Gun at Billiken
What's that you say? There are hundreds of guns at the parade?
Probably, but not all end up being seen and resulting in a chase by the recruits:
Probably, but not all end up being seen and resulting in a chase by the recruits:
- Who's brilliant idea was it to have the recruits from the academy out there in their bright yellow "Chicago police" vests, in their khaki shirts, with NO GUNS? After a native parade attendee delivers a good old fashioned Bud Billikin-style pistol whipping to someone, the recruit gives chase on a person known to have a gun- while the recruit is UNARMED! All ends well as bad guy goes to jail, and the gun is recovered, but this could have been really bad. Either treat them as police and put them out there, or don't put them out there at all. Either way great job by all involved, especially the recruit with no fear (or just dumb).
We know that the Department views the new guys and gals as cheap labor - mess with their hours, use them as traffic control, only grant them hour-for-hour on the books, etc. But the comment does have a point - you can't train them to be the police, put them in a police-environment, and expect them NOT to act like the police when something goes off in front of them. They're young, in shape, unencumbered by 20 pounds of equipment....they're going to run. That's what they're trained to do. In this case, it ended well, and it's great to see that drive in the kids - most of us were there at one point. But it could have ended very differently and very badly and using these kids who haven't even graduated just because the Department can and the City wants to do everything on the cheap might come back to bite them one day.
In an event, nice job Recruit, and hold onto that drive - it will serve us, the Department and the City well enough when you graduate.
In an event, nice job Recruit, and hold onto that drive - it will serve us, the Department and the City well enough when you graduate.
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posted by SCC at 12:41 AM
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OT: Looking to get some shooting practice done. What's your favorite gun range? Thanks.
Good job!
good job, about time the dept hired someone with BALLS!
Nothing new. Been doing that to the recruits for years...
Although I'm glad it ended well, all it would of taken is one severely hurt and unarmed recruit before a new general order comes out the next day.
Tombstone technology is how HQ rolls.
Just like deploying PPO’s to north Michigan Ave. the day after they graduated from the Academy. They at least have weapons on them, but no training cycles with a FTO, and with no Sergeant or senior Officer directly supervising them. What could possible go wrong with that? Thankfully nothing so far.
You should see what they have them doing on foot patrol!
143A while in academy, good job broseph. Too bad 63 Probly put themselves on line 1 and 2 and screwed this guy outta some nice court time.
hate to have to say this but REALLY??? WTF were you thinking chasing a bad guy with a gun are you out of your fucking mind??? what would've happened ( thank god it didn't) if that P.O.S. would've turned around and shot you, the city wouldn't give a rats ass !! oh and since you did that, look for the mayor to say ..... see !! we don't need to arm anyone , especially the police , we'll get them to work without weapons.... can you imagine???... Think next time recruit. you don't have a life to give to this rat hole of a city because the city just doesn't give a dam!!!
Sometimes... The line between brave and foolhardy is not only a thin one, but blurred. Especially when circumstances that precipitated the brave/foolhardy act are beyond the actor's control.
We are glad that we aren't mourning the loss of one of our young'uns.
Of course you know that Rahm and McPissPoorExample can't wait to lie, speechify, false cry and wipe false tears for bright TV lights at a Policeman's funeral...
It gives them the opportunity to pretend that they care.
...Good Job Recruit.
God almighty covered you and St. Michael had your six...
A little advice...
Never do that "naked" stuff again, kid!
Rahm, McIdiot and the Department hierarchy ought to be ashamed of themselves for exploitiing these youngsters and purposely putting them in a position to get hurt...
If this were one of Rahm's or McCarty's kids, they'd be sceaming bloody murder if this situation turned tragically sour.
You see... To people like them, everyone else's child is expendible for the furtherance of a political agenda.
We're sure Rahm and McCarthy would be quite unhappy to hear the same thinly veiled "Fuck you and your son/daughter... They knew it was dangerous when they signed up" that they give the regular, everyday people with children in uniform and in harm's way in this Potemkin Village built on a cemetery hewn out of a swamp called Chicago.
Don't you all pay any attention to the ghastly grinners percolating out of the ground that Rahm and McCarthy try desperately to ignore.
Good Job Kid!!
That said...a hearty fuck you to Lodding and whomeever down at the Academy for putting all the recruits in harm's way so Rahm can save a buck catering to the black community
Bud Billikin Day is an event that has run it's course.
Nice job, recruit!!
Now...WTF WERE YOU THINKING?!? Pay attention in class. What you did is called "Tombstone Courage". There are very few instances where you should try and make a dangerous apprehension unarmed and unaided, and a shitbird with pistol at Bud is one of them. Was a police officer hurt? Injured? No? Then screw this City and live to see another day, Son.
You were completely unprotected out there...no gun, most likely no radio, on probation, an at-will employee. Do you think the City would hold your job for you if you got injured and couldn't come back to work? You do? News flash...they would send you on your way with "thanks, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out".
I hope your HRI, sergeant and lieutenant ream your ass when you get back to the Academy on Monday morning. Be smart. There will be plenty of guys with guns out there. Chase as many of them as you can when you're armed yourself.
With all that being said, you've got the raw material to be an excellent copper. It will be nice to have you on the street soon. STAY SAFE, will you???
No gun chasing a gun, Im sorry but that is way over the top, stupid, not a good idea. What if the offender turned around and shot at the recruit? What if what if and another what if. Thank you recruit for doing the right thing but think for your safety first.
First to the recruit - Great job - nothing more to be said. You took a big chance and as was eloquently said by someone earlier on the blog -
God almighty covered you and St. Michael had your six...
The sickening part of the Parade was to see the pandering politicians. WGN had a clip of Durbin and Quinn as well as Rahm.
Vote them out, before we get "Detroited".
They obviously have "balls" bigger then the Liberty Bell.
Fortunately, nothing happened.
BUT what If it did? OOPS sorry maybe have to " rethink" this
Whoever's idea this was should have their ass kicked
Having people ride herd on a bunch of animals
OT: Looking to get some shooting practice done. What's your favorite gun range? Thanks.
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I found the range on 79th street a block west of Ryan is great. But it is only open in the evening but all week. This range is pretty cheap compared to the one at 79th, and Loomis. But ammo is cheap.
what is FLOP doing? They collect dues from these kids. FLOP didnt know recruits were working the parade?
Just one?
He'll learn that his courage is wasted as 03:16:00 AM observed.
WTF?! Putting these recruits out there without guns??!!
So who put in a grievance for them?
are you really worried that co-workers are unarmed?
Of course if one of them are killed we will let them have a badge then and then deny them death benefits.
Gun range: The academy. Saturdays from 0800-1500. Free
We as the Upper Management of CPD must do anything and I mean anything to make us look good. If that means putting unarmed recruits out there so be it. We have to look good or else.
Recruit did the right thing, he wasn't alone he had a 2nd Dist tact guy with him. In hindsight was it the smartest thing to do, no, but ill work with that kid anyday.
The really pathetic thing was the powers that be having only the 2nd Dist tact team and some Gang teams as roving back up. There were multiple large groups of honor students looking to start trouble. Most of the time it was 1 car to deal with them. Not sure who the two females were on 207 but did a great job. They engaged these little idiots and told them what time it was, nice to see some proactive instead of reactive workers.
Glad the recruit is ok. On another note, a mob of rats decided to skip the parade and went around punching people at Oak Street Beach.
Great work PPO. You are already 10 times the POLICE Jody was.
Thank God it turned out OK.
Give it some time, the liberals will have all of you doing patrols UNARMED.
Anonymous said...
OT: Looking to get some shooting practice done. What's your favorite gun range? Thanks.
8/11/2013 12:49:00 AM
The South and West sides of Chicago.
But it usually crowded.
if that recruit got hurt or killed=$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
The Recruit did a great job, but what if he had been shot? Would the City carry him as IOD? What if he had been killed, would the City have given the full benefits to his survivors? Some of can still remember the struggles that families of Sworn officers have endured to get Line of Duty benefits for loved ones. While the survivors of bosses who died in bed because they were overweight and smoked too much received full benefits and a funeral with full honors. (Remember Thomas?)
How many ANOVs were written for openly smoking weed? Any on views this year for sex on car hoods?
At same time around North Ave beach groups of feral youth were pushing pedestrians on the bike bath saying "This is for Trayvon!"
I was there...When a Sgt said "make sure the recruit goes in box 1" the smug tac prick replied "hard to go in box 1 when you don't have a star number! 61-Eddie going in with one!" It was UNREAL!!
When is the department going to make a common sense move and send these worthless show up after the fact tac teams back to the watch? Not sure if its the same everywhere, but where I'm from, they are never around when called, pick and choose which jobs to take, even when in a rap, come in late, leave early, etc etc...but when there's a good arrest made by the watch they grace us with their presence and are commonly observed taking handcuffed offenders and stealing the arrests or strong arming the beat guy!
Do us all a favor if you're not going help out... Stay down on your pissers and drinkers and let the police be the police
Was Dick Mel there with his expired plates?
Similar to the CSOs in the suburbs driving around in marked squad cars which criminals make no distinction between them and real cops.
That is one ballsy PPO. Glad he was not injured. Don't criticize, although chasing a man with a gun, without a gun, is dangerous. I would bet though, that many of us have just reacted in the moment to the adrenaline rush at one time or another. We learn. I do agree though, that putting PPO's out on the street, without weapons, with no regard for their safety, especially for this parade was really, really plain f'in stupid.
The Academy didn't decide to put brown shirt recruits out at these details. They have no say.
Phat Phil started ordering it with Daley's blessing. Very bad idea that amazingly hasn't got one killed yet.
Use them as soon as they're in blues and armed, not before.
Just like deploying PPO’s to north Michigan Ave. the day after they graduated from the Academy. They at least have weapons on them, but no training cycles with a FTO, and with no Sergeant or senior Officer directly supervising them. What could possible go wrong with that? Thankfully nothing so far
Not sure about that, usually finished 3 cycles
No story here. They have been doing that for at least the last 10 years, long before Rahm and McCarthy. Kid said the fools were yelling at them "you ain't the police" when he was out there while in the academy.
to the recruit great job, iam glad your safe. to idiot bosses out there and there are a lot why didnt you have the recruits 1 by 1 assigned to a po with a gun it would had made sense and a lot safer. it looks like the 11th ward is running the cpd again.
I know the Recruit who was a part of this and he was not by himself by any means. He had other Officers with him, and wasn't even the guy to tackle and take the offender down. Was he a part, yes, but not by himself. Did anyone else hear about the arrest by two other recruits on 47th? They tackled and got someone else down there too who was apart of the group mayhem.
You think that's bad? The dept has the recruits working the next 13 days off in a row with no days off. They want them to work their "open house" events at the Academy on Saturday's, and they are detailed to the Air & Water show on Sunday. They only get time for time, and its not even OT, it's just comp because they are "probationary". Through the month of August, the recruits will only have 3 days off. Pretty ridiculous.
any gun pinches at the southside Irish parade? just sayin'
Was there and heard that whole foot chase. Kinda nutty. Good job kid!! Too bad you can't go box one since you still don't have a star number. But it makes for a great tale in class on Monday!!!
The Southside Irish Parade pays a portion for security. How much is Bud paying?...I thought so.
hate to have to say this but REALLY??? WTF were you thinking chasing a bad guy with a gun are you out of your fucking mind??? what would've happened ( thank god it didn't) if that P.O.S. would've turned around and shot you, the city wouldn't give a rats ass !! oh and since you did that, look for the mayor to say ..... see !! we don't need to arm anyone , especially the police , we'll get them to work without weapons.... can you imagine???... Think next time recruit. you don't have a life to give to this rat hole of a city because the city just doesn't give a dam!!!
8/11/2013 03:02:00 AM
Take your piss-poor attitude and disappear. Thankfully these recruits will be replacing ass-clowns like you. If things are so bad - leave already! Nobody needs your sour "world-weary" attitude.
From it's birth this City and Department couldn't care less about your safety. You are expendable. Once you come to terms with this fact you'll act accordingly.
Good job PPO!!!
Nice job, recruit. Everyone will monday morning quarterback no matter what you do so don't let it get to you. Finish your time at the academy and be safe.
Great Job Office! Thank God you were not harmed.
Wheres the story in the fly by media? If it had been the Irish Italian Polish or any other European American parade in would be all over the "news".
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I think our Pension problems are over because Rahm will certainly use this windfall to fund our pension deficit. Or more Ceasefire?!?!?
hate to have to say this but REALLY??? WTF were you thinking chasing a bad guy with a gun are you out of your fucking mind???
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Man, these recruits just can't win with you seasoned salty dogs, can they? If this story had played out the way you think it should have, the posts would have been filled with nothing but "what's up with these pussy college kids they're hiring these days--doing nothing as a man with a gun just runs right past them??" The kid did what he was trained to do....get the bad guy. Did he have to? No. I for one am damn glad that the new generation of coppers are eager and willing to do stuff like this recruit did, and not let cynicism and a "fuck you Chicago!" attitude stop them from being the police. I can only hope the rest of this recruits classmates show those kind of instincts. Lord knows you dogs will suck it out of them in good time once they hit the districts.
If the C.O. Of the Training Div. has not put in this recruit for a Dept. Commendation, he should be demoted. However, political correctness and local politics would make it hard for the Rahmbo Administration to admit that crime does occur at the 'Family Celebration' and 'Back to School Event.' Smell any medical marujuana?
I'd like to see him on Michigan avenue - but he'll probably end up as Al Sharpton's bodyguard.
This kid will be a tactical hero in no time soon. Good job kid.
Anyone see the story about CPS basically mandating that non union employees attend the Bud Biliken?
What kind of shit is that?
OT , only 26 applied for retiree free health insurance , better apply before rahm takes it away in new contract .
it was an add on not guarenteed
6 thousand mostly white catholic participants on a march from 8300 South shore drive to Merrillville Indiana on the same day, passing through 004 handled by 2 Sgts and about 10 officers tops with no incident yet Billiken gets untold numbers of people. Just shows who has the clout in this city. Where is the outrage where are all the catholic Bishops protesting, where is Pflager? "oh he is at Bud Billiken"
Aw, we all know the dept. sees the recruits as LSD: Labor saving devices. Use 'em and abuse 'em all in the name of " training and experience." The recruits need to learn early on that the city does not have your back and will hang you out to dry/throw ya under the bus in a heartbeat.Sad but true.
Awesome job youngster! You got some balls!
He forgot his basic recruit 101 training. The only hero is a sandwich.
Bud Billiken parade, LOL.
Off the topic Chief Mario Ricco of Hardwood Hts. P. D. Pass away today. My prayers go out to him and his family. Mario was a Friend and gentlmen.
Zero common sense, tons of heart. THIS IS WHY A GOOD FTO IS VITAL- he provides direction!!!
Take your piss-poor attitude and disappear. Thankfully these recruits will be replacing ass-clowns like you. If things are so bad - leave already! Nobody needs your sour "world-weary" attitude.
8/11/2013 11:01:00 AM
To you and all the people complaining about the guy who said the ppo was nuts to chase this offender, ARE YOU ALL INSANE?
The uniform does not confer a bullet-proof bubble on us. This kid has NO WEAPON and he chases down a bad guy with a gun. If he was shot dead by the offender, you'd all be on here bitching about the Department putting unarmed not-quite-police out there in the line of fire and oh, look, one of them got killed. Thank God this kid is lucky to be alive to tell the story, but he NEVER should have been put in the position of chasing down an armed offender to start with.
Allow me to remind everyone that a line of duty death gets your family two things, a basket of flowers from the City and a grave to visit; THAT'S IT. If your services get donated they won't have those fees, but if your funeral isn't at one of the regular spots, it will be billed to your family. Your grave, your headstone and all the costs associated with your burial and grave will be billed to your family- YES that's right, buying the grave, open the grave, the cost of the vault, any upgrade to the casket, closing the grave and the cost of the headstone will be billed to your family. The City pays for NOTHING. Your family will receive your salary for one year from the date of your death to the same date the following year. Once a month the check is delivered via US mail, and they have to sign for the last one acknowledging that they are aware it is their last paycheck from the City. Any days worked between paydays, along with any unused Vdays, Pdays etc, and any time on the books is taxed and a check cut to them shortly after you are buried. No duty availability or uniform pay, even if it was coming, your dead and they don't get it, it's just your base salary. They are offered an opportunity to buy the health insurance for the rest of the year. Your death insurance, the one they take out of each paycheck is taxed Federally before they get it so it's not the full amount your expecting, it's about $12-1500under the benefit amount since the Feds want their end up front. So far, Illinois does not tax your death benefit, but who knows how long that will last. The City incurs NO cost associated with your death, just one nylon City flag and the loss of manpower hours and fuel to attend your going away party. I recommend your family DO allow the honors funeral (YES THEY HAVE A CHOICE), it is something you earned and something you died for, BUT!! They can deny anyone to speak. That's right, tell your family NOW that you don't want the mayor or the superintendent speaking at YOUR funeral. They can choose who to eulogize you, who to give remarks and who to memorialize you, and they have the right of the same to say no. They in no way can deny the honors funeral or associated theatrics, nor will they, mostly because the won't find out they are not ALLOWED to speak (give their remarks) until the day before the funeral. Your family will be devastated and in shock, don't make it a decision for them, make it known now. They will be entitled to both State and Federal duty death benefits, but those are received on an adjustable basis based on your personal situation. Let's hope it doesn't come to this, but chasing a man with a gun while you are unarmed is not only foolish, it's dangerous to you and your family. We all have chosen this field and know that each day we may face someone who will kill us. We take that risk, not willingly but acceptingly. It's part of the fun, right? Well, it's also a reality, and bear in mind the loss and suffering of those you love and who love you that will be left behind. Do your job to the best of your ability, screw the administration, the city management and those who have chose to believe in, abide by and foster their skewed agendas. The City suffers no loss upon your death, but your family and friends do-- so be the police, but be smart. (Check if you want, but I know what I'm talking about). Here is a list who to call to verify.
-Department Special Activities Unit
-Department Finance Division(Payroll)
-Department Personal Division (Human Resources)
-City Benefits Management
-Pension Board
-City Comptrollers Office (Department of finance)
Anonymous said...
If the C.O. Of the Training Div. has not put in this recruit for a Dept. Commendation, he should be demoted. However, political correctness and local politics would make it hard for the Rahmbo Administration to admit that crime does occur at the 'Family Celebration' and 'Back to School Event.' Smell any medical marujuana?
8/11/2013 12:59:00 PM
Absolutely.
Anonymous said...
OT: Looking to get some shooting practice done. What's your favorite gun range? Thanks.
8/11/2013 12:49:00 AM
2452 W Belmont Ave, in the basement.
Anonymous said
At same time around North Ave beach groups of feral youth were pushing pedestrians on the bike bath saying "This is for Trayvon!"
8/11/2013 08:37:00 AM
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Hmmmmmm... I don't like hearing this at all.
I would have answered them, "that's funny, so is this."
....bang, bang, - and emptied my gun.
Great job PPO!
Similar to the CSOs in the suburbs driving around in marked squad cars which criminals make no distinction between them and real cops.
8/11/2013 09:06:00 AM
So so true. What are administrators thinking?
The boys from FOP are in Cinncinati for the National Confrence. I hope somebody packed Lil Mikey's meds. We don't need another scandal. Oh and make sure he takes them.
Anonymous said...
hate to have to say this but REALLY??? WTF were you thinking chasing a bad guy with a gun are you out of your fucking mind???
Then give them a gun. Or else know that cops should chase criminals. Pretty easy math equation.
Hey Tac Idiot!! The PPO doesn't have to have a star number to go in box 1 you moron. Maybe you should go back to the academy and train on automated arrest. I'm sure your the same moron that keeps using the copied complaints with Aurelia Puchinski's name as the Clerk.
Hey guy good job but think twice. I caught a robbery offender when I was a recruit in Academy goin to meet my then girlfriend for lunch. Got a Honorable Mention next day at Homeroom-big fuckin deal though I thought it was at time-and then reamed by HRI that I ain't the POLICE yet. Long story short-girlfriend thought I was great, married her and had many kids, retired after 30 yrs OTJ and she divorced and took most of my Deffered Comp and half my pension. Damn if only I dint meet the bitch foo lunch. Never a hero. Some way will come back to haunt you. Live n Learn son. None of us heroes we just take care of each other OTJ.
but if something did wrong this fucked up city/mayor would say he wasn't an officer and try to screw his survivors out of his death benefits.....be safe out there kids
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Anonymous said...
I know the Recruit who was a part of this and he was not by himself by any means. He had other Officers with him, and wasn't even the guy to tackle and take the offender down. Was he a part, yes, but not by himself. Did anyone else hear about the arrest by two other recruits on 47th? They tackled and got someone else down there too who was apart of the group mayhem.
You think that's bad? The dept has the recruits working the next 13 days off in a row with no days off. They want them to work their "open house" events at the Academy on Saturday's, and they are detailed to the Air & Water show on Sunday. They only get time for time, and its not even OT, it's just comp because they are "probationary". Through the month of August, the recruits will only have 3 days off. Pretty ridiculous.
8/11/2013 10:14:00 AM
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Sound the same as the 010th Dist Tact team. They work weeks on end with no days of either!!
The C/O s_cks!
9.37am
Phil didn't start it,,,when I was in the Academy in the early 80s, we were in full khakis with our star pinned to our shirt in a polling place, no firearm, night stick, cuffs, etc
REcruits have been getting BF'd like this since O'Brien Street
.....can't win with you seasoned salty dogs, can they? >>> are you out of your mind! An untrained, unarmed Probationary Police Officer assigned to a parade runs after an armed felon who just committed an aggravated battery....thank god it didn't end up going south. To the PPO, great job! Not very bright but good pinch. As for Anonymous 8/11/2013 12:44:00 PM, They aren't covered and haven't even been sworn as peace officers yet and have no powers of arrest. District Dogs? Listen, we are just looking for the kid to make it home safe. Thats the first rule of law enforcement. Just glad it ended the way it did.
Anonymous said...
any gun pinches at the southside Irish parade? just sayin'
8/11/2013 10:39:00 AM
There are only small guns at the Irish parade.
Have court on Tuesday along with all week at 26 street. I will present multiple ASA with scenario and see what they think. Good for the recruit that wasn't a sponge and took a round. But what about the what if.???
What if that fine outstanding kid with a gun shot at this recruit, the city should be embarrassed and our suck hole union should step up for our brothers and sisters in blue for their safety
O/T: Tribune -Speed camera test nets big haul
Small sample shows city drivers have far heavier feet than expected, meaning program could reap hundreds of millions
I think our Pension problems are over because Rahm will certainly use this windfall to fund our pension deficit. Or more Ceasefire?!?!?
Great. Another "win" for Rahm. We're still the bad guys in the minds of the public. But at least the pension is safe...for now, assuming he uses this money to fund it.
Absolutely, unequivocally, unforgivably negligent and CRIMINAL the way these PPOs are being treated. Like you said SCC, screw with their hours etc, but put them at Bilikin amongst those savages, with zero knowledge, zero street training, zero equipment??? One of them really has to DIE before these fucking assholes hold a meeting and say "Maybe we should take the PPOs off the corners in the ghetto/violent zone without them being trained".. Fucking bastards.
OT: saw on the news this evening - protesting in front of Northwestern Memorial Hospital "demanding" that the undocumented (illegal immigrants) and uninsured be given access to organ transplants.
What is wrong with this picture? They aren't even supposed to be here & can't pay for basic health care but in their mind we should also be paying for their organ transplants. Please stop the madness.
Being that unsafe is not a good job. Too many times on this job, cops are rewarded after they use bad tactics, "but it still all works out." They should be corrected, not commended.
Very often the partner takes the brunt of a tombstone crusader. The maniac driver who smashes his partner to bits, while he walks away from a crash unscathed. The hero who charges into a mob when everyone else takes his lumps going in for the rescue.
Chasing down a felon with a gun while you are without one is foolish. Get as much info as you can. Follow at a safe distance. And give a flash to the armed police.
To the kid that chased down the gun-offender at Billiken:
Kid, you got a lot of guts hearts, and balls.
Now grow some brains and hopefully you will make it to the promised land (the pension...if it is still there)
Recruit had balls. Something 90 percent of the department lacks. His actions in this situation were nothing short of heroic. So for everyone to sit here and preach safety I'm sure he thought multiple times about his decision afterwards. Bottom line is this time he came out on top. Good job officer.
Anonymous said...
Hey Tac Idiot!! The PPO doesn't have to have a star number to go in box 1 you moron. Maybe you should go back to the academy and train on automated arrest. I'm sure your the same moron that keeps using the copied complaints with Aurelia Puchinski's name as the Clerk.
8/11/2013 07:21:00 PM
I didn't post this original thread but I do think you're wrong. No need for name calling either. I guess the only way around it would be to use the outside agency box and plug his name in. The only problem is he is technically an employee of the CPD. And if you're gonna rant I would learn the difference between your and you're and the proper way to use either one. Just saying there chief!!!
Anonymous said...
Hey Tac Idiot!! The PPO doesn't have to have a star number to go in box 1 you moron. Maybe you should go back to the academy and train on automated arrest.
I don't know about you,but when I came on in the 80's, we had a star# from day 1....just no star until you earned it.
Just Sayin.........
Do us all a favor if you're not going help out... Stay down on your pissers and drinkers and let the police be the police
Oh my god!! Another cry baby who can't get on a tact team!!!
Sound the same as the 010th Dist Tact team. They work weeks on end with no days of either!!
Sounds terrible. Who forced them to go on the tact team? Last I heard they can't force you to stay if its that bad. Go back on the watch
"Anonymous said...
Hey guy good job but think twice. I caught a robbery offender when I was a recruit in Academy goin to meet my then girlfriend for lunch. Got a Honorable Mention next day at Homeroom-big fuckin deal though I thought it was at time-and then reamed by HRI that I ain't the POLICE yet. Long story short-girlfriend thought I was great, married her and had many kids, retired after 30 yrs OTJ and she divorced and took most of my Deffered Comp and half my pension. Damn if only I dint meet the bitch foo lunch. Never a hero. Some way will come back to haunt you. Live n Learn son. None of us heroes we just take care of each other OTJ.
8/11/2013 07:36:00 PM"
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Sheesh... I thought I was reading "Love Story" and then it suddenly turned in to "The EXORCIST". Yikes!
NC
Didn't the captain from 5 do the same thing just days prior to retirement?
I'm sorry, but that was not a good decision by that recruit. I'm a 'hard charging' tact officer.....love gun arrests!
I had a recent foot chase with a offender who most likely had a gun, I dropped my radio while giving chase and terminated the chase myself because of the safety concern of ' no communication' in case something bad did happen. I had a vest and my gun with multiple magazines of ammunition, and stopped because of my radio, your most important tool.
Not smart recruit and I hope the instructors tell him such.
Anonymous said...
I know the Recruit who was a part of this and he was not by himself by any means. He had other Officers with him, and wasn't even the guy to tackle and take the offender down. Was he a part, yes, but not by himself. Did anyone else hear about the arrest by two other recruits on 47th? They tackled and got someone else down there too who was apart of the group mayhem.
You think that's bad? The dept has the recruits working the next 13 days off in a row with no days off. They want them to work their "open house" events at the Academy on Saturday's, and they are detailed to the Air & Water show on Sunday. They only get time for time, and its not even OT, it's just comp because they are "probationary". Through the month of August, the recruits will only have 3 days off. Pretty ridiculous.
8/11/2013 10:14:00 AM
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Sound the same as the 010th Dist Tact team. They work weeks on end with no days of either!!
The C/O s_cks!
Hey come in now don't lump the 010th dist into this, they've only had one day off. Not even to the 3-4 the recruits are seeing. Maria has morale at an all time high there, just ask her or any of her kiss ass Sgts
Anonymous said...
Hey Tac Idiot!! The PPO doesn't have to have a star number to go in box 1 you moron. Maybe you should go back to the academy and train on automated arrest. I'm sure your the same moron that keeps using the copied complaints with Aurelia Puchinski's name as the Clerk.
8/11/2013 07:21:00 PM
I use Morgan M. Finley for old times sake. Perhaps you might prefer Federal prisoner #96755-024.
No one "special" said...
First to the recruit - Great job - nothing more to be said. You took a big chance and as was eloquently said by someone earlier on the blog -
God almighty covered you and St. Michael had your six...
The sickening part of the Parade was to see the pandering politicians. WGN had a clip of Durbin and Quinn as well as Rahm.
Vote them out, before we get "Detroited".
8/11/2013 05:48:00 AM
I witnessed Durbin using dead children as a backdrop to make some political hay. True. I was there. One of the children was a family member. I wrote Durbin a letter expressing my outrage and the insult felt by my family.
Would you believe I got a fucking form letter back, signed by a machine? That's the best that hack bastard could do. I make certain that no matter what, I vote against that miserable prick Durbin every time. And I remind my extended family come election time. Always.
Anonymous said...
OT: saw on the news this evening - protesting in front of Northwestern Memorial Hospital "demanding" that the undocumented (illegal immigrants) and uninsured be given access to organ transplants.
What is wrong with this picture? They aren't even supposed to be here & can't pay for basic health care but in their mind we should also be paying for their organ transplants. Please stop the madness.
8/11/2013 10:19:00 PM
The impetus of their protest is the doctors don't care if they're here illegally when the family allows their loved ones organs to be harvested to give to someone else. However, when they are in need of an organ transplant the hospital pulls the illegal immigrant card to deny them a spot on the transplant list. If you can harvest an "illegals" organ then you should be able to put them on the transplant list.
Hey guy good job but think twice. I caught a robbery offender when I was a recruit in Academy goin to meet my then girlfriend for lunch. Got a Honorable Mention next day at Homeroom-big fuckin deal though I thought it was at time-and then reamed by HRI that I ain't the POLICE yet. Long story short-girlfriend thought I was great, married her and had many kids, retired after 30 yrs OTJ and she divorced and took most of my Deffered Comp and half my pension. Damn if only I dint meet the bitch foo lunch. Never a hero. Some way will come back to haunt you. Live n Learn son. None of us heroes we just take care of each other OTJ.
8/11/2013 07:36:00 PM
So you'd rather have the half of your pension back than your kids? Not much of a Father's Day celebration at your house is there?
Never be too involved with "the job" to let your family life suffer like this man. You will have a miserable retirement.
Retired now. Many years ago, they had a detail and recruits were needed. They came into the homeroom, asked who had the blue uniforms.
Those that did were detailed for the day, got the star & shield, and carried a gun. Next day, returned the star & shield, back in khaki's.
This made more sense, since we all looked like the police.
Anonymous said...
If the C.O. Of the Training Div. has not put in this recruit for a Dept. Commendation, he should be demoted. However, political correctness and local politics would make it hard for the Rahmbo Administration to admit that crime does occur at the 'Family Celebration' and 'Back to School Event.' Smell any medical marujuana?
8/11/2013 12:59:00 PM
You mean the D.C. of the academy, Howard Lodding aka Howard the coward? He would never do anything for anyone unless he benefited from it. He never says no despite how hard or difficult the task is for his recruits. If there was a honorable given, it would not be given by Howard.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
OT: Looking to get some shooting practice done. What's your favorite gun range? Thanks.
8/11/2013 12:49:00 AM
My 5 acre place in Northern WI away from idiots.
Well done PPO's......your immediate reaction to go get the "bad guy" with a gun is not a question of whether it was the right thing to do.....I'm sure you were the first to realize that you were unarmed but continued the chase anyway. It was the only thing you knew to do.......In the eyes of a few that play the guessing game now that the incident is over.....politely tell them to go fuck themselves. Good job to all CPD involved.
1 in custody.. handgun recovered, all safe. End of story.
Anonymous said...
OT: saw on the news this evening - protesting in front of Northwestern Memorial Hospital "demanding" that the undocumented (illegal immigrants) and uninsured be given access to organ transplants.
What is wrong with this picture? They aren't even supposed to be here & can't pay for basic health care but in their mind we should also be paying for their organ transplants. Please stop the madness.
8/11/2013 10:19:00 PM
The impetus of their protest is the doctors don't care if they're here illegally when the family allows their loved ones organs to be harvested to give to someone else. However, when they are in need of an organ transplant the hospital pulls the illegal immigrant card to deny them a spot on the transplant list. If you can harvest an "illegals" organ then you should be able to put them on the transplant list.
8/12/2013 08:54:00 AM
So the hospital has to go BANKRUPT performing all the FREE organ transplant surgeries, then?
The impetus of their protest is the doctors don't care if they're here illegally when the family allows their loved ones organs to be harvested to give to someone else. However, when they are in need of an organ transplant the hospital pulls the illegal immigrant card to deny them a spot on the transplant list. If you can harvest an "illegals" organ then you should be able to put them on the transplant list.
8/12/2013 08:54:00 AM
Let me expand on that. They are here illegally and die. By your logic, we should let those organs go to waste because they are here illegally and we don't want to offend someone.
You've never had someone close to you on the organ transplant list, have you?
I was there. There are really three officers and the PPO who began the chase: One Tact officer that finally cuffed the perp that dropped the gun during the chase; the PPO, of course, and the two HQ officers that ran from their post on 43rd and Calumet to help box in the running perp, hold him on the ground after tact cuffed him, conducted a protective pat down of perp and secured him in a caged car. Glad all ended well.
Anonymous said...
Similar to the CSOs in the suburbs driving around in marked squad cars which criminals make no distinction between them and real cops.
8/11/2013 09:06:00 AM
Been there before...going door to door at night representing the pd with CIVILIAN CLOTHES on and a radio. I think someone called on me too. A few people wisely didn't open the door. After that I had to tell my boss that it might be a good idea to have something that actually identified me as an employee. The other extreme was me looking too much like the police which ironically the adults were fooled by but the shorties always reminded me I wasn't the police...or asked me if I was an intern. Memories.
They have been using recruits like this for a long time. Wrong... So Wrong!
They are just as meaningful as the rest of us.
They should not be out on any detail until they have what they need to do the job.
The Academy and 35th Street may think it's just a "traffic detail" or "show of force" but they are going to get one of the recruits killed out there because we all know the simplest things can turn to shit in minute.
Anonymous said...
I was there. There are really three officers and the PPO who began the chase: One Tact officer that finally cuffed the perp that dropped the gun during the chase; the PPO, of course, and the two HQ officers that ran from their post on 43rd and Calumet to help box in the running perp, hold him on the ground after tact cuffed him, conducted a protective pat down of perp and secured him in a caged car. Glad all ended well.
8/12/2013 07:01:00 PM
"Perp." Which precinct do you work out off?
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
OT: saw on the news this evening - protesting in front of Northwestern Memorial Hospital "demanding" that the undocumented (illegal immigrants) and uninsured be given access to organ transplants.
What is wrong with this picture? They aren't even supposed to be here & can't pay for basic health care but in their mind we should also be paying for their organ transplants. Please stop the madness.
8/11/2013 10:19:00 PM
The impetus of their protest is the doctors don't care if they're here illegally when the family allows their loved ones organs to be harvested to give to someone else. However, when they are in need of an organ transplant the hospital pulls the illegal immigrant card to deny them a spot on the transplant list. If you can harvest an "illegals" organ then you should be able to put them on the transplant list.
8/12/2013 08:54:00 AM
So the hospital has to go BANKRUPT performing all the FREE organ transplant surgeries, then?
8/12/2013 04:33:00 PM
The hospital doesn't care if they are here illegally when they take an organ out,only when it's time to give them one. So, check status first. HOSP: Are you here illegally? ALIEN: Yes. HOSP: Sorry,we can't harvest your loved ones organ to save another. HOSP: When we find a legal resident Mr.& Mrs. Smith we will give your 16 year old son a transplant. Right now we only have organs from deceased "illegal" aliens. We don't give them transplants,so we don't take their organs. Don't be a goof. Can someone tell us,how much a kidney transplant or any other transplant costs,and if our insurance covers the entire amount?
Let me expand on that. They are here illegally and die. By your logic, we should let those organs go to waste because they are here illegally and we don't want to offend someone.
You've never had someone close to you on the organ transplant list, have you?
8/12/2013 04:47:00 PM
These organs go to waste??? Isn't that the point of the list??? I wasn't aware that a surplus of organs that aren't being used and are being thrown away. According to you the list is just a function of a wasteful bureaucracy. I was always under the impression, that unfortunately people die waiting for these organs, because thy are not available. Carry on straw man.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I was there. There are really three officers and the PPO who began the chase: One Tact officer that finally cuffed the perp that dropped the gun during the chase; the PPO, of course, and the two HQ officers that ran from their post on 43rd and Calumet to help box in the running perp, hold him on the ground after tact cuffed him, conducted a protective pat down of perp and secured him in a caged car. Glad all ended well.
8/12/2013 07:01:00 PM
Thanks for the info. This version of the story sounds a lot more believable.
Now, you. You need to permanently lose the word 'perp'.
We don't use it and we don't like it. We are not television cops or New Yorkers.
They have been using recruits like this for a long time. Wrong... So Wrong!
They are just as meaningful as the rest of us.
They should not be out on any detail until they have what they need to do the job.
The Academy and 35th Street may think it's just a "traffic detail" or "show of force" but they are going to get one of the recruits killed out there because we all know the simplest things can turn to shit in minute.
What are you talking about? No one said it was right, all that was said it has been going on for 10 to 20 years and this is nothing new. So far the department has been fortunate not to have any serious injuries
I worked SEVERAL events while still in the tans. Downtown, west side, south side, you name it.
Every time I asked "what do you want us to do out here?" No one ever had an answer.
Good news is, nothing has changed since then. Still can't find too many people that know what's going on.
We don't use it and we don't like it. We are not television cops or New Yorkers.
8/13/2013 12:53:00 PM
Haven't been in 018 or 019 or 020 lately have you?
Full of "Dennis Farina' Wannabes..
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