$1.13 Million Per Homicide
- Homicides dropped 18 percent in Chicago last year and crime overall was down 16 percent, according to statistics released by the police department this morning.
The decline in homicides was a more modest 5 percent when compared with 2011. The department reported 435 homicides in 2011, 503 in 2012 and 415 in 2013.
Shootings across the city dropped by 24 percent from 2012 and 16 percent from 2011, according to the department's numbers. Sexual assaults were down 6 percent from last year, robberies down 12 percent, serious battery down 16 percent, burglaries down 22 percent, motor vehicle thefts down 23 percent, thefts down 3 percent.
The reductions came at a price: Nearly $100 million in overtime pay, triple what was budgeted for 2013.
One has to wonder, however twisted it may be, were the lives saved actually worth $1.13 million each? Is each and every life saved capable of generating $1.14 million worth of value to society as a whole? Cynics that we are, we highly doubt it.
We do like the second paragraph though - someone finally acknowledging what we've been saying for quite a while now - 2012 was the aberration. 2013 would have been just another in a progressive series of reductions of annual homicides going back three or four years....if Shortshanks and Rahm hadn't gutted the Department by 2,000-plus officers via attrition/reduced hiring and McMurder hadn't imported his crooked counting practices to "fix" the numbers.
Riddle us this - how many Death Investigations are ongoing? Are those going to be reclassified at a later date? And did you know that if it is found that deceased individual A was shot to death by individual B, and individual A was also armed at the time of death, a serious effort is being made to develop leads that can allow the death to be classified as justifiable? That individual B was acting in self defense and therefore, the killing is not in fact a homicide and will not be classified as a homicide at all. We know of a few incidents like this that didn't count toward district totals.
We just showed you how to find enough homicides to match the 2011 totals - a mere 20 killings. An enterprising reporter could raise a lot of uncomfortable questions if they scraped the surface a little bit, but then Rahm might not invited them or their editors out for cocktails.
We do like the second paragraph though - someone finally acknowledging what we've been saying for quite a while now - 2012 was the aberration. 2013 would have been just another in a progressive series of reductions of annual homicides going back three or four years....if Shortshanks and Rahm hadn't gutted the Department by 2,000-plus officers via attrition/reduced hiring and McMurder hadn't imported his crooked counting practices to "fix" the numbers.
Riddle us this - how many Death Investigations are ongoing? Are those going to be reclassified at a later date? And did you know that if it is found that deceased individual A was shot to death by individual B, and individual A was also armed at the time of death, a serious effort is being made to develop leads that can allow the death to be classified as justifiable? That individual B was acting in self defense and therefore, the killing is not in fact a homicide and will not be classified as a homicide at all. We know of a few incidents like this that didn't count toward district totals.
We just showed you how to find enough homicides to match the 2011 totals - a mere 20 killings. An enterprising reporter could raise a lot of uncomfortable questions if they scraped the surface a little bit, but then Rahm might not invited them or their editors out for cocktails.
116 Comments:
005 FTO 3 watch is a jerk! You're going to get yours one day officer bully! You wait until I'm off my cycles!
The author at heyjackass.com has the total number of homicides this year at448. Thats a pretty huge Difference from 415. I'm gonna choose to believe him over this Bogus ass city. How are they that far apart. Definiteley some bullshit in the game on this one. This blatant fraudulent number changing has to violate some type of law.
All that $$$ available and I am proud to say I have not worked 1 day of VRI. And with 28 years on, I could get the max allowed. Just doing my part.
The mutts aren't worth $1.13.
And in order to meet state and federal guidelines, Chicago police in 2013 implemented a policy of tabulating homicides in the years the victims were injured instead of the years when they died.
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Hey Jeremy somebody should tell you that the city is blowing smoke up your ass in regards to the above statement in your article. That is not what the federal or IUCR says.... It only applies to an injury not a homicide, you can't go back on a shooting and reclassify that 2 years later, try reading the UCR code manual by the FBI or Illinois state police
Worth every penny. Think how many future Rhodes scholars can now contribute their valuable minds to society
I just wanted to take this time time to thank Rahm for not plowing a motherfucking thang today.
SCC please post first homicide for all the pools out there lol
Your $1.3M total is off quite a bit. You forgot to add in the cost of lifetime section 8 vouchers, LINK, Obamaphones, Medicare, insurance premium increases to others from illegal activities, stolen natural gas & electric, etc for every single piece of garbage that isn't dead because their entire neighborhoods are staffed just like the Lincoln Park Zoo. Enough zookeepers to keep the animals from running wild. A beat car on EVERY SINGLE SAFE PASSAGE CORNER?!?!?
...and we're supposed to attribute this crime is down phenomenon to rahm and gary's superior knowledge and intellect....right.
well guess what else.
nyc's homicides were down 20 percent. nyc's 2013 body count was 333 as of dec. 29.
chicago still remains about 30 percent higher than nyc when it comes to homicides and the numbers look even worse when you pull the per-capita per 100,000 resident percentages.
also would like to point out and remind the readers that all the numbers are not in for 2013 yet.
but the powers that be can strut around like they're irreplaceable while claiming success with their noses in the air, chin up, shoulders back, chest stuck out -- however to a growing number of chicago residents y'all just look like jackazzes.
Well said SCC!!!! I am just pulling my hair out listing to this BS about how crime and murders are at the lowest rate in decades.....most if not all reductions are likely due to McFoolery and his magic reclassifying of crimes. Then consider the reductions in beat cops and time it can take to respond to crimes and therefore the number of crimes that go unreported. The reality is likely that as we all suspect crime is up and not down!!! Most infuriating is there are a million holes in the story McCarthy and Rahm try to pedal but none of our fine local media have the guts to do any real poking around. Although some have daringly provided additional information not included in the city propaganda they still seem to be afraid to connect the dots and grow a pair and call the bs out!!!!
Oh well keep the vri coming as its a form of your over taxation being returned to you. Pay some bills. Invest in a college fund.
heh,,
oh yeah...meanwhile...
gov. quinn and c.c's preckwinkle says close your eyes boys and girls and count to fifty.
they're about to release a new crew of inmates because the shitter's full.
this should generate a crisis that can be used to demand more taxes eh, build empires.
fines, fees, taxes, from the taxpayers while we all wait and see if the coppers can find these same guys again and again before someone else gets shot.
the new crisis taxes, fines and fees is like the mob demanding protection money isn't it.
city leaders play the victim. the jails are full. we have no more money. [rahm spent it on maggie park, river walks and bike paths for his friends, corporate tax breaks to help corps move jobs off shore or to fund buyouts, do mergers thereby eliminating jobs and city tax revenue that goes with it] we're broke i tell ya,,
yeah oh the crisis. the humanity.
[someone queue that old soundtrack of the Hindenburg going down]
give us your money or we're turning these convicts loose they say.
we're concerned for your safety.
fear is such a powerful motivator and also a great distraction.
stop blowing smoke up the peoples ass. we all know this game plan.
Rahm and his underlings lie? Say it ain't so, Joe. Say it ain't so.
Talking about money?
OT: The City Wide team has put up their web site.
City Wide Team 101 - Great Propaganda!
Just remember how Obama lied to all of us the last year on multiple topics? The only reason that I would bring that up is that Mark Donahue is a HUGE Obama supporter. But what should bother everyone is that this guy will actually be the President of the Lodge. Not just a lowly trustee. Bill Dougherty does not have the skill set to be President. Billy will just be Mark’s puppet. Mark is obsessed with being in control. Many of you may not know but Mark gets a full Detectives pension and gets $75,000.00 as our lobbyist in Springfield. Does Mark need to get an additional $600 a month of our money? Mark while President also cost us over a million dollars in lawsuits and over payment of legal bills.
Mark did not get one vote to change during the State Pension reform debate and vote. On the City’s employees at the Park District hearing Mark signed in support of the Bill. It passed. Rahm said this will be his blueprint for the rest of the City Employee’s! It wasn’t until the SIEU retirees (who can not for officers in their union) raised a stink that the President of SIEU said she wanted Quinn to do an amendatory veto and Mark said he made a mistake and signed in on the wrong sheet. Mark Donahue and Bill Dougherty both pushed very hard for Fran Hurley to be the state Rep for the 19th ward. She has not voted once against any pension reform bill.
Bill Dougherty has made a half a million dollars in the last three years. On top of that WE have over the last 11-1/2 years have paid a lot of OUR FOP money to support his hockey team and softball teams. Bill has also used his position to get his wife a job at the Chicago Police Credit Union. I would not even bring this up except that Bill is making a lot of money from US. Was this job advertised so a P.O. who may have dire financial needs was afforded the same chance to get his wife the job? But this last one takes the cake. A couple of summers ago I stopped by FOP to use the rest room while working special. There was a grade school kid in the Gift Shop folding tee shirts. It was Dougherty’s kid. The two retirees working the store a midget female and bald older guy said he was making the same as they were. When is enough a enough? Mark and Bill have both used the lodge as their personal piggy bank for over a decade.
And lastly for today they are running a retired Sgt. for trustee? Mike Voight the cheapist man on the face of the earth. Are you F-ing kidding me? This guy made a fool out of himself since he retired. He goes to homeless shelters for a free meals, shows up at the union hall when there is no reason for him to be there except someone has food there, and still puts on his vest a pretends to still be the police to eat in restaurants that are free to us. He even has a bull shit scanner set to CW1. There have been other guys who made Sgt. while they were trustees but they all had class. This guy is the exception to the rule.
It’s time for these three goofs to just go away!
When the FBI accepts their data
Then I would be inclined to believe them.
It's interesting to see the FBI has a disclaimer about what Chicago presents.
And let's face the FBI lives to collect data and is pretty through
Rahm Emanuel will continue to tell McDrunk to lie and cook the books. We all know crime is not down, just like the economy is not in a "recovery". VRI will continue to steal money from taxpayers to protect the ghetto.
The fact is VRI is theft from taxpayers. Simple as that. Good people will continue to leave Chicago because of it.
Happy New Year SCC.
We tallied 448 homicides, but we count everything but drunk drivers and suicides. Our numbers match the M.E.'s plus police-involved.
Much like how the definition of inflation has been changed over the years so that now there is none, we suspect the homicide definition will change until there are none as well.
Illustrating Chicago Crime, Murder and Mayhem at heyjackass.com
When calculating murder rates using "per capita" as expected McDipShit's argument does not hold water.
1965 per capita murders (per 100,000 persons) was
11.42 murders
2013 per capita murders (per 100,000 persons) was
14.81 murders
For McDipshit's statement to be true, Chicago murders would total no more than 315 murders.
I guess none of the Chicago journalists have a calculator to do these simple calculations.
"$$$$$$$$$$. Sorry, the dollar outweighs all. I really dont care about the contract, other coppers and your problems. You want me to register my gun sure I really dont care. You say I have to blow after a shooting no problem, I dont drink before or at work so again no problem. You say I have to fill out more reports now for shootings making more work for me, who cares, after all I am at work so why not work. What Im getting at is im no hard charger, but im also no dog. I dont like coppers who are puds. 90 percent of this job is puds. You can cry not to work VRI because the city "screws us".. again, I dont care. Its a job. I do my work, arrest people when I must, I write my mover, 5 parkers and try to get an ANOV or two each tour and back up my fellow officers. Its not a hard job. I will work vri weather all of you hate it or not beause after all money is wayyy more important than any of you. Its all about my family. I work vri to pay for housing for my kids in college and take them on awesome trips. Last november I took my wife and kids to hawaii for a week and a half. We have gone to mexico, florida and me and the wife went to wine country in california.. all on the cities dime. Our cars are paid off and life is good. $$$ can make life easier and it can also bring happiness to your family and allow you to spend more time with them in the long run and to do great things with them.. So sorry, my family is much more important than any of you and your contracts or city screwing us. Im retiring in 14 months and none of you mean anything to me, its all about...
AMEN!! Unlike u though I only have 9 years on but couldn't agree with u more. Haters like the blogger "i fart in your general direction" is a goof ball. He's missing out on thousands of $. He either has no family or hates his family and doesn't want or need the EASY money, OR he's running on next FOP ticket. He has a hidden agenda noneless because unless ur sitting on millions would u not work overtime to SIT in a car with a co worker of UR choosing, write 1 Parker, maybe a contact card, eat lunch, and watch a red box! Cha Ching!
No matter what the city will fuck us in contracts, we have no unity in this Department, so if the city throws us a VRI bone I'm going to chew the hell out of it till its gone. The smart ones will.Again, Cha Ching. Rome in the spring - I can't wait!!!!!!
Every human life has infinite value. So much so that we cannot quantify a human life. What we can quantify is the value of labor. Is the value of the labor of the average Chicago PO worth the amount paid in overtime? Why are the taxpayers even paying overtime in the first place? Chicago pays it's police officers a good salary to start with. Why increase it with overtime. Our military, and many other professionals, work for straight salary and no overtime. Why not the Chicago PD? The mayor has shown that crime can be reduced with a smaller more efficient police force. The next step, the only step, is to stop paying overtime. It is unnecessary and the taxpayers cannot afford it. Each PO's own sense of responsibility and professionalism, should cause him to reject the very concept of overtime pay. Work smart and work until the mission is completed without the need for extra pay.
Keep paying me $300 a night to help curb the homicides. Hiring new PPO's that walk around stepping in shit for u to handle and their smug attitudes of "they know everything" isn't helping me one bit. The biggest morale boost has been VRI and the city has used it as good press for the down numbers. By the looks of our leadership at FLOP along with the many of officers who don't attend meetings this dr apartment has NO SPINE, NO BACKBONE, NO UNITY. I now only care about me, myself, and I. I paid off all credit cards, installed a new pool, paying down mortgage, , payed tuition for kids, maxing our Deffered Comp, and all ready went on some nice vacations. So now tell me----how is VRI bad????? The best part is my "presence" is all that's needed along with some ghost contact card and (1) Parker. If there is a "hot call" and I'm awake I will respond. Again, me, myself, and I.
They must think we're drinking the Kool-aid too!
Those are some expensive Amish men.
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so i have over 21 years on. its bad enough in 012 that they denied everyone on midnights new years eve off and half of 3rd watch. but what really gets me pissed off, as they play games with who is off and who is not. so curious minds like to know, the cross guard supervisor is on the sheets to work new years eve and day but i know she was not in. amazing how everyone else has to put slips in and get denied. not her. and she is supposed to be going to 3rd watch this year couldnt make the bid and was not picked up on management on 2nd. so i cant wait to see if she actually goes to third. just fyi people are watching. and if you think for a second fop wont be called on this your are mistaking. but happy new year all.
It's all lies from the Liar Kings, the Democrat Party and their willing Accomplices, the Socialist Media.
If it saves just one life, it's worth all of your tax dollars and in increase in your taxes. Somebody has to think of the children.
Your Comrade,
Rahmie the Commie
Detective Division is complicent in the coverup, sitting on Death Investigations and not promptly re-classifying them to Murders. Once again the Taxpayers are scammed and raped of their Tax Dollars by the lying Democommunist Regime of Chicago , covering up for their abject failures with Lie after Lie after Lie.
These thugs would never earn that even if they worked a regular job their entire lifetime! Btw why is every animal taken to Christ hospital, closest hospital non payer bullshit take them all to county if they have to wait and maybe die no loss! Was at Christ the other day could not believe all the hollering in ER, the security guards at Christ really have their hands full dealing with the animals everyday! Oaklawn police were there I remember when oaklawn coppers had it easy, now that the animals invade the hospital they work hard!
Not to mention the substantial increase in "self inflicted" shootings. That's one of the other places they are being hidden and disposed.
So where is our suspensed FOP President Mike Shields? Since he is our President we should know.
Yes this money would have been better spent elsewhere.
Its easy to reduce crime when you just don't answer the phone when people call 911 or don't have cars to send to calls so people get tired of waiting for service and give up on reporting their crime. These guys are number manipulating masters!
I thought justifiable homicides, like in the cases of police involved shootings, counted towards the homicide total. Am I mistaken or is this a new policy?
Inquiring minds want to know....
“The Cook County medical examiner’s office reported 443 homicides as of Friday, including 13 police-involved shootings, three killings on expressways investigated by Illinois State Police and other deaths that Chicago Police either ruled justified or remain under investigation.”
This is from an article in the Sun Times before the end of the year so the final number would be higher.
Why does the city have much different numbers?
http://homicides.suntimes.com/2013/12/28/progress-not-success-chicago-tallies-fewest-murders-since-1965/
The legal definition of "homicide" is death caused by the willful actions of another. How do you reclassify that?
New Law: Everyone Under 18 Is a Juvenile
Posted by Joe Vince (Editor) , January 02, 2014 at 01:49 AM
By Rick Nagel
The decision about who is a juvenile and who isn't was always a little fuzzy for local law enforcers and news-media folks trying to cover crime stories. Some of the classification decisions were based on the type of offense, the age of the suspect at the time of the alleged offense or other factors.
That's not the case as of Jan. 1, 2014, according to an excellent article by M. Lark Cowart in the latest edition of the Kane County State's Attorney's newsletter, Legal Ease.
Starting in 2014, it's "all into the pool," so to speak. Any suspect under 18 will be treated as a juvenile "based solely on age and independent from the class of offense," said Cowart, a Kane County assistant state’s attorney assigned to the Juvenile Delinquency and Abuse & Neglect units.
Under existing law, youths age 15 or older can be excluded from the jurisdiction of the juvenile court and automatically transferred to adult criminal court if they were alleged to have committed certain crimes: first degree murder, aggravated criminal sexual assault, aggravated battery with a firearm where the juvenile personally discharged the firearm, armed robbery committed with a firearm, or aggravated vehicular hijacking committed with a firearm, offenses relating to the sale, possession, and manufacturing of certain weapons on school property.
READ: New Cell Phone Requirements for Talking and Driving Start in 2014
"The good news is that our lives in law enforcement are getting simpler," Cowart wrote.
Under the new law, police officers are required to notify the offender's parents through Juvenile Court Services. They also must follow all procedures and safe-guards for interviewing juveniles, including having a juvenile officer present.
Other existing procedures are the same. Officers still must call felony review for authorization of felonies involving juveniles and prepare a juvenile synopsis in
all cases.
http://www.heyjackass.com/
Something to follow that shows the real numbers.
That's not the real cost SSC. Since most of the ones that would have been killed are "cradle to grave" figure in all the tax money that will be used to support the thugs and leeches that would've taken a dirt nap. The true cost of saving gang banging dope slinging lives is astounding.
ok yes all this for an actual "killing" or "homocide". how about just "shootings" or "aggravated batteries"? we still are having shootings at an alarming rate. are shootings up or down? those are still bad rahmerina and mctoolbag. i bet if those numbers surfaced people would be beyond shocked of those figures. like upwards of a few thousand shootings in a single year in shitcago alone. and how many of these shootings involved blacks and/or hispanics as the offenders? probably 99%. any spineless reporter want to ask those questions?
(OT) Federal District Court Judge William M. Skretny has found that most provisions of NY’s SAFE Act–passed only one month after the Sandy Hook elementary school shooting–do not infringe the Second Amendment.
He did, however, find that the provision that limits magazine capacity to only seven rounds was unconstitutional under the Second Amendment.
cant wait for rahm to start a losing fight on this...
Im still trying to figure out where these low murder totals for 2013 are coming from. This article is about 17 murders off.
I see HeyJackass had 448 listed homicides for the year, compared to the 435 Chicago listed. At least HeyJackass counts ALL the bodies in Chicago. When will the media learn!
Justifiables are in fact homicides, however, they are not murders. Depends on which is being tabulated
Sgt class beginning end of January
Nothing you can say or do is going to change Rahm's mind about VRI. Take the money.
I say let the savage's have at each other and use the money to hire some help and provide a decent raise. They'll probably have to give additional funding to the coroner for a few additional bags?
And all those votes will still be cast on the next few elections.
Every human life has infinite value. So much so that we cannot quantify a human life. What we can quantify is the value of labor. Is the value of the labor of the average Chicago PO worth the amount paid in overtime? Why are the taxpayers even paying overtime in the first place? Chicago pays it's police officers a good salary to start with. Why increase it with overtime. Our military, and many other professionals, work for straight salary and no overtime. Why not the Chicago PD? The mayor has shown that crime can be reduced with a smaller more efficient police force. The next step, the only step, is to stop paying overtime. It is unnecessary and the taxpayers cannot afford it. Each PO's own sense of responsibility and professionalism, should cause him to reject the very concept of overtime pay. Work smart and work until the mission is completed without the need for extra pay.
Your statement isn't even WORTH a response, blow me...
One human killing another is, by definition, a homicide, justifiable or not. Classing it otherwise is just another way they skew the numbers.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I just wanted to take this time time to thank Rahm for not plowing a motherfucking thang today.
1/02/2014 12:42:00 AM
You mean he isn't still in Indonesia?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Every human life has infinite value. So much so that we cannot quantify a human life. What we can quantify is the value of labor. Is the value of the labor of the average Chicago PO worth the amount paid in overtime? Why are the taxpayers even paying overtime in the first place? Chicago pays it's police officers a good salary to start with. Why increase it with overtime. Our military, and many other professionals, work for straight salary and no overtime. Why not the Chicago PD? The mayor has shown that crime can be reduced with a smaller more efficient police force. The next step, the only step, is to stop paying overtime. It is unnecessary and the taxpayers cannot afford it. Each PO's own sense of responsibility and professionalism, should cause him to reject the very concept of overtime pay. Work smart and work until the mission is completed without the need for extra pay.
1/02/2014 07:24:00 AM
You so funny!
More scamming by the Chicago-Communista Regime and their Flying Monkey-Media. What else is New ? Everybody knows Democrats are incompetent and cannot achieve Legitimate results in fixing any problems, therefore the constant LIES, JUST LIKE OBAMACARE. They're ALL ONE-AND-THE-SAME..
Anonymous said...
The author at heyjackass.com has the total number of homicides this year at448. Thats a pretty huge Difference from 415. I'm gonna choose to believe him over this Bogus ass city. How are they that far apart. Definiteley some bullshit in the game on this one. This blatant fraudulent number changing has to violate some type of law.
1/02/2014 12:11:00 AM
*And I'll bet these numbers haven't Cleared the Supt's Office and been submitted to the FBI yet either.
VRI guy 69 said...
Keep paying me $300 a night to help curb the homicides. Hiring new PPO's that walk around stepping in shit for u to handle and their smug attitudes of "they know everything" isn't helping me one bit. The biggest morale boost has been VRI and the city has used it as good press for the down numbers. By the looks of our leadership at FLOP along with the many of officers who don't attend meetings this dr apartment has NO SPINE, NO BACKBONE, NO UNITY. I now only care about me, myself, and I. I paid off all credit cards, installed a new pool, paying down mortgage, , payed tuition for kids, maxing our Deffered Comp, and all ready went on some nice vacations. So now tell me----how is VRI bad????? The best part is my "presence" is all that's needed along with some ghost contact card and (1) Parker. If there is a "hot call" and I'm awake I will respond. Again, me, myself, and I.
He has a point. Easiest $$$ I made in a while. Made things easier.
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And in order to meet state and federal guidelines, Chicago police in 2013 implemented a policy of tabulating homicides in the years the victims were injured instead of the years when they died.
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Hey Jeremy somebody should tell you that the city is blowing smoke up your ass in regards to the above statement in your article. That is not what the federal or IUCR says.... It only applies to an injury not a homicide, you can't go back on a shooting and reclassify that 2 years later, try reading the UCR code manual by the FBI or Illinois state police
1/02/2014 12:38:00 AM
***SO, IN OTHER WORDS, ANOTHER CHICAGO SCAM, Right ? CPD reports Crime differently than all other Jurisdictions and there's NO Accountability ?
Anonymous said...
Rahm Emanuel will continue to tell McDrunk to lie and cook the books. We all know crime is not down, just like the economy is not in a "recovery". VRI will continue to steal money from taxpayers to protect the ghetto.
The fact is VRI is theft from taxpayers. Simple as that. Good people will continue to leave Chicago because of it.
1/02/2014 06:16:00 AM
BLATENY Liese, Deception, and Theft, of Middle-Class Taxpayers Dollars, with ZERO Results.
NY City, far more population, far LESS Murders. CHICAGO, less population than 2011, due to fleeing retirees, residents, and businesses, MORE Murders per Capita. Another SCAM to Rip Off and Bullshit Chicagoland Sheeple Taxpayers.
Anonymous said...
And in order to meet state and federal guidelines, Chicago police in 2013 implemented a policy of tabulating homicides in the years the victims were injured instead of the years when they died.
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Hey Jeremy somebody should tell you that the city is blowing smoke up your ass in regards to the above statement in your article. That is not what the federal or IUCR says.... It only applies to an injury not a homicide, you can't go back on a shooting and reclassify that 2 years later, try reading the UCR code manual by the FBI or Illinois state police
1/02/2014 12:38:00 AM
***SO, IN OTHER WORDS, ANOTHER CHICAGO SCAM, Right ? CPD reports Crime differently than all other Jurisdictions and there's NO Accountability ?
@ 1/02/2014 07:24:00 AM
GFY with your "why pay the cops for their overtime?" bullshit...
You idiots are always trying to benchmark the military to bust Police Officer pay.
You shills hang on to each other and make a big display over crying about the salary numbers printed on a read out.
All things considered, total compensation packages of Police Officers and members of the military aren't as far apart as you present them to be.
You studiously avoid mention of PX/Commissary, government provided medical, housing, travel, uniforms, equipment etc...
You m/fers run with this silly shit like every Chicago Copper is "getting away" with becoming multi-millionaires on the tax payer dime like Rahm Emanuel and Bruce Rauner...
Again we say FUCK YOU and your propaganda...
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so i have over 21 years on. its bad enough in 012 that they denied everyone on midnights new years eve off and half of 3rd watch. but what really gets me pissed off, as they play games with who is off and who is not. so curious minds like to know, the cross guard supervisor is on the sheets to work new years eve and day but i know she was not in. amazing how everyone else has to put slips in and get denied. not her. and she is supposed to be going to 3rd watch this year couldnt make the bid and was not picked up on management on 2nd. so i cant wait to see if she actually goes to third. just fyi people are watching. and if you think for a second fop wont be called on this your are mistaking. but happy new year all.
1/02/2014 08:10:00 AM
If this is true and no one calls FOP or files a grievance, then you have no one to blame but yourselves.
If you are not going to do anything about, then quit complaining on the blog and put up with it. The reason things like this are commonplace on the CPD is nobody beefs
Anonymous said...
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so i have over 21 years on. its bad enough in 012 that they denied everyone on midnights new years eve off and half of 3rd watch. but what really gets me pissed off, as they play games with who is off and who is not. so curious minds like to know, the cross guard supervisor is on the sheets to work new years eve and day but i know she was not in. amazing how everyone else has to put slips in and get denied. not her. and she is supposed to be going to 3rd watch this year couldnt make the bid and was not picked up on management on 2nd. so i cant wait to see if she actually goes to third. just fyi people are watching. and if you think for a second fop wont be called on this your are mistaking. but happy new year all.
1/02/2014 08:10:00 AM
Shit or get off the pot. 21 years on, what are they going to do to you. Management will back down when confronted, especially if you are right
But it's only $1.3 million! Crime is down, dontcha know? McDrunk saz so. Too much money? Take it up with Rahm, after all it's for the kids!
RIP Felix........you were a great guy and a better policeman. I enjoyed our time together. I just wished you were able to retire earlier and enjoy yourself.
A self defense homicide is still a homicide, it just is not murder. I hope they keep that attitude when concealed carry kicks in.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Your $1.3M total is off quite a bit. You forgot to add in the cost of lifetime section 8 vouchers, LINK, Obamaphones, Medicare, insurance premium increases to others from illegal activities, stolen natural gas & electric, etc for every single piece of garbage that isn't dead because their entire neighborhoods are staffed just like the Lincoln Park Zoo. Enough zookeepers to keep the animals from running wild. A beat car on EVERY SINGLE SAFE PASSAGE CORNER?!?!?
1/02/2014 12:58:00 AM
How sad, but how true. This is a topic that NO ONE in the media will ever touch. If there is too much crime in the black areas and too many blacks in jail it is the fault of society and the racist criminal justice system. If you don't believe me just as Toni Preckwinkle.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT
so i have over 21 years on. its bad enough in 012 that they denied everyone on midnights new years eve off and half of 3rd watch. but what really gets me pissed off, as they play games with who is off and who is not. so curious minds like to know, the cross guard supervisor is on the sheets to work new years eve and day but i know she was not in. amazing how everyone else has to put slips in and get denied. not her. and she is supposed to be going to 3rd watch this year couldnt make the bid and was not picked up on management on 2nd. so i cant wait to see if she actually goes to third. just fyi people are watching. and if you think for a second fop wont be called on this your are mistaking. but happy new year all.
1/02/2014 08:10:00 AM
If you have 21 yrs on, you know that denying time on New Year's Eve has pretty much been the norm since 2000. Unless you show them plane tickets or you have a wedding planned, you can pretty much forget it. It's one of those things civilians don't 'get' about our job (but you should).
And, if the crossing guard supervisor is being dumped to a watch, any copper with 21 yrs on should know how to deal with her from here on out. Be creative. We know you have it in you.
McCompost better be careful that the December McTrend in murders doesn't continue into January and beyond. He and his NY Ilk really know how to stroke themselves at how they turned around homicides in New York and Chicago.
To the VRI guys who only care about themselves. What will you say when your 70 and there is no pension check for you. Every time a copper works VRI it means there is one less person paying into the pension. I hope that those who work VRI save enough for the day no pension money gets deposited into your account.
so....why not save the overtime $, and forget about the other numbers?.....VRI?.....get rid of it....
Another department asking here, are the Ford Explorers still tight for those over 6 foot, same thing for the Taurus if anyone has ridden in them?
Anonymous said...
Talking about money?
OT: The City Wide team has put up their web site.
City Wide Team 101 - Great Propaganda!
Just remember how Obama lied to all of us the last year on multiple topics? The only reason that I would bring that up is that Mark Donahue is a HUGE Obama supporter. But what should bother everyone is that this guy will actually be the President of the Lodge. Not just a lowly trustee. Bill Dougherty does not have the skill set to be President. Billy will just be Mark’s puppet. Mark is obsessed with being in control. Many of you may not know but Mark gets a full Detectives pension and gets $75,000.00 as our lobbyist in Springfield. Does Mark need to get an additional $600 a month of our money? Mark while President also cost us over a million dollars in lawsuits and over payment of legal bills.
Mark did not get one vote to change during the State Pension reform debate and vote. On the City’s employees at the Park District hearing Mark signed in support of the Bill. It passed. Rahm said this will be his blueprint for the rest of the City Employee’s! It wasn’t until the SIEU retirees (who can not for officers in their union) raised a stink that the President of SIEU said she wanted Quinn to do an amendatory veto and Mark said he made a mistake and signed in on the wrong sheet. Mark Donahue and Bill Dougherty both pushed very hard for Fran Hurley to be the state Rep for the 19th ward. She has not voted once against any pension reform bill.
Bill Dougherty has made a half a million dollars in the last three years. On top of that WE have over the last 11-1/2 years have paid a lot of OUR FOP money to support his hockey team and softball teams. Bill has also used his position to get his wife a job at the Chicago Police Credit Union. I would not even bring this up except that Bill is making a lot of money from US. Was this job advertised so a P.O. who may have dire financial needs was afforded the same chance to get his wife the job? But this last one takes the cake. A couple of summers ago I stopped by FOP to use the rest room while working special. There was a grade school kid in the Gift Shop folding tee shirts. It was Dougherty’s kid. The two retirees working the store a midget female and bald older guy said he was making the same as they were. When is enough a enough? Mark and Bill have both used the lodge as their personal piggy bank for over a decade.
And lastly for today they are running a retired Sgt. for trustee? Mike Voight the cheapist man on the face of the earth. Are you F-ing kidding me? This guy made a fool out of himself since he retired. He goes to homeless shelters for a free meals, shows up at the union hall when there is no reason for him to be there except someone has food there, and still puts on his vest a pretends to still be the police to eat in restaurants that are free to us. He even has a bull shit scanner set to CW1. There have been other guys who made Sgt. while they were trustees but they all had class. This guy is the exception to the rule.
It’s time for these three goofs to just go away!
1/02/2014 02:31:00 AM
Shields you need to stay off the blog and I can not wait to see you when you get to 18.
Talking about money?
OT: The City Wide team has put up their web site.
City Wide Team 101 - Great Propaganda!
Many of you may not know but Mark gets a full Detectives pension and gets $75,000.00 as our lobbyist in Springfield.
Bill Dougherty has made a half a million dollars in the last three years.
And lastly for today they are running a retired Sgt. for trustee?
It’s time for these three goofs to just go away!
1/02/2014 02:31:00 AM
Yeah Dean keep spreading your own B.S. YOU'VE collected 12 years OUR pension money on disability!! Mike Lappe was shot in the line of duty and is far more disabled than your slick ass and he still demanded to work as a POLICEMAN!
7.24am.....are you for real?
also to 7.24am,,,,It is apparent that you aren't the Police, most likely an old hippie or worse-a college professor.
Most of the people in the ghetto are hard working and aren't blights on society. 95% of the persons shot and killed are true blights on society and those are the ones who aren't worth saving and will only keep on taking from society.
Singing Kumbaya and throwing more social programs and money at them will not save these savages-yes, they are savages.
Did anybody else listen to McILoveMyself on WLS-AM around 230?
This guy is so full of shit and Roeper was doing a great job of verbal fellatio on Ol' Garry
FOP get you're head out of your ass. You have no problem texting the Sun Times to save you're ass. Or calling press conferences to saved you're ass. There fucking with our pensions!!!!!! 94 million dollars in VRI!!!! 500 million for DePaul's stadium. 50 million for Maggie's Park. Selling the skyway and meters. I would love to see us come together as brothers and sisters in blue that walk the line between the savages and civility. These pompous liberals better look at the demographics of the city. The Flash mobs are just foreplay. Imagine in April no one signs up for VRI. Imagine one week of no revenue generated by us. Our neighborhoods that we live in and our families are left unprotected. Millions of dollars for the dogs!!! The Bronx Ball Sack and Tiny Dancer do not care about our families. Then why the fuck hasn't FOP given the drunk a Vote of No Confidence? Quick to condemn Weis. He didn't close down districts or change the Detectives Division. Not to mention fuck up everything about our police department. One bad decision with Cozzi that Kirby advised him on. Martin, Rodriguez, Hillard, and Cline big fat zeros who did Daley's bidding. Weis was the best thing that happened to us. What's right is right!!!! 94 million dollars in VRI!!!!! Not one extra dime in raises for us. At least Weis published all the Meritorious Names. Guys like Wiberg and Cline couldn't hide behind their Daddy. Both tried to make Lt under Weis but he didn't bow down to them. We have a drunk as our Supt. and a FOP president that was the Mayor's whipping boy. I am so ashamed to be CPD!!!
As usual the children once again have to be told that the City counts MURDERS, not homicides.
If it is not a MURDER is does not count, no matter how hard you stomp your feet or throw your toys around.
Get over it!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
“The Cook County medical examiner’s office reported 443 homicides as of Friday, including 13 police-involved shootings, three killings on expressways investigated by Illinois State Police and other deaths that Chicago Police either ruled justified or remain under investigation.”
This is from an article in the Sun Times before the end of the year so the final number would be higher.
Why does the city have much different numbers?
http://homicides.suntimes.com/2013/12/28/progress-not-success-chicago-tallies-fewest-murders-since-1965/
1/02/2014 10:49:00 AM
So Emanuel can trumpet "Crime is Down!" even though it isn't true.
To bad Saddam didn't have McCarthy to spin his nonsense,unfortunately we are stuck with "Bud Lt Bob" spewing this crap to the cameras.
Better doctors are really why the murder rate is down.
What are the number for agg batts compared to he years past hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
Hold us down waiting for a car ! No cars in the city of Chicago so proud of the tools were given
Dean Angelo. PhD, is and always will be a total slug.
Collecting 75 % for a BS IOD. He worked as a dick in B and A, and was more useless then then the fly stickey hanging from the ceiling. Get' his BS degreee' from sub=par colleges and brags about him being a doctor !!
Angelo is only looking out for himself and all the check's he can get into his account with no work required.
FOP is in bad shape with vultures like him flying over the building.
But UCR counts homicides. Thanks for your input though Chief Tracy.
According to UCR it still counts in the totals. But not according to McCompstat.
Detective Division is complicent in the coverup, sitting on Death Investigations and not promptly re-classifying them to Murders. Once again the Taxpayers are scammed and raped of their Tax Dollars by the lying Democommunist Regime of Chicago , covering up for their abject failures with Lie after Lie after Lie.
1/02/2014 09:06:00 AM
It's absolutely disgusting what has happened to the Detective Division lately. Lost all integrity.
Anonymous said...
Every human life has infinite value. So much so that we cannot quantify a human life. What we can quantify is the value of labor. Is the value of the labor of the average Chicago PO worth the amount paid in overtime? Why are the taxpayers even paying overtime in the first place? Chicago pays it's police officers a good salary to start with. Why increase it with overtime. Our military, and many other professionals, work for straight salary and no overtime. Why not the Chicago PD? The mayor has shown that crime can be reduced with a smaller more efficient police force. The next step, the only step, is to stop paying overtime. It is unnecessary and the taxpayers cannot afford it. Each PO's own sense of responsibility and professionalism, should cause him to reject the very concept of overtime pay. Work smart and work until the mission is completed without the need for extra pay.
1/02/2014 07:24:00 AM
So now the city hall press office is posting on this blog. Very interesting.
Why? Cause this department is filled with 85% do nothings. Same ole detectives/ gang/tact and go getters in court. U have units that are required to have RCI'S and do warrants, however units produce jack Nathan. More worried about Parker's so I can get my vri. Gang units writing fucking parking tickets. U lazy ass mf how about a box 1 arrest. U only work 20-21 days in a cycle and you can't produce that. Wow.
1/02/2014 06:35:00 PM
You said it!!! We should be ashamed at how we treated Weis. We are total losers for voting for an idiot like Shields. At lease Weis didn't fuck us like McScotch. I agree with this.
6:35 PM
Cowardice and leadership are mutually exclusive.
J-FLED is a shameless, lying COWARD.
Respond or STFU.
VRI guy 69 said...
Keep paying me $300 a night to help curb the homicides. Hiring new PPO's that walk around stepping in shit for u to handle and their smug attitudes of "they know everything" isn't helping me one bit. The biggest morale boost has been VRI and the city has used it as good press for the down numbers. By the looks of our leadership at FLOP along with the many of officers who don't attend meetings this dr apartment has NO SPINE, NO BACKBONE, NO UNITY. I now only care about me, myself, and I. I paid off all credit cards, installed a new pool, paying down mortgage, , payed tuition for kids, maxing our Deffered Comp, and all ready went on some nice vacations. So now tell me----how is VRI bad????? The best part is my "presence" is all that's needed along with some ghost contact card and (1) Parker. If there is a "hot call" and I'm awake I will respond. Again, me, myself, and I.
1/02/2014 07:24:00 AM
If you care only about yourself, it's the easy way to go. If you use your head and realize that Rahm and the city are pimping you to keep from hiring new cops that will pay into the pension you expect to collect you would understand that you are cutting your own throat.
But you really don't care and will be the loudest complainer when they fuck you. In short, you are a short sighted moron.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Every human life has infinite value. So much so that we cannot quantify a human life. What we can quantify is the value of labor. Is the value of the labor of the average Chicago PO worth the amount paid in overtime? Why are the taxpayers even paying overtime in the first place? Chicago pays it's police officers a good salary to start with. Why increase it with overtime. Our military, and many other professionals, work for straight salary and no overtime. Why not the Chicago PD? The mayor has shown that crime can be reduced with a smaller more efficient police force. The next step, the only step, is to stop paying overtime. It is unnecessary and the taxpayers cannot afford it. Each PO's own sense of responsibility and professionalism, should cause him to reject the very concept of overtime pay. Work smart and work until the mission is completed without the need for extra pay.
1/02/2014 07:24:00 AM
A great percentage of our police officers are from "our military" as I am and you're on your own with this one. I don't recall the mayor showing crime can't be reduced and I don't recall seeing a more efficient police force either. Either you are being sarcastic or you're seriously in over your head if you think police work can be completed during your regular working hours. Every police officer has worked some overtime where despite the nice money they preferred to be home but the work dictated them staying, not their greed. By the way, military straight pay is horrible. The bonuses and incentive pay keep people in, not the straight pay. When the other professionals that work for straight pay start risking civil litigation and bodily harm EVERY TIME they go to work for doing their job the correct way...then they'll ask for overtime too. You are a part of the crybaby, thankless and non appreciative culture we have created in this nation. You'll see what else the taxpayers (WHICH ALL COPS ARE) can't afford if they get a chance to further destroy CPD playing salary games. There's a pd out west, maybe San Jose or San Diego that is trying to figure out how to increase their candidate pool because less people are turning out. You want less experienced officers? You want to pay thousands hiring and training officers who leave to the burbs? Go ahead.
Wait !! With the January weather being as brutal as it is crime will drop even more because there is nobody outside. Murders and shootings will decrease from last year and McDoofus will really be bragging about his ability come the end of the month.
Anonymous said...
Every human life has infinite value. So much so that we cannot quantify a human life. What we can quantify is the value of labor. Is the value of the labor of the average Chicago PO worth the amount paid in overtime? Why are the taxpayers even paying overtime in the first place? Chicago pays it's police officers a good salary to start with. Why increase it with overtime. Our military, and many other professionals, work for straight salary and no overtime. Why not the Chicago PD? The mayor has shown that crime can be reduced with a smaller more efficient police force. The next step, the only step, is to stop paying overtime. It is unnecessary and the taxpayers cannot afford it. Each PO's own sense of responsibility and professionalism, should cause him to reject the very concept of overtime pay. Work smart and work until the mission is completed without the need for extra pay.
1/02/2014 07:24:00 AM
Let me guess. You make overtime. You also never served in the military or as a cop. You certainly never put yourself in harms way. Go fuck yourself.
Anonymous said...
Better doctors are really why the murder rate is down.
What are the number for agg batts compared to he years past hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
1/02/2014 10:21:00 PM
Yea, right. Then why doesn't the mayor have the hospitals hire more doctors and really stop homicides
I've never seen a doctor save a victim with a few bullets through his brain or with a knife stuck in his heart
Anonymous said...
Talking about money?
OT: The City Wide team has put up their web site.
City Wide Team 101 - Great Propaganda!
Many of you may not know but Mark gets a full Detectives pension and gets $75,000.00 as our lobbyist in Springfield.
Bill Dougherty has made a half a million dollars in the last three years.
And lastly for today they are running a retired Sgt. for trustee?
It’s time for these three goofs to just go away!
1/02/2014 02:31:00 AM
Yeah Dean keep spreading your own B.S. YOU'VE collected 12 years OUR pension money on disability!! Mike Lappe was shot in the line of duty and is far more disabled than your slick ass and he still demanded to work as a POLICEMAN!
Mark gets pension based on his fop president salary so about $160,000 per year pension nice looting the pension!
Dean Angelo. PhD, is and always will be a total slug.
Collecting 75 % for a BS IOD. He worked as a dick in B and A, and was more useless then then the fly stickey hanging from the ceiling. Get' his BS degreee' from sub=par colleges and brags about him being a doctor !!
Angelo is only looking out for himself and all the check's he can get into his account with no work required.
FOP is in bad shape with vultures like him flying over the building.
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Ummm, yea okay. Where did Bill Dougherty go to college? Crickets! I'm no fan of Angelo Sr., but at least this man has a degree. I want someone with an education leading the FOP not one of "dem" guys, if you catch my drift.
Since we're talking about degrees, did Golden Boy Kevin Graham even graduate from northwestern business college? That's what I want to know.
Anonymous said...
Dean Angelo. PhD, is and always will be a total slug.
Collecting 75 % for a BS IOD. He worked as a dick in B and A, and was more useless then then the fly stickey hanging from the ceiling. Get' his BS degreee' from sub=par colleges and brags about him being a doctor !!
Angelo is only looking out for himself and all the check's he can get into his account with no work required.
FOP is in bad shape with vultures like him flying over the building.
1/02/2014 11:04:00 PM
Interesting. Do you feel the same way about Donahue running for trustee.
Yeah Dean keep spreading your own B.S. YOU'VE collected 12 years OUR pension money on disability!! Mike Lappe was shot in the line of duty and is far more disabled than your slick ass and he still demanded to work as a POLICEMAN!
1/02/2014 05:42:00 PM
Mike got taken care of. I like Mike but he is not or never will be close to full duty. Anyone with time on the job should know that rules are never applied equally. I rather have the 3rd floor full of HONEST people in wheel chairs than the den of thieves that are up there now!
Shields you need to stay off the blog and I can not wait to see you when you get to 18.
1/02/2014 05:38:00 PM
Sorry Hans wrong answer! Would you like to try for double jeopardy where the scores can really change!
Detective Division is complicent in the coverup, sitting on Death Investigations and not promptly re-classifying them to Murders. Once again the Taxpayers are scammed and raped of their Tax Dollars by the lying Democommunist Regime of Chicago , covering up for their abject failures with Lie after Lie after Lie.
1/02/2014 09:06:00 AM
It's absolutely disgusting what has happened to the Detective Division lately. Lost all integrity.
1/02/2014 11:55:00 PM
Escalante should be ashamed of himself.
1/02/2014 06:35:00 PM
You said it!!! We should be ashamed at how we treated Weis. We are total losers for voting for an idiot like Shields. At lease Weis didn't fuck us like McScotch. I agree with this.
1/03/2014 12:55:00 AM
We treated Weis with the same contempt he had for us. That person has NEVER had a lick of policing experience, is a total camera-hog and is nothing but a poseur. (Yes, I spelled it correctly.)
Figures often beguile me, particularly when I have the arranging of them myself; in which case the remark attributed to Disraeli would often apply with justice and force: "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Mark Twain's Own Autobiography: The Chapters from the North American Review
Box 1 on an arrest only means your the primary court officer for the case, basically it don't mean shit in the big picture. For example for you do nothing new guys.....narc surveillance set up, enforcement cars, and processing guys.... You grab 2-3. Buyers then scoop up the seller. All PCS and DCS charged accordingly. The catch you don't put the eye ball officer in box 1 you put maybe the enforcement guy or processing guy since they only testify to the PC and the trial isn't conducted at the prelim. The PD can't ask questions normally asked at a trial since it's a PC hearing but if the surveillance officer testifies then it jeopardizes the case from advancing and thus possible killing some decent OT......so get some time on and some EXPERIENCE, kid.......
Let's see who you got for FOP......hmmmmm
Kevin " I forgave the city $23,000,000.00" Graham p.s footman w/ SS dog for 20 years
Dean "the professor" Angelo Phd.......hahahahahahahaha
Bill "fore" Dougherty VP...I got the next round, charge it to my fop account......
Mark " the half million dollar man" Donahue....paid fop lobbyist.......laughing all the way to the bank on YOUR dime.........
And rhamie the commie lining up million dollar attorneys to take it to fop.......
We'll if this is it YOUR SCREWED!!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous said...
1/02/2014 06:35:00 PM
You said it!!! We should be ashamed at how we treated Weis. We are total losers for voting for an idiot like Shields. At lease Weis didn't fuck us like McScotch. I agree with this.
1/03/2014 12:55:00 AM
We treated Weis with the same contempt he had for us. That person has NEVER had a lick of policing experience, is a total camera-hog and is nothing but a poseur. (Yes, I spelled it correctly.)
1/03/2014 01:29:00 PM
Without the monumental screwup of having Cozzi sent to prison, the guy was not as bad as what came before or after him. He got us Tahoes, carbines and the 4-2 work schedule. If he had better advice he could have won over the rank and file. Screwing Cozzi destroyed any chance he had of getting people behind him.
But life is priceless
Michael Lappe should be taken care of you dick wad! He does more work than 99 percent of the inside people who have been taken care of their whole career. So go f*** yourself :O
McBeerbreath taking lessons from LIAR in Chief Obama, and his little ballerina-puppet.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Every human life has infinite value. So much so that we cannot quantify a human life. What we can quantify is the value of labor. Is the value of the labor of the average Chicago PO worth the amount paid in overtime? Why are the taxpayers even paying overtime in the first place? Chicago pays it's police officers a good salary to start with. Why increase it with overtime. Our military, and many other professionals, work for straight salary and no overtime. Why not the Chicago PD? The mayor has shown that crime can be reduced with a smaller more efficient police force. The next step, the only step, is to stop paying overtime. It is unnecessary and the taxpayers cannot afford it. Each PO's own sense of responsibility and professionalism, should cause him to reject the very concept of overtime pay. Work smart and work until the mission is completed without the need for extra pay.
1/02/2014 07:24:00 AM
I've got a idea. Since you want to talk about sense of responsibility and professionalism I'll counter with you're sense of duty and community participation. Take you're liberal communist ass to 79th and Stony Island at about 0200 hours and spread you're love and peace. Come on teach us about working smart. Teach us about what our mission is. And finally....... Fuck off. I get paid what I'm worth. 400 hundred dollars a day if it's my day off. You don't like it then hire security guards. Who the fuck do you think you are? Christmas I worked. Christmas Eve late arrest. New Years Eve I worked. Now you're going to lecture me on responsibility and professionalism. Take a look at our non existent training records or fucked up computer system or beat up squad cars. Take a look at LAPD and how their officers are treated. Fuck you lady. You know nothing about our world. Zero. Keep fucking with us and remember how fast the savage can cross you're imaginary lines of safety and fund raisers. I know how to deal with the ghetto. You bitch have no idea. Keep blowing Rham and being his little whore. No one pimps me or any of my officers out. You found 500 million dollars for DePaul. Great!! 2014 VRI will cost you more. Why? I am praying for 80 degrees in February. Reading you're post pissed me off cause you're just an ignorant bitch!!!!
Every human life has infinite value. So much so that we cannot quantify a human life. What we can quantify is the value of labor. Is the value of the labor of the average Chicago PO worth the amount paid in overtime? Why are the taxpayers even paying overtime in the first place? Chicago pays it's police officers a good salary to start with. Why increase it with overtime. Our military, and many other professionals, work for straight salary and no overtime. Why not the Chicago PD? The mayor has shown that crime can be reduced with a smaller more efficient police force. The next step, the only step, is to stop paying overtime. It is unnecessary and the taxpayers cannot afford it. Each PO's own sense of responsibility and professionalism, should cause him to reject the very concept of overtime pay. Work smart and work until the mission is completed without the need for extra pay.
After you're done blowing the mayor come to the 006th District on midnight and blow me. What a stupid bitch you are. Come on spring. Come on ghetto. Show you're true colors. The predator comes out when it's warm. The predator doesn't like the cold. His clever brain freezes. But 2014 will be the best year for murders in Chicago. I predict over 700 murders. Let the body's hit the floor.
FOP get you're head out of your ass. You have no problem texting the Sun Times to save you're ass. Or calling press conferences to saved you're ass. There fucking with our pensions!!!!!! 94 million dollars in VRI!!!! 500 million for DePaul's stadium. 50 million for Maggie's Park. Selling the skyway and meters. I would love to see us come together as brothers and sisters in blue that walk the line between the savages and civility. These pompous liberals better look at the demographics of the city. The Flash mobs are just foreplay. Imagine in April no one signs up for VRI. Imagine one week of no revenue generated by us. Our neighborhoods that we live in and our families are left unprotected. Millions of dollars for the dogs!!! The Bronx Ball Sack and Tiny Dancer do not care about our families. Then why the fuck hasn't FOP given the drunk a Vote of No Confidence? Quick to condemn Weis. He didn't close down districts or change the Detectives Division. Not to mention fuck up everything about our police department. One bad decision with Cozzi that Kirby advised him on. Martin, Rodriguez, Hillard, and Cline big fat zeros who did Daley's bidding. Weis was the best thing that happened to us. What's right is right!!!! 94 million dollars in VRI!!!!! Not one extra dime in raises for us. At least Weis published all the Meritorious Names. Guys like Wiberg and Cline couldn't hide behind their Daddy. Both tried to make Lt under Weis but he didn't bow down to them. We have a drunk as our Supt. and a FOP president that was the Mayor's whipping boy. I am so ashamed to be CPD!!!
1/02/2014 06:35:00 PM
Right on!! Great rant! Truth be told Weis was not bad.
Without the monumental screwup of having Cozzi sent to prison, the guy was not as bad as what came before or after him. He got us Tahoes, carbines and the 4-2 work schedule. If he had better advice he could have won over the rank and file. Screwing Cozzi destroyed any chance he had of getting people behind him.
1/03/2014 10:09:00 PM
You love the guy because he ordered squad cars and we started carrying rifles?! Those are tools of the trade! That's like an apprentice carpenter thanking his boss for letting him use a hammer and saw.
I will grant you the four and two schedule was all him. This was a pathetic attempt by Jody to get us to like him. Very similar to a kid at school trying to get the guys to like him by giving them money or letting him have his toys. The schedule is a waste. Coppers sitting around the station or leaving early because there are no cars with this overlapping watch system.
The taxpayers should string Jody up when they see him wandering around town. He was a pathetic leader that screwed the taxpayer trying to get people to like him. If he had a brain and a clue he would be properly embarrassed and leave town. He is still here. Big surprise.
J-FLED on 1/2; 6:35 PM
Thousands have listened to your two conflicting radio interviews about a year apart on the following audiotape. COWARDICE AND LEADERSHIP ARE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE!
J-FLED CUTS AND RUNS
Why don't you post with your name, you yellow-bellied piece of shit?
Shall I tell convicted felon Bill Cozzi that the rat muthafuckah wishes him a happy, healthy and prosperous new year?
"GOTTA RUN!"
Right on!! Great rant! Truth be told Weis was not bad.
1/04/2014 07:50:00 AM
True; he wasn't bad - he was horrendous. Oh, and treacherous.
Without the monumental screwup of having Cozzi sent to prison, the guy was not as bad as what came before or after him. He got us Tahoes, carbines and the 4-2 work schedule. If he had better advice he could have won over the rank and file. Screwing Cozzi destroyed any chance he had of getting people behind him.
Couldnt agree more The rank and file have their priorities right. You dont fuck over a man and his life and expect a few Tahoes,carbines and a work schedule can replace that. That is FBI thinking. CPD has more loyalty and realizes if it can happen to Cozzi it can happen to you
His second big screw up which was up there wit the first was to have a group of young,no time on the job, cuties dictating policy. They were the last people to have in the policy group I was on the job almost 40 years, I know not smart thing to do, but I counld name 100 guys that actually belopnged on the group, but had no chance. If only the supt would seek out advice from the right guys and not the suck holes
But things never change , enough of my rant off to watchthe Bulls and the NFL playoffs. You guys hang in there and make the CPD proud without the bosses
Anonymous said...
Without the monumental screwup of having Cozzi sent to prison, the guy was not as bad as what came before or after him. He got us Tahoes, carbines and the 4-2 work schedule. If he had better advice he could have won over the rank and file. Screwing Cozzi destroyed any chance he had of getting people behind him.
1/03/2014 10:09:00 PM
You love the guy because he ordered squad cars and we started carrying rifles?! Those are tools of the trade! That's like an apprentice carpenter thanking his boss for letting him use a hammer and saw.
I will grant you the four and two schedule was all him.
1/04/2014 10:58:00 AM
Where in my post do I say I love the guy? I said "the guy was not as bad as what came before or after him." Not as bad is not the same as loved the guy. What about every top guy since Fred Rice, when I came on? Those bosses wouldn't let us carry anything other than revolvers with lead bullets. It took years to get semi-auto hi capacity 9mm pistols approved.
They had 1911 model .45's approved for a long time with zero training. That lasted until an AD got a PO killed by his partner in September, 1986. Not the weapon's fault but rather the shit training provided by this department. Or no training. This department was always 40 years behind the times, if even that modern. They still had teletype machines from the 1930's in each district in 1990. That was how arrest info was transmitted and messages were transmitted citywide. Fax machines? What's that. We didn't have them as late as 1990-91.
And fingerprint cards were sent by 300 baud modems via acoustic couplers across regular phone lines. That too was in the 1990's
Computers in the cars? Ha! 4 line red screens. Took forever to run a plate or a name. I was talking to an Evanston PO back then. They monitored our zone. He wondered why it took 15 minutes, on a good day, to get a name or license check done. He showed me their computer in the car. It seemed like Star Wars compared to our shit. They got a plate back in 7 seconds!
So yes, anyone who worked to get us to within 20 years of up to date with training and equipment was not as bad as homegrown CPD idiot bosses.
Weiss fucked up big time with Cozzi. No doubt. He lost the department rank and file then and there.
And I know, Johnny Northside will go on another Coward J-Fled rant, no doubt. Have at it.
Jody was right about something else too, if you give a copper a gold bar, he will complain about how heavy it is.
They had 1911 model .45's approved for a long time with zero training. That lasted until an AD got a PO killed by his partner in September, 1986. Not the weapon's fault but rather the shit training provided by this department. Or no training. This department was always 40 years behind the times, if even that modern. They still had teletype machines from the 1930's in each district in 1990. That was how arrest info was transmitted and messages were transmitted citywide. Fax machines? What's that. We didn't have them as late as 1990-91.
And fingerprint cards were sent by 300 baud modems via acoustic couplers across regular phone lines. That too was in the 1990's
Computers in the cars? Ha! 4 line red screens. Took forever to run a plate or a name. I was talking to an Evanston PO back then. They monitored our zone. He wondered why it took 15 minutes, on a good day, to get a name or license check done. He showed me their computer in the car. It seemed like Star Wars compared to our shit. They got a plate back in 7 seconds!
So yes, anyone who worked to get us to within 20 years of up to date with training and equipment was not as bad as homegrown CPD idiot bosses.
Weiss fucked up big time with Cozzi. No doubt. He lost the department rank and file then and there.
And I know, Johnny Northside will go on another Coward J-Fled rant, no doubt. Have at it.
Jody was right about something else too, if you give a copper a gold bar, he will complain about how heavy it is.
1/06/2014 01:42:00 PM
No doubt brother you are or were the REAL police. Everything you said 100 percent correct. Weis was the best Supt compared to LeRoy Martin on down. He fucked up royally with Cozzi and who knows what the fuck he was thinking by not responding to the shots fired but overal I would give him an 8 out of 10. BRING WEIS BACK!!!!!
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