Concealed Carry Permits
You might have a spouse or relative who could benefit from carrying a concealed weapon.
It appears to be a user-friendly website with most of the pertinent questions answered easily. It also seems to work much better than any ObamaCare website we've heard of.
Now if only the Department would get off their asses and come up with some actual training for officers, that would be nice.
Now if only the Department would get off their asses and come up with some actual training for officers, that would be nice.
Labels: gun issues
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
72 Comments:
Baby steps I suppose. Though ya gotta appreciate the need for a FOID if you live in illinois. Anyone else? No, of course not.
So what happens to the permit fees that went for a Chicago permit a couple of years ago with mandatory firearms instruction, with a certified instructor? Can this classroom time count toward the State? Probably not, what a rip off! That city permit money went out the window! Too bad people don't sue for a refund!
The city is not concerned with training us because there's no money in it. Not like field force training or nims training. Of course you would think that civil law suits file against the police dept would concern them.
How does this affect LEO's, in regards to the NO GUN signs that are posted?
Concealed Carry may be legal in Cook Co., but it ain't popular or wanted by county leadership, or City leadership. People that choose to carry in Chicago and Cook Co., are going to find that they run into all sorts of problems and roadblocks, it you know what I mean.
I wouldn't put it past the machine to arrange for the online process to be sabotaged in order to not issue permits. This is the machine we are talking about that cares little for obeying Laws & upholding the Constitution.
Here's a question that maybe the great minds at SCC can answer! Now with concealed carry, will it still be a felony at airports? Of all the people arrested for "attempting to board plane with weapon" the percentage of felons carrying are slim more like none! Example: now your flying, and you truly forget your gun in your carry in your bag,tsa searches bag finds gun no record your immediately charged with a felony thereby putting you in jeopardy of losing you career, convictions are rare in court,you pay thousands to a connected crook county style attorney, sit in county jail for at least a night,your name is plastered all over the news ( as our news affairs trumps it as if it is a big arrest)!
Now we all know you should check you bag before flying of course, but what if you forget, are in a hurry, why not make this a fine albeit a big fine, and take the weapon? This would be more productive than wasting time in court, and we would still get the money from fined, use that money to contribute to a worthwhile charity such as the police memorial that would be change we could believe in!
if youre a PO who's stripped can we apply for concealed carry?
If you're about to retire, forget that H.R. 218 nonsense. Go with a concealed carry permit instead. Its only $150 for 5 years compared to $100 every year.
Does anybody even know what the license/card will look like or how to verify them.
They don't have time for the training. Safe Passage is too important.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Vehicle mounted Lock boxes for storing weapons while Officers sort things out would be great. And training on various types of pistols and related trigger systems as well. Many, many folks coming on in the last 10 years(or better) have never seen or heard of a 1911. Everyone should be trained to understand the safety and clear these pistols.And yes, you may see some permit jackass trying to carry an AR pistol. Likely I myself will turn to the time proven snubnose!
"Some actual training for officers", what and not give Rahmula and McIdiot the chance to say "we told you so" when something goes terribly wrong because of a lack of it? Surely you jest . . .
We did get training silly, didn't you see Gary's press conference telling everyone that his officers will just shoot armed citizens.
How about the new state laws drawn up by "Jello Quinn" and "Moron Madigan". Did they go to law school? It must have been night school at the degree mill John Marshall. The court thee out there gun law in record time because of them banning guns shops. 49 other states can creat a workable law but not Illinois. How embarrassing !
Not a word from the States Attorney Office, nor my Department. Nothing. And don't even call for a UUW. Here we go!
It is mind boggling that there hasn't at least been a streaming video on this topic! Fucking this up could cost an officer his career, possibly his home. This is a MAJOR, job altering shift in a Department where "get a gun, go home" still applies.
Tread lightly, officers. Hunt down the shitheads with guns if it satisfies you, but please think twice before putting cuffs on "Joe America" for having the audacity to enter a Starbuck's with a concealed weapon. Self-preservation should be at an all time high!
Stay safe!
http://www.azcentral.com/community/glendale/articles/20140106glendale-mall-shooting-sparked-by-fake-gun-abrk.html
Talk to LEO's from the other 49 states howmany calls they get about folks who are just ccw and not doing anything wrong. My guess is very few calls. Why then are we reinventing the wheel. Where by the way is the Training board on this. You have folks going through the various academies through out the state and no one has any training on how to handle this.
The failure to train issue may shift $$$ liability to the city from the officer in those lawsuits
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Website is user friendly. Problem is getting the electronic Id number to get on the site. The site for the electronic id requires your computer to have Java which Mac does not support. It also will not work with new versions of Internet Explorer so new Windows PC's are not supported. You need a PC with an older version of Internet Explorer. Once you have the id the State Police website for ccw is easy.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Here's a question that maybe the great minds at SCC can answer! Now with concealed carry, will it still be a felony at airports? Of all the people arrested for "attempting to board plane with weapon" the percentage of felons carrying are slim more like none! Example: now your flying, and you truly forget your gun in your carry in your bag,tsa searches bag finds gun no record your immediately charged with a felony thereby putting you in jeopardy of losing you career, convictions are rare in court,you pay thousands to a connected crook county style attorney, sit in county jail for at least a night,your name is plastered all over the news ( as our news affairs trumps it as if it is a big arrest)!
Now we all know you should check you bag before flying of course, but what if you forget, are in a hurry, why not make this a fine albeit a big fine, and take the weapon? This would be more productive than wasting time in court, and we would still get the money from fined, use that money to contribute to a worthwhile charity such as the police memorial that would be change we could believe in!
1/07/2014 03:49:00 AM
You are blithely unaware of the difference between State law and Federal law.
03:49:00
Here's an answer for you. If you make it all the way to a tsa checkpoint with a gun still in your possession, your a idiot and deserve what you get. I have checked in a gun with my checked luggage numerous times and the only thought on my mind the whole way to the airport was making sure I do everything right with regards to the firearm. If you carry a gun and forget you have it, you don't need to be carrying one.
It's funny to read these comments from cops who have been stuck in a brainwashed socialist city for so long while 49 other states have lived free.
No, you can't get on an airplane with a CCW. Just like 49 other stated haven't had a problem with this.
No, law enforcement isn't affected by the no gun signs. You're exempt nation wide under that bill that the evil George Bush passed allowing you to carry in every state.
No this won't be the Wild West. Well, then again, it is already. This will probably be an improvement now that savages know their prey could be armed.
Wake up, coppers. The rest of America is here to welcome you back to freedom and the American way. Sorry you still have socialists in your government, but you voted for them and the bankruptcy that comes with them.
Anonymous said...
How does this affect LEO's, in regards to the NO GUN signs that are posted?
1/07/2014 12:53:00 AM
Are you serious? One they shouldn't see it. Two if they do and ask you to leave, leave. No crime committed.
Wake up, coppers. The rest of America is here to welcome you back to freedom and the American way. Sorry you still have socialists in your government, but you voted for them and the bankruptcy that comes with them.
Actually, we didn't. We're outnumbered here jagoff. We've supported Concealed Carry for years and it's just now that the courts are enforcing the Constitution here.
And yes, you may see some permit jackass trying to carry an AR pistol.
Already have my ankle length leather trench coat. and one point sling. You gotta problem wit dat.
Anonymous said...
If you're about to retire, forget that H.R. 218 nonsense. Go with a concealed carry permit instead. Its only $150 for 5 years compared to $100 every year.
1/07/2014 07:39:00 AM
Are you fucking crazy? The Illinois CCW is ONLY good in Illinois, NO ONE ELSE will honor it because IL will NOT recognize theirs. HR 218 permit is good in ALL 50 states!! Idiot!!
To the PO stripped! You can apply for a concealed carry permit as long as you have a valid foid card... The department cannot stop you from your rights. However you still have no police powers.
It is mind boggling that there hasn't at least been a streaming video on this topic! Fucking this up could cost an officer his career, possibly his home. This is a MAJOR, job altering shift in a Department where "get a gun, go home" still applies.
Tread lightly, officers. Hunt down the shitheads with guns if it satisfies you, but please think twice before putting cuffs on "Joe America" for having the audacity to enter a Starbuck's with a concealed weapon. Self-preservation should be at an all time high!
Stay safe!
1/07/2014 09:56:00 AM
Pay attention to this post. Anyone who wants to bring in an otherwise law-abiding citizen for carrying through some prohibited zone better prepare to hand over your job and freedom... don't forget where you work and that you are expendable. It will only be a matter of time before some goof goes out of his way to bring in the wrong person and is made an example. the city is just waiting...
I've met a few who I think would never have chosen this job if CCW was in place when they joined, as if they came on just to carry od. they don't know double action from a double cheeseburger, and they're probably even having second thoughts now that now Joe and Jane citizen can exercise his or her right too. those are the exact folks that i suspect will get this whole mess started.
Just as before, cover your own ass. Going home is not worth your future.
If you're about to retire, forget that H.R. 218 nonsense. Go with a concealed carry permit instead. Its only $150 for 5 years compared to $100 every year.
1/07/2014 07:39:00 AM
Here is a better idea! GET OUT OF ILLINOIS, DUMMY!
Texas! Florida! Nevada! Are much better states overall [lower taxes, better weather] as compared to crooked Illinois!
Anonymous said...
Wake up, coppers. The rest of America is here to welcome you back to freedom and the American way. Sorry you still have socialists in your government, but you voted for them and the bankruptcy that comes with them.
Actually, we didn't. We're outnumbered here jagoff. We've supported Concealed Carry for years and it's just now that the courts are enforcing the Constitution here.
1/07/2014 02:49:00 PM
Relax, Francis. This was directed to the brainwashed, not the patriots. Look who you're working with. Some of them still think only cops should have guns.
@1:59PM
"No, law enforcement isn't affected by the no gun signs. You're exempt nation wide under that bill that the evil George Bush passed allowing you to carry in every state."
IF that were the case the NFL couldn't ban cops from carrying in their stadiums. You're confusing the rights of privately owned entities with local and state restrictions.
Anonymous said...
How does this affect LEO's, in regards to the NO GUN signs that are posted?
1/07/2014 12:53:00 AM
Off duty and retired officers it applies to you.
No, law enforcement isn't affected by the no gun signs. You're exempt nation wide under that bill that the evil George Bush passed allowing you to carry in every state.
1/07/2014 01:59:00 PM
Yes,under HR218/LEOSA you can carry in all 50 States,but you must follow the CCW laws in each State,you do not get to carry wherever you want folks.
Illinois new CCW law has created the Gun Free Zone BS(violation of the Second Amendment).
Tell you elected officials, so call Gun free Zones increase crime and do not work.
Are you fucking crazy? The Illinois CCW is ONLY good in Illinois, NO ONE ELSE will honor it because IL will NOT recognize theirs. HR 218 permit is good in ALL 50 states!! Idiot!!
1/07/2014 03:02:00 PM
The following States recognize the Illinois CCW permit:
Alabama
Alaska
Arizona
Arkansas
Idaho
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Kansas
Kentucky
Michigan
Mississippi
Missouri
North Carolina
Oklahoma
South Dakota
Tennessee
Utah
Vermont
http://www.handgunlaw.us/
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
How does this affect LEO's, in regards to the NO GUN signs that are posted?
1/07/2014 12:53:00 AM
Tell that to Dave and Busters, House of Blues, Great America and a plethora of other LIBERAL ANTI-POLICE businesses. Coppers are NOT allowed to carry on their premises.
There was even an on-duty incident years back regarding Dave and Busters, look into that one.
Anonymous said...
To the PO stripped! You can apply for a concealed carry permit as long as you have a valid foid card... The department cannot stop you from your rights. However you still have no police powers.
1/07/2014 03:25:00 PM
All stripped PO's should get a CCW and exercise their fundamental 2nd Amendment Rights! Just do NOT take any police action ever while stripped!
Watch violent crime in Chicago plummet and Gary will attempt to take credit for all of it.
Miami went a few months without a homicide a few years back. You don't target a native Floridian unless you want a trip to the morgue!
If you're about to retire, forget that H.R. 218 nonsense. Go with a concealed carry permit instead. Its only $150 for 5 years compared to $100 every year.
1/07/2014 07:39:00 AM
Are you fucking crazy? The Illinois CCW is ONLY good in Illinois, NO ONE ELSE will honor it because IL will NOT recognize theirs. HR 218 permit is good in ALL 50 states!! Idiot!!
1/07/2014 03:02:00 PM
Great point and its also not subject to the restrictions of the Illinois CCW, but true to some po's anything to save a buck.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
What kind of mental case is this guy?!?
SCC: What do you mean " Training for Officers?
As I read this blog as a civilian I cant believe the cpd isn't getting training???
What is the city / police dept doing with all their budgeted money for training??? Shit, what are they doing with all the Homeland Security Money they've been given?
I think the city been given something like 150 million in Homeland Security funding???
Hope the news or Better Government Association (BGA)doesn't look into this?
Scary!!!
A concerned city resident
Watch violent crime in Chicago plummet and Gary will attempt to take credit for all of it.
Miami went a few months without a homicide a few years back. You don't target a native Floridian unless you want a trip to the morgue!
1/07/2014 08:23:00 PM
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Robberies and assaults will plummet, maybe. But unlike Miami, Chicago is a gangbanging city. Only thing that stops murders from taking place in Chicago is cold weather or a police officer parked on the corner. Even then it's not uncommon for Chicago to be surprised that we didn't have a murder the previous day. Most people applying for a CCW permit will probably never have to use their weapon because some gang banger is trying to kill them, unless it's a gang banger applying for a CCW permit of course.
The only problem I have with IL Conceal Carry is that, well, this is also Chicago. Criminals here seem to be a whole different breed then in most big cities. I'd hate to hear about summer time shoot outs on the mag mile because 10 guys tried to rob an innocent and they were also packin'.
Certified instructor and retired L.E. here...be advised.... First 08 hours duplicates NRA basic pistol course. Second 08,04 hours of laws,dry fire, draw from concealed and 30 rounds on B-27 target ( 10 at 15 ft. 10 at 21 and 10 at 30 ft.) No obligation to notify Police upon contact but MUST advise Officer if asked. (I"m teaching, "yes Officer I have a permit and IT is on my right hip" etc.( dont use the word gun,Police are trained to react to it ) Military Vets,former L.E.,NRA certified etc. waives 04-08 hours of part 01.Handgun only,no sawed-off ARs etc. Public trans,forest preserve etc. bans are being challenged by ISRA/NRA. My students have been good support the Police citizens ( Police/Fire family members,night workers,nurses etc.)who are a little fearfull of contact with you due to the remarks made by politicians. They will not reach for it and will follow your commands upon you telling them what you need them to do.
Anonymous said...
The only problem I have with IL Conceal Carry is that, well, this is also Chicago. Criminals here seem to be a whole different breed then in most big cities. I'd hate to hear about summer time shoot outs on the mag mile because 10 guys tried to rob an innocent and they were also packin'.
1/07/2014 10:47:00 PM
Criminals are the same everywhere.
Anonymous said...
How does this affect LEO's, in regards to the NO GUN signs that are posted?
1/07/2014 12:53:00 AM
Tell that to Dave and Busters, House of Blues, Great America and a plethora of other LIBERAL ANTI-POLICE businesses. Coppers are NOT allowed to carry on their premises.
There was even an on-duty incident years back regarding Dave and Busters, look into that one.
1/07/2014 08:18:00 PM
A private business has the right to refuse service to anyone. Off duty? Police officers are consumers. It is up to you to decide if you want to enter a business which doesn't honor the 2nd amendment right.
According to the law enforcement officer safety act (LEOSA): Police officers (off duty) still cannot carry into bars, private clubs/ businesses, amusement parks. Along with state or local government property, installation, building, base, and parks. Due to gun free school zone act (GFSZA) off duties also cannot carry within 1000ft of elementary or secondary schools. Of course federal buildings and air planes as well.
There is a misconception that off duty cops can carry everywhere which is wrong. But we still do because safety comes first. But remember! Feds don't care who you are but if you are a cop they will care even less.
Everyone be safe and stay warm.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
It's funny to read these comments from cops who have been stuck in a brainwashed socialist city for so long while 49 other states have lived free.
No, you can't get on an airplane with a CCW. Just like 49 other stated haven't had a problem with this.
No, law enforcement isn't affected by the no gun signs. You're exempt nation wide under that bill that the evil George Bush passed allowing you to carry in every state.
No this won't be the Wild West. Well, then again, it is already. This will probably be an improvement now that savages know their prey could be armed.
Wake up, coppers. The rest of America is here to welcome you back to freedom and the American way. Sorry you still have socialists in your government, but you voted for them and the bankruptcy that comes with them.
1/07/2014 01:59:00 PM
To the above who thought off duty officers were so special.
NO CCW (GUN) SIGN INCLUDES OFF DUTY POLICE OFFICERS. Private businesses has the right to refuse anyone service, especially after a sign has been posted.
Please refer to the "Law Enforcement Officer Safety Act" which was last revised (expanded)in 2013 by Obama.
Although LEOSA preempts state and local laws, there are two notable exceptions: "the laws of any State that (1) permit private persons or entities to prohibit or restrict the possession of concealed firearms on their property" (such as a bars, private clubs, amusement parks, etc.), or "(2) prohibit or restrict the possession of firearms on any State or local government property, installation, building, base, or park" [1][4][5][6] Additionally, LEOSA does not override the federal Gun-Free School Zone Act (GFSZA) which prohibits carrying a firearm within 1,000 feet of elementary or secondary schools. Although the GFSZA authorizes on-duty law enforcement officers to carry firearms in such circumstances, off-duty and retired law enforcement officers are still restricted from doing so unless they have a firearms license issued from the state in which they reside and then it is only good for the state in which they reside.[7] Individuals must also obey any federal laws and federal agency policies that restrict the carrying of concealed firearms in certain federal buildings and lands, as well as federal regulations prohibiting the carriage of firearms on airplanes.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
What kind of mental case is this guy?!?
1/07/2014 10:07:00 PM
You must be new around here.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The only problem I have with IL Conceal Carry is that, well, this is also Chicago. Criminals here seem to be a whole different breed then in most big cities. I'd hate to hear about summer time shoot outs on the mag mile because 10 guys tried to rob an innocent and they were also packin'.
1/07/2014 10:47:00 PM
So you would rather just have them get robbed? Despite the fact that they have a Constitutional right to bear arms to defend themselves?
You're a moron, but Rahm loves you for it.
Read Illinois' CCW law. Simple enough to understand concerning restriction regarding CCW permit holders. Then read HR-218 which says in part, "Declares that this provision shall not be construed to supersede or limit the laws of any State that: (1) permit private persons or entities to prohibit or restrict the possession of concealed firearms on their property; or (2) prohibit or restrict the possession of firearms on any State or local government property, installation, building, base, or park." The mind is a terrible thing to waste, use to know the law so you don't get jammed up with off-duty or retired.
To the 12;53:00 Poster, nothing its a violation of that stores policy and we do not arrest for violating a store policy. Unless the dimwits in Springfield or Chicago somehow get a law passed through making it a crime, though I don't see how.
Great point and its also not subject to the restrictions of the Illinois CCW, but true to some po's anything to save a buck.
1/07/2014 08:36:00 PM
Wrong again.Of duty or retired you cannot carry in a posted area,no schools,post office,etc.
Anonymous said...
Certified instructor and retired L.E. here...be advised.... First 08 hours duplicates NRA basic pistol course. Second 08,04 hours of laws,dry fire, draw from concealed and 30 rounds on B-27 target ( 10 at 15 ft. 10 at 21 and 10 at 30 ft.) No obligation to notify Police upon contact but MUST advise Officer if asked. (I"m teaching, "yes Officer I have a permit and IT is on my right hip" etc.( dont use the word gun,Police are trained to react to it ) Military Vets,former L.E.,NRA certified etc. waives 04-08 hours of part 01.Handgun only,no sawed-off ARs etc. Public trans,forest preserve etc. bans are being challenged by ISRA/NRA. My students have been good support the Police citizens ( Police/Fire family members,night workers,nurses etc.)who are a little fearfull of contact with you due to the remarks made by politicians. They will not reach for it and will follow your commands upon you telling them what you need them to do.
1/07/2014 11:03:00 PM
Former LE get NO credits for training. Even tho you have 40 hour cert from IL you get NOTHING!!
Here is what SCC and others are missing/// since the law was passed, large counties in Illinois, including Sanagamon and Peoria have CCW ( the SA refuses to prosecute anyone who has a valid FOID card) how badly has that gone in those counties? Lots of folks who CCW shooting up the landscape? No? Geez./ This is a precurser for the rest of the state... -0- problems.
The following States recognize the Illinois CCW permit:
Alabama
Alaska
Arizona
Arkansas
Idaho
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Kansas
Kentucky
Michigan
Mississippi
Missouri
North Carolina
Oklahoma
South Dakota
Tennessee
Utah
Vermont
http://www.handgunlaw.us/
1/07/2014 08:17:00 PM
WOW!! I hope you're not the police, it's called "reciprocity" for a reason. Where in the site (which is outstanding BTW) do you read that ANYONE will honor an IL CCW permit?
So many off-duty cops take their guns on vacation trips to Florida and Hawaii? Enjoy your trip forget the job nonsense.
Anonymous said...
To the 12;53:00 Poster, nothing its a violation of that stores policy and we do not arrest for violating a store policy. Unless the dimwits in Springfield or Chicago somehow get a law passed through making it a crime, though I don't see how.
1/08/2014 04:58:00 AM
No trespassing. No loitering. No shirt no service. Police personnel only. No pets allowed. Members only. Permit parking only. NO GUNS!
Yes it is a private sign. Private business. But to see that sign and and enter anyway? Tac teams don't arrest trespassers? Station security doesn't lock up those who enter police lot to get their impounded cars back? How about those who enter the impound lot? So by entering in a manner which violates the clearly posted sign, is that not trespassing?
Stop thinking that special shiny star "enitles" you to higher standards off duty. Especially with the amount of training CPD coppers get. Off duty means coppers are just average joe citizens who should call 911 should such situation arise.
Enter at your own risk. But why risk anything? Is it worth the aggravation? Just like other states illinoians will find pro gun businesses who honor and respect the 2nd amendment. Keep them in business.
Give the lefties nothing!
The following States recognize the Illinois CCW permit:
Alabama
Alaska
Arizona
Arkansas
Idaho
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Kansas
Kentucky
Michigan
Mississippi
Missouri
North Carolina
Oklahoma
South Dakota
Tennessee
Utah
Vermont
http://www.handgunlaw.us/
Are you sure about ILLINOIS?!?
Retired guys:
Again, please contact IROCC for clarification on Retired P/O's legally carrying a concealed weapon.
I can't get a definite answer from them and have been referred to their legal Department guy for IROCC.
Emailed him and...no response.
Don't believe me? Try contacting them yourself.
Again, please contact IROCC for clarification on Retired P/O's legally carrying a concealed weapon.
I can't get a definite answer from them and have been referred to their legal Department guy for IROCC.
Emailed him and...no response.
Don't believe me? Try contacting them yourself.
What are you talking about? HR 218, a federal law allows it. Where is this coming from? The law was enacted in 2004 and has been going on for 10 years
This from the IROCC says we can
Under the “Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act” (HR-218) qualified active and retired law enforcement officers are permitted to carry concealed handguns nationwide. The law amends the Gun Control Act (18 U.S.C. Chapter 44) to exempt qualified active and retired law enforcement officers from state and local laws prohibiting the carry of concealed firearms.
In accordance with the Federal Act, Illinois passed Public Act 94-103 (2005) that provides for the annual certification of retired law enforcement officers qualified under federal law to carry a concealed weapon.
Anonymous said...
Certified instructor and retired L.E. here...be advised.... First 08 hours duplicates NRA basic pistol course. Second 08,04 hours of laws,dry fire, draw from concealed and 30 rounds on B-27 target ( 10 at 15 ft. 10 at 21 and 10 at 30 ft.) No obligation to notify Police upon contact but MUST advise Officer if asked. (I"m teaching, "yes Officer I have a permit and IT is on my right hip" etc.( dont use the word gun,Police are trained to react to it ) Military Vets,former L.E.,NRA certified etc. waives 04-08 hours of part 01.Handgun only,no sawed-off ARs etc. Public trans,forest preserve etc. bans are being challenged by ISRA/NRA. My students have been good support the Police citizens ( Police/Fire family members,night workers,nurses etc.)who are a little fearfull of contact with you due to the remarks made by politicians. They will not reach for it and will follow your commands upon you telling them what you need them to do.
1/07/2014 11:03:00 PM
Former LE get NO credits for training. Even tho you have 40 hour cert from IL you get NOTHING!!
1/08/2014 07:30:00 AM
Certified instructor and retired LE advises...this is pasted from ISP website Sir,
Yes, the exemptions are set by statute and cannot be expanded upon by the ISP. The statute provides that a person who has (i) qualified to carry a firearm as an active law enforcement officer, (ii) been certified as a firearms instructor by the Act or by the Illinois Law Enforcement Training Standards Board, or (iii) has completed the required training and (emphasis added) has been issued a firearm control card (FCC or Tan Card) by the Department of Financial and Professional Regulation shall be exempt from the training requirements in the Act. The applicant must submit verification that the training requirements for the FCC Card have been completed.
The following States recognize the Illinois CCW permit:
Alabama
Alaska
Arizona
Arkansas
Idaho
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Kansas
Kentucky
Michigan
Mississippi
Missouri
North Carolina
Oklahoma
South Dakota
Tennessee
Utah
Vermont
http://www.handgunlaw.us/
Are you sure about ILLINOIS?!?
1/08/2014 02:48:00 PM
You are a ball buster
Please refresh my memory, when you identify yourself as a Law Enforcement Officer you become on duty. So that solves the problem of carrying in a "restricted" area.
Message t0 11:12 am posting: The only reason I carry my gun on furlo or when out of state is to protect my family and myself, I really don't play police, but I sure want it when I need it. You have a choice and if you coose not to carry, then it is your choice, my only reply is god forbid some savage takes advantage of you or a loved one, then you will need to look in the mirror everyday after that event !!! If you can live with it, God bless you.
1/07/2014 01:51:00 PM
You must be a goof if you cant remember where you packed your weapon. Do yourself a favor and drive wherever you have to go instead of flying. How did you manage to land a job as a CPD officer. Wtf
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The only problem I have with IL Conceal Carry is that, well, this is also Chicago. Criminals here seem to be a whole different breed then in most big cities. I'd hate to hear about summer time shoot outs on the mag mile because 10 guys tried to rob an innocent and they were also packin'.
1/07/2014 10:47:00 PM
So you would rather just have them get robbed? Despite the fact that they have a Constitutional right to bear arms to defend themselves?
You're a moron, but Rahm loves you for it.
1/08/2014 12:34:00 AM
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No where in my comment did I state any of that. Simply said I'd hate to hear about it jackass. The same way I'd hate to hear about a cop drawing his weapon and 10 suspects also draw theirs.
1/08/2014 10:37:00 AM
WOW!! I hope you're not the police, it's called "reciprocity" for a reason. Where in the site (which is outstanding BTW) do you read that ANYONE will honor an IL CCW permit?
Another "I'm the police I know the law" response....
No Dickhead....it's not reciprocity....its RECOGNITION.......
For example.....INDIANA RECOGNIZES ALL PERMITS ...even from out of country WITHOUT an agreement (reciprocity / quid pro quo)with other states or countries....
The biggest issue seems to be getting the digital ID needed to apply
The brainiacs who developed the site to get your ID designed it to work ONLY the with Internet Explorer browser....
BUT.....
The most up to date version of IE (IE 11) is problematic for this task....
Your best bet is to dust off an old machine with an older version of IE and update/install the required java program (link is on the application info page)
Once you go through this process and obtain your ID you can then use any browser to go to the ISP site to apply
SCC, here's the link to an excellent article on Concealed Carry Instructor Fraud: Are Citizens Being Training Correctly to Carry Concealed Firearms.
http://www.actiontarget.com/illinois-concealed-carry-instructor-fraud
This article is also the cover story for the January issue of Illinois Cops Magazine.
Lots of great info for citizens seeking to obtain an Illinois CCL as well as educational points for ISP approved instructors teaching this program.
Maybe consider running a new thread on it?
Again, please contact IROCC for clarification on Retired P/O's legally carrying a concealed weapon.
I can't get a definite answer from them and have been referred to their legal Department guy for IROCC.
Emailed him and...no response.
Don't believe me? Try contacting them yourself.
What are you talking about? HR 218, a federal law allows it. Where is this coming from? The law was enacted in 2004 and has been going on for 10 years
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10 years ago Civilian Concealed Carry wasn't on the books in Illinois. Things have changed.
As suggested-take a minute out of your busy day and call them: (217)726-9537. The program manager is Kenton Manning and legal advisor is John Keigher.
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