Exhibit B
Evidently, this is where it all started:
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Someone sent us this as a useful tool: Contact Cards.rtf
Have fun with it.
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The comments have been running hot and heavy over "dogs" versus "legitimate
thought out reasons." And while a "job action" cannot be advocated and is grounds for dismissal, it seems more and more obvious that the one-way attitude prevalent among the upper ranks of the Department has more than a little to do with the negative number push-back from the boys and girls at the bottom.
Someone sent us this as a useful tool: Contact Cards.rtf
Have fun with it.
Labels: sarcasm AND silliness
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
142 Comments:
Desperate times call for desperate measures. They all know it's a sinking ship.
The brass' line "we got your back" will be "you should have known better", when you are in federal court for civil rights violations.
X/O of Belmont was an extremely intense "working copper" so when in doubt just follow his work ethic. It's a do as I say not as do mentality.
Rules by whatever whacked out emotion has possessed em for that bit of time. Some1 please administer the mood stability meds.
To beat 430. I don't know who u r. But i do know 1 thing and that is.....u sir are a complete moron.
Oh. And I'm sure a merit hack as well.
Guess what, Sarge? I'm RDO tomorrow and here's what I've got planned:
Right after breakfast, I'll be heading to the UPS store to burn a couple hundred color copies of your "edict". The contact numbers to every local media outlet, the BGA and Loevy & Loevy will accompany this handout.
I will then spend the entire day driving around 004 passing out these flyers to the citizenry. Those that have the time to listen will be given a synopsis of how their civil liberties are potentially at stake thanks to an over zealous asshole sergeant that has a (Koolaid) drinking problem.
I will also encourage them to take preemptive actions to combat the possibility of their freedoms being restricted and/or their finances compromised via mandated ticket blitzes.
No worries, Sarge, I won't "out" you by name. The local preachers that'll descend upon the district to complain will get that information. So too will the media, and ultimately the civil rights attorneys.
The best part is I don't even work in 004. I've just had enough of hypocritical, idiot supervisors that tow the company line because they're spineless cowards or because they're actually stupid enough to try and throw decent coppers in the trick bag to further their own agenda.
So if you folks in 004 get calls of "Suspicious Person driving a maroon Camry handing out papers" today, please don't get hurt responding. That'll just be harmless old me empowering the people of the greater southeast side.
Maybe no job action is available, but if everyone printed 5 of these and sent them to various upper 'assholes' they might get the point. Send them to the media as well. Pam Zekman. She'll do a story just about getting a bunch of these in the mail!
Years ago I outed an asshole news reporter and sent copies of what I wrote not only to every news outlet in the city, county and state, but also to the nat'l news.
Some people paid attention.
Love it.
But we also need one that everyone in every district can turn in at the end of their shift. I'll try to post one on SCRIBD.
Make a copy of this and get it to the trib and sun times.by the way contact cards violate a persons civil rights.where is pat camden and the fop on this issue?
Last night I wrote zero parkers, zero movers and zero contact cards. I'm a dog....
A dog that wrestled two mentals, spent 2 hours on a shooting, wrote a four car accident report, gave marital advice to a couple of crackheads, and handled about a dozen other bullshit disturbances.
I guess I didn't earn my paycheck.
This pre-printed form is somewhat of a good idea if done correctly.
Perhaps the FOP should consult with it's attorneys and provide us with a statement when we are compelled to write one.
I answer my calls just like the CFD does. When the CFD drives around looking for fires, i'll start looking for crminals.
the only thing this is missing is an actual cpd document number at the bottom! marvelous work.
And in the face of all adversity, the real police still have a sense of humor.
Contact cards are a civil rights violation. One don't have to give you any info if they don't want to.
Anonymous said...
Hey there Bid Guy ---- You think because you have a bid I can't fuck with you? No, your watch can't be changed but there are so many other ways. Maybe you'll see a little more when I out you in that busy intersection to direct traffic and have the sergeant drop you off, or maybe standing surveillance at that vacant lot where the dope boys are hiding their work. Yea, I know, you'll sue me for picking on you or something like that, but just remember, as the boss I have discretion on your work assignments. Most of us only ask for a little, your the jagofff that is bringing heat on everyone. Do your fucking job, or at least a little something to earn your pay, or I can help you to accomplish that task that you are finding so difficult.
10/03/2012 07:12:00 PM
I challenge you better yet I dare you to try to do anything to make me work never going to happen boss. What you going to do change my start time? Drop me off on foot, Hannah IOD will be completed hours afterwards. There isn't a dam thing you can do about it boss, hahah. As a bid P.O. I got you by the short hairs doesn't that make you so mad? As for not approving my CU, well I got unlimited CU and its called the medical!!! Chew on that boss, now go cry to the commander and continue to look like a stroke.
Just to play Devil's Advocate, once a message is sent, the content can be edited by anyone with access to the PDT. The picture proves nothing unless corroborated by multiple sources.
hey scc...check out today's u.s.a. newspaper...big article on chicago murder rate
I answer my calls just like the CFD does. When the CFD drives around looking for fires, i'll start looking for crminals.
10/04/2012 03:53:00 AM
Spoke like the TRUE DOG you are. No wonder things are screwed up on this department. The funny thing is, if they paid you by the amount of activity produced, you'd be leading the pack.
the old crusty looking guy sitting in the back of roll call with the eisenhower jacket on and a star and a bar on the left sleeve is just sitting there soaking in the technological revolution that the department is currently experiencing--- he has never heard a crybaby supervisor whining about the activity before--- he has never been threatened before for coming in with no activity--- the younger hair gels sitting around him don't want to work with him and think he is a total pooch--- do they really know the man though, do they know where he's been--- after you have seen a police officer shot full of holes bleed to death in front of your eyes or watched a couple of dozen guys drink themselves to death that fuc%%n mover or contact card doesn't really seem to important--- survival becomes paramount not only for yourself but for the fellow officers on the watch--- from day one we all dream of the day when we can walk in to the bosses office for the last time with that par form and start collecting that pension--- if you get there you need to be both physically and mentally fit or you lose--- before you label someone a dog please find out a little bit more about the person before you make a judgement about them....
Anonymous said...
I answer my calls just like the CFD does. When the CFD drives around looking for fires, i'll start looking for crminals.
10/04/2012 03:53:00 AM
Wonderful comment!
And you wonder why the law abiding public, does not always support you.
Fools like you , do not help.
Actually by your own admission, YOU DON'T HELP.
Anonymous said...
Last night I wrote zero parkers, zero movers and zero contact cards. I'm a dog....
A dog that wrestled two mentals, spent 2 hours on a shooting, wrote a four car accident report, gave marital advice to a couple of crackheads, and handled about a dozen other bullshit disturbances.
I guess I didn't earn my paycheck.
10/04/2012 02:28:00 AM
See, you actually did paper and didn't even realize it. Not so hard , was it?
I believe , you may not be the one they're asking to do something.
Anonymous said...
Make a copy of this and get it to the trib and sun times.by the way contact cards violate a persons civil rights.where is pat camden and the fop on this issue?
10/04/2012 01:59:00 AM
Brilliant ideas . Go ahead and bring media attention to the fact that the brass is asking you poor souls to do your job.
If you guys put half as much effort into your work as you do whining here, there would be no need for the messages.
If that message was in 20dist only certian cars would get it , like the way LT.M.B. only talks to certian p.o. about activity. Another reason I dont do shit.Talk to all or talk to none of us.
This is great evidence for the Civil Rights lawsuits coming down the road where this stupid city will pay out millions!
Nice going bosses or should I say idiots in charge!
Da Pelon
For those that still believe this was photo shopped, I can personally tell yo that as a 004th District officer, I know the person that took this picture when the message came over the computer. This was also spoken about at roll call. So don't for one second assume its not real cause it is! Now if only the FOP gets off their ass and use this as an example to show everyone and anyone that we are short in manpower and forced to bring in activity.
Anonymous said...
To beat 430. I don't know who u r. But i do know 1 thing and that is.....u sir are a complete moron.
Oh. And I'm sure a merit hack as well.
10/04/2012 01:00:00 AM
Don't EVER refer to a fucking idiot like this as "Sir" for he is not worthy of the title. About his ONLY defense for this is coming up with the story that someone else sent that from his pdt, which gets him a day suspension minimum for failing to secure department vehicle or property. Same thing happened some years back in 011. That asshole 1130 on afternoons received an unsavory message from some outside units pdt. Guy didn't know the loser sergeant from Adam and explained that he musta hit the power door lock button the wrong way and someone else did the deed. But Jagoff Jeff still wrote him up for not securing the car and dude caught a day. So go ahead 430, try that story and see where it gets you, douchebag.
How about this you just cc the two taxpayers you meet on nonsense domestics. Problem solved.
Beautiful To/From! I love it! This is not just an imaginative joke from a very witty and smart cop, it is a piece of art! Seriously, if they ask me for a to-from, that is definitely the one I'm submitting! The cmdr will fudge her huggies when she sees it!!!
West Side, Inside Do-Nothing said...
Guess what, Sarge? I'm RDO tomorrow and here's what I've got planned:
Right after breakfast, I'll be heading to the UPS store to burn a couple hundred color copies of your "edict". The contact numbers to every local media outlet, the BGA and Loevy & Loevy will accompany this handout.
I will then spend the entire day driving around 004 passing out these flyers to the citizenry. Those that have the time to listen will be given a synopsis of how their civil liberties are potentially at stake thanks to an over zealous asshole sergeant that has a (Koolaid) drinking problem.
I will also encourage them to take preemptive actions to combat the possibility of their freedoms being restricted and/or their finances compromised via mandated ticket blitzes.
No worries, Sarge, I won't "out" you by name. The local preachers that'll descend upon the district to complain will get that information. So too will the media, and ultimately the civil rights attorneys.
The best part is I don't even work in 004. I've just had enough of hypocritical, idiot supervisors that tow the company line because they're spineless cowards or because they're actually stupid enough to try and throw decent coppers in the trick bag to further their own agenda.
So if you folks in 004 get calls of "Suspicious Person driving a maroon Camry handing out papers" today, please don't get hurt responding. That'll just be harmless old me empowering the people of the greater southeast side.
10/04/2012 01:21:00 AM
You sir are whats wrong with this Job
ANON said:
Anonymous said...
Last night I wrote zero parkers, zero movers and zero contact cards. I'm a dog....
A dog that wrestled two mentals, spent 2 hours on a shooting, wrote a four car accident report, gave marital advice to a couple of crackheads, and handled about a dozen other bullshit disturbances.
I guess I didn't earn my paycheck.
My friend you do earn your money just buy putting yourself in harm's way every night. Thank you and all the other CPD officers. There are still a lot of us left that appreciate your work and sacrifice.
Sincerely, Rich
I don't get paid for what I do every day. I get paid for what I might have to do one day!
I answer my calls just like the CFD does. When the CFD drives around looking for fires, i'll start looking for crminals.
Amen
this is a question for SCC and for p/o's
is it possible to go on a beat all day/night and not write a ticket?
contact or what ever?
thank you
Anonymous said...
Last night I wrote zero parkers, zero movers and zero contact cards. I'm a dog....
A dog that wrestled two mentals, spent 2 hours on a shooting, wrote a four car accident report, gave marital advice to a couple of crackheads, and handled about a dozen other bullshit disturbances.
I guess I didn't earn my paycheck.
10/04/2012 02:28:00 AM
You are my hero. I hope you didn't miss your lunch or personals.
this isnt north korea folks. we dont track people for no reason. this is still amerika. and hopfully after odumno was mopped up by romney last night we can try and put this country back on track
OT: The cost for health care for retirees who have left under the 55-59 plan is funded by the Federal Govt-not the pension board. Future retirees will be SOL for the plan.
looks like more bologna without breaq from cPD's triple merit
(he's a good guy) command staff
shieet i'll take a kid out of college with a management degree over 90% of our current exempts.
i wanna know if 430 actually demanded to/froms at end of shift? or was it all a bluff.
West Side, Inside Do-Nothing said...
Guess what, Sarge? I'm RDO tomorrow and here's what I've got planned:....
There are people reading this who would like to help you with this fine idea. Maybe an informal get together?
Let me (us) know.
Anybody talking about going to the press or media for anything, remember the they are not your friend. They will twist this around and make the police look bad, because that is their job.
Soon nobody will want this job,but I got it and I do my best and sometimes my best ain't good enough,but I guarantee you I sleep real good at night! Simply put I don't abuse my power!
Busier than a cat covering up sh-t on a linoleum rug!
Can't clear the homicides and can't stop the shootings but look at this stack of parking tickets my guys created. Ha! Preying on the weak like the gang bankers.
My, my, my are we supposed to be impressed by this or what?
Is this how you validate your self worth and ranking position and cover your failures?
Guess what?
We don't need more traffic ticket writers.
What we need is a stop to the shootings, robberies and beatings.
You're pissing off the working people that fund our jobs with this crap.
Penalizing the people trying to do things right, live by the rules with this petty stuff.
BLOODY CHICAGO: More than a murder a day, and it's only October. What can turn around America's 'lost' city?
USA TODAY, October 4, 2012, COVER STORY Page 1.
CLICK on BLOODY CHICAGO
This USA Today cover story was just posted on THEE (NYPD) RANT with over 19,000 views. CLICK on "BLOODY CHICAGO" - THEE RANT.
Commander Gross put his papers in this morning
Was the XO of 019 really a working cop? didn't know him until he got here. It's always ironic when some of the biggest dogs on the watch become bosses and then want you to go out and work your ass off for them.
Wow, I have never seen a bigger bunch of whiners on this department. Some moron took the time to create this to-from and another poster plans on making copies of this pcad message and giving it to the media, the BGA and asshole attorneys and driving around 004 to pass the fliers out to the citizens claiming "their civil liberties are potentially at stake"? These same "Police Officers" refuse to do any police work?
Before I get called a "hair-gel" or whatever, I have 26 yrs on and have worked on the street in a district every day of those 26. Has this departments hierarchy sucked and let us down? ABSOLUTELY!
Now I'm not saying you should hide in bushes and and get crazy but because the bosses want us to do some type of enforcement action you're gonna yell "quota" and alert the media? You sound like a total asshole by making these threats because you're asked to do your job. I don't agree with the contact card strong arm tactics unless it's at a crime scene or gangbangers or someone fits the description of a wanted offender. I would NEVER do a contact card on a law abiding decent citizen. That's not what they were meant for and for our bosses to demand them is out of line. They serve a useful purpose when used as they were intended and they were not originally intended as a form of "activity".
Maybe I'm wrong, as I only have a high school education and I'm sure I'm nowhere as book smart as 95% of this department, but I think being asked to produce minimal activity is not out of line. When I came on I worked with old timers who wouldn't dream of coming in with zeros. They had some PRIDE.
But these guys coming in with 1 Parker and handling 2 jobs totaling about an hour are a joke. And these are the same ones you'll never see at a hot call and who will lay down for 90 mins on a burglar alarm.
Sorry for the rant.
Be safe and back each other up!
All that written from some hegewish nice and cozy parking lot. while everyone is up north of 95th st. running from job to job. I give Sgt V credit for being in the box with us. You two sgt's from midnites are idiots.
Anonymous said...
I answer my calls just like the CFD does. When the CFD drives around looking for fires, i'll start looking for crminals.
10/04/2012 03:53:00 AM
I am not arguing with the sentiment, but that provides a very clear reason why "shall-issue" concealed carry is needed in Illinois. My brother ascribes to the "I carry a gun because a whole cop is too heavy" school of thought.
ECS
Cover your asses ladies and gentlemen, the state wants to change how they play the pension game. Vote no on the amendment and also vote republican for every office on the November ballot. Send a message to the thieves that we won't take their shit any longer. Onced we get honest politicians in office maybe it will trickle down to the CPD.
Rahmboooooooo Ommmmaaaaaaaaa!!
Make sure your Activity is to
Vote Vote Vote for MITT
I did 3 cc's yesterday: Steven Wonder, George Washington, and James J Walker. If I keep this up every day, sarge says everything will be dyn-o-mite!!!!
Cmdr Gross announced his retirement today smart enough to bail from a sinking ship, if you can retire and don't you are a idiot.
hahahahahahahahahah hahahahahha I can't stop laughing about this none sense hahahahahaha this police departement is a big joke...
well, we all know who took the picture and from which car... all you have to do is run the message number and it tells you from which car the particular message was sent and received... next time, cover up the message number. We will talk after roll call...
Right after breakfast, I'll be heading to the UPS store to burn a couple hundred color copies of your "edict". The contact numbers to every local media outlet, the BGA and Loevy & Loevy will accompany this handout.
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WOW!
For a lazy dude you sure have a lot of energy!
You're not paid for what you do, you're paid for what you're expected to do.
My God...you lazy good for nothing idiots spend more time on this blog discussing how you're going to do even MORE to game the job than just going out there and doing what you're paid to do...answer calls, conduct aggressive/preventive patrol, and take action where you see criminal behavior and statute violations occur. No one is asking any of your morons to go out there and imitate Superman....just do your jobs! If you're out there doing what you're supposed to be doing, you wouldn't even need to have this thread on the blog, because you'd have some fucking activity documented somewhere on a regular basis already! How any of you can go out on patrol approximately 16 days a month and come in with complete zeros is totally unacceptable. You've sent a message to your bosses that you just don't give a damn, and you tell me what boss is going to think that's acceptable, especially considering what you guys are paid in salary and benefits? If you're looking for support on this from the local citizenry, all I can say is don't hold your breath. Even Chicago Police can find themselves staring down the barrel of a layoff. It hasn't happened yet, but it certainly could. Wake up dummies!
1,2, 3 or 4 contact cards are pretty easy to come by during an entire tour. that being said, i have to also defend those officers that work in the busy districts that have back logs everyday on every watch, every week of every month. Those officers are responding to stacks jobs from the start of the tour to the end of the tour, never getting any free time to do pro active policing and sometimes not even getting lunch. So, If I was one of the many officers that have to deal with this and a boss wants me to drop paper, I would gladly drop paper but the bosses wouldnt like what I had to say because apparently, we dont have a manpower shortage. McCarthy & Rahm says so! hah
And you wonder why the law abiding public, does not always support you.
you are a joke, you would be the first loud mouthed complainer if we wrote YOU a ticket, or locked YOU up. Then we would be "that asshole chicago cop" gimem a fucking, you citizens dont know what the fuck you want, or whats good for you when it comes to policing.....and voting for the right politicians/judges/mayor, etc......
Gross gone on the 15th,. Yippie
Anonymous said...
Anybody talking about going to the press or media for anything, remember the they are not your friend. They will twist this around and make the police look bad, because that is their job.
10/04/2012 12:23:00 PM
West Side, Inside Do-Nothing said...
Guess what, Sarge? I'm RDO tomorrow and here's what I've got planned:
Right after breakfast, I'll be heading to the UPS store to burn a couple hundred color copies of your "edict". The contact numbers to every local media outlet, the BGA and Loevy & Loevy will accompany this handout.
I will then spend the entire day driving around 004 passing out these flyers to the citizenry. Those that have the time to listen will be given a synopsis of how their civil liberties are potentially at stake thanks to an over zealous asshole sergeant that has a (Koolaid) drinking problem.
I will also encourage them to take preemptive actions to combat the possibility of their freedoms being restricted and/or their finances compromised via mandated ticket blitzes.
No worries, Sarge, I won't "out" you by name. The local preachers that'll descend upon the district to complain will get that information. So too will the media, and ultimately the civil rights attorneys.
The best part is I don't even work in 004. I've just had enough of hypocritical, idiot supervisors that tow the company line because they're spineless cowards or because they're actually stupid enough to try and throw decent coppers in the trick bag to further their own agenda.
So if you folks in 004 get calls of "Suspicious Person driving a maroon Camry handing out papers" today, please don't get hurt responding. That'll just be harmless old me empowering the people of the greater southeast side.
10/04/2012 01:21:00 AM
You sir are whats wrong with this Job
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
To the contrary, he or she is what is RIGHT with the job today. Refusing to be bullied into putting their very livelihood in the crosshairs for a department and city that will leave them twisting in the wind once the Civil Rights violation lawsuit is filed.
RIGHT for not further driving the wedge between the citizens and a police department that is already vilified for our every action.
This officer is RIGHT to preach self preservation given the current atmosphere. I refuse to gamble with my assets I earned over two-plus decades thru blood, sweat and tears; your pension is already under attack in case you haven't noticed.
Do you really feel like rolling the dice with your deferred comp or other investments? All it takes is a sympathetic jury (and they're EVERYWHERE these days in case you weren't paying attention) to drop the hammer for punitive damages - just ask those coppers who paid out of pocket for bullshit DOPW pinches...ALL BECAUSE THEY FELT THEY HAD TO PRODUCE NUMBERS AT THE REQUEST OF SOME "BOSSHOLE" (copyright of WSIDN).
As far as notifying the media? The officer never said he or she'd do that. The citizens will. And there ain't no such thing as the "media making us look bad" when what's being force fed to the troops IS bad.
What he is saying is basically sandbag someone or violate there civil rights,who cares how you get this activity, just get.
Soon nobody will want this job,but I got it and I do my best and sometimes my best ain't good enough,but I guarantee you I sleep real good at night! Simply put I don't abuse my power!
10/04/2012 12:29:00 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Busier than a cat covering up sh-t on a linoleum rug!
Can't clear the homicides and can't stop the shootings but look at this stack of parking tickets my guys created. Ha! Preying on the weak like the gang bangers..
So ticket the Bangers.
Target the shit out of the bangers. We all know what they look like and where they hang out, and as they are the scum of the earth (not as bad as the 5th floor or 35th street) they deserve the hassle.
Hit some curfew violators', that's easy activity and since you're just going to contact card them (no revenue to the city on that).
Anonymous said...
I don't get paid for what I do every day. I get paid for what I might have to do one day!
10/04/2012 11:19:00 AM
No, that is incorrect.
You get paid for what you do every day. However, one day you may actually have to earn it.
011 2nd Watch DOG said...
Anonymous said...
Hey there Bid Guy ---- You think because you have a bid I can't fuck with you? No, your watch can't be changed but there are so many other ways. Maybe you'll see a little more when I out you in that busy intersection to direct traffic and have the sergeant drop you off, or maybe standing surveillance at that vacant lot where the dope boys are hiding their work. Yea, I know, you'll sue me for picking on you or something like that, but just remember, as the boss I have discretion on your work assignments. Most of us only ask for a little, your the jagofff that is bringing heat on everyone. Do your fucking job, or at least a little something to earn your pay, or I can help you to accomplish that task that you are finding so difficult.
you mean 004 2nd watch D.K.
When I came on I worked with old timers who wouldn't dream of coming in with zeros. They had some PRIDE.
***********
Hey fuckstick, "pride" in yourself doesn't come from sandbagging the locals for bullshit just to make your fucking boss happy.
See, "we" old timers are well fucking aware that this bullshit they cry for means nothing and will accomplish nothing, unless you mean make some more cash for the weasel fuckhead to pitch to his fucking buddies for campaign contributions. If fucking over the locals for Emanuel cash, or hindering the general public to demand their personal information before letting them be on their way makes you feel "proud" to be a fucking police officer then you never did and don't belong on the business of policing.
The fucking purpose of a police officer is well defined in ILCS. And succombing to threats of retaliation for failure to harrass the locals for their personal information or lying in wait to ensnare someone who rolls through a stop sign AIN'T FUCKING IT DOUCHEBAG.
Have some fucking pride in the fact that show up every fucking day and perform the job function the state law ordains you to do, which is to fucking SERVE the public around you by responding to their requests for your service and giving them the due courtesy they ask for in the process.
"Pride" from harrassing the public, Rahm taxing them to death and making them lose time at work in court? I say fuck you shitbag, get another fucking job because licking the dick of pantywaiste asskissing bosses who hide behind their gold stars looking for more cash handouts from a promotion ain't what an oldtimer calls fucking "pride".
What galls me the most? The fact that most of these shithead bosses know full well what needs to be done to blunt the rampant crime in this city, yet they hide like little pussies bobbing on their knees for a chance for a promotion because THAT'S the culture of the police department as the politicians have demanded.
Now go back to your little hole and write a few more contact cards, sandbag that old lady who parked the nose of her car 6 inches past the hydrant mark, or go fuck that guy on his way to his pissant job because he made a fucking right hand turn on a red at 7:05 in the morning, you fucking douche.
RE: Dogs..
You know what the dog said when he slid down the sandpaper don't ya?
Rrrruff!
This officer is one hell of an officer and an even better person.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-offduty-cop-chases-down-teen-robber-in-roscoe-village-20121004,0,5319947.story
Anonymous said...
Cover your asses ladies and gentlemen, the state wants to change how they play the pension game. Vote no on the amendment and also vote republican for every office on the November ballot. Send a message to the thieves that we won't take their shit any longer. Onced we get honest politicians in office maybe it will trickle down to the CPD.
10/04/2012 02:54:00 PM
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Why not take it a step further beyond the vote.
These companies that are funding these peoples political propaganda with campaign donations, it's time to boycott their businesses.
The only thing they understand is the money.
Anonymous said...
Last night I wrote zero parkers, zero movers and zero contact cards. I'm a dog....
A dog that wrestled two mentals, spent 2 hours on a shooting, wrote a four car accident report, gave marital advice to a couple of crackheads, and handled about a dozen other bullshit disturbances.
I guess I didn't earn my paycheck.
10/04/2012 02:28:00 AM
Amen brother.
Anonymous said...
I answer my calls just like the CFD does. When the CFD drives around looking for fires, i'll start looking for crminals.
10/04/2012 03:53:00 AM
Thanks. I just snorted a noodle. !
and to the goofs that say the public like the working police-go give them movers and parkers.just tell them you need activity.they will kiss your feet leaving traffic ct $200.00 lighter
2 28 am summed it up the best. We go to domestics, we do accident reports we do hospital details we sit on crime scenes!!!!! But to all the super cops out here that is a dog. You guys just don't get it. Its not about writing the contact cards and doing movers, its about ignorant bosses wanting you to do activity so they look good to justify their positions.
Its all smoke and mirrors and you young guys don't get it. I used to love writing movers to gangbangers to piss them off and if they were suspended I would do a physical arrest and impound their cars. Does that make me a super cop? NO it does not. I just liked doing it cause the gangbanger does not care about getting arrested but he sure flips out when his RIDE is taken away.
The whole point is not about writing the contact cards or bringing in revenue to the city, it is about not letting a dumb ass merit boss tell you to inflate the index and create smoke and mirrors.
Answer your calls and back each other up, wake up guys its not about writing movers, parkers, contact cards. Its about bosses bullying you into this bullshit so they can look good at a compstat meeting.
Anonymous said...
I don't get paid for what I do every day. I get paid for what I might have to do one day!
10/04/2012 11:19:00 AM
Truer words were never spoken. I put myself in harm's way every time I show up to work.
Anonymous said...
Hey there Bid Guy ---- You think because you have a bid I can't fuck with you? No, your watch can't be changed but there are so many other ways. Maybe you'll see a little more when I out you in that busy intersection to direct traffic and have the sergeant drop you off, or maybe standing surveillance at that vacant lot where the dope boys are hiding their work. Yea, I know, you'll sue me for picking on you or something like that, but just remember, as the boss I have discretion on your work assignments. Most of us only ask for a little, your the jagofff that is bringing heat on everyone. Do your fucking job, or at least a little something to earn your pay, or I can help you to accomplish that task that you are finding so difficult.
10/03/2012 07:12:00 PM
Hey fuckface. Post your name. I'd be happy to sign up to be under your 'command.' For the love of God, I don't know what has happened to this job.
You are disgusting. Do you eat mcjack's turds?
Jeez!
Lookit all the bosses crying on the blog about coppers Policing strictly by the numbers...
There is NOTHING in the LAW that says coppers must generate activity aka revenue for the city.
There is PLENTY in the LAW and PLENTY of historical and legal precedent of coppers being dangled because they acted on a stupidvisor sent nasty-gram to "generate activity or else we'll fuck with you."
Overall this shit is stupid.
Coppers aren't as weak-minded or as willing to throw their careers away as bosses would like for them to be.
As one elder subject matter expert once said, "These make believe bosses have no idea how expert the real street cop is at surviving."
These are mean times for the Police. Bosses aren't liking the fact that coppers are adapting and governing themselves accordingly.
These crying bosses will fall over each other running from you the second a whiff of bad ju-ju is detected.
DO NOT BE THE ONE standing in the defendant's box.
Ironic that the FEDS (yes those same FEDS who are here rifling through disabled coppers underwear drawer due to a Rahm & Co. inspired hit piece) are going to dank on the asses of MANY COPPERS at NYPD and Newark P.D. (Hi Garry! Whatta co-inky-dence huh?) over this silly assed "stop every swinging dick, hanging tit and bad hair-piece" to "record" their info.
These same bosses rolling around on the ground foaming at the mouth & biting themselves over the fact that coppers are in deep survival mode, will be the same ones saying "sucks to be you, Office" when a swift attorney gets ahold of a copper who "generated activity" under duress...
GOD forbid the FEDS pick up McStupid's trail and follow him to Chicago to dank on a few unsuspecting coppers here.
"Uhh... Officer? We can appreciate you were given an order but it's your ass in the defendant's box. Not your supervisor's."
Answer your calls promptly. Drop a report as needed. Disengage quickly. Chit-chat with nobody that isn't a copper and be choosy even then. Arrest on a signed complaint only. By all means get involved when you see someone doing something dangerous and deeply stupid that would endanger innocents and passers-by.
Let Darwin and the Grim Reaper take the rest and call for a clean up afterwards.
Protect yourselves. DO NOT expose yourselves to unnecessary career and financial harm to please these bosses.
"WAH! Do You Jobs! Have Some Pride! Generate Activity Damn You!"
Policemen do their jobs just fine for the most part.
The "Pride" you jokers rotate your dentures about will have many a copper leaving somebody's court house walking somewhere other than his home with a hefty steel sack with all he could carry and his pockets turned inside out...
Be safe... Be smart.
You can check the sheets but everyone got that message. One sender. Dont blame the desk crew
in 004. BTW everyone took a picture to reference it in the to - from.
Anonymous said...
Commander Gross put his papers in this morning
10/04/2012 02:16:00 PM
From California where he's at a conference?
When I was a sergeant in 003 , years ago, early 90s, we had the same thing going on with George Sams. Remember him? The guy who was arrested in Berwyn and let go? I designed a standard fill in the blanks to from that I submitted every night that I need to compy with his directives. I quoted the patrol division orders on activity every 30 minutes which just about everyone has. That is all that is required of a police officer and a supervisor. Nothing was ever said about this. Just dont put foolish and stupid things in your report and dont put in threats. It will come back to haunt you. Every emeployer has the right to set certain standards, they might not be right or good, but theyhave that right. This is a job after all.
I still come in with zeros across the board. Every single day! And yes I am proud of it. Why should I go out there and fuck with the honest citizens? Honest people who are having a hard time making ends meet?
What is even more pathetic is how some of us officers can be easily scared. I know numerous p.o.'s who after being counseled now come with all sorts of activity. I've been counseled and written up. I don't fucking care.
I am not a dog. I work hard, I do my best and I support my fellow co workers.
Sure, Sgt V is all about the Box and drinking the Kool Aid. I am happy the two Sgts want work out south. Every copper in 022 and 16 should do the same.
So I am looking at the PERFORMANCE RECOGNITION SYSTEM the other day.
I am a SGT and I analyzed the activity of the men/women in our district.
CONTACT CARDS stuck out.....
Some of the numbers stuck out and are just ridiculous. Example the majority of Tactical Officers have over 150-some near 400.
Some of the aggressive watch officers have in the 100's . An average aggressive officer has 50-100 on the 3rd and 1st watch. 2nd watch some had in the 30's to 60's.
The desk or dogs or whatever classification you have for these Officers have anywher from 0 to maybe 25.
I am a sgt. I have near 35.
My point?
Well we are a NORTHSIDE district that realistically has only so many REAL situations or SHITHEADS where you SHOULD be writing these fucking things on contact cards.
It used to be you only did a contact card when necessary or to cover yourself on a stop or to inform or take notes on a significant thing.
NOW
I see all these coppers running around like secretaries documenting names and BULLSHIT 15 times on the same motherfuckers in a day just to appease someone.
Totally useless and confusing but now a MAJOR part of being a GOOD aggressive police officer in the City of Chicago......ARE WE SERIOUS????
Sorry to say but I BLAME THE TRU UNIT .....I think this stupid insanity started with them and their need for activity to prove their existence or something!
PIMPY PETTY BULLSHIT when you should just lock dude up!
Someone ought to really take a closer look at QUALITY OVER QUANTITY.....its crazy!!!!!!
What are we really accomplishing with this activity?
watch your back with mlas oneill
Ya really man the 2 Sgts from midnights give a shit about the actual taxpayers. Who the fuck can complain about that? You think the 30 sector tax payers give a shit what happens in the 20 sector? The only time the tax payers should care is when some of those 20 sector shitheads go looting in the 30 sector. SGT D is a great guy.. get to know him 3rd watch
Anonymous said...
Commander Gross put his papers in this morning
10/04/2012 02:16:00 PM
From California where he's at a conference?
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I saw him and shook his hand this morning at HQ so you've got bad info on that.
The xo from 19 is the biggest jagoff you could ever regret meeting. This is what happens when someone is merit promoted numerous times and has no police or people skills. yeah, sure, he was a great copper, just ask him.
Anonymous said...
Was the XO of 019 really a working cop? didn't know him until he got here. It's always ironic when some of the biggest dogs on the watch become bosses and then want you to go out and work your ass off for them.
10/04/2012 02:23:00 PM
Love him or hate him ... yes; Captain MR was the real police and a working copper.
Anonymous said...
I answer my calls just like the CFD does. When the CFD drives around looking for fires, i'll start looking for crminals.
10/04/2012 03:53:00 AM
Spoke like the TRUE DOG you are. No wonder things are screwed up on this department. The funny thing is, if they paid you by the amount of activity produced, you'd be leading the pack.
10/04/2012 08:29:00 AM
I know a police officer in my district who says that the streets run with gold. Damn if he is going to work for minimum wage. He writes tickets by the boatload, dui's every night, felonies several times a week and is in court 5 days a week. He works hard.
For that some months he earns another 50% or more of his paycheck and has been maxed out in deferred comp for years and has loads in savings and brokerage accounts.
He works for himself, not for bosses. Want to make more money? Get out there and work. You have the power to control your own income, drive around dogging it and you are just leaving cash money on the table.
The choice is yours.
And on the same note, people in my district have been served a 4 year old CR number!, as well as the 2 who have been sent to call back in the last 6 weeks. The partner of one of those now in 376 doesn't get within 20 feet of any arrest. Good guys who did their jobs. Now do the bosses understand no activity? Especially the crazy contact cards?
Sure, back in the day we had IBM type cards known as contact cards, but they were only used for holding doors open. Used the missile x cards for your jobs, cause they had no writing on the back. Lot more work got done, too. You could move on and stop the next shithead instead of writing a novel about it, then going into the station and putting your novel on the computer like you do today. But today's police are data collection/entry clerks, not law enforcers.
Read the article about the 'fusion' centers a few days ago? Something like a billion bucks spent, and no terrorists to show for it.
When I came on I worked with old timers who wouldn't dream of coming in with zeros. They had some PRIDE.
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Hey fuckstick, "pride" in yourself doesn't come from sandbagging the locals for bullshit just to make your fucking boss happy.
See, "we" old timers are well fucking aware that this bullshit they cry for means nothing and will accomplish nothing, unless you mean make some more cash for the weasel fuckhead to pitch to his fucking buddies for campaign contributions. If fucking over the locals for Emanuel cash, or hindering the general public to demand their personal information before letting them be on their way makes you feel "proud" to be a fucking police officer then you never did and don't belong on the business of policing.
The fucking purpose of a police officer is well defined in ILCS. And succombing to threats of retaliation for failure to harrass the locals for their personal information or lying in wait to ensnare someone who rolls through a stop sign AIN'T FUCKING IT DOUCHEBAG.
Have some fucking pride in the fact that show up every fucking day and perform the job function the state law ordains you to do, which is to fucking SERVE the public around you by responding to their requests for your service and giving them the due courtesy they ask for in the process.
"Pride" from harrassing the public, Rahm taxing them to death and making them lose time at work in court? I say fuck you shitbag, get another fucking job because licking the dick of pantywaiste asskissing bosses who hide behind their gold stars looking for more cash handouts from a promotion ain't what an oldtimer calls fucking "pride".
What galls me the most? The fact that most of these shithead bosses know full well what needs to be done to blunt the rampant crime in this city, yet they hide like little pussies bobbing on their knees for a chance for a promotion because THAT'S the culture of the police department as the politicians have demanded.
Now go back to your little hole and write a few more contact cards, sandbag that old lady who parked the nose of her car 6 inches past the hydrant mark, or go fuck that guy on his way to his pissant job because he made a fucking right hand turn on a red at 7:05 in the morning, you fucking douche.
10/04/2012 05:37:00 PM
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Spoken like a true bust-out of a police officer! You try to make any excuse for not doing your job. Whoever said you had to write a ticket to the people in your examples above? If you can't find a piece of shit gangbanger and hammer him for a legit reason, you obviously blow balls as a police officer or you're afraid to work in the ghetto. Quit this job. Sounds like you'd make a better busboy than a policeman.
You're a handjob!
Anonymous said...
I still come in with zeros across the board. Every single day! And yes I am proud of it. Why should I go out there and fuck with the honest citizens? Honest people who are having a hard time making ends meet?
What is even more pathetic is how some of us officers can be easily scared. I know numerous p.o.'s who after being counseled now come with all sorts of activity. I've been counseled and written up. I don't fucking care.
I am not a dog. I work hard, I do my best and I support my fellow co workers.
10/04/2012 06:45:00 PM
Who said you have to "fuck with the honest citizens" or "honest people who are having a hard time making ends meet"? If you can't spot a piece of shit to write, you're just not trying. It's not that hard.
"If you guys put half as much effort into your work as you do whining here, there would be no need for the messages."
Yeah, because paperwork production = job justification.
Even if it's all for looks.
I won't be alone in the civil suit. I'm taking a boss or two with me!
"Hey there Bid Guy ---- You think because you have a bid I can't fuck with you?"
Clearly you haven't been around long enough to remember the detective on the Central Avenue bridge counting red cars & blue cars, eh?
Ask someone with some time on what happened in that case, kid.
When I came on I worked with old timers who wouldn't dream of coming in with zeros. They had some PRIDE.
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Hey fuckstick, "pride" in yourself doesn't come from sandbagging the locals for bullshit just to make your fucking boss happy.
See, "we" old timers are well fucking aware that this bullshit they cry for means nothing and will accomplish nothing, unless you mean make some more cash for the weasel fuckhead to pitch to his fucking buddies for campaign contributions. If fucking over the locals for Emanuel cash, or hindering the general public to demand their personal information before letting them be on their way makes you feel "proud" to be a fucking police officer then you never did and don't belong on the business of policing.
The fucking purpose of a police officer is well defined in ILCS. And succombing to threats of retaliation for failure to harrass the locals for their personal information or lying in wait to ensnare someone who rolls through a stop sign AIN'T FUCKING IT DOUCHEBAG.
Have some fucking pride in the fact that show up every fucking day and perform the job function the state law ordains you to do, which is to fucking SERVE the public around you by responding to their requests for your service and giving them the due courtesy they ask for in the process.
"Pride" from harrassing the public, Rahm taxing them to death and making them lose time at work in court? I say fuck you shitbag, get another fucking job because licking the dick of pantywaiste asskissing bosses who hide behind their gold stars looking for more cash handouts from a promotion ain't what an oldtimer calls fucking "pride".
What galls me the most? The fact that most of these shithead bosses know full well what needs to be done to blunt the rampant crime in this city, yet they hide like little pussies bobbing on their knees for a chance for a promotion because THAT'S the culture of the police department as the politicians have demanded.
Now go back to your little hole and write a few more contact cards, sandbag that old lady who parked the nose of her car 6 inches past the hydrant mark, or go fuck that guy on his way to his pissant job because he made a fucking right hand turn on a red at 7:05 in the morning, you fucking douche.
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You, Sir or M'aam, are someone I am proud to call a Chicago Police Officer.
You have figured "it" out.
You realize what time it is on this job.
You've obviously paid your dues and are a person of character and high morality.
You've been around long enough to know how this job really works and are no doubt secure in your assessments, actions and judgements.
There isn't a doubt in my mind that you are fair, impartial, compassionate and professional when the situation calls for it.
I'd partner-up with you any day. Folks like us are truly few and far between.
"this is a question for SCC and for p/o's
is it possible to go on a beat all day/night and not write a ticket?
contact or what ever?"
Yes. There's no quota or requirement that we write either.
Think about the implications of a ticket quota: We go out & write all kinds of tickets because some apparatchik says that we should? What if you or a member of your family got a ticket because of a quota? Would you be happy?
"I carry a gun because a whole cop is too heavy"
I carry a gun because I can't throw a rock a 1100 fps.
"You've sent a message to your bosses that you just don't give a damn..."
That message came to US FROM ABOVE, FIRST.
We're just responding in kind.
If they're not backing me up, why will I stick my neck out for them?
We're not just talking about parkers and contact cards here, we're talking about the whole ball of wax.
There are BIG problems on this department, and they begin AT THE TOP. The parkers & contact cards are merely a symptom of the problem.
If Weis hadn't shit-canned the infamous "Morale & Stress Survey" results, both sides would know a lot more about the problems on this department.
As with any job, there will always be a few who don't do anything and a few Supermen (and Superwomen), but when the people in between those two extremes of the spectrum start laying down, you've got big problems.
We have A TON of bosses who never were the police. All they can do is count things, like an autistic child. It's all they know. They are unable to motivate coppers because everyone knows that they're posers.
Anyone with any time on the job knows that threats will not result in the desired actions. As a matter of fact, threats will often evoke the opposite response, particularly with coppers.
What we're seeing now is the result of the "housecleaning" that began under Weis and that has continued under McCarthy. Yes, they got rid of the "old boy" network, the bosses who had a lot of connections inside and outside of the department. But those were also the bosses who knew how to get things done, who knew how to motivate people-with rewards, not punishment. Sure there were some bosses that we were glad to see go, as with any organization.
You're also seeing the results of the "brain drain"; the retirement of a lot of highly-experienced coppers, men & women who knew the job and actually did the nuts & bolts work that an effective police department needs to perform effectively. Many of these people left when it was clear that they'd never get promoted, weren't going anywhere and there was no reason to stay. Yes, some of them we were glad to see go, too. But now that all that experience is gone, who has replaced them?
The funniest part about this nonsense is parkers and contact cards aren't going to help the out of control homicide rate in Chicago. It will just make CPD look busy.
rb
" If you're looking for support on this from the local citizenry, all I can say is don't hold your breath."
RIGHT! The citizens LOVE IT when they get a ticket!
When I write one, I like to credit the "Mayor's Traffic Safety Program"!
I don't believe the citizens care if I write a contact card or issue a ticket (unless it's to them).
Nice try, though.
rb
"...take action where you see criminal behavior and statute violations occur..."
Misdemeanor arrest: A failure by police to keep the peace.
Felony arrest: A failure by police to prevent a crime.
"where is pat camden and the fop on this issue?"
"Perhaps the FOP should consult with it's attorneys and provide us with a statement when we are compelled to write one."
"Now if only the FOP gets off their ass and use this as an example to show everyone and anyone..."
Go there. Write a letter. Call them. Contact them via the computer. DIRECTLY.
Don't just hope they'll read your inquiry here. When they're flooded with questions, they'll have to act.
Or just sit there and hope someone else takes action.
Fraternal Order of Police
Chicago Lodge 7
1412 W. Washington Blvd.
Chicago, Illinois 60607-1821
Phone: 312-733-7776
http://www.chicagofop.org/contact-us/
2 28 am summed it up the best. We go to domestics, we do accident reports we do hospital details we sit on crime scenes!!!!! But to all the super cops out here that is a dog. .
Yes, when it takes you two hours on each job that is more than likely a 1p or 19p, your a dog. Accident reports on a two car crash shouldn't take more than 1 hour tops, and that's with writing movers and not having a pdt. The dogs are the ones complaining about activity, one contact card from that 2 hour domestic is activity, stop finding excuses to justify yourself being lazy.
To the contrary, he or she is what is RIGHT with the job today. Refusing to be bullied into putting their very livelihood in the crosshairs for a department and city that will leave them twisting in the wind once the Civil Rights violation lawsuit is filed.
RIGHT for not further driving the wedge between the citizens and a police department that is already vilified for our every action.
This officer is RIGHT to preach self preservation given the current atmosphere. I refuse to gamble with my assets I earned over two-plus decades thru blood, sweat and tears; your pension is already under attack in case you haven't noticed.
Do you really feel like rolling the dice with your deferred comp or other investments? All it takes is a sympathetic jury (and they're EVERYWHERE these days in case you weren't paying attention) to drop the hammer for punitive damages - just ask those coppers who paid out of pocket for bullshit DOPW pinches...ALL BECAUSE THEY FELT THEY HAD TO PRODUCE NUMBERS AT THE REQUEST OF SOME "BOSSHOLE" (copyright of WSIDN).
As far as notifying the media? The officer never said he or she'd do that. The citizens will. And there ain't no such thing as the "media making us look bad" when what's being force fed to the troops IS bad.
10/04/2012 04:46:00 PM
You are right ... then you should quit and get out before you get your no balls self jammed up or jam up someone with your spineless attitude ... you should have never been the police in the 1st place.
But now that all that experience is gone, who has replaced them?
rb
10/04/2012 11:28:00 PM
me.
Chalkie
Um...come in for check off at your end of watch with no activity and take 30 mins to write an acceptibale TO/From for the chief. Hand the O.T. slip to the boss.
Cmdr Gross announced his retirement today smart enough to bail from a sinking ship, if you can retire and don't you are a idiot.
Gross has proven himself to already be among the established ranks of idiots. It was him who snapped that photo of that arrestee in Philly that forced out McCotter because Aunt Bea went to bat for and protected Gross from any discipline for it.
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
I have to be at work for 8 hrs a day.You want me to count red and blue cars,fine by me. Fuck the other p.o.'s with my jobs.SMART. Signed day bid spot.
You've obviously paid your dues and are a person of character and high morality.
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Right! A person who makes EXCUSES rather than DOES.
A person who has a need to use foul language in order to get his lame point across.
As a citizen , I'd hate to have contact with this officer (or his supporters) of such 'high moral ' values. Please do us all a favor and stay at the coffee shop, we don't need your kind of assistance. The type we've all seen, who can exacerbate the situation, rather than curtail it. To ALL those who have called out this fool, THANK YOU for your service. You are what the citizens want and need.
BTW, the ILCS does state, your JOB is to ENFORCE those laws.
I answer my calls just like the CFD does. When the CFD drives around looking for fires, i'll start looking for crminals.
10/04/2012 03:53:00 AM
Spoke like the TRUE DOG you are. No wonder things are screwed up on this department. The funny thing is, if they paid you by the amount of activity produced, you'd be leading the pack.
Ah, the camaraderie brings a tear to my eye.
I always love it when I hear the DOG label being used. The user is usually some copper who has less than 5 years on.
A person like this will fall into one of the three following categories......1) They are on a watch they hate and believe that if they continue to increase their activity, they will get either the car or start time they desire; put on TACT or, come Nov, get a bid spot on the watch they WANT. 2)They already have a bid spot on the watch they WANT and believe that to increase the chances of staying on that watch, they must continue to bring in the numbers. And finally 3)The CLOUT factor. Mommy, Daddy or some other relative is already on the job. A simple phone call or conversation at the weekly family dinner and VOLA! they magically appear on the watch they want (and 9 out of 10 times it will be days because they do have family to take care of).
When I came on I worked with old timers who wouldn't dream of coming in with zeros. They had some PRIDE.
But these guys coming in with 1 Parker and handling 2 jobs totaling about an hour are a joke. And these are the same ones you'll never see at a hot call and who will lay down for 90 mins on a burglar alarm.
Sorry for the rant.
Be safe and back each other up!
10/04/2012 02:35:00 PM
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WOW!
You sir, have spoke with some common sense at a time when common sense is not so common.
Thank you for your service. Stay safe.
Ret. ISP
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
I don't get paid for what I do every day. I get paid for what I might have to do one day!
That statement has more to do with the HIGHER pay compared to someone in the regular work force. Unfortunately the statement has become the 'anthem' of the slugs.
The true meaning is that you do get paid to do work every day and that is to ENFORCE the law, no matter how trivial you may feel it is. The HIGHER pay is for the dangers you may face, while performing your daily duties.
To sit on your ass and WAIT for something that you MAY have to do is BS and a cop-out.
It's a sinking ship because of the crew that doesn't do anything.
THIS
Anonymous said...
Wow, I have never seen a bigger bunch of whiners on this department. Some moron took the time to create this to-from and another poster plans on making copies of this pcad message and giving it to the media, the BGA and asshole attorneys and driving around 004 to pass the fliers out to the citizens claiming "their civil liberties are potentially at stake"? These same "Police Officers" refuse to do any police work?
Before I get called a "hair-gel" or whatever, I have 26 yrs on and have worked on the street in a district every day of those 26. Has this departments hierarchy sucked and let us down? ABSOLUTELY!
Now I'm not saying you should hide in bushes and and get crazy but because the bosses want us to do some type of enforcement action you're gonna yell "quota" and alert the media? You sound like a total asshole by making these threats because you're asked to do your job. I don't agree with the contact card strong arm tactics unless it's at a crime scene or gangbangers or someone fits the description of a wanted offender. I would NEVER do a contact card on a law abiding decent citizen. That's not what they were meant for and for our bosses to demand them is out of line. They serve a useful purpose when used as they were intended and they were not originally intended as a form of "activity".
Maybe I'm wrong, as I only have a high school education and I'm sure I'm nowhere as book smart as 95% of this department, but I think being asked to produce minimal activity is not out of line. When I came on I worked with old timers who wouldn't dream of coming in with zeros. They had some PRIDE.
But these guys coming in with 1 Parker and handling 2 jobs totaling about an hour are a joke. And these are the same ones you'll never see at a hot call and who will lay down for 90 mins on a burglar alarm.
Sorry for the rant.
Be safe and back each other up!
10/04/2012 02:35:00 PM
Contact cards, parkers & movers only make YOU look busy. How about getting a handle on this murder rate. Fucking over John Q. Public is not gonna get it. And the brass wonders why the public at large isn't forthcoming with information when most every encounter with CPD results in a parker or mover...SMDH with frustration.
How can a copper allow some other copper or blog to dictate what kind of workers he or she is?
Better late than never. Saw Russ Willingham made Sgt. Congrats from a retiree.
The two Sgts. from midnights could run circles around Sgt."V". Thank God those of US that live out south have Sgts. that give a S*!t about US! Sgt.V could care less about US or YOU!
I answer my calls just like the CFD does. When the CFD drives around looking for fires, i'll start looking for crminals.
I don't agree with what the higher ups are doing, but your statement is embarrassing. Your job is to arrest criminals, you idiot. That is why you drive around in the squad car. Please do not post anything anymore. You are a pooch.
I've known the three Sgts. from 004 referred to above for a long time. Believe me, the two that came from midinights are the type you want to work for and with. If any are kissing butt it's Sgt. "V".
Anonymous said...
"Hey there Bid Guy ---- You think because you have a bid I can't fuck with you?"
Clearly you haven't been around long enough to remember the detective on the Central Avenue bridge counting red cars & blue cars, eh?
Ask someone with some time on what happened in that case, kid.
10/04/2012 10:55:00 PM
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Just another blueshirt here, but was curious about the above statement- why was a det. counting cars on central ave? Sounds like a good story.
To the people who post here,
Why did you take this job?
Gross has proven himself to already be among the established ranks of idiots. It was him who snapped that photo of that arrestee in Philly that forced out McCotter because Aunt Bea went to bat for and protected Gross from any discipline for it.
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
McCotter was a legend in his own mind
Last night I wrote zero parkers, zero movers and zero contact cards. I'm a dog....
A dog that wrestled two mentals, spent 2 hours on a shooting, wrote a four car accident report, gave marital advice to a couple of crackheads, and handled about a dozen other bullshit disturbances.
I guess I didn't earn my paycheck.
10/04/2012 02:28:00 AM
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Well your a dumb dog then; I see at least 4 contact cards and a TRR in your description.
The funniest part about this nonsense is parkers and contact cards aren't going to help the out of control homicide rate in Chicago. It will just make CPD look busy.
rb
10/04/2012 11:28:00 PM
AMEN!
You also forgot how the exempts (because they aint "Bosses"!) are tossing Officers and Sgts under the bus when it comes to saving thier own ass.
E.E.O.C. !
X/O of Belmont was an extremely intense "working copper" so when in doubt just follow his work ethic. It's a do as I say not as do mentality.
Rules by whatever whacked out emotion has possessed em for that bit of time. Some1 please administer the mood stability meds.
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Old Habits die hard. Its not Belmont anymore, Rahm fucked that up! Capt. Mike is a Dickhead! But he likes it that way! He's a Jagoff! there is a special place in Hell for Assholes like him!
Hey there Bid Guy ---- You think because you have a bid I can't fuck with you? No, your watch can't be changed but there are so many other ways. Maybe you'll see a little more when I out you in that busy intersection to direct traffic and have the sergeant drop you off, or maybe standing surveillance at that vacant lot where the dope boys are hiding their work. Yea, I know, you'll sue me for picking on you or something like that, but just remember, as the boss I have discretion on your work assignments. Most of us only ask for a little, your the jagofff that is bringing heat on everyone. Do your fucking job, or at least a little something to earn your pay, or I can help you to accomplish that task that you are finding so difficult.-----------------------------------------
Oh Your a Tuff Boss!! How about signing your Name!
1st and the 16th!!!!!! Thats it ladies and gentlemen. If someone can show me an order that says I have to come in with activity Ill get to it tonight, till then Ill answer my calls back up my fellow officers and do what is the most important thing above any activity and thats GO HOME!!!! Take pride in going home! They deny everything but some still come in with activity?
10:28 AM ("Just another blueshirt")
See Smith v. Martin, et al., 819 F.Supp 733 (1992)
Anonymous said...
To the people who post here,
Why did you take this job?
10/05/2012 10:59:00 AM
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Yea, Since you posted here, tell us why you took the job.
I'd say 2 in 10 contact cards are actually legit. That is where coppers actually have "probable cause" to stop someone to write one.
Now with these young guys "forced" to write them just to get some overtime, or by idiot supervisors, this will all blow up. Its right up there with the phone book curfews, except you are actually stopping people for nothing and writing/running them.
Citizens are actually supposed to be left alone unless you have probable cause. No really, the Constitution says that. Just wait and see if these jackoffs take the heat for a phoney stop you make due to their pressure.
Anonymous said...
To the people who post here,
Why did you take this job?
10/05/2012 10:59:00 AM
Because the Marines and Army didn't want them and 7-11 wasn't hiring.
I know a police officer in my district who says that the streets run with gold. Damn if he is going to work for minimum wage. He writes tickets by the boatload, dui's every night, felonies several times a week and is in court 5 days a week. He works hard.
For that some months he earns another 50% or more of his paycheck and has been maxed out in deferred comp for years and has loads in savings and brokerage accounts.
He works for himself, not for bosses. Want to make more money? Get out there and work. You have the power to control your own income, drive around dogging it and you are just leaving cash money on the table.
The choice is yours.
10/04/2012 09:20:00 PM
Yeah.And when Rambo has some shit caper go sideways and he's facing 30 pending AND civil suits you'll be there for him??Maybe you'll toss a 20 to his fundraiser as he's babbling to anyone who'll listen that he got fucked for "doing his job".Tell me that doesn't happen or that you've never seen it,and I say get at least 5 years on before you preach bullshit.
You are what the citizens want and need.
BTW, the ILCS does state, your JOB is to ENFORCE those laws.
10/05/2012 07:39:00 AM
swell.
now, if you'd be so kind, citizen, to post your name, dob, address of residency, plate #'s of any/all vehicles you own, and the vehicle insurance policy #'s of said vehicles, i'd be happy to add you to the system which you are so fond of.
after all, i exist solely to fulfill your every want and need.
"That is where coppers actually have "probable cause" to stop someone"
Your ignorance is on display, learn the job and law kid.
Mike Ryan was the police.......worked in Gangs North mademmany arrests, Recovered many guns etc.....so like him or not he was the real POPO........
Love him or hate him ... yes; Captain MR was the real police and a working copper.
10/04/2012 08:51:00 PM
Mike, thanks for pulling yourself away from the barstool to check in. Nice try, too bad WE remember what a great "working copper" you were before the meritorious promotions started to kick in...
What a prick. Hope you get yours oneday.
"Oh Your a Tuff Boss!! How about signing your Name!"
You'll see his name soon enough...in this format: Smith v. Martin, et al., 819 F.Supp 733 (1992)
Of course he might be included in et al., but you'll know who he is.
"Smith v. Martin, et al., 819 F.Supp 733 (1992)"
Coming up on the 20th anniversary of that suit!
Hope the detective is still doing well!
"BELIEVE me, in 26 years ive dealt with bigger, badder and meaner motherfuckers on this job than you.. that im sure of... I dont get intimidated from your tribal tattoos and your gelled hair or your torn designer tac jeans. bring it asshole ill make your little young ass cry. 33 years of boxing in and out of the ring ill have no problem showing you a thing or two. signed, a crusty old sgt who wont take your little league bullshit.
P.S. Im not the original poster or had anything to do with the original post above but your useless threats and fist shaking about how youll show someone else are a joke. Nothing but cowards who talk the talk but dont walk the walk on this job anymore.. and if you have an issue with my post come to area 2 and ask for 'big Petey'"
Petey, you know those days are LONG over. The days of settling things "like a man" ended with things like women coming on the job (let's not open that can of worms) and "human resources" departments.
Clearly you're not one of the bitch-ass bosses who have no clue. Hell, I'd WELCOME the opportunity to take one of these MF'ers out into the parking lot.
So calm down, big boy. These posts aren't meant for you.
P.S.: Smith v. Martin, et al., 819 F.Supp 733 (1992). Even if worse comes to worse, I'll take the "shit assignment" over a threat to my career/livelihood/family serenity any day.
P.S.S.: It's just a blog. Don't take it personally.
the poor sgt was crying at roll call that someone took a picture of his message. boo hoo.
Was the XO of 019 really a working cop? didn't know him until he got here. It's always ironic when some of the biggest dogs on the watch become bosses and then want you to go out and work your ass off for them.
10/04/2012 02:23:00 PM
Love him or hate him ... yes; Captain MR was the real police and a working copper.
And where did you get this info? from the jagoff himself while you were sitting at the bar. He is the most miserable person I have ever met on this job and yes I know him when he was a PO. Foot guy on Belmont Was a dog then and a jagoff now He is a poison to 019 and nothing will change to he is gone.
Love him or hate him ... yes; Captain MR was the real police and a working copper.
10/04/2012 08:51:00 PM
Mike, thanks for pulling yourself away from the barstool to check in. Nice try, too bad WE remember what a great "working copper" you were before the meritorious promotions started to kick in...
What a prick. Hope you get yours oneday.
You got to be kidding me. laziest policeman I have ever seen in my 25 yrs. The only thing he cares about now is screwing over all of us and drinking with his office snitch girlfriend MH
Come on, it's E Z.
If you stop some mutt give him a choice?
Walking:
Would you like a contact card? An ANOV? Or INTENSIVE CARE!
Driving:
Would you like a contact(traffic)card? P (mail in))ticket? Traffic ticket( mover must appear or mail in or school )?
Or INTENSIVE CARE!
Or
Don't bug anybody!
You want numbers, but throw coppers under the bus after busting their ass for you. Go pound sand!
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