Bye Bye VRI
The end is near (or at least a major reduction):
- About 200 police rookies will be working foot patrols in Chicago’s most dangerous zones by the end of the summer — and the department will cut back sharply on veteran officers working overtime there, a top police official said Tuesday.
The 20 “impact zones,” mostly on the West and South sides, have contributed to the city already spending about two-thirds of the police overtime budget for 2013, the Chicago Sun-Times reported earlier this month. Crime has fallen sharply in the zones, according to the department.
- In March, the department doubled the number of veteran officers working overtime in the zones to 400 a day. They patrol the zones in cars on their days off. So far, at least 48 rookies have been assigned to foot patrols, spread among five of the zones.
The goal is a roughly equal split of rookies and veteran officers working overtime in all 20 zones by September, said Robert Tracy, chief of the department’s crime control strategies. Tracy said he envisions slightly more than 200 rookies and about 200 veterans in the zones by then.
On May 14, the department announced the graduation of 105 rookies from the police academy and said they would be assigned to Operation Impact after a three-month training program.
This also reminds us about a theory piloted here a month or two ago. That these rookies may be left in place at the Areas, answering to the Deputy Chief, as a Saturation/TRU/Task Force, assigned as needed to whatever hotspots the bean counters come up with.
This could literally be a wholesale change in how PPO's graduate, train and serve until they are able to bid out to District openings, and we all know how many openings have been posted in Districts for the past three years - not many at all.
This could literally be a wholesale change in how PPO's graduate, train and serve until they are able to bid out to District openings, and we all know how many openings have been posted in Districts for the past three years - not many at all.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
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Another rumor we heard at VRI last night was that the PPOs would be placed in a 2-man squad car to sit in the boxes.
NO FTO, NO senior officers.
God help them.
I hope some one tells them what the score is and to not get out of the damn car.
Well at least the Sgts will continue to make the big bucks!!!
Per Lt. KANE of VRI South:
On 16 June the number of officers will be cut from 400 to 315 citywide.
The middle of June . . ahh what the hell. Things will probably slow down by then anyway right?
Yeah I read it on fox chicago, thanks for breaking my heart a second time today.
http://shot97.com/2013/05/rapper-chief-keef-arrested-again/
How about an event number?
Off topic........The tenth district is now a horrible place to work. I would suggest anyone thinking of going to 010 to wait until the DC and her crew get out.
Deja Vu! This seems eerily similar to the days just before MSF was formed. Looks like the CPD brass has learned something from history. If you're only going to get newbies to volunteer for an "elite" unit you might as well involuntarily draft them while they still lack union protection. Interesting. God save the POs on probation.
OT More Apple picking in 018 tonight, both offenders in custody charged with robbery. Remember to tell family to be careful downtown. Downtown is safe, just ask Rahm.
Like any other decision this department has made over the last 5 years, this one will come to bite them and the city in the ass.
The clear and vast majority of the ppos are clueless when it comes to handling "on views" that are in the gray area of policing. They are unsure of themselves and of what they know. Consequently, they take action when no action is needed or required.
This will bite the city in the ass when it comes to lawsuits down the road. Certain law firms are already looking into how they can make a profit out of the inexperience of these cops.
The department's view is basically: we will deal with it when it happens. By then it will be too late for the city and for the ppos. Loevy and Loevy will jump on this.
Additionally, these ppos are getting next to no oversight. A few of the sergeants and officers in 006 look after them and so do the VRI teams, but by the veterans aren't there where these ppos stumble on shit.
Let these new recruits get some time under their belt being mentored by veteran cops. Don't leave them out there to be hung up and dried, or worse, yet, thrown under the bus.
Yet, McCarthy and his band of "yes" men seem to think that they have solved all of the cities problems with a cheap fix.
Look, Emanuel and McCarthy, there are no cheap fixes.
Daley and Emanuel tried to keep the budget down by not hiring police for a couple of years. What happened to crime when this moratorium on hiring went into effect? About a year later, crime started rising. Now in order to fix the problem in a panic, the brain trust that runs the CPD, puts something together on the cheap.
I tell you, this will back fire. When I work VRI, I see how the "locals" have no respect for the recruits and the recruits don't know how to deal with it, if it weren't for seasoned coppers to watch their backs.
The politicians do not care about the people, they care only about what the people perceive. Therefore, the city will screw any copper over, most especially these new ones, if it will help with perception.
I feel sorry for the new guys. No pension, no contract, no cars, no pdt's, etc... But some will be wearing jeans in no time because their parent drinks beer with someone. Welcome to the chicago police department!
Noooooooo!!!!!
I love being retired.
I/F
"In March 400 officers...." Yada yada...
Know what they are doing on days?
Street cleaning and rush hour.
Violence reduction initiative my white hairy arse
Remember to tell family to be careful downtown. Downtown is safe, just ask Rahm.
5/29/2013 12:43:00 AM
My family doesn't go downtown. They're smarter than that. They don't even live in the city.
How will I pay for my new boat, home addition, motorcycle, BMW and girlfriend on the side, without VRI?
Off topic........The tenth district is now a horrible place to work. I would suggest anyone thinking of going to 010 to wait until the DC and her crew get out.
5/29/2013 12:33:00 AM
Wanna do rock, paper, scissors? Because 011 sure sucks these days.
>> Here's what I don't get about your stance on this position. Coppers can already carry concealed. So can retirees. Why do you or I care about the rest? Now, I'll have to worry about the law abiding citizen who is having a bad day and has a gun in his possession. It may make sense to Joe citizen who can't carry now, but I don't understand how any copper, who actually does anything on the street, thinks this will make his job easier. And no, it isn't all about me. I did my time and I'm out of here in about ten minutes <<
It's because you're a clueless douchebag. Someone who is law abiding, bad day or not, is by definition someone who doesn't break the laws. Thus there is no need for worry.
Why "care" about our fellow citizens and their ability to defend themselves from crime? Did you really ask that? You are either 1) trolling for a reaction or 2) incredibly stupid.
Either way, Maybe it's because our spouses, children, mothers, fathers, brothers and sisters are not all the police.
That's like saying only police cars should come equipped with seat belts. Because only police lives are worthy of saving.
Constitutional rights were not designed to "make your job easier". They are the very basis of Freedom and Liberty. Something you obviously have no clue about.
You claim you are close to retirement. I find this claim doubtful. You aren't even the police if I were to make a guess. If you did somehow manage to get on the job, its only because the standards were lowered to obtain more of a certain demographic.
But we both know you're lying. Nice try
If one of these rookie coppers gets shot on foot patrol Garry McCarthy and his idiotic plan will be solely to blame. Foot patrols in the Chicago ghetto is a horrible idea. Foot patrols may work in dense urban areas like NYC but they don't work in the Chicago ghetto where there is constant gunfire and stray bullets on weekend nights.
Where did Garry McCarthy get his online degree from? Because he is seriously lacking critical thinking skills.
Anonymous said...
Off topic........The tenth district is now a horrible place to work. I would suggest anyone thinking of going to 010 to wait until the DC and her crew get out.
5/29/2013 12:33:00 AM
OK, Tell us what is so bad about 010?
Same hair-gels and 'big shot' tact guys as before commander got here!!!
Did '2 year wonder' with no seniority get denied time again???
Poor baby, you're new to the game.
Man Up and do your job.
Really all you PPO's don't realize the writing on the wall. SuperMac has made it clear, blueshirts don't mean shit unless you got a phone call, in that case you get to go to 016 for PPO time and then sit, the rest of the herd gets sent to the slaughter.
Keep a list of the PPO's sent to 016 that will be identical to the sgt and det promotion list in 5 years.
Oh no, how are the many gonna pay for their new toys they bought?
Good end VRI so we all can go back to doi g nothing in the district
hold onto your hats were in for a rough ride this Summer.I'm Basking in the Sun in District Central:)
Kid, if your not clouted, get out NOW! Your still young enough to get on a real department or agency where they won't throw you under the bus in a New York Second ;). This city, the brass, and the politicians don't give a rats ass about unclouted coppers.
Teaching a new generation of police the art of calling for a paper car. TRU dat.
Funny how giving up the rights for PPO's comes back to bite us in the ass.
The city out smarted the FOP a few years back.
Now we are out millions in overtime.
Don't worry everyone your pension is forever!
The Blackhawks is the only thing you need to worry about...
I know V.R.I. pays well but getting really sick of people coming into roll call saying "Dude I'm going in the hole,dead from V.R.I." and not focussing on their real job. It's also embarrassing to see the absolute "Sandbagging" of hard working people to get the V.R.I. numbers. It can't end soon enough, it's starting to remind me of the way coppers sell their soul for the Retro Check,then buy a motorcycle or snowmobile. It's the Police Link Card.
They'll be fine.
This is dangerous plain and simple a three month course is not going to replace proper real life street training. The department should put these new officers into patrol at the districts were they are needed. Then maybe the A&A's would be fully staffed. Then we would have full compliment of cars and eliminate backlogs!! Second I am sick and tired of poor communities getting all the police attention while the working class who are paying the taxes to begin with get minimal protection for our communities. Enough is enough!!!!
OT: How come no acting Chief of Detectives named. I heard a certain greek exempt that thought he was a shoe in, isn't a shoe in after all.
There will be plenty of District bid openings.
In 003,005,006,007,008,009,011,015,etc.
Just recently heard that some of ppo's were running to a man with a gun call that was about three blocks away from their post. someone is going to get seriously hurt. Why are they putting ppo's by themselves, in the districts they can't work with another po, it has to be a fto. According to new order that the city issue. That is why they are riding 3 ppo's plus fto. Which makes absolutely no sense. But also blame the fto's cause they are not bitching, why cause they filling an out of grade slip for each ppo that they have.
My suggestion to the Department would be to make it manditory to put one recruit with a veteran officer in each car for VRI. No more picking your own partner. This way the veteran officer can act as an FTO.
Also overheard.
Public Transportation=
No C/O
No Capt.
One Lieutenant
Handful of Sergeants
25% of the allotted P.O.s budgeted.
A Transit System almost comparable to New York's'
Does this mean that after Labor Day this Unit will be disbanded and resurrected down the road as a different entity with no bids?
I agree with 0127. Sending out PPO's without proper supervision/training is a disaster waiting to happen. Retired Sgt.
City motto: If it ain't broke, fix it until it is. I'm pissed. VRI was a good thing. City won, officers won, citizens won. Everyone was happy. Now the city has essentially shot themselves in the foot, bc with no VRI incentive, officers will no longer be proactively looking for tickets/parkers/etc. Wtg city! You've boned yourself again!
''welcome to the jungle'' it gets worse here every day
Putting rookie officers in the most dangerous neighborhoods is true asshattery at it's finest. Even a civilian could tell you that it is nothing but a recipe for disaster and sooner or later one of these rookies will end up hurt, or worse. McAsshat truly has no clue what he is doing.
It was simply a matter of time.
Classic story on page 18 of the Suntimes.. Renewed call for level 1 trauma center at U. of C. So when the career criminal is wounded let's get them to the hospital asap. To keep them alive to commit crimes and serve society no purpose another day. U of C. needs to stand there ground.
Hey young-uns, your check is the same for just sitting there.
Remeber these words, yes boss. Then do what you need to.
So... A conscious decision by the McMooky and his New York brain trust that be to basically throw the PPOs to the wolves if they're forced to take action in a gray-area scenario?
This must be the "New Yuck Way" of managing your most precious Police asset... Your new recruits.
The intended consequence is to ruin these young Officers?
We see the hidden hand of bean-counterism disguised as "Police Management."
*It worked this way in New York so it can work here in Chicago*
Uh-uh Jackson... Two ENTIRELY different critters altogether.
There is not, nor will there ever be, a universal model in regard to Policing.
We're currently afflicted with all manner of uproar because the current crop of carpet-baggers are such Police geniuses by virtue of hailing from the center of the Police universe which is NYC... *Sarcasm: On/(OFF)*
Our years of being a Patrolman tell us that when you have a group of people in charge who honestly believe they're smarter than everybody else, EVERYTHING they do is going to be counter-productive if not destructive.
Everything within the Policing realm, according to these people, MUST BE re-booted, re-constituted and thoroughly re-chewed, re-digested and re-defecated until it is reduced to some nameless and valueless something stationed below shit in the hierarchy of things...
Because they KNOW so fucking much.
Here in Chicago, we put a value on trying to make sure our young Patrolmen are able to protect themselves in the many instances of dynamically gray area Policing.
The moves being made of late seem to relegate them to being window dressing and cannon fodder for the sake of politics.
Police Legitimacy in a pig's eye.
Political legitimacy and ass covering to please a constituency that has demonstrated and repeatedly stated they have no use for The Police until a wash-down and corpse disposal is needed.
Shotified muthafuckahs just layin' around are bad for business.
#NOTALKING and shit...
Right?
sure hope they dont try to repo my bike and car. I was counting on the money!!!!
5/29/2013 01:27:00 AM
You are a goof and this is coming form a PPO. Yes, I said it, you are a goof. What makes you think that just because you have "time" on the job you are better than someone fresh out of the academy? I am so sock of this attitude. What matters is job competency. Our job is not rocket science. As a PPO I have seen how some of you "veteran" officers handle jobs (not giving paper on domestics, not arresting a domestic offender, not even properly searching a subject who matches a description of a person with a gun call, not even getting out of the fucking car while interviewing someone, etc.). If that is the kind of "experience" you "veteran officers" have then keep it! LOL.
VRI was never meant to last.
The city got plenty of coppers to jump through all sorts of hoops to work it and now will begin pulling the rug out from underneath them.
Funny how giving up the rights for PPO's comes back to bite us in the ass.
The city out smarted the FOP a few years back.
Now we are out millions in overtime.
Don't worry everyone your pension is forever!
The Blackhawks is the only thing you need to worry about
I came on the job in 1985. We had a year probation. Is a few years the 70's?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
5/29/2013 01:27:00 AM
You are a goof and this is coming form a PPO. Yes, I said it, you are a goof. What makes you think that just because you have "time" on the job you are better than someone fresh out of the academy? I am so sock of this attitude. What matters is job competency. Our job is not rocket science. As a PPO I have seen how some of you "veteran" officers handle jobs (not giving paper on domestics, not arresting a domestic offender, not even properly searching a subject who matches a description of a person with a gun call, not even getting out of the fucking car while interviewing someone, etc.). If that is the kind of "experience" you "veteran officers" have then keep it! LOL.
5/29/2013 01:43:00 PM
What makes us think we're better than a punk fresh out of the academy? The fucking experience we already have that you don't have a fucking clue about, shittard. This is the problem with today's fucking little PPO's. They think they know it all just because they watched fucking COPS for a few years and have recently been brainwashed by a few other cops selling whatever fucking bullshit city hall wants you to believe.
Grow the fuck up punk, and learn you don't know fucking shit, and your little pissant time you just spent in the academy hasn't prepared you for a fucking thing other than to yes ma'am your fucking way into a god damn beating because you're too fucking stupid to understand what's happening in front of you.
So if in fact you actually are a little PPO, the sum answer to kids like you is a nice big GO FUCK YOURSELF LITTLE KID, YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT.
Looks like a fucking ass beating is the only thing that's gonna snap your fucking head outta your ignorant ass.
And as for not dribbling off paper every time some fuckhead claims they want it, you got a long way to go punk.
Anonymous said...
I agree with 0127. Sending out PPO's without proper supervision/training is a disaster waiting to happen. Retired Sgt.
5/29/2013 10:43:00 AM
Some of these pissants know it all don't ya know. They got all the answers because some hider down on Jackson told them so.
They're the real police. Just ask them, they'll tell you don't know shit and they know it all.
Let 'em find out the hard way. Then tell them to go fuck off just for good measure. They gotta learn some day. May as well make it stick real well after the first few times.
5/29/2013 01:27:00 AM
You are a goof and this is coming form a PPO. Yes, I said it, you are a goof. What makes you think that just because you have "time" on the job you are better than someone fresh out of the academy? I am so sock of this attitude. What matters is job competency. Our job is not rocket science. As a PPO I have seen how some of you "veteran" officers handle jobs (not giving paper on domestics, not arresting a domestic offender, not even properly searching a subject who matches a description of a person with a gun call, not even getting out of the fucking car while interviewing someone, etc.). If that is the kind of "experience" you "veteran officers" have then keep it! LOL.
5/29/2013 01:43:00 PM
"Whistle noise"
You are a goof and this is coming form a PPO. Yes, I said it, you are a goof. What makes you think that just because you have "time" on the job you are better than someone fresh out of the academy? I am so sock of this attitude. What matters is job competency. Our job is not rocket science. As a PPO I have seen how some of you "veteran" officers handle jobs (not giving paper on domestics, not arresting a domestic offender, not even properly searching a subject who matches a description of a person with a gun call, not even getting out of the fucking car while interviewing someone, etc.). If that is the kind of "experience" you "veteran officers" have then keep it! LOL.
5/29/2013 01:43:00 PM
lovely.
just plain lovely.
Chalkie
You are a goof and this is coming form a PPO. Yes, I said it, you are a goof. What makes you think that just because you have "time" on the job you are better than someone fresh out of the academy? I am so sock of this attitude. What matters is job competency. Our job is not rocket science. As a PPO I have seen how some of you "veteran" officers handle jobs (not giving paper on domestics, not arresting a domestic offender, not even properly searching a subject who matches a description of a person with a gun call, not even getting out of the fucking car while interviewing someone, etc.). If that is the kind of "experience" you "veteran officers" have then keep it! LOL.
5/29/2013 01:43:00 PM
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STFU rookie.
Violence reduction initiative my white hairy arse
5/29/2013 05:24:00 AM
bait not the Keesing Bandit.
Keep a list of the PPO's sent to 016 that will be identical to the sgt and det promotion list in 5 years.
5/29/2013 06:27:00 AM
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I was sent to 016 as a ppo over 10 years ago (left asap) and I'm pushing a beat car. Easy Francis.
Anonymous said...
5/29/2013 01:27:00 AM
You are a goof and this is coming form a PPO. Yes, I said it, you are a goof. What makes you think that just because you have "time" on the job you are better than someone fresh out of the academy? I am so sock of this attitude. What matters is job competency. Our job is not rocket science. As a PPO I have seen how some of you "veteran" officers handle jobs (not giving paper on domestics, not arresting a domestic offender, not even properly searching a subject who matches a description of a person with a gun call, not even getting out of the fucking car while interviewing someone, etc.). If that is the kind of "experience" you "veteran officers" have then keep it! LOL.
5/29/2013 01:43:00 PM
Settle down tiger, we know you have already mastered the job of police officer, and are wondering why you haven't made sergeant yet. But, in five years you will look back and see you didn't know shit but some of the ILCS, IVC, and a few general orders. Now is the time to learn the nuances of the job.
Good luck to you. Stay safe, and next time you see one of your listed transgressions, man-up and tell the "old timer" your opinion.
PPO 's are right on the money , working alone with other PPO's as back up will make them better Police Officers .
Sergeants will guide them to do police work the correct way .
PPO's don't need old dogs telling war stories and how to avoid work .
5/29/2013 01:27:00 AM
You are a goof and this is coming form a PPO. Yes, I said it, you are a goof. What makes you think that just because you have "time" on the job you are better than someone fresh out of the academy? I am so sock of this attitude. What matters is job competency. Our job is not rocket science. As a PPO I have seen how some of you "veteran" officers handle jobs (not giving paper on domestics, not arresting a domestic offender, not even properly searching a subject who matches a description of a person with a gun call, not even getting out of the fucking car while interviewing someone, etc.). If that is the kind of "experience" you "veteran officers" have then keep it! LOL.
You sir are an idiot. No go start the car and get the A/C running.
You just showed that you don't know what the hell you are doing.
Anonymous said...
5/29/2013 01:27:00 AM
You are a goof and this is coming form a PPO. Yes, I said it, you are a goof. What makes you think that just because you have "time" on the job you are better than someone fresh out of the academy? I am so sock of this attitude. What matters is job competency. Our job is not rocket science. As a PPO I have seen how some of you "veteran" officers handle jobs (not giving paper on domestics, not arresting a domestic offender, not even properly searching a subject who matches a description of a person with a gun call, not even getting out of the fucking car while interviewing someone, etc.). If that is the kind of "experience" you "veteran officers" have then keep it! LOL.
5/29/2013 01:43:00 PM
If you are really a just graduated PPO, then the academy failed its job to weed you out for mental issues. I would love to know who you are and discuss this issue. The brand new PPO who knows it all. STFU and grow up.
"Jumping through hoops." If you thought getting the numbers needed to get on VRI was jumping through hoops..... YOU ARE A DOGASS! Half the guys working VRI bring in absolutely zippo for 8 hours in a crime infested two block area. They are the ones that should be cut out of the program. McGoof should have a number system for what is done when the lazy dogass like yourself is working VRI. You and your ilk are an embarassment. No, Im not a hard charger, lets go get em kinda guy either. Just a guy with 23 years that does what he is paid to do. No extra effort. But your lazy ass will still rip me for saying the truth, and your response will prove you cant take it.
AMEN 1:43 PM. Supervisor w 20++ yrs on the job here. Plenty of sloppy policing out there by PO's who think they know everything. A big F/U to all of you that I should have gotten CR's on for shitty work and didn't.
You are right PPO 1:43PM. Keep doing the right thing and don't be swayed by the know it alls.
But let me add, that 01:27AM has a point, and is not a goof. There are no cheap fixes. I do believe that PPO's should have an FTO and not be out there by themselves. There are plenty of knowledgable PO's doing excellent work who can reinforce and enhance the experience gathering of PPO's. Supv w 20++ yrs.
Anonymous said...
5/29/2013 01:27:00 AM
You are a goof and this is coming form a PPO. Yes, I said it, you are a goof. What makes you think that just because you have "time" on the job you are better than someone fresh out of the academy? I am so sock of this attitude. What matters is job competency. Our job is not rocket science. As a PPO I have seen how some of you "veteran" officers handle jobs (not giving paper on domestics, not arresting a domestic offender, not even properly searching a subject who matches a description of a person with a gun call, not even getting out of the fucking car while interviewing someone, etc.). If that is the kind of "experience" you "veteran officers" have then keep it! LOL.
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keep your mouth shut kid. eyes open, mouth shut. someday you'll understand.
"You are a goof and this is coming form a PPO. Yes, I said it, you are a goof. What makes you think that just because you have "time" on the job you are better than someone fresh out of the academy? I am so sock of this attitude. What matters is job competency. Our job is not rocket science. As a PPO I have seen how some of you "veteran" officers handle jobs (not giving paper on domestics, not arresting a domestic offender, not even properly searching a subject who matches a description of a person with a gun call, not even getting out of the fucking car while interviewing someone, etc.). If that is the kind of "experience" you "veteran officers" have then keep it! LOL."
5/29/2013 01:43:00 PM
well said, from someone who has the courage and intentions to speak their mind.....now....from folks who have "time on the job"....get used to working for a city, and police (some) bosses, and political officials, who are the most corrupt, and have been the most corrupt, in the nation...so, when you, and others, are chasing felons down dark alleys, who are carrying guns and dope,(and by the way, guns and dope are coming into this country by the boatload).....you may come to find out that....you have worked holidays and weekends, missed out on a lot of family events.....to think that you maybe have made a "difference", then, when you get older, you realize that there is no difference....there is no solution....time goes on....
You are a goof and this is coming form a PPO. Yes, I said it, you are a goof. What makes you think that just because you have "time" on the job you are better than someone fresh out of the academy? I am so sock of this attitude. What matters is job competency. Our job is not rocket science. As a PPO I have seen how some of you "veteran" officers handle jobs (not giving paper on domestics, not arresting a domestic offender, not even properly searching a subject who matches a description of a person with a gun call, not even getting out of the fucking car while interviewing someone, etc.). If that is the kind of "experience" you "veteran officers" have then keep it! LOL.
Not a PPO and couldn't agree with you more, this job is a breeding zone of lazy half ass-ed self entitled assholes, who if they werent a cop would be a walking unemployment lawsuit in the private sector. Find the few who actually know what their doing, do things the right way and follow their lead.
My suggestion to the Department would be to make it manditory to put one recruit with a veteran officer in each car for VRI. No more picking your own partner. This way the veteran officer can act as an FTO.
5/29/2013 09:55:00 AM
your suggestion must be a thought from an idiot > read the FOP contract< overtime = seniority-you must be a goof.
and as for the PPO who talks like he is better than any veteran copper look at any veteran in the eyes or stand up at roll call speak your mind and see what an ass you will make out of yourself. its a brotherhood, are you sure you made the right choice to be on this job. go back to being a supervisor at your last job bc you will get hurt with your attitude towards veterans.
Hey PPO 1:43 PM. Sober up sport and go back to bed in mommy's basement. Holy shit. Hope that's all you were is drunk. Long career precious. Nite Nite now.
Call me when you have some time on the job and learn the following codes: 1P, 1E, 1F
Anonymous said...
5/29/2013 01:27:00 AM
You are a goof and this is coming form a PPO. Yes, I said it, you are a goof. What makes you think that just because you have "time" on the job you are better than someone fresh out of the academy? I am so sock of this attitude. What matters is job competency. Our job is not rocket science. As a PPO I have seen how some of you "veteran" officers handle jobs (not giving paper on domestics, not arresting a domestic offender, not even properly searching a subject who matches a description of a person with a gun call, not even getting out of the fucking car while interviewing someone, etc.). If that is the kind of "experience" you "veteran officers" have then keep it! LOL.
Anonymous said...
City motto: If it ain't broke, fix it until it is. I'm pissed. VRI was a good thing. City won, officers won, citizens won. Everyone was happy. Now the city has essentially shot themselves in the foot, bc with no VRI incentive, officers will no longer be proactively looking for tickets/parkers/etc. Wtg city! You've boned yourself again!
5/29/2013 10:53:00 AM
You're an asshole. VRI is NOT a good thing. It is a bandaid on a gaping wound.
The citizens didn't win where I live. We never see a beat car. But all the ghetto jagoffs that don't contribute ANYTHING reap the benefits of more police presence.
The officers didn't win in the grand scheme of things. You chumps working VRI (many like slaves...away from your family for your entire furlough ...THAT YOU TOOK EARLIER THAN USUAL JUST TO WORK VRI) have lost. How you ask? You've just shown the city - AGAIN, LIKE ALWAYS - that you'll bite at anything the city dangles in front of you for a quick extra couple of bucks. The city pays close attention to how you idiots that live beyond your means settle for bullshit retro while they rape you by taking away other benefits and rights.
The only winners in this equation is the City...just like always.
The only ones that have boned themselves are the greedy coppers that can't see the forest for the trees. You're all fiddles and Rahm and Company is Charlie Daniels. You get what you deserve, dummies.
Enjoy that new jet ski loser. You can sell it to cover a months prescriptions in a few years.
Very dangerous gamble, and McCarthy is using young police officer's lives as currency.
I love the trib's headline tonight "3 dead, 6 wounded in various shootings on south side." Various just sounds like the writers are so bored with the grinding sameness of all the mayhem that even they can't be bothered to jazz it up. Further in the report they added that one victim was sitting in a lawn chair drinking beer by the embankment of "some railroad" when shot. Some random railroad that just happened to be there.
Just because you don't have enough time on the job to get VRI don't take it out on everyone else... You have a point that's its a band-aid... But I don't Care! It's another 2000 bucks in my bank account! Another extra $2000 on my mortgage so that I can get the Hell out of Shitgago that much Sooner! So Fuck Off!
"What makes you think that just because you have "time" on the job you are better than someone fresh out of the academy?"
So in your theory I should have heart surgery performed by someone fresh out of Med School, rather than by an experienced Surgeon
blueshirts don't mean shit unless you got a phone call
What else is new? NOBODY CARES ABOUT PATROL.
"Plenty of sloppy policing out there by PO's who think they know everything. A big F/U to all of you that I should have gotten CR's on for shitty work and didn't."
People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Sit & Spin Asshat.
You are a goof and this is coming form a PPO. Yes, I said it, you are a goof. What makes you think that just because you have "time" on the job you are better than someone fresh out of the academy? I am so sock of this attitude. What matters is job competency. Our job is not rocket science. As a PPO I have seen how some of you "veteran" officers handle jobs (not giving paper on domestics, not arresting a domestic offender, not even properly searching a subject who matches a description of a person with a gun call, not even getting out of the fucking car while interviewing someone, etc.). If that is the kind of "experience" you "veteran officers" have then keep it! LOL
LOL to you my young friend. You have no idea how little you know.
SO lets see: You can work 5 days or even 6 days a week GREAT! here comes a proposed shitty 6-2 work schedule again. and only how many officers covered what areas well then we dont need a TRU or SOS.
5/29/2013 09:38:00 PM
Gee thanks "holier than thou". Must be nice to be independently wealthy. Douche.
Let's see the know it all PPO get out of a jam once he steps in shit. You won't be asking another PPO to help you. You'll be looking for a veteran officer for help. Work the ghetto long enough and see all the bullshit domestics and one day you'll get it.
You are a goof and this is coming form a PPO. Yes, I said it, you are a goof. What makes you think that just because you have "time" on the job you are better than someone fresh out of the academy? I am so sock of this attitude. What matters is job competency. Our job is not rocket science. As a PPO I have seen how some of you "veteran" officers handle jobs (not giving paper on domestics, not arresting a domestic offender, not even properly searching a subject who matches a description of a person with a gun call, not even getting out of the fucking car while interviewing someone, etc.). If that is the kind of "experience" you "veteran officers" have then keep it! LOL.
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This is coming from a retired veteran detective who retired with nearly 35 years otj.
Kid !! You are a first class chump and punk. Where did you grow up in, Glencoe or Wilmette.
You are clueless in coments are probadly is known to other coppers as a "trick."
You will probadly fuck up a crime scene and wish the vet' cover your ass. Tes, you and the shrink were on the same level, you are going to save the beast from capping each other. Maybe the good sgt will have you direct traffic on 63 & Racine on midnights. I bet your mama have has a warm bowl of oat meal waiting for you when you get home.
You should of took that job at Macy' in loss prevention cause you are already an ace dick !!
It will be over a year before you are driving a squad.
Stay safe anyway kid, prayers are in order for you. Too bad you don't have a sgt like the great Northside, I am sure he would go along with your bull shit !!!! LOL
No go watch re-runs of Adam 12.
At least in 015 there are ex-tact sgt's assigned to these guys/gals. There out there doing the job, working smart with what they got. The Sgt's are with them, not leaving them alone.
We got to stop bitching about this shit. There out there, everyone is told at roll call. Roll over to them, see if they need water a personal etc.. If your out there in the beat car then you should see them repeatedly. You should be responding to the same calls. There not assigned calls. We the beat and rapids/tact are.
There also in groups of 4 usually.
Be cognizant of where there at, as veterans watch out for them, were supposed to watch out for each other. No one else will.
Keep a watch on each other. We are all Blue!
Anonymous said...
5/29/2013 01:27:00 AM
You are a goof and this is coming form a PPO. Yes, I said it, you are a goof. What makes you think that just because you have "time" on the job you are better than someone fresh out of the academy? I am so sock of this attitude. What matters is job competency. Our job is not rocket science. As a PPO I have seen how some of you "veteran" officers handle jobs (not giving paper on domestics, not arresting a domestic offender, not even properly searching a subject who matches a description of a person with a gun call, not even getting out of the fucking car while interviewing someone, etc.). If that is the kind of "experience" you "veteran officers" have then keep it! LOL.
5/29/2013 01:43:00 PM
This kid needs a nickname. He ranks up there with Missy and company.
I'll start with SuperPPO. He'll also need some theme music for when he shows up to domestics to drop paper.
nonymous said...
I feel sorry for the new guys. No pension, no contract, no cars, no pdt's, etc... But some will be wearing jeans in no time because their parent drinks beer with someone. Welcome to the chicago police department!
5/29/2013 02:03:00 AM
No brains either.Should have applied else where.
To: 5/29/2013 01:27:00 AM
You are a goof and this is coming form a PPO. Yes, I said it, you are a goof. What makes you think that just because you have "time" on the job you are better than someone fresh out of the academy? I am so sock of this attitude. What matters is job competency. Our job is not rocket science. As a PPO I have seen how some of you "veteran" officers handle jobs (not giving paper on domestics, not arresting a domestic offender, not even properly searching a subject who matches a description of a person with a gun call, not even getting out of the fucking car while interviewing someone, etc.). If that is the kind of "experience" you "veteran officers" have then keep it! LOL.
5/29/2013 01:43:00 PM
From: Dude, you fucked up! You actually wrote "not giving paper on domestics." You showed how wet behind the ears you are. 'VICTIMS' WIPE THEIR ASSES WITH PAPER FROM DOMESTICS. You'll figure that out in about 10 years that the momma uses the domestic to extract more money from papa, while the PO/courts are the pawn.
America
5/29/2013 09:38:00 PM
Gee thanks "holier than thou". Must be nice to be independently wealthy. Douche.
5/30/2013 12:52:00 AM
Just remember what 9:38 says when your pension checks are very small because there not enough coppers paying into it. Save and live within your means. Do not help the city because they will assfuck you without any lube
10 is still a great District....people still get time due....a lot better than most districts...3rd watch is out of control....people do whatever the fuck they want....same people always late for roll call and the same people always leaving early or camping out in the station....
A number system for VRI for what? They do not want you going in the station with bullshit TVB's and dope arrests. The main concern is visibility and to have you stay in the box...is it that hard. are you saying we should violate someones rights just for numbers. My box is 1 by 2 blocks, sometimes their is nothing going on....How many bust outs can I contact card....just do what you are supposed to do...high visibility, go on in progress jobs and back up your fellow officers....not rocket science 23 year wonder who it seems does not have a clue...this program has been going on for a year and you still have not figured it out yet!!!!
WTF... Now I need to go out and purchase a pair of work shoes? I really enjoyed cracking my toes all tour while lounging in my cruiser.
You are a goof and this is coming form a PPO. Yes, I said it, you are a goof. What makes you think that just because you have "time" on the job you are better than someone fresh out of the academy? I am so sock of this attitude. What matters is job competency. Our job is not rocket science. As a PPO I have seen how some of you "veteran" officers handle jobs (not giving paper on domestics, not arresting a domestic offender, not even properly searching a subject who matches a description of a person with a gun call, not even getting out of the fucking car while interviewing someone, etc.). If that is the kind of "experience" you "veteran officers" have then keep it! LOL
This is why the Chicago Police academy is a fucking joke. Look at the attitude of this PPO. When the savage rises against you and your fucked up attitude we will see how elite you are. The problem is the academy is now a university. The Chicago Police Academy I went through was physically and mentally tougher. Now you have Instructors that never been the police and were nothing but desk bitches that teach there. Your what's wrong with this job. Can't wait for your ass to get whipped on the streets. How many guns or murderers have you gotten off the street? Keep handling your domestics, your a product of a bull shit police academy that has trained you to have a elite mindset that doesn't have training or experience to back up your non existent skill level.
Are you the same know it all PPO who couldn't answer a simple question. Or the smart ass PPO who patted a offender down and failed to find dope on him. Or were you the genius PPO who stood around with your hands in your pocket while a battery offender stood unsecured waving his hands all around. Well all I can say is good luck Junior your going to need it. I see a looking 29 and a day for you.
You are a goof and this is coming form a PPO. Yes, I said it, you are a goof. What makes you think that just because you have "time" on the job you are better than someone fresh out of the academy? I am so sock of this attitude. What matters is job competency. Our job is not rocket science. As a PPO I have seen how some of you "veteran" officers handle jobs (not giving paper on domestics, not arresting a domestic offender, not even properly searching a subject who matches a description of a person with a gun call, not even getting out of the fucking car while interviewing someone, etc.). If that is the kind of "experience" you "veteran officers" have then keep it! LOL.
Wish I knew who you were you little piss ant but it won't be hard to find you when your ass gets whipped by the south side or west side. I wish I could whip your ass first. That would have straightened your ass out. Its obvious the academy is at fault but look at the caliber of people teaching there. You snot nose little kid still living with mommy in her basement. Your the real police considering the weather hasn't even showed the savages true nature or your working in a BS district. Go and lock up duke and suddenly on a hot July summer night you have about 500 people on the scene telling you he's not going. Your probably directing traffic up in Wrigley and if you are working in a fast district it's only a matter of time before you get your ass handed to you. No problem there but your type also gets other officers hurt. Give me more background on where your working. So I can rip you too shreads. I also blame your FTO because he didn't fire your ass. I've gotten more guns in one day then you will in your career. Your a snot nose little kid that probably has a Masters degree. Will see how that degree helps you when your surrounded by the predators and your crying like a little bitch on the radio. Lol. This my fellow police officers is what's wrong with this job. You have PPOs that have never worked a hot summer in Chicago telling us how to do the job. We are doomed. God help us.
OK, it's getting out of hand. Foot Patrol will become the norm for Chicago PD. If you're a p.p.o on foot, realize that you are being hung to dry (literarily)... Rain and heat are your worse enemy. You should seriously debate in joining ISP, or at least a municipality with car only patrol. This is simply unsafe, a ridicule for long weeks of training, and at the end there's no guarantee this operation will disband. Work smart, not hard. Be safe first and foremost.
To the p.p.o's that are "YES SR." or "YES MA'AM"s, grow some balls and question this BS. assignment, don't prove it to the ghetto people of the south, prove it to your family and close friends you can make it home safely.
Anonymous said...
5/29/2013 01:27:00 AM
You are a goof and this is coming form a PPO. Yes, I said it, you are a goof. What makes you think that just because you have "time" on the job you are better than someone fresh out of the academy? I am so sock of this attitude. What matters is job competency. Our job is not rocket science. As a PPO I have seen how some of you "veteran" officers handle jobs (not giving paper on domestics, not arresting a domestic offender, not even properly searching a subject who matches a description of a person with a gun call, not even getting out of the fucking car while interviewing someone, etc.). If that is the kind of "experience" you "veteran officers" have then keep it! LOL.
5/29/2013 01:43:00 PM
Your'e just another dickhead who will wind up working at IAD because no one will work with you.
It must be really difficult for you, knowing everything there is to know about police work. Without having done any.
Did you ever think that PO's won't do anything while they're working with you because of your attitude?
first of all the way they run in is a joke. I love the money but we have no expectations of us other than rising around a 2 block box to stop THE NATIVES FROM KILLING ONE ANOTHER. very sad!
Easy money yes but how about a few nice pinches while you ar emaking time and half????
Anonymous said...
Teaching a new generation of police the art of calling for a paper car. TRU dat.
5/29/2013 07:38:00 AM
"We don't do paper."
to 11:07 a.m. You know whats really not rocket science being disciplined enough and not living outside your means, so you dont have to work a shit job like V.R.I. in the first place.
To 1107. Number system for VRI.
Never said jack about violating anyone's rights. Your the Dogass I was talking about. If they did not want numbers they wouldn't make you do humpers, make missions, create a package of papers at the end of the night and open a whole Zone for you to run names and plates that they keep track of But hey You have it all figured out over my 23 years. KMA to both your lazy ass and the rest that look at the CPD as their welfare check. there are alot of guys and gals that DO their job. Just a few of the little sissy types like you that whine and whine about this job and make it harder on the rest of us. I bet your a two personals every day with a 45 minute lunch guy that works harder at trying to avoid work then just doing the job would be. And answers the dispatcher after they call you on the radio for the fourth time with "Squad I was just about to......."
Like I said no run and gun hard charger here. Not holier then anyone. Just do what Im supposed to do and dont bitch doing it (most of the time) because while I'm not the smartest I have personal pride.
This kid needs a nickname. He ranks up there with Missy and company.
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Hi people, Missy here. What did I ever do to get disrespected by the above person. Yes, I am a parking ticket guru. I never say bad things about you grubs worms who do not help the city get revenue by weiting a book a day. Shame on this person. The poor PPO needs a person like me to guide him to be like me. A company P.O. Our mayor needs $$ people to get us that Maggie park and bike lanes.
I hope the ppo will come back to post and respond to being called a "Ring worm."
While, stay safe people. TGIF, being rdo sat/sun is great. But Sunday night a pre write ten books of parkers at home to be ready for those offenders parking like dupa's
Missy - o01 district
How is it being a dog ass by staying in your box and have high visibility. I pull cars over when I work VRI...if it warrants it....I am just saying that if you see something act on it if not no problem you are doing your job by just being there. And no, activity does not matter...they have to have humpers for accountability but they have already stressed that the main goal is VISIBILITY...Nobody whined and yes I do my job. I stay in the box, I act on anything I see that I feel is unlawful and most importantly I back up my fellow officers...i do not blow off jobs nor do I take two personals...you seem like the type that has to be constantly doing something to justify your position..people like you make Sgts crazy, just stay in your box and do what you have to do...also what missions are you talking about and what packages besides writing down your activity not rocket science...
to 11:07 a.m. You know whats really not rocket science being disciplined enough and not living outside your means, so you dont have to work a shit job like V.R.I. in the first place.
5/30/2013 06:42:00 PM
$60.00/hour is a shit job???? You are fucking retarded.
LOL.
Dude thinks humper's are something new. Let me explain something fuck head. VRI is there to keep some dumb fuck from killing some other dumb fuck. You are not doing that while you are in the station processing your POC arrest. You are also fucking your team members over by making them cover your box. You get a good pinch, fine, but a POC, PSC, TVB are not good pinches. If you think the boss is happy when dude get killed in your box while you processed a bullshit arrest then you are fooling yourself. VRI is about letting dude know you are a block away so he wont be tempted to blast off. It's called Violence Reduction Initiative not Clucker Reduction Initiative.
Anonymous said...
To the p.p.o's that are "YES SR." or "YES MA'AM"s, grow some balls and question this BS. assignment, don't prove it to the ghetto people of the south, prove it to your family and close friends you can make it home safely.
Since when do the ppo's get to question their assignments? Missed the part of the job application that states as a ppo you get to choose you assignment
Company p.o.'s are the ignorant uneducated perfectionists, who are very insecure, and tend to be a kiss ass. Usually talk about their own partners to fill a void. You have serious issues if you take a violation book and pre-write it, seriously make friends outside the dept., even better get laid. I bet you'll be forced to retire, what a lame.
To 23 years on you must have an inferior complex...no where did I say anything that can be construed as being a dog ass...I am just saying that the main goal of VRI is Visibility and no shootings in your boxes or zones. They do not evaluate success on activity just the before mentioned no shootings. I am not sure what I said that is considered whining or being a dog ass. I guess staying in the box, responding to in progress calls and backing up fellow officers is considered being a dog ass. I would say that if this was like saturation where activity and traffic stops were a must then you must do it, but that is not what they stress. God, this has been going on for a year and some people just don't get what they want...I mean LT. K only stresses it at every roll call.
But Sunday night a pre write ten books of parkers at home to be ready for those offenders parking like dupa's
Missy - o01 district
5/31/2013 03:59:00 AM
sounds like fun.
but count me out.
i've got other things to do.
Chalkie
To 10:38 obviously you are the one that is retarded if you have to go into the ghetto on your day off in uniform and stand in a box for $60 a hour I do much better in my side business and I dont have to listen to anyone.
How is making 60 dollars an hour staying in your box and watching dude a shit job? And no I do not live above my means and my world would not end if VRI stopped. But, how is getting a jump on school tuition, home improvements or paying for braces or a nice vacation living above your means. Would you say that about working CTA, CHA or any side security jobs that pay 20 dollars an hour. Some people have different needs asshole. I have a child with special needs and you would not believe the doors that this extra income opened for my child and if VRI stopped I would scrape and find a way to pay for it....
I'm not saying ppos can choose where they wanna go, if you read you perfectionist, I said...that they should question the fact that they are being thrown to the hood without proper tools. As such, they should not agree with what they are doing (being gunghoe), but instead they should take a stand and play the stupid numbers game of productivity. Hope that clears it for you.
I have been the police for over 30 yrs, and yes the new breed police think that their SHIT DON"T STINK", where do you goofs get off thinking that you are owed something and that you are entitled? You need to earn things, an sit in the academy and listen and learn, not question what the REAL POLICE say and do, just because your Daddy is or was the police, doesn't give you anything, and if your Daddy told you otherwise then both of you are goofs, sit back, listen and learn !!!!!!
Anonymous said...
To 23 years on you must have an inferior complex...no where did I say anything that can be construed as being a dog ass...I am just saying that the main goal of VRI is Visibility and no shootings in your boxes or zones. They do not evaluate success on activity just the before mentioned no shootings. I am not sure what I said that is considered whining or being a dog ass. I guess staying in the box, responding to in progress calls and backing up fellow officers is considered being a dog ass. I would say that if this was like saturation where activity and traffic stops were a must then you must do it, but that is not what they stress. God, this has been going on for a year and some people just don't get what they want...I mean LT. K only stresses it at every roll call.
5/31/2013 02:40:00 PM
Your right maybe your not the dog ass however when I have been to VRI guys brag about bring their DVD's watching Net Flix and how they aint doing shit. I know this is all about visibilty as well. But maybe watching the street a little instead of looking at the smart phone is what the goofs that brag about "I aint doin shit" shouldbe doing. Every Dogass that reads my comments and are offended by it knows exactly who they are. If you cant spot 1 person or vehicle in 8 hours on a cime infested area and get out of the car you dont belong being the police. What do think is more aggravating to the thugs of today.
1) Squad car occupied by 2 poice officers looking down at a glowing screen.
2) Squad car occupied by 2 police officers watching them.
3) Squad car occupied by 2 police officers who actually get out stop people once in awhile.
I Never said lock everyone up and shake em for a petty offense. P.O.C. is an ANOV along with many other offenses. Sgt have I-Bond books in some cars. Just a contact card for any other offense you make a stop. But a zero for eight means you are absolutly incompotent, a Dog, or the weather was pouring rain.
To 10:38 obviously you are the one that is retarded if you have to go into the ghetto on your day off in uniform and stand in a box for $60 a hour I do much better in my side business and I dont have to listen to anyone.
5/31/2013 08:33:00 PM
Good for you big shooter. You truly are a fucking retard if you think there are an abundance of side gigs paying $60/hour. Nobody is standing at VRI either unless they are taking a piss. Good luck on your side business, degrees that lead to untold millions, and yearly new cars. Now go tell someone who gives a fuck.
To 10:38 obviously you are the one that is retarded if you have to go into the ghetto on your day off in uniform and stand in a box for $60 a hour I do much better in my side business and I dont have to listen to anyone.
5/31/2013 08:33:00 PM
How dare you live outside your means and have a side business? You should really try and live with your salary and not try and better yourself. If you have something your co workers don't, they may get jealous and talk about your side business on the blog. Communism had infected the blog. Only living within your the salary from government provided job is acceptable.
For those working VRI, I can understand why you'd get burned out working on your days off non stop. I'd get sick too working the hood that has no hope. It's easy money, screw the people who say they don't do anything. Although I would only do it on my regular days of work if it was possible. The hood is fool of animals in a circus, it's good to learn the job there, but the reality is that crime are innate characteristics of these animals, you will not change that by "bringing them in," let natural selection amongst themselves occur, that is easier, cheaper, and efficient.
How dare you live outside your means and have a side business? You should really try and live with your salary and not try and better yourself. If you have something your co workers don't, they may get jealous and talk about your side business on the blog. Communism had infected the blog. Only living within your the salary from government provided job is acceptable.
Great comment, tired of hearing that guy judge everyone and rap about living within your means and by working VRI you come to work tired and put others at work. What about working a side business and coming to work tired or not being able to spend time with your family. Hard to run a business and sopend time with your family at the same time
What I'm really trying to say is let everyone do what they want and dont try to put your values or beliefs on others. We are all grown ups and have a right to make our own choices
Your right maybe your not the dog ass however when I have been to VRI guys brag about bring their DVD's watching Net Flix and how they aint doing shit. I know this is all about visibilty as well. But maybe watching the street a little instead of looking at the smart phone is what the goofs that brag about "I aint doin shit" shouldbe doing. Every Dogass that reads my comments and are offended by it knows exactly who they are. If you cant spot 1 person or vehicle in 8 hours on a cime infested area and get out of the car you dont belong being the police. What do think is more aggravating to the thugs of today.
1) Squad car occupied by 2 poice officers looking down at a glowing screen.
2) Squad car occupied by 2 police officers watching them.
3) Squad car occupied by 2 police officers who actually get out stop people once in awhile.
I Never said lock everyone up and shake em for a petty offense. P.O.C. is an ANOV along with many other offenses. Sgt have I-Bond books in some cars. Just a contact card for any other offense you make a stop. But a zero for eight means you are absolutly incompotent, a Dog, or the weather was pouring rain.
6/01/2013 12:32:00 AM
You might be the dumbest motherfucker in the world. I would guess less than 1% of the cars on VRI come with zeros. I'm gonna tell you this, and your not going to believe me, but its true. Nobody likes people like you. There is a word for people like you, it's trick. Running, blabbing all over the air about nonsense and blabbing all over the blog about shit you think you know. Your Sgt is annoyed by you because you are fucking bothering him on his day off. First rule of having a rapport with your supervisor: Make a decision and don't bother them with non sense.
To 12:32:00 AM:
Next time you have a hissy fit about what officers are doing at VRI, please take a basic English class before you post on here.
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