Gun Tax Today
- Cook County’s special gun tax, aimed at curbing taxpayer expenses tied to gun violence, kicks in Monday despite a lawsuit by firearms stores and owners to shut it down.
Championed by County Board President Toni Preckwinkle and approved by county commissioners as part of the larger 2013 county budget, the new $25 tax on each gun sale in suburban Cook County goes into effect as a larger national debate on gun control takes center stage.
In proposing the tax, Preckwinkle said she was looking for a way to defray the costs of gun violence on county taxpayers — whether it’s in the public health system where the injured are treated or the local criminal justice system.
All this does is shift the alleged expense to most law abiding gun owners (or future gun owners) rather than address the problem. This is a punitive tax against gun owners and is admitted that it won't even cover the hospital expenses of people who managed to get shot - almost 99% of whom are dope dealing assholes who probably had it coming:
- Expected to bring in just $600,000 in revenues this year, the tax is more symbolic when you consider the county is a $3 billion operation that includes the public hospitals and health clinics as well as the jail and local criminal justice system.
This law is already the subject of at least one lawsuit:
- Last month, a group of Chicago area firearms dealers and owners — including the well-known Chuck’s Gun Shop in Riverdale — sued over the tax, saying it violates their constitutional rights. They asked a judge for an injunction, but Cook County court records show no action has been taken in the case.
In their lawsuit, the gun owners and firearms dealers argue: “Proponents of the tax have admitted that its purpose is to curb the number of firearms in circulation. The Tax thus is intended to deter individuals from exercising their fundamental right to keep and bear arms guaranteed by the Second and the Fourteenth Amendments to the United States Constitution and . . . the Illinois Constitution,” the lawsuit states.
Local moron, politician and democrat Larry Suffredin claims this won't result in added costs to an almost bankrupt Cook County:
- Commissioner Larry Suffredin, a North Side and suburban Democrat, said the state’s attorney is already on retainer to the county board and it wouldn’t cost extra taxpayer dollars. Plus Suffredin, an attorney, says the county is on solid legal ground.
Yeah, until an Appellate Court finds in favor of Chuck's and the other plaintiffs and Cook County ends up cutting one of those giant novelty checks like the NRA recently received from Chicago and Oak Park for a few hundred thousand in legal fees.
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
43 Comments:
What they seem to fail to realize is that this tax makes the black market weapons sales that much more lucrative.
Just like the drug bans today, and the smoking bans in casinos today and the alcohol bans of yesterday.
We'll still have money in the pension system to steal to pay back that $100 million dollar Fed loan Rahm made to build a River Walk tho I'll bet.
Doubt that the Cook County gun tax will raise $600,000 a year. Would be surprised if it raises $6,000.
As for the lawsuit not costing the county because the State's Attorney's office will handle the case: Good luck. The CCSAO attorneys are criminal lawyers. Not civil.Not civil rights lawyers. They can lose the case big time and cost way more than specialized outside counsel would have cost.
A little off topic: There are 69 days left on the CCW Law countdown.
The Illinois State Legislature is on spring vacation for another week.
Haven't heard a single good idea coming out of them yet. The best thing for the Republicans to do is nothing. Let the Dumbocrats own the whole stinking mess.
All their proposals are terrible. And what about the issue of reciprocity of other states' permits??
"Expected to bring in just $600,000 in revenues this year,...:
I guess Prickwinkle is figuring on Concealed Carry laws passing.
Preckwinkle has found a way to "defray" some of her own expenses. It seems that Aramark co. lost a contract to supply food to the County Jail even though their bid was 2 MILLION lower than a friend of Preckwinkle's who "donates" bigtime to her "campaign". Just another Hyde Park Liberal grabbing all she can with both hands! Scumbag thief!
Here's a thought, when a GSW comes in and they don't have an insurance card on them, just finish the job and call it a day.
just like cigarettes gas and food, people will just go out of county for their needs.
she can make the taxes as high as she wants no will she recover that lost tax
The stupidity and ignorance of Illinois Democrats never ceases to amaze me
They repeatedly get their ass handed to them by the courts on
2nd Amendment issues, but keep doing the same stupid shiit over and over again
And the room-temperature I.Q. residents of Crook County keep voting for them
If you had kept the penny tax, we wouldn't have to be worried about all these other taxes.
for school teacher to say 600k will help defray costs of gunshot victims at county health facilities is laughable. when school teacher hires all the hacks necessary to process the tax receipts the money will be all gone.
remember its for the children (the cook county voter). feel offended yet?
So will this be next chain of events:
1. More folks buy outside of Cook County. Cook County loses more tax revenue.
2. Cook County gets pissed; sends even more undercover goons to collar county FFLs to make straw/otherwise illegal purchases to punish those FFLs for selling to Cook County residents.
3. EVEN MORE FFLs will go the Mega Sports route and simply refuse to sell to anyone from Cook County.
A buddy of mine is a small time FFL in Will County. After one too many suspicious "buyers" from Cook County; he had to make the decision to not sell to ANYONE from Cook County. Does he miss out on business/future referrals? Yes.
Does he worry about getting:
1. Raided by a Cook County SWAT team?
2. Hit with some bullshit felony charges?
3. Losing his FFL/shop/inventory?
4. Losing his "real" job because of the felony charges?
5. Losing his life savings/house defending himself against those bogus felony charges, (while unemployed)?
No, or not nearly as much as if he was selling to Cook County residents.
Sorry Cook County folks - you're just not worth the risk.
Anonymous said...
Preckwinkle has found a way to "defray" some of her own expenses. It seems that Aramark co. lost a contract to supply food to the County Jail even though their bid was 2 MILLION lower than a friend of Preckwinkle's who "donates" bigtime to her "campaign". Just another Hyde Park Liberal grabbing all she can with both hands! Scumbag thief!
4/01/2013 02:34:00 AM
Feds?? Oh never mind. All they care about is catching another cop working with a tow truck.
G.A.T. Guns in East Dundee on Route 25 just North of I-90. Good prices, good service and just over the county line into Kane County.
Why does preckwinkle want to tax the law-abiding gun owners for the consequences of illegal gun owners? oh that's right -- the illegal gun owners are the gangsters who get out the vote in the wards with a predominant gangster population.
truth hurts sometimes.
it would be like putting an extra tax on law-abiding people who get drivers licenses instead of punishing the suspended drivers who never pay their fines.
How about gang members who are gunshot victims just don't get health services . . .
These lawyers always know what the law is...RIGHT....
In New Orleans during mardi gras a drunk graduated law student yelled to a N.O. police officer that "Im a lawyer and I know my rights". It brought an immediate arrest a tear to my eye when he was arrested and thrown into the drunk tank.
They will never learn, will they?
County won't lose this lawsuit. 25 bucks isn't a prohibitive tax. Had it been 200, chuck's would have a case.
Fuck crook county!!! A tax to keep guns outof the hands of law abidding citizens. It is not a problem in the normal peoples community! Its in the other peoples community..
Cook County is the cloaca of America. Google it.
Yet we keep voting these assholes in. Go figure.the real reason behind this tax is to simply force honest business out of the county....for the gangbangers and liberal assholes
Lets see, Preckwinkle goes around with armed body guards 24/7. Her world is safe, very safe.
what bullshit. its all about generating money for the county and has nothing to do with nor will have any impact on gun violence. anybody that thinks otherwise is an idiot.
They should keep the bonds up to par. Fine those arrested and put the money toward cc hospital, as these are the future recipients of medical treatment from cc hosp. This will cut back on crimes and shootings, and give the tax paying citizen his relief. Have to go now, as I am going across the state line in Indiana to do my shopping. Buy gas, cigarettes, food, guns, and gamble at the nearby casino. There's even a Walmart at the state line, which the city previously stopped construction in the city.
Buy outside of Cook County, buy in Indiana or Wisconsin. Screw her and her bogus tax.
This county is run like the city and the state, BY A BUNCH OF ASSHOLE'S. If we are so stupid to put democraps in office again we deserve all the shit we get from these ignorant self serving morons.For the sake of this once great state, county and city vote these pond scum out. Haven't we learned our lesson w/ the daley's, now the rham's prickwrinle's an Quinn's wake up you guy's or they will take us all down,
Sorry Peckerwinkle, but no one will purchase a gun in crook county anymore. There are plenty of dealers outside crook county. Unfortunately the local businesses will suffer your stupidity. Dumbasses!
This is just another version of the old poll taxes.....can't force someone to pay a tax to exercise a constitutional right.
They'll lose big time when this gets to the Appellate Courts
YAY more legislation aimed at making lawmakers and the anti-gun crowd "feel good," but that won't actually do anything but pull businesses out of Cook County. Way to go guys! Are you feeling warm and fuzzy now? Cause I'm sick of my taxes going up so you can feel like you got something done in this County!
Every law-abiding gun owner is going to already know about this tax and hightail their purchases out of Cook County. While I feel really bad for the businesses this affects, I hope Preckwinkle's stupid tax fails miserably.
The law-abiding get fucked again. Citizens who buy guns legally are paying for those who neither buy nor use guns legally. How the fuck is this a good idea, let alone legal? That's like adding a tax to your drivers license so you can pay for the victims and offenders of dui. WTF!
thank god I buy my guns outside crook county.
Let's charge a $5.00 tax on the local rags that call themselves newspapers. See how fast they would cry.
Preckwinkle and the Cook County Board members who voted for the $25 tax are just plain stupid. What potential gun purchaser in their right mind will buy in Cook County?
They'll buy in Lake, DuPage, Will, McHenry and Kendall Counties, even Indiana and Wisconsin. It's not like you buy a firearm often.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Cook County is the cloaca of America. Google it. I did! How true.
They want the cook county gun shops to close. They dont want any law abiding gun owners in cook county. They only want victims. They only want the gang bangers to have guns.
Is Crook County/Chicago next?
SACRAMENTO, Calif., April 1 (Reuters) - The city of Stockton, California, is eligible for bankruptcy protection, a federal judge ruled on Monday, turning aside creditors' arguments that the city was not truly insolvent when it sought protection and had improperly failed to seek concessions.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/01/stockton-bankruptcy_n_2993961.html
Would it be too much to ask for a $25 tax on Air Jordan's and FUBU products to pay for firearm safety classes?
The gunshops should...
A. Offer a $25 discount to pay the tax if the customer is or becomes an NRA member.
B. Look at the gun here but if you want to save $25, and maybe more in sales tax go to our other store where we have a shooting range.
>>>Anonymous said...
They want the cook county gun shops to close. They dont want any law abiding gun owners in cook county. They only want victims. They only want the gang bangers to have guns.
4/01/2013 10:42:00 PM<<<
Because gang bangers vote. Years ago when all voting was on election day and they would have 3-4-5 voter receipts in their pocket.
I'd be wiling to bet every one of them now over 18 is registered to vote and never misses an election even if the never set foot in a polling place.
Only 23% of cops vote.
Taxation Without Representation....
Another tax by crook county democRats on the working class .
When will the working class wake up and elect new leaders .
Because gang bangers vote. Years ago when all voting was on election day and they would have 3-4-5 voter receipts in their pocket.
I'd be wiling to bet every one of them now over 18 is registered to vote and never misses an election even if the never set foot in a polling place.
Only 23% of cops vote.
4/02/2013 01:54:00 AM
No, 82% of cops vote. Before you tell me to prove it, prove YOUR bullshit assertion.
Anonymous said...
Is Crook County/Chicago next?
SACRAMENTO, Calif., April 1 (Reuters) - The city of Stockton, California, is eligible for bankruptcy protection, a federal judge ruled on Monday, turning aside creditors' arguments that the city was not truly insolvent when it sought protection and had improperly failed to seek concessions.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/01/stockton-bankruptcy_n_2993961.html
4/02/2013 12:08:00 AM
No.
A Federal judge would order 1) that the City books be opened, and 2) that TIF money be applied to ALL outstanding debt.
Can't have that, now, can we?
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