Concealed Carry in Illinois
This is great:
- The McLean County State’s Attorney went on record last week of announcing he would not prosecute people charge with weapons violations that directly are in conflict with the Second Amendment.
Edwards County State’s Attorney Michael Valentine said he agrees with the stance taken by Ronald Dozier.
“I have to commend Ron for his public stance,” said Valentine. “He said at the State’s Attorney’s conference earlier this year he was planning to make public the fact the State is in conflict with the Second Amendment.”
Given the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that the amendment allows people the right to carry arms, either openly or concealed, Dozier said the State of Illinois, by being the only state to deny concealed carry, is out of step with the rest of the country. He added his office will not prosecute those people charged with possession just because they do not have a FOID card.
He also is circulating a petition expressing the General Assembly reverse its stance and adopt concealed carry.
“I think it does go against the (U.S.) Constitution,” said Valentine of the state’s stance. “I agree and commend Ron for his stance.”
It is a stance, the non prosecution of non-violent firearm violations such as FOID violations, unlawful use of weapons that conflict with federal policy, that Valentine’s office, as well as many in the region, carry out, just not as vocally as Dozier.
“It’s a policy I know several counties in Illinois, including Edwards, now follow,” he said.
So instead of Rahm, Madigan and the rest of the anti-gun people running the state from Chicago, correct thinking State's Attorneys will disregard portions of the law that are so completely out of step with not only the country, but vast swaths of Illinois itself that aren't near Chicago and Cook County.
What's that you say? No bloodbaths in McLean and Edwards County? Nor the rest of southern Illinois? Golly, it's almost like responsible people know better than the politicians what's good for themselves, their families and their communities.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
92 Comments:
" Golly, it's almost like responsible people know better than the politicians what's good for themselves, their families and their communities."
But Rahm, Madigan and the rest of these bastards know what's good for YOU!
Its nice to see these States Attorneys enforcing the UUW and FOID statutes the same way Obama enforces the immigration statutes. Lets see if the liberals in media complain.
Good move by both of these downstate counties. Obvious they are Republican areas because Liberal Democrats don't believe good honest citizens deserve the right to defend themselves from the Mutants prowling our streets. It is a good start.
That's why i didn't vote for Quinn but with the the dead and voter fraud he won where are the feds at a beer summit?
I don't always go out without a firearm. But when I do in Chicago, I drive a f--king tank.
lucky thing for me, the residents of crook county are fucking retarded, otherwise i might have to face the prospective of being bored to death.
Chalkie
I vote we all move to McLean County! That man has common sense! How refreshing.
My God. I think people are really starting to wake up. This communist, I mean progressive democrat, bullshit has finally been shown to be what it is. Anti American horseshit.
The next thing you know, people can disagree with political opinions and still get a business license in Chicago.
Go Chick-Fil-A.
ABOUT EFFING TIME!
to hell with these liberal-commie DEMO-cRAT politicians and their BULL$HIT anti gun agenda
Petitions being circulated in Henry County for advisory vote in November. Supported by Sheriff James Padilla. Lots of support in a county with three gun manufacturers.
Good article tn Freedom mag. (of the NRA) just came out.
All about Chicago, murder rate, Emanuel and McCarthy.
go SIU SALUKIS!GO CARBONDALE!i miss u guys since i graduated and moved back to the chicago region!
No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government"
-- Thomas Jefferson
Tyranny of government here in Illinois?? That explains it, so we can't protect ourselves from them!
Gov Potatoe head wont like this at all maybe he'll convine a special leg for this one I doubt.
"Given the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that the amendment allows people the right to carry arms, either openly or concealed,"
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they did? where exactly? (serious question)
So instead of Rahm, Madigan and the rest of the anti-gun people running the state from Chicago, correct thinking State's Attorneys will disregard portions of the law that are so completely out of step with not only the country, but vast swaths of Illinois itself that aren't near Chicago and Cook County.
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Three Cheers for "Law Abiding" States Attorneys" !!
If the anti gun political scoundrels from shitcago are so against firearms let them give up their "armed police" details. Most all criminals are against concealed carry for law abiding citizens. It's time to strap on some iron & say Fuck you to our politicians who fail to obey the law.
"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
The other 49 states are wrong. Banning concealed carry by qualified law-abiding citizens is the panacea for minimizing urban violence.
Confiscate all firearms and ammunition from all citizens. Our precious "Chicago values" are at stake. It's "for the children".
"shall not be infringed upon"
Wait until some hillbilly from that county guns down his family of 9 because he lost his meth recipe, then cowardly kills himself. That tune will change, its inevitable.
Everybody knows what the problem is with out of control violence. No politician or news outlet will ever admit it.It makes good news and keeps stories about political corruption on the back burner and the offenders are their constituents.
Been OTJ 21 years. Back in my tac days, I'd sometimes come across a gun in the home of some otherwise law abiding old timer. More often than not, I did nothing. Let them keep the gun because they lived in some shithole neighborhood, where they were sitting ducks for opportunistic savages.
The wardrobe of all decent, peaceable, well dressed citizens should include at least a .38 special to be used only for lawful purposes.
I started reading you awhile ago and I thank you for your candor. When I was in the Loop last Saturday for a nice meal with the Missus I noticed a lot of hood rats who tried to lock eyes and 'front me as I walked down the street. Never saw that 20 years ago. I am not taking my family to the Loop any more as a result.
Concealed carry now!
I vote we all move to McLean County! That man has common sense! How refreshing.
8/21/2012 12:34:00 AM
You can't. You're being held hostage like a feudal serf because you vote for communists in the democratic machine. They tell you where you can live like you're a slave. Now keep passing out those flyers for the alderman, kid.
If Obama can pick and choose what parts of the Constitution he will enforce and defend, then a right mided Staes Attorney should have the same option in enforcing state law!
Used to get a lot of traffic warrants out of McLean County, home of Illinois State University at Bloomington-Normal. Always M/1's. Some were shitheads getting free rides at the U (jocks) or driving between Chgo and the deep South. Loved sending those cretins to CBC, bonds were usually pretty high.
Wow! Sounds too good to be true. Time to move....oh wait I cant
They flipped and used the Democrats stance "I will not fight the gay marriage ban" and applied it to concealed carry. Its brilliant. Dummycrats in Crook County used this very same argument to garner votes with their liberal voting populace in Crook County by going against the majority of the country's opinion to support traditional marriage values. The downstate used the same argument and applied it to gun control. I am seriously considering moving to Bloomington/Normal, their elected reps are actually doing their jobs and worrying about real issues like public safety rather than an arena the State should stay out of.
I don't believe the Supreme Court held there's any right to concealed carry, or to carry arms outside one's home. The holding in McDonald was only that you can't be prevented from owning a gun at home. It went no further than that.
If violent crime is to be curbed, it is only the intended victim who can do it. The felon does not fear the police, and he fears neither judge nor jury. Therefore, what he must be taught to fear is his victim.
Crook County is almost inline with the Constitution: CCSAO prosecutes but won't send offenders to jail.
Every county outside of Crook County will soon be doing the same thing as the two that are giving Conceal/Carry a try. Cement Head politicians here are just stuck in this No Guns for anybody mode. In the mean time there is carnage on our streets and the good taxpaying citizens are moving elsewhere if they can. Chicago is not safe anymore.
Frankly, I would rather have more police than easier weapons carry. Both would be great, but here's why I prefer more police:
(1) I hate burdening my waist with so much as a cell phone, let alone a gun and ammo
(2) I don't have time to train
(3) I can't read people and situations like a police officer can
(4) Police do more than just prevent person-on-person crime
(5) I want my teenagers to be safe when they go out without me, and giving them a concealed pistol doesn't seem like a good way to do that
I live in a (relatively) safe part of the city, and in 15 years we've had no trouble. What I really want is for more of this city to enjoy it the way we have been able to, thanks in no small part to CPD's efforts in my neighborhood.W.
"The Right of The People to Keep and Bear Arms SHALL NOT be infringed"*
*except in Illinois where they violate BOTH the US Constitution AND The Illnois State Constitution.
Let the hunger games movie be a lesson, when the government takes away all your firearms they control you and your family . The right to bare arms was in the constitution for a reason.
KUDOS to McLean Co; Il. for following the U.S. Constitution! True American Patriots, unlike the Communists running Chicago, Crook County, and the State of Illinois [Quinn]/[DEMOCRAT].
Anonymous said...
Its nice to see these States Attorneys enforcing the UUW and FOID statutes the same way Obama enforces the immigration statutes. Lets see if the liberals in media complain.
8/21/2012 12:12:00 AM
Somewht True, but the Obama Administration is ignoring enforcing the Constitution/U.S. Laws, whereas McLean County is ENFORCING the U.S. Constitution
There is Chicago and Cook County and then the rest of IL. That is the way it has always been and will always be.
What is considered CLOSE to CHICAGO or COOK County.. people in places like ORLAND PARK don't feel they are close to Cook County even though they are IN IT.. LOL.. actually most of the counties outside of COOK are REPUBLICAN.. I think there is ONE downstate county that is Democrat.. over by the MISSISSIPPI somewhere they even voted for Quinn
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thank you SSC for posting things like this, and for continuing to support concealed carry for all law-abiding citizens.
While I support the McLean County States Attorney and what he is doing, isn't he supposed to enforce the rules as is? He is a Tom Dart in choosing what to enforce but conservative.
Fuck Lisa Madigan and her corrupt father.
McLean county doesn't play around with offenders....They issue warrants for failure to appear on seatbelt violations with no geographic limits and they will extradite. It seems they take the laws of this state and nation serious and don't do the "bend me, shape me, anyway you want me." A criminal history can determine who can legally own a firearm not a laminated card....Felons with guns go to prison downstate....for years not months.
Your dipshit president has set the precedent and now freedom loving people are responding. he has instructed the Justice Dept to no longer defend defend cases involving the Defense Of Marriage Act plus he has decided on his own which parts of the immigration laws he wants to obey.
It's only logical that freedom loving people stick it up his ass by also choosing which laws to prosecute and which to ignore.
This is a great idea. Anyone wanna bet what Anita Alvarez will do?????
Lets face it we are stuck in Crook County and we pay for it.
To prove the point try to order anything related to a weapon on line like from (Cheaper than dirt)
They will not ship inside of Cook County but they sure will to Will Kendal. WHY?
By the way I ordered the part and had it shipped to my kid downstate at school dorm address. Now this make sense I can order weapon parts to a University address...
No I am not ordering ammo or weapons just a handgun replacement part. Only here in Crook County do they limit sales on line.
Thank Goodness some States Attorney has the insight and balls to stand behind the choice to own a weapon....
I live in a (relatively) safe part of the city, and in 15 years we've had no trouble. What I really want is for more of this city to enjoy it the way we have been able to, thanks in no small part to CPD's efforts in my neighborhood.W.
8/21/2012 10:55:00 AM
Thanks buddy.... wish there was more we could do with the little we have left, but it's reached the end.
Good luck to you my taxpaying friend and to those like you. Until pandering political hacks stop ignoring the fact that core services such as police, fire, streets and sanitation, water service and education are the FIRST items to be budgeted and PAID FOR REGARDLESS OF ANYTYHING ELSE IN THIS COUNTRY, you will see that only the rich will have these services in the future.
Middle class, paying for their own public services mandated by the government? Not for much longer I'm afraid, the only services YOU'LL get are whatever the politicians and their big money handlers will LET you have if there's any left over from protecting THEIR asses. No, rather by pandering to the greed and desire to see others in worse circumstances, the american public will continue being duped into fucking over the only people left to protect, serve and educate them. And they will never wake the fuck up because the american public loves fucking over everyone else, and the government hands them their free excuse by propagandizing FOR them telling the world they shouldn't have to pay for these services anymore.
Fuck you Rahm, give up your detail. Fuck you madigan(s) also. Sic semper tyranis. The Constitution is coming to Illinois get on the train or get under it.
(1) I hate burdening my waist with so much as a cell phone, let alone a gun and ammo
Man up ya pusswad.
Why did the Japanese not invade the US after they wiped out Pearl Harbor? Because they did not have the manpower to deal with the citizenry who they believed were armed. Yes, absolutely true!
Concealed carry aside, it's amazing to me that something as unconstitutional as the FOID law has survived for over 40 years.
Can you think of any other freedom enshrined in the Bill of Rights, where we must first get permission from the state to exercise that right? Getting permission from the state to merely own a firearm or even buy ammo is no different than being required to get a license before expressing your opinion or going to church. Only in Illinois.
"Anyone wanna bet what Anita Alvarez will do?????" 8/21/2012 03:12:00 PM
About what you'd expect. Opt out of defending Illinois' same-sex marriage ban in court because she thinks it's unconstitutional, even though same-sex marriage isn't in the textual bill of rights or in the USSC's invented constitutional rights (yet). While simultaneously opting out of defending Cook County residents' right to bear arms, because she disagrees with a textual constitutional right.
Bear in mind this would work right away just about anywhere in IL except Cook. Civs with no conditional LE immunity (lol) that use proportional force will have to deal with owned prosecutors.
And the jury pool. We know what that means - if you can't bust out a brotha 'cause he's down you get some payback.
Any civ if lawfully armed and carrying in the future is rolling the dice in any of tGreat Society shitholes. Except oddly enough, Detroit, which has similar laws to FL and recently hasn't been scalphunting citizens who defend themselves.
Imagine that here. Right.
I'm all for it. At least that attorney has common sense. We need concealed carry to protect innocent citizens from these packs of rats ruining the Gold Coast and Wrigleyville.
Even if they can get it to pass, the Shitcago Machine will impose impossibly high fees & rules to keep Joe Public from protecting himself.
Since this is a right granted by the Constitution why is the city allowed to make us pay for this right with all their fees & registrations It's just a way to keep the unarmed legit citizens un-armed.
Pookie don't care, he be armed all da time & he don't want no future "victims" ventilating he ass with 45 cal acp rounds.
Anonymous said...
Fuck Lisa Madigan and her corrupt father.
8/21/2012 02:28:00 PM
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And all the other asshat politicians that follow Potato & Tomato Head !!!
Fuck daley & his clan also !!!!!
That's good publicity for a worthy cause, but carrying outside of the home is still a crap-shoot.
Get in a collision, or hung up somehow with the cops and all it takes is either a hard-ass cop who notices your gun, then a hard-ass states attorney and your middle-class life is over. Gone will be your gun and probably $40,000 in legal fees, and you still might do time under Quinn's heightened penalties for UUW.
Get the damn law changed. Turn out these criminals who run the State's government. Otherwise it's like hoping for a Fully Informed Jury at trial (a long shot).
Bear in mind this would work right away just about anywhere in IL except Cook. Civs with no conditional LE immunity (lol) that use proportional force will have to deal with owned prosecutors.
And the jury pool. We know what that means - if you can't bust out a brotha 'cause he's down you get some payback.
Any civ if lawfully armed and carrying in the future is rolling the dice in any of tGreat Society shitholes. Except oddly enough, Detroit, which has similar laws to FL and recently hasn't been scalphunting citizens who defend themselves.
Imagine that here. Right.
The right to bare arms was in the constitution for a reason.
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I don't give a shit what's in the constitution. I'll wear long sleeves if I want to.
"they'll take my sleeves off of my cold dead arms".
doesn't a states attorney have to take action against someone who violates a law? Whether a fan of CC or not, can he pick and choose? Can he decide not to prosecute someone based on what he likes and does not like?
I don't think he's allowed to abrogate his responsibilities like that.
I vote we all move to McLean County! That man has common sense! How refreshing.
8/21/2012 12:34:00 AM
You can't. You're being held hostage like a feudal serf because you vote for communists in the democratic machine. They tell you where you can live like you're a slave. Now keep passing out those flyers for the alderman, kid.
8/21/2012 08:43:00 AM
You're nuts. This 'kid' is a 55yr old retired sgt who has never voted for the democratic ' machine' and has never handled an aldermanic flyer, or anything else remotely aldermanic, for that matter.
I am not, and never have been, held hostage over where I live, especially since I own two homes, one outside of Cook county. But, thanks for all the unsolicited advice, gramps. You sound like a real unhappy and unpleasant fellow.
While I support the McLean County States Attorney and what he is doing, isn't he supposed to enforce the rules as is? He is a Tom Dart in choosing what to enforce but conservative.
8/21/2012 12:31:00 PM
so, what you're saying is that the 'rules as is' don't include the US Constitution?
There is Chicago and Cook County and then the rest of IL. That is the way it has always been and will always be.
8/21/2012 11:49:00 AM
'always be' is an awfully long time.
i'd beg to differ, but, i don't beg, ever.
Chalkie
Frankly, I would rather have more police than easier weapons carry. Both would be great, but here's why I prefer more police:
(1) I hate burdening my waist with so much as a cell phone, let alone a gun and ammo
(2) I don't have time to train
(3) I can't read people and situations like a police officer can
(4) Police do more than just prevent person-on-person crime
(5) I want my teenagers to be safe when they go out without me, and giving them a concealed pistol doesn't seem like a good way to do that
I live in a (relatively) safe part of the city, and in 15 years we've had no trouble. What I really want is for more of this city to enjoy it the way we have been able to, thanks in no small part to CPD's efforts in my neighborhood.W.
8/21/2012 10:55:00 AM
(1) but you don't mind having those love handles encircling your waist, like some kind of meat hoola-hoop?
(2) but you do have time to die.
(3) no kidding.
(4) like what?
(5) you would be the one to know that.
and thanks, in no part, whatsoever, on your clueless perspectives on current reality.
just a matter of time, thats what potus whispered to the russian. now we have gov agencies buying ammo, for what? god help us if hes reelected. one of his main advisors is iranian,valerie jarrett. its just a coincidence.
Chicago is not safe anymore.
8/21/2012 10:51:00 AM
don't blame me, i just kill here.
Chalkie
Jeff Cooper said...
If violent crime is to be curbed, it is only the intended victim who can do it. The felon does not fear the police, and he fears neither judge nor jury. Therefore, what he must be taught to fear is his victim.
8/21/2012 09:42:00 AM
easier done than said, at least where i come from.
Chalkie
I don't believe the Supreme Court held there's any right to concealed carry, or to carry arms outside one's home. The holding in McDonald was only that you can't be prevented from owning a gun at home. It went no further than that.
8/21/2012 09:35:00 AM
and yet, and yet, there's still this pesky thing called the US Constitution.
you should try reading it sometime.
Wait until some hillbilly from that county guns down his family of 9 because he lost his meth recipe, then cowardly kills himself. That tune will change, its inevitable.
8/21/2012 07:23:00 AM
only within your warped little mind.
they did? where exactly? (serious question)
8/21/2012 05:23:00 AM
in order for your question to be serious, it would have to have been posed by someone other than you.
>>>Anonymous said...
What is considered CLOSE to CHICAGO or COOK County.. people in places like ORLAND PARK don't feel they are close to Cook County even though they are IN IT.. LOL.. actually most of the counties outside of COOK are REPUBLICAN.. I think there is ONE downstate county that is Democrat.. over by the MISSISSIPPI somewhere they even voted for Quinn
8/21/2012 12:00:00 PM<<<
Are you kidding!! Even in Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador they vote for Quinn.
And they collect SSI benefits without setting foot in this county thanks to relatives in the U.S.. Quinn, Rahm and BHO wouldn’t want to cut them off and prosecute their "Immigrant Vote".
and yet, and yet, there's still this pesky thing called the US Constitution.
you should try reading it sometime.
8/21/2012 07:02:00 PM
I see how you practically called the poster stupid in that they did not read the US Constitution as you imply you did. Well, my friend, I need to remind you that the US Supreme Court narrowly upheld the interpretaion of the 2nd Amendment which allows personal ownership of firearms. It was 5-4. The four disenters stated that in their mind only a militia can own firearms and that is the states national guard. A turn on the court to a mor liberal bent and you could see a ban on individual ownership of any firearms. That is the declared intent of the liberal anti-gunners and they will never stop trying.
doesn't a states attorney have to take action against someone who violates a law? Whether a fan of CC or not, can he pick and choose? Can he decide not to prosecute someone based on what he likes and does not like?
I don't think he's allowed to abrogate his responsibilities like that.
8/21/2012 06:27:00 PM
he's not 'abrogating' his primary responsibility of upholding the US Constitution, since those laws which conflict with said Constitution are null and void at their inception.
try to understand which country you live in.
presuming you are capable of understanding.
Illinois is a defacto socialist state because it is completely run by the Chicago/Crook County Democratic machine, and every swinging d**k in that group is dedicated to following a socialist agenda (ie. govt control {through either outright ownership or more commonly regulation} of various aspects of the economy/society combined with govt central planning= socialism).
Socialists always think that they know what you really want better than you do. That is why socialist try to force certain car designs on the public (hybrids, small cars) when the public market place clearly does not want those types of cars, or why socialist think you need some type of govt healthcare mandate despite the public being 70% against such a thing. Socialist believe that you, the public, are incapable of caring for yourself, and are to irresponisble to be permited to carry a weapon. Therefore, dedicated socialist that they are, they force regulations on you that would prohibit you from such a "foolish" act. Socialist are also very good at making usre that they are the only ones with the guns, since most thinking people will attempt to resist govt intrusion of this nature into their lives. As Chairman Mao said, "power comes from the barrel of a gun", and you can bet you last dollar that Quinn, Madigan, Emmanuel and the rest of those SOB's are going to do everthing in their power to make sure that only they have the power.
Anonymous said...
Wait until some hillbilly from that county guns down his family of 9 because he lost his meth recipe, then cowardly kills himself. That tune will change, its inevitable.
8/21/2012 07:23:00 AM
Um,,sure....
I guess there must be a lot of hillbilly meth heads doing all that shooting in Englewood???
Go back and shove you head back up your ass so the rest of us dont have to listen to your idiocy, duchebag!
Well done McLean County ASA. It is nice to finaly see some checks and ballances returned to govt.
The ASA Office is a part of the executive branch of govt.
The Legislative branch makes laws and can overturn an executive veto w/ enough votes.
The Judicial branch interpretts the laws and can overturn them.
The executive branch can choose not to enforce a law that the legislature has passed. This is the executive branch's check against unjust laws.
Once again, well done ASA.
"Wait until some hillbilly from that county guns down his family of 9 because he lost his meth recipe, then cowardly kills himself. That tune will change, its inevitable."
Those crazies are here now, in the Chicago area. Take a look at the (Jennifer) Hudson family murders, and their murderer wasn't legally in possession of a gun.
I agree Illinois should have concealed carry. But not prosecuting a UUW offender in downstate IL isn't the same as what goes on in Chicago. I've never arrested a person for UUW who wasn't a shitbird. I don't think downstate police officers have the same amount of shit to deal with a Chicago police.
"Chicago is not safe anymore."
Chicago has unique problems that cannot be solved no matter how many laws they try to pass.
rb
"While I support the McLean County States Attorney and what he is doing, isn't he supposed to enforce the rules as is?"
Just as Anita Alvarez picks & chooses what laws her office will prosecute, e.g. there is no "hate crime" when the victim is white, aggravated battery against a P.O. isn't aggravated unless you're seriously injured (although the law says otherwise), are just two examples.
I am as pro gun as one can be but I have a hard time with this. If the younger Herbie Pulgar is in Bloomington attending ISU on the scholarship he getd and has a gun on him sans FOID card, he gets a free pass? How do you differentiate? Obviously concealed carry with required training and clean background is the way to go!
Anonymous said...
The right to bare arms was in the constitution for a reason.
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I don't give a shit what's in the constitution. I'll wear long sleeves if I want to.
"they'll take my sleeves off of my cold dead arms".
8/21/2012 06:21:00 PM
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Outstanding! I just wonder how many people will actually "get it".
Anonymous said...
There is Chicago and Cook County and then the rest of IL. That is the way it has always been and will always be.
8/21/2012 11:49:00 AM
In the last governor's election, Quinn won 3 counties out of 102 in the state... Cook, one near Peoria, and one near East St. Louis.
Pulled FOID- I had to be admitted into hospital for severe exhaustion and medication adjustment. My MOM passed away. Now I am told since I checked in to pschy ward where all my M.D. patience go since hello he is a shrink. I will get a automatic notice from little co. At which time my POLICE powers will be suspended for up to 2 years. H E L P????? A N Y O N E????? I am Fucked..... Signed 14 years and clueless.....
I think Illinois should start a new trend and just go straight CON-CON carry and do away with FOID.
There needs to be a real State gang banger registry so they can be tracked and excluded from owning and carry weapons,ammo too.
Anonymous said...
Fuck Lisa Madigan and her corrupt father.
8/21/2012 02:28:00 PM
Maybe better should be fuck Mike Madigan and his idiot daughter.
Anonymous said...
"Wait until some hillbilly from that county guns down his family of 9 because he lost his meth recipe, then cowardly kills himself. That tune will change, its inevitable."
Those crazies are here now, in the Chicago area. Take a look at the (Jennifer) Hudson family murders, and their murderer wasn't legally in possession of a gun.
8/21/2012 11:02:00 PM
How about that goof Vaughn? He killed his whole family because he was tired of them, like the cable company, he wanted a change. So he put his gun to their heads.
What they need is some laws outlawing murdering your whole family! When that happens then people won't be killing their entire family by god! Sensible anti-killing-your-family-laws needed NOW! Enough of these lax murder laws. The National Murder Association cannot win this! Sensible murder laws needed now!
Once murder is outlawed, only outlaws will commit murder!
Bloomington-Normal in the house!
"While I support the McLean County States Attorney and what he is doing, isn't he supposed to enforce the rules as is?"
No. The States Attorneys took an oath of office swearing to uphold the Constitution. Anita is violating that oath every time she prosecutes an otherwise law abiding citizen for mere possession of a firearm. This guy is trying to do what's right. Alvarez should be removed from office for violating her oath.
"I see how you practically called the poster stupid in that they did not read the US Constitution as you imply you did. Well, my friend, I need to remind you that the US Supreme Court narrowly upheld the interpretaion of the 2nd Amendment which allows personal ownership of firearms. It was 5-4. The four disenters stated that in their mind only a militia can own firearms and that is the states national guard. A turn on the court to a mor liberal bent and you could see a ban on individual ownership of any firearms. That is the declared intent of the liberal anti-gunners and they will never stop trying."
8/21/2012 09:42:00 PM
This is the reason that the founding fathers included the 2nd amendment in the constitution. They knew that there may come a time when government got too big and started doing things that it shouldn't. They knew that the people might have to rise up and take control back, and to do that you need to be armed. The militia is "the people", not the national guard, contrary to what our screwed up Supreme Court might say.
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