Perception Problem?
- Amid media reports highlighting Chicago’s rise in homicides and shootings so far this year, police Superintendent Garry McCarthysaid Tuesday he is facing “a perception issue” when it comes to crime.
Speaking to the Union League Club in the Loop, McCarthy pointed to declines in homicides and shootings in recent weeks but said he’s having a hard time getting that message to register with the public.
“Would anybody believe me if I told you that murders in the city were down 17 percent in the last month? Probably not, right?,” McCarthy told about 100 people at the breakfast. “Would anybody believe me if I told you that shootings are down in the last two months, 10 weeks? Would anybody believe if I told you that we had less shootings on Memorial Day this year than we did last year? Probably not.
"We’re having a perception issue. And perhaps it’s my problem. Perhaps it’s my fault. I don’t know how to change this.”
That quote....
- Would anybody believe if I told you that we had less shootings on Memorial Day this year than we did last year? Probably not.
It bothered us, so we did a little research, and found this on the ABC site (29 May):
- Chicago's homicide rate at this point of the year is up nearly 50 percent. The vast majority of those homicides are gang-related.
"It's not OK that we had 53 shootings last week, but that 53 shootings is the same exact number of shootings that we had last year, so this is not a new problem. What it is is a new is the solution that we are applying to it," McCarthy said.
He's playing the numbers game again and no one is calling him on it (besides our readers and us). Claiming shootings are down on Memorial Day, but admitting the year-to-year comparison is exactly the same.
And the "perception" thing? We've argued before that the Supernintendo isn't responsible for each and every shooting that occurs on his watch. Even the commanders he attempts to blame at CompStat meetings aren't going to be stopping each and every shooting as shorthanded as they are. But McCarthy pretends he has some magical formula and a whiz-bang computer system that still isn't predicting shit and won't address the elephant in the room - that we are shorthanded, and badly so.
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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For the 10 dead and 46 wounded last weekend it is not a
'Perception Problem' it is a 'Penetration Problem'
OT---
Two of the coppers caught up in ticket gate [Paul Roque & Horst Hegewald] were ordered reinstated by the police board. Suspended without pay since Oct 5.
Have you noticed how the target keeps moving too as we bounce around first talking about "homicides" being down several months ago and now that that is obviously proven not to be true it is the "number of shootings" that have risen in the debate.
It's like a blur going back and forth with this guy. When you get called out on both of them then look over here at "overall crime"... see it's down. And even that a while back we had talk of "violent crime" being down instead.
Subtle but significant changes in the words.
Seriously?
Q: What's rising faster than the so-called new jobs the politicians claim to be creating in Illinois?
A: FOID applications. Look it up.
1.3 million and rising as of Jan 2011. Almost keeping pace with the Food Stamp caseload growth in Illinois.
The man at the new gun shop in McHenry can't keep enough 9mm and .40 rounds in stock.
The 9's are going out the door at the rate of 30,000 rounds a month I'm told.
Funny thing how the state with the strictest gun laws has a problem with shootings isn't it? Maybe we're doing it wrong.
OT
A special thank you shout out to those (former) Area 3 detectives! It's been awhile since I worked up north, and with the merging of the areas I got to again witness Area 3 detectives doing what they do best! Way to torpedo the case even before an ASA got involved! You guys are the KINGS of the 19P! LAZIEST detectives in the city! Man do I miss Area 4.
The crime is all in our heads, er, um, perception. This is almost as lame as when Daley blamed it on suburban kids texting.
come on now SCC. you know better..you reach a point in the department and its all political.the great ole bosses are long gone. guy s trying to paint a better picture.the truth is a bitter pill that the pols will not directly address.yes, we are short.but why are these areas killing zone? why is there no respect for anything? we are not being invaded..the enemy is within.
heheh..political weasel words like asking what the definition of is, is.
Hey look. He didn't say that crime was down in this speech. He was asking if anyone would believe him if he said it was. right? Check it out..
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“Would anybody believe me if I told you that murders in the city were down 17 percent in the last month? Probably not, right?,” McCarthy told about 100 people at the breakfast. “Would anybody believe me if I told you that shootings are down in the last two months, 10 weeks? Would anybody believe if I told you that we had less shootings on Memorial Day this year than we did last year? Probably not
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Would anyone believe me if I told you that I have a unicorn that craps rainbow colored candy corn? Probably not right..
Here, take this crap with whip creme on it and call it a sundae. Just cause it stinks DONT MAKE IT SO!!!!!!!!!
Sheeple of chitcago don't believe your lying eyes. Just walk around downtown and pray you don't get mugged by some young people just walking around having fun.
SSC you’re being far too critical!
To Mcfoolish he does have a perception problem. He wants us to believe his lies and we’re not – that is indeed a problem for him. He is being completely honest in that statement.
New lies for old or is it old lies for new!
This clown and his BS are ridiculous!
Even the media is having difficulty regurgitating his BS lies.
Things were much better under J Fed!
Bring him back!
God help Us!
skibbity hibbity bibbitty bop.
slim slam and a little flim flam.
shamma lamma ding dong.
woogy woogy woo woo woo...
im from new york and when i says crime is down, "i means it"
SCC , i think i got one (or just cracking myself up): "MUGnificant Mile".
Hire more Police Officers. We only have a total of 7,300 Sworn Police Officers. This includes IOD and Medical.We are 5,000 Police Officers short of what Mayor Emanuel & Superintendent McCarthy publicly state that we have.This is a public safety issue for the law-abiding taxpayers of Chicago. It is a Police Officer safety issue for all of the Chicago Police Officers who work the streets of Chicago. Of course there will be the screams of disagreement from those brown-nosing asskissing liars,who do not want any attention brought upon this issue because the house of cards which they have built upon a foundation of lies & corruption and monetary theft will collapse faster than an imploded building.
How about a goal of "no shootings/ murders"? I get that it's a big city with a lot of pieces of shit. There will be some violence. But spinning it as a perception issue or touting it as a victory to be slightly under last year's totals, is moronic. Now McPerception looks like a horse's ass.
These guys get marching orders from the Civic Federation, everything talked about by 9.5 and his appointies is in the Civic Federation research reports. I found this on the police deptartment, it reads:
POLICE DEPARTMENT
The purpose of the Chicago Police Department is to protect the lives and property of the citizens
of Chicago and to enforce the City‘s laws. The Police Department is divided into five Areas and
a Central Control Group, each of which contains two to five districts. Each district is subdivided
into sectors which are further subdivided into beats. As a whole, the City contains 281 beats, 75
sectors and 25 districts.64 The Department has a police station for each district plus the
department‘s headquarters.
For FY2011 the City of Chicago appropriated $1.4 billion for the Police Department including
the Chicago Alternative Policing Strategy (CAPS) program. This amount does not include
employee pensions, fringe benefits or other indirect costs that are paid through the Finance
General appropriation for each fund. Approximately 91.8% of the FY2011 appropriation is from
the Corporate Fund. The Chicago Midway Airport and Chicago O‘Hare Airport Funds
contributed $5.1 million and $14.3 million respectively. Another $95.7 million or 6.8% is
anticipated from grant funding.
Fund Appropriation % of Total
Corporate Fund
Police Department $ 1,291,949,503 91.5%
CAPS Implementation Office $ 4,771,924 0.3%
Sub-total Corporate Fund $ 1,296,721,427 91.8%
Chicago Midway Airport Fund $ 5,061,055 0.4%
Chicago O'Hare Airport Fund $ 14,333,230 1.0%
Other Grant Fund* $ 95,696,000 6.8%
Total $ 1,411,811,712 100.0%
*Includes 2011 anticipated grant funds and 2010 carryover.
Source: City of Chicago, FY2011 Appropriations Ordinance, pp. 5-10 and 460.
City of Chicago Police Department by Fund
FY2011 Appropriation
64 City of Chicago, FY2011 Budget, Program and Budget Summary, p. 147.
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The FY2011 Corporate Fund appropriation for the Police Department was nearly $1.3 billion, or
39.7% of total Corporate Fund expenditures. The appropriation does not include payments for
some personnel-related benefits such as pensions and healthcare costs. Those costs are included
in the Finance General appropriation, which was nearly $642.3 million or 19.7% of Corporate
Fund expenditures for all departments.
Department Appropriation % of Total
Police Department $ 1,296,721,427 39.7%
Fire Department $ 483,423,494 14.8%
Streets and Sanitation $
http://www.civicfed.org/sites/default/files/Recommendations%20for%20a%20Financially%20Sustainable%20City%20of%20Chicago.pdf
Anyone can win the game if they're allowed to move the goalpost.
It is such a gem to see him select one day--Memorial Day--to compare year-over-year. Why even waste the time to look it up to see if he's wrong. This day over that day. These 27 weeks over those 27 weeks.
Thank God the weather has nothing to do with it.
Do all of these assholes go to some secret class titled "The Art of Bullshit' ?
Seriously--who could possibly come up with this shit?
Maybe McPinnochio needs to go the the 'Magician's Academy', because he's not fooling anybody.
Or, more appropriately, 'Clown College'. Oh, I forgot--he's the dean there.
016 going up.....
This just in....
2 shot in the head...
1 dead on Henderson
1 (unk cond.) from School...
Its coming!!! or maybe its already here...
1st watch
All the states attorneys at 26 Street know how to do is make a plea deal.
There are a couple of big problems there - a lot of the attys are either on the take from the bad guys, or have had their families threatened so they comply with the gangs demands.
My wife woked there for about 6 weeks after becoming an attorney. She wanted to do something, and she had clerked in County Atty offices elsewhere in another major city in law school. So she knows how a real prosecutor's office works, and almost immediately, she noticed something different here. She noticed that certain prosecutors were literally acting like defense attys, and looking for holes in cases or excuses to dismiss, as opposed to trying to nail these bastards.
After a few weeks, We went out to dinner with a couple of the attys whom I believe to be straight, and they filled us in. They said a lot of the prosecutors have gone out to their cars to find envelopes under the wipers with pictures of their home & kids. Some have been approached on CTA busses or trains, or even on the street they live, with people delivering a "message" to drop all charges, plead down the charges, or request minimal sentencing. Usually the message is delivered with a gun, and includes mentioning loved ones names.
Others, they've told us, are believed to be rec'g payments from either the gangs or the gangs shyster lawyers.
Even though it was a great resume builder for her, I told my wife she absolutely had to quit, before the gangs targeted her (and me). It was the best decision we ever made. She now works a boring, mundane, but high-paying job doing transactional work that will never put her in harm's way. And we are saving as much as we can right now, to get the F out of Chicago and into the suburbs the first chance we get. Thank goodness both her firm & my company have a presence in Lake County.
6/12/2012 07:59:00 AM
Did anybody read this under "Terror Charges"? Just enough real info to be believable, but so incredible.
I just thought they were inept over there.
If we didn't believe you when you and the mayor said that you closed the beaches because it was too hot near the cool water, then no. No we won't believe you when there are over forty shootings on a weekend and you say we're safer because crime is down. You throw numbers and percentages that you pull out of thin air and expect people to believe it?
You lie. The mayor lies.
Mary Schmich headline is talking about crime "spilling over" into Streeterville ... and she says that "Chicago remains the beautiful, vibrant, complex city it has always been"
I can't stand the Ostrich-thing. And I had to reply. So here's a cross-post:
Weekend violence "spills over" into Streeterville ... NO it did not "spill" anywhere.
This was no excess of crime from other neighborhoods that spilled into Downtown like water sloshed out of your bath. This is on-going, deliberate "hunting" for victims where the softest victims are most easily found. It's methodical, it's deliberate, it's vicious and it probably has a racial component. It's mob action plain and simple. And the mob enjoys what its doing ... that should really make all of us stop and think.
Hire more Police? Yes. Leave the City? Possibly. Protect yourself when you go out? From mobs ... how?
If the City doesn't take swift and throrugh action, it is saying that we ALL are potential victims ... that it can't and won't do anything to help us. Chicago is telling us that a new Mayor and Police Chief are bankrupt of ideas ... they can't even begin to keep Chicago together.
"Pay No Attention to the Man Behind the Curtain"
Wow! I can't believe this moron even made this statement. Wow! I'm so stunned I can't even think of a proper retort.
OT:
Can someone look into the 30+ people on medical/IOD in 003? Almost an entire watch of people on medical/IOD!
Something is seriously wrong when you have 10 people per watch on medical/IOD.
What we have is a McPinnochio problem!
Not to mention a Rahmahemroid problem.
Yeah, tell the people who got mobbed by animals it's a 'perception' problem.
The guy from the suburbs who got his orbital bone broken, along with several teeth, said the incident was terrifying and that he probably wouldn't go downtown anymore.
What happened to McGoofy's stance just a few short weeks ago that 'everyone of these shootings has a 'victim' behind it'?
Now it's all about 'perception'?
FUCK YOU GARRY! YOU SUCK WORSE THAN WEIS!, not counting the Cozzi incident.
SCC..... You forgot to and one last statement. Cameras don't arrest people, Police Officers do.
The cited interview was played on WLS this a.m. and McCarthy was nailed on a question about the three reported wildings in 018. McCarthy's response was very interesting because he seemed to play off the attack on the Red Line saying that was on the CTA. Apparently he still thinks he is in New York where the Public Trans System is policed separately though by the same police department.
016 going up.....
This just in....
2 shot in the head...
1 dead on Henderson
1 (unk cond.) from School...
Its coming!!! or maybe its already here...
1st watch
6/13/2012 05:34:00 AM
Where have you been? 016 is turning ghetto faster than copper's snatching up overtime! You goofs in EP or the circle think you live in some utopia, but yet the savage beast lives right next door. Northwest Highway is a section 8 filled playground for the beast. Have fun!
O.T. New plan to staff the ranks on the weekends...... deny all elective time off from Thursday's to Monday's. Then those people who are RDO to work in these shit areas. Sure deny my time when I need to use it, the ask me to work my weekends in the shit. A BIG FU !!!!!!
Chalkie was so mad first shooting to head didn't work he came back an hr later and tried again. Best part was female po getting rd for hospitalization on scene. No clue.
as long as the citizens are willing to accept the law breaking,the cpd can only go thru the motion. even though they appropriate money for cpd, dont mean the dept. gets the money. how about all the revs, another group of glory hounds. also lets not forget the court system, anita. less we forget the news media. it is pathetic! well maybe like the cubs, wait till next year.
I was at the event. He bragged that crime in the neighborhoods was down during NATO because there were 15% more cops in the neighborhoods. Sounds like an argument for 15% more hiring.
A special thank you shout out to those (former) Area 3 detectives! It's been awhile since I worked up north, and with the merging of the areas I got to again witness Area 3 detectives doing what they do best! Way to torpedo the case even before an ASA got involved! You guys are the KINGS of the 19P! LAZIEST detectives in the city! Man do I miss Area 4
wish I knew what you are talking about
OT: Last night on the ABC news they stated we are down 2,500 officers compared to 10 years back. That is a lot of F'n cops to be down. 2,500!!!!
If they can afford to pay OT then they can afford more officers.
Lowest crime weekend? During NATO. Why? Days off canceled meant every district was flooded with police in addition to the huge contingent downtown. You know, the amount of officers that were there about three years ago before the mass exodus/hiring freeze began.
I can't believe you guys missed it. McBigguy sloved the wilding problem. We don't need more police officers, it's hats! The police isn't wearing their hats.
A new strategy is being developed to supply the Rev's with almost real, paper police hats. When the shit hits the fan a call will go out for volunteers to put on their paper hats and walk Michigan Avenue. Problem solved!
The benefit is all volunteers can keep their hats.
Good article by Kass. Victim of the beating Sunday (Asian doctor) wondering what these tweenagers were doing out at 10:00pm on Sunday. Pretty much everyone asking the same question. Are there any responsible adults? Who comes to court with them?
How about dropping off any curfew violators at the "involved" churches where they can administer a sermon to parent and child about what is appropriate behavior. That is if they can find a responsible adult, if they can't they get to keep them. Reverends know just what needs to be done, dontcha know.
If I got as much money as he does, I think I could fudge my statements a little too..
As long as no officers are available to take reports, crime statistics will drop. Very few citizens will wait for police service for more than a few minutes.
AP "Living in Chicago's Gang Occupied Neighborhoods"
http://landing.newsinc.com/apvideo/home.html?f=AP
Can't hide it no mo'
Start holding the strawbuyer of those street guns responsible for their use in crimes.
OT - Diid one F2 bike cop from 023/019 actually write 130 tickets last weekend ?
Wow! Nothing like giving the city tons of revenue when they are trying to take our pensions!
Or is she so desperately trying to get on the city bike unit?
I love how he compares us to New York. He sites that NY has 3x s the population and the same homicide numbers. Isn't that a tacit admisssion that we need the same numbers of Officers as NY? I think he has lost control.
017 is also burning to the ground--- car thefts and burglaries up as well as the usual gangbanger nonsense--- multiple shootings and already 5 homicides--- a skeleton crew of coppers out there on all 3 watches in both 016 and 017 with no relief in sight--- no bid openings anywhere--- zone one is like candyland for these shitheads to drive into and steal to their hearts content--- the coppers who are out there just go from one job to the next with little time to be proactive--- and now more people are being plucked out of the district daily for all the details leaving us with even less--- open up some damn bid spots up north....
McDrunk gets the BIG $$$$$$, let him take the heat for the ballerina mayor at whose pleasure he serves.
The mayor lies, and McDrunk lies at the behest of his boss.
The roof top garden at city hall does so well because of all the Bovine Excrement produced on the 5th floor.
Garys other favorite line he uses on rush street is would you believe me if i told you I have a 12" schlong. Because the perception is i dont. This one works on the ladies all the time.
Fat or Pregnant?
Cameras don't prevent crime.
Computers don't predict crime.
And police don't stop crime.
The entire basis of Compstat is a flawed logic. Idiots watching raindrops on a window and guessing where the next one will land.
A criminal cannot be stopped before he acts. He can only be caught after he does. To the extent that his capture stops HIM from committing more crimes is the only means of fighting "future crime."
Things were much better under J Fed!
Bring him back!
6/13/2012 02:07:00 AM
That's like beating cancer. Then asking for it to come back. NOTHING good could come of bringing Jody back.
Obiwan McCarthy: You don't need to see the crime stats....
Mediatrooper: We don't need to see the crime stats.
Obiwan McCarthy: This isn't the crime you're looking for...
Mediatrooper: This isn't the crime we're looking for.
SCC & Brethern,
I hate to be a pessimist (ain't it always better to be optimistic!) but you guys are at the tip of the spear of a monumental set of major problems. CPD is charged with basically doing a magician's job -- make the results of decades old major societal decay go "poof" in the night. (And do it short-handed no less.) All of this wilding and mob lawlessness didn't crop up over night. What you guys are confronting on the streets day in and day out is the result of generations of societal rot. To be sure a great deal of the blame must always be placed squarely on the heads of the criminals, but our inner cities (and Chicago is no exception) have become a breeding ground for the amoral and socially maladjusted "yute" that barely comprehend the distinctions of "right and wrong" that have been a hallmark of civil society since its beginnings.
Criminally EVIL and immoral gubmint policies (always cloaked by the cover of "it's for the poor and/or for the children") designed to foster a dependent class have succeeded in creating multiple generations that have had a great deal of the basic human decency and morality breed out of them. For far too many of these criminals that you confront on the streets each day, their parents and grandparents have had basically no tools or societal constructs that are required to raise healthy, law abiding, productive citizens. Each generation is more damaged than the one proceeding it. (Of course there are individual EXCEPTIONS to all of this, we all know that well. However, it is sad to say that the numbers of these exceptions dwindles with each new generation.)
In short, you are charged with maintaining law and order during a period of severe societal breakdown. And because the root causes of this breakdown run so deeply throughout all levels of gubmint and have been entrenched for decades, there isn't even the possibility of society as a whole engaging in an honest, substantive conversation about these problems, no less begin the changes that are needed to reverse this decline (which will take decades even if it is attempted in good faith).
Like I said, I hate to be such a downer but I've been reading SCC for quite some time and all I see is a worsening situation. There is no solace in knowing that Chicago isn't alone. As an ousider, I would venture to say that perhaps one of the main reasons that these ills are so intense and widespread in Chicago, is that the decades of gubmint corruption have added another strongly negative reagent to the toxic mix. And much to our collective dismay, there seems to be a willingness on the part of some gubmint actors at various levels that are willing to stoke civil disorder as a means to attaining their evil ends.
May God protect each and everyone of you as you serve your public in the most under-appreciated and dangerous manner each day!
Tinley Park Five goofball terrorist gang whines about lack of support from SPLC and Chicago Tribune:
http://www.workers.org/2012/us/tpf_0614/
(...)
The Southern Poverty Law Center … I was a little disappointed with their reaction to it. We stand in solidarity with the Southern Poverty Law Center. We think that they’re fighting people on a legal basis is great. Good for them. We don’t think that everyone should be involved in militant action or that’s their strong suit. We believe in education; we believe in legal remedies; we believe in all of that stuff; and we believe that it’s going to truly take diversity of tactics and solidarity amongst the people who practice those tactics in order to be successful in this battle.
(...)
One of the members of our community gave an interview [to the Chicago Tribune — WW] and it was very explicit [with the Tribune — WW] about some of the security concerns that are going along with the death threats, and they went ahead and put pictures of the people that were able to make the first arraignment on the front page of the paper. These people have since received death threats, so that’s a little disappointing. The Chicago Tribune is supposed to be a liberal paper, but you know, they’re in it to sell papers.
(...)
016 going up
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Come on.
I can't wait to start this new overtime initiative! I love locking people up when I'm getting time and a half. $$$$
Anonymous said...
OT
A special thank you shout out to those (former) Area 3 detectives! It's been awhile since I worked up north, and with the merging of the areas I got to again witness Area 3 detectives doing what they do best! Way to torpedo the case even before an ASA got involved! You guys are the KINGS of the 19P! LAZIEST detectives in the city! Man do I miss Area 4.
6/13/2012 12:51:00 AM
I'm retired now. Years ago a lt. I worked for would say that the A3 dicks were experts at turning felonies into misdemeanors.
Hire more Police Officers. We only have a total of 7,300 Sworn Police Officers. This includes IOD and Medical.We are 5,000 Police Officers short of what Mayor Emanuel & Superintendent McCarthy publicly state that we have.
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Your numbers are way off. We are probably just under 11,000, fron top to bottom with recent retirements. A full compliment is 13,500. Bad economy=no jobs. Hang in there no help is on the way.
Carry and Conceal Law!
Is the best answer in a City that refuses to hire more Police Officers and cannot protect its citizens!
Da Pelon
Crime is down so low the city is willing to spend money they don't have in order to make it even lower! OT for all!
...or is that the wrong perception?
Would anyone believe just because I was the police chief of a small shithole city I am qaulified to be supt of the most difficult city to police in the country? Probably not. Would u believe something as mundane as a gang audit will solve the ills of our city? Probably not would u believe that I am full of shit? Without question
Instead of the police talking about the problem of violence in the city, why aren't the black leaders talking? There is no more hiding the fact that the black ghetto youths are out of control. This is solely the fault of the lack of parenting in the ghetto. What exactly is the black population doing to improve themselves? Mary M, Jesse, Al, Meeks, and all the other racial disharmony profiteers?
Sure it's perception.
The perception of no future, no jobs, shit schools, no one gives a f*ck about you but your homies, and the only dollar you'll ever see is from dope. But it's easier to hold poormouth press conferences and invent new layers of high-paid bureaucracy for your buddies than deal with THOSE perceptions.
Congratulations Mike Shields for firing another hard-working member of the previous regime, Doreen, out of spite and because you and Geiger didn't like her. I had the pleasure of working with Doreen and its no wonder she has been there as long as she has. She is not only a wealth of knowledge, but a wonderful person. Congrats Doreen for escaping the most unprofessional office in the city and heres hoping the next president brings you back.
Man at lunch today sitting at another table holding the news paper in one hand open to the story of another 5 wounded last night. In the other hand he held a steak knife and jabbed it into the table while saying "dead..dead..dead." and they all laughed
It was only a $7.00/plate lunch with drinks!
Last yr.the units were disbanded mid may, so the numbers are probably the same.
But higher numbers prior to May....
Have the funds started rolling in from the school zone speed trap cameras yet? Has one, just at least one of them, been installed?
How about all those NATO inspired tourist dropping wads of cash -- anyone see any of them yet?
Is the "O" man back in town this weekend because he has a 'perception' problem too and is perhaps seeking guidance from hizz honor?
"There are no American infidels in Baghdad. Never!"
"Perception Problem?"
The nations real commander and chief, JP Morgans CEO Jamie Dimon, is at the US Senate today telling the senators how it's gonna be and what he expects from them. Hilarious if it were not so sad. Guess the corporations are done with that other sock puppet that they were using as an illusion of the man in charge.
Mc Goebbels is trying to pull a fast one with the media. His sleigh of hands is not workings. He is masquerading the truth as "perceptions" and fighting it with propaganda.
Hopefully all the PPOs getting assigned to 001 and 018 can make a difference.
McCarthy just announced the CPD will follow Milaukee's method of fighting crime...
http://m.jsonline.com/more/news/watchdog/156871625.htm
Do you really believe that the head of ANY law enforcement agency is going to publicly admit that their city,town or village is going to shit? The mayors and managers have turned bosses into their mouth pieces...It's an "I get re-elected, you keep your job" affair. If the mayor says "you're not shorthanded" or "it's not the community's fault that crime is up" the chief or super either agrees or looks for another job. should these bosses grow a pair and stand up to the politicians? Absolutely...Should they tell the media how things really are? Sure..In a perfect world, the top cops should be able to salvage their credibility and tell people the bad as well the good, but who would listen to them while they stand in the unemployment line.
Working cops know what's up. Just keep doing the best you can with what you got,(which isn't much)and stay safe for the people that are really important...your families.
Hint-- work as many days you can. Save the money and retire when you can.
old retired guy
"A special thank you shout out to those (former) Area 3 detectives! It's been awhile since I worked up north, and with the merging of the areas I got to again witness Area 3 detectives doing what they do best! Way to torpedo the case even before an ASA got involved! You guys are the KINGS of the 19P! LAZIEST detectives in the city! Man do I miss Area 4.
6/13/2012 12:51:00 AM
I'm retired now. Years ago a lt. I worked for would say that the A3 dicks were experts at turning felonies into misdemeanors."
Sounds familiar:
A Journal Sentinel Watchdog Report
MPD staff routinely changed crime codes
Inquiry finds the practice helps create faulty violent crime rate
By Ben Poston of the Journal Sentinel
June 12, 2012
Milwaukee police record clerks have routinely changed computer codes by hand in a way that removes serious assaults from the city's violent crime rate, a Journal Sentinel investigation has found.
http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/
Anonymous said...
Hire more Police Officers. We only have a total of 7,300 Sworn Police Officers. This includes IOD and Medical.We are 5,000 Police Officers short of what Mayor Emanuel & Superintendent McCarthy publicly state that we have.This is a public safety issue for the law-abiding taxpayers of Chicago. It is a Police Officer safety issue for all of the Chicago Police Officers who work the streets of Chicago. Of course there will be the screams of disagreement from those brown-nosing asskissing liars,who do not want any attention brought upon this issue because the house of cards which they have built upon a foundation of lies & corruption and monetary theft will collapse faster than an imploded building.
You are so full of shit. we have about 11,800 sworn officers. Hey dumbshit, don't forget ET's Detectives, FTO's Sgts., etc. I don't know where you get your numbers but whomever is serving you up this crap, don't take any stock tips from him. Check your numbers before you start posting misinformation. You might find a couple people as stupid as you who believe it and then continue to spread lies and wrong info.
Perception Problem?
Simple solution...
STOP LYIN' MUTHAFUCKAHS!
TELL THE TRUTH MUTHAFUCKAHS!
STOP THE "HOORAY FOR ME AND FUCK THE POLICE" NONSENSE MUTHAFUCKAHS!
Flamin' Tutu & McIdunno are green-shit cowards wedded and bedded to the peculiar brand of fuckery as instituted by the prior mayoral administration.
They're wholly UNABLE TO TELL THE TRUTH!
Heh... Truth telling is a mile marker in the lives of men and sons of men... Those who walked a hard path and passed on hard lessons.
Truth. Decency. Honor. Integrity. Fidelity.
Love of that which is good...
Unyielding hatred of that which is venal, vile and causes hurt to folks who are trying to pursue a modicum of happiness in their lives while consciously refraining from hurting and inconveniencing others.
These wet-eyed, whipped bitches view The Patrolman as SUCH A THREAT to whatever fucked up plans they have...
Intentionally burning your Police Department at both ends is a prelude in trying to destroy it's ability to DEFEND what's left of what's decent in this town when the "other shoe" is finally dropped...
The public will say "oh shit" and Coppers will have full justification in saying "we tried to tell your silly asses but you were too fucking busy trying to march every Blue Suit to the Gulags just because it's a Blue Suit."
Perception Problem?
Hell Fucking yeah there's a great and mighty hella elephant ass of a "Perception Problem."
As a 3rd generation Chicago Police Department Patrolman, we have great difficulty reconciling the things the police ceo (Superintendent IS an honorific he hasn't earned yet in our eyes as he walks backwards away from what it really stands for) is saying and doing with the fact that he IS the son of an American Fighting Man and a Cop...
Heh... Some people live up to expectations.
Some people live down to expectations.
Ehh... Fuck it all. We're just another dumb, uneducated, uncouth, savage, unsophisticated, old, remembers the stink of the stockyards and the glow of the steel mills, obsolete, clinging to guns, religion and American ideals, "*gasp* you're one of those CONSERVATIVES and military veterans aren't you?" Chicago born and raised Copper.
It seems The Patrolman is the only one lamenting that this city and Police Department are ruined beyond salvaging.
You civilians don't have the good damn sense enough to be frightened out of your wits enough to act...
"It's for the children..."
There goes that "Perception Problem" again.
"The entire basis of Compstat is a flawed logic. Idiots watching raindrops on a window and guessing where the next one will land.
A criminal cannot be stopped before he acts. He can only be caught after he does. To the extent that his capture stops HIM from committing more crimes is the only means of fighting "future crime."
6/13/2012 10:52:00 AM
well said, and.....after his capture, he cannot commit more crime while incarcerated....
RE: the post about prosecutors being threatened...
Anonymous said:
.......After a few weeks, We went out to dinner with a couple of the attys whom I believe to be straight, and they filled us in. They said a lot of the prosecutors have gone out to their cars to find envelopes under the wipers with pictures of their home & kids. Some have been approached on CTA busses or trains, or even on the street they live, with people delivering a "message" to drop all charges, plead down the charges, or request minimal sentencing. Usually the message is delivered with a gun, and includes mentioning loved ones names.
Others, they've told us, are believed to be rec'g payments from either the gangs or the gangs shyster lawyers.
6/12/2012 07:59:00 AM
Did anybody read this under "Terror Charges"? Just enough real info to be believable, but so incredible.
I just thought they were inept over there.
6/13/2012 05:49:00 AM
I thought so too, then I saw an investigative report on tv today about a gangbanger from Chicago who went to Superior, WI and recruited some fine young men for his gang.
Influenced one kid enough that he killed his own father.
When gangbanger was setup via an undercover buying coke from him, search warrant yielded gun that was used.
Gangbanger on video telling either det. or prosecutor that they didn't know who they were dealing with.
Next thing you know, prosecutor's house burned to the ground in the middle of the night and he and his family barely got out.
The citizens of Superior were having none of this shit. Citizens took in the prosecutor's family, and half the town put signs on their lawns that read "So & so prosecutor lives here." Tons of them all over town.
Gangbanger had recruited the roommate of the head wrestling coach of the high school to do the arson while he was in the same cell with him on another charge. Wrestling coach and roommate admitted they did it. 35 years in prison.
Gangbanger and dad-killer got life.
If a Chicago gangbanger goes to WI and can recruit people to do that shit, I'd say the danger here is exponential in comparison to that.
>>>Anonymous said...
Cameras don't prevent crime.
Computers don't predict crime.
And police don't stop crime.
The entire basis of Compstat is a flawed logic. Idiots watching raindrops on a window and guessing where the next one will land.
A criminal cannot be stopped before he acts. He can only be caught after he does. To the extent that his capture stops HIM from committing more crimes is the only means of fighting "future crime."
6/13/2012 10:52:00 AM<<<
Add:
Highly vigilant police presence, the certainty of being caught, and swift and just punishment is the only means to deter crime.
What parts are we missing?
I don't get into the city much, but in light of the shit that I see happening, if I do, I can guarantee that I won't go unarmed. This is bullshit. These assholes won't be beating me up.
Stay safe CFD.
*******O.T.********
Mike Shields came to afternoon roll call in 008 today. He told the troops that the pension fund is broke. Even if the city were to give us our original amount back to roll into a 401 K they don't even have enough money to do that. He says we will be contributing more and getting less. But go ahead and sign up for Operation Safe City Part Deux. We are not going to have a retirement. No Pension and no Social Security. I just did A quick check of our Pension Funds, we are paying over 50 fund managers over 10 million in fees ( 2011 report) to handle our money. WHY!!!!!!!! Oh because some are on the LIST. We need to totally overhaul these losing funds and fire half the managers. Then need to fire the pension board. Hey Mikey if we are that broke what paperwork has ben filed to force the city to start paying into our pension. Oh wait the city has already told us "Fuck You" they don't care if the courts and Illinois constitution have mandated and ordered the city to pay. Why are we putting up with this shit. Then the city want's your activity brought up and you to work your weekends in the land of the Beast. Well I say another whole hearted Fuck You Rahm! If any of you glom this detail you deserve what you get, because you my friends are part of the problem. Better yet just give me part of your pension, since your a turn coat anyway. Just like all you ass kissing jags who HAD to have your picture taken with the ol' Rahminator and McCarthy and the wrap of the NATO summit. You should be ashamed. I need my fucking ZOLOFT.
Anonymous said...
Congratulations Mike Shields for firing another hard-working member of the previous regime, Doreen, out of spite and because you and Geiger didn't like her. I had the pleasure of working with Doreen and its no wonder she has been there as long as she has. She is not only a wealth of knowledge, but a wonderful person. Congrats Doreen for escaping the most unprofessional office in the city and heres hoping the next president brings you back.
6/13/2012 01:41:00 PM
hey numb nuts, after you get sober tomorrow please call the lodge and ask Doreen to help you find a step program to join.
OT:
Can someone look into the 30+ people on medical/IOD in 003? Almost an entire watch of people on medical/IOD!
Something is seriously wrong when you have 10 people per watch on medical/IOD.
6/13/2012 07:31:00 AM
You sound like an asshole to me. Do you have any proof that anyone is faking an injury? Then stfu! I work on 025 1st watch. We have about 7 officers on iod. I can tell you all of them are legit except two of them (the two lazy pieces of shit that never did anything anyways and do not know anything about the job, hint- one of the two ran for alderman and lost).
016 going up.....
This just in....
2 shot in the head...
1 dead on Henderson
1 (unk cond.) from School...
Its coming!!! or maybe its already here...
1st watch
Wow, BUT...are these shootings real or perceived?
017 is also burning to the ground--- car thefts and burglaries up as well as the usual gangbanger nonsense--- multiple shootings and already 5 homicides--- a skeleton crew of coppers out there on all 3 watches in both 016 and 017 with no relief in sight--- no bid openings anywhere--- zone one is like candyland for these shitheads to drive into and steal to their hearts content--- the coppers who are out there just go from one job to the next with little time to be proactive--- and now more people are being plucked out of the district daily for all the details leaving us with even less--- open up some damn bid spots up north....
6/13/2012 10:05:00 AM
In I clear I did some research. From 2002 to 2006 on average in 017 there were about 20 to 30 shootings per year and only about 3 to 6 homicides per year. From 2006 to now the numbers have tripled!
The only decent place to live in Chicago is 016 and other parts of the north side. And also small parts of 008. That is it. And even those decent areas are being runned over by the savage criminals.
A lot of offenders are moving to 016. On I clear look up where the parolees live. The majority of them still live in their shit neighborhoods but a lot are moving. Moving into your hood.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9heS667LUHE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
In the interests of public safety, Northwestern Memorial Hospital has alerted thousands of their employees concerning the recent attacks by roving bands of feral black youth (RBFBY) wreaking havoc in the 18th District.
Upon sighting RBFBY, phone 9-1-1 with their estimated numbers, location and direction of travel.
Yeah, it's a perception problem.
I'd rather Jody at the helm right now than McBarfly. He wasn't perfect but I trusted his sincere intentions over Garry's.
Jody worked out at the gym.
Garry works the bars.
'Nuff said?
Crime probably is down, but what is a crime? Police making a report for an incident which fits the reporting guidelines. Witness calls in fights on the beach, police come, offenders are told to leave, no "victim" wants to file a report, what do you have, NO CRIME. I would like to see the calls for service and the final disposition codes. That would give a better view of what is going on. NYC crime is down. It seems that the NYPD has an ongoing problem with officers not making reports, no report, no crime, good crime numbers.
Congratulations Mike Shields for firing another hard-working member of the previous regime, Doreen, out of spite and because you and Geiger didn't like her. I had the pleasure of working with Doreen and its no wonder she has been there as long as she has. She is not only a wealth of knowledge, but a wonderful person. Congrats Doreen for escaping the most unprofessional office in the city and heres hoping the next president brings you back.
Not true, I was at FOP today and talked to Doreen. By the way who was the other hard working employee that was fired?
Hopefully all the PPOs getting assigned to 001 and 018 can make a difference.
This better not be true . Send the new guys to busy districts and open up bid spots in 1 and 18 for other PO's
Hair Gel Hiroshi said...
I can't wait to start this new overtime initiative! I love locking people up when I'm getting time and a half. $$$$
6/13/2012 11:29:00 AM
$$$
REally?
How you gonna like going to 61st and Ghettoince for roll call and check off every day.
You make an arrest - you go to the southside for court as well.
Gas prices will be eating up your overtime check.
Fool
Its pitiful how the department can just get rid of u without a full investigation taking place. Hedge u need to sue the fuck out of McCarthy! FOP. How can u allow a member to be suspended without pay if a full investigation hasn't been done! Hedge already took a suspension for leaving his books in the car! That's punishment enough! If the fop would have got just 1 expert handwriting analyst prior to McCarthy suspending him hedge wouldnt have been without pay for 8 months! That should have been enough! This department is saying we r guilty and we have to prove ourself innocent. What a crock of shit!
Turn on You Tube and watch gang bangers sell drugs on the west side of this 'World Class City!'. Way to go Rahmbo.
Got a plan for this one?
Is anyone ever going to connect the dots on the " Wildings" and explain to the tax paying public that it is "Hope and Change" coming to fruition. It's not rocket science and the template was constructed by the New Black Panther Party on election day. November can't come soon enough.
Anonymous said...
Congratulations Mike Shields for firing another hard-working member of the previous regime, Doreen, out of spite and because you and Geiger didn't like her. I had the pleasure of working with Doreen and its no wonder she has been there as long as she has. She is not only a wealth of knowledge, but a wonderful person. Congrats Doreen for escaping the most unprofessional office in the city and heres hoping the next president brings you back.
Not true, I was at FOP today and talked to Doreen. By the way who was the other hard working employee that was fired?
6/13/2012 08:41:00 PM
True or not,those spots are exempt,and we all know how it goes, if you have allegiance to the other team,or the new team wants its own people it happens!
Anonymous said...
*******O.T.********
Mike Shields came to afternoon roll call in 008 today. He told the troops that the pension fund is broke. Even if the city were to give us our original amount back to roll into a 401 K they don't even have enough money to do that. He says we will be contributing more and getting less. But go ahead and sign up for Operation Safe City Part Deux. We are not going to have a retirement. No Pension and no Social Security. I just did A quick check of our Pension Funds, we are paying over 50 fund managers over 10 million in fees ( 2011 report) to handle our money. WHY!!!!!!!! Oh because some are on the LIST. We need to totally overhaul these losing funds and fire half the managers. Then need to fire the pension board. Hey Mikey if we are that broke what paperwork has ben filed to force the city to start paying into our pension. Oh wait the city has already told us "Fuck You" they don't care if the courts and Illinois constitution have mandated and ordered the city to pay. Why are we putting up with this shit. Then the city want's your activity brought up and you to work your weekends in the land of the Beast. Well I say another whole hearted Fuck You Rahm! If any of you glom this detail you deserve what you get, because you my friends are part of the problem. Better yet just give me part of your pension, since your a turn coat anyway. Just like all you ass kissing jags who HAD to have your picture taken with the ol' Rahminator and McCarthy and the wrap of the NATO summit. You should be ashamed. I need my fucking ZOLOFT.
6/13/2012 07:01:00 PM
I hope your kidding! Mike shields is on the board SAVIOUR OF THE PENSION FUND CORRECT? Mike if this is true you have some explaining to do! My cousin is with the U.S. attorneys office and I am going to call him tomorrow and ask him to have his "friends" take a peak!
8:23 PM
Thanks for sharing, Mrs. J-FLED.
Cowardice and leadership are mutually exclusive. Your disgraced despicable husband couldn't lead a starving hound to a fresh side of beef.
You sound like an asshole to me. Do you have any proof that anyone is faking an injury? Then stfu! I work on 025 1st watch. We have about 7 officers on iod. I can tell you all of them are legit except two of them (the two lazy pieces of shit that never did anything anyways and do not know anything about the job, hint- one of the two ran for alderman and lost).
6/13/2012 07:43:00 PM
I sound like an asshole when you prove my point within your post. Thanks for making it easy. Dumbass...
I was the morgue today. Saw Dr Jones write on the clipboard.
Cause and Manner of Death:
Multiple perception wounds / Homicide.
016 going up.....
This just in....
2 shot in the head...
1 dead on Henderson
1 (unk cond.) from School...
Its coming!!! or maybe its already here...
1st watch
6/13/2012 05:34:00 AM
Where have you been? 016 is turning ghetto faster than copper's snatching up overtime! You goofs in EP or the circle think you live in some utopia, but yet the savage beast lives right next door. Northwest Highway is a section 8 filled playground for the beast. Have fun!
6/13/2012 08:10:00 AM
Hey jagballs, we know the assholes are moving up here, what I would like to know is why are you calling us goofs. The last time I checked they are sending all of us to the ghetto districts, probably because some bullshit reverend is constantly bitching about something. The bottom line is until the residents of 016 start really beefing to the alderman and calling 911 for every little thing NOTHING will change. You ever heard the term the squeaky wheel get s the grease?
Please if you live in a decent neighborhood tell everyone you know to call 911 not 311 when they see something.
For the person bitching about Area 3, just remember one thing that area north is the best in the city, just ask the Lt. who gropes females and winds up being arrested in Michigan on golf outings.
9:39 pm-
Don't be scared, I'll hold your hand. Stroke!
McCarthy ius just trying to survive until the NYC job opens up.
"Where have you been? 016 is turning ghetto faster than copper's snatching up overtime! You goofs in EP or the circle think you live in some utopia, but yet the savage beast lives right next door. Northwest Highway is a section 8 filled playground for the beast. Have fun!
6/13/2012 08:10:00 AM"
They're all owned by the eurotrash barhags you clowns love to tell war stories too. They live in Barrington Hills drving 2012 Mercedes while collecting section 8rents. It's the American Dream alive @ work.
*******O.T.********
Mike Shields came to afternoon roll call in 008 today. He told the troops that the pension fund is broke. Even if the city were to give us our original amount back to roll into a 401 K they don't even have enough money to do that. He says we will be contributing more and getting less.
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1) Shields has swallwed the b.s. that has been fed to him.
2) Shields is now a spokesman for Rahm.
We are doomed with him at the helm.
Our union is corrup. Has been for a long time.
Will a competent person please hold his feet to the fire?
When Shields went out and bought that new car and new furniture, he showed his true colors.
It doesn't take a genius to see that a flashy facade usually means nothing behind it.
I'd rather be like Columbo.
This little fuck is SOOOOOOO far out of his league. Little prick.
Add:
Highly vigilant police presence, the certainty of being caught, and swift and just punishment is the only means to deter crime.
What parts are we missing?
6/13/2012 06:05:00 PM
Um all of them? Good points.
Anonymous said...
I don't get into the city much, but in light of the shit that I see happening, if I do, I can guarantee that I won't go unarmed. This is bullshit. These assholes won't be beating me up.
Stay safe CFD.
6/13/2012 06:13:00 PM
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"CPD" (gotta proofread better)
I don't want McCarthy in charge and I certainly don't want Jfled back. I want someone who knows this city, who worked our streets, who understands Chicago. I would also like to have a guy in charge who is in charge (if the politicos will let him)and not some dufus who spent 20 years pushing papers across a desk. Among the 12,000 or so of us left I'm sure there are 2 or 3 guys who are real cops that have some leadership skills. It's time for a change at CPD.
Doreen still works at the FOP. Idiot.
Hey, Doreen mADE THE BLOG!! Only problem is: she was NOT fired, still works at FOP, and everyone likes her. Who is the big fat liar?
"A criminal cannot be stopped before he acts."
He can't be stopped from committing crime *somewhere* but he can be harassed all day every day until he decides to move out of New York and commit crime in NJ instead - which is what really happened with zero tolerance.
Compstat was just a cover for "liberal" New York's very own version of sundown laws.
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