Thanks Rahm....and Mike
What a pair of assholes - Rahm for his offer, Mike for his incompetence:
- Mayor Rahm Emanuel is offering Chicago Police officers a 5 percent pay raise over three years — with no retroactive pay raise — and demanding that active officers double their health-care contributions while new retirees pay 4 percent of annuities for coverage now provided for free.
The mayor also is demanding that rank-and-file police officers join a wellness program they have shunned to control skyrocketing health-care costs.
Even after two years of nowhere bargaining tied to his contentious relationship with Emanuel, Fraternal Order of Police President Mike Shields was stunned by the mayor’s plan.
Thanks President One-Term. You're "stunned?" You should be run out of town on a rail. In fact, every single Board member of the FOP should lose their jobs over this for starters. Every. Single. One.
And fuck you Rahm for pissing all over our service, our sacrifice, and our families. There's a special place in hell for people like you who steal their way to prosperity behind the scenes while the rest of us are just trying to get by.
Here's a hint FOP - stop negotiating right now. Throw the whole thing to an arbitrator. Rahm obviously isn't negotiating in good faith, so stop the charade. Maybe we'll at least get the 10% we got last time.
And fuck you Rahm for pissing all over our service, our sacrifice, and our families. There's a special place in hell for people like you who steal their way to prosperity behind the scenes while the rest of us are just trying to get by.
Here's a hint FOP - stop negotiating right now. Throw the whole thing to an arbitrator. Rahm obviously isn't negotiating in good faith, so stop the charade. Maybe we'll at least get the 10% we got last time.
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posted by SCC at 5:31 AM
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"Here's a hint FOP - stop negotiating right now. Throw the whole thing to an arbitrator. Rahm obviously isn't negotiating in good faith, so stop the charade. Maybe we'll at least get the 10% we got last time."
Hey SCC - this would be the SMARTEST move by the FOP.
Cut him off now before an arbitrator has a chance to try and side with the city.
The last few contracts have leaned in the citys favor.
And F that prick Shileds.
He's f - ing stunned?
VOTE OUT THE ENTIRE FOP!
Throw it to the arbitrator. That's better than little Mikey talking for us. And of course rahm will low ball. This whole situation is weird.
KMA Club
Yet at check off the clueless will come in with handfuls of revenue.
no wellness program!!!!! no wellness program!!! this thing is awful
Mayor 1% is for the wealthy elites at the expense of the hard working middle class.
He lobbies for cuts to modest pensions to police and also lobbies for tax breaks for rich traders at the Merc. He fights to eliminate healthcare from retirees who risked their lives and then gives TIF tax dollars to billionaire developers and rich private institutions to build hotels and sports arenas.
SUNK.
Fuck you, Rahm, you little pissant fuck.
It is so shameful that a city would treat those who risk their life on a daily basis to keep us safe as this fucked up town does. We're used to the powers that think they be sticking it to the sheeple, but this is FUBAR.
--No Cop Here
This is BULLSHIT!!! Everyone needs to stop working special and VRI for as long as it takes to get our message across. Give it two months and I guarantee Rahm will be coming to us and asking what do we want.
All you vets better start thinking how Rahm is trying to screw you in retirement and all you kids better start thinking how Rahm is trying to screw you every which way but loose.
Yeah, Mike is a lying jagoff, but blame the entire FOP Board? Why? He and he alone fucked this up.
He was told to send the demand letter. Aguilar claims he told him. Donahue claims he told him. His supposedly disgruntled secretary claims she told him. And, oh yeah, he lied to the membership at a February 21, 2012 meeting when he told them he was going to send the letter by March 1st. He then lied to the Board about it this year claiming he didn't know about the deadline. He lied to the membership at a meeting again recently when he apologized and claimed the same thing.
I don't see how anyone can hold the FOP Board accountable unless they expected someone to put a gun to his head and walk him to a fucking mailbox.
Vote every elected FOP office holder out!!
The next election can't get here soon enough.
Divide and conquer. It's a war. Apparently some have not figured that out. Rahm walked into the room with a suit of steel and a sword in his tiny hand.
Of topic it was fun watching his brother get slapped around by the female anchor on Fox News. By merely using logic and an even tone she made him look foolish.
Fuck you Rahm. 20 years of service and working hard trying 2 take care of my family. Working two jobs and this is a slap in the face for every officer in the city. And to our one term joke of a president you will go down in history as the most incompetent asshole wannabe President this union has ever had. Shame on you FOP for flushing us down the toilet.
Now, police officers are paying the price.
The mayor is offering a 5 percent pay raise over three years beginning on July 1, 2013. That means no retroactive pay hike.
Health-care contributions for active members would double — from 2.4 percent to 4.9 percent of paychecks for families and from 1.98 percent to 3.97 percent for married couples.
.....So that's a pay cut then??
What did you honestly expect. You Elected an Ego maniac that thought it would be a great idea to give the new Mayor a gift that everyone snickers at. You didn't support him in his election effort. You get what you get and as much as it is on Shields. It is on the rank and file for putting him in a position to purge the lodge of qualified personnel. The employees that he kept around were part of his plot to get elected as President. How every single one of you are not up there demanding that Paul Gieger be fired and Jim McCarthy be sent back to the district. Your paid trustees that are there for the check have done more harm than good. Being a rubber stamp they allow this fool to believe he was doing a good job. If you polled the average tax paying citizen they would not support a 10% increase over 3 yrs...they would support wellness and an increase in contribution to healthcare. I know some of you didnt vote for this fool, but where have you been at the meetings. You thought it would fall on deaf ears. You never made an attempt to shape the policy direction of this fools term and you get what you get.
I really think we should get zero percent raise over three years. I mean think about it for second. What do you really do at work? Drive aimlessly in a squad car for 8 hours. Rahm needs money for the DePaul project and others of the like. Maggie Daley park for example and money to pay the Safe Passage and Cease Fire employees. I mean don't that have that everywhere in all the cities? I think we should all get SNAP/link cards and don't remember we already have free CTA transportation that we can take to and from work. Stop whining guys and just take what the mayor gives us. He knows what's best for us. We don't even need a union really. We love you Rahm.
not to mention the coming pension changes!
What a sad situation that Police officers are so despised by the mayor. Also, Sheilds must go. I've met him a few times and find him oily. Never looks you in the eye. This city is on such a downward spiral. At first, I missed the job after retirement. Now, I thank The Lord .
SCC. It is an offer. You don't blame the Union for what they are offered, only what they accept.
The whole budget crisis the city is having is all the fault of the greedy police. Just ask Rahm he will tell you. He is going to get even with them for the sake of the children...
shields claim to fame...........
he stopped luberman from getting a gold braid pension.
he can make any kind of offer he wants. he could offer to let you work for free.
does not mean you have to accept it.
if I were mayor I would not be offering any sweeteners like retroactive pay up front. that is just plain stupid.
5% over 3 years does not sound like that great of a deal but 6 or 7% is about the most one can reasonably expect.
everyone knows that health care costs are unsustainable and that it was going to end up costing more. this should not be a surprise.
this is a negotiation. don't take it personal.
Agree. Shields and Company have to go and file for impasse and go to arbitration now.
I had high hopes for Mike but he has turned out to be a terrible Union President. Anyone whose first term requires so much self defense is beyond saving. He must go. Period. No hatred, no vitriol. Simple make a change. Thanks but goodbye.
Arbitration.
The Wellness Program is an outrage. As a retired Sgt. who is on my wife's insurance, she is a CPS teacher, my family is part of the Wellness Program. Every month we have to go on line and explain what we have done to stay or get well, or pay an additional $100 per month. We have to tell some unknown person, in California,(apparently those are the people who got the crony contract) about our personal and what should be private health issues. But if you are a Socialist like Rahm and Obama, I guess it is O.K. for us peasants. Keep voting Democrat, actually you have no choice because the Republicans lack the balls to put up a credible candidate in Illinois for any elected Office.
Doubling my healthcare contributions means I'm going from $90.16 a pay for the family to $180.32a pay. It sucks, but compared to what is happening to the rest of the country , we shouldn't howl too loud.
Even the talk of receiving a raise would be forgeign to other Americans who have been laid off, hours reduced to part time, and no relief in sight.
Try not to complain about this too loudly when you are looking for your police discount in front of civilians.
Not a cop
Make sure you assholes go out there and work. See what he thinks of us. You dumbasses
This was Mike's ploy all along. Go to arbitration right before the election, so he could come back and say, "Do not throw the baby out with the bath water."
Thanks for the worthy representation,Shields. You're a useless P.O.S. I bought your bullshit and voted for you. Hard lesson learned.
Time to make waves. Get the picket signs ready.
Someone should be crucified!
Thank goodness for that piece of shit Fran Spielman for being the town crier for our contract. How the fuck did it come to this, that we get most of our information from the newspaper first.
I wish people would stop giving s
Shields credit for the sergeants contract or the rejection prior to. HE had nothing to do with the decision to reject the contract!!!!! He wrote a letter urging the sergeants to reject it. Something that was obviously decided anyway. He carried NO weight whatsoever!!!
The only way to fix this is for all you coppers to get out there and GENERATE MORE REVENUE.
Keep sucking ass.
Hey Mikey-
That Sergeant's contract is looking better and better all the time, don't you think !This is all your fault ! You listened to Geiger who told you to fire Plienes. You had no labor attorney to tell you when to send the letter protecting the retro pay. You shot off your mouth to the media that you would get your membership 12% over 2 years and what do you have to show for it? You were brought up on charges of incompetence. You dumped Dougherty who at least had some experience in negotiations and what do you have to show for it ? You've got Geiger and all his lawyer pals like Licari, Deveraux and Dahms who are sucking at the FOP t**t as everything about the FOP that was for the membership has been lost. Your secretary was right. You have destroyed the FOP in one term. Did Rahm give you back the cuff links ?
Ouch, the comments to that article are not really sympathetic to us.
Get on with it already. Give us what the sgts got and quit waisting time and money and commence with the charades. Stupid ass city
BOHICA
Enuff said...
Let's see Rahm is scrrewing our local community, both he and his brother Ezekiel are screwing us on the national level with the healthcare fiasco and brother Ari is corrupting America with leftist propoganda movies from Hollywood. A Trifecta of A-holes.
Look at the American cities foreign governments warn travelers to stay away from :
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2013/11/14/16-american-cities-foreign-governments-warn-their-citizens-about//?print=1
Negotiations are over mike, to the arbitrator now, stop the bullshit.
IMHO you cops are getting f--ked. Rahm wants to keep on f--king you. And the Slum-Times is doing their best with this *neutral* article to see it stays that way. Here's why from an outside view looking 'in', and just based on what's printed in the S-T.
The brain-dead zombies, aka the public, are going to see that $61,530/yr after one year + $1,800 allowance and wrongly conclude the *average* hourly pay is $33.65/hr, or $1346 a week. They'll base that as if coppers were salaried office workers, in a *normal 40/wk job*, where there's 80 hrs paid vacation a yr, 6 paid fed holidays, and 5 paid sick days. Resulting in a yearly total of only 1912 hours 'working on the job'.
That's IF they're just not the complete jags who scream that FAIRNESS crap by 'rationalizing' many with Masters Degrees get paid about that, blah, blah, blah, BULL. Or the fucking outright police haters who think all cops do is ride around drinking coffee and eating donuts -- that is, when they're not selling guns to gangs or shooting minorities just for the fun of it (I bet those assholes are already on the Slum-Times typing away their asshole comments). And as such, the police are overpaid now and should get a zero raise. Hell, or GIVE BACK money (never underestimate an idiot).
Ergo, I think -- unlike libtards who only *feel* -- that after seeing this article Rahm is leaning back in his booster seated chair with his tiny dancing feet up on the desk laughing his tutu wearing ass of with this subliminal piece of crap the Slum-Times conjured up for him, thinking; "Ha! Got 'em now, fuck them and their raise!"
But fuck him, don't give up. Trust me you ARE appreciated.by the citizens who really matter. Unfortunately you don't run into them in your typical day.
btw, It's funny (not ha-ha funny) when I was in HS (good old Kelly) I thought of being a Chicago Cop as many in the 'old hood of Brighton Park did join the force. And over my many years had quite a few friends on the job; Patrol, Narc, and Det. Now...I wouldn't be a Chicago Cop for $225,000 a year. It's basically thankless now: 'Be the police, just don't act like the police, or else.' Like wtf?...how do you do that?
So stay safe Officers and thanks for all you do.
regards,
C.J.T.
The dirties crook on the street are no match for the judas back stabbing pricks who are supposed to represent us. Six figure salaries for what!! what the fuck do they really do. For God's sakes these are beat car cops with faults illusions of political corrupt grandeur.
What did I tell you about Shields? Run that bum out of town.
Retired Lt.
Ok SCC I rarely disagree with you here but, you are wrong. You want to get rid of Mikey, fine. The whole board? Huh? Our union didn't ask for this, the city offered this to us. It's a negotiation. Now is the time to wait for the unions response. Now if they roll over and show their underbelly then yes I'm on board, clear Em all out. But here is what I'd like to see as a response.
1. Counter offer of 25% over 3 years
2. Healthcare stays the same
3. Minimum staffing numbers must be negotiated
4. (Most important) take it to the media hard and fast. This whole not negotiating in the media needs to stop. Cite NATO, use Rahms glowing praise for us. Use members who are legitimately on IOD for being battered or shot or hurt in a crash. Pour it on and don't stop.
This is a slap in the face to every member on the job. This carpet bagging piece of shit mayor just showed in public what he really thinks of us. Anyone who does not vote in the upcoming FOP and mayoral elections should just bend over and take it dry. What a pompus arrogant asshole!
Wait a minute rahm did not want to give the sergeants anything it went to arbitrator shields is not advising us to take this shit offer, so relax it will go to arbitrator!
Don't be so sure that an arbitrator will give us 10%. We haven't always had good luck with arbitrators. Problem is that the city is broke. Yes, there is TIF money and other funds hidden away, but it is not enough to paper over the debts, and it gets worse next year when the city has to increase its pension contributions. Just read the Tribune articles about how Daley spent us into this problem, and was using and issuing bonds to pay every day expenses, something that Rahm is continuing to do. (Sometimes the dead tree media gets it right). Yes, Rahm is not our friend and Shields should be out of office for either incompetence or malfesance and even though we didn't make this mess, and to a certain extent Emmanuel inherited it, we are going to take a hit for it. Question is why are the people that caused this problem, especially Richard M. Daley not in jail?
How about "NO" raise and leave the contract as it was. (with no increase in our share of medical costs)
This is what happens when you think you know everything.
Little Mikey Shields will do whatever Rahm tells him to..."Pick up my dry cleaning,take my dog for a walk,and wash my scrotum with your tongue"
You can trust the arbitration system either. Arbitrator Ben gave another municipality exactly what he denied us and used that same rational that was given to him by us
Like it or not, look at the city's long term debt. Worse than Detroit per capita. Probably could make a bankruptcy argument with it.
That is the trump card that Rahm holds. Then everything is gone. Pay scales, All Benefits, Health Insurance and finally the Pension.
Funny how Mikey dumps Bill Dougherty who is back in 022 and all of a sudden Rahm moves in for the kill. So one has to ask: was this dump orchestrated by Mikey for a cushy job down the road? Say what you want about Bill, but he's the only one there who knows how to negotiate with some sense of professionalism.
The FOP needs to go to arbitration. You won't lose things in arbitration that aren't negotiated. In arbitration the FOP will probably get the 8% the sgts got. Maybe do a little better the economy is getting better. Don't negotiate with city on healthcare or wellness program and arbitrator will leave them the same.
ANYONE that does a damn thing for this city from now on should be ashamed. This is what the city of Chicago thinks of you. The piece of shit mayor literally just said "FUCK YOU" to all of us, our spouses and our children. But please, go out and write those fucking contact cards and movers and anovs. Get those one bag arrests to keep your beloved fucking numbers up. And spare me all of the "this is what you were hired to do" bullshit. I know exactly what I was hired to do. To live up to my half of the bargain. The city does not believe in holding up their end, so they can shove it. And no, I don't give a damn about the citizens suffering for Rahm's assholery. They are the ones that voted him in because I sure as hell didn't. And as for Shields, he was an arrogant do-nothing in patrol and he has gone above and beyond in proving that he still is as FOP president. Mike, you better have one hell of an escape plan because you're going to be run out of here so damn fast your head will spin.
Write your contact cards, bitches!
You know you love it when I beat you.
-Rahm
I won't write anything. Not a friggin parker! NOTHING! To hell with VRI!!!! No special employment. No overtime of any type. Let it crash and burn people. This is war. Stick together. Are we a band of brothers or what??? Mayor Scrooge can take his offer and shove it. ps. F*ck your Mary Jane ANOV. Definitely not writing it now.
If the arbitrator gives retro Rahm has NOTHING to say but pay it!
"The mayor also is demanding that rank-and-file police officers join a wellness program they have shunned to control skyrocketing health-care costs."
Many companies do this now and charge employees a higher healthcare insurance premium if they do not participate in the wellness program.
If you look at it , it is truely a 5% over four years not three. The three year contract in 2013 our contract ended 2012. Thanks again mike for losing an entire year of a contract.
Fuck him! Who does this little fuck think he is? Everything we have goes up in costs but the raises don't keep up with the costs of shit they raise. So we end up losing money. Yet welfare momma and pot head get increased benefits?!?!? What is wrong with this country?
I wholeheartedly agree. Stop wasting time now and move on to arbitration.
We were weak in the last arbitration . Cost bella the presidency . The city will fight the retro issue . Public won't understand or support it. I predict this gets drawn out to late 2014 or even 2015. do you remember how the arbitrator compared police pay to what a truck driver was making in rockford ? Seriously .
Shield only gets a offer of 5% from the city for police officer but secures a 10% raise for General Iron security officers at his side job. Priorities?
We should stop paying our dues to fop and just give them to an arbitrator, he gets us a better and more fair contract then fop can.
I'm sure Rahm's completely disrespectful offer is because of THE CHILDREN!
Keep on getting those contact cards.....
Now if we stuck together like other Departments have...
Right out of roll call make a traffic stop. Block the street. Cause grid lock. If every car does this, we go into a backlog.
As soon as you finish the traffic stop, do another. And block traffic causing gridlock. Take your time and make sure the ticket looks professional, as well as any reports.
Then do another traffic stop...... Doing this the whole tour especially on days and afternoons would cause gridlock from hell. Not to mention the RAP's.
New York did this. It took a day for the Mayor to give a contract.
But it probably wouldn't work here? We are way to soft and don't stick together. Enjoy your 5% which will really be more like 2% after all the add-ons.
Then we all can bitch at how we got screwed. I think we like bitching better. Because we sure don't stick together.
This ignorant, conniving bastard has all sorts of money for his wants like the DePaul Arena and this assinine bike lane obssesince of his yet he's broke when it comes time to compensate his first responders.
Fuck him and the horse he rode in on.
I dont like that shields is still there but I understand it. What I cant understand is how Rule Zero is still there. 0 was the lawyer handling contract negotiations during the letter issue. On top of the fact that we have paid over a million dollars defending this pervert in sex cases. The current sex lasuits will bankrupt the fop when a jury hears the case or when fop is forced to settle. Fop meeting on tuesday demand that 0 be fired.
What happened to us in the private sector is finally hitting you folks. No doubt that FOP sucks a big hairy cock, but you're joining a very large segment of the population getting fucked.
What percentage was it that Shields and his crew proclaimed they would get us when they were running for election?
No retro---No deal.....let the arbitration begin......even they will acknowledge "past practice" in terms of retro.
Mikey--How's that post retirement job looking? It better be out of state, you have about 10,000 enemies
If it goes to arbitration, FOP will get what the Sgts got. Re-read that award. There may be some non-financial tweaks, but that's what it will be. Probably minus the first year (because of the letter fiasco), but maybe not.
Well we better find someone to take his place Any Ideas?
I agree scc we need to clean house over on Washington. Do not vote to retain anyone of this current fop. Don't worry the retirees will vote in record numbers and keep these morons in power. I have my pitchfork and torch ready.
I expected nothing less from Rahm, who is a thief, a douche bag and a Democratic troll!
Shields is in shark waters with no life vest, stupid and needs to go back to midnights somewhere!
FOP Board members are out for themselves and don't give a fuck about their membership! All of them has to go!
Da Pelon
I think I like the stop negotiating now comment. Could it really hurt?
Where can I get a card to bring PBPA in as our union?
It is now perfectly clear - they are the only union in this city that knows what it is doing.
Awesome. Give me my 5% and double my healthcare so I can actually make less than what I'm making now. F ing thieves. The FOP should be burned to the ground. Bunch of useless a holes that look out for number one only. Hope it was a good run Mikey cause that beat car is just around the corner you f ing sellout.
This offer was an insult, plus no retro and double the health insurance cost.
Teachers received 16% over 4 years, and I'm tired of hearing it for the "children" Rahm doesnt mind oking the maximum property tax hike for the schools, but wont do shit for the CPD
Members of the Chicago Teachers Union have overwhelmingly ratified a new contract, union officials said late Wednesday, ending a bitter dispute with Mayor Rahm Emanuel over school reforms that prompted the first strike of city teachers in 25 years.
The deal will give teachers an average pay raise of 17.6 percent over four years if the three-year contract is extended an extra year.
This is not in defense of FOP but I think that retro is something that we've always obsessed over more than necessary. Retro is a result of the failure of the city and FOP coming to a timely agreement on our contract, most of the blame lies on the city. Retro is an interest free loan we give the city. Retro is an assumption that we were going to get a raise anyway. Retro is dangled in front of us while other things are taken away from us or medical contributions are raised. Retro will be a distraction from the bigger issue ahead of increased pension contributions from us, increased pension collection age and increased time of service to reach maximum pension. Again not a defense of FOP, they are one term you hit the nail right on the head they dropped the ball but lets not get suckered into giving something up now so Rahm gives us 1 or 1.5% for the first year of the contract . The only way he is going to willingly do that is if we give something up which will probably be more damaging.
""A mayoral adviser, who asked to remain anonymous, denied the city’s offer was aimed at sticking it to Shields, who torpedoed a four-year contract with police sergeants Emanuel had hoped to use as road map to solve the city’s pension crisis.""
When the media wh@re puts up an article for Rahm like she did for Daley there is a purpose. Rahm hates Shields almost as much as he hates Karen Lewis (Jabba the hut). This contract like all others was always going to go to the arbitrator.
To those who have not paid attention or who are under 35 the past two union administrations made serious mistakes in giving the city concessions. The Nolan group opened the door to health care for $2 and said it would never go up. How did that work out?
And the Donahue/Dougherty forgave 30 million in pension debt with the city assurances that they would start playing catch up. Again how did that work out?
As far as the retro pay is concerned Aguliar and Dougherty BOTH told me after the last fop meeting that we will be getting retro checks. Now if the come out to roll calls and say we are not should I believe either one of them? They should know what they are talking about it's their 3rd contract that they are working on and the reason Shields appointed them as field reps. Mike how did that work out for you?
The article is so slanted to the city's point of view you would have to wonder if Rahm's press office actually wrote it. FOP has a wellness program and we fought over two contracts to get it. But does this article met journalistic standards by verifying any the of these facts? No because Fran Speilman is Chicago’s laziest reporter. Rahm wants us in his so he can make money off of us.
At worst we will get the same as the Sgts. at arbitration and this contract was always going to go to the arbitrator.
I you think this article was not planted by Rahm and on a Friday as always then I guessed you already cashed that overtime check from NATO?
My advice to Shields - do not give anything back and just go to arbitration. Does anyone else get the feeling that this article was planted to help Bill (go along to get along) Dougherty? The timing is very suspicious isn’t it?
I like the bullshit Rahm gave the papers that retiree healthcare is free. The pension board has been taking $515 a month out of my retirement check for free healthcare? And starting January it will be $693. Don't these reporters do their homework before they print this shit?
Anyone see Rahm's brother on The Kelly Files on FoxNews yesterday? That guy looked like the biggest weenie you ever knew in school. You know, the one constantly getting his ass kicked. Being an asshole must be genetic, cause both he and Rahm act the same way. They are both arrogant, narcissistic little men who crave power and couldn't care less about anyone else.
I smell a bug , a blue flue bug maybe for a couple of days , then maybe eyes and negotiaions would open up with appreciation for the hard work we are doing with which mclightbulb / rahm are always so eager to brag to the cameras ,that the crime/murder rates are down in the murder capital of the world
Here's a hint FOP - stop negotiating right now.
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NO
The best thing is to just drag these negotiations as
Lllllllong as possible.
Even 10 fucken years.. that would be 10 years of F-R-E-E heath insurance for age 55 retires.
The contract we have now is fine.
The age 55 free healthcare deal IS DEAD ... we will get exactly the same as the sergeants got.
Just wait til' the economy does a 180 turn .. then an arbitrator would give us fair market.
Sheilds was a sell out from the beginning when he gave Rahm the emerald cuff links right after he got in office.
No contract No activity let this shit hole burn!
I second the motion of "stop negotiating right now. Throw the whole thing to an arbitrator." It'll only end up there anyway, why not expedite the process some?
Though I agree that this is a terrible offer from the city, I don't understand the opposition to the wellness plan. Most of us, myself included could take better care of ourselves, and the rest of the city unions have agreed to it.
Life surely can't be this bad for us. I mean, I see people coming in with arrests, parkers, movers, anov's, tows, impounds, etc.... Oh, I forgot those contact cards. Well done officers, well done. Your hard work is appreciated by Mayor Emanuel.
Mike Shields and the entire board needs to go. All of them. Each and every one of them. It is true that Mike Shields fucked up and didn't send the letter. But nothing in the world stopped any board member from raising hell and writing the letter, printing it out and then telling Mike about it. All of that would take less than ten minutes. Yet they didn't do it. The entire board is just as much as fault as Mike Shields is. Vote all of them out. Then when we have fresh faces, go to the meetings and hold everyone accountable. Otherwise, the shenanigans will continue.
Cost of living raise is usually 3% per year. This would equal 1.66% per year. I'm sure city hall and the aldercreatures are happy with a 1.66% raise.
. . . and 9.5 is just getting warmed up
They want to stick it in both of our ears!
Well that's a nice "f" you to the dept and the men and women in blue who risk their lives everyday. Also a "f" you to the retirees ....what a jagoff.
Teacher union brought city to it's knees by striking . they were also told no money .
Police Officers have a stronger weapon , write every parking , moving traffic violation, tvb all night long, premise checks in every business , write up every violation , ticket every unlicensed food vendor .
city protects business , take them down . citizens will be on 311 complaining about parking , moving violations and waiting for police service while beat car is down on a license investigation or tvb . it worked with a police organization called COP before unions , try it , don't be LAZY or afraid . You cannot be fired for doing your job . Police Officers ENFORCE LAWS passed by POLITICIANS .
The next meeting should run shields out!
Tiny dancer racing back from Mexico for ribbon cutting ceremony for the 80 million dollar Maggie Daley mass trans gun range
Sorry you got screwed, Daley did this to you, you voted for him, Madigan is 19th ward, again that is on you, Cullerton kid has what, 7, 8 DUI cases, all dropped. I do not feel sorry for you. You elected mike shields and the massive lawsuits are just combining to make this a mess. Good luck
If Obamacare is allowed to fully kick in next year, we'll probably be paying double on our Healthcare anyway! I think our entire Country is going to collectively shit itself in 2014 regardless. When does the revolution begin? How many times are these political hacks going to spit in our faces without consequence?!
The offers FOP is getting, were better off at arbitration.
FYI
Blue care Dental (HMO) is
DENTAL NETWORK OF AMERICA
The coverage is the same but they do not give you their real company name in the open enrollment packet. What is the catch? I don't know. When I googled the real real name of the company I saw nothing but poor customer service...I preffer the HMO bargain but I don't know if there is a catch 22?
Rahm does care. The Wellness program is a great benefit for officers. I faithfully sign in every month and read very interesting articles, and they provide healthy recipes. Have a open mind and give it a chance.
Raccoon Eyes is just being who he is. We can't strike...But we can have some good SLOW DOWNS. The only way to get this snakes attention is too let the natives run wild.
Cue the in house fighting
we knew rahm would insult us during negotiations. we have been busting our ass "doing more with less" like they want and so that means they offer us less? that should be taken into account. or how about the fact that the city is out of control dangerous and they figure let's make this job less appealing for these officers and let's take another jab at the already sinking morale of these officers. what an ass-backwards way of doing things.
The Mayor always finds money for every project under the sun, but for First Responders and Educators it's F--k You Very Much.
Karma is a Bitch you Pint Size Ballerina.
This whole chirade is planned.. Mikey WILL be rewarded
for his treason like act of not sendind the letter..
Mark my words!! Planned Chirade!!!
Sargents received 8% with concessions in free retirement health insurance
we will be lucky to receive 6% with no raise in health insurance
One day, they will just tell us that we are not needed.
http://www.infowars.com/congressman-warns-of-obamacare-secret-security-force/
Rep. Louie Gohmert: “I want to know are they are they using weapons to train, or are they being taught to use syringes and health care items?”
Referring to a section of the gargantuan Obamacare law which discusses “the president’s own commissioned and non-commissioned officer corps,” Gohmert drew attention to the notion that under the pretext of a “national emergency,” such individuals could be used to impose some form of medical martial law.
Completely agree, well said SCC! Vote NO for SHIELDS. And for Rahm, Vote NO twice.
hey rahm i saw your brother ethel or what the f his name is on fox news defending obama and obama care. what an arrogant pompous stupid lying piece of sh-t i didnt think there was a bigger a -hole than you. this guy could be the captain of the titanic and would tell everybody dont worry just a little wind turbulance
we need a FOP exorcism.
Rahm will get this offer out in the media so that when we object he'll label us as greedy and unrealistic. He's got plenty of money available to him he just chooses to spend it on frivolous bike lanes etc. instead of offering first responders a fair contract.
I think right now is the perfect time to bring up and get rid of residency. It's not like the city can screw us any more. What will it take for the union to finally bring this issue up and take it to the courts?
Their short sightedness of thinking they'll take a hit if they try to sell their current beverly bungalow is screwing over all the future chicago police officers. Why doesn't the union take a poll and see what the members want??
And the Hair Gels will just keep on jumping thru hoops generating revenue to avoid paying their dues like we all had to when we first got on the job. God forbid you have to work midnights for a few years. Oh, the humanity!!!
Pathetic motherfuckers can't lay off petty arrests in order to impound cars. ANOVs for amounts of weed that wouldn't get a nun stoned. And a variety of other disgusting money grabs in order to stay on some bullshit saturation team or 06 car.
Estimations to the best of my recollection:
Maggie Daley Park - 50+ Million
Malcolm X - 30+ Million
DePaul University Basketball Arena - 20+ Million
Bike Lanes
Proposed River Walk
Proposed Kayaking Stations
Proposed "Basketball College"
Police - the first responders keeping the lid on the whole joint so the shit doesn't overflow and completely saturate what's left of this shithole city??...
A BIG FUCK YOU.
Are we gonna have our NATO cash in time for Xmas? Or are the circus seals gonna slap their fins for some more VRI fish??
Not sure about the rest of you, but if an arbitrator doesn't take all of the in-progress and proposed expenditures and pet projects (not to mention TIF monies) into consideration when it's time to render a fair decision regarding what we DESERVE, I'll never write another ticket, ANOV, burglar alarm citation, etc. for the rest of my time on this miserable job. Unless given a lawful direct order to do so, they can blow me.
Enjoy Tiny Dancers proposed health care increase also, folks. That should be just enough to eat up the 5% proposed wage increase...and then some.
Mike keeps telling us the city isn't negotiating. I'm shocked that Mike once again is telling a lie.
Rahm has money for the Daley "crime family" and DePaul, the bike lanes. The bikes pay no fees at all. No license, no gas tax and no insurance. Now you also have all the illegals that are protected and pay no tax. The honest working person gets the shaft and the other 48% get the benefits. FOP entire board must go, if not don't complain.
When Rahm was running for Mayor he said something along the lines of "Our Police/Firemen are our kids coaches."
I know a lot of coppers & firemen who coach kids. MayB Rahm should demand that we all take a basketball team here, A volleyball team there, one on one speed skating as well. This should B part of the contract that we coach, teach, and give all our free time to this job. No pay, just a demand by Rahm & we'll do whatever the hell he wants us to do.
Also, I wooda expected some training on the various fruits & vegetables that might B harmless to Rahm so we can keep all that man power off his block?
It's an unconventional move: Pension law has long maintained that cutting the benefits of those already retired is off-limits. Current law allows troubled multiemployer plans to reduce the benefits that employees earn going forward, cut early retirement and disability benefits and hike employer contributions instead.
But things have gotten so dire that a coalition of employers and labor unions is asking Congress to change the law.
Just a little part of an article on CNN.com today.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
SCC. It is an offer. You don't blame the Union for what they are offered, only what they accept.
Hey, Dickhead. The only reason the city can offer no retro pay is because the FOP (yes they are all responsible) failed to do it's job and didn't send in that letter on time
Mikey screwed up and we will pay.
Time to make waves. Get the picket signs ready.
11/15/2013 07:40:00 AM
And no marching on city hall or at 35th St. Do it in front of his house. Fuck him.
"All you vets better start thinking how Rahm is trying to screw you in retirement and all you kids better start thinking how Rahm is trying to screw you every which way but loose.
11/15/2013 06:17:00 AM"
Exactly this. There's no "divide and conquer" here because this is bad for everyone.
What a disaster.
"Be careful what you wish for.......because we truly got it "
everybody needs to stop working vri and spec. emp. just long enough for the people and aldercreatures to start screaming for police protection and willing to cave in to what we deserve and earned. we all work two or more jobs for our families and vri is a sweet deal, but we need to make a stand for our future we can't depend on fop to do anything for us, we all need the money for tuitions, mortgages ect,ect, but if we let him get away with this it'll be our fault for letting him. stop working vri and spec. emp. and stop filling those baskets up with tickets and contact cards itwont take long before the balls in our court again, let for once stick together as a team instead of individuals.
Someone needs to go to jail! You fail to put money into our pension but have money for everything else. This city is a joke.
Anonymous said...
Doubling my healthcare contributions means I'm going from $90.16 a pay for the family to $180.32a pay. It sucks, but compared to what is happening to the rest of the country , we shouldn't howl too loud.
Even the talk of receiving a raise would be forgeign to other Americans who have been laid off, hours reduced to part time, and no relief in sight.
Try not to complain about this too loudly when you are looking for your police discount in front of civilians.
Not a cop
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yeah, well notacop, maybe the cost of YOUR healthcare is 90 bucks a month, but it ain't ours. And the majority of us have families, so on average we're going up near 300 bucks a month not the bullshit you claim, so go back to not being a cop pal cause you don't know shit about us or what our problems are just because you read this blog.
What a sad situation that Police officers are so despised by the mayor. .....
well maybe it's time he's shown exactly what the fuck happens when you play tough guy and try and shit on the police.
Even the talk of receiving a raise would be forgeign to other Americans who have been laid off, hours reduced to part time, and no relief in sight.
Try not to complain about this too loudly when you are looking for your police discount in front of civilians.
Not a cop
11/15/2013 07:31:00 AM
Hey not a cop, I m tired of people saying how great we have it compared to the rest of the people who are now unemployed or part time. Before this mess started in 2007 these same people in private sector were making good money, getting nice bonuses and didn t have to live in the city. They also got to watch their children grow, have weekends and holidays off and pretty much know that everyday they would go home to their family.
I m sure under their breath they laugh and said they would never do that job for the little pay we get.
We took this job knowing it wasn t the greatest paying job out there but we also knew it had decent benefits and a promised pension; a pension that we have paid into every paycheck.
Now we had Congressmen Rostenkowski take 2/3 of our SS money we paid into because he said we have a pension and now the State and City wants to diminish that because they did not pay into the pension for 20 yrs and instead threw it at the shitheads for the votes.
SO SORRY IF I FEEL A LITTLE UNAPPRECIATED..
The new contract should have a 'Me Too' clause. Not with the CFD, but with the aldermen who usually vote themselves a big raise after the police contract is law.
Good for you Mikey Shields. You screwed over you're brothers and sisters in blue while making Deputy Chief's pay. How proud you must be!!!! Congrats you're the biggest moron in the history of the CPD. Can't wait to see you in a squad car.
The beatings will continue until moral improves!
So, let me get this right. The Mayor wants police officers, who give their lives to the citizens of chicago, to pay more for health care, while at the same time getting basically no raise or retro pay? What a slap in the face! Take a walk through police headquarters and look at all the stars on the wall of the fallen you asshole, Rahm!
Rahm is an evil, venal, treacherous little F**k!
Funny how Mikey dumps Bill Dougherty who is back in 022 and all of a sudden Rahm moves in for the kill. So one has to ask: was this dump orchestrated by Mikey for a cushy job down the road? Say what you want about Bill, but he's the only one there who knows how to negotiate with some sense of professionalism.
Please. Bill can't count to 10 with shoes on.
Anonymous said...
Teacher union brought city to it's knees by striking . they were also told no money .
Police Officers have a stronger weapon , write every parking , moving traffic violation, tvb all night long, premise checks in every business , write up every violation , ticket every unlicensed food vendor .
city protects business , take them down . citizens will be on 311 complaining about parking , moving violations and waiting for police service while beat car is down on a license investigation or tvb . it worked with a police organization called COP before unions , try it , don't be LAZY or afraid . You cannot be fired for doing your job . Police Officers ENFORCE LAWS passed by POLITICIANS .
11/15/2013 11:52:00 AM
I like your idea brother. Also, the citizens can't get pissed with us because we are simply following the rules that the POLITICIANS passed in the first place. Go talk to the POLITICIANS.
This whole chirade is planned.. Mikey WILL be rewarded
for his treason like act of not sendind the letter..
Mark my words!! Planned Chirade!!!
11/15/2013 01:51:00 PM
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I totally agree. The FOP prez will end up in a political clout job. I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up being a stye rep or something similar.
Also,
I want to be the first to apologize to my fellow members. I bought into the hype and I felt Bella was disinguaged but I was wrong. I'm sorry I voted for the guy. However, I'll be the first to fight to get rid of Shields and the rest of the board
The bin that holds the parkers, movers and anovs is full. Full to the brim. The bin that holds tows and impounds is filled to the brim also. If that doesn't say something I don't know what will. Obviously we are a happy bunch and we understand the mayor's perspective. Thank you sir, may I have another! Thank you sir, may I have another!
It was a mistake to dump Dougherty. Bill is a decent and honest guy and has served us well. His lapse in judgement to question the officer about who he is supporting was a mistake or just bad timing, as I am sure Bill regrets, but his intent has always been to serve the member. Unfortunately now, that officer will probably not be reinstated full duty because this story was advertised for everyone to read and now we are without some decent representation in Bill Dougherty. And no it's not Bill writing this.
Every Contract...Every Mayor Since Daley started....SSDD
And yet....we still fight over the street cleaning and rush hour and protection details for these F*ks.
This 'offer' from The Cannon Cleaning Tutu is reason enough to decline VRI or any other extras they 'throw to the masses" so they don't have to actually hire to surpass the Retirements and Medicals.
Now I know some use VRI and etc to get ahead on the bills or w/e...
There are enough Side Gig's available out there that will happily pay a Cop 15-20 per hour.
Just ask the PO that follows UPS around all day on Madison/Pulaski.
Here's a thought for you Mikey..
5% over 3 years and No Retro?
Okay...I'll go for that...
IF!!!
Remove Residency Requirements.
Stick that Wellness program into the Trash.
No increase to retirees or OTJ healthcare.
Anonymous said...
Even the talk of receiving a raise would be forgeign to other Americans who have been laid off, hours reduced to part time, and no relief in sight.
Try not to complain about this too loudly when you are looking for your police discount in front of civilians.
Not a cop
11/15/2013 07:31:00 AM
Hey pal..
FYI....there is no such thing as a police discount. I don't know a single Honest Copper that has ever ASKED for it.
If it's offered without a request, I wouldn't turn it down.
But we are not allowed to solicit any sort of discount Per City Policy.
So F off and go back to the 5th Floor you Obvious Troll.
So after inflation we will be earning less than what we are earning now? Sounds great! KMA
He just found 8.5 million in tax breaks to keep the Cubs in town. Give that towards a new contract and tell the CUbs to pay their property tax.
To: 11/15/2013 11:28:00 AM
Hey, dickhead when your partner tells you he will do or has done something I assume you trust that he did it.
Same applies here. He told the membership at a February 2012 he was sending the letter. Why would anyone have doubted that he would have done it at that time?
It's not anyone's fault but that lying scumbag, Shields.
The FOP should RUN to the Chicago Teachers Union and get some of their leaders to help us. Pay them for their services. They are FAR SUPERIOR to our labor leaders.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
It is so shameful that a city would treat those who risk their life on a daily basis to keep us safe as this fucked up town does. We're used to the powers that think they be sticking it to the sheeple, but this is FUBAR.
--No Cop Here
11/15/2013 06:17:00 AM
Fubar: fucked up but all right.
Just WHAT about this is all right?
All you coppers keep working that overtime ... Greed gets you this...keep working ....
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Someone needs to go to jail! You fail to put money into our pension but have money for everything else. This city is a joke.
11/15/2013 03:58:00 PM
No, it's a fiefdom and the little emperor thinks the serfs should just roll over and accept the crumbs he deigns to toss at them.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Rahm does care. The Wellness program is a great benefit for officers. I faithfully sign in every month and read very interesting articles, and they provide healthy recipes. Have a open mind and give it a chance.
11/15/2013 01:14:00 PM
Yes, and you badly need a psych evaluation.
Rahm does care. The Wellness program is a great benefit for officers. I faithfully sign in every month and read very interesting articles, and they provide healthy recipes. Have a open mind and give it a chance.
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I go to my regular real doctor and gives me medical advice and how to stay well and I take the power test each year. I think the wellness plan is a huge scam. Why can't be incorporated into the regular insurance. Why does the City not pay for birth control? This improves my wifes' wellness. Remember, the City exempted itself from many of the good and often "costly" portions of the ObamaCare as a "pre-existing plan".
Our health and skyrocketing health care cost can not be the only reason for health plan. Does Walgreen or someone not get the contract for all this?
And not a cop! I could work in the private sector and make a shitload more money than you and what I am making now. I choose this job. I don't have to work here. My wife works at law firm and gets bonus, employee profit sharing, employee stock options, a 401k, free parking, free meals, free cabs rides for working late, direct contribution plan, free health care, a locker, and decent place to go to the bathroom. Her office building does not look like it is going to fall down, stinks, and the equipment actually works. She is not even a partner yet. So fuck off!
I have three degrees and only one is in criminal justice. Any hourly job like are job in the private sector with the commitment, training required, and work patterns would come with a huge compensation package.
So fuck off again.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Where can I get a card to bring PBPA in as our union?
It is now perfectly clear - they are the only union in this city that knows what it is doing.
11/15/2013 09:58:00 AM
And they treat us like adults when we phone them to ask a question, which is a nice change from FOP.
Why does it take soo long to settle a contract?
slightly off topic; I'm retired now but for thirty years I tried to get people to go to union meetings, very few ever did. Its YOUR union you have to drive it by being at meetings and electing representatives that will work for YOU. Take the anger you feel now and use it to motivate you, go to meetings and become involved. That's the only way things will get better.
Raise residency and I will gladly take the 2% in healthcare costs as well as the menial raise. New hires have to abide by current residency requirement, but after 10YOJ you can move. Keep up with hiring and a system similar to that may work without compromising Edison park, mt grn, Beverly etc.
I thought democrats were "The Party of the Middle Class". I just saw that big labor such as the AFL-CIO, N.E.A. and the S.E.I.U. funnel billions of dollars into democrat coffers. What do we get for this money? Socialism, class-envy,further confiscation of personal wealth through taxes, a failed takeover of 1/6 of the economy through nationalized healthcare and a greater burden on the nine to fivers. And by the way Rahm, you are the villified 1%.
We should hire Karen Lewis. She bent the tiny dancer over and did it again.
QUIT WRITING tickets.
Oh, and I did want to point out that certain 'leaders' use alias names like obama and emanuel. Why is that? Are they hiding something? Just saying.......
How the hell could anyone have "high hopes" for Mike. He has no experience in running anything, no experience managing anything, and especially no experience in labor negotiations.
He was voted in on the same premise as Obama...hope and change and something new without regard to qualifications.
There's a lot of reference to "sheeple" on this blog. How is the membership voting for Mike instead of an experienced team any different than the "sheeple" voting for Obama...it is not. Voting for Mike with a mayor of Rahm's ilk in office is no different than voting in a "community organizer" at a time when the country is facing it's most significant challenges in decades.
The degradation of intellect is no better or worse in the CPD than it is in the general population and no less sad and disgusting.
Enough with the kid stuff. Time to call Karen Lewis for some REAL negotiations.
Even the talk of receiving a raise would be forgeign to other Americans who have been laid off, hours reduced to part time, and no relief in sight.
Try not to complain about this too loudly when you are looking for your police discount in front of civilians.
Not a cop
try not getting shot at while at work..fuck you pussy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So Mike and Dan, after this contract I wound have enough to buy a happy meal.
Stunned, huh? Me too!
SCC, check out Chicago's Finest on Facebook. FOPs Recording Secretary Sid Davis's website. Sid calls SCC a Bozo because of this thread. Sid says SCC doesn't know how negotiations work. Sid also posted on his site Tuesdays union meeting is at 1900 hours when it is really at noon. Is he hoping we won't show and they won't have to face the music or is he the real Bozo?
Well I hope you guys are happy you voted for Mikey !!! What were you thinking ????
"No retro---No deal.....let the arbitration begin......even they will acknowledge "past practice" in terms of retro."
Retro will not be part of interest arbitration. The contract rolled over another year by operation of law, it is not a matter to be decided in arbitration. How you guys continue to pay Paul Geiger as general counsel after this fuck up is beyond me. He, of all people, should have known the importance of getting in the letter. The FOP membership deserves everything it gets.
If there is one bright spot in Rahm getting elected mayor, it is that after seeing what an enormous asshole he is, he should be unelectable to any national office. Chris Christie for president!!
Mike Sheilds did send the letter on time.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-offduty-cop-who-called-in-fake-bar-fight-gets-2-years-probation-20131115,0,7101339.story
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Oops, Nevermind,
Wrong Letter Sent On-Time!
Six current or former police officers wrote letters supporting Dailey, including retired deputy chief Michael Patton as well as Fraternal Order of Police president Michael Shields, who wrote that Dailey has “a good heart” and is “a loyal and good person.”
“I have known Sean for 17 years and he comes from a very good family,” Shields wrote before the sentencing.
Correct , you should ask for arbitration immediately ! fLOP Mikey Mouse is hated by MLAS an cIty Hall - FLOP Mickey does not know how to negotiate anything ! He is to young and too stupid ! The City will fight just because they despise Mickey Mouse !
As far as health care coverage doubling - Mickey was told this over a year ago ! It is because te FLOP was te only bargaining unit not to go into the Wellness plan! He was warned!! The wellness plan was too keep insurance costs down ! Well now the FLOP will have to pay the price !
I hope Mickey Mouse enjoys midnights in 11!
Also all sergeants in the auxiliary FLOp expected not to renew membership (that's 60 bucks a Sgt) so anticipate your union dues to rise as well !
Remember , you are getting no retro - pay so the city can drag out contract negotiations as long as they want !! Demand arbitration now !
O'Hare is getting a great sergeant Sunday.
You will be missed KP.
Teacher union brought city to it's knees by striking . they were also told no money .
Police Officers have a stronger weapon , write every parking , moving traffic violation, tvb all night long, premise checks in every business , write up every violation , ticket every unlicensed food vendor .
city protects business , take them down . citizens will be on 311 complaining about parking , moving violations and waiting for police service while beat car is down on a license investigation or tvb . it worked with a police organization called COP before unions , try it , don't be LAZY or afraid . You cannot be fired for doing your job . Police Officers ENFORCE LAWS passed by POLITICIANS
You gotta be kidding me.... This mayor would love all the revenue, and he would just blame us for it being jerks anyway... wise up
Anonymous said...
Yeah, Mike is a lying jagoff, but blame the entire FOP Board? Why? He and he alone fucked this up.
He was told to send the demand letter. Aguilar claims he told him. Donahue claims he told him. His supposedly disgruntled secretary claims she told him. And, oh yeah, he lied to the membership at a February 21, 2012 meeting when he told them he was going to send the letter by March 1st. He then lied to the Board about it this year claiming he didn't know about the deadline. He lied to the membership at a meeting again recently when he apologized and claimed the same thing.
I don't see how anyone can hold the FOP Board accountable unless they expected someone to put a gun to his head and walk him to a fucking mailbox.
11/15/2013 06:20:00 AM
Because they are also responsible in that each and every one of them knew the ramifications of not sending the letter. They should have all marched into that idiot's office and said, "WHERE'S THE LETTER LITTLE HOBBIT"?
The entire FOP needs to be replaced..Adios Amigos. Will be great to see each and every one of you in a beat car again.
I think right now is the perfect time to bring up and get rid of residency. It's not like the city can screw us any more. What will it take for the union to finally bring this issue up and take it to the courts?
Their short sightedness of thinking they'll take a hit if they try to sell their current beverly bungalow is screwing over all the future chicago police officers. Why doesn't the union take a poll and see what the members want??
11/15/2013 02:37:00 PM
Hey newbie. Do you think everything began when you got on the job? Residency has been a hot button issue for 50+ years, but the city has all the cards when it comes to residency. Do your homework and you will not make a fool out of yourself the next time you write about the subject.
I'm so tired of these ignorant assholes making comments about how "in the private sector people got laid off, have to pay higher health premiums blah, blah, blah". Well guess what. I DON'T WORK IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR. Sucks that you do, but you could have taken the police test too. I took this job knowing that I could DIE doing it. I was guaranteed certain benefits to balance that risk. Comparing the private sector and the police department is comparing apples and oranges. So quit fucking preaching about the private sector. I don't work in it and am sick to death of hearing the comparisons. If you're so unhappy with the private sector drama, take the damn police test and keep your mouth shut in the mean time.
So, let me get this right. The Mayor wants police officers, who give their lives to the citizens of chicago, to pay more for health care, while at the same time getting basically no raise or retro pay? What a slap in the face! Take a walk through police headquarters and look at all the stars on the wall of the fallen you asshole, Rahm!
11/15/2013 04:21:00 PM
dont you dare use the fallen officers and the stars on the wall to try to prove a point for a contract. Dont you ever use the fallen as a "bargaining chip" or a battle cry to get a decent contract. fighting for a contract is one thing, braining those have died on this job is another thing. Using that is tasteless and pathetic. Its bigger than you and your contract...
My mayor fix your office.
What exactly is the Dept doing with the amount of savings generated by a 4,000 man shortage? If this isn't brought to the table for an Arbitrator to decide we are idiots.
Anonymous said...
This is BULLSHIT!!! Everyone needs to stop working special and VRI for as long as it takes to get our message across. Give it two months and I guarantee Rahm will be coming to us and asking what do we want.
Never happen. There are too many one way motherfuckers on the job.
Right Thanks Shields Cappareli
This is what you get for electing a hairgel from a family of Democratic ass kissers...
Shields = LOYAL servants of the Crook County DemocRats!
No retro, no raise, weakened contract!
Should have voted for Greg!
We have let the fox in the hen house by electing Shields.
Even the hairgels are now awake, a little late but better than never.
Does anyone remember that fat fuck Dan Shields strutting around 014 with all his fake ribbons, war stories and Daddy's clout?
I knew that this guy was a POS almost 20 years ago. The only thing I failed to realize was how BIG of a POS this guy really is.
All CPD unions should combine under the PBPA and confront the evil tyrant as one collective, united force.
They used to say that Dineen, Nolan and Donahue were sellouts. I don't think that they even came within a mile of Shields and his sellout crew.
This is absolutely devastating. We have to purge the FOP!
Heard 2 people laughing about nailing people with Parker's at check off. You are both morons and should be ashamed to play into Rahms hands. Rahm has declared war on civility and you have sided with him you idiots.
We as first Responders should get at LEAST what the Teachers got...at LEAST.
The Wellness Program is no big deal. They don't even read what you enter in the online journal, and you get credit for just liking articles or recipes.
Agree Dan Shields is the biggest know it all bullshiter on earth.
If you want guys to stop doing VRI you need to strong arm them like real unions do.
First, make a bylaw that says you'll be fined by the union if you work special or VRI. The fine would be $100 or so every day you work it. Don't pay- you're kicked out of the FOP.
Second, picket the VRI locations (011th, Racine) and make the scabs walk past us as we mother fuck them. Then we video the protest And put the mother fuckers faces on our website do everyone can see them (yes, another bylaw saying to be a member of FOP we can use your image). Fuck covert spots, look- you can't have it both ways. The only guys that would say no would be the whores looking to work VRI.
We may not be able to strike but we can twist our own member's arms.
If this strategy stopped 75% of people from working VRI we might be able to get something accomplished.
Now, before you rip this idea let's explore and tweak it and try getting it going.
I like VRI.
I will keep working for me.
I like me.
And I like Shields too.
This is all BS. Rahm leaked a story to,his favorite media hack, and you guys all go nuts! Rahm probably reads this nonsense, and laughs his head off. This contract, like almost every other contract, is going to arbitration. Ray Charles could have seen this coming, a long time ago. The sooner we file for arbitration, the better. Tell Rahm that we are tired of his BS!
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The supt is livid that Goreman and OGrady both dropped tier papers for the end of Nov. Goreman to Amtrak and ogrady to Harwood Hts as the chief. 10 other exempts interviewed for various local Chief jobs. I guess everyone is getting tired of The Supe listening to that egg head Wysinger.
Hey Mikey-
That Sergeant's contract is looking better and better all the time, don't you think !
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Better and better? Plienes tried to sell out all of our pensions, failed, then got a way below average wage increase for the doofus sergeants. oh yeah, he got us a 0% in our last contract, too.
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