No Exempts in DC?
Well this is just sad if true:
- [McCarthy] hasn't got a clue. He is not respected, nor has he earned any. And he has no respect for us or this department, which was abundantly apparent these past few days in Washington DC at Police Week. About 200 blue shirts were there, 20 or so Sergeants, about a dozen Lt's, and a drove of retired guys including Patterson, Dugan and Folliard, but not one exempt, or Capt for that matter. Not One!!!
We thought our eyes were deceiving us, but we didn't see a single gold star in DC. We saw one of the retired exempts mentioned, but no current bosses. Of course, we couldn't be everywhere and we may have missed one, but this comment and a couple e-mails we received make us think this might be true. And that's just too bad if our "leaders" are so intimidated by McJersey that a representative contingent can't even leave town for two or three days to honor our dead at the National Memorial.
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posted by SCC at 12:02 AM
56 Comments:
Help me here. Because I really want to understand. In general, SCC spends a good part of its efforts cutting down the command staff -- be it for incompetence, clout or just general stupidity. The majority of command staff, after all, are just clout babies, political hacks who know little of real police work and just cash in on their connectivity and don't give a rats ass about those beneath them. They are not the police. They did little or noting to earn their positions. It seems more birthright than ability, right, SCC?
They sure sound like douchebags, don't they? They sure don't sound like the kind of men and women I would want representing me in our nation's capital during events honoring our profession. Right, SCC?
So, why, then, do we whine hopelessly when the same useless fartbags fail to show up and represent you? Are these wastes of human skin really worthy to show up in DC to represent us?
We detest their existence and wish they would vanish from the earth one day...but we somehow think so highly of them that we would expect them to carry our banner in DC? Ok, SCC, think I have it figured out now. Thanks.
I don't think it was because the exempts don't care; I think it actually is because so many of them are making whatever hasty plans they can to jump over the side of the U.S.S. Chicago! Last one over the side please turn off the lights, and bring those last cans of cat food with you, it might be a while waiting for rescue on Gilligan's Island!
Was there not one person above the rank of LT!
cpd graduation was on the 15th. maybe that's why.
SCC, I was in DC, got there early to salute the family of the fallen. Stayed late to stand at attention (for respect of the fallen and their families). That being said, your statement is true! There were a total of three (retired) exempts, four Lt's, twenty or so Sergeants and a large amount of PO's and retired officers.
I mention this because as anyone who has been there and stayed the entire time knows Chicago PD and the LAPD stand and salute the family and friends of those fallen officers who made the ultimate sacrifice. The LAPD had a Chief, five Captains, multiple Lt's and Sgt's along with many of their officers. Chicago has always been the most represented police department at the memorial but this year the LAPD may have taken over that honor.
As for the person who asked why "do we whine hopelessly when the same useless fartbags fail to show up and represent" us, I say they should show up not to represent us (chicago PD) but to honor (at any rank) those who gave all, for their city, state, town and this great country of ours.
Wrong, wrong. I'll let her identify herself, but at least one exempt was there.
Seems like something could be said about a whole "about 200" blue shirts out of 10,000 showing up. Double standard?
Even better.....CPD Honor Guard didn't go either. Not because they did t want to but because City Hall couldn't get off their asses and approve their travel in time. These guys do a great job and actually spend 12 hours driving to DC and then spend their time there in dress blues doing escorts and competing in the Honor Guard competition. Glad they stood their ground and told the City to pound sand.
5/18/2013 12:16:00 AM
J-Fled was hated but at least he went to DC. Yes, he ignored all blue shirts there but he was there to honor the fallen.
I guess these clouted few have shown their true colors.
Priorities. Since very few exempt have ever looked danger straight in the eye--Leo and Al excluded--they have no concept of honoring the fallen.
Anonymous said...
Help me here. Because I really want to understand. In general, SCC spends a good part of its efforts cutting down the command staff -- be it for incompetence, clout or just general stupidity. The majority of command staff, after all, are just clout babies, political hacks who know little of real police work and just cash in on their connectivity and don't give a rats ass about those beneath them. They are not the police. They did little or noting to earn their positions. It seems more birthright than ability, right, SCC?
They sure sound like douchebags, don't they? They sure don't sound like the kind of men and women I would want representing me in our nation's capital during events honoring our profession. Right, SCC?
So, why, then, do we whine hopelessly when the same useless fartbags fail to show up and represent you? Are these wastes of human skin really worthy to show up in DC to represent us?
We detest their existence and wish they would vanish from the earth one day...but we somehow think so highly of them that we would expect them to carry our banner in DC? Ok, SCC, think I have it figured out now. Thanks.
5/18/2013 12:16:00 AM
Although often times you may not respect the person who is in a position of management or leadership you still respect the position/office. Going out to DC and paying respect to those on this job who have made the ultimate sacrifice is the least you can do if you're in a leadership position of a law enforcement agency. It gives the appearance (whether true or not) that you actually give a damn about the men/women you're charged with leading.
Not McNitwit
Before anyone lauds the efforts of Danny Dugan and gives him a pat on the back, you need to remember just what a company man this asshole was and probably still is. Even after he got fucked over by the Dept, this rat-bastard came back from retirement and lied through his teeth to kill the ten-hour schedule for POs in the districts. A true company man to the end. Fuck him. He can stay away from DC for the rest of his life. He's not one of us and never will be.
I was there and it is true,there was not one exempt at the Memorial in D.C. Its sad when retired exempts(DUGAN,PATTERSON,FOLLIARD) show more respect for our fallen than our current ""leaders". What a joke this department has turned into over the past 10 years....
They'r scared to go to a place where they are NOT in charge and can't hide behind that gold star.
I know that there were more than one that had planned to make the trip, tickets an d all, but were told no at the last minute.
The second post was dead on. Anyone on this job over fifty is talking more exit strategy than crime strategy. When management treats you like garbage, there is no loyalty to the 'company' either. How do I best provide for my family?
I am not saying there will be sabotage on the way out, but there won't be much of an effort to make this Department or City a better place before they go. A battered wife will not make the bed before she runs.
Our "Command Staff" is a joke... Only two people worth anything....... Juan Rivera and Wayne Gulliford. The others are suck ass yes men and will do whatever told to "keep their spot" Juan should have been the superintendent... You have.complete goofs running this department they have zero respect for us and even for themselves, they are.cowards with shit in their blood. What a disgrace to have no command representation at the.DC.memorial. McJersey doesnt care about us he is a.politician/axe man doing what amounts to an accountants job... Cutting costs he could care less about me,you or anyones family. Its about the bottom line ONLY. Sad to say it... Jody Weis was better than this clown if he didnt lie about Cozzi he would probably have been one of the better Superintendents we have had... Gave us a lot of new things and got rid of a lot of bullshit orders etc... He had to take his orders from Daley and yes got rid of too many very good exempt staff but was not his choice...... To his credit.... Sad to have to say.
Anonymous said...
Help me here. Because I really want to understand. In general, SCC spends a good part of its efforts cutting down the command staff -- be it for incompetence, clout or just general stupidity. The majority of command staff, after all, are just clout babies, political hacks who know little of real police work and just cash in on their connectivity and don't give a rats ass about those beneath them. They are not the police. They did little or noting to earn their positions. It seems more birthright than ability, right, SCC?
They sure sound like douchebags, don't they? They sure don't sound like the kind of men and women I would want representing me in our nation's capital during events honoring our profession. Right, SCC?
So, why, then, do we whine hopelessly when the same useless fartbags fail to show up and represent you? Are these wastes of human skin really worthy to show up in DC to represent us?
We detest their existence and wish they would vanish from the earth one day...but we somehow think so highly of them that we would expect them to carry our banner in DC? Ok, SCC, think I have it figured out now. Thanks.
5/18/2013 12:16:00 AM
Couldn't pass a test if your life depended on it, could you? You must be a joy to sit in a beat car with for hours on end. Go drive a truck for Sears, moron.
Obama flew off to Vegas to party with Jay Z when Americans were being murdered in Benghazi. I didn't see McCarthy in Springfield for the police memorial nor did I see him in DC for the memorial. Fact...
Help me here. Because I really want to understand. In general, SCC spends a good part of its efforts cutting down the command staff -- be it for incompetence, clout or just general stupidity. The majority of command staff, after all, are just clout babies, political hacks who know little of real police work and just cash in on their connectivity and don't give a rats ass about those beneath them. They are not the police. They did little or noting to earn their positions. It seems more birthright than ability, right, SCC?
Then they say, dump McCarthy and the new supt should come from within the ranks of the CPD ????
To 12:16:00. Hey moron. The exempts aren't representing us. They're representing those who have sacrififced theyre lives for this job. You represent yourself and the dept you work for and those who have given the ultimate sacrifice. Get bent JO.
The Honor Guard wasn't sent either
Unfortunately, it is true. No exempts, no captains. More egregious, Chicago was not represented by CPD Honor Guard. The City has money to build a stadium for a private university, but does not have gas money to send the Honor Guard to DC for the National Memorial Ceremonies.
On a positive note, CPD was well represented by active personnel, retirees and friends. CPD accompanied by Suburban Police, State Troopers, and Amtrak lined the entryway for the Gold Star families. As customary, they lined up across from LAPD when the Gold Star Families exited. The first and last Law Enforcement the Gold Star Families saw was CPD/Illinois. Even a retired constable from the British Isles stood firm with CPD/Illinois.
Don Quixote de la Mancha
I concur I didn't see anyone higher than Lt that was an active member of CPD at any of the events. I realize there was a recruit graduation this week but that's still no excuse. The national memorial has been on the same dates for years, shame on the person who planned a graduation on the same day.
As for the earlier poster who stated that why would anyone whine about these people representing us? No one has to listen to any bs when you are standing at attention saluting the survivors of our fallen brethren who feed off of our support. Just go out there and show them some respect, the memorial is not about politics, policies or views. It's about those officers who made the ultimate sacrifice.
I remember years ago when a handful of the truly great bosses were a staple each and every year in DC...Harvey Radney, for example.
"...McCarthy] hasn't got a clue. He is not respected, nor has he earned any. And he has no respect for us or this department..."
This is so right. Can you imagine McNumnuts doing a commercial to re-elect the Rahmster.
HAAA! Take your shinebox and go back to Jersey!
Harder to suck-up from D.C..
I always laugh at these comments about how the exempt staff have never been the Real Police. Have you ever worked wIth any of them ?
Douche bags, waste of skin, vanish from the earth. WOW. I'm sorry you must be God's gift to the CPD and the human race. Take it easy Francis. You should get on the list for medical marijuana and chill out before you stroke out.
How embarrassing and a slap on the face from the Exempts of this Department!
An insult to those who made the ultimate sacrifice!
No wonder why these clowns don't get any respect from the rank and file!
Mc Jersey Goofball Supt. Needs to go to the unemployment line!
Da Pelon
As a GSF member I was in DC with family and did not see one single exempt. I understand that not all can make it each year but at least the First Deputy should be with us each year.
It just goes to show you that the exempts have their head up Gary's ass and are too concerned when they will be front and center at the next comstat meeting.
To all the PO's, Sgt's LT's and Retired Officers that were there to honor our fallen officers I thank you on behalf of my family and My Father.
I know that all the Fallen Officers in the star case thank us for never forgetting their sacrifice for us.
I will never forget how the Exempts dishonored the CPD this year.
A PO and the son of a Fallen Officer.
To the asshole talking shit about Dugan. You must be pissed because your a do nothing dog .Dan Dugan has no time for dogs and is a stand up guy who takes care of the working police.He is, and always will be the real police and was a great leader as a boss for CPD.I always see him at police functions talking to the troops and never acts like he is better than anyone just because of his rank. He will give you the shirt off his back and will protect you if you are in the right and are the working police. Gfys!!!!!! Go back to working the desk you pussy! Better yet, you sound like a cry baby firemen so if your upset with him about the ten hour day join the fire dept.
Absolutely true. No one there higher in rank than lieutenant. Our exempts make in excess of 150K a year and NOT ONE could spring for travel expenses out of their own pocket to make the trip to DC? Just sad. And we are supposed to respect these people?
Why is it that McMouth and Leo can travel the freaking country tooting those own horn, but they can't be bothered to honor our fallen? HYPOCRITES. Every last one of them.
Anonymous said...
How embarrassing and a slap on the face from the Exempts of this Department!
An insult to those who made the ultimate sacrifice!
No wonder why these clowns don't get any respect from the rank and file!
Mc Jersey Goofball Supt. Needs to go to the unemployment line!
Da Pelon
5/18/2013 03:14:00 PM
I think your wrong.I could care less about those clout hacks at my funeral.Ive gone so far as to tell a close civilian friend that if I meet my end on this job that I don't want any politicians or gold star hacks to attend and for him to specifically embarass them during my euology and ask them to get the fuck out.I want my brothers in blue to mourn me not some aldermans bitch boy with a badge.
Karen Lewis would have shown up!!
A few years back I was on the same plane as exempts heading to D.C. They had EVERYTHING paid for by the city. All they talked about was going to the outlet malls and then fine dining on the city's dime. No mention of the ceremonies.
I seen all the current bosses together over the weekend at chuckee cheese.
So let me get this right. The honor guard wouldn't go because the city wouldn't pay for their travel arrangements. Wow those sound like stand up guys. And anyone that talks bad about Dugan has obviously never worked for him.
I won't waste my time responding to your disrespect of a boss like Dugan. More of a policeman than you can ever be.
Unfortunately he never came back from retirement moron.
Get your facts straight.
A true company man to the end. Fuck him. He can stay away from DC for the rest of his life. He's not one of us and never will be....................................
You must be one of the biggest assholes to make a statement like the one above. He not only goes to DC every year he also attends all benefits.
And I'll bet someone like you contributes nothing!
Before anyone lauds the efforts of Danny Dugan and gives him a pat on the back, you need to remember just what a company man this asshole was and probably still is. Even after he got fucked over by the Dept, this rat-bastard came back from retirement and lied through his teeth to kill the ten-hour schedule for POs in the districts. A true company man to the end. Fuck him. He can stay away from DC for the rest of his life. He's not one of us and never will be.
5/18/2013 07:56:00 AM
Absolutely! You nailed it!
Phil always went, and always asked to take a group picture with us. There were a lot of brass with him back in the day. Interesting that two of the retires that went would have made outstanding, homegrown, Superintendants.
This current guy couldn't carry Folliards shoes.
As an FYI, the mayors office determines the recruit graduating dates.
Somebody tell Gilligan to go back to his island.
McCarthy sucks
TO: 5/19/2013 12:24:00 AM
You need to get your facts straight. Dugan did come back from retirement to testify at an arbitration hearing. He lied through his fucking teeth. Stand up guy. Yeah, right. If you don't believe me you can call FOP. I did. They sent me a copy of the arbitration decision after I inquired why we lost the ten hour days. You can read it in black and white.
Wait, that would take some work on your part. Nevermind, you're probably too busy on your knees idolizing the command staff that will continue to fuck you sideways for the rest of your career.
This current guy couldn't carry Folliards shoes.
5/19/2013 12:38:00 AM
Folliard is a 19th Ward political con-man. He's all bullshit and no substance. He does not even have a bachelor degree, but even he would be a better Superintendent than the NYC/NJ goof.
Summarizing some of the above comments ...
First of all, and most important, THANK YOU to those that honored our fallen this year (and years past)on behalf of the CPD. (SCC included)
In the past, the Dept. alternated Supt./1st Deputy annually at Springfield/DC Memorials. This year, notta! City Hall had a lot to do with that fact as was the scheduling (excuse) of the graduation.
The Honor Guard, who had many (full time) 'working' details scheduled in DC, (i.e. Honored wreath laying ceremony on behalf of the CPD in Arlington Nat'l. Cemetery, Honor Guard Competition in which they drilled many hours, mostly on their own time to represent US, posting of Colors at various Gold Star Family functions, Capitol Bldg. and Candlelight Vigil representation etc. just to name a few) did not get Code 49 authorization until the very last minute, which ultimately precluded their participation. Again, this was a 'CITY HALL' call.
As far as Dan Dugan, he has attended the National Memorial every year since 1991. Folliard's attendance also dates back that far as well, regardless of their rank or law enforcement agency affiliation at the time.
THAT in itself says something of the caliber of the man.
To the Gold Star Family member in attendance... YOU are the 'real' reason we attend annually as we hold true to that promise of, "Always Remembered" and "Never Forget." The reason the CPD remains 'to the end' as the surviving GSF depart, and are enjoined by the LAPD, is because we likewise hold true to our commitment to the GSF that,"They Should Never Walk Alone." (Our prayers remain with your family BH)
Finally, while this ("Insignificant") blog site is a venue for CPD to comment on a variety of topics (Thanks again SCC) let us not lose site of the 'real' reason why our members attend DC annually and that's to, "Honor Our Fallen." Please do not let the politics and personalities 'on-the-job' ever stand in the way of our values. We should 'Always Remember' and 'Never Forget' the REAL reason why we attend annually and continue to maintain the esteem and reverence toward all those whom have made the ultimate sacrifice.
May God Bless all our fellow 'First Responders' and may the souls of our faithfully departed, Rest in Peace. Stay Safe.
A brother.
Hey you non working Fuck. Dan Dugan was THE most stand-up boss I ever worked for. Always there for the guys and came to every benifit he could. So go back to mommy's basement and cry pussy.
remember your our support for CHICO well the mayor's office just can't get over it until the very end of his first term in office.
I thought I saw Penny Trahanas, isn't she exempt.
Who went from our Union? I heard a bunch of them went to some big fundraiser for Madigan in Springfield the same night as the memorial. Where was Mikey Donahue and the crew?
Sad doesn't begin to describe this. . . .
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I thought I saw Penny Trahanas, isn't she exempt.
5/19/2013 02:17:00 PM
No stupid, she is not exempt. She is a Captain holding the position of Executive Officer in a district. Captains are an SES rank. If you don't know what that is, go look it up.
"Dan Dugan was THE most stand-up boss I ever worked for"
THEREIN LIES THE PROBLEM...
"Dan Dugan was THE most stand-up boss I ever worked for"
THEREIN LIES THE PROBLEM...
5/20/2013 10:46:00 PM
Yes. It is a case of unwarranted gold-star worship.
Anonymous said...
I thought I saw Penny Trahanas, isn't she exempt.
5/19/2013 02:17:00 PM
YOU THOUGHT WRONG!
I was in Washington this year and saw at least seven members of the F O P
BOARD there. Mike Shields flew in on Tuesday night and flew out Thursday morning . He didn't get there until then because of contract negotiation talks.He has been at every DC memorial as well as the Springfield memorial the week before for at least the past four years. I can also say that there were no current exempt members in Washington this year but I did see the First Deputy in Springfield this year. FYI
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