Occupy Riot
Twelve protesters were arrested Wednesday evening after a scuffle with police on Michigan Avenue at Ohio Street that left five officers injured.
One of the twelve - Gary C. Wagaman, a 30-year-old Michigan resident - is charged with aggravated battery to a peace officer and is expected in criminal court Thursday, police said. Wagaman tossed a frying pan at police, striking one of the members of the bike unit in the head, police said.
The protesters were using pots and pans to make noise, police said. The officer was wearing a helmet when it hit him in the head, police said. Police said that Wagaman touched off the skirmish that led to the other 11 arrests, as others in the group tried to stop police from getting to Wagaman.
This even sounds like a confession of law breaking:
Some protesters were arrested in the street, but officers arrested other group leaders on the sidewalk after the situation had “settled,” said the protesters, who claim officers used batons and physical force.
“We were vying for the street when they started pushing us over the curb and pushing us down,” said Daniel Goering, 18, of Evanston. “Arrests started happening and everything got tense.
"...vying for the street..." You don't get the street. It isn't yours.
These people are injuring police officers. With weapons. Game over. They aren't protestors any more. They are criminals and hooligans.
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posted by SCC at 6:31 AM
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Minor scuffle. No one hurt. Minor inconvenience to the public. Occupy is dying out. Best thing that could happen to it.
Time to occupy their building headquarters for violations
FYI Everyone needs to pray that they never come down with a serious illness during their career. The department will not take care of you! You will only get 365 days of limited duty, after that you will have to go on disability. Our disability sucks. You only get a 1yr of disability for every 4 yrs worked and up to a maximum of 5 yrs disability. So if you have less then 16yrs on the job you are fucked!
Hey occupiers. When given an order by the police, it is not open to debate. When told that you are under arrest, it is not open for debate, you must surrender. If you don't comply, I will use enough force to take you in to custody. If your co-conspirators wish to interfer with the police, they too will be arrested, also using enough force to do so.
You argue your case in court, to a judge and jury.
In 011 now, no more than 3 people off per day on weekends untill the end of the 8th peroid. Per XO Bay. Weekends include Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and some mondays. What's the point of working in the ghetto anymore, fuck this place.
Anonymous said...
XO in 005 is a JAG off. Could be a great place to work if he had any hint of a personality. Learn how to lead or at least talk to your guys. 005 finally has some officers there who will actually go to jobs, back each other up, and work.
6/07/2012 01:32:00 AM
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XO in 019 is a prick to not to mention his crew of JillBilly caboose and olive oil overbearing assholes
OT...
Is 011 the NEW cursed district??
- Sgt getting CR and lawsuit for sexual harassment? And its MAN ON MAN sexual harassment???????
- Prostitute in lockup alleges he/she/it had something "inappropriate" done by a male officer working lockup?????
Right in time for contract negotiations, too. Funny how that works.
well
i would think a frypan could be as damaging as a hit in the head with hammer ( ask any husband who blew the check on drinking and partying) :)
it assault with a deadly weapon
and should be prosecuted and held for medical bills as well
i'm sure over the years have seen quite a few of those calls:)
plus if they impeding the flow of traffic along the walk or street
then they are infringing on other's rights to use the street in a lawful matter
the idea was "right"
just the way they went about it was wrong
i would like to think with all free advice they get from the grassroots organizations
they would have known that
thank you
None of these fuckheads has a real job or probably a place to live. Ma and Dad tossed them out a long time ago. I agree with being strict in dealing with these assholes, but we all know they will file lawsuits and get money. The lawyers getting at least half. The $12 mil the group from a few years ago got almost half went to lawyers. What a fucking joke. And the jokes on us cops and taxpayers.
I wouldn't dignify this with the term "riot." "Disturbance" would cover it.
I think there are still a few leftovers hanging around Chicago; confused characters popping up in odd places asking for directions, just a couple more than usual.
“We were vying for the street...” said Daniel Goering, 18, of Evanston."
Don't care what you chant. The street does NOT belong to you. It is a public way, for everyone's use, and you have no right to obstruct the passage of others.
GET ON THE CURB, ASSHOLE.
Jeez. Gotta spell it out with blocks.
Oh. In one of his WBBM radio stories just now, Mike Krauser claimed that a police officer was wearing a T-shirt that said approximately "NATO 2012 -- We got up early and beat the crowd."
When the story repeated minutes later, that was snipped off.
Didn't hear anything about what the offenders were wearing -- or shouting, and they are not known for polite language.
Anyway, you gotta watch it around some people, so you don't end up on the front page about some s__tty little thing -- and it's not like their jumper cables in the corner of their garage aren't in a plastic crate that belongs to a dairy in Minot, N.D., or maybe their kid has a swiped "No Parking" sign in his bedroom, or their wife didn't do the dishes yet...
Was in another town last night, smaller family grocery store, local copper, very squared-away and professional, walks in for a few minutes, has conversation with people there -- like maybe that's his brother behind the counter? -- lots of laughing, hooks himself a cold mini-Snapple on the way out the door into the lovely evening.
Nu? So?
Guys are getting hit in the head fighting with loons, trying to get them out of a major intersection so people like Mike Krauser can peacefully go about their business, and here it is over 15 states about a f__ing T-shirt.
I mean...
RIP Fto Rocky Elmer. You influenced many. You'll be missed.
"Gary C. Wagaman, a 30-year-old Michigan resident - is charged with aggravated battery to a peace officer and is expected in criminal court Thursday, police said. Wagaman tossed a frying pan at police, striking one of the members of the bike unit in the head..."
Hey, uh, please don't piddle this down to a misdemeanor/court supervision like you did with Taylor Hall from Pennsylvania, the one who attacked an officer and tried to drag her off her bike -- captured on news video -- and who had attacked two other officers in two other incidents during NATO.
This is getting boring.
NATO is over.
Chicago is not going to be a Romper Room for a few defectives for the next several months. Police are not rubber play targets because someone watched a YouTube about "1968."
Send the message -- the way it is done in so many other felony cases. Put this one in IDOC. Tell him to sign for two years or he'll get five. There's your due process; five or six months in County and then 60 seconds in front of a judge. Rubber-stamp it and "Next case." These people think "Perry Mason" or something.
Baby Gary doesn't want to hear "Stay on the sidewalk." Maybe this will sink in.
Idiot.
Oh, yeah, "Jared" and "Brent" and that other one, the "cop-burners," are still sitting in County. Nice that they are learning exactly how long one week, one day -- one hour -- can be.
I won't spoil it for anyone.
"Alright, these idiots have had their fun. Time to shut them down each and every instance of law breaking. Jaywalking, littering, etc." -- SCC
...AND PROSECUTE FELONIES, AGGRAVATED BATTERY TO A POLICE OFFICER, AS FELONIES.
You say you are gonna back your officers, well, let's go.
this is what happens/has happened in other cities, when you let these assholes do what ever they want.... most of the time they do not have permits for these "demonstrations" but they get to make noise, obstruct vehicular/pedestrian traffic when ever they want... these bosses downtown need to grow sum balls and lock them up when they start this shit... not wait until they attack police
There's not many of them these days, but they are a cantankerous little group of assholes.
"...the protesters...claim officers used batons and physical force..."
Yes.
And?
Off topic but important. An article in the NYtimes from today details pension cuts being made to workers in 2 california cities. Scary thing is that these cuts passed and are not just for new hires. They voted to cut pensions for existing employees. We know this will inspire 9.5 but we mustn't let it happen in Illinois. Be vigilant or be poor. I know I don't want to live on Aldi powdered milk in my old age. Stay safe and stay solvent.
OT- one of the best police officers you could ever ask to work with passed away last night.... Charles (Rocky) Elmer. Great cop, great human being!! RIP Rocky.. Than you for everything you did for your fellow officers and for the city of Chicago... God Bless you. Old 011 Dist Ranger
well more protester hmmm good job police officers . LT A G in 020th dist this is what work is all about when u start to work maybe know would know how to appreciate the men and woman who work on 2nd watch.
I heard McCarthy is keeping the frying pan as a souvenior (sp?).
Channel 9 News showing that they just cut 11 of the 12 loose.
All young, white, apparently nothing better to do all day, hugging each other, "showing solidarity with Quebec."
One of them was named "Kieran."
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Nobody saw any frying pans. "It was police using violence against the protesters."
They hope that their $85.00 lime-green hair streak will show up good on their $400 smartphone video....
These people have what are called "deluxe problems."
I stopped pulling the stuff out of the kitchen cabinets, banging on pots with spoons, etc., when I was about 3.
Is it something in the water?
If not, should we be putting something in the water?
soboringboringboring
Just who do these asshole think they are? When the Occupy Wall Street protests initially took off in New York almost half of Americans supported them. Just like about half of Americans supported the Tea Party. In New York they occupied a park and were protesting. But then later on they became belligerent and wouldn't listen to anyone. They just acted like they were right and if you disagreed then you were completely wrong.
Now they are complete idiots. Occupy Chicago, Occupy Nebraska, Occupy New Jersey, etc.... they don't have a message nor a mantra and thus are doomed.
good job officers. be careful out there and always be safe. don't let these low-life idiots get the best of you.
The 001st Dist did a awesome job, and it was nice to see some bosses 100x with balls
RIOT? I remember the riot that took place in the streets in 1992 after the Bulls won the championship. This skirmish on the sidewalk of the Mag Mile yesterday was hardly that.
010 has put it out that only 7 PO's allowed off on any day. Are the days of weekend skeleton crews over? That shit was gonna cause PO's to get hurt. But dont worry, the chosen ones (with no time on) will still find a way..........
Anonymous said...
Minor scuffle. No one hurt. Minor inconvenience...
6/07/2012 06:58:00 AM
"five officers injured"
Off topic but important. An article in the NYtimes from today details pension cuts being made to workers in 2 california cities. Scary thing is that these cuts passed and are not just for new hires. They voted to cut pensions for existing employees. We know this will inspire 9.5 but we mustn't let it happen in Illinois. Be vigilant or be poor. I know I don't want to live on Aldi powdered milk in my old age. Stay safe and stay solvent.
6/07/2012 11:27:00 AM
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California has no laws protecting pensions, unlike Illinois.Don't forget, Quinn tried to change with constitutional convention, which failed and can't be brought up again for 8 more years. A lot of these current bills are being presented knowing damn well they will be overturned in court. Gives the politician excuse he tried,when he returns to his constituents.
have seen what I thought might be remnant or two from NATO protesters in Lincoln Park- funny how they stand out as out-of-their element and kind of deflated. and for lack of better word, insecure about locals knowing who they really are cuz we'd probably not smile at 'em in the Walgreens?
>>>Anonymous said...
In 011 now, no more than 3 people off per day on weekends untill the end of the 8th peroid. Per XO Bay. Weekends include Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and some mondays. What's the point of working in the ghetto anymore, fuck this place.
6/07/2012 08:28:00 AM<<<
That is really going to backfire and drive morale down even further. People will be going on the medical doing nothing on days that they were denied off. Can you imagine what is going through somebody's mind as he/she listens to ghetto crap when they are thinking I should be at a kid's graduation or birthday party.
The only legit job action we can take is to check the MONEY BOX every time for overtime. If they do not let us take time off let them pay us. If it costs them they will hire more police.
Bottom line...
The black bloc group, the ones that were the antagonists of the NATO demonstrators were upset that they were 'finally' recognized for their illegal activities in Chicago, while the Cpd were lauded for their composure and professionalism.
So a few of the hard core stayed behind to try and leave Chicago, especially the Cpd with a black eye.
It was only a matter of time that the media once again reverted back to 'business as usual' and gave them air-time for their obvious nonsensical comments, i.e. 'police attacked us, we were peacefully protesting' blah, blah, blah.
Aside from McCarthy, no one else brought out the fact that five (5) coppers were injured by these 'peaceful marchers that weren't doing anything.'
We'll all be better off when these shitheads finally go back to their parents basements in all those other cities and continue to collect their unemployment checks.
Final Bottom Line...
Once again, GREAT job by ALL the CPD involved.
Yup...
"CHICAGO's FINEST!"
McCarthy on Channel 7 News now, saying five officers were injured yesterday, "and he's not going to tolerate it."
11 out of 12 arrestees were let go today. I don't know what kind of "not tolerate" that is.
No. 12, this Wagaman who allegedly threw the frying pan, is a real mean-looking bum. Great big baby pout on his mug.
Assholes.
Says these people were "darting out into traffic on Michigan Ave. One of them gets killed by a bus -- like this camera-seeking, Michael Moore-looking fat unshaven slob "Kiernan Arons" several TV stations showed, saying that the police were the ones looking for trouble -- it'd be a big tragedy, why didn't the city do something.
7 showed "Occupy video" of police subduing a fighting, struggling guy on the ground, putting on horrible "plastic handcuffs." They were right next to a police bike laying on its side, and Occupy apparently said that "police pulled the poor man off the bike."
Seeing as how it wasn't his, I certainly hope so. That'd be an Occupy souvenir, huh? I thought one of these f__ers would try that.
Assholes.
"Solidarity With Quebec," so go there and be solid. Real people have lives, others depending on them, family to take care of, things to do -- no one here owes you anything, no one has to know or care what you're talking about.
Assholes.
Oh -- again, bike helmets are not sufficient head protection for this kind of work. You're going to rely so much on this unit, you're going to keep throwing them in everyplace there's trouble, let them clip their riot helmets and face shields back on the carrier when they come out in case s__t starts flying again. That bike helmet is like a feather, just Styrofoam, so two helmets wouldn't be a weight problem.
For those officers on tv who were responding to the disturbance at Chase Bank downtown, please do not use your weapon to hold your hat. Not only is it unprofessional, it is extremely dangerous.
Anonymous said...
FYI Everyone needs to pray that they never come down with a serious illness during their career. The department will not take care of you! You will only get 365 days of limited duty, after that you will have to go on disability. Our disability sucks. You only get a 1yr of disability for every 4 yrs worked and up to a maximum of 5 yrs disability. So if you have less then 16yrs on the job you are fucked!
6/07/2012 08:15:00 AM
The City sent out a Benefits Bulletin to all sworn officers in April. It gave everyone the option of buying an additional amount of term life insurance from Prudential and/or Long Term Disability insurance that guaranteed people 60% of base annual earnings up to a maximum of $10,000 a month after satisfying a 180 day elimination period. Yow would presumably be on the medical roll then anyway.
Everyone got this, you too. It is likely on your dresser or kitchen table, perhaps unopened. It is a great deal for younger officers not yet vested in the pension. I carried it until I got 20 years in.
Call Prudential at 1-877-232-3619 for more info on the next open enrollment period. Enrollment this time ended May 8, 2012.
And yes, if you get sick or injured off duty you are in trouble. No police department I know of, or private company, takes care of non-work related illness or injury without the employee buying long term disability insurance.
Anonymous said...
>>>Anonymous said...
In 011 now, no more than 3 people off per day on weekends untill the end of the 8th peroid. Per XO Bay. Weekends include Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and some mondays. What's the point of working in the ghetto anymore, fuck this place.
6/07/2012 08:28:00 AM<<<
You ever heard of the Fillmore Flu?
Another protest today at banks, one Chase downtown, missed the address, but TV showed a bunch of people who went into the lobby/front of business floor, waved some signs, made a few speeches about how they wanted the big banks to renegotiate transit funding deals with the state, and then left. Forget the group's name.
Police were there, watchful but relaxed, protesters were vocal but nonaggressive, bank heard them out and they then left.
That we can live with. They're probably right about the banks, too. Chase ain't my buddy either.
"have seen what I thought might be remnant or two from NATO protesters in Lincoln Park- funny how they stand out as out-of-their element and kind of deflated. and for lack of better word, insecure about locals knowing who they really are cuz we'd probably not smile at 'em in the Walgreens?"
--6/07/2012 03:49:00 PM
Yeah, one in Oak Park who didn't know where he was and couldn't understand the concept of direction, another one by Irving Park and I-90 "Pigeonland" underpass, looking freaked by the traffic. One here, one there.
Great these assholes won 12 million in the last court case because the moron judges threw out the charges paving a way for their bullshit lawsuits. The taxpayers should be protesting the judges who freely allow them to do what ever the hell they want and put the burden on us the innocent taxpayers who actually work for a living.
When will the judges see this is how they funnel the money received in lawsuits to pay for their cause and not having to work. It's a form of welfare we are paying for.
They are so mad the Nato went smooth and they are miserable with the lack of lawsuits resulting from it, so now the are causing disturbances and trying so hard to get arrested while their team of attys. stand by and wait.
Wake the fuck up !!!!!!!!!
Another tactic they use is pushing police or elbowing them or stomping on their feet and ONLY when police react they start filming , claiming they did nothing wrong. They are liars and scammers who don't even want to work.
I'm sick of everyone catering to them and disrupting innocent citizens lives, get out of our city!!!!!!!!!!!!! And back under ur rocks
And once again FOX and WGN stream one sided stories, interviewing only these nasty people. They are all a bunch of liars. Like the morons who said, what frying pan I didn't see one , even though its clearly visible on the footage, and not one media person challenging the ridiculous comments.
Bridgeport took care of business. Way to go!!!
Fto Rocky Elmer RIP. You were a gentlemen and fine officer. it was a honor working with you. You will be missed.
I turned off all news do not watch any major stations. Quick glance online of chgo. breaking news, that's it.
Can't stand these news casters, so illiterate they can't even read with out messing up the stories and stuttering over their words. How hard is it to read a promter with HUGE LETTERS
Off topic but important. An article in the NYtimes from today details pension cuts being made to workers in 2 california cities. Scary thing is that these cuts passed and are not just for new hires. They voted to cut pensions for existing employees. We know this will inspire 9.5 but we mustn't let it happen in Illinois. Be vigilant or be poor. I know I don't want to live on Aldi powdered milk in my old age. Stay safe and stay solvent.
6/07/2012 11:27:00 AM
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Also remember that these politicians (Daley, Madigan, Rahm, Quinn) -
Are their pensions going to be affected?
Quinn tried to change with constitutional convention, which failed and can't be brought up again for 8 more years. A lot of these current bills are being presented knowing damn well they will be overturned in court. Gives the politician excuse he tried,when he returns to his constituents.
6/07/2012 03:47:00 PM
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Illinois Constitution can only be opened Once every twenty years. And must be put to a popular vote in order to ask the public if they want it opened.
Understanding the Illinois Constitution:
http://www.isba.org/sites/default/files/teachers/publications/constbook.pdf
Here's "mean-looking bum" Gary C. Wagaman.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-mug-photogallery,0,5488047.photogallery
Tribune reporters
1:00 p.m. CDT, June 7, 2012
"A protester charged with hitting a Chicago police officer over the head with a frying pan Wednesday night on North Michigan Avenue was ordered held today in lieu of $50,000 bond.
"Gary C. Wagaman, a 30-year-old Michigan resident, appeared in Cook County bond court this afternoon wearing blue jeans and a dark blue T-shirt that was ripped open beneath his left shoulder.
"He shook his head as he walked away from the bench after Judge James R. Brown announced the bond amount.
"Wagaman is one of 12 protesters who were arrested after a scuffle with police on North Michigan Avenue at Ohio Street that left five officers injured, including the officer Wagaman allegedly hit with the frying pan, authorities said.
"Wagaman is charged with aggravated battery to a peace officer, a felony.
"...prosecutors said in court today that he struck the officer with the pan, causing its handle to break off."
"The officer had gotten off his bike to help with arrests when he was struck and suffered bruises and swelling on his head, prosecutors said. Police said he was wearing a bike helmet."
[Keep telling ya those bike helmets are inadequate for these situations.]
"Police said some of the other people who were arrested allegedly tried to stop officers from arresting Wagaman.
[Called "Obstructing Justice" downstate. Good for 18 mos -- 2 yrs IDOC.]
"Stuart Smith, an attorney who represented Wagaman in court today, told the judge that Wagaman graduated from Eastern Michigan University in 2005 with a double major in journalism and political science.
"Wagaman moved to Chicago after having trouble finding work and is now working at Pizzeria Due at North Wabash Avenue and East Ontario Street..."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-protesters-arrested-on-michigan-avenue-20120606,0,2576311.story
"I say we take the streets this week," says his Twitter page.
http://twitter.com/#!/garycwagaman
Mel Gibson said...
No accident the retired numbers were not published. The city has long had folks in the FOP willing to do their dirty work. No valid reason the FOP did not publish the names of retired folks.
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Hey,Goof Do you look under your car every morning before you get in it.What possible could the FOP gain by not publishing the names. I called the FOP and they publish the lists when they get them from the department. Please come back and explain your conspiracy theory.
6/07/2012 11:31:00 AM
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And just where do you people think the FOP gets that list from:
Non other than that Daley Hack Tracey Ladner of Human Resources.
She thinks that she runs this department.
And she might as well because Rahm and McDrunkin let her get away with everything.
"California has no laws protecting pensions, unlike Illinois.Don't forget, Quinn tried to change with constitutional convention, which failed and can't be brought up again for 8 more years."
Not quite. A Con-Con can only be brought every 20 years. Article XIV requires that Illinois voters be asked at least every 20 years if they desire a constitutional convention. In 1988 the measure failed 900,109 votes for and 2,727,144 against the measure. 1,069,939 other voters chose neither option. In 2008, the measure was also defeated by a wide margin, 1,493,203 votes for and 3,062,724 against from a total of 5,539,172 votes cast. 983,245 voters chose neither option. The next one can happen in 2028.
Anonymous said...
In 011 now, no more than 3 people off per day on weekends untill the end of the 8th peroid. Per XO Bay. Weekends include Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and some mondays. What's the point of working in the ghetto anymore, fuck this place.
6/07/2012 08:28:00 AM
Sorry Office, you won't get any sympathy from me. I remember a young 011th district officer telling me about the bad working conditions over lunch (this is when they made you stand on a drug corner or a corner where a homicide or shooting occurred all by yourself). I asked him "well what are you doing about it? Are people still bringing in heads and revenue for the city?". His reply "oh yeah, I will continue to work. I bring in 2 to 3 heads a night and a couple of impounds a week".
So there you have it. As long as this organization can screw officers over and there is no negative feedback on their end, the working conditions in 011 will continue to deteriorate. AND YOU HAVE NO ONE TO BLAME BUT YOURSELF!
P.S.- I am much older and in my district they are very lenient in allowing officers time due.
Anonymous said...
>>>Anonymous said...
In 011 now, no more than 3 people off per day on weekends untill the end of the 8th peroid. Per XO Bay. Weekends include Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and some mondays. What's the point of working in the ghetto anymore, fuck this place.
6/07/2012 08:28:00 AM<<<
That is really going to backfire and drive morale down even further. People will be going on the medical doing nothing on days that they were denied off. Can you imagine what is going through somebody's mind as he/she listens to ghetto crap when they are thinking I should be at a kid's graduation or birthday party.
The only legit job action we can take is to check the MONEY BOX every time for overtime. If they do not let us take time off let them pay us. If it costs them they will hire more police.
6/07/2012 03:55:00 PM
011th district is made up of mostly young officers. These young officers will continue to go out there and bring in numbers.
O.T. I would like to thank the Robbins police officer who stopped me today for a traffic violation. I appreciate your professional courtesy,sir. Thank you again.
Retired CPD.
****OFF TOPIC****
Tell me about the officer who got caught in lockup giving & performing oral sex on a prisoner...some male-on-male bonding!!!!
Sounds like these lemmings need to Occupy a jail cell for assaulting members of the CPD.
I hope that Occupy asshole Wagaman gets sent to Cook County jail when he can't post bond so he can mingle with the other miscreants who don't know how to behave themselves. Guess he can't find a job with his political science and journalism degrees. His parents must be very proud of their useless spawn.
Rocky Elmer.he was my fto in 024..great cop and a true gentleman.anyone know what happened?
What a bunch of idiots. Yep. Really making a big difference. Especially in Canada.
Anonymous said...
None of these fuckheads has a real job or probably a place to live. Ma and Dad tossed them out a long time ago. I agree with being strict in dealing with these assholes, but we all know they will file lawsuits and get money. The lawyers getting at least half. The $12 mil the group from a few years ago got almost half went to lawyers. What a fucking joke. And the jokes on us cops and taxpayers.
6/07/2012 09:16:00 AM
Just curious. What did the recipients of these funds do with them? Did they donate them to 'the cause' or did they give it to the poor? Did they buy food for the needy? Did they donate it to someone who lost their house in a foreclosure?
I would bet that money didn't go anywhere except in their own pockets. Capitalist consumers at heart.
I wonder how much Andy gives to charitable causes every year? Where does he live, Winnetka?
--chirp--
OT- RIP Rocky Elmer. A true gentleman and one of the best Policemen I ever had the luck to work with has move on to the next world. May God bless him and his
Very sad news on the passing of Rocky Elmer RIP. One Helll of a copper and a huge loss to the CPD. 016 days will also become a much worse place without his vigilant patrolling.
California DOES have pension protection thru state constitution. I know cuz I worked there for 4 years. Check CALPERS website. Theres going to be a court battle just like in Illinois. Wait and see...
CPD lost one good cop early this morning.
RIP ROCK. It was a pleasure knowing you and working along side you during my time in 016. Good times and lots of laughs in the workout room before roll call. Way to early for you to leave us Office but God must have a better plan for you. You will be missed.
Condolences to your family.
Former 016.
Match them metal for metal. They throw a frying pan so you give them a high velocity, hot lead injection.
OT-Be advised that IPRA is going thru old cases in which they can identify "patterns" of behavior in officers. Cases being reopened and charges being filed. Its happening quite frequently. Mayor wants to thin the herd thru terminations. Its a tidal wave and getting bigger by the month. Be careful.
Off the subject, but how come Lisa Madigan is not prosecuting the firemen in the big money phony mileage scandal? If I recall my academy law classes, the statute of limitations is doubled for public officials who use their public positions to commit a crime and the clock doesn't start ticking until the alleged offenders leave their positions of trust. Hello Lisa are you there? Perhaps arbitrator Benn could answer the question. How bout it Edmund?
OK I have to ask WHAT was a PROTESTER doing with a frying pan at a PROTEST?? Now signs.. flags.. things like that are the normal for a PEACEFUL protest.. FRYING PANS are from a group LOOKING to hurt POLICE .. No two ways about it..
http://tinyurl.com/746ycjt
Last night in Racine, Wisconsin, while demanding jobs for the unemployed, Jesse Jackson decided to slam job creating gun dealers and called for a march on gun shops all over the country.
I'm more concerned about not needing to change constitution to void contracts/pensions...
"Federal and Illinois laws make possible bankruptcy for local governments. Chapter 9 of the Federal Bankruptcy Code was created during the Great Depression, when hundreds of cities and towns were going broke, to allow local units of government to fall under the protection of federal bankruptcy courts. In Illinois, the Local Government Financial Planning and Supervision Act sets out the details for local governments."
OT
Heard the Super went nuts today at the CompStat about the Detective Division not fully integrated with the districts..Dean sent out a hasty email that it will be done by TOMORROW.
Hey Didn't Dean detail an Area Five female LT to run the integration?? and she is still detailed, Im sure with a take home car.
WHAT A JOKE
these nuts should be occupying mental institutions or go back to mommy and daddy's basement.
Anonymous said...
"have seen what I thought might be remnant or two from NATO protesters in Lincoln Park- funny how they stand out as out-of-their element and kind of deflated. and for lack of better word, insecure about locals knowing who they really are cuz we'd probably not smile at 'em in the Walgreens?"
--6/07/2012 03:49:00 PM
Yeah, one in Oak Park who didn't know where he was and couldn't understand the concept of direction, another one by Irving Park and I-90 "Pigeonland" underpass, looking freaked by the traffic. One here, one there.
6/07/2012 04:51:00 PM
Funny, because not long ago I saw a guy beyond the concrete barrier in the wooded area right along the Taylor Street exit off 94. He was in black and it looked like he was coming out of the trees or just walked down the exit ramp. Either way he looked real outta place...so I called in on him.
It would seem to me that deadly force is in order if someone attempts to injure a police officer while armed with a dangerous weapon. Fuck them.
Anonymous said...
OT-Be advised that IPRA is going thru old cases in which they can identify "patterns" of behavior in officers. Cases being reopened and charges being filed. Its happening quite frequently. Mayor wants to thin the herd thru terminations. Its a tidal wave and getting bigger by the month. Be careful.
6/07/2012 08:33:00 PM
The problem is, there are a handful of officers who receive the same exact complaints from different people time after time. Racking up 20, 30, 50, all not sustained for one reason or another. You've got to admit, it's more than a bit suspicious. Do your job correctly, and even if you get a beef, you should be alright in the end. Start racking up double digit beefs for the exact same thing, maybe you need to be culled. Just a thought.
No offense... But why any of you make arrests or do anything pro active is just beyind me. Why get yourself jammed up so the dumbocrats can funnel more law suit money into their greedy little pockets.
Some cops just never learn.
OT-Be advised that IPRA is going thru old cases in which they can identify "patterns" of behavior in officers.
Well when you just answer your calls and wave at the rats you have nothing to worry about. I havent had a beef in over 12 years.
For those officers on tv who were responding to the disturbance at Chase Bank downtown, please do not use your weapon to hold your hat. Not only is it unprofessional, it is extremely dangerous.
6/07/2012 04:38:00 PM
Sorry guy. I was only doing what I saw our department's former number two exempt rank do. Remember the published photo of downtown EB and gator bradley?
Anonymous said...
OK I have to ask WHAT was a PROTESTER doing with a frying pan at a PROTEST?? Now signs.. flags.. things like that are the normal for a PEACEFUL protest.. FRYING PANS are from a group LOOKING to hurt POLICE .. No two ways about it..
6/07/2012 09:19:00 PM
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You're not very familiar with the "casserole" protest in Chile and Montreal are ya?
cry babies. waaah waaah waaah! stinky too.
If you looked up police officer in the dictionary, Rocky's picture would be there as the finest example. The world has lost a great person and even greater policeman.
Concerning the Inspector General and CFD. If firemen committed a crime weren't they supposed to be prosecuted?Does a Labor agreement granting arbitration regarding disciplinary matters supersede a criminal investigation? If the fire department's investigation revealed criminal activity isn't the CFD Internal Affairs Division required to report this to the Police Dept and Anita Alvarez? Isn't our lawyer Inspector General required to do the same? Isn't there a legal requirement for these people to do so?...is anyone home?
well
i would think a frypan could be as damaging as a hit in the head with hammer ( ask any husband who blew the check on drinking and partying) :)
it assault with a deadly weapon
and should be prosecuted and held for medical bills as well
i'm sure over the years have seen quite a few of those calls:)
plus if they impeding the flow of traffic along the walk or street
then they are infringing on other's rights to use the street in a lawful matter
the idea was "right"
just the way they went about it was wrong
i would like to think with all free advice they get from the grassroots organizations
they would have known that
thank you
6/07/2012 09:10:00 AM
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Good grief, is the above post even written in English? What the hell IS that?
OT-Be advised that IPRA is going thru old cases in which they can identify "patterns" of behavior in officers. Cases being reopened and charges being filed. Its happening quite frequently. Mayor wants to thin the herd thru terminations. Its a tidal wave and getting bigger by the month. Be careful.
6/07/2012 08:33:00 PM
Of course, it's just a coincidence that our contract is about to be negotiated.
"Protesters said they were showing solidarity for the hundreds arrested protesting tuition hikes in Quebec, Canada." Seems like that's a different group than the Occupy people.
OT-Be advised that IPRA is going thru old cases in which they can identify "patterns" of behavior in officers. Cases being reopened and charges being filed. Its happening quite frequently. Mayor wants to thin the herd thru terminations. Its a tidal wave and getting bigger by the month. Be careful.
Half the jag offs at OPS cant read anyway. Political hacks themselves who got in on a solid phone call. Its like pooky investigating your CR#.
Anonymous said...
cry babies. waaah waaah waaah! stinky too.
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Haha, there's a certain bike po from 1st pictured all over their facebook holding a YOU STINK sign and a picture of soap. Classic!
onymous said...
Concerning the Inspector General and CFD. If firemen committed a crime weren't they supposed to be prosecuted?Does a Labor agreement granting arbitration regarding disciplinary matters supersede a criminal investigation? If the fire department's investigation revealed criminal activity isn't the CFD Internal Affairs Division required to report this to the Police Dept and Anita Alvarez? Isn't our lawyer Inspector General required to do the same? Isn't there a legal requirement for these people to do so?...is anyone home?
6/08/2012 12:01:00 AM
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The criminal investigation supersedes everything else. There was more than enough to fire these guys because the standard to do so is lower than the standard for a criminal conviction. But the situation is mind-boggling. These guys committed crimes; but they are not getting neither fired nor prosecuted.
6/07/2012 08:28:00 AM
Sorry Office, you won't get any sympathy from me. I remember a young 011th district officer telling me about the bad working conditions over lunch (this is when they made you stand on a drug corner or a corner where a homicide or shooting occurred all by yourself). I asked him "well what are you doing about it? Are people still bringing in heads and revenue for the city?". His reply "oh yeah, I will continue to work. I bring in 2 to 3 heads a night and a couple of impounds a week".
So there you have it. As long as this organization can screw officers over and there is no negative feedback on their end, the working conditions in 011 will continue to deteriorate. AND YOU HAVE NO ONE TO BLAME BUT YOURSELF!
P.S.- I am much older and in my district they are very lenient in allowing officers time due.
6/07/2012 06:10:00 PM
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Some officers have a hard time grasping this concept. But you have a valid point. If the supervisors are not playing fair then some police officers will take some of their power away--by not fully supporting the supervisors.
OK I have to ask WHAT was a PROTESTER doing with a frying pan at a PROTEST?? Now signs.. flags.. things like that are the normal for a PEACEFUL protest.. FRYING PANS are from a group LOOKING to hurt POLICE .. No two ways about it..
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Its not unusual for protesters to bring aluminum pots and pans with them to protests to make noise with.
Perhaps the use of the term frying pan is a bit of artistic license. Protesters usually get something a lot lighter and cheaper to bang on to make noise. And aluminum pots and pans make more noise with less effort than a frying pan would.
"Occupy Riot"
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Riot? Will it be a riot every time some occupy moron gives a dirty look to a cop? A goofball with a frying pan farts and it's suddenly a riot.
Listen, it isn't a riot until at least 8 square blocks burn to the ground with some bodies inside and the police are driven back by gunfire and have to call for reinforcements citywide and the governor is contemplating calling on the National Guard.
Other than that it is just a skirmish.
"You're not very familiar with the "casserole" protest in Chile and Montreal are ya?"
--6/07/2012 11:03:00 PM
Apparently not -- and I would venture to say that that unfamiliarity speaks well of the poster.
Anonymous said...
I turned off all news do not watch any major stations. Quick glance online of chgo. breaking news, that's it.
Can't stand these news casters, so illiterate they can't even read with out messing up the stories and stuttering over their words. How hard is it to read a promter with HUGE LETTERS
6/07/2012 05:27:00 PM
I'm speechless. Wow. Illiterate?
Anonymous said...
California DOES have pension protection thru state constitution. I know cuz I worked there for 4 years. Check CALPERS website. Theres going to be a court battle just like in Illinois. Wait and see...
6/07/2012 08:22:00 PM
I thought CALPERS went bankrupt after Enron.
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