
Here is a snake faced fake smiley reverned wannabe that has a shell front of a church in 003 thats netting him big tax free cash,and a chief's pension but still doesn't know that his time is through and he needs to follow Ernie Clown out the door. You ain't getting promoted to Supt or First Dept, and the dirt you had on Cline don't mean anything so why are you still here? Or do you need G-Wac to humiliate you again like he did at a crumbstat meeting a few months ago?
Hoot Balmy-whatever his last name his, aka the persian thug. A one way lazy political sell out hack who effective screwed every blueshirts chance at getting a promotion in the near future. I hope that ghost payrolling spot in Mass transit was worth it. You sucked at the medical section, in 012 and you suck now more than ever . Crawl up your own ass and die, "X-HOE"
and last but not least, Don McSqueal, Commander of MLAS. You are such a low down backstabbing filthy judas that you are not worth the attention you've gotten .
Now only do you jump ship from being a union leader, you take a gold star, become the department's hatchet man for taking away rights and benefits of workers, then effectively screw every sworn officer by cutting overtime and promotion opportunities. You are more vile than aldermen, molesters, and raw sewage rolled into one.
and to think these individuals are considered leaders on a major police department. Bottomfeeding corrupt pension draining incompetent leeches.
What a joke.
There are still plenty of cops willing to feeed on the smaller portions of scraps thrown from the roof of City Hall by the mayor and his ilk. As long as people seek some sort of power there will always be those who do whatever it takes to get it and keep it. In the day most bosses were very good. There were a few arrogant pricks... but not many. Today is a different story. Cops today can only do their job and try to stay safe. Always look out for your fellow officers and then try to help as many decent citizens as you can. Taking chances is not an option any more. Taking a chance to keep yourself and your partner safe is always the right thing to do and will always be worth the risk.
The goal is to make us a bunch of subsevent amateons who have no thoughts of are own and do what the Mayor wants.
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"Amateons?" Sounds like you've been watching old Battlestar Galactica re-runs on your VCR again.
Or do you mean to say "automatons?"
Anonymous said...
No, the real targets are the Lts and sgts....the commanders already r in rahms pocket....they have always jumped when asked.
1/10/2012 03:10:00 AM
Sgts are the only Supervisors that wont be shocked by work. What else can be asked of the Beat Sgts? We already work our 8.5 (before the comments start, I wouldnt fear the swipe machine, Id be due more o.t. pay with it, ha!) and handle all the supervisor paperwork. After 8.5 its o.t.....
Tact and Unit Sgts might get set back a little but, we are all the same.
Lts and Capts will feel the shift. Some might keel over. Anyway, they will push some out. Change happens. Next mayor and Supt will bring more. Dont like your Goverment job? Try the private sector again. Its not greener over there.
Im just saying if you shut down and sit on your hands, you just make it harder for all of us in the end. You lose control of the streets and you will work harder in the future trying to do your job.
Im experienced only with the south and west sides. Northside Districts may just lose their "police discounts" at their favorite restaurants or something.
No matter what, the savages should never be given an inch. Keep the thugs in check or everyone will suffer in the future (take it easy Francis,its a joke!).
We are the ones in control, dont lose it or we and our families will be the victims.
I actually think its Supt McCarthy & Rahms version of " The Worst Performer List". Kharmas a bitch and so are the White Shirts who sold their soul for one.
The goal is to make us a bunch of subsevent amateons who have no thoughts of are own and do what the Mayor wants.
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What's a subsevent amateon?????
WTF?
1/10/2012 06:23:00 AM
Maybe he/she/it meant "subservient animatron?"
gotta go...mom says the laundry needs to be brought upstairs...
I can foresee Emanuel not making any promotions during his first term in office. This way he will cut the Police Dept budget way down. He wants everyone to work as if one rank higher,but with no monetary compensation.Follow me for a minute and see what you think:#1 Tact officers to do investigation work because not enough dicks to handle the load.#2 Sgt. to do Lts.work.Lts. to do Captains job, and by attrition the Commanders job will be eliminated. I'm leaving in less than a year short of Max , but cannot stand to witness the butchering of the City in general, and the Police Dept., in particular. It makes me sick to my stomach.to see how this mealy mouthed,arrogant, treacherous Mayor(S.O.B.)Can dismantle an Institution such as ours ,with so little regard for the fine members and their Families of the C.P.D. Sorry for the venting, but someone has to stop this little Prick.
09:41:00
You refer to Capt. Tom Hughes in your rant. While he was a great W/C while in 015 he was also one of the biggest political animals in the department. He was tied to the 11th Ward with an umbilical cord. He was also very lucky that he did not go to prison when a police radio assigned to him was found in the possession of a mob gambler. That is why he was never an exempt after 015.
Careful that these XO's don't start believing that they have all these crazy ideas about crime reduction and expect you to implement them now that they have this new found power and title??
I don't give a shit.
I love seeing the Secret Study Group Kiddies wail and nash their teeth! F U. Bet you wish you didn't leave a couple blank now, eh?
I said this in a different thread, but I'll say it again here. The XO spot is to insulate/protect the gold stars. 1 to 1 management makes no other sense. Come on, a Commander can't talk to one person from each watch? Total of 3 people? He's so important he can only have 1 person to talk to?
The XO will be the one to fall on the proverbial sword when things go wrong. All the exempt has to say is "Well, it's this way because my XO didn't listen to me"
Gold stars will thus be protected from any wrong they might do. Honestly, do you think the department is going to get rid of any exempts? What jobs would the the politicians/Rev's give away then?
Anonymous said...
Nagode from 001, was in 024 as a PO, then as a sgt, then left to be lt in 001. Now look at him. His father was a boss in the past. He is climbing the clout ladder.
1/10/2012 08:47:00 AM
Al N. was also in 019 for years before he made Sgt. I never had a problem with him, I worked for him after he made Lt & Capt, no problem, he would tell me what he wanted, it got done, no problem.
So what's the problem? You go to work, you do your job, you go home. Sounds easy enough.
If I had some old clout and it worked for me, you're goddamned right I would use it.
SCC, civil war has broken out in the 19th Ward. The South Side Irish Parade looks like it's coming back on 11 March (Sunday). A final decision should be announced Thursday, after a meeting between CDOT, the mayor's office, the new parade committee, and Ald Matt O'Shea.
Matt O'Shea is leading the charge against the parade coming back, while another power broker in the ward, James "Skinny" Sheehan, is leading the charge for the parade's return. There will be a huge influx of private security, allegedly, doing all of the stuff we tried for the last 10 years of it (except,in their words, private people will be better than the lazy police--no shit!).
Rumor has it that a major brewery that uses horses on their commercials has bankrolled the parade committee, and is threatening First Amendment lawsuits if the parade is not allowed to happen.
"Anonymous said...
Well captains werent really doing anything for the amount of money they were being paid. Going to roll call and apprving arrest reports was highway robbery.
Unfortunately promotions will be harder to come by but having layers of do nothings making six figures is the biggest injustice.
1/10/2012 12:20:00 AM"
Garry! STAY OFF OUR FUCKING BLOG!
If you are not Garry you are just the type of fool he and Rahm wants working for the CPD.
I am not a Captain but I have over 30 years service and anyone who read that and believed that just does not know what a Patrol WATCH COMMANDER does.
There's a lot more to do and a lot of RESPONSIBILITY and LIABILITY and a word I hate CULPABILITY for everyone who works on that watch or even walks in the door of the station or even drives through the district or gets on the radio.
Hey Rahm, want to save money? I'll go back to making 35g if you let me move the fuck out..you can keep my last several step raises...the dream is over, this is a dead end job. The pittance you pay me here goes a LONG way in properly run municipalities...
Do XO's take unpaid furlough days?
RE: X HOE
Wow. I concur
and to Rahm and soon to be ex president whats his face, the Kenwood Guy
I was a lifelong democrat. No more. I will never support the county state or local democratic ticket.
Emanuel, you can set up all of the Re Elect Obama campaign headquarters in this sinking toilet of a city all you want. His career is through and so is yours. You both are one term wonders.
Emanuel you are no more than the biggest rat in the third biggest toilet in the country, and you will be getting flushed down with the rest of the waste and sewage soon enough. MOST NATIONAL DUMMY CRATS AND ALL OF THE REPUBLICANS HATE YOUR GUTS, AND THE CITIZENS DON'T LIKE YOU EITHER. This means that you won't be reelected as mayor; you won't be governor, and a presidential run is out. Believe it.
Dont stock up on "mayor" desk name plates...you won't be needing them.
And when you go, take Garry McWacko with you.
I’m sure that most of you already know this and those who don’t will find out soon enough. BTW the 10%’rs that love to write negatively on this blog , we know who you are, your very transparent.
1/10/2012 09:31:00 AM
Nice post. Well thought out and very true of many Watch Commanders.
........on another note: What's with the rumors I am hearing about the retirement w/ Medical going down to 50?
The thought is that they can hire two young guys for the price of one old guy. The young guy will do more work and bring in more revenue. The old guy won't kill the pension because he gets out early and is paid less, and again the two young guys are now putting in.
The Department gets more bodies and they are more pliable and the Department sees it as a win. the Mayor gets credit for hiring the bodies we are always crying for so he sees it as a win. I get to Florida sooner and I see it as a win.
As an old guy, it hurts my feelings but I'll get over it when I get to Florida. Offer only available AFTER G8. I can wait.
A little O/T...
WTF was Ernie Brown doing at City Hall Friday? Could he be begging for his job back?
>>>Anonymous said...
OT a bit:
A. >>>I would like to know how many of those killed last year had I.R. numbers......real taxpayers don't care because the murder rate doesn't affect them, but the bottom dollar does.
B.>>> The problem is that more ghetto rats vote than taxpayers--and that's who the politicians cater to. Danny Davis, Get out the Vote, all that crap mobilizes the ghetto rats to vote.
C.>>> I bet a higher percentage of ghetto rats vote than coppers. Sad.
1/10/2012 07:01:00 AM<<<
A.>>> I would say 80-85% have Chicago I.R. numbers. One thing a Watch Commander does when there is a serious Agg. Battery, Shooting or Homicide is put together a quick email report. The victim is described in that report and very seldom is there a truly "innocent victim".
B.>>> Ghetto rats and ghetto Ghosts vote. Votes come from abandoned buildings and from gangs. We would arrest gangbangers on Election Day and find several voting receipts in their pockets.
C.>>> Police and their families should be a strong voting block that should be feared and catered to. But only 23% of cops vote, so who gets the benefits us or sanctuary city folks.
"They make a 6 figure salary and get off on screwing with the blue shirts e.g. shuffling starting times, bouncing people from car to car, all while taking care of the dogs of the districts who are their chosen pets; holding their slips, never asking activity of them whatsoever - the list goes on."
We badmouthed Leo to everyone with ears BUTT still were given an early start time. Stop by the 40 E. Grand satellite station sometime, we'll introduce you to the new inspectors. Hate the game not duh playahs.
How can anyone who claims to be a friend to the police make such poorly thought recommendations to screw over her friends? Wow! Talk about stabbing your friends in the back with what amounts to pay cuts by eliminating their duties, downsizing districts and eliminating any chance of a promotion until Rhamhole leaves office. Great Civilian Contracting job you did.
Hope the day when you call for help none is available due to your recommendations. Do us all a favor and keep your ass in the private sector where it belongs.
You are nothing more than a Badge Bunny/-Cop Groupie.
Anonymous said...
If you reference the history of the Chicago Police Dept., you will find that when they were on a Precinct system, one (1) captain was in charge of the Precinct and he was appointed by the Ward Boss. This era is actually called the Political Era of American Policing. Some of the older stations, such as 023 actually still had that precinct designation in the concrete. Add to this the Booze Allen Study when Daley first took office and you can see that the rank of Captain and Commander can easily be flipped or one can be eliminated. Let's not start to think like some of the people we police and forget that things have origins and beginings. In the 1990's this Dept survived with the virtual elimination of Captains and it can survive without commanders. Eliminating Commanders would save millions of dollars in Gold Braid Pensions which for too long have been patronage golden parachutes for the clouted.
1/10/2012 08:19:00 AM
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Just to go a little farther with the history lesson, after the arrival of O.W. Wilson the Captains were removed from command of the Precincts (Renamed Districts) and many Captains were promoted to District Commander. The rest of the Captains became Watch Commanders. One of the things Wilson insisted on was that a Districe Commander and higher exempts had to be hold the rank of Captain. He did allow for a couple of Lieutenants and at least 1 Sergeant to hold exempt rank, but those were only in non operational assignments, such as the Directory of Training, who only held Sergeant rank. Things went along fine with this arrangement until the 90's when for some reason there was a decision made, along with the Caps initiation, to eliminate the rank of Captain and to assigne 3 Lieutenants to every watch. One would be the Inside Boss or Watch Oerations Lieutenant, 1 would be the Field Operations Lieutenant and 1 would be relief. Fortunately this was only a pilot program in 5 or 6 districts. The orders delineating the duties were extremely similar to the recently promulgated orders regarding district operations. The original program was an absolute, unmitigated disaster. In many of the districts at least 2 of the 3 did not speak to each other, in many of them dissimilar styles created havoc. In only 1 or 2 one of the Lieutenants assumed more responsibility and authority than was called for, but in those 1 or 2districts the system struggled along, but barely. It did not take too long, thank god, for the mistake to be rectified and once again Captains were promoted and took command of the watches. Unfortunately that also gave rise to the current Captain promotion system. Captains, by the way, are not technically Exempt members. Their title is "Senior Management" and they do have some protection, much more than the exempt from arbitrary demotion.
Personally I do not see this as an attempt to eliminate either Commanders or Captains, but rather as an attempt to make do with less, notably promotions in the lower ranks which will be a big money saver.
Again, Personally, I do not see how the duties of a Desk Sergeant can be lumped on to a Watch Commander, by whatever name you call him. Lot's of possibilites for things to go wrong in that scenario. I have been both in my day, at one time or another, and both, if done correctly and responsibly, require a fair amount of attention. I also don't see exactly how a Lieutenant station supervisor can sit back comfortably while a Sergeant Field supervisor handles a shooting by or of a P.O. I'm sorry Sergeants you simply do not, in general, have the experience to do this, and you certainly do not have the wherewithal to dispute an obviously stupid decision by an Exempt when that happens, and it will. Many of you have no idea how many times a Captain or Lieutenant have spoken up loudly to prevent a lot of bullshit fallin down on the back of a P.O.
Rant over.
As a retired lieutenant, I have to admit this poster is basically correct. It did not happen all of the time, but it happened frequently. The captains always left early and left a lieutenant as WC with no slips either for time taken or out of grade. When two lts were working one usually went home early as did sergeants . Nothing new here. Field Lt was a very good job, even if you had a no nothing no balls captain. All good things must end.
1/08/2012 08:18:00 P.M.
Finally a Lt. who will admit what we already knew. But too bad it took you until you retired to admit your stealing and early ducks. But good forbid if my kid gets hurt and I need to leave a few minutes early you would be the first one all over this travesty or the one asking me for a slip. Just like every white shirt who forgot what it was like to wear blue. Every white shirt has someone telling a story of what a dog ass patrolman you were. Always late for roll call and early ducks. Except for a select few good bosses, the rest of you sell outs go Fuck Yourselves you two faced bastards
Thats exactly what it is. Alderman would fuck the co in a heartbeat if it means keepin his spot. now that the city has pinned white shirts against white shirts, the question becomes, will the lts and sgts hold out or will they sell their soul as well and sell out like the capts. The investigation continues
I think they need to make Assistant Station Supervisors. We can call them ASS for short!
Off topic:
Why is Fop playing games with members who are running for political seats? I'm not saying we need to blindly endorse them, but how about you give them the benefit of the doubt? Have them come in to request endorsement, but for chrissakes - these are people who have our pension in mind.
The only thing I can imagine is that good ole Mikey has ambitions higher than fop one day and is willing to sell out his own to make that happen.
1/10/2012 10:18:00 AM
I disagree. Policewoman is running for State Rep up north and when asked who her Senator was she had no idea. The Union shouldn't blindly be giving endorsements to people with no clue.
Sounds about right. Our new bunk mates, the CFD, already do that. A Captain runs each house. The Captain is responsible for what goes on in that house even on his/her days off.
Received my first pension check last week!!! I'm glad I'm gone but also feel a sadness for those that are still there. Between inept double and triple promoted merit exempts, politicians that meddle and influence, a media that can't wait for us to make a mistake and crucify us and a segment of the population that either is waiting to hit the lottery with a civil suit againt the city or hasn't worked a day in their cradle to grave government assistance lives, the honest working police officer who respects the job doesn't stand a chance. The real loosers are the citizens who don't realize what they have done to one of the finest organizations in the world. Be careful out there. Have each others backs. I miss working with you but am glad to be free from the disgust that was building inside me on a daily basis.If only a true leader existed to call it like it really is and make the hard decisions to do the RIGHT thing, not the politically correct thing. God bless all the working police officers out there. You'll need it in the years ahead.
OT: Just heard from a contact at 023.
Ser Co meter maid attacked, hit & put into a headlock by a Barrington male after his Lexus was ticketed at near Belmont & Clark St a few days ago around 7pm.
But the offender has yet to be arrested and charged even though the CPD has a name and address of the offender as well as witness statements.
Now...I'm no fan of the Contractors that write for Revenue....but I'd figure they should be supported by the Cop's on a Battery beef since they are doing City Business.
We're FUCKED:
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/iteam&id=8496624&rss=rss-wls-article-8496624
I don’t know where you work and I’m sorry if you’ve had a bad experience, but here is a little insight into being a captain W/C. Theoretically, on any given watch there are 20% who will do their work to their best ability, regardless of bosses or other outside factors because of integrity and strong work ethic. 10% will make every effort to do nothing for the opposite reasons. That leaves 70% who given proper direction, motivation, and attention will be brought up to the 20% or without it slide towards to the 10%. I have to know each of these officers, what motivates them and their strengths and weaknesses. I have had to guide supervisors to step out of their own comfort zones and motivate officers that they would have avoided in the past. We have to deal with people who have different work ethics than us and to understand that everyone is not like us. We find strengths (sometimes difficult) whether it be traffic, guns, or sometimes people just like to answer calls and write reports. If they take that responsibility on with pride that’s fine with me. I know when their children are due to be born, when they are getting divorced, married or had a bad breakup. These factors all have to be considered before counseling them for activity etc… because I have found that my words have an enormous impact on them. I have to be a buffer between them and the often ridiculous mandates that come down from above. I have to make decisions on manpower while ensuring that time off-furlough requests are met to the best of my ability. When officers make mistakes we fix them before it goes beyond watch level. We make sure that awards are written, CR’s are handled and equipment is in the best working order that this department will allow. This I has turned out to be an honor to be able to experience a watch that has become the 90% .
I’m sure that most of you already know this and those who don’t will find out soon enough. BTW the 10%’rs that love to write negatively on this blog , we know who you are, your very transparent.
1/10/2012 09:31:00 AM
Seriously? You still don't get it.
Seriously? You wrote this with a straight face?
Seriously. You 'da man!
Anonymous said...
OT: Anyone else having problems with health insurance since the new year, copays, prescriptions not covered.
1/10/2012 11:03:00 AM
I don't know why but this seems to happen EVERY year.
For some unknown reason they need to iron out the New Year kinks.
REMINDER:
FOP Limited / Convalescent Duty Meeting
Wednesday, 11 January 2011
1400 hrs.
This affects EVERY Officer.
The NEW policy is 365 days for your entire career!
We need to fight this new policy.
If you are available you need to get your butt to the hall.
McCarthy deserves a big applause for reassigning officers to Fugitive apprehension unit .The 2 officers helped arrest killer of Officer Lewis .
1/10/2012 10:27:00 AM
It's a publicity stunt--and an attempt to redeem himself with us. Don't let him fool you. He's still the 9.5 mini-me, which makes him dangerous as hell. He's milking it for all it's worth...did you hear his radio interview today? I'm surprised the interviewer didn't lick his boots.
The biggest mistake they made was getting rid if the desk Sgt. Granted, some were assholes but most knew their shit and caught alot of mistakes before they hit the WC que. Removing that level of approval (or pre-approval if you will) puts the oweness on the "DSS" to be right 100% of the time. They forget, not all WC were desk Sgts before they were promoted. As a matter of fact, most good WC were street coppers and street/tact Sgts before they were promoted to Lt.
1/10/2012 10:32:00 AM
'oweness'
Don't use 'big' words you don't understand. Good grief.
Look it up for crying out loud!
Regarding the insurance problem this year. Got prescription at Walgreens. Charged full price. Questioned it. They asked to see my blue cross card. It went through then. Haven't got doctor bill yet.
I will try to find the article, but I read somewhere that McDrunk said that police depts. are evolving from being run like para-military organizations to being run more like businesses. I'll try to find the link...I just read it in the last couple of days.
1/10/2012 06:19:00 AM
He said it at the Union League Club on the day he was trying to bust Mike Shield's chops.
1st watch in 001st dist. has nobody higher in rank than sergeant.
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not true. Nagode will be there part of the time. Also, the tact and foot lt's will be filling in since serafini went to 3rd watch.
I don't believe they are trying to get rid of the Commanders. Think about it, the XO's are still protected by the Captains union. Thus they still get overtime. The XO's in time will make this work for them where they will be making enough overtime to be making more than the Commander. You had Lt.'s that were making more than a Commander because of their ot. But I do believe this is some kind of master plan to even further reduce future promotions..
1/10/2012 08:11:00 AM
Those former captains won't have a contract after the expiration of the one they have. If they want to remain exempt but get benefits that other exempt do not get they are in for a rude awakening.
well the opportunities are there but NOT fairly anyways when it comes to promotions. the ones that very more often times that get promoted are useless and with the comibination of being assholes, so if the wearing of a blue shirt prevents those individuals to get promoted, good!
"However, XO as we're aware stands for Executive Officer. In the military my XO or 2nd in command dealt more hands on with enlisted personnel and other Admin. issues within the squadron. We always had a CO."
True bus as you know, CPD while it tries to LOOK like a semi-military organization, is nothing but a cheap knock off and haven for catholic school underachievers and wannbe career military-types.
The rest of us (like you) just look on and shake our heads.
CPD can only hope it's commanders
that would end gold braid pension
1/10/2012 12:19:00 PM
Captains get the gold braid pension too so....
"All I want to do now is coast into retirement and get the fuck out of this shithole. If only I could have glimpsed the future before I signed up for this shit I would have stayed in school and chosen a different career path. What a disappointment this job has turned out to be."
Make the best of it. Get back in school. Make the department pay for it (while they still will).
Use your experience here to get a better job elsewhere. I'm not
talking about another job in law enforcement, either.
CPD Patrol Officer may have become a dead end job, but that doesn't mean your life is over.
Insanity, but be thankful you have a job remembering many don't and many are struggling,improvement may be around the corner! May God bless us and protect us!
"I don’t know where you work and I’m sorry if you’ve had a bad experience, but here is a little insight into being a captain W/C."
The problem is you're a rarity here.
You're a leader.
The majority of your peers and bosses aren't.
OT: Read Crains Chicago's take on the G8 Summit and also the one comment by IDA who says we should set up a Visitors Center for the Protestors (she calls it a Welcome Protestors Center - and she's serious, really.)
What kind of liberal wackos live in Chicago?? I can see why no one reads Crains anymore.
http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20120107/ISSUE01/301079972/shops-and-swats-on-mag-mile-during-summits
Not a LEO, JAFO.
..is XO supposed to mean extraordinary ?
no actually
HUGS AND KISSES
Rahm hired McCarthy so he would not have any ties to the old police dept bosses. but McCarthy is a goof, what amazes me is that these 2 have wreaked havoc over the dept. in less then 1 yr. and by the time they are done the citywill be SHIT, Rahm will go on and so will McGoofy. I don't care where he was a policeboss, he has Fucked up a good dept. sure we have prblems but that is what happens when you mix politics with police. Beware of the contract at talk time.
Lts out of units...godd luck to the unlucky district that ends up with Miss Jane from the DOC. Winner of miss congeniality three years running. Of course the competition was held at cook county morgue, drawers full of competition.
The Real Target is our Pride.
OT: Anyone else having problems with health insurance since the new year, copays, prescriptions not covered.
1/10/2012 11:03:00 AM
Yes, theres saying its a glitch but only my husband is covered no one else. No dependents and they don't have an ETA on when it will be fixed.
Anonymous said...
Captains like Commanders are APPOINTED, plain and simple. Their TRUE career service rank should br Lieutenant, a rank they tested for. As appointees the carrot is consistenly dangled in front of them, if they do not comply, they may lose their captain status. True Captains like TOM HUGHES would never have gone for any of this bullsh**. The Department is in the toilet bowl on a downward spiral. We NEED hierarchy such as the military. We do not need the gross numbers of the "somebody's boy" bosses. A Sergeant and Lieutenant cannot run a district. Commanders are needed, real captains follow and then lt's and sgt's. It's the trickle down effect. We are suppose to reflect a military command chain, hence a "para-military" organization. The department should not gamble with officers lives by restructuring the ranks, just cut the WORTHLESS fat. 35th, Units, political sronies, etc... Let those that do the WORK in the trenches keep doing their job, without being stonewalled or made to turn 180 degrees everytime a new "puppet" steps into the chair. Good policemen will always survive changes. Morale is another story. As George S. Patton stated; "Did you ever see a FEW policemen hanldle a crowd!" The good general was complimenting us on how are presence demanded RESPECT and FEAR! We can become that again, only with TRUE LEADERSHIP. Bye Bye McJersey, see ya!!!!!!!!!!!!
1/10/2012 09:41:00 AM
"True Captains???" Hughes was a good guy alright but a "true captain?" Perhaps you're forgetting that he stood up at Richard M. Daley's wedding. After Hughes name surfaced in one of the many Chinatown scandals, Daley distanced himself from Hughes faster than a world class sprinter. Good guy, yeah, but don't try to give the impression that he was promoted legit. It didn't happen.
OT: Anyone else having problems with health insurance since the new year, copays, prescriptions not covered.
1/10/2012 11:03:00 AM
I meant... Yes, they're saying it's a glitch but only my husband is covered no one else....
Word is 20 capts voted no and 23 yes? The capts should get together and see if this count is accurate. If so remember that almost half voted no.
Just do your job wtf
You guys should be aware that the CFD has downgraded and the rigs have to go miles out of their district to go to their HQs leaving their area of protection vacant for quick response which is why they are where they are to begin with. Home protection is the name of the game. And your family will have to wait a LONG time for a response.
Better make sure the smoke detector has a fresh battery.
The biggest mistake they made was getting rid if the desk Sgt. Granted, some were assholes but most knew their shit and caught alot of mistakes before they hit the WC que. Removing that level of approval (or pre-approval if you will) puts the oweness on the "DSS" to be right 100% of the time. They forget, not all WC were desk Sgts before they were promoted. As a matter of fact, most good WC were street coppers and street/tact Sgts before they were promoted to Lt.
1/10/2012 10:32:00 AM
'oweness'
Don't use 'big' words you don't understand. Good grief.
Look it up for crying out loud!
1/10/2012 07:09:00 PM
Sorry I meant onus. Who needs spell check when we have our resident ANUS like you monitoring the blog. Never have anything to add just there to correct everyone's spelling and grammar. Stop already, your Cal College degree is showing...dickhead
Just A City Worker said...
OT: Just heard from a contact at 023.
Ser Co meter maid attacked, hit & put into a headlock by a Barrington male after his Lexus was ticketed at near Belmont & Clark St a few days ago around 7pm.
But the offender has yet to be arrested and charged even though the CPD has a name and address of the offender as well as witness statements.
Now...I'm no fan of the Contractors that write for Revenue....but I'd figure they should be supported by the Cop's on a Battery beef since they are doing City Business.
I just made a check to the city for a Meter Maid ticket which was put right on top of my current FOP and St. Jude sticker. I will run to help as soon as I put the check in the mail.
Anonymous said...
I don’t know where you work and I’m sorry if you’ve had a bad experience, but here is a little insight into being a captain W/C. Theoretically, on any given watch there are 20% who will do their work to their best ability, regardless of bosses or other outside factors because of integrity and strong work ethic. 10% will make every effort to do nothing for the opposite reasons. That leaves 70% who given proper direction, motivation, and attention will be brought up to the 20% or without it slide towards to the 10%. I have to know each of these officers, what motivates them and their strengths and weaknesses. I have had to guide supervisors to step out of their own comfort zones and motivate officers that they would have avoided in the past. We have to deal with people who have different work ethics than us and to understand that everyone is not like us. We find strengths (sometimes difficult) whether it be traffic, guns, or sometimes people just like to answer calls and write reports. If they take that responsibility on with pride that’s fine with me. I know when their children are due to be born, when they are getting divorced, married or had a bad breakup. These factors all have to be considered before counseling them for activity etc… because I have found that my words have an enormous impact on them. I have to be a buffer between them and the often ridiculous mandates that come down from above. I have to make decisions on manpower while ensuring that time off-furlough requests are met to the best of my ability. When officers make mistakes we fix them before it goes beyond watch level. We make sure that awards are written, CR’s are handled and equipment is in the best working order that this department will allow. This I has turned out to be an honor to be able to experience a watch that has become the 90% .
I’m sure that most of you already know this and those who don’t will find out soon enough. BTW the 10%’rs that love to write negatively on this blog , we know who you are, your very transparent.
1/10/2012 09:31:00 AM
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LMAO! Good one pops! Forget to take your meds today? Your one of those goofs that think everything is legit! You are so transparent I know enough not to listen to you, retired, or when you were the boss, because even if you could have picked me out, there was nothing then, or nothing now, that you could ever do to me. The only way to fuck with me would be to put me on gang or tac, which you would never do. Man, you suck at life.
OT: Just heard from a contact at 023.
Ser Co meter maid attacked, hit & put into a headlock by a Barrington male after his Lexus was ticketed at near Belmont & Clark St a few days ago around 7pm.
But the offender has yet to be arrested and charged even though the CPD has a name and address of the offender as well as witness statements.
Now...I'm no fan of the Contractors that write for Revenue....but I'd figure they should be supported by the Cop's on a Battery beef since they are doing City Business.
1/10/2012 06:54:00 PM
Hurry drop everything and put the manhunt on.
Oh wait nobody gives a fuck. He go to court and get a warrant.
Last I checked; Captains are removed from field units with watch commanders office. Al No Goodie, 001. Worst Captain ever. Who promoted him to Captain??????
1/10/2012 01:30:00 AM
i agree with the other poster. never had a problem the year or so i worked for nagode. we crossed paths when he first made capt and was in 024 on 1st watch. he has a bit of a temper, ill give you that, but as long as you are working and not a complete dog he was cool. sounds like you got yelled at by the big bad captain, had a few pops and now are flexing your blog balls. Also if nagode is the worst captain you ever had you have never worked out south. finally if you are so interested as to who promoted him to captain why dont you post your name and maybe someone can tell you?
"Sounds about right. Our new bunk mates, the CFD, already do that. A Captain runs each house. The Captain is responsible for what goes on in that house even on his/her days off.
1/10/2012 06:20:00 PM"
Theres no comparsion between the two. A CFD Captain is responsible for maybe 30 guys tops. A CPD District Captain under the new configuration will be responsible for over 300. Time to get real.
#1 Tact officers to do investigation work because not enough dicks to handle the load.
Good tact officers do follow-ups on their own.
The CFD Copper said...
Sounds about right. Our new bunk mates, the CFD, already do that. A Captain runs each house. The Captain is responsible for what goes on in that house even on his/her days off.
1/10/2012 06:20:00 PM
Great point... Except that a captain in the fire department is equivalent in rank to a lieutenant in the police. You were saying? Lieutenants as watch commanders then? That's radical.
1/11/2012 12:25am Wow you really are a miserable person! Hate to be in your family.
Too the people that write 1,000 word responses.... I don't read them
Is Lt Ritchie Scotchbreath going to be an XO?
Instead of rushing to the meter maid's aid I was busy writing a check to cover my zone parkIng ticket- put it right over my fop sticker. KARMA
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I said this in a different thread, but I'll say it again here. The XO spot is to insulate/protect the gold stars. 1 to 1 management makes no other sense. Come on, a Commander can't talk to one person from each watch? Total of 3 people? He's so important he can only have 1 person to talk to?
The XO will be the one to fall on the proverbial sword when things go wrong. All the exempt has to say is "Well, it's this way because my XO didn't listen to me"
Gold stars will thus be protected from any wrong they might do. Honestly, do you think the department is going to get rid of any exempts? What jobs would the the politicians/Rev's give away then?
1/10/2012 04:30:00 PM
And what exactly can be done to the XO if he fails at his new assignment? Not much. Demote him? I don't think so. Make him an inspector? That looks to be the better of the two "Captain" jobs! Very little responsibility being an inspector. No comstat bullshit! Get a few heads and call it a day. Not bad for $110,000 plus. Do they get a car too???
OT: Just heard from a contact at 023.
Ser Co meter maid attacked, hit & put into a headlock by a Barrington male after his Lexus was ticketed at near Belmont & Clark St a few days ago around 7pm.
But the offender has yet to be arrested and charged even though the CPD has a name and address of the offender as well as witness statements.
Now...I'm no fan of the Contractors that write for Revenue....but I'd figure they should be supported by the Cop's on a Battery beef since they are doing City Business.
1/10/2012 06:54:00 PM
Hurry drop everything and put the manhunt on
*** Maybe that meter maid told that individual to go f**k themselves or that they didn't give a f**k as to whatever their comment/gripe was when the ticket was issued- since these meter maids are known to have thes 'I dont care atrtitudes' fuck em !!! karmas a bitch
I really apologize for the typos in my latest posting. I posted in the evening when tired and after a cocktail. Hopefully, it will not happen again.
Get rid of tact LT's !!!!
mccarthy will require XO's to swipe in and out or spared
no more early ducks
hoot in the hell can get public transportation to work a complete shift
Ok, I'm going to take a break from reading this blog, have you been drinking? SCC is completely wrong on this one.
In 25 they appointed a Crossing Guard Supervisor on the Second Watch (2508) so we are up one spot. Can we get a 2508 on the third watch to handle dismissals?
And what exactly can be done to the XO if he fails at his new assignment? Not much. Demote him? I don't think so. Make him an inspector? That looks to be the better of the two "Captain" jobs! Very little responsibility being an inspector. No comstat bullshit! Get a few heads and call it a day. Not bad for $110,000 plus. Do they get a car too???
1/11/2012 10:07:00 AM
They get a car, all right. And, they set their own hours.
Can you say "fox in the hen house"?
TO the Capt W/C writing about the 10% versus the 20% and being smart enough to think of yourself as some prolific leader, where did you get your degree, if you have one, from. Silo Tech comes to mind. You are such a single minded ass. You are one of the reasons that the rank and file wonder what bread truck you fell off of. P.S I am also a W/C. You make the rank a joke with your "I'm a educated adviser" How were you promoted? what alderman's car did you wash?
And what exactly can be done to the XO if he fails at his new assignment? Not much. Demote him? I don't think so
This is a nice comment and as of now, true. But what, in reality can be done to anyone in this department for not doing their job? What has been done to anyone in the last 20 years for not doing their job, from patrolman to lieutenant? Why nothing of course. That is because the department has chosen not to do anything. But, that does not mean that they will not choose this same policy in the future. Supervisors can be demoted, detectives can be put back in uniform. Anyone can be fired for not doing their job. It is just that the department, at this point, is just not willing to take on the battle.
P.S I am also a W/C.
Hey dipshit, you are a fraud, CPD does not have W/C's.
Get rid of tact LT's !!!!
1/11/2012 02:30:00 PM
Wow!!! That's a lot of hate junior.
What's the matter...????
Tact Lt. wont take you or did he personally do something that made you go home and cry to mommy.
Hey Rahm, want to save money? I'll go back to making 35g if you let me move the fuck out..you can keep my last several step raises...the dream is over, this is a dead end job. The pittance you pay me here goes a LONG way in properly run municipalities...
Yes, I hear there's some great deals on property in Harvey and Robbins. Where can you move on 35k a year. IDIOT.
Supervisors can be demoted, detectives can be put back in uniform.
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WRONG
Supervisors CANNOT be demoted.
Only detectives can be dumped. They are still
"Police Officers assigned as Detective"
We make sure that awards are written, CR’s are handled and equipment is in the best working order that this department will allow. This I has turned out to be an honor to be able to experience a watch that has become the 90% .
I’m sure that most of you already know this and those who don’t will find out soon enough. BTW the 10%’rs that love to write negatively on this blog , we know who you are, your very transparent.
This was the best laugh I've had in a long time...you are so full of shit...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
And what exactly can be done to the XO if he fails at his new assignment? Not much. Demote him? I don't think so
This is a nice comment and as of now, true. But what, in reality can be done to anyone in this department for not doing their job? What has been done to anyone in the last 20 years for not doing their job, from patrolman to lieutenant? Why nothing of course. That is because the department has chosen not to do anything. But, that does not mean that they will not choose this same policy in the future. Supervisors can be demoted, detectives can be put back in uniform. Anyone can be fired for not doing their job. It is just that the department, at this point, is just not willing to take on the battle.
1/11/2012 09:17:00 PM
Not willing to take on that battle! Absolutely correct, but you mess with a XO you better be prepared to defend why dipshits like Carruthers are allowed to collect a check!
I hate to say it but maybe we were better off with Jody Weis and Dick Daley!
Where are all the general orders pertaining to all these assanine changes?
>>>Anonymous said...
Supervisors can be demoted, detectives can be put back in uniform.
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WRONG
Supervisors CANNOT be demoted.
Only detectives can be dumped. They are still
"Police Officers assigned as Detective"
1/12/2012 10:43:00 AM<<<
Detectives can be reassigned as Patrolman or do it voluntarily.
Captains can be demoted by action of the Police Board; I believe that has happened twice since that sellout contract from the 1980's.
Anyone who goes to a lower grade payscale can get their pension upgrade returned.
>>>Anonymous said...
P.S I am also a W/C.
Hey dipshit, you are a fraud, CPD does not have W/C's.
1/12/2012 01:08:00 AM<<<
I didn't write the above but the frauds are Rahm, McJersey and Trolls like you.
>>> Anonymous said...
Get rid of tact LT's !!!!
1/11/2012 02:30:00 PM<<<
Gee you will never be promoted anyway. But why eliminate 25 positions and make less chance for advancement for someone else. With no Tact Lieutenant, something with some teams will go wrong and when it does they will ask, "Where was there supervisor?"
>>>Anonymous said...
$5 million a year savings doing away with the commanders position.
1/10/2012 08:42:00 AM<<<
What a genius! Take out in back and shoot them. FOOL, they still work for the CPD. As Commanders they do not get overtime and paid holidays. So they get a take home car, I have had many DCs show up at shootings and meetings at all hours. Who wants that all that responsibility for no more money.
For all the hair gels that hated Phil Cline , you got exactly what you deserve jfled & now worse mcgoof from newyork
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