FOP in Springfield
From a source who would know and got hold of us as soon as he observed it, FOP Lobbyist Donahue was in Springfield for the run-up to the pension vote. That's good to know we had a presence there at the very least.
Also, Rahm was in near constant contact with Springfield yesterday morning. Our contact relates that Rahm desperately wanted to tie Chicago pensions into the Springfield legislation, but was shut down by Cullerton's people who didn't want to trick-bag the Chicago cabal that was voting today to screw everyone except Chicago at this point in time.
A lot of bad blood tonight and today over these votes. Democrats who have had no problem accepting union money for the past decades pretty much screwed their most loyal voters. They told stories, stretched the truth, out-and-out lied about the pyramid scheme they were building on borrowed money. Republicans who told the truth about unsustainable money fantasies were derided, demonized and dismissed along with anyone who attempted to preach fiscal responsibility.
Just a thought, but tomorrow might be a good time to start another voter drive via the FOP and CFD union.
Also, Rahm was in near constant contact with Springfield yesterday morning. Our contact relates that Rahm desperately wanted to tie Chicago pensions into the Springfield legislation, but was shut down by Cullerton's people who didn't want to trick-bag the Chicago cabal that was voting today to screw everyone except Chicago at this point in time.
A lot of bad blood tonight and today over these votes. Democrats who have had no problem accepting union money for the past decades pretty much screwed their most loyal voters. They told stories, stretched the truth, out-and-out lied about the pyramid scheme they were building on borrowed money. Republicans who told the truth about unsustainable money fantasies were derided, demonized and dismissed along with anyone who attempted to preach fiscal responsibility.
Just a thought, but tomorrow might be a good time to start another voter drive via the FOP and CFD union.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
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What about petitions to reduce alderman to number cities of la and ny
Well, Ms. Iris Martinez, I'll be actively working against you in the next elections. Very actively.
Go to the BGA Pension Data website:
http://www.bettergov.org/pension
/default.aspx
OVER 7800 people are getting pensions worth over $100,000 a year in Illinois ..
MANY are politicians ..
One of them is named "RICHARD".
MANY of them get a 3% compounded COLA each year.
WE DO NOT !!!
There are over 180 people getting a pension worth over $200,000 a year.
Some make as much as $470,000 plus a year!!
Go after these bastards...
we make spit on our pension with NO Social Security !!
Pretty soon it will be time to pull out the guns just like they did in the early 1770's ....
A revolution is brewing !
To bad Mike Shields didn't think it was important to be in Springfield yesterday for the pension vote.
FOP Lobbyist Donahue is a piece of s**t, sold us out loooooooong time ago, merit appointment to detective, was smug in dick school, never saw an area
What about the politicians who appoint there friends and families to multiple high level jobs so they can double and triple dip? Like triple dipping FUCKING DALEY and his 6 figure pension! Thats what really needs to be changed. This pension mess lies squarly on the politicians ignoring payments to fund and flat out lying there is no money. They spend it elswhere and blame it on the average 5 figured public worker being greedy!
Mark should be in Springfield, isn't that why we pay him $75,000 a year? The bigger question is why wasn't Shields there instead of munching at a buffet at FOP?
"Just a thought, but tomorrow might be a good time to start another voter drive via the FOP and CFD union."
Yea, it sure would SCC, but maybe you haven't been paying attention for the last decade or so. The "Real Police" have been too busy making those 2 and 3-baggers and sandbagging folks on vehicle impounds with nary a wink of discretion to be concerned about some voter thingy. Gotta keep that spot on the tact or Saturation team, dontcha know.
So quit with all that crazy talk! This generation can't be bothered with little things like being registered to vote. And staying informed about issues that'll effect their future? Why worry about that silly pension when you have a $75 court date in handcuffs in the back seat for a single bag of dope?
Ironically though, these same hard-ons are the first to criticize the union regarding 'The Letter' as if they're well-versed on the intricacies involved in the whole process. They've done their homework, ya see, and talked to that friendly lawyer that frequents the gin mill. The one that specializes in "wills and stuff", and who convinced them that a 1-2% retroactive check for a year is the be-all, end-all when it comes to their "financial footprint".
Our pensions could be totally eliminated tomorrow and the usual hard chargers wouldn't even give it a second look. You'd think that living paycheck to paycheck might motivate more people to get educated and involved, but it all makes perfect sense when you think about it: lax hiring standards has allowed the blissfully ignorant to become a large part of our ranks.
Coincidence? Methinks not. Exactly how they planned it is more plausible.
Just a thought, but tomorrow might be a good time to start another voter drive via the FOP and CFD union.
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Why? If they haven't been observing the events the past few decades and voting all along, they probably aren't informed enough to be counted on to vote sensibly at election time. We got the government we voted for because we've allowed socialists to brainwash our young and didn't exercise our franchise to vote the rascals out. Your apathy got us to this point, now go whine about how we're getting screwed and it's not your fault. I've been voting since 1976. And I can tell you this, almost none of the people I voted for ever won an election, but I voiced my displeasure for these damn marxists every 2 years.
The only presidents since Truman that have been worth a damn are Eisenhower and Reagan. And for you Reagan detractors, kiss my bottom! After that horses butt Carter, because of Reagan, at least one could be proud to be an American for a change. He rebuilt the military and the economy was booming.
Keep Sending in your DUES$$$$
Your about to be Screwed By
Shields Capparelli and CO
Thanks FLOP Time to decertify
Detroit is coming
There's been very little talk about what exactly the pension changes proposed are. Lots of talk about who voted how, who voted the party line, who didn't and who changed sides.
Has anyone asked if any of these senators and reps actually read the bill, and what it actually said? what it means?
Mainstream media -- there for all the drama but none of the substance.
Voters with brains have become too complacent. It will take an earthquake to wake them up and get them to the poles. It may be coming sooner than you think.
I better not see our union endorse ANY Democrat come election time, and FUCK any officer who voted them in.
OT. Why was Rich Aguilar suddenly assigned to FOP from 015. Is he afraid he was going to get dumped like Dougherty. I got news for you Rich, your getting dumped by the membership.
The same guys who created this financial mess - the financial elites - are the ones who are slashing middle class pensions.
We serfs bailed them out with tax dollars and we are forced to sacrifice our hard earned pensions so they can get a tax cut at the CME.
What is our pension rep Michael Lappe been doing since he's been elected???? Have not heard one word from him.
Nice to see Zalewski voted yes again. This suck ass has never stood up for anyone but himself.
Where was Mike Shields? He had to be down there. Mike, I supported you, and first its no retro and now you can't even get into a car and drive down to Springfield and protect our pensions. Unbelievable!!
you can have all the voter drives you want, until the LAZY cop and FF get involved this is going to continue to happen
good thing that asshat shields and Gorman and Dougherty and Donahue all endorsed and threw all kinds of money at these jagoffs, hell even the legislators in copland voted for it.
way to go FOP on some of the endorsements, yeah SHIELDS lets keep throwing money at them, your a fool if you think your going to influence them with the tickets to their events
shields wasn't there because he didn't think he had to be there even though the FOP Board thought he should he shot that idea down, so all you retirees that think he is looking out for you, bend over.....
Remember who Shields and FOP backed in the elections? Remember they went against police officers for politicians. Guess what? The politicians screwed us. The politicians backed by FOP all voted for the pension bill.
You are right on the money SCC. When a church has a voter registration drive the politicians pee in their pants. I have often suggested the FOP do this. Of course, they are much too busy. I can promise you, if we organize a voter registration drive, these politicians will sit up and take notice. Thank you SCC.
Shields is weak, he stood up to huberman, not getting a pension, made a video of it got elected! The dirty secret is mike shields is also the name of another mike shields boss who left CPD and came back, so some voters thought they were voting for the other mike shields! Shields has no business in office, just a spoiled kid, with no Cajuns, he dumped Doherty but yet he nope We still pay Doherty over 2 grand a month in extra cash, why? Is this a payoff? Hello mike what is going on? Why also is there absolutely no contract information about negotiations being published? Why are updates to fop website always months behind? Retiree info etc... Think mike cannot even keep up a website.retirees are current as of 7/2013 just 5 months behind! Minor things yes, but if minor things are avoided how can the kid and crew manage any major events?
When is the FOP election?
Madigan's personal political army has been taken care of beside the 100,000 pensions that most are getting from city and state jobs when they retire he puts them on state panels making 35,000-40,000 and health care to show up to one meeting a month. Where is Andy the 'Whimp" and his BGA?
How can we find out who voted and how they voted on this pension bill? Its time we stop donating to these politicians, Lets stand on our own merits as LEOs. They back doored us and now its about hitting them where it counts, the pocketbook.
Maybe the FOP Board and trustees can all go and get certified to be voting registrars then hit the districts and units registering voters. Off duty guys can bring the family for additional voters. How about Saturday mornings, they may even get to know a few of their fellow officers and pick up a few votes for themselves in their own elections and the rest of us will feel better that the FOP is actually doing something.
The title of this post should have been FOP Not in Springfield. Shields thought it was more important to stay in Chicago and try to crush one of his opponents in the upcoming election at the Tuesday board meeting.
Funny thing here is that this jerkoff really believes he still has a chance.
Active members better wake up and cast ballots in the next election. Shields is courting the shit out of the retirees and is absolutely counting on their votes. The retirees do vote, but they are in the minority if the actives vote.
Shields had his chance. He proved himself to be incompetent. Vote him out.
"I Fart In Your General Direction"
12/04/2013 02:14:00 AM
hit it right on the head. A lot of officers are just "useful idiots" for the politicians. They are the frogs in the pot of water and Tiny Dancer is slowly turning up the fire. Before they know it, they will be cooked. Then they will stand around with a stupid look on their faces bitching and moaning. Keep making the BS arrests and working special and VRI, you useful idiots.
PO's that voted for Shields for pension board and also as FOP Pres at the same time are to blame. Their mindset is the same that voted for Obama.
It's called low information voters.
This time don't screw up, vote for a active PO that isn't on easy street with an assignment.
The FOP needs to hand out a list of judges and state reps who have turned on us so that we can begin to campaign against them. We have not mobilized the FOP against anyone since the days when Kathy Toughy was beaten up. We have mobilized FOR candidates like Lisa Madigan the first time she ran, but it seems we never oppose anyone. WHY?
Quinn and Rahm are just giddy that employees are going to lose hard worked for pension money so that they can give it to the rat criminal element that are all democratic voters.
"Republicans who told the truth about unsustainable money fantasies were derided, demonized and dismissed along with anyone who attempted to preach fiscal responsibility."
Thompson, Edgar, and Ryan had all spoken up so courageously for fiscal responsibility in the past, all the while doing the Daley machine's bidding behind the scenes to the benefit of the republican establishment and our short-term union gain.
Do the CPD lemmings know how to tell the music has stopped? Yes indeed, and apparently the last chair is in a local VRI roll call near you.
More than ever SCC, we need your brand of bold conservative discourse directed at Springfield. A revolution is brewing in the overflowing toilet and all of us need to step it up.
How about Madigan on the news wearing his 500.00 leather jacket and 175.00 Burbury scarf telling the news that the pensions are to "Rich" but Madigan's pension was not touched yesterday. was it Madigan.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
There's been very little talk about what exactly the pension changes proposed are. Lots of talk about who voted how, who voted the party line, who didn't and who changed sides.
Has anyone asked if any of these senators and reps actually read the bill, and what it actually said? what it means?
12/04/2013 03:49:00 AM
The bill is 500 pages. Now hurry up and vote, time is short. Sound familiar? NONE of them read the bill, except maybe Cullerton and Madigan. The rest are just slapped in line and told to vote. Which of them do you think might read a 500 page bill? They never read a 500 page anything in their lives.
Just hurry up and vote, we will find out what is in it later. And remember, that court we take it to has already been bought off. The pension changes do not include them That was their gift so they are not ruling on their own pensions. Which way would you go if you were a judge?
Our only hope is that current retirees not get fucked too much.
Anonymous said...
FLOP Endorses Rham and Quinn for Re-election just watch and see No wonder we're screwed
12/03/2013 06:23:00 AM
Who cares who FOP endorses. You have your own mind, vote for who YOU want to vote for!!!
See, all these years I've been trying to tell readers that FOP is nothing but a fraternity of good ole boys living off our dues money with all their trips, monthly luncheons that could feed a starving family of of 6 or more, new cars, clothing allowance, etc etc. NEED I SAY MORE?I will never pay dues to FOP because retirees are not part of anything anymore except a newsletter, stickers and picnic.
Anonymous said...
In reply to the gentlemen who wants to raise the police retirement age to 60, how about you have to work 29 years, not 20.Bet u don't agree with that old man!
12/03/2013 05:16:00 PM
I agree. I came on the job at 22. I hate hearing these guys who came on the job at 39 saying that we get to retire too early. They only say that because it doesn't effect them and they already have to work until 60 anyway. They forget that I worked this job 17 years before they entered the academy. This is a physical job and physical skills deteriorate with age.
Anybody who votes for Michael Madigan or any other democRat is a complete fool.
Love Madigan's comment about how these plans are "too rich".
Really? Seems you never hear them say that when they're talking about all the ghetto-giveaways for the catered-to-constituency. But then again, savages V-O-T-E.
First responders? They're just little people.
What a fucked up situation.
Hey Directional Fart, how much time you got on the job? You're just a wealth of knowledge. You must be a real treat to ride around in the car with for eight hours a day. Get over yourself rubber. Signed 2-Bag Pete.
Mark should be in Springfield, isn't that why we pay him $75,000 a year? The bigger question is why wasn't Shields there instead of munching at a buffet at FOP?
If you have ever heard Shields speak publicly or observed the childish way he acts, trust me he did us a favor by not going.
This is something we all need to watch carefully and decide how hard we want to fight this legislation. ..
http://news.yahoo.com/detroit-bankruptcy-decision-puts-pensions-risk-061717267--finance.html?.tsrc=attmp
take from our pensions?
against state law?
Give us back our earned social security with interest
that was taken because we were pensioned?
Why no mention of this?
Maybe the FOP should become proactive and target some of the politicians who are sitting on the fence regarding our pension vote which is sure to come sometime next year. State lawmakers and Rahm have said they intend to address our pension early next year and making the politicians aware they will pay a price for their vote might help.
Demonstartions outside their offices, letter writing campaign, now is the time, not after the vote
It's funny that Madigan who has been in charge of the majority(democrats)in the house for over 30years, and runs all legislation thru the house only if he personally approves of it, and has watched and greatly participated in the pension crisis over his stay in power and has full support of unions and their money, and has opposing democrats afraid to oppose him on legislation for fear of his revenge if they vote against him, will probably have the same union support and money of the same people(unions) he stabbed in the back concerning their pensions.
So who's the fool.......certainly not Madigan.....it's the unions that keep him in power. Wake up people. Get out and VOTE, and tell the unions to stop wasting your money on these backstabbers and start supporting people who truly care about issues and pensions.
Remember Fran Hurley at election time. Voted for the reform bill.
As much as it pains me to say it, Illinois Republicans fucked us over right along with the Democrats. This game has been played since the 70's. The truth is, we allowed it to happen. We all new these pension plans were pyramid schemes.
Police, Fire, teachers, and all necessary services unions rank & file need to stand together, take back there unions from the political hacks in charge, and then stick it to the crony politicians with our votes, and if necessary, strikes and slow downs. And I'm not talking about involving the SEIU political voting armies with their hands out who have destroyed what unions meant to those of us and our parents who fought so hard for a fair wage and benefits. I'm talking to the blue collar members, who show up every day to put food on the table and leave something better for our kids.
Unless we make ourselves heard, the sham continues, until we're standing in line for our 17 cents on the dollar.
How about just change it so police and fire can't start collecting a check until 60.
What was Mikey Shields munching on?
Not only was the FOP represented in Springfield yesterday, but Doanhue did a great job of testifying in committee against the pension reform bill. I was sitting in committee and heard him testify that the bill is flawed because, among other things, it doesn't consider the risk imposed to those in high-risk and demanding jobs, who will be forced to work several more years.
The fix was definitely in for the pension bill but Donahue didn't back down.
Our Union has to gather all the hired guns in the Law and Accounting Professions.
Have them get together with assorted F.O.P. members, both Board Members and Beat Car Warriors and compile a plan to help save the Pension as we know it.
Help to enact a plan that is good for us, good for the taxpayer, and will be sustainable.
Go over the money that is going out of City Hall to all the Special Projects that should not be spent until they pay our pension the money owed.
Make the public aware that most members Do Not get Social Security and the Members that have 40 credit hours paid into Social Security from working other jobs before, during, and after being employed by the City get Penalized an average of 60 Percent.This is due to a law pushed through by that Rotten S.O.B. Rostenkowski.
Detail from past contracts that we gave up other benefits to enhance benefits in the Pension.
Does anybody remember until the late 70's that all overtime earned (comp hours) was erased from the books over a certain amount of hours from the previous year?
Can I get those hours back?
Can I get the Social Security Payment I am owed?
Can I get the Health Care I was promised?
Come On F.O.P.
Tge retirees friend, Bill Daugherty, once again voted against retirees re-joining the FOP, without paying a heavy fine. This was something that was unanimously agreed upon, by the retiree committee. Team Daugherty, voted in lockstep, to not re-admit retired coppers. No retiree, or veteran, should ever, vote for these fools.
Our pensions could be totally eliminated tomorrow and the usual hard chargers wouldn't even give it a second look. You'd think that living paycheck to paycheck might motivate more people to get educated and involved, but it all makes perfect sense when you think about it: lax hiring standards has allowed the blissfully ignorant to become a large part of our ranks.
Coincidence? Methinks not. Exactly how they planned it is more plausible.
Yes this is all the young guys fault you ignorant prick. Because all the old timers aren't sucking up all the vri kool aid and that exciting new park initiative just to make more money. God forgive me for wanting to be somewhere where I at least dont get denied my days off so I can spend them with my children. Cause working that beat car in 7 and only three people being allowed to take a night off and the time due book being only open for a month in advance was so great. You wanna point fingers take a good look in the mirror pops. The pension problem has been going On For 30 years. Long before I became the police. You let this shit get this bad. You elected people over and over that let this shit get this bad. Now it's our fault right. Piss off. How about we just fucking stick together for once and instead of blaming each other blame the ass wipes that did this shit to us. Nah. That would be too logical. Why go the hard route. I'm saving my court time and living just fine to retire at twenty after I finish my masters and get a real job. You go ahead move to Arizona and live off the pension and continue to complain and blame every young copper out here when this shit started on you watch sir!!! Have a great day. See you in court!!!
Well said 214am. The hair gels play a much bigger part in ruining what's left of the once proud CPD. The policiticians know that a bunch of entitled too lazy to vote (or even pay attention to current events) snot nosed Gen X kids are wearing the tin nowadays. They are being played like fiddles. Same goes for the not so young coppers that couldn't manage their cash or keep their dicks in their pants and "have to' work VRI to exist now. More mental midget pushovers that Rahm and the DemocRATs are fucking dry. You hardhead motherfuckers have been warned repeatedly and still insisted to make that bed. You'll very soon have your chance to lie in that bed and don't say we didn't warn you when that day comes.
I cannot take credit for this
it was Jay at Substance.com
But his point is well taken.
Why not bring two contracts to
court: the pension robbery and the parking meter contract.It seems both
are iron clad contracts.
Time for Teamsters
Hey SCC going to Vegas for the weekend with wifey and friends. Any way we can get Mr. 10g NFL picks? Do U know the guy/girl?
Anonymous said...
Hey Directional Fart, how much time you got on the job? You're just a wealth of knowledge. You must be a real treat to ride around in the car with for eight hours a day. Get over yourself rubber. Signed 2-Bag Pete.
12/04/2013 10:02:00 AM
Truth hurts, huh hair gel???? Yes he or she is a wealth of knowledge. Your 2 Bag stupid ass could learn a lot from a person like them. Then again, I'm sure they wouldn't put up with your "sand bagging" ways and would make sure the secretary never put YOU with THEM. Brainwashed fools like yourself refuse to see what's right under your nose regardless of how many times the obviously tenured and intelligent contributors on SCC try to tell you imbeciles. Carry on, know it all jackass. I'll be reading the flyer for your benefit party sooner than later.
There should be some sort of investigation that ties shields in with Rahm and shows how they are making deals behind close doors to fuck us. It's the only plausible explanation to is lack of interest,action or in action
The paperwork that he failed file for our negotiation etc that little mishap in its self saved the city a TON of money no one is gonna convince me that they were both not in on a little deal on that one
Milwaukee police and fire don't contribute a dime to pension and 100% funded
Mark should be in Springfield, isn't that why we pay him $75,000 a year? The bigger question is why wasn't Shields there instead of munching at a buffet at FOP?
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Mark was in Springfield doing what we pay him for and your next question why not Shields, well he had to make sure he controlled his minions at the board meeting and to make sure Bill was not left in the position we all voted him in for. Although a motion to reinstate Bill immediately was made and Shields called for a vote and the vote went against what Shields expected to the tune of about 94% in attendance and acting in his same childish manner said he would not concur with the desires of the membership. A lawful motion made Dictator Shields said the motion passes and he says no I am not going to do it.
So now if he went down to Springfield some of his minions might jump ship and concur with the motion. Ask how can a legal motion be made and passed but yet the Dictator says no, more charges need to be placed against the Dictator.
You question Marks salary well the Dictator has now brought up another new field rep at another additional salary and added him to your account. Yes another Captain salary that we will all be paying for of course the rep might be an excellent horseman we are not sure how well versed he will be at bargaining our contract with the city, but Shields made sure Bill and Sid are out of the office who we all voted in. Shields sure showed all of us he rules the roost and does not give a dam about how he is spending our money.
Time for Teamsters
You think the politicians are robbing you join the Teamsters, wake up and start voting quit the complacency and quit voting the Democratic way. Start thinking about your future.
We are our own worse enemies. Look at our union endorsements. FOP,Firefighters union and the Teachers union all endorsed Mulroe for state senator and he voted for the pension bill.
Endorsement Archive
These organizations/individuals endorsed John G. Mulroe's candidacy for the Illinois state senate in the primary election held on February 2, 2010.
AFL-CIO Illinois
Amalgamated Transit Union Local #308
Chicago Sun-Times
Chicago Teachers Union
Chicago Tribune
Fraternal Order of Police Chicago Lodge #7
Chicago Firefighters Union Local #2
Illinois Federation of Teachers
As much as it pains me to say it, Illinois Republicans fucked us over right along with the Democrats. This game has been played since the 70's. The truth is, we allowed it to happen. We all new these pension plans were pyramid schemes.
Police, Fire, teachers, and all necessary services unions rank & file need to stand together, take back there unions from the political hacks in charge, and then stick it to the crony politicians with our votes, and if necessary, strikes and slow downs. And I'm not talking about involving the SEIU political voting armies with their hands out who have destroyed what unions meant to those of us and our parents who fought so hard for a fair wage and benefits. I'm talking to the blue collar members, who show up every day to put food on the table and leave something better for our kids.
Unless we make ourselves heard, the sham continues, until we're standing in line for our 17 cents on the dollar.
We need to stand together? We did and our unions, all three, were so smart that they endorsed most of the politicians that voted for the pension bill. We endorse and vote for them and they turn around and vote against us.
Read the previous endrsements and compare them to how they voted and you will be shocked
Anonymous Anonymous said...
This is something we all need to watch carefully and decide how hard we want to fight this legislation. ..
http://news.yahoo.com/detroit-bankruptcy-decision-puts-pensions-risk-061717267--finance.html?.tsrc=attmp
12/04/2013 10:15:00 AM
No, we don't. Detroit didn't have millions, or is that billions, squirreled away in TIF funds. THOSE would have to be used before any bankruptcy would be considered.
Rahm does not intend to be the mayor who presided over Chicago's bankruptcy. It would ruin him and Rahm doesn't intend to be ruined by this little steppingstone of a job.
Have them get together with assorted F.O.P. members, both Board Members and Beat Car Warriors and compile a plan to help save the Pension as we know it.
Help to enact a plan that is good for us, good for the taxpayer, and will be sustainable.
Go over the money that is going out of City Hall to all the Special Projects that should not be spent until they pay our pension the money owed.
Make the public aware that most members Do Not get Social Security and the Members that have 40 credit hours paid into Social Security from working other jobs before, during, and after being employed by the City get Penalized an average of 60 Percent.This is due to a law pushed through by that Rotten S.O.B. Rostenkowski.
Detail from past contracts that we gave up other benefits to enhance benefits in the Pension.
Does anybody remember until the late 70's that all overtime earned (comp hours) was erased from the books over a certain amount of hours from the previous year?
And we better start doing it now instead of waiting until after the vote.
A huge point that is never brought up and that the public is not aware of is not all police pensions are the same. Compare us to the state police where their pension is based on their last day and they can collect 80% Big difference between our last 48 months and 75%
Fuck you Rham and the horse you rode in on.
Mike Madigan is the public employee's Bernie Madof!
Anonymous said...
Where was Mike Shields? He had to be down there. Mike, I supported you, and first its no retro and now you can't even get into a car and drive down to Springfield and protect our pensions. Unbelievable!!
12/04/2013 07:04:00 AM
And because of idiots like you and many other brainless mopes on this job and retired who wouldn't be able to find cheese in Wisconsin, we are we are not getting a retro check.
Enjoy your wise decision. If I were you, I wouldn't tell anyone you voted for the socialist for Prez either.
Do us all a favor, stay home during any election.
"I'm saving my court time and living just fine to retire at twenty after I finish my masters and get a real job."
Hopefully you started here @ 40, at this rate,you'll only have to wait 3 years to collect.
Long time suburban cop here. You C.P.D. guys and gals need to get together and stop fighting among yourselves. We as police officers must put aside petty differences and stick together. Political power is with numbers and money. How can we all as police officers get anyone to listen to us when we can not even get along? C.P.D. has the largest amount of members in this rotten state. Suburban P.O.'s will join in any meaningful political actions that will help all of us. Back "in the day" most if not all police officers got along pretty well. We need to get together again and start protecting ourselves. If we don't no one else will look out for us. Stay safe all.
FUCK ALL Unions. Sellouts to the DemocRAT Party, and Cowards. Only interested in, "What's In it For Me"?
southside state reps will vote NO for city pension changes in spring session
How can we find out who voted and how they voted on this pension bill? Its time we stop donating to these politicians, Lets stand on our own merits as LEOs. They back doored us and now its about hitting them where it counts, the pocketbook.
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Stand on your merits? You don't have enough sense to look in the paper, on the Internet or on SCC to see who voted for and against?
You shouldn't be allowed to leave the house, let alone vote. Dumbass.
The pension fund should buy the parking meters back.
The city says it does not have a billion to pay back the money.The Pension fund does.
Our pensions would grow like weeds.
12/03/2013 05:16:00 PM
I agree. I came on the job at 22. I hate hearing these guys who came on the job at 39 saying that we get to retire too early. They only say that because it doesn't effect them and they already have to work until 60 anyway. They forget that I worked this job 17 years before they entered the academy. This is a physical job and physical skills deteriorate
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I couldn't agree with you any more than I already do. I came on this job at 23, and I couldn't imagine doing damn near 40 years on this job. With the overall physicality the job requires, it's not meant to be a job worked for 40+ years. The question that I always have for the non-police she they say we should work to 65 like them is if they're being attacked and need to call the police, do they want a 25 year old officer coming to help, or a 65 year old officer coming to wrestle or have to chase the guy? I'm not suggesting that a 65 year old officer can't help, but when push comes to shove, I'd rather have the younger more athletic officer in certain situations. This is a young mans game, and if the city wants a department full of 60 year old paper pushers, that's probably what they're going to get.
These guys that are blaming younger officers for this mess are either trolling or completely out of their minds. Do they really believe that if Shields lost the election that the city would have stopped with the pension holidays? Do they believe that Rahm would have suddenly been convinced to make the upcoming state law required payments to the funds? The public hates the fact that public workers receive pensions, and this storm has been coming for years. We could have elected Ronald Reagan as FOP president and Madigan and his crew still would have voted for that bill yesterday. Don't get me wrong, I'm not sticking up for Shields, I didn't vote for him and think he's a tool, but this bill was coming one way or the other. These old guys act as if their buddy Bill Nolan was never complicit with the city's avoidance of their required pension payments. The city pension funds have been a disaster for years, but either these old guys had their heads in the sand like they're accusing the young guys of now doing, or they're just assholes for trying to place blame on someone other than where it belongs; on the city. I hope everyone has been contributing to the 457b, because you're probably going to need it.
Shields wasn't down there, he was told to go down there by his board but refused! ask him to show you the email where his Board told him to go
FUCK ALL Unions. Sellouts to the DemocRAT Party, and Cowards. Only interested in, "What's In it For Me"?
If your a copper then you must Love FLOP
Anonymous said...
southside state reps will vote NO for city pension changes in spring session
12/04/2013 10:27:00 PM
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Right!
That f-ing Zalewski doesn't know where the 'No" button is.
Long time suburban cop here. You C.P.D. guys and gals need to get together and stop fighting among yourselves. We as police officers must put aside petty differences and stick together. Political power is with numbers and money. How can we all as police officers get anyone to listen to us when we can not even get along? C.P.D. has the largest amount of members in this rotten state. Suburban P.O.'s will join in any meaningful political actions that will help all of us. Back "in the day" most if not all police officers got along pretty well. We need to get together again and start protecting ourselves. If we don't no one else will look out for us. Stay safe all.
*Time to March in the Spirit of Tim Fallon
Take back our Union and this city
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Where was Mike Shields? He had to be down there. Mike, I supported you, and first its no retro and now you can't even get into a car and drive down to Springfield and protect our pensions. Unbelievable!!
12/04/2013 07:04:00 AM
And because of idiots like you and many other brainless mopes on this job and retired who wouldn't be able to find cheese in Wisconsin, we are we are not getting a retro check.
Enjoy your wise decision. If I were you, I wouldn't tell anyone you voted for the socialist for Prez either.
Do us all a favor, stay home during any election.
12/04/2013 09:38:00 PM
Mike Shields = the first candidate running for FOP office that ever held a fundraiser for said office!
Fuck you Rham and the horse you rode in on.
Remember Rham the RAt when he runs for another office
Can I get those hours back?
Can I get the Social Security Payment I am owed?
Can I get the Health Care I was promised?
Come On F.O.P.
-Hey Shut Up and go to meetings!!!
Anonymous said...
What is our pension rep Michael Lappe been doing since he's been elected???? Have not heard one word from him.
12/04/2013 06:46:00 AM
Start talking about him on the blog and you'll hear from him.
He can't take the pressure.
But, it is true. Not a peep from Mikey since he was elected to office.
Remember Fran Hurley at election time. Voted for the reform bill.
*And 39th Ward Laurino's Nephew too
Keep voting Democrat
Sad when one person asks where to find the list of politicians who voted, and another poster replies calling names and ripping the original poster. Anyone want to know whats wrong with this dept? Here it is in a nutshell. Typical jagoff know it all, probably with 5 yrs OTJ. Nothing a bitch slap wouldn't take care of, but of course that poster refused to sign his name! typical cpd.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The pension fund should buy the parking meters back.
The city says it does not have a billion to pay back the money.The Pension fund does.
Our pensions would grow like weeds.
12/04/2013 10:40:00 PM
That's an excellent idea. Problem is, LAZ wouldn't sell it for TWICE the price. They have the golden goose in their hot little hands.
I couldn't agree with you any more than I already do. I came on this job at 23, and I couldn't imagine doing damn near 40 years on this job. With the overall physicality the job requires, it's not meant to be a job worked for 40+ years. The question that I always have for the non-police she they say we should work to 65 like them is if they're being attacked and need to call the police, do they want a 25 year old officer coming to help, or a 65 year old officer coming to wrestle or have to chase the guy? I'm not suggesting that a 65 year old officer can't help, but when push comes to shove, I'd rather have the younger more athletic officer in certain situations. This is a young mans game, and if the city wants a department full of 60 year old paper pushers, that's probably what they're going to get.
Better the 60 year old paper pushers who did their time on the street than the 25 year old paper pushers the job is full of now
Anonymous said...
How can we find out who voted and how they voted on this pension bill? Its time we stop donating to these politicians, Lets stand on our own merits as LEOs. They back doored us and now its about hitting them where it counts, the pocketbook.
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Stand on your merits? You don't have enough sense to look in the paper, on the Internet or on SCC to see who voted for and against?
You shouldn't be allowed to leave the house, let alone vote. Dumbass.
You guys are right and make me laugh. Its listed in both paers by party, yes or no, senate or house rep, actually I think the list of votes was posted either on SSC or True News USA the old sarge LC
How did this guy find McCormick place to take the test and who leads him to the station and his car
Oh wait, hes no 1 merit on both the dets and sgts tests
Anonymous said...
How can we find out who voted and how they voted on this pension bill? Its time we stop donating to these politicians, Lets stand on our own merits as LEOs. They back doored us and now its about hitting them where it counts, the pocketbook
There are several ways to find out depending on how much time you have.
First you could petition the Illinois State Supreme Court with a request to see the vote or you could drive down to Springfield and go to both the house and senate and request a copy of the vote.
That is after you received a top secret security clearance from the pentagon so you will be able to gain access to the vote
or maybe you could just read the Sun Times or Tribune
Sad when one person asks where to find the list of politicians who voted, and another poster replies calling names and ripping the original poster. Anyone want to know whats wrong with this dept? Here it is in a nutshell. Typical jagoff know it all, probably with 5 yrs OTJ. Nothing a bitch slap wouldn't take care of, but of course that poster refused to sign his name! typical cpd.
Trust me, thats not whats wrong with the department.
there is not even a remote chance that public employee unions will get on board with any kind of fiscal responsibility. it is just not in their interest.
a bill that takes care if perhaps 10% of the problem draws this kind of disfavor. imagine what would happen to any union leader that was seen as being even remotely in favor of a real solution.
there is no provision for a state to go bankrupt. states are sovereign entities and there really is not much that can be done about the situation short of the voters of the state doing it, and I have seen no evidence that the unholy alliance of public employee labor unions and the welfare crowd are going to allow anything that will actually fix the problem.
I have not read a newspaper in this city for over five years, since It reported all lies about a crime scene that we were involved in. Its a rag of lies. So I don't blame anyone for not looking at a newspaper anymore, unless of course you like reading fairy tales, by a liberal reporter. Some of you are ridiculous.
Who cares who FOP endorses. You have your own mind, vote for who YOU want to vote for!!!
Cause FLOP is using our Dues Money That's why why do I need FLOP?? FLOP does nothing for the Copper Oh Yes the Fishing tourney LoL
It pads the jobs of Shields and Capparelli Who should be on the street working
Thank You Representative Robert Rita for voting NO on the pension reform bill.
Gen X here, old boy!
Here we R now. Entertain Us!!!!
"*Time to March in the Spirit of Tim Fallon"
What? He drank from cup& became a one way sellout.
You know not what you speak.
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