Anti-Gun Insanity
- A police officer who dropped off his daughter at her Phoenix elementary school was asked by the school’s principal not to wear his uniform to the school because other parents were concerned that he was carrying a gun, MyFoxPhoenix.com reported.
Scott Urkov is a police officer for the Coolidge Police Department. The department told him not to comment to media inquiries, but immediately after he received the no-uniform request, he posted on Facebook.
"Nothing like your kids school calling and asking if I could not come to pick up my daughter in uniform cause parents were concerned when their kids came home telling them there was a man at school with a gun, “ he posted. “Are you freaking kidding me?"
A cop, in uniform, dropping off his daughter, IN ARIZONA, and certain people are afraid he might be carrying a gun, when in actuality, dozens of people in Arizona are probably dropping off their kids with guns in their purses, on their hips or somewhere in their vehicles.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
63 Comments:
I believe all public school personnel should be subject to random drug testing.
I actually had a similar situation at the old Children's Memorial...my kid was there in the ER for an illness, and I met my wife there while working. When my son had to have a chest X-ray, they told me I couldn't go up with my gun because "it may scare the kids". They said security could lock it up in their office for me. I told them I was on duty and I wasn't locking up my gun anywhere. I ended up tucking it in my waist, under my vest. Kids could care less. It's the stupid lib-tard adults who think they're doing the kids a favor. Not sure if it's still policy at the new hospital though.
Idiocy knows no bounds.
If this nation is to survive the people need to think more and feel less.
It's the liberal fruity nut, poot-butt, squat to pee-ers who have fled their crashed and burning California utopia and are infecting the common sense South-Western and Rocky Mountain states of this republic with their bullshit...
Colorado is waging one hell of a fight against these corrosive, nation-hating, yellow-pinky motherfuckers.
We were taught by teachers. Children now are indoctrinated by "educators". Thank God that American values are still being taught and appreciated in some rural areas of this country. Hope for the future; faint, but hope nonetheless.
this p/c stuff is way out of line.
if a kid points their finger like a gun they get suspended. if a sandwich is eaten in a manner that it looks like a gun they're suspended.
stop the insanity.
land of the free my ass.
Like many other southern and western states that actually have available jobs, Arizona has had a significant influx of people from both coasts. It was not native Arizonians that were worried.
There is all kinds of insanity when it comes to schools. There was the story of a first grade kindergarten halloween party and one of the little boys was dressed in a store bought fire fighters costume. Well this costume has an axe in the belt an the principal called the policeand threw the poor kid out of school for having, not using a weapon. The police tried to make her see sense but to no avail. It got into the local media and the principal was made to look like the fool she was.
The next day the kid was taken to school in a fire engine.
If you ever get a call at a school for any such insanity never take custody of a child.
Always a few panic--prone idiots somewhere.
We have a winner!
Sue your department Officer, 1st Amendment violation.
Time to find a new daycare.
http://now.msn.com/dennys-tells-police-officers-they-cannot-have-guns-inside-restaurant
Same here at Denny's too. WTF is wrong with these people? Depending on department G.O. I would have to tell the principal to pack sand. I could see some dipshit administrator doing that here especially if your living in a 'democratic' area but really?
Children's memorial wouldn't let me in the building with my weapon, while i was in full uniform, going to visit my son after his heart surgery. I asked the security guard if they check people for weapons, he replied "no, we can't be searchin everybody that come thru that door.". Nice... Good thing an armed gunman didn't come in and shoot up the hospital staff, I would have had to throw a bed pan at him.
However, Black Panthers in their uniforms with batons at a polling place are O.K. according to Obama's Department of Justice.
The pussification of Americans is nearly complete. The communists wanted this so that we would be easier to take over and control.
Truly pathetic this episode happened in, of all places, Arizona. The Coolidge, AZ P.D. should have told this principal to go pound sand up his libtard ass.
Libtardism/Bolshevism is a mental illness.
MF
Anonymous said...
I actually had a similar situation at the old Children's Memorial...my kid was there in the ER for an illness, and I met my wife there while working. When my son had to have a chest X-ray, they told me I couldn't go up with my gun because "it may scare the kids". They said security could lock it up in their office for me. I told them I was on duty and I wasn't locking up my gun anywhere. I ended up tucking it in my waist, under my vest. Kids could care less. It's the stupid lib-tard adults who think they're doing the kids a favor. Not sure if it's still policy at the new hospital though.
10/04/2013 12:30:00 AM
I had to go into a locked ward to interview someone. They would not allow the gun. End of interview. I'm not going into a room full of people with no cheese on their crackers without being armed and with backup.
Take it to the bank...
These same people would be the first to call the police when there is an incident, then beef how long it took to respond or how it was handled.
If you disapprove of any type of police presence in/around your school, if some armed, crazed person, God forbid should enter the school, call a lunch mom or have the school librarian read him a book until he surrenders.
Nice back up by his department who told him not to comment to the media....really?
No problem..
when you call 911 on THE worst day of your life I won't show up either or at the very least I'll take my damn time.
I had that happen at my kid's preschool. Also when my wife went into labor at northwestern I was on duty. The nurse told me I had to give my gun to the security guard or leave. I told her I would then have to arrest him for a UUW.
It's happened right here at a local NW side CPS school on more than one occasion. Then again, you have to question the mental stability of some of these guys who show up to pick up their kid wearing shorts a T shirt and .45 that they go out of their way to expose! But there were two that I know of in uniform either coming from or going to work who were told to cover up by the Principal.
Don't even get me started on the procession of unmarked's picking up kids!
I was monitoring Clissold School dismissal (Morgan Park) and the same thing happened; a teacher approached me complaining that a brother CPD officer, off duty and in uniform was dropping off and picking up his kids wearing a pistol. I'm afraid to think of what's being taught in class.
Never over estimate the intelligence of the American people!
MS
Arizona is starting to sound like Colorado what's moving out west "Libtards" very strange going's on in these two states.
The stink of Kalifornicas is all over this.
I hate liberals
Wow cares what they want. What are they going to do about.
Sounds like California or East Coast transplants bringing their disease to Arizona . They want to run from the high tax, high regulation utopian hellholes ,then arrive to spread that cancer because they are far too blind to to the reality that they, the proggies , are the pronlem, the disease, the pandemic.
1840 frequently refused calls for service at old Children's Memorial over the air because they wouldn't let her enter the hospital with her weapon.
If you ever get a call at a school for any such insanity never take custody of a child....
I agree....we still have that discretion. You should see bullshit when you see it. As an example, some softballs from 017 arrested some 10year old kid for a "robbery", this kid had never been arrested before, but because these goofs had to get their numbers up , well then you know the rest.
Some of these teachers are real knuckleheads.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Blogger Dorsai said...
Always a few panic--prone idiots somewhere.
10/04/2013 02:35:00 AM
I am afraid you are underestimating the state of education in this country. The liberal view is prevalent in education from primary grades to the university. Even the text books are written to push the liberal, "progressive" view of the world on our children. The teachers and administrators give up on problem kids way too soon sending them to " alternative schools" where the border line kids can mingle with the hard core. Yes, my friends, it is all " for the children". Just after 9-11 principles were telling staff that they could not wear American flags on their garments because it was offense to some. Don't get me started on pay and benefits and my latest tax bill coupled along with underperforming schools and students.
Yes, beyond the point of absurdity. Stupid Libs brainwashing the young kids into thinking Police with a gun are the same as a Criminal with a gun. Parents, REMOVE your children from these type of brainwashing Academies, and Home School them if necessary.
To 12:16 PM.
They did not arrest that 10-year-old for a robbery. He was a 10-year-old who some older kids took advantage of. He was taken into protective custody and treated as a witness. never an offender...so relax tough guy. Please before you post know your facts
If you go somewhere like childrens memorial to see your sick child or your newly born child. With the permission of the dss of course. Then how about saying who the fuck is gonna stop me from entering with my weapon. Security? Nurses?
Ditto. That was insane, stupid, and inscrutable.
their brains are rotten!
I was never afraid of "Officer Friendly" during my elementary school days. See my parents taught me that the police were good guys who would protect me.
What are these stupid parents teaching their children nowadays?
I knew the police were armed to do battle with the bad guys.
This principal and administrators are soft in the head.
As a teacher, I'd feel safer with a student's parent armed and in law enforcement. What hysterical idiots.
The other pediatric hospital in town (Shriners) allows LEOs to carry in uniform or out.
Progressives, formerly known as communists, are dangerous because they're so stupid. Protect your children from them. They are there to brainwash your children with their socialist drivel.
Public schools are ran by a bunch of pussies.
It really is simple as that. They are so sissified they have the vapors if a kid even brings a GI Joe 3 inch tall figure that sports a gun. Or even draw a stick man with a gun on a piece of paper.
This is a far cry of the days when I, back in high school (1970), traded a H&R .22 revolver for a .25 FN Browning semi-automatic with the shop instructor in the parking lot of the high school. Yes a school teacher!
Now days all the school teachers seem to do is have sex with students (and get caught.)
Sheeeee-it. When I was a kid, we had classmate's dads who were police come in for show & tell style career day - and this was catholic grade school, mid-70's! Those guys and the kids who had fireman dads were considered the luckiest and the coolest. Do you think they even considered asking them not to bring their weapon? Fuck no! Shit, MY old man had his weapon on him at the second grade christmas play for christ's sakes, he came straight from work.
The fuck is wrong with people? Shit.
I had a 8-10 yoa boy who said his teacher kicked him when she walked down his school room aisle. The mother was at the school raising holy hell. Wanted a police report and said she was going to sue CPS and teacher. I interviewed the teacher in a small room next to the office. Then did the same with the "victim" and came out of the room with him and told the mother that she was lucky for not being arrested for trying to file a false police report. She grabbed the little guy by the arm like a stuffed rag doll and stormed out of the office while cursing up a storm. The whole office staff stood up and gave me a standing ovation while the principal gave me a hug. True story. Felt great for the rest of the day. No "event" #, no report; 19 Paul says it all. Retired and loving it! Stay safe.
I had to go into a locked ward to interview someone. They would not allow the gun. End of interview. I'm not going into a room full of people with no cheese on their crackers without being armed and with backup.
10/04/2013 08:52:00 AM
A locked ward? Mental ward? Why would you want to bring your firearm into such a place. You probably would end up shooting someone or being disarmed.And, I believe state law prohibits weapons in mental wards. If this truly was a mental ward, then maybe you should have stayed for an evaluation.
A CPS school in 16 asked a parent, CPD officer in uniform and armed, to go home and change before a parent/teacher conference. Apparently it gives the elusion that an arrest or complaint is being made.
Wasn't there an incident similar to this in Chicago a while back? Some mental health facility called the police because one of the patients on the floor said he saw another patient with a gun. The hospital admin wanted the police, so as to not distress the patients, leave their weapons behind. To disarm to confront a possibly armed subject?
Fortunately the responding white shirt told her to stuff it.
Anyone else recall?
If so, the crazies are everywhere...
"If you ever get a call at a school for any such insanity never take custody of a child....
I agree....we still have that discretion. You should see bullshit when you see it. "
Know your job. Know what you can do and what you can't. Don't allow yourself to be bullied by "I know...." or someone who finds something distressing to them but is not illegal.
Simple solution, city hall loves to make up new ordinances. Draft an or ordinance that prohibits any business with a city license, hospital, school, or private residence from requiring any on duty police officer from disarming before coming on their property. If you want to live, own a business, run a hospital in the city of Chicago and expect police service, THE GUN IS PART OF THE PACKAGE!!!! The only place I will disarm is in a court room where there is a judicial order prohibiting weapons in the courtroom, there at least I know no one is armed and the planning field is level. Everyone else is a 19P.
Security guard at NW tried the same bs with me when going to see my mom in ICU. Told him to pretend he didn't see it and I wouldn't run his name for outstanding warrants. Mom was so happy to see me in full uniform.
Must be grads of UoA
This is the stupid shit that happens when the libtards in Kalifornicate move out to Red states and then start with their 'lets improve it' crap; Passing the same moronic laws and instituting leftist polices that ruined CA in the first fucking place!
Fucking liberals should be declared enemies of the state, rounded up, neutered, and imprisoned for life on a chain gang.
If you go somewhere like childrens memorial to see your sick child or your newly born child. With the permission of the dss of course. Then how about saying who the fuck is gonna stop me from entering with my weapon. Security? Nurses?
10/04/2013 03:18:00 PM
I always loved guys like you: "with the permission of the dss". Yeah right, put it on right your Sgts shoulders. Can I do something I am not supposed to do? Can I ride across town and put us both in the trick bag?
How about you ask for time due and take responsibility yourself? You're the same guy that asks for time on the end without a slip in your hand. Grow up.
Then these idiot teachers expect that Police will be there when the shit hits the fan!
How Bout NOT!
Handle your own problems there teacher and principals!
Anonymous said...
I had to go into a locked ward to interview someone. They would not allow the gun. End of interview. I'm not going into a room full of people with no cheese on their crackers without being armed and with backup.
10/04/2013 08:52:00 AM
A locked ward? Mental ward? Why would you want to bring your firearm into such a place. You probably would end up shooting someone or being disarmed.And, I believe state law prohibits weapons in mental wards. If this truly was a mental ward, then maybe you should have stayed for an evaluation.
10/04/2013 10:43:00 PM
maybe you missed this...
"without being armed and with backup."
Hospital don't have gun safes for my convenience. I let some sharp guy like you handle it.
Anonymous said...
I had to go into a locked ward to interview someone. They would not allow the gun. End of interview. I'm not going into a room full of people with no cheese on their crackers without being armed and with backup.
10/04/2013 08:52:00 AM
A locked ward? Mental ward? Why would you want to bring your firearm into such a place. You probably would end up shooting someone or being disarmed.And, I believe state law prohibits weapons in mental wards. If this truly was a mental ward, then maybe you should have stayed for an evaluation.
10/04/2013 10:43:00 PM
EXACTLY!!! When's the last time you took a gun into lockup? Duh.
DO NOT confuse the issue in Arizona. Arizona is a VERY gun friendly state. It is also a very anti government state. Whether you like it or not, as cop you represent the government. It is the classic conservative clash....cops who consider themselves conservatives, belong to unions, believe in limited government but are agents of the government themselves. These are not "libtards" these are hard core rightwingers who resent your presence in their lives you may agree with them, but they are not your allies.
Anonymous said...
If you go somewhere like childrens memorial to see your sick child or your newly born child. With the permission of the dss of course. Then how about saying who the fuck is gonna stop me from entering with my weapon. Security? Nurses?
10/04/2013 03:18:00 PM
I always loved guys like you: "with the permission of the dss". Yeah right, put it on right your Sgts shoulders. Can I do something I am not supposed to do? Can I ride across town and put us both in the trick bag?
How about you ask for time due and take responsibility yourself? You're the same guy that asks for time on the end without a slip in your hand. Grow up
How about you grow a pair Sgt. Oh my God your gonna say because I'm the police? Oh my God, your gonna go across town? Oh my God,you wanna leave early without a slip?
Trick bag? Who even says that anymore you pussy.
Anonymous said...
DO NOT confuse the issue in Arizona. Arizona is a VERY gun friendly state. It is also a very anti government state. Whether you like it or not, as cop you represent the government. It is the classic conservative clash....cops who consider themselves conservatives, belong to unions, believe in limited government but are agents of the government themselves. These are not "libtards" these are hard core rightwingers who resent your presence in their lives you may agree with them, but they are not your allies.
10/05/2013 07:58:00 PM
You are absolutely right. Some guys proclaim they're going to move to Idaho,Utah,or Montana upon retirement. That's fine,but don't let people know you're retired police,some of those people don't care for law enforcement.
If i'm the police dispatcher and I get a call for urgent assistance from Nurse Ratchet. My response will go something like this. Yes I see that sound terrible, well I'm going to send the first available unarmed police officer to your location to straighten things out!!
The NFL just announced that police officers who are off duty will not be allowed to carry their firearms into a stadium. They claim this will enhance the game day experience as fans are uncomfortable with seeing people with firearms. I wonder how this will work out since most stadiums are licensed public places and police officers are sworn personnel?
I'm not at all surprised. Rush Medical Center AND Lurie, the dump for children, tried to disarm me. Fuck them. I am in uniform and on duty. They are in my city...my state. I can carry my gun there. I was actually escorted out of Rush because I wouldn't comply with their little policy. What bullshit!
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