No Bid Spots?
An interesting "taken to the extreme scenario" regarding sergeants:
- Ok SCC, heard that the city and PBPA are going to take away all the district bid sgts. and rebid citywide, all districts, and those Sgt.s will be new district bid holders. Looks like JA from PBPA and Rahm are looking to stick it to the sgts for shooting down that bs contract.
This should completely throw all districts up for grabs. There is no wording or language to do this but this is based on perceived interpretations by JA and Cmdr Oneil MSLA. By the way they are personal friends outside of the job so I can see this possibly happening. All incumbent district bid sgts. will have to rebid, wow, will this happen after watch bids? Because watch bids have to be kept after successfully bidding for them.
So in theory can you have 15 sgts. bid into a district successfully and all them having 2nd watch bids from their respective districts from whence they came. I can see it now, 2nd watch in 001 with 15 sgts. This could be a real circus act to watch.
If they can do it with PBPA can they do it with FOP? Can they rewrite district staffing levels then have a citywide bid thereby reducing the manpower in so called slower districts and thus filling westside and south side districts with officers who would normally be in north side districts due to their prior bidding and or assignments? Can the department say they only need 250 officers in 019 not the 300 they have now and reassign the 50 to other districts? What if 020,024,017,016,019,018,001, have their staffing levels reassessedandd lowered, where would the surplus officers go? A citywide rebid could possibly achieve this. I would not put this past Cmdr DO to write up such a policy, after all he back doored the Lt.s to get a Cmdr star, what will he do for a higher spot?
This is the trouble with lawyers and loopholes. Always the attempts to reinterpret language to the benefit of some and detriment of others. Anyone want to chime in on the possibility of something like this being used against the sergeants? Or against Officers, too?
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posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
111 Comments:
IF Jim Ade is participating in this, it really is time for the membership to throw his ass out.
DOA IMO
Trust to the lawyers. They will not fail you.
There are a few different ways to interpret this and I will only try to present two of the most obvious ones.
First, it's true that in the new contract, district bid spots will be up for grabs. Many districts only have a few bid sergeants and this will change with the new contract. There will be no more intra-district bidding for open spots. This doesn't place senior sergeants who did not bid to the district in any danger of being transferred because transfers will be done by reverse seniority. On the other hand, there will most likely be some very junior sergeants who might lose the spot they shouldn't have had in the first place. Having said that, if they were given the district spot they wanted out of the academy, they will probably be given a unit spot rather than a bad district.
The second way to explain the new system is to simply say that it's all Barack Hussein Obama's fault. Libtard's are out to get us all and we must stick together and get rid of obama-care before we can do anything about the new bidding system.
Which explanation makes more sense to you?
When a sergeant bids, he will bid for the district and watch that is open for bid. For example, the opening will be for a 3rd Watch Sergeant in the 014th District. It wouldn't matter where the bidder was previously assigned, his new assignment will be 3rd Watch in the 014th District. At the end of the year, he will bid for his watch on the following year just like everybody else.
Of course, it could be that the Liberals will sneak into his bedroom in the middle of the night and turn him into a communist, but that's probably unlikely.....or is it???
new sgt says: It should make for interesting times in the future. Sgt's are totally different than PO's. If a PO is sent to a district then they are there and safe indefinatly. Sgts get sent to a district, they can then get moved if not a bid to district. The new contract is 12 bid spots per district for Sgt's. From what I understand not alot of Sgts are bids to district even if they have been there for years. I dot think they will re-bid whole city. But there will be movement.
Really.... emails were sent to all sgts by other sgts. months ago complaining about this and every sgt. ignored it until now, after a contract was approved.?
Nothing new here!
this already happened at B & A 3 yrs ago......FOP allowed it. reduction in man power and 13 Dets were sent to either Area 1, 2, or 4.
FOP allowed City and MLAS do this even though it violated the contract.
all bid spots too.
grievence lost of course!
None of this is true.
Fact, no more intra district bids, bids will be city wide and not by watch. Sgts. who have district bids will stay unless they choose to move.
The number is 12 for ea. district
Unfortunately it was like pulling teeth to get this info. Nothing was up front re. anything that was agreed upon. It was always vague when posted. There were warnings about this brought to sgts. who ignored it.
Whoever posted this don't know what they are talking about. Watch bids and district bids are two separate things. If you bid to a new unit, you give up your watch bid. Thus, the Department can assign you to whatever watch they choose. There is nothing shady going on here. The sgts contract calls for district bid sergeants, so the city has to open up the spots.
If you have under 8 years as a sergeant prepare to empty your locker out and move to another less desirable unit. A lot of tac sergeants are screwed!
yawwwnnn, false. end.of.story. If you believe it any further then I have a bridge to sell you.
I realize that the original poster listed mostly north side districts as examples, but there's a shortage of patrolman and sergeants up north as well. I'm not going to say that the city hasn't considered this, but I'll believe it when I see it. They'd piss the remaining 2% of the department that still enjoys this job.
Just a few years ago 019 and 023 had close to 300 officers, EACH. Then they combined and G. McLush held some Town Hall meetings to sell this pile of shit to residents. All affected aldermen where there.
They PROMISED that the manpower levels would not go down, they would stay the same. Now it is appearing that the manpower levels are headed down to half of what they were when the two districts combined.
In 2000 019 itself had a strength report (remember the Period Strength Report?) of almost 350 officers, including supervisors. Not including civilians in the lockup and on the desk.
And the sheep living in 019 are not screaming bloody murder at the prospect of losing fully HALF of their police officers while taxes go up up up.
And people will continue to vote for this jerk off.
Not sure who the JA hater is that wrote this, but you are an absolute moron if you believe what"you heard". My guess is you're one of the ones that misinterpreted the arbitrator's ruling and thought we lost COLA and age 50 to retire as well. That or an agitator who likes to throw shit out there to get everyone riled up. And I'll sign my name so you know who thinks your a moron in case you'd like to discuss. The contract affords Sgts for the first time the same bidding process that officers have had and there are going to be 12 bid spots in every district some of which are already filled. When promoted you are sent to a district out of the academy but you haven't bid there so without this provision what the city could do in theory is tell a Sgt that hasn't bid in, and an intraunit watch bid is not a bid in, that they're reassigned to X district and there's no protection. Don't believe everything you hear, why don't you ask next time instead of spewing nonsense anonymously?
Bill O'Reilly
If the city did this and not honor their word, morale would COLLAPSE in this department. The repercussions would be severe and wide spread. This my friends would be the nuclear option for the city.
So you still want to be a Sgt.?
If they do this to the Sgt. then they will do it to the police officers. Well I am a hard working police officer. I work my tail off. My numbers are freaking awesome. So I have nothing to fear. The ones who should be shaking are the do nothing dogs. Like the 19th district dog.
Oh wow. That really sucks that seniority is going to count for something.
How about the senior sergeants who would like to work in... let's say, 022 or 016? Good for them.
The new contract doesn't day this at a for Sgt's. Every Sgt in the entire city will not have to re bid. They are going to open bid spots that are not filled. You now will have the option even if you are assigned to district to make that bid. They also are not going to open the entire city at one time.
This poster needs a tinfoil helmet
Anyone that is 55 this year and does not leave, especially Sergeants or above should sign themselves into a mental health facility. If you stay you deserve what you get!
Big changes are coming in the next month or so, let's see which meriticulus wonders get moved up. No matter how well you do on any exam the merit people will pass you up and run this department always have always will. This department like all other city departments, streets and san, water etc. are nothing more than employment agencies for the clouted. Look at the special people that retire and get cush jobs with other city agencies and double dip. This toilet needs to be flushed, real bad....
Lawyer's and loopholes? HaHaHa. You call O'Neill a lawyer? I remember O'Niell, Esquire, sobbing openly after receiving his test score from his first sergeants examination. A real Clarence Darrow he is! Thats why he works where he does, and not Kirkland and Ellis, Edwards Wildman, et al. I think my bid is safe and immutable.
Another genius with a what if question. Everyone had one of these idiots in their academy class. Apparently this guy never progressed beyond that point.
Did he even read the arbitration award?
019 District needs 400 Officers and not a lower number! Especially on the weekends when all the bars and nightclubs are full to the gills with drunken assholes!
Anyone who attended any of the Sergeant's union contract meetings knows that this silly shit rumour is not true. Sergeants who currently hold District bid spots will NOT loose their bid spot. The new contract says, "Sergeants currently holding District bid positions will not have to rebid for those positions. "
That would be a lot of clout to mess with.
The phone calls would be flying and important people would be aggravated.
I could see it if he were about to leave office.
When u mess with a sgt u mess with the wrong guy!
All Rahm has to do is give the command and FOP will do whatever he wants.
But oh wait. FOP is fighting for you!!
Haaaa.. If we all stuck together this wouldn't be happening.
Off topic.... soon all Area Central RBT detectives assigned to districts will be working the same day off group. Some one want to explain the benefit to me? At least 2 days a week no detectives in the districts?
016 and 017 have no police officers to give to anybody--- already been picked clean to the bone--- routine for backlogs/raps on a daily basis in both districts--- routine for officers to have to wait around the station with no cars available so they can make their relief--- routine for first watch to have no wagon and downed primary beat cars--- 017 district third watch recently had only 2 supervisors-- one sgt was inside acting as the dss-- the other sgt was in the field and responsible for logging a 2 man bike unit, lawrence ave foot patrol, 9 primary beat cars, 2 wagons, park car, 2 traffic cars, and 2 late rapids--- 1 sgt logging 18 cars as well as approving reports on AIRA and handling call for supervisor beefs--- it doesn't happen everyday but it happens often enough where it becomes a safety concern for both supervisors and patrol officers....
Guess they'll reduce 016 and 017 down to about 150 each. Fifty officers per watch should be enough.
019 CANNOT afford to lose anymore Officers.
Lmao! You really think the protected will get bounced anywhere? Come on guys this is bs.
You can say what you want about the mayor,superintendent or any other city official, but leave the 019th district dog alone. My hero!
I thought John Northern retired.
10/02/2013 12:42:00 PM
Physically, but not mentally.
Thats great!
Morale will drop tremendously.
Of course some SGT's would be exempt per the commander and the clouted.
If Rahm thinks crime solve themselves he will be shit out of luck.
They will adapt and they will do as little as possible. and they will still get paid.
Anonymous said...
If they do this to the Sgt. then they will do it to the police officers. Well I am a hard working police officer. I work my tail off. My numbers are freaking awesome. So I have nothing to fear. The ones who should be shaking are the do nothing dogs. Like the 19th district dog.
10/03/2013 04:57:00 AM
signed, super cop stroke...
Anonymous said...
Just a few years ago 019 and 023 had close to 300 officers, EACH. Then they combined and G. McLush held some Town Hall meetings to sell this pile of shit to residents. All affected aldermen where there.
They PROMISED that the manpower levels would not go down, they would stay the same. Now it is appearing that the manpower levels are headed down to half of what they were when the two districts combined.
In 2000 019 itself had a strength report (remember the Period Strength Report?) of almost 350 officers, including supervisors. Not including civilians in the lockup and on the desk.
And the sheep living in 019 are not screaming bloody murder at the prospect of losing fully HALF of their police officers while taxes go up up up.
And people will continue to vote for this jerk off.
10/03/2013 02:19:00 AM
This is TRUTH
People who live in 19 and 23, you are down to 50% of the police officers you had before the districts combined. Call your alderman, call the mayor's office, SCREAM. You are getting the shaft. Your officers are patrolling the Englewood and other South and West side police districts while roving bands of thugs from those areas rob and beat you outside your homes.
Walk around an El station around midnight with an iPhone up to your ear and see what happens.
Then look for a cop. Good luck.
Anonymous said...
If they do this to the Sgt. then they will do it to the police officers. Well I am a hard working police officer. I work my tail off. My numbers are freaking awesome. So I have nothing to fear. The ones who should be shaking are the do nothing dogs. Like the 19th district dog.
10/03/2013 04:57:00 AM
More important, who is your clout?
Anonymous said...
If they do this to the Sgt. then they will do it to the police officers. Well I am a hard working police officer. I work my tail off. My numbers are freaking awesome. So I have nothing to fear. The ones who should be shaking are the do nothing dogs. Like the 19th district dog
WOW!!!!!!! One of a few things, either you are a troll and the biggest idiots on the department, or you have your head up your ass so far you cant taste or see the bullshit. LMFAO, your numbers are so freaking high? WTF, you got to be kidding me? If you are truly serious, wait till one day you step on your dick and your numbers are so high the dept will throw you under the bus.
Thank you sir for either being a troll and making me laugh, or for being serious and making me laugh my ass off.
"My numbers are so high...................."
Anonymous said...
this already happened at B & A 3 yrs ago......FOP allowed it. reduction in man power and 13 Dets were sent to either Area 1, 2, or 4.
FOP allowed City and MLAS do this even though it violated the contract.
all bid spots too.
grievence lost of course!
10/03/2013 01:03:00 AM
You're not making any sense.
You're apparently saying that the City, IN VIOLATION OF THE CONTRACT, did this at MLAS, correct?
But also, you're apparently saying that the FOP filed a grievance, (as they should have), that you say they lost, correct again?
So my obvious question is this:
If THE CITY violated the contract, and the FOP FILED A GRIEVANCE that they lost in arbitration, then how in the HELL can you then say that the "FOP allowed City and MLAS do this"?
Did the FOP not do EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO?
Some of the goofs on here just amaze me.
Did ballerina make same offer to FOP with 8 % pay raise . Let's take it so we don't get last like last tome . Mayor Daley offered us 16 % and we ended up with 10 % .
Let's hope the city doesn't do this. I am a blue shirt and for some sick fucking reason there is a division in this department. Blue shirts take great pleasure if the white shirts suffer. But trust me, if they do it to the Sgt. then eventually they will do it to us. We will all be screwed. Can you imagine if some poor guy lives in 016 and then he ends up on 1st watch 4th, 5th, 6th or 8th district? What a blow to his or her family.
OMG, you mean there are 2 JA'S as supervisors? Here we thougth there was only one JA in 011.
1 of them is more than enough..
District openings for Sergeants are only put out for bid when a bid Sergeant leaves a district. If you bid into that district from another, you are now a bid Sergeant and are protected.
The Sergeant with twenty years in grade who has been there since he got his stripes, is not a bid, and is not protected. The Sergeant with twenty years in grade who was brought in yesterday by the phone call of the new Commander, also is not bid, and is also not protected (at least not by bid). No Sergeant who bid into a district is losing his bid status. For that reason, there may be no openings in some districts when the bids come open.
As for there being no more intradistrict bids before the citywide bid for a bid Sergeant spot, that is a good no a GREAT thing. This way those little phonecall bitches with no time don't get to trump a senior Sergeant for a spot just because their phonecall snuck them into a district two days before the bids come out so it looks like they are bidding from inside the district.
That said, if you are one of these twenty year Sergeants, make sure you bid for that district you are in so that you don't get bounced for the six year guy who took the midnight bid given up by someone who took the day bid before it went citywide.
SCC, you should know better than to help someone push this ignorance and scare tactics. I KNOW you know people who would give you the facts.
And don't believe anything the Commander of lManagement and Labor Affairs tells you. He only parrots the party line. He knew the city would lose the Sergeants DSS grievance (even knew they HAD to lose it), but kept up the bullshit because that's what gets him the big bucks.
Academy Admin Mgr 1/2 day yesterday. No show as of 1210 today.
She is also "covering / cooking the books" for her staff. Particularly LN, who works about as often as A. C-H.
FYI - this same info is being forwarded to media types that like to go after ghostpayrollers. Hopefully one of hem will expose because this Dept and the Inspector General dont seem to care!
This was added to the Sgt's contract because of a grievance that was lost concerning pay when detailed out. The old contract was confusing because most sergeants assumed that Watch bid and District bid were the same and the city said no, refusing to give Watch bid sergeants extra pay when detailed out.District bid sergeants will keep their bid spots (very few are District Bid). The remaining spots will go up city wide with two opening each period until all 12 spots are filled. True, that less senior sergeants might get the boot and some sergeants might loose days when senior sergeants move in.
The flogging's will continue until morale improves!
The only good thing about banging your head against the wall is it feels so good when you stop.
Unfortunately with this current regime the only way to stop is to retire.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-little-village-shooting-washtenaw-20131003,0,5354275.story
Please post this video. The public needs to see the criminality that brave CPD officers confront head on everyday. Proud to have CPD protecting me everyday. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU
Yea the dept. is doing this for our best interests. Funny thing is when you call down to PBPA, no one knows anything, you get the " I'll get back to you on that"..... I sounds to me that the issue here is no one is giving a straight answer about the existing bid spots and future bid spots. A little clarity goes a long way. When 019 and 023 merged there was a lot of gnashing of teeth when senior sgts. were launched over less senior ones who had bid in. While the questions are:
What about current sgts. who bid into their respective districts, will they keep that district bid?
Will the dept. allow sgts. who are currently in districts to bid for said openings first, then open it up city wide if there are bid spot left unfilled?
If a district has say 23 sgts but only 3 are currently bid holders, can 9 sgts possibly bid into said district increasing the sgts to 32 for said district? And if so what happens to the other sgts?
How many districts can a Sgt bid for at a time?
Will watch bids have to repicked?
See, so many questions, not many, answers....
Is Jimmy Ade leaving the CPD to work at Streets and Sanitation or Fleet Management?
Well I am a hard working police officer. I work my tail off. My numbers are freaking awesome. So I have nothing to fear. The ones who should be shaking are the do nothing dogs. Like the 19th district dog.
10/03/2013 04:57:00 AM
Bringing in "numbers" doesn't make you a good police officer. Also, don't judge others as "dogs" on their lack of "activity". They may have litigation pending or some other reason.
Their reasons are theirs and they don't owe you an explanation, Jr
ALl they have to do is close a few more stations. If not for the political favors that are owed commanders, you can bet that a LOT more stations would be shuttered and the POs there spread into the other parts of the shitty.
Well, I think once Sgt's are forced to bid out of dist, they LOSE their watch bid... (diff between dist and watch bids)... Just like a PO. If a po is bid on a watch and bids out, he goes on managemnt to fill a spot until the next avaiible quarterly bids... So no, you won't have like 15 sgts on days. You will have a handful of new sgts (the ones with phone calls) on days, while the rest are spread to other watches to fill a vacancy. IF any of this is true. Just one more reason to NOT become a sgt. Blue shirts, once they have the time to BID to a district and make a BID to a watch, are safe long-term (90 day detail notwithstanding)...
"If you have under 8 years as a sergeant prepare to empty your locker out and move to another less desirable unit. A lot of tac sergeants are screwed!"
wrong-tac and caps and business sgts and sat sgts and detailed out to unit sgts will be exempted from the reverse seniority bounce.....only watch folks with little time in grade and no juice will be bounced
DISTRICT BIDDING
I would like to clarify the district bid procedure that will be in the next contract. For the first time, there will be a set number of district bid spots available. We haven’t had this level of protection before. There will be 12 district bid positions per district. Those sergeants who had previously bid into their current district will retain their district bid position. The department will be opening the balance of open district bid spots quarterly over the course of the first year of the contract. For example, if a district already has 6 sergeants that are in district bid positions, the remaining 6 will be available (1 or 2 per quarter). If you do not hold a district bid position in your current assignment, you will be able to bid for the remaining bid spots there in the city-wide posting. In a case where none, or very few of the currently assigned sergeants were successful bidders, and if the additional bid sergeants created an over abundance of sergeants in a particular district, the department may balance manpower by reassigning non-district bid sergeants on the basis of reverse seniority. This scenario may occur, but is unlikely due to the number of senior sergeants that do not hold district bid positions in their current assignment and would be bidding for the open positions.
EXAMPLE:
In 016, it looks like 7 openings to be available, so 1 or 2 openings will be posted per quarter. If no 016 district sergeants are successful in attaining any of those spots (highly unlikely) then there would be an influx of 7 sergeants. If that created an overage of sergeants in 016 (which currently has the fewest of any district), then and only then, to balance manpower the department may re-assign, by reverse seniority among non-district bid sergeants. Looking at the seniority listing, many of the non-district bid sergeants currently in 016 are likely to be successful bidders for those district bid spots. Given the level of manpower and the seniority of those assigned, it appears very unlikely that anyone would be re-assigned from 016.
We are in the process of updating the “BID UNIT POSITIONS” section on the website to reflect the current levels. This is taking some time because we are going through all of the bidding history and transfer orders back to 1999. Once this is completed, we will post it on the website and notify you via email.
Funny. I never hear a sergeant complain of the current bidding process.
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All of my sergeants complain worse than the P.O.s
Some trouble brewing at the the academy I hear. Ghost pay rolling at its finest. Back to the watch bitches!!!
Hey SCC, I think this post was actually not meant to stir up shit but ask legit questions about what is circulating out there. The PBPA could put this issue to rest by simply sending out an E-mail to all Sgt.s Cant blame anyone for being "suspect" about all the rumors circulating out there. A little clarity goes a long way.
Anonymous said...
Haaaa.. If we all stuck together this wouldn't be happening.
10/03/2013 08:24:00 AM
This is so true. My old man tells me this often. He told me what happened when Mayor Harold Washington played hard ball with the police department. In all honesty I have to wonder, what is it going to take for people to wake up and stick together to achieve a common goal. What will it take? When will enough be enough?
other than sucking Donkey-Balls, it's a great place to work and be appreciated.
Anonymous said...
If the city did this and not honor their word, morale would COLLAPSE in this department. The repercussions would be severe and wide spread. This my friends would be the nuclear option for the city.
10/03/2013 04:41:00 AM
WHAT Morale ?
Anonymous said...
"If you have under 8 years as a sergeant prepare to empty your locker out and move to another less desirable unit. A lot of tac sergeants are screwed!"
wrong-tac and caps and business sgts and sat sgts and detailed out to unit sgts will be exempted from the reverse seniority bounce.....only watch folks with little time in grade and no juice will be bounced
****************** NOT TRUE ******************
Exempt means for watch bids. Any Sgt. that is not a districk bid can be moved in reverse seniorty order. The Sgts. exempt from watch bids CAN STILL bid to and get/be a District bid. They then cannot be moved. And since there are only 5 watch bids per district a "District Bid" can still be "Management on a watch, just like now they have non bids to a district as a bid on a watch. (They can transfer you but have to keep you on the watch you bid for , for the rest of that year.
O.T. A capital hill police man was injured today while pursuing a suspect in a car chase. Let's take a moment of our time and pray so this officer heals. I'll be praying for you brother!
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/10/03/capitol-hill-police-officer-injured/
I am taking the Brad Woods study group course. I am studying my ass off. I know someone who is heavy. Her dad is a big boss and she has clout. She told me straight to my face "I admire the fact that you are studying your ass off, I hope you make it to the list. I'm going to be in the top 100 for sure". Sure that sort of stuff gets to you. But I won't be stopped. I won't be deterred. I will press on. I know plenty of people who studied hard and made it. Don't let that get to you.
Bringing in "numbers" doesn't make you a good police officer. Also, don't judge others as "dogs" on their lack of "activity". They may have litigation pending or some other reason.
Their reasons are theirs and they don't owe you an explanation, Jr
Sad to say that's not the case. Dogs are dogs and they will find whatever excuse they can to make them not the victim. Even the ones who have been screwed by this department still do more work then the vast majority of people on this job today. It's sad to see that they won't even respond to assist or in progress calls when they're a block away.
Northern and Shaved are two lost souls attempting to stay in the limelight and gain much needed attention.
Dear diary,
OMG hell on earth today! First off I walked into the 019th district station and who was there? Yes XO M.R. And boy did he look mad! Well then again he always looks mad, in fact he always has a expression on his face that you make after farting a burrito meal in a small room. Anyway, I made a quick left turn and tactically extracted myself from walking towards him by running up to the second floor. He is lucky he didn't follow me because if he did I would have told him off something fierce! My god man I spent 15 months on the west side working the desk does he know who I am?
Well I was hoping that my day would brighten up after all the gloom and doom but then I find out at roll call that only 6 people a day can have time due! 6?! Well I took matters into my hands and got a radio and held myself down on reports in the station so I could look at my Mikey Shields issued FOP book and see what kind of time off I needed. After an hour and a half of research it turns out I didn't need any time off other than that day I already took to take Abba, my cat, to the vets. I went and checked out my cruiser and hit the streets! Straight to 7-11 to get coffee and check for new gun mags. There were no new ones so I just focused in on reading the stuff in the old mags regarding knives. Every time a yuppie princess walked into the store I gave her my best warrior look. I think I may have the look down too good because it seemed to scare them away from me.
Now here is where it goes all FUBAR. Dispatch calls me even though I'm still being held down on paper in the station, so I ignore the call. They keep calling me, why me? Geez I only started 2 hours ago if I wanted this kind of job pressure I could bid back to the west side for cripes sake! They finally asked a sergeant if I was working today and that meddling idiot sgt T.E. Ratted me out and said he thought he saw me at the 7-11. I might have to put in a beef, I'm not even on his log! Who does he think he is? He looks like a tanned version of potsie webber who got his hair caught in a flow-bie!
Well dispatch called me again and I snapped at them something good! They had the nerve to give me a suspicious vehicle without occupants, I was all like "I'm squad, I'm 99 are you TRYING to get me killed?" Geez, suspicious vehicles are often the dumping places of murders, watch any episode of Bones and you will see. Well needless to say I drove past the area where that car was supposed to be at 50mph, I didn't see it so I was about to leave when all of the sudden I saw our Tact Lt in his car watching me! Finally I think I'm about to get the recognition I deserve, I know they have spots open, maybe he wants me for the entertainment detail? Just as he saw me slow my cruiser down he opened his mouth, but he crammed his cigar in it and drove off rather than validate my existence and ask me on. Well he is on my poo poo list now! One day when he is not looking I'm going to flip him the bird!
I convienently forgot to clear until they called for me again an hour and a half later. Like a veteran taught me I answered up with my lunch location before they could assign me a job. Today I are a chateau Brioche they have a pumpkin risotto that is to die for! To show you how bad my day was though my risotto was a bit underdone. I finished lunch and called in a bus check for another hour and went straight into my foot patrol to finish my day. Boy I'll tell you I have two more days in my week and I already am exhausted! I wonder what tomorrow will bring?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Lawyer's and loopholes? HaHaHa. You call O'Neill a lawyer? I remember O'Niell, Esquire, sobbing openly after receiving his test score from his first sergeants examination. A real Clarence Darrow he is! Thats why he works where he does, and not Kirkland and Ellis, Edwards Wildman, et al. I think my bid is safe and immutable.
10/03/2013 06:25:00 AM
How about when he was a sgt. in 015 and was scared shitless. He went to his clout and begged to get out. Problem was a guy named Sorich. The "clout list" came out at his trial. Low and behold, Donald O'Neil begging to get out of 15 and looking to go back to the youth division. Hey Donny, some of us have long memories. Keep back stabbing Don. It will haunt you forever.
All Sergeants: Refer to your department email. Everyone was sent an email regarding this issue. This entire issue is explained in detail. Everything is clear and leaves no unanswered questions. Stay away from the rumor mill.
Don't believe everything you hear, why don't you ask next time instead of spewing nonsense anonymously?
Bill O'Reilly
10/03/2013 03:59:00 AM
Does this mean that the contract will be explained on Fox News? Thanks for caring Bill!
Bwahahahahaha!
Anonymous said...
If they do this to the Sgt. then they will do it to the police officers. Well I am a hard working police officer. I work my tail off. My numbers are freaking awesome. So I have nothing to fear. The ones who should be shaking are the do nothing dogs. Like the 19th district dog.
10/03/2013 04:57:00 AM
If this isn't sarcasm, then you are one dumb mother f*cker.
jim ade twisted it to seem like a benefit lol
Anonymous said...
I thought John Northern retired.
10/02/2013 12:42:00 PM
Physically, but not mentally.
10/03/2013 09:12:00 AM
Have you ever talked to him? Great guy, but bat-shit fucking crazy, and he'll admit it.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Big changes are coming in the next month or so, let's see which meriticulus wonders get moved up.
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Nuh uh. Big changes coming tomorrow. Friday.
You can take that to the bank.
Big changes. Tomorrow. Friday. Maybe at noon.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Off topic.... soon all Area Central RBT detectives assigned to districts will be working the same day off group. Some one want to explain the benefit to me? At least 2 days a week no detectives in the districts?
10/03/2013 08:33:00 AM
That sounds retarded. It will never happen.
Off Topic This is a city of Chicago job if you didnt know there was gonna be corruption, favoritism, and affirmative action, then I am sorry you are very naive. I have been on this job for 22yrs i am a White male with no clout basically the biggest real minority in Chicago. I came on the job with no college so I cannot be promoted. I do not abuse the medical, my stats are probaly in the top 30% of the city. I understand they are trying to screw us over, but please dont use that as a excuse to not serve the real victims and your fellow blue shirts. all of you dogs out there who dont do anything because your not happy with your job are only screwing you fellow officers. like any other job 80% of work is done by 20% of the officers. I am not telling you to get parkers, movers and contact cards im just saying handle your jobs in a timely manner so the other officers dont have to cover your slack. as bad as it gets and its gonna get alot worse you still get a good salary and decent benefits for a job that if you dont get hurt is very easy. so like I said help the real victims and your co-workers at the very least.
Hey SCC I am studying for the Sgt test and noticed that some of the G.O.'s are pretty outdated and make reference to things that are not even in existence. Mobile strike force???? and gun registration do we even have a gun registration now? These are just some examples that may pose a problem for testing. Does anyone else see any discrepancies in the G.O.'s. There is another thing a lot of the G.O's make reference to the watch commander's that we no longer have I think they should have at least re-worded it to clarify.
I'm 3rd watch in 003rd district I'm already stuck in the shithole oh well I ain't going anywhere.
Dean Angelo Sr.has opened his website for his candidacy for President of the FOP. My concern is his previous life as a field rep. Dean needs to explain his spending habits at he Phoenix National convention. He needs to explain how he got retro pay on his captains salary before any of us lowly peons got our money. Come clean Dean maybe then we will listen.
Strictly retribution for voting down Rahm’s and Ade’s wet dream
Well, I think once Sgt's are forced to bid out of dist, they LOSE their watch bid... (diff between dist and watch bids)... Just like a PO. If a po is bid on a watch and bids out, he goes on managemnt to fill a spot until the next avaiible quarterly bids...
WRONG!!!
When a P/O bids to a new District, he bids to a District not a watch. When a Sgt bids to a new District, he bids to a District and a Watch at the same time. That's why the Sgt openings are listed as 011 District 3rd Watch 1 opening or 001 District 1st Watch 1 opening etc.
10/03/2013 12:16:00 PM said:
Academy Admin Mgr 1/2 day yesterday. No show as of 1210 today.
She is also "covering / cooking the books" for her staff. Particularly LN, who works about as often as A. C-H.
FYI - this same info is being forwarded to media types that like to go after ghostpayrollers. Hopefully one of hem will expose because this Dept and the Inspector General dont seem to care!
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In the interest of fact, the Admin Mgr from Academy was at a meeting I happened to be in around the time of your post. So maybe you have some valid gripes, or maybe you are just on the verge of a workplace breakdown, I don't know. But in this particular instance you made an erroneous assumption. Just because YOU don't know where she is or what she is doing does not mean she is a ghostpayroller. I'm just sayin'.
"...That sounds retarded. It will never happen."
In our department---That is why it will happen...
Did anyone else hear about the useless guy doing homicide files in Area central being caught working 6hr days? Good riddance turd
I am taking the Brad Woods study group course. I am studying my ass off. I know someone who is heavy. Her dad is a big boss and she has clout. She told me straight to my face "I admire the fact that you are studying your ass off, I hope you make it to the list. I'm going to be in the top 100 for sure". Sure that sort of stuff gets to you. But I won't be stopped. I won't be deterred. I will press on. I know plenty of people who studied hard and made it. Don't let that get to you.
10/03/2013 06:04:00 PM
You are a moron. The fact that you gave Brad Woods money to teach you something proves that.
Since Dean the Dream was mentioned here, I have some questions too. Other than this year, when was the last time this guy gave a rats ass about the FOP and even attended a meeting? How can a guy who is disabled work full time at FOP while still getting a disability check? I'm not questioning his disability, but if you can't work a desk spot or teach at the Academy how do you manage to work at a college? Guess he's no Mike Lappe. How does this guy have a clue what I need in a beat car after being gone all these years?
Put enough money in front of someone and it's amazing what they can suddenly do. Or tthink they can do.
All you youngsters out there need to know that this guy was booted off of the board of directors in 2002 along with his cronies who did not have your best interests at heart. Gave away free healthcare if I remember correctly.
In the interest of fact, the Admin Mgr from Academy was at a meeting I happened to be in around the time of your post. So maybe you have some valid gripes, or maybe you are just on the verge of a workplace breakdown, I don't know. But in this particular instance you made an erroneous assumption. Just because YOU don't know where she is or what she is doing does not mean she is a ghostpayroller. I'm just sayin'.
10/03/2013 10:52:00 PM
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Bullcrap! She was out shopping. She was seen!
Dean Angelo Sr.has opened his website for his candidacy for President of the FOP. My concern is his previous life as a field rep. Dean needs to explain his spending habits at he Phoenix National convention. He needs to explain how he got retro pay on his captains salary before any of us lowly peons got our money. Come clean Dean maybe then we will listen.
According to his letter he was forced off due to IOD.
That being said , my fear about a retiree president is that he would be more focused on retiree issues. In my opinion though I think we need an 'old timer' (no offense to anyone it's just the term I grew up with)...with no affiliation to this regime.
How come no where on Dean Angelo's election site does it mention he is a tenured professor at Calumet college. He should be proud of that. Is it because he does not want people look into the Public Safety program there or the fact that he will be employed full-time elsewhere while trying to run FOP?
Anonymous said...
Hey SCC I am studying for the Sgt test and noticed that some of the G.O.'s are pretty outdated and make reference to things that are not even in existence. Mobile strike force???? and gun registration do we even have a gun registration now? These are just some examples that may pose a problem for testing. Does anyone else see any discrepancies in the G.O.'s. There is another thing a lot of the G.O's make reference to the watch commander's that we no longer have I think they should have at least re-worded it to clarify.
10/03/2013 08:27:00 PM
It's always been that way. Read the order on Inventory. Most of the people on the job have never seen an inventory book but it is in the order. Just in case the online eTrack takes a shit.
Let's see, who get's the buff copy and where does the goldenrod copy go? Hint: The white is the original.
Did anyone else hear about the useless guy doing homicide files in Area central being caught working 6hr days? Good riddance turd
10/04/2013 12:01:00 AM
Dammit, that's cold. Hope they don't cum snooping around the entertainment detail here...
Bill O'Reilly is happy because he got an O'Hare Unit bid spot a few months ago. He has 17 years in grade which isn't that bad, but the two other sergeants that got the bids would not have got them if the bids were city-wide. A yeah, one of them got out there because she is married to the Deputy Fire Commissioner.
Good riddance. I'm tired of all these 1 year wonder sgts who come into the district by a phone call and have no clue what they are doing.
Have fun on the southside maybe you can learn something from real dog coppers.
In the interest of fact, the Admin Mgr from Academy was at a meeting I happened to be in around the time of your post. So maybe you have some valid gripes, or maybe you are just on the verge of a workplace breakdown, I don't know. But in this particular instance you made an erroneous assumption. Just because YOU don't know where she is or what she is doing does not mean she is a ghostpayroller. I'm just sayin'.
10/03/2013 10:52:00 PM
Well, she didn't feel the need nor have the urge to show up for work before or after that meeting so she is still a POS ghostpayroller!
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Hey SCC I am studying for the Sgt test and noticed that some of the G.O.'s are pretty outdated and make reference to things that are not even in existence. Mobile strike force???? and gun registration do we even have a gun registration now? These are just some examples that may pose a problem for testing. Does anyone else see any discrepancies in the G.O.'s. There is another thing a lot of the G.O's make reference to the watch commander's that we no longer have I think they should have at least re-worded it to clarify.
10/03/2013 08:27:00 PM
It's always been that way. Read the order on Inventory. Most of the people on the job have never seen an inventory book but it is in the order. Just in case the online eTrack takes a shit.
Let's see, who get's the buff copy and where does the goldenrod copy go? Hint: The white is the original.
10/04/2013 08:59:00 AM
Hurry up with the inventory book. I got one rock to inventory.
I love the Dear Diary by 19th district dog. That is some funny shit. Could a book detailing every work day in your year be next?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
In the interest of fact, the Admin Mgr from Academy was at a meeting I happened to be in around the time of your post. So maybe you have some valid gripes, or maybe you are just on the verge of a workplace breakdown, I don't know. But in this particular instance you made an erroneous assumption. Just because YOU don't know where she is or what she is doing does not mean she is a ghostpayroller. I'm just sayin'.
10/03/2013 10:52:00 PM
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Bullcrap! She was out shopping. She was seen!
10/04/2013 08:17:00 AM
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She's twins!
Dear Diary,
As a 019th District Dog, I have to make a speacial "entry" in my dog journal. I am aghast a the recent activity of our XO whom dons a great Freddy Mercury stash. Yummy. I am quite concerned as to his recent use of time which he never takes, he sooo dedicated. Seems some really turbulent things are going on here in 019. with the staff. Oh well, wait and see, gotta go, my nails are drying. Who's going back to the watch??? hmmm mm.........
Signed, 019 Dog.....
Anonymous 019th district dog said...
Dear diary,
OMG hell on earth today! First off I walked into the 019th district station and who was there? Yes XO M.R. And boy did he look mad! Well then again he always looks mad, in fact he always has a expression on his face that you make after farting a burrito meal in a small room. Anyway, I made a quick left turn and tactically extracted myself from walking towards him by running up to the second floor. He is lucky he didn't follow me because if he did I would have told him off something fierce! My god man I spent 15 months on the west side working the desk does he know who I am?
Well I was hoping that my day would brighten up after all the gloom and doom but then I find out at roll call that only 6 people a day can have time due! 6?! Well I took matters into my hands and got a radio and held myself down on reports in the station so I could look at my Mikey Shields issued FOP book and see what kind of time off I needed. After an hour and a half of research it turns out I didn't need any time off other than that day I already took to take Abba, my cat, to the vets. I went and checked out my cruiser and hit the streets! Straight to 7-11 to get coffee and check for new gun mags. There were no new ones so I just focused in on reading the stuff in the old mags regarding knives. Every time a yuppie princess walked into the store I gave her my best warrior look. I think I may have the look down too good because it seemed to scare them away from me.
Now here is where it goes all FUBAR. Dispatch calls me even though I'm still being held down on paper in the station, so I ignore the call. They keep calling me, why me? Geez I only started 2 hours ago if I wanted this kind of job pressure I could bid back to the west side for cripes sake! They finally asked a sergeant if I was working today and that meddling idiot sgt T.E. Ratted me out and said he thought he saw me at the 7-11. I might have to put in a beef, I'm not even on his log! Who does he think he is? He looks like a tanned version of potsie webber who got his hair caught in a flow-bie!
Well dispatch called me again and I snapped at them something good! They had the nerve to give me a suspicious vehicle without occupants, I was all like "I'm squad, I'm 99 are you TRYING to get me killed?" Geez, suspicious vehicles are often the dumping places of murders, watch any episode of Bones and you will see. Well needless to say I drove past the area where that car was supposed to be at 50mph, I didn't see it so I was about to leave when all of the sudden I saw our Tact Lt in his car watching me! Finally I think I'm about to get the recognition I deserve, I know they have spots open, maybe he wants me for the entertainment detail? Just as he saw me slow my cruiser down he opened his mouth, but he crammed his cigar in it and drove off rather than validate my existence and ask me on. Well he is on my poo poo list now! One day when he is not looking I'm going to flip him the bird!
I convienently forgot to clear until they called for me again an hour and a half later. Like a veteran taught me I answered up with my lunch location before they could assign me a job. Today I are a chateau Brioche they have a pumpkin risotto that is to die for! To show you how bad my day was though my risotto was a bit underdone. I finished lunch and called in a bus check for another hour and went straight into my foot patrol to finish my day. Boy I'll tell you I have two more days in my week and I already am exhausted! I wonder what tomorrow will bring?
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GAY!!! And you probably Are! Save your next entry for someone who gives a shit!
According to his letter he was forced off due to IOD.
That being said , my fear about a retiree president is that he would be more focused on retiree issues. In my opinion though I think we need an 'old timer' (no offense to anyone it's just the term I grew up with)...with no affiliation to this regime.
10/04/2013 08:48:00 AM
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I wouldn't vote for him.
He was part of the problem with past administrations of the FOP
The FOP needs a smart young leader with the b@lls to stand up to the city.
Someone like the FF have at Local 2
We don't need old retired guys. There are and have always been plenty as trustee's
On top of that, if Dean is some head at Calumet College how much time will he devote you us at the FOP?
Sorry, I'm not voting for this Dean Angelo Sr. or Jr for that matter.
Fresh people to fill all the spots.
Hey Bill what protection does the sgts that may be moved have because of this process ? Uh none? Moved at city's discretion? Appears the sr. Sgts are covered
I have 10yrs as a sgt and a tact sgt has 2. Grievance if I get moved over him.
Anonymous said...
10/03/2013 12:16:00 PM said:
Academy Admin Mgr 1/2 day yesterday. No show as of 1210 today.
She is also "covering / cooking the books" for her staff. Particularly LN, who works about as often as A. C-H.
FYI - this same info is being forwarded to media types that like to go after ghostpayrollers. Hopefully one of hem will expose because this Dept and the Inspector General dont seem to care!
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In the interest of fact, the Admin Mgr from Academy was at a meeting I happened to be in around the time of your post. So maybe you have some valid gripes, or maybe you are just on the verge of a workplace breakdown, I don't know. But in this particular instance you made an erroneous assumption. Just because YOU don't know where she is or what she is doing does not mean she is a ghostpayroller. I'm just sayin'.
10/03/2013 10:52:00 PM
I'm just saying does not justify beefing on other workers. That seems to be a problem with a few employees that watch what everyone is doing. It must be nice to have the freedom and no work to have time monitoring others. If you are busy then you will not notice the actions of others. Get a job, buy a book but quit beefing on others. Snitches get stitches.
Hey 10:23, exactly why sergeants need this provision, no more secret intraunit bidding before it can go citywide
Dear Diary keep it up. That is really funny. Now another reason to read the blog.
I have 10yrs as a sgt and a tact sgt has 2. Grievance if I get moved over him.
10/05/2013 02:37:00 AM
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It depends...
If he "BID" into the district he has more right to stay that you if you were assigned there right out of "sgt. training"
The new contract doesn't day this at a for Sgt's. Every Sgt in the entire city will not have to re bid.
This poster needs a tinfoil helmet
10/03/2013 05:36:00 AM
And this poster needs to get the tin foil off his keyboard.
"doesn't day this at a for Sgt's. "
Bet you click on anything in AIRA!
Let's see, who get's the buff copy and where does the goldenrod copy go? Hint: The white is the original.
10/04/2013 08:59:00 AM
Now I just KNOW the 'keesing bandit' gets the buff copy !!!!!
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