Out of Touch? Whoops!
- Mayor Rahm Emanuel on Wednesday denounced as “wrong-headed” and a danger to Chicago a federal appeals court ruling that tossed out Illinois’ ban on carrying concealed weapons and gave the General Assembly six months to make it legal.
Emanuel said he has spent his entire public life doing battle against the National Rifle Association and he’s not about to stop now, even though federal appeals court judges have put state lawmakers on the clock.
The mayor portrayed the justices as out of touch and urged them to come down from their ivory tower and experience the terror that Chicagoans feel in neighborhoods held hostage by gangs.
This from an asshole who lives surrounded by men with guns. An out-of-touch dilettante who made millions collecting a crooked paycheck for what was essentially a "no-show" job. A "man" so paranoid that he freaked out and removed members of his security staff over a bag of tomatoes left on his front stoop. This asshat is going to tell judges to experience the "terror" Chicagoans feel in their neighborhoods....
....wait a minute. "Terror...in neighborhoods"?
But Crime is Down. Everywhere. We heard McNumberCruncher saying so the other day. And the other day. And the day around that other time.
Which is it Rahm? Crime is Down? Or Daily Terror in the Hood?
You're a hypocrite either way.
....wait a minute. "Terror...in neighborhoods"?
But Crime is Down. Everywhere. We heard McNumberCruncher saying so the other day. And the other day. And the day around that other time.
Which is it Rahm? Crime is Down? Or Daily Terror in the Hood?
You're a hypocrite either way.
Labels: gun issues
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
134 Comments:
RHAMBOOOOOOOOOO Give up your massive security detail tough guy and put more cops out on the street
He should look in the mirror! He is the one in the tower and out of touch!
he needs his constituency to be shrinking in terror from gun violence so he can "save us", problem is, Rahm Un-Emanuel, we see through you. And now, we got our guns back, asshole.
from Chicago citizen
So then being a Life Member of the NRA would be a...what, rule violation? Try it, McCarthy/Rahm.
off topic but phil rogers at nbc is very interested in hearing stories of IAD bs and cases where clout had something to do with it. Does anyone have any info ie: coverups, people getting screwed and railroaded??? etc...
Already an IAD boss out there who came forward and told how much bs is involved yet McDonothing hasnt budged to make changes over there.
Rahmmy and the top cop are sending us mixed messages. We are so confused.
Crime is down yet the ex-mayor demands an entitlement of a taxpayer provided security force, certain aldermen demand entitlements to a personal security force, and the mayor himself demands a personal taxpayer provided security force.
Hey CRIME IS DOWN YOU TOLD US!
At the same time the Top Cop is telling us that the people of Chicago are ENJOYING a historically low crime rate.
Well if that's the case the entitlement reforms that the politicians are talking about should start right here with these personal security status symbols.
We'll call it entitlement reform and we demand that the people wanting to hang onto them share the "we are all in this together' theme that has been promoted by giving up them up.
You really were never entitled to them in the first place.
What are there... about 313 million Americans with about 13 million of them living in Illinois, right?
This arrogant mo-fo suggest that 300 million people in the other 49 States are wrong and he's got it right.
Even as it's not the other 49 States that are living in terror and chaos it's the people in Chicago under Rahm's leadership that live in terror -- and that terror can and is used as a tool to enhance the political power structure and build a larger empire.
If anyone is skilled in the use of fear and terror it's the political apparatus. Fear of guns, fear of the "Fiscal Cliff", fear of what the other political party is going to do to you.
The terror for most people here begins in the Downtown Tower of Bullshit and extends to Washington.
Use the fear to create a crisis, then don't let the crisis go to waste. It's exactly how Hitler worked and anyone who has studied history can see it here.
Go build us a $55 million dollar Maggie Daley park Rahm, that'll fix everything. You say that you are for "the children" ? Well at the end of the year when the homicides are over 500 for the year we challenge you to go back over the stats and tell everyone how many of those homicides are below 25 years of age. Over 50% we'll bet you.
No, we will not look at your distractions. Look at the mess you are creating.
Can someone tell me what would happen if Cfd decided to strike?
"The mayor portrayed the justices as out of touch and urged them to come down from their ivory tower and experience the terror that Chicagoans feel in neighborhoods held hostage by gangs."
Blah, blah, blah.
He said this when Chicago's draconian gun law was overturned.
This guy is either out-of-touch or ridiculously arrogant.
I mean, who else would run for mayor, knowing how much of a hole Daley had dig through his fiscal malfeasance?
It would be political suicide.
Hopefully, it will be.
It is now time for all law abiding citizens to step up and get loud. This clown has to be shut down.
I garon-fuckin-tee you rahm owns firearms.
Please tell me more about the tomatoes.
It would be great once the CCL is finalized if all the gun companies in America had a conference here. The public would be invited, they could learn about handguns and the different models available. The companies could offer specials on certain carry and conceal models. You could have people speak who have used Carry and Conceal in real life scenarios. You can have children ,whose parents are around because of Carry and Conceal, to speak as to how gratefull they are they still have parents.
Obviously Rham, Lisa, Richie, Madigan and Quinn would all be invited.
An armed and educated electorate is very scary to many. If one can protect himself and be able to think indepedrntly there is very little need for big government.
Here's the real issue.
Who is being held accountable for writing these Illinois laws that are unconstitutional?
This political lawmaker incompetence is costing us money!! Money that could be spent on education, schools, healthcare, jobs, city services, etc...Hell maybe even money that could be returned to the taxpayer as rebates or to lower taxes!
But oh, no-no-no.
The aldermen, mayor, governor, state lawmakers have a budget mentality to use it or lose it.
If the lawmakers should stop writing laws that challenge and fail the Constitution test how can they possible justify and increase in their budgets to pay for more lawyers to defend their work?
This money... that is stolen to create these Constitutional challenges that time and time again fail is coming out of all of our so-called entitlements that we have paid into and will never get back.
It comes out of the pensions when they skip payments. It comes out of the 401K's, IRA's, and savings plans as the FOMC and US treasury play games with interest rates that end up devaluing our savings. The state tax increases pay for the lawmakers failed challenges as tax breaks are shifted back and forth between the state and fed to cover up what's going on.
Yes, let's cut the taxpayers entitlements so that we have money to hire more law firms and expand the law departments, transfer the wealth, feed the politicians egos.
The people that wrote these laws should be held accountable.
We elect lawmakers and should expect them to know and understand the rules of engagement. What I mean by that is, that if there is anything that the lawmakers should be versed in it's the Constitution.
The people that are writing these laws and pushing these laws and voting in favor of these laws that fail to pass the Constitution test need to be held accountable.
Private industry would NEVER stand for failed performance like this from their employees. Why should we accept it.
STOP PISSING AWAY OUR TAX DOLLARS!
These are our Democrat leaders. The best part is the Republicans are waving white flags over core issues. So we have 2 options when we vote, Democrats or Democrats-light.
The Illinois State Senate has 59 members while the House has 118.
177 lawmakers in the Illinois General Assembly plus the governor.
Which ones are writing and which ones are voting for these unconstitutional laws? Why does the Governor not read what he signs and say hey guys.. this is not going to hold up. We're going to get lawsuits and lose money here.
They are incompetent unwilling or unable to do their jobs. Do they even care if the laws they are writing will pass the Constitution test or is it -- what the hell it's not my money let's just pass it and see what happens. See if we can get away with it.
Besides, look at all the time and money for court costs and such that will have to be spent to challenge it. HAHAHAH. The jokes on you Chicago...Illinois. You don't like that law? Wait till you see the next one. We do what we want and don't have to answer for it.
Stop putting the people in office based on their good looks and/or who raise the most corporate campaign money! DO they even know what is in the Constitution?
Hey if the liberals can exercise their freedom of speech I can exercise my right to bear arms.....
Not the Police just an American with rights
yes his children sleep soundly at night--- he eats breafast one hundred yards from people who would like to kill him--- you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall--- a thank you once in awhile would suffice....
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@SecondCityCop- As a LEO, are you a supporter of CCW permits? From a LEO perspective, what do you foresee as the biggest challenge to overcome once CCW provisions are created in our state?
I can just imagine the furious phone call Rahm made to BHO.
BHO would be telling him as he lit up a Newport, "Now calm down Rahm my man. Don't worry about the Constitution we're working on that."
Rahm, "But I'm afraid of people with guns."
BHO, "Don't you have enough bodyguards?"
Rahm, "Well yes, but they are Chicago cops and I can't trust Chicago cops."
BHO, "Maybe I should send you some Secret Service, or maybe you could get some Fruit of Islam boys to work for you."
Rahm, "What are we going to do?!?!"
BHO, "Don't worry; it won't be long before I can put Eric Holder and a few others on the Supreme Court."
Rahm, "Wow, that can't happen soon enough."
BHO, "Not only that I've got Hillary working on a treaty with the U.N. to by-pass the Constitution and just make private ownership of firearms illegal—PERIOD! And I’ve been building a Homeland Security army ready to come in and get all those registered gun in civilian hands."
Rahm, "So let it be written, so let it be done."
I hope that goof is a one term Mayor. He really has no f-ing clue
Did it ever occur to people that the reason that all of these crooked politicians hate guns and yet carry guns themselves is because they FEAR the people? The Second Amendment was put in place to protect the people from these types of politicians.
Daley hates guns, and yet when Mell forgot to register his DOZENS of guns, the anti-gun mayor made a ONE TIME grace period so that his little alderman could get them registered and be legal again, only to vote against guns for everyone else. HYPOCRITES!
PLEASE WATCH this clip of Dr. Suzannna Hupp testify about her experience surviving a massacre and the right to defend. I think you will find it enlightening.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1u0Byq5Qis
How close are we to 500? "This is Chicago" should be the new motto when we do... Reference the movie "300" and quote, "This is Sparta".
People can see for themselves who is out of touch and who is doing a terrible job as mayor when they try to go downtown, a formerly safe place, and are confronted by packs of out of control savages.
Unfortunately, those packs of out of control savages have been herded together by community organizers of the communist persuasion and vote in greater numbers than the decent, hard working Americans that are left in this city. The end is already here.
Heard Rahm on the news last night along with Quinn denouncing the decision.
Someone on both of their staffs better man up and tell them they took an oath to uphold the US Constitution when they took office. That includes the Second Amendment.
Someone better get both a copy so they can read through it. Did they ever take the time to read through it?
Out-of-touch? This is the ONLY state that does not support the US Constitution.
Keep voting for idiots that say there is no crime - but surround themselves with literally a Million Dollar-a-year security team while I have to drive through Chicago hoping I don't get hassled at some stoplight.
Next case.
Just like that Trotter douche caught at ORD with a gun in his bag. He says he's against guns and an anti gun advocate, but the hypocrite carries a gun himself for his "security job."
off topic but phil rogers at nbc is very interested in hearing stories of IAD bs and cases where clout had something to do with it. Does anyone have any info ie: coverups, people getting screwed and railroaded??? etc...
Already an IAD boss out there who came forward and told how much bs is involved yet McDonothing hasnt budged to make changes over there.
12/13/2012 12:37:00 AM
Regardless the topic, f*** Phil Rogers and f*** all members of the media. They are not your friends. Go away, troll.
Please tell me more about the tomatoes.
12/13/2012 12:57:00 AM
It was written up here back in the summer. Try Googling "rahm" and "tomatoes." See what you find.
Anonymous said...
@SecondCityCop- As a LEO, are you a supporter of CCW permits? From a LEO perspective, what do you foresee as the biggest challenge to overcome once CCW provisions are created in our state?
12/13/2012 02:52:00 AM
Media troll! Go away!
the twerp mayor needs to climb down from his tree house and experience life in Chicago the way the citizens do. They cannot fight back ! The gangs/bad guys have always/and will always have guns in spite of the draconian laws that the bad guys/gangs pay no attention to.
The other 49 States have experienced no problems with CCW. Wake up asshole (mayor twerp) !!!
one thing i think we like to know is
his explanation of "strange values"
"Cellphones will now be banned in court, but guns? Open up the floodgates, let them in," he said.
well i can't really ever remembering
guns in the courthouse except for bailiffs and police
i find it to be of strange values
when he wants 55 million for a park
and there more worthy social ideals to spend it on
just think of all the money the city has wasted fighting these cases Your $ Tiny Dancer has used this as a personal vendetta against the NRA
he seems to forget the criminals don't have FOID cards in the first place the guns they have are most likely stolen.and as you , the cop have seen day in day out they really gives a "rat's ass about a gun ban
so, why not level the playing field
As long as Rahm & Richie have armed bodyguard man servants, as long as the Aldermen can carry guns, as long as Donnie Trotter can carry a gun, as long as the gangs can carry gunsa, we are all safe and will still continue to vote for all these wonderful politicians. We don't need guns we are protected, ask Mike Madigan.
Hizzoner also said not a single police chief in the entire nation supports "more guns on the streets." Did he miss the Illinois Chiefs of Police Assn. what endorced liscensed carry?
Rahm is a prick. I will give you that, but when you say he's surrounded by men with guns, c'mon. Those men n are police officers not some yokel who runs out, buys a handgun, and decides to carry it.
If any of you actually believe concealed carry is going to make policing easier, you're in fucking dreamland.
9.5 either doesn't understand Posner's decision or he is deliberately reading it incorrectly. What a tool.
Anonymous said...
It would be great once the CCL is finalized if all the gun companies in America had a conference here. The public would be invited, they could learn about handguns and the different models available. The companies could offer specials on certain carry and conceal models. You could have people speak who have used Carry and Conceal in real life scenarios. You can have children ,whose parents are around because of Carry and Conceal, to speak as to how gratefull they are they still have parents.
Obviously Rham, Lisa, Richie, Madigan and Quinn would all be invited.
Please come to the ISRA Open House in June 2013, We have the latest guns from manufacturers there. Check out isra.org
"@SecondCityCop- As a LEO, are you a supporter of CCW permits? From a LEO perspective, what do you foresee as the biggest challenge to overcome once CCW provisions are created in our state?"
Huh?
The 2nd amendment is there for a reason Rahm!!
Respect it or get out of this country!!
Because of this carry and conceal law, I sent the NRA another 30 bucks as a charitable, tax deduction Christmas gift! By the way, fuck you Rahm, Quinn and Madigan! . Da Pelon
I love the insinuation that 49 out of 50 states are "out of touch."
If you take away his job title, he has short man syndrome. Arrogant, angry, iinsecure. I am surprised he hasn't passed a law forbidding tomatos in chgo city limits.
anyone been to cabelas lately , you have to take a number at the gun counter.on a week night!
In one breath Tiny D preaches how safe the city is and in the other how much we need a gun ban. What will his spin be today???
Daley, Rahm, Jackson and all of these anti-gun phonies live surrounded by flunky armed cops who double as servants. Consider that even one of Daley's guards has been dragged into his nephew's case because he occasionally drove the nephew around. Where are the armed guards for my family? Out of touch; Consider that Daley and Rahm don't even know what it is to pull up to a gas station and pay, since the public has been paying to haul their asses around for decades in Daley's case. Apparently citizens are smart enough to vote Democrat, but not smart enough to defend themselves.
Fucking guy didn't even live in Chicago when he ran for mayor!
Rahm spent his life fighting the NRA?
Why would you want to fight good law-abiding Americans when the ghetto rats are the ones destroying everything?
I get it, the ghetto rats vote Democratic.
First of all the terror doesnt come from good healthy citizens that are willing to follow all the rules of carry and concealing a firearm in order to protect themselves and their families. The terror comes from gang bangers drug dealers and repeated convicted felons that dont give a shit of what a law is and want to terrorize the community. We can count hundreds of illegal guns being carried around by these assholes and by teens who have no reason to carry a weapon in the first place.
I work in 009 on days. Back in 1990 I was arrested right here in 009 by the tact team (new crew now of course). I was walking home from my cousin's house at 2 a.m. one night and three assholes tried to jump me. Thank God I was packing my .38 snub nose. I let a round go into an adjacent phone poll and they all ran off. I told my cousin about what happened and he told me that Chicago has a gun law. I laughed and said he had to be mistaken. I said it's unconstitutional that we have a right to bear arms. Well much to my surprise I got arrested the next day as they saw where I left and the tact team interviewed him and he gave me away. I asked my attorney how could this be? Well the assholes got arrested the day before the court date (go figure) and the case got tossed then I got my record expunged 3 years later. I became cop a few years afterwards and have been in disbelief over this law ever since. I tell all my non police friends fuck that law and pack a gun and tell them what a joke Cook County is and to at least have one gun at home. Most have taken my advice. (I am sure the asshats at IAD are pulling rosters trying to figure out the author of this. Don't bother I have one foot out the door and you can go F@#$! yourselves on the 5th floor) To all readers of this: Buy your guns. Be judged by 12 and not carried by 6.
Rham stood at the window of his office and yelled " Let them eat cake"
What happens if the State legislature does not pass a law???
Now the gangbangers can have legal easy access to guns by having their girlfriend get a license.
Anonymous said...
I garon-fuckin-tee you rahm owns firearms.
12/13/2012 12:54:00 AM
All tyrants and evil doers do.
I'm no Rahm fan. Having said that, I don't have a problem with him 'removing' people assigned to his security detail after a bag of vegetables were left on his door stoop. Those mopes sitting in front and in back of the Mayor's home are there to protect him and his family. A bag of ANYTHING should never have been left on his doorstoop unnoticed and undocumented by any officer assigned over at the Mayor's residence that day, period. Call it what it was; somebody dropped the ball, and heads rolled. Would it have been any more acceptable if those guys were guarding one of our fellow policemen's homes, protecting him/her and their family from harm? I rest my case.
why don't 5'3" Rhambo walk around the Mag Mile at WITHOUT his bodyguards for a night? see how long til he wants CC!
Anonymous said...
off topic but phil rogers at nbc is very interested in hearing stories of IAD bs and cases where clout had something to do with it. Does anyone have any info ie: coverups, people getting screwed and railroaded??? etc...
Already an IAD boss out there who came forward and told how much bs is involved yet McDonothing hasnt budged to make changes over there.
12/13/2012 12:37:00 AM
F OFF Media troll
Anonymous said...
I garon-fuckin-tee you rahm owns firearms.
12/13/2012 12:54:00 AM
Some one please H.I. his mansion...
If Chicago is Safe ,Then you only need one person on your Security Detail.
So Rahm is out of touch and obviously LaShawn Ford must be right there with him. Ford is now saying he'll "hold his nose and vote for CCW" if it includes an AWB.
Clearly these crooks don't understand that their collective backs are against the wall. Want to bring ridiculous and restrictive carry bills forward? No problem, we'll just reject them (and we have enough votes to block them) and let the 180 days run out. Then they can tell their constituents that they are responsible for unrestricted Constitutional Carry.
Friday, August 10, 2012
Rahm's Tomatoes
Oh the stories you hear that the media would never report:
It seems that recently Rahm came home and found a brown paper bag sitting on his front porch and demanded to know how it got there and what it was from his security detail. After all, there are police guarding his house front and rear 24/7.
http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/2012/08/rahms-tomatoes.html
Anonymous said...
" It would be great once the CCL is finalized if all the gun companies in America had a conference here. "
Go idea! And they could land their company aircraft at Meigs Field to have their conference at McCormack Place.
Oops.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
@SecondCityCop- As a LEO, are you a supporter of CCW permits?"
September 12, 2012
The vast majority of working law enforcement officers in the United States support the Second Amendment right to bear arms and plan to vote for presumptive Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney this fall. That's the findings of a survey conducted by POLICE Magazine this summer.
A total of 19,000 subscribers to the PoliceMag.com e-newsletter On-Target were given the opportunity to participate in a survey covering gun control, politics, and police operations. Of that base number, 2,387 responded, a total response of 12.6%. Of the respondents, 74% were active sworn law enforcement, 15% were retired sworn law enforcement, and 11% were not law enforcement officers.
Gun Control
Respondents showed little or no support for increased government restrictions on gun ownership. Only 10% of respondents said they believe stricter laws on handgun ownership would increase or enhance public safety.
http://www.policemag.com/
And regardless of what some doofuses in the mainstream media tout, the NRA and legitimate concealed carry permit holders are NOT responsible for the violence in the 'hood - CRIMINALS are responsible.
What part of "the right of the people to keep, and bear arms shall not be infringed" is so hard to understand for these "libtards"????
I will be happy to explain it all very slowly to them
This little rodent is the absolute face of evil.
Anonymous said...
off topic but phil rogers at nbc is very interested in hearing stories of IAD bs and cases where clout had something to do with it. Does anyone have any info ie: coverups, people getting screwed and railroaded??? etc...
Already an IAD boss out there who came forward and told how much bs is involved yet McDonothing hasnt budged to make changes over there.
12/13/2012 12:37:00 AM
The media is not your friend.
AMEN
They were sour tomatoes just like him!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Please tell me more about the tomatoes.
12/13/2012 12:57:00 AM
Only a troll would not be informed
Anonymous said...
I garon-fuckin-tee you rahm owns firearms.
12/13/2012 12:54:00 AM
Yes, he does; his security detail.
This asshat would tell Stephen Hawking that his theories on black holes and the universe are incorrect. Biggest hypocrite in the universe. This will put legal guns on street, instead of the illegal ones bangers use to kill other gangbangers at gangsta funerals. Fuck off TinyDancer,legally owned and registered guns are coming and criminals will have to be worrying because good people will have a fighting chance now.
Rahm says "We must keep guns out of the hands of the ignorant proletariat masses, only members of the communist party are allowed firearms"
Thanks for continuing to support civilian right to gun ownership and carry, SCC! but you did forget to mention one other superb advocacy group in the following post:
"Over on the right-hand side, we have a number of links for Right Thinking People.
The top three links are The NRA, The Illinois State Rifle Association and the Second Amendment Foundation."
IllinoisCarry.com is our grassroots network for getting information out to the general public, encouraging participation and membership to the other three GREAT organizations you've already linked and listed.
please visit us today, get involved!
along with the NRA, ISRA, SAF, GOA, we're moving gun rights forward in this state.
but we need YOUR help!
My thoughts exactly, SCC. Rahm and Daley want guns to be illegal in this city, yet they're surrounded 24/7 by men with guns. And by the way, how are those gun laws working out? Because every time I log onto the news there's always a count of how many people were shot overnight.
Yet I go walk my dog and if I get surrounded by a bunch of gangbangers or a person looking for trouble, I'm on my own??
Fuck you, Rahm. Fuck you.
All other 49 states have concealed carry, and we have the highest murder rate due to illegally obtained guns in the hands of convicted felons!! 9.5 and Father Pfaker need to get their heads out of their asses. The only people that will be negatively impacted by concealed carry are scumbag criminal,s that might get ventilated if they attack law abiding citizens. Crime will go down, put that in your McCompstat and smoke it!
In Response to the 7th Circuit's decision striking down Illinois' ban on the carrying concealed weapons by law-abiding citizens he stated:
“This ruling runs counter to not only common sense but what every police chief in the country thinks, which is we should not allow more guns on the street.
HB148 is one of several bills currently pending in the Illinois Legislature to allow honest citizens the Right To Carry after showing proof of proper training and undergoing a background check. HB148 has been formally endorsed by:
The Illinois Association of Chiefs Of Police
The Illinois Sheriff's Association.
The Chicago Police Department Sergeant's Association
The Chicago Police Department Lieutenants Association
I think the Mayor needs to do his homework. I also thinks that the media also needs to do a bare minimum of research to provide balance before printing such wrongheaded statements.
what to stop crime? 2 words. charles bronson
Most all of the politicians in Cook Cty and Chicago are out of touch with reality re the CCW issue. Guns save lives. 49 states are wrong?? Think not. CCW's are coming to IL which still includes Chicago and that will cut down on violence. Good folks do not pull guns unless their life is in immediate danger. Gang bangers be advised that the next time you attack an innocent civilian there might be a surprise awaiting you!!
Michael S....
shoot an innocent civilian you might get shot back!!
Michael T. Sweig
Can someone tell me what would happen if Cfd decided to strike?
Same thing as 1980
OK !! It is obvious that the democratic political class does not want firearms in the publics hands, period, let alone any concealed carry laws. So, OK! Then no armed bodyguards for anyone, alderman will not be allowed to carry concealed handguns because they claim they are " peace keepers", and no elected offcials can work as " security guards" and send Trotter to prison for one year which is what he demanded in the legislator. What is good for the public is good for the political class.
"There are no good guns. There are no bad guns. Any gun in the hands of a bad man is a bad thing. Any gun in the hands of a decent person is no threat to anybody - except bad people."
Charleton Heston
Rahm believes if everyone is carrying guns that it's going to be the wild west in Chicago. What he doesn't realize is the shitheads already have guns and they're going to use them regardless of a Conceal Carry Law.
His refusal to hire more police is good reason for Conceal Carry so that the decent people of this city can protect themselves against the bad people.
I guarantee you that after a few good people put down some bad ones the shitheads are going to think twice about robbing someone. Look at Texas. You don't see them on national news every other week because there's so many homicides.
Forty-nine other states can't be wrong.
Hey Rahm,why don't you just send a dead fish to the Judge Posner, I dare you, you bully. LOL. Now go bite a dick you little nazi.
For an update on concealed carry outside the home, check THEE RANT. Don't be shocked if Springfield plagiarizes New York City's "proper cause" concealed carry law as a model for their 180-day legislation deadline per Tuesday's 7th Circuit ruling.
Also note that 7th Circuit Judge Ann C. Williams cited the draconian New York City law (pp. 46-47) in her lone dissent in the 2 to 1 decision.
Also, pay particular attention to the comments of NYPD ranter "ryanpax".
Click on THEE RANT
Anonymous said...
Please tell me more about the tomatoes.
12/13/2012 12:57:00 AM
The whole thing is on SCC, go back to the summer and search, it was a topic on the front page.
@SecondCityCop- As a LEO, are you a supporter of CCW permits? From a LEO perspective, what do you foresee as the biggest challenge to overcome once CCW provisions are created in our state?
12/13/2012 02:52:00 AM
the ccw provisions that are created in our state.
Reference the movie "300" and quote, "This is Sparta".
12/13/2012 03:56:00 AM
you misspelled 'Farta'.
In 015 two juveniles beat to death a 40 yr old man WITH A SPEAKER. Yes. With a speaker. CC would have stopped that, Rahm. That man is dead because of Rahm and the Democrat Machine.
this whole regime of Rham and Co. seems schizophrenic.
Hello Pot, this is Rham, you are black
Rahm has the keystone cops lol guarding him and chauffeuring his entire famy everywhere 24/7 protection on his home multi millions in cash And he just wants tax paying citizens to continue to be victims. Llke the entire Democratic Party want all dependent on Barry Obama sorry rahm we are tired of being victims! Like in h Wild West you and you evil cabals have allowed lawlessness to rein its our time to choose not to be a victim! By the way stocks I weapons are rising the companies cannot make enough guns to keep up with orders!
"This from an asshole who lives surrounded by men with guns. An out-of-touch dilettante who made millions collecting a crooked paycheck for what was essentially a "no-show" job." -- SCC
Dual-citizenship rootless cosmopolitan who can take his millions and abandon his silly "GOLAN MOVERS" boxes and jet away somewhere -- anywhere -- in an eyeblink, with a guaranteed landing in some other Inner Party member's spare luxury high-security condo "while the family looks for a place."
"I garon-fuckin-tee you rahm owns firearms."
12/13/2012 12:54:00 AM
Given the family background and the context and connections, I can't imagine that he wouldn't.
Considering his "schedule" and lifestyle and so forth, I would read it as nothing ugly -- some engraved "Executive Grade" presentation .32 in a little walnut box, that kind of thing -- but that's just me. If he's covering for some kind of inadequacy, there could be anything in there. Snarling at self in mirror w/knife between teeth and ammo belts criss-crossed, etc.
How many anti-gunners have been found to be strapped, over the years? It's a whole laundry list.
"Peace activist" Jane Fonda in an NVA helmet, squinting AT MY COUSIN AND YOUR DAD through the sights of that quad 12.7 DshK antiaircraft mount...
I knew Rahm and Lisa "Egghead" Madigan would be burning up the wires about this. Just days ago, State Sen. Toi Hutchinson -- our local lipstick display -- was suddenly going on about how "Chicago and Cook County need to be strong and tough" on gun laws (because of so many of her demonstrably crazy and violent constituents) -- but that "other parts of the state might be OK with different laws."
Toi visibly doesn't have the brains to do anything but parrot her users. This is just that old "cities of one million and over" split they've been working for years, to try to keep Chicago a gunless-except-for-criminals fiefdom.
Boy, everybody grabbing for that JJJr seat -- "I got gold here! Gold!" It's a scene right out of Reconstruction. Unseemly, to say the least.
I'm just "out of touch." I was in the Woolworth's right downtown when it sold guns...Marshall Field's (huge stuffed grizzly bear, gunsmith on the premises), the old Abercrombie and Fitch when it was a gentlemen's store...
Then came 1964 and sequelae -- "the things that came subsequently."
"BHO, "Maybe I should send you some Secret Service, or maybe you could get some Fruit of Islam boys to work for you."
Rahm, "What are we going to do?!?!"
12/13/2012 03:44:00 AM
Call Dr. Gary Slutkin and ask for "interrupters!" The City of Chicago gave a million dollars to CeaseFire -- aren't we going to get anything in return?
"BHO, "Not only that I've got Hillary working on a treaty with the U.N. to by-pass the Constitution and just make private ownership of firearms illegal—PERIOD!"
No, no. All the UN documents on "The Global Small Arms Problem" -- with the hitherto-civilized West insultingly being considered on a par with Somalia and Yemen -- are merely products of "single-source conspiracy theory." So is that sculpture right in front of the UN bullding in New York -- the revolver with its barrel tied into a knot. It's not really there.
"Rahm, "So let it be written, so let it be done."
Oy!
Richie Da Old Mayo used to carry a little snub with him when he was States Attorney!! He was afraid he maybe stuck up or ambushed..
"[Rahm} eats breafast one hundred yards from people who would like to kill him..."
12/13/2012 02:10:00 AM
...or at least 100 yards from the people who mow his lawn. With the elimination of the middle class and the advent of the "Sanctuary City," there are now buildings full of often illegal-alien foreign nationals literally across the alley from governors and congressmen.
"[They are] the "lifeblood" and the "economic engine" of the city of Chicago," says Emanuel. I guess the rest of us can take a hike, huh?
"you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall--- a thank you once in awhile would suffice..."
He's ripping down the wall as loudly and publicly as he can -- on your dime. "Sanctuary City" to "Welcome City" to the "New Americans Initiative"
http://www.cityofchicago.org/city/en/depts/mayor/press_room/press_releases/2012/december_2012/mayor_emanuel_unveilsfirst-everchicagonewamericansplan.html
All he will say about the cost is that "it will come from the other side of the ledger."
I don't know what that means.
Oh --
http://www.examiner.com/article/city-of-chicago-will-host-the-u-s-hispanic-chamber-of-commerce-2013-convention
"You can have children...whose parents are around because of Carry and Conceal...speak as to how grateful they are they still have parents."
"Obviously Rahm, Lisa, Richie, Madigan and Quinn would all be invited."
12/13/2012 01:00:00 AM
Obviously there'd be no reply, and obviously none of them gives a finger-flick about you or me or anybody's lousy children.
...except their own children, who are guarded by the police...
You can guarantee that the idiots that hold office in this state are going to try their best to put as many restrictions and hoops to jump through on this new law...
Call ALL your elected officials and demand that they pass a SHALL ISSUE carry bill....
They will try to copy the may issue style laws of NYC, Jersey, California and Hawaii where you have to justify your desire to protect yourself...
Make the call today and EVERY DAY until this law is passed....
The key words are SHALL ISSUE....
"Stop putting the people in office based on their good looks and/or who raise the most corporate campaign money!"
12/13/2012 01:41:00 AM
Don't worry -- no one in their right mind envisions "Occupy" as an alternative, either. Their connections and money flow are at least equally suspicious.
One sees them -- on an almost daily basis, it seems, and at great length -- on RT TV from Moscow, and nowhere else.
Believe me, they don't see themselves as wobbling down a mud track on a wooden bicycle to get to the People's Biodegradable Assembly.
Funny. www.soros.org now redirects to --
http://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/
It's all in a name, right?
An Armed society is a polite society.
I'm no Rahm fan. Having said that, I don't have a problem with him 'removing' people assigned to his security detail after a bag of vegetables were left on his door stoop. Those mopes sitting in front and in back of the Mayor's home are there to protect him and his family. A bag of ANYTHING should never have been left on his doorstoop unnoticed and undocumented by any officer assigned over at the Mayor's residence that day, period. Call it what it was; somebody dropped the ball, and heads rolled. Would it have been any more acceptable if those guys were guarding one of our fellow policemen's homes, protecting him/her and their family from harm? I rest my case.
Wow. Someone want to clue this idiot in? The gardener, who had access to the entire yard and porch left the tomatoes there because Mrs. Rahm wasn't home. It wasn't anyone who wasn't authorized.
Evidently, resting on your "case" has restricted oxygen to your brain, which usually happens when your head is up your ass.
ANON. said:
Rahm is a prick. I will give you that, but when you say he's surrounded by men with guns, c'mon. Those men n are police officers not some yokel who runs out, buys a handgun, and decides to carry it.
If any of you actually believe concealed carry is going to make policing easier, you're in fucking dreamland.
12/13/2012 06:36:00 AM
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PULLLLEEEAASSEEE-
I have seen some CPD at the gunrange and my grandmother can outshoot them - and she is dead.
Some of YOU should not be allowed to carry a gun. Maybe just a police whistle like Will Ferrell in The Other Guys.
Do not underestimate Mr. Yokel who may have far more experience and training (from being prior military) than you will ever have.
Policing will become easier because all the thugs will think twice before jumping on someone who just might pull a 9mm or .38 on them.
Look at all the women taking handgun courses at GAT-guns. Mrs. Yokel is out there getting her training as well.
Stop doubting the average citizen (who goes to training) when some on your own force do not have the marksmanship skills that you all should have.
You will not believe this. Check out the outrageous SIXTEEN (16) pages of forms a resident of New York City must submit for concealed carry:
Prepare to scroll down after clicking HERE.
Anonymous said... off topic but phil rogers at nbc is very interested in hearing stories of IAD bs and cases where clout had something to do with it. Does anyone have any info ie: coverups, people getting screwed and railroaded??? etc... Already an IAD boss out there who came forward and told how much bs is involved yet McDonothing hasnt budged to make changes over there.
U
12/13/2012 12:37:00 AM
Fuck Phil rogers. During the protests in May Rogers was in the crowd of protestors and gave out the name and star # of an officer he felt was "to aggressive" toward him. How many times does this need to be said, THE MEDIA IS NOT OUR FRIEND, DO NOT HELP THEM!!!!!
Oh look outside of Quinn's fundraiser. It's AFSCME Council 31
They need to start being realistic about this and ask the average citizen how many people do you know that have been murdered by a firearm and is it at all possible that this person would still be alive today if they would have had a gun to defend themselves, do you believe that people should have the right to defend themselves against criminals? No they dont they want us to be dependent on them, unarmed and powerless just to keep them with a job.
Policing will become easier because all the thugs will think twice before jumping on someone who just might pull a 9mm or .38 on them.
12/13/2012 04:36:00 PM
policing will become easier because there will be many, many, many properly perforated for expedient drainage thugs waiting to be bagged, tagged and disposed of.
i've wished upon a star, asked the Great and Powerful Wizard of Oz for a favor and tapped the heels of my ruby slippers three times.
soon, there will truly be no place like home.
Chalkie
This woman could have been shaved by CC
http://www.theledger.com/article/20121211/NEWS/121219873?p=1&tc=pg
Insane man chases down and stabs mental health worker
what to stop crime? 2 words. charles bronson
12/13/2012 11:06:00 AM
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You're off by a mile. Two more words:
Chuck Norris
Anonymous said...
Can someone tell me what would happen if Cfd decided to strike?
12/13/2012 12:43:00 AM
Former Mayor Jane Byrne brought in replacement workers when the CFD went on strike in the early 80's. Many of them were retained, causing a rift in the firehouses.
Anonymous said...
Please tell me more about the tomatoes.
12/13/2012 12:57:00 AM
Go in the archives and look for the story on August 10, 2012. Google Rahm and tomatoes to get to the link directly.
I'm going to enjoy getting my FOID card and new firearm for my birthday.
Any rooster breaking into my place will be turned into a hen in short order.
Stay away from the media
Let Emanuel defy the appellate judges.
Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined
The mayor portrayed the justices as out of touch and urged them to come down from their ivory tower and experience the terror that Chicagoans feel in neighborhoods held hostage by gangs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.>>>>>>>>>>....>.
he should do the same and see what we go through for one or 2 tours so he could see the shit we go through , and i say start in englewood... what an asshat!!!
practice what you preach PUSSY !! out of touch? you got that right, you are way out of touch. remember NATO jagbag
no the media is not our friend but since they are interested in the treachery that has been allowed to occur by the IAD for years now, why not tell them some info so they can continue snooping. Fuck IAD and IPRA.
Anonymous said...
lol...
12/13/2012 05:19:00 PM
He looks like Greg from "The Brady Bunch"
I'd like to see his tiny, nine fingered ass ride the Red alone from Howard to 95th w an iPhone out and then decide if CC wasa good idea. Have you ever seen him up close? He looks like a little kid.
Worthless, money grubbing, shallow eyed dirty as fuck punk.
Now here's the question, how do we get congress to pass a bill that will not allow for home rule? This way Cook County and Chicago will HAVE to abide by the state law for once. This home rule crap is getting out of hand. Chicago is turning into its own state.
Anonymous said...
Can someone tell me what would happen if Cfd decided to strike?
12/13/2012 12:43:00 AM
Former Mayor Jane Byrne brought in replacement workers when the CFD went on strike in the early 80's. Many of them were retained, causing a rift in the firehouses.
12/13/2012 06:48:00 PM
Per City ordinance and state law and contract, the strikers would be fired and Local 2 would be de-certified and the entire contract with the firefighters would be null and void.
"and gave the General Assembly six months to make it legal."
It already is,has been for over 200 years.Its called the Second Amendment.Illinois infringes on your right to self preservation.Wonder why the murder and crime rate is so high here.
Out of touch?? That's the pot calling the kettle black!
Rahm is so out of touch with the middle class, especially the rank n file city workers, it's ridiculous.
All he knows how to do to us is hammer away at our benefits.
Mark Brown cited in his Sun-times article of 12-12-12 that since 2007, there have been 499 deaths nationwide at the hands of people with concealed carry permits.
He did not make clear if everyone of the deaths cited was a result of a non-justifiable shooting.
It is a very important distinction and he should have made it clear. But, given the agenda, it's obvious why he did not.
Let's assume each shooting was not justifiable.
That translates in to an annual average of 100 deaths by persons with a concealed carry permit -- nationwide --over the last five years.
The last couple of decades, Illinois has had the most restrictive gun & spray paint possession laws in the country.
For the most part, the only people that have guns (aside from law enforcement) and spray paint, are gang bangers and the criminal element who don't follow laws, period.
Good citizens who insist on exercising there constitutional right under the second amendment in spite of the wrong headed liberals who ignore the constitution and pick and choose laws they will enforce (sanctuary city) are made law breakers in this parallel universe known as Beruit on The Midway or Chicago.
This one city, Chicago, is the murder Capitol of the USA with over -- five -- times the deaths in -- one -- year that Mr. Brown cited -- nationally -- over five years!
The reason for such a situation in Chicago isn't for EASY access to guns.
It's because the criminal element chronically ignores the laws of society and preys on others. And, in Illinois, the criminal element is enabled by virtue repeated early prison release.
Derrick King and light sentencing is just one example of the State, understaffed, underfunded & mismanaged CPD being unable to protect citizens outside there homes.
Rhamulans think a local, national or worldwide ban is the answer.
The U.S. tried something like that and Al Capone came to power.
If there was worldwide ban on guns, criminals would still get them.
Remember the UN ban on Saddam Hussien's Iraq being sold weapons and he got them anyway from Russia and France, for oil?
There is always a seller and as Howard Hughes apparently once said, every man has his price.
The concern that with concealed carry shoot-outs would occur in lines at at Chick-Fil-a is such brainwashing.
If that were true, we'd see it in the States with concealed carry and CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, the Times, the Tribune and the rest of the sippy-cup media would be reporting it 24/7.
When seconds matter and the police are tens of minutes away or sometimes longer, Rahm, Mark Brown, Bob Costas and those on the Sun-Times editorial board may want to fight for their lives on their knees while being attacked by an armed predator, but the law protects the rest of us from having to do so.
We have a constitutional right to bear arms without agenda driven restrictions.
Nothing is going to stop the nut-job segment of society from fullfilling nut-job killing fantasys except incarceration, the State and State agencies doing there job at the highest level of competence and citizens exercising there constitutional 2nd amendment right when the latter doesn't cut it.
So, what is the agenda of people like Rahm and such a fanatical gun control stance in light of the facts?
I've thought of it a lot and I believe it is a matter of dependency and submission.
I believe the Rahm agenda is to pussify Americans, make them dependent & subservient to the state. 180 degrees opposite from the model our founding fathers built.
That NYC CC gun application makes a good templete for an application for citizenship, drivers license or being a Mayor, Alderman, Congressman, Chief of Staff of any politician or POTUS.
-not a cop
Anonymous said...
Now the gangbangers can have legal easy access to guns by having their girlfriend get a license.
12/13/2012 08:33:00 AM
Don't get this comment ? Gangbanger's girlfriends are scum themselves with rap sheets and no means. Many can't even read much less fill out the forms required!
The Teacher
"I'm going to enjoy getting my FOID card and new firearm for my birthday."
12/13/2012 06:57:00 PM
You'll get over it.
You have taken on a great weight, a huge responsibility. Enter into this with the attitude that no mistakes are allowed.
* Off target, off trigger. Finger outside trigger guard unless firing.
* Watch your muzzle.
* Watch your background.
* Know condition of weapon. Be consistent.
Read and study --
* The manual for the weapon. Again. And again.
* In The Gravest Extreme, by Massad Ayoob.
"Any rooster breaking into my place will be turned into a hen in short order."
...and don't go around talking like that.
Best wishes. Really.
what to stop crime? 2 words. charles bronson
12/13/2012 11:06:00 AM
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You're off by a mile. Two more words:
Chuck Norris
Chuck Norris doesn't stop crime.
Crime stops when it sees Chuck Norris.
"If any of you actually believe concealed carry is going to make policing easier, you're in fucking dreamland."
It won't make it any harder. Prior to coming on CPD, I worked in a state where concealed carry has been allowed for years.
I never had any difficulty with anyone who lawfully carried a gun.
Don't kid yourself-just because it's legal doesn't mean everyone will run out & buy one.
rb
Anonymous said...
I'm going to enjoy getting my FOID card and new firearm for my birthday.
Any rooster breaking into my place will be turned into a hen in short order.
To this poster...you damn well better know when and if you are allowed to use deadly force . If you do not have the knowledge of what constitutes a deadly force situation you will join bubba and enjoy a warm cell . There is no room for error as posted by someone else...and there is no place for cowboys either. Be very careful and wise with this responsibility . This is a very good read.
http://www.useofforce.us/2lethal/
Anonymous said...
Mark Brown cited in his Sun-times article of 12-12-12 that since 2007, there have been 499 deaths nationwide at the hands of people with concealed carry permits.
He did not make clear if everyone of the deaths cited was a result of a non-justifiable shooting
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That so-called study had been proven to be just plain wrong. Some of the deaths were by permit holders who used knives or their cars. SOme that were counted were in states like Vermont or Alaska where no permits are required. The list of wrongly counted deaths is long.
"Don't kid yourself-just because it's legal doesn't mean everyone will run out & buy [a gun].
rb
12/14/2012 08:48:00 PM
That is true. It just doesn't register with some people at all. Don't bother with 'em, you'll just get a blank look.
The reality-disengaged and the mechanically-disinclined select themselves out in this way. That's OK with me, I guess.
Crime stops when it sees Chuck Norris.
12/14/2012 08:42:00 PM
Nope even Chuck pales in awe at the Honey Badger, cause Honey Badger don't give a shit.
The anti gunners will keep reciting horror stories and the awful things that will happen on the streets of Chicago if citizens can have concealed carry. But, as the federal appealate court has so stated based on briefs filed by both sides in this issue, no such evidence exits in any state that has had concealed carry. And, the so-called study that the sun-times quoted in which hundreds have been killed by people carrying concealed falls into this catagory, as just no true.
Acevedo is the democratic front man for banning guns in the state. But, he is a police officer ( at least in title if you know him). and he carries a gun. The vast majority of citzens will never apply for concealed carry.
"Be very careful and wise with [the responsibility of a newly acquired firearm]."
12/14/2012 09:58:00 PM
From long experience -- DON'T SHOW YOUR NEW TOY AROUND.
Otherwise, your neighbor's nephew's kid's friend's no-good friend WILL be rooting around the dresser drawers in the master bedroom during the graduation party.
Happens in the nicest households.
Extreme example of the "telegraph" --
"In Cold Blood," Kansas 1957, the Clutter family wiped out root, stem and branch in an armed home invasion triggered by a jailhouse rumor -- spread by a disgruntled one-time hired hand -- of a "safe filled with cash" that simply didn't exist.
Sshh.
Rham =TRASH
Rahm actually stood at his window and yelled "Let them eat tomatoes".
Attack of the Killer Tomatoes must have had a lasting effect on him.
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