Car Chase Casualty
- An 11-year-old South Side boy, on his way to get a Christmas haircut with his father and older brother, was killed Saturday when a carjacked vehicle being chased by the police crashed into them in Englewood.
“He took our angel from us,” Annette Turnage, 51, said of the carjacker, who got away.
- Around 12:30 p.m. Saturday, officers on patrol saw an armed carjacking in the 5000 block of South Princeton Avenue and drove off after the stolen vehicle, until it crashed into the Turnages’ Suburban near Garfield Boulevard and Halsted Street, according to the police.
Hopefully, this guy is apprehended for the murder. Expect blame to be laid at the Department's doorstep shortly.
Labels: crime
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
66 Comments:
Bullwinkle....I'm worried
Wow, very sad. I can only imagine if that was me riding with my child and he was taken from me by some thug who just carjacked someone. I would be devastated. I don't second guess the choice the po's made that night, but my personal policy is a no chase policy unless they just shot an officer or committed a murder. The risk of a any innocent person dying as a result of my actions is not worth it to me.
why grab'em or even try if this is how they live?
At this point, the report is all anybody really needs in order to 'provide service.'
Get a description, grab them another time. The risk of collateral damage is just too great when you're trying to cage a beast... and for what?
Seriously, for what? I know it isn't for an award, it isn't for kudos from the dept. from bosses, or from the community.
You do it to get a bad guy off the street, right? Except there are another 10,000 still out running and gunning because the city and the dept. (and the nation as a whole), has already trained those animals to think it's better to elude because the police aren't supposed to chase!
Don't you get it yet? You're being set up!
And you know anyone captured gets away at trial by the judge, by Dart and Preckwinkle at County, or by Quinn at his revolving door state prison system.
Don't do it! Or you become the bad guy!
What planet are you on that you don't see what's happening?
It isn't just them going after your salary, your benefits, your pension, or your security and seniority...
They are eating away at the floor beneath your feet. You don't have a foundation anymore to go after bad guys. Not as long as you are the bad guy, stupid. You, and your family, and your fellow officers...that's it. That's all that matters.
Termination given.. Major screw up by the bosses on that. Should have never been terminated after the kid died
Police car chases have been shown to end badly for innocent bystanders. It's better to follow from a distance in stealth mode, and get a police chopper to shadow until it is safe to move in. Even low speed chases, like the infamous low speed Bronco chase out in LA can be hazardous. Better to be safe, it saves innocent lives.
Law suit with punitive damages commencing in 3... 2... 1...
It's always "WHY did the Police chase him?"
It's never "Asshole running from The Police."
This city is lost.
The Police are the enemy because of it.
Not that they're to blame for any of this.
You have that right. No chasing. Now a kid is dead.
who was the dumbass lt that called it off at 63rd & western
"An 11-year-old South Side boy, on his way to get a Christmas haircut with his father"
This kid may of had a chance in life!
No worries The white shirts in 007 will save you from that law suit......LOL...
Termination given.. Major screw up by the bosses on that. Should have never been terminated after the kid died
12/22/2013 01:18:00 AM
Motor vehicle crash with probability of personal injury, its an automatic termination. I hope you are not a supervisor, if not I do not fear you will test well enough to become one. However, you seem to be a perfect merit candidate!
How about the commander of 009 and the lt from an outside unit for calling off the chase. How do you feel? They should be held accountable.
So sorry for the loss of that young man.
Why does the media always have to spin it as a 'police chase' was the cause?
They don't even mention an offender.
"A carjacked vehicle"
What about the now forcible felon, with a gun that committed a felony then sped off recklessly with the victims stolen property from the scene to avoid apprehension.
A paper saving measure I guess.
Why was this kid not secured in a restraint system? Rockie Douglas isn't going down easy boys. Keep an eye for him.
I hope they catch this guy...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
why grab'em or even try if this is how they live?
At this point, the report is all anybody really needs in order to 'provide service.'
Get a description, grab them another time. The risk of collateral damage is just too great when you're trying to cage a beast... and for what?
Seriously, for what? I know it isn't for an award, it isn't for kudos from the dept. from bosses, or from the community.
You do it to get a bad guy off the street, right? Except there are another 10,000 still out running and gunning because the city and the dept. (and the nation as a whole), has already trained those animals to think it's better to elude because the police aren't supposed to chase!
Don't you get it yet? You're being set up!
And you know anyone captured gets away at trial by the judge, by Dart and Preckwinkle at County, or by Quinn at his revolving door state prison system.
Don't do it! Or you become the bad guy!
What planet are you on that you don't see what's happening?
It isn't just them going after your salary, your benefits, your pension, or your security and seniority...
They are eating away at the floor beneath your feet. You don't have a foundation anymore to go after bad guys. Not as long as you are the bad guy, stupid. You, and your family, and your fellow officers...that's it. That's all that matters.
12/22/2013 12:48:00 AM
Didn't take long for some Monday morning quarterback to jump in and put his two cents in while not being there and not having a fucking clue.
We get it pal, don't do anything for this job, the city is not behind us and we are going to get sued for shit we shouldn't!
The unfortunate thing is that that is part of the job and this is our job to take pieces of shit like this off the street last time I checked.
You can be a dog ass all you want, you can just respond to jobs, cut paper and hide out all day, I am not judging you for that and yes if that is what you choose to do then so be it, but don't sit here on your fucking high horse and judge these coppers for doing there job!
You ask "What planet are you on that you don't see what's happening?" What fucking planet are you on judging fellow coppers for making a decision to chase a fucking carjacker who later went on to kill someone and carjack several other cars?
I work with these guys and got to here from their mouths what happened yesterday, but these are good policemen and I am not gonna sit here and have somebody Monday morning Quarterback the incident, you are no better than the liberal media for that.
Having been sued several times for bullshit over the years I understand the implications of our actions both right and wrong on this job and I realize the city doesn't give a fuck about us, but to chastise fellow coppers for doing their job, that's right doing their job!, that just ain't right.
who was the dumbass lt that called it off at 63rd & western
12/22/2013 03:34:00 AM
Anonymous said...
6792-GED lt. Then 700 overruled him, but bad guy was in the wind. Thanks lt, were any of your cars involved? Or did you just want to hear yourself on the radio.
I hate to say it but if this young man had been properly seat belted he might not have been ejected from the suv.
Ah yes…good old felony murder. ANOTHER charge the liberals HATE. (see above post for the same on conspiracy to commit murder). The academics and liberals have been clamoring to get felony murder off the books for some time. And since Anita falls in line with…well..the liberals…look for these types of charges to be more along the reckless homicide than murder.
Anonymous said...
Termination given.. Major screw up by the bosses on that. Should have never been terminated after the kid died
12/22/2013 01:18:00 AM
Major screw up? It's No wonder your not a boss. Have u ever read the chase order. It is automatically terminated if any of the vehicles is involved in an accident which likely caused an injury. I'd say they made the absolute right call on that one.
But it's great how people love to come on here and slam a boss for following the orders. Of course it's not any of the blue shirts fault at all that were actually doing the chasing, right? it's the white shirts fault.
You're just as bad as dude on the street that right away wants to blame everyone but themselves.
Accident during chase requires immediate termination according to General order. Yea I'm an asshole boss, but this whole thing is bad. Adjust your behavior accordingly it's not the 1900's when we were allowed to do this.
So now all the coppers get sued and the police dept and we have a dead child. It is NOT good for anyone involved. Don't Chase, very simple. BAD for everyone. Bad guy today is a bad guy tomorrow and he will eventually be caught for something else when he doesn't have wheels around.
What no one in the public arena or news media understands is that calling off even the shortest of chases affects only the police and not the offender.
The 1st yellow paper I ever had to drop was because of a brief chase. Dude was N/B on Vincennes, and I turned west on 41st when the chase was terminated. Pull up to King Dr., look to the N and see a giant cloud of dust and debris exploding @ Oakwood Blvd. Dude didn't know the chase was called off and broadsides a car while still fleeing like a bat out of Hell. Got called to the carpet for not obeying the good Sgt's order. In retrospect, my real mistake was threefold.
1. Even calling in the chase.
2. Calling in the accident.
3. Not turning left.
Make that 4.
Should have asked for travel time and gone to Lem's and gotten some rib tips and hot links. Best BBQ around.
Gotta keep the strength up and also support the local businesses.
How tragic. Before too much blamed is laid on the police lets not forget it was the asshole who committed the carjacking and then crashed into the kids vehicle who caused the whole thing.
12:48 am, so right you are--- officers witness a class x felony happen right in front of them and initiate a pursuit--- the hardest thing to do is take your foot off the gas and pull over to the side of the road--- given the current political climate in this town and the failure of the administrative arm of the department to back it's officers, you are crazy to chase anyone--- our thoughts and prayers go out to this child's family...
If the police didn't chase, then someone would ask why they didn't when the felon strikes again and possibly kills someone else.
To the family of the 11 year old, nobody understands your grief unless they experienced it themselves. Our hearts go out to you.
How was this individual able to jack
three vehicles, evade the Police,
wind-up in Oakbrook, and escape on foot ?
please stop the monday morning QB this animal went on to commit more VIOLENT felonies the PO's are NOT to blame, let the fault lay were it belongs with the OFFENDER
Terrible tragedy. No doubt about it. But if not caught this animal will do it again. But let's share the responsibility. If the "father" had been a real father that kid would have been belted in. Not that bad of an accident. ALL would be alive if laws were followed and common sense had been part of this equation. However, the blame will fall on the poor police officers who were trying to get this animal and prevent another crime. Too many blacks and browns in jail? Let's start getting the communnities of the blacks and browns to quit committing crimes. County jail would then have a lot less incarcerated and fewer of these tragedies would occur.
Police car chases have been shown to end badly for innocent bystanders. It's better to follow from a distance in stealth mode, and get a police chopper to shadow until it is safe to move in. Even low speed chases, like the infamous low speed Bronco chase out in LA can be hazardous. Better to be safe, it saves innocent lives.
12/22/2013 01:25:00 AM
Another guy that watches too much TV.
We sit around and guess how many crimes an offender has committed before we came into contact with him (that's not counting a conviction). I've always heard about ten serious ones per arrest. There is no real evidence either way, no matter how important politicians will tell you statistics are. You can see how invested we are in catching the bad guy when we have them in our sites.
This is one of the hardest calls we make. Call it off and you may have let a very bad person go. A person that will inflict pain and suffering on many. Chase and an innocent may be harmed.
It's easy to say let them all go, until you or a loved one is his next victim. That whole bit about 'get a description and get them later' isn't realistic. It's really get them now or never. The lawyers have made it so.
Love the idiot media fools on this terrible incident. Every time they interviewed someone for the news feed they asked each person several times, "were the police chasing the car?" Aholes!
Obama's lawyer friends are licking their chops on this one.
Anonymous said...
who was the dumbass lt that called it off at 63rd & western
12/22/2013 03:34:00 AM
Maybe that's why it was called off dumbass. Ever think the lt. Didn't trust some asswipe po with 2 yrs on chasing a vehicle that was taken fron englewood? Who gives a shit. The po will now learn the hard way when they come after his assets.
Not second guessing anyone, but the hyjacker was committing the crime with a gun. Sad that an innocent kid is dead. I don't know that I would chase.
Hey 0048, go pound sand. If I could withdraw my .02 from contributing to your pension, I would.
You're probably the guy who bitches when the animal ends up in your neighborhood and the police "do nothing".
Anonymous said...
who was the dumbass lt that called it off at 63rd & western
12/22/2013 03:34:00 AM
You second guess a su[supervisor who makes a decision? Yes we could have continued, but what happens if he kills someone else? Will you be there to tell the parent. AND i AM A POLICEMAN. There is no shame in self terminating.
@ 12/22/2013 01:30:00 AM
'It's always "WHY did the Police chase him?"
It's never "Asshole running from The Police."'
Either/or fallacy. There was an asshole running from the police, and the asshole always deserves the lion's share of the blame. Stealth mode is better than hot pursuit because your job is to protect the innocent civilians.
Many moons ago, I almost got killed by an asshole in the Vogue Cleaners parking lot (alley behind Touhy & Washtenaw) because Skokie's finest decided to play Starsky & Hutch with the asshole that day. In friggin' West Rogers Park.
And the cleaners broke the buttons on my dress shirts.
why grab'em or even try if this is how they live?
At this point, the report is all anybody really needs in order to 'provide service.'
Get a description, grab them another time. The risk of collateral damage is just too great when you're trying to cage a beast... and for what?
Seriously, for what? I know it isn't for an award, it isn't for kudos from the dept. from bosses, or from the community.
You do it to get a bad guy off the street, right? Except there are another 10,000 still out running and gunning because the city and the dept. (and the nation as a whole), has already trained those animals to think it's better to elude because the police aren't supposed to chase!
Don't you get it yet? You're being set up!
And you know anyone captured gets away at trial by the judge, by Dart and Preckwinkle at County, or by Quinn at his revolving door state prison system.
Don't do it! Or you become the bad guy!
What planet are you on that you don't see what's happening?
It isn't just them going after your salary, your benefits, your pension, or your security and seniority...
They are eating away at the floor beneath your feet. You don't have a foundation anymore to go after bad guys. Not as long as you are the bad guy, stupid. You, and your family, and your fellow officers...that's it. That's all that matters.
**************************
One simple word describes you as a police officer and as a person.... Coward. What makes you so special to have a job and get a good paycheck with benefits to where you think you don't need to work? You have a job so do it. If an office worker or construction worker had you attituide and did nothing he would be fired. Get off your high horse you a&$hole. What makes you so much better than everyone else... I'll tell you the truth about your rant.. Everything you wrote above are excuses for you being lazy and a coward.. It's thy simple... Next time save us the time and just call it what it is and save the rant
C. The continuation of a motor vehicle pursuit is prohibited whenever:
1. a pursued vehicle or pursuing Department vehicle is involved in any traffic crash in which there is a probability of personal injury.
If cops have to engage in car chases, the slow speed O.J. Simpson variety are best and safest.
There is no evidence that offenders stop driving like assh**** after the police are terminated or self-terminated. I personally have been terminated and have seen an offender still driving like assh**** even with not police around them. The guy actually came back around and drove thru our termination point like an assh***... with no police behind him.
Also I was on the eway when a car was driving all crazy like 90+ ...it just fled from the police. The police were terminated. No police in sight and was still driving like an assh***. Just because you terminate does not mean that the sh*thead will stop, slow down or not run red lights.
I've seen it with my own eyes. Stop second guessing these coppers. This guy carjacked someone. Its not some bulls**t. Then after he hit someone he runs and highjacks another person. This is a sh*thead that doesn't need to be on the street. There will come a day when this sh*thead thinks "I got away with X. I can do it again." and he goes out and kills a cop or a family member. Is that when you will start to give a f*ck? I understand the judges and asas all suck but that is no excuse. Either do what your suppose to do or be a TMA.
You can never go wrong in terminating a chase especially when the G.O. states you have to when PI is involved.
Been on 20 yrs. Lots of fun, but dangerous. Those days are gone.
Lose the passion and just do your job like a robot. You"ll safe guard yourself from jail, firing, punitive damages or all the above.
Nothing like the clueless Lt Darlin to call it off. Hey Randy you will never get your gold star cause your a goof! Who is way in over his head as a Lt. Now go cry some more that you never made dick.
You guys got your facts a little "jacked" up. To the best of my knowledge the following happen or closely resembles what happened.
009 is in a pursuit of an auto wanted for carjacking. The offender gets stuck in traffic and carjacks another auto, by firearm, and hits the kids vehicle. The off. gets away after driving the wrong way on the Ryan.
About 1-2 hours later Oak Lawn or Burbank gets on the air and states that they just had 2 armed robberies and the offender is the same one that escaped earlier.
Now we have a bad guy wanted for 2 carjackings, two more armed robberies and murder.
A 008 copper see's the wanted vehicle on Cicero and the offender flees, the chase is on. The officer calmly called in the pursuit which was being monitored by the entire southside.(007,008,009,010,002,006,022, State Police, Burbank, Oak lawn, citywide) The chase lasted about ten minutes, and went into 009 for only 10 seconds when you hear 999 terminate the chase. The officer immediately pulled over and ended the pursuit.
Still don't understand why the termination, 009 wasn't even involved. The offender was without a doubt going to be captured, the 008 officer was right on him and there was help coming from everywhere.
3 minutes later Ric Flair gets on the air and stated, "maybe we need to chase this guy, he must be captured." NO SHIT. It was as good as over and we blew it.
Anyway, they offender escsapes, carjacks another auto at 294 and 88th ave and gets away.
@ 12/22/2013 02:52:00 PM
YOU'RE the coward!
You won't say or do a fucking thing to take a stand and support/defend Policemen when these chases go south like this.
You're the first sanctimonious, holier-than-thou asshole sawing wood to crucify a Copper when something awful happens to and innocent because an ASSHOLE opted to flee!
You conveniently FORGOT about THE ASSHOLE who caused this?
You're no better than the dog who did this if you think Policemen are wrong for feeling like the poster you slammed.
May you need and not have in the worst possible way one day...
Get off YOUR high horse you willfully ignorant ASSHOLE, and stop groping in the dark for silly shit to support your lazy-assed argument.
Kiss an ass with your construction worker/office worker comparison.
Hey the wanted asshole is white but, does it really matter. The offender caused a car accident not the police because it is his actions that caused the chain of events. The boy should have been wearing a seat belt. Never the less this offender is still at large. This was a dangerous person as he went to the suburbs and continued his crime spree. As for anonymous asshole quoting chase policy SHUT THE FUCK UP!
The helicopter wasn't up and running that day. We requested it then we would have never lost him and caught him. I due believe it would have ended in a shootout.
why grab'em or even try if this is how they live?
At this point, the report is all anybody really needs in order to 'provide service.'
Get a description, grab them another time. The risk of collateral damage is just too great when you're trying to cage a beast... and for what?
Seriously, for what? I know it isn't for an award, it isn't for kudos from the dept. from bosses, or from the community.
You do it to get a bad guy off the street, right? Except there are another 10,000 still out running and gunning because the city and the dept. (and the nation as a whole), has already trained those animals to think it's better to elude because the police aren't supposed to chase!
Don't you get it yet? You're being set up!
And you know anyone captured gets away at trial by the judge, by Dart and Preckwinkle at County, or by Quinn at his revolving door state prison system.
Don't do it! Or you become the bad guy!
What planet are you on that you don't see what's happening?
It isn't just them going after your salary, your benefits, your pension, or your security and seniority...
They are eating away at the floor beneath your feet. You don't have a foundation anymore to go after bad guys. Not as long as you are the bad guy, stupid. You, and your family, and your fellow officers...that's it. That's all that matters.
**************************
One simple word describes you as a police officer and as a person.... Coward. What makes you so special to have a job and get a good paycheck with benefits to where you think you don't need to work? You have a job so do it. If an office worker or construction worker had you attituide and did nothing he would be fired. Get off your high horse you a&$hole. What makes you so much better than everyone else... I'll tell you the truth about your rant.. Everything you wrote above are excuses for you being lazy and a coward.. It's thy simple... Next time save us the time and just call it what it is and save the rant
Wow a coward! Wtf! Nope I have 28 years on been sued to much the boss that called off the base was correct. You above talk about your paycheck! Doing stupid shit like chases jeopardize your family and lively hood! It was extremely stupid to chase look at all the damage and now a dead child! The offender obviously watched to much fast and furious and was a superior driver and he escaped! He is a felon and will be caught bottom line don't chase when called off by a supervisor with brains unlike Leo who wanted chase continued lets see when the coppers are individually sued how Leo stands by them!
The only way a chase ends is if the offender stops, the car runs out of gas or it crashes. Is a theft or even a robbery arrest worth a human life? Think people!
12/22/2013 12:58:00 PM
Car wasn't taken from englewood originally asshat. Go back up north and back to sleep
How was this individual able to jack
three vehicles, evade the Police,
wind-up in Oakbrook, and escape on foot ?
----------------
For starters, he jacked the green minivan that crashed in 019 Friday morning. He and a buddy went on a little north side crime spree before winding up down south, popping up hot and you know the rest. So, we missed him after the first carjacking, missed him after additional crimes. Isn't it great when all of the POs are down south so these assholes can slip away with a long line of shit in the taxpaying hoods?
Monday morning quarterbacking in this situation is uncalled for. things happen fast in our line of work. prayers and support is what is needed.
If the news is even half accurate this offender jumped in another car. Termination or not was any officer aware of this. Monday morning quarterbacking is as easy as an arm chair player. Per general order an accident terminates a chase. It's easy to now complain about terminations or not, from a bunch of people who weren't even there. Others can Monday morning quarterback after the fact and question the chase. Not your job or right to do either.
Now that this asshole has been identified publicly there are a couple things from Google and Facebook that we know about Rockie Douglas.
*Has ties/family in the Northwest Ilinois and Southeast Wisconsin corridor.
*He was pinched recently in Kenosha and the judge let him go with what looks like probation.
*Has a history of burglary/robbery/theft in the northwest part of Illinois all the way up into Northeast Wisconsin.
*May know how to drive a semi-truck per his pictures on FB from a trucking firm out of Chicago Ridge, which means he may have a very good "on the fly" knowledge of traveling the highways, etc.
*Per the Zion Police Department FB page, he was identified being involved in a December 13th attempt to place him into custody with 3 car chases that day. This is probably the same incident in which he rammed 2 police vehicles. From a comment from a poster on that topic it appears this asshole has been a jag-off since high school.
I'm wondering why an asshole from the northwest part of Illinois is trolling in Englewood and "south" Englewood in 009? He could be a "functioning" crack-head who was looking to buy.
Rockie has been fishing in "shallow waters" in terms of towns/police agencies, with limited resources. He's been a career "minor leaguer" in his criminal life basically. He's just stepped into the "big leagues" now, and I have 100% confidence the dicks working this case (CPD) will hunt this fuck-head down. It will be up to him if he goes willingly and alive. If there ever was a "death penalty" case this should be one. Happy Hunting to the Fugitive guys and gals, as well as the State and Fed's.
C'mon out to play Rock, it's game playing time!
too bad helicopter wasn't up!
Offender is known, hopefully the feds get involved.
Does it matter? The kid was killed by a jagoff and you're discussing whether the child was properly restrained. You are a professional idiot
Nothing like the clueless Lt Darlin to call it off. Hey Randy you will never get your gold star cause your a goof! Who is way in over his head as a Lt. Now go cry some more that you never made dick.
___________________
I disagree with this statement. This guy is a good boss
Wow! What an exciting day to be the PO-lice yesterday. Tried to jump in on this pursuit, but just didn't have any luck. I've had others in the past and boy, were they exciting. Imagine (civilians) if we were fully staffed!!! Prayers to the family of the 11-year old with that great smile. :) This will likely end very violently. Rules will have to be broken to bring any future pursuit to a terminus. Don't second guess one another, just back one another up. This rabid dog needs to be put down. Godspeed!
"Now that this asshole has been identified publicly there are a couple things from Google and Facebook that we know about Rockie Douglas.
*Has ties/family in the Northwest Ilinois and Southeast Wisconsin corridor.
*He was pinched recently in Kenosha and the judge let him go with what looks like probation.
*Has a history of burglary/robbery/theft in the northwest part of Illinois all the way up into Northeast Wisconsin.
*May know how to drive a semi-truck per his pictures on FB from a trucking firm out of Chicago Ridge, which means he may have a very good "on the fly" knowledge of traveling the highways, etc.
*Per the Zion Police Department FB page, he was identified being involved in a December 13th attempt to place him into custody with 3 car chases that day. This is probably the same incident in which he rammed 2 police vehicles. From a comment from a poster on that topic it appears this asshole has been a jag-off since high school.
I'm wondering why an asshole from the northwest part of Illinois is trolling in Englewood and "south" Englewood in 009? He could be a "functioning" crack-head who was looking to buy.
Rockie has been fishing in "shallow waters" in terms of towns/police agencies, with limited resources. He's been a career "minor leaguer" in his criminal life basically. He's just stepped into the "big leagues" now, and I have 100% confidence the dicks working this case (CPD) will hunt this fuck-head down. It will be up to him if he goes willingly and alive. If there ever was a "death penalty" case this should be one. Happy Hunting to the Fugitive guys and gals, as well as the State and Fed's.
C'mon out to play Rock, it's game playing time!"
Let me correct a few errors, should be NorthEast Illinois and SouthEast Wisconsin. Sorry about the mistake.
He committed a class X in DuPage....carjacking the elderly couple. That charge will stick because DuPage doesn't fuck around.
@2:52
It's not monday morning quarterbacking when the rules have been made and written and you signed off on them.
For as much as you claim to know what this job is and isn't or who is and isn't a coward and just taking a paycheck like a dogass...
you are still plain wrong. Part of the job is knowing the limits on top of knowing the rules, what they call our department policy and our general orders. You can talk tough but that hardass knowitall atitude won't help these officers and now they will be at the mercy of a department that may or may not cover for them.
you don't get. No matter how much a guy wants to help you, perhaps because he's done his share of having to answer for heat of the moment heroics and suicide courage nonsense, it just doesn't matter to you. Everyone telling you to try a different tact, go with a smarter strategy, everyone is just a dogass to you...
You remind me why I left the land of hotdogs and tough guys... the rules change but you nitwits stay the same.
One more thing, since it seems you'll be doing plenty of paper, learn to write, hot dog.
Nothing like the clueless Lt Darlin to call it off. Hey Randy you will never get your gold star cause your a goof! Who is way in over his head as a Lt. Now go cry some more that you never made dick.
___________________
I disagree with this statement. This guy is a good boss
12/22/2013 10:40:00 PM
Stay off the blog randy
For all of the general order buffs out there that think they know what they're talking about because they've been studying for sergeant, consider this. The prohibition does exist that a termination must be given if there is an accident with personal injury. The order also states that the pursuit must conform to the balancing test. Wherein the necessity to immediately apprehend the suspect outweighs the inherent danger created by the pursuit. I'd say this piece of shit qualifies. This is where a boss with balls let's the pursuit go. For all of you that are bad mouthing the officers that chose to pursue, remember that when something happens to you or your family and the copper says, "sorry, per general order that I've studied for the first time, I can't chase but will gladly cut you a report." Cowardice is the demise of our society. Difficult decisions must be made for the greater good. This guy needs to be cut off from the oxygen supply. Stay safe out there.
For everyone's information the pursing units from 009 terminated the chase after the accident. It was picked up again by a different district on a different radio zone who spotted the car driving erratically.
When 008 spotted the car about an hour later the only people who came off looking like fools were Lt. B the 2nd watch w/c in 009, who gave a termination of a chase out of his district and involving none of his cars and the second Lt. who terminated.
At that point he was a hijacking/robbery/ homicide offender.
Two seperate pursuits the first one terminated properly and the second one terminated by two idiots.
Show me in the general orders where it says that a vehicle cannot be pursued from two separate locations following a span of time.
Termination given.. Major screw up by the bosses on that. Should have never been terminated after the kid died
12/22/2013 01:18:00 AM
---------------------------------
Chicago Police Department
General Order G03-03-01
Emergency Vehicle Operations – Pursuits
III. Prohibitions
C.
The continuation of a motor vehicle pursuit is prohibited whenever:
1.
a pursued vehicle or pursuing Department vehicle is involved in any traffic crash in which there is a probability of personal injury.
You see son..
this is why you will be a
blue-shirt forever.
But, but, but...I'm brave and you're a coward!
I know everything. I saw it myself, you weren't there. What if it was you....
Shut up and keep your highstrung hero antics on your side of the shithole.
If you knew how to work around the rules and the limitations, guess what? Bad guy would be at the m.e's on a stainless steel cart.
But since you want to bang your head on rules that are pretty clear-by all means, chase away, and then hope that all those bosses you think so little of, and their bosses all the way up to corp. Counsel (and the mayor's office), are suddenly gonna give a shit about you not being smart enough to "play by the rules."
Knock, knock! Mr. Thickhead! Learn to find another way to the same goal.
Post a Comment
<< Home