Car Situation.....Again
Winter takes its toll, and so does the complete lack of effort into maintaining equipment.
VRI is doubling up cars. The Area garages have no pool rides. Districts are downing cars in order to add a third (and sometimes a fourth body) to the cars going out.
The substandard equipment being bought is one reason - we've never seen so many SUV's down for blower motor failure. The non-existent maintenance is another - cars down for a month at a time for a "part" to come in.
It's been bad before, but we're reaching "takes-the-cake" proportions lately.
VRI is doubling up cars. The Area garages have no pool rides. Districts are downing cars in order to add a third (and sometimes a fourth body) to the cars going out.
The substandard equipment being bought is one reason - we've never seen so many SUV's down for blower motor failure. The non-existent maintenance is another - cars down for a month at a time for a "part" to come in.
It's been bad before, but we're reaching "takes-the-cake" proportions lately.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
147 Comments:
Guys, it wouldn't matter if only two cars went out in each district. As long as Rahm says there's enough police out there, the media and the public BELIEVE there's enough police out there.
buy toyotas next time!
heck i hear that in the 12th district they're down 14 cars. and that they're scrambling around every day to get cars for everyone...here's a solution/suggestion, take the cars away from the FOOT GUYS and those Bike people and that ANSWERS HALF THE PROBLEM... YES YOU READ CORRECTLY--- I EVEN HEARD THAT THE FOOT GUYS NOW TAKE CARS.... GO FIGURE
Hi SCC! It's me, your buddy, Police Superintendent Bronx Bullschitz. I'll tell you why we don't have auto parts. It's because we're renaming CPD to Detroit Police Department. That's right buddy, your police department's going to be just like Detroit's-no blower motors and no pension! We may not get new blower motors, but our new Detroit PD badges are going to be plenty nifty!
Time to break out a Schlitz!
I love you man!
Police Superintendent BB
can I take out my own car ? why not
Only the best for us.
With the current fleet so depleted, look for the city to purchase more cars in the near future. Some garage guys were talking of plans for the city to buy Audi A8s as our new squads. The all-wheel drive A8s would do well in Chicago's winters.
A VRI south car died at 57/Damen, the officers requested a tow... Wait for it, over the air dispatch said the tow truck driver said he wasn't coming out because he was the only one up and working on a Saturday night. The city that works lol what a joke we are.
No need to panic about the car situation, folks.
The Area Saturation Pimps will again rise to the occasion!
Spirited 'pep talks' from Bossholes that wouldn't dream of straying into gray areas themselves will instill these impressionable hard-chargers with the motivation needed to perform like circus seals. Thinly veiled threats of "back to a beat car on midnights in 004" for noncompliance will accompany these quotas....aaahhhemmm..."indices".
The grunts will comply with orders to stop any swinging dick - reasonable suspicion be damned - in order to double-down on parking tickets, cannabis ANOVs and the impounding of vehicles for the most petty of offenses.
Revenue generated by this indiscriminate fleecing will be used to purchase fleets of new police vehicles, complete with best PDTs and carbines... right after the pension is shored-up to meet actuarial suggestions of solvency.
Rahm promises.
Do we have Asshole lazy mechanics? Word is they do shit half ass so the cars keep coming in and they have a job.
Got to pay for the stadium and hotels for DePaul by cheating other departments and pensions of their monies.
In my unit we are down so many cars we don't have enough to send everyone out. Sometimes we ride four deep. No pools of course . And "no light at the end of the tunnel".
its all good, I catching up on some good sleep time waiting on a car !
This is unsafe for the officers and the citizens.
How about taking away take home cars from useless spots? There should be a post for people with take home cars who don't deserve it and it's not necessary.
What happened to the Michigan state police study that said the tables were less expensive to operate?
Was in the area 4 garage the other day, 1st time in a long time for me.The 4 key boards that used to be full of keys? 3 are empty and erased the last one had a total of 15 pools listed.Thats right, 15 pools total for all the west side districts!! But as the garage guy said "Campbell and 51st each got 15 too",so we have that going for us. 45 cars citywide I bet there is more take home cars at 35th st than that.
Man am I glad I retired.
Man am I glad I bought a Toyota instead of a Ford
There has been a car from my unit in for transmission issues at the Campbell garage since early December. I look for it everytime I go get gas---IT HASN'T MOVED in 6 weeks.
the car dealer replaced mine in about 6 hours.
And they have foot guys at broadway and diversey
Why do they want people to work in 019 when cops with no time on the job have foot posts.
This is getting totally ridiculous with these cars. Not a one with less then 100k miles, no computers, forget the cameras, leaking roofs and wires hanging everywhere
We don't need to spend money on squad cars, or to pay pension obligations.
Money should be spent on more important things..another Daley memorial park, basketball stadium, flower pots, and oh ya', more bicycle lanes, you know, really important stuff.
Remember, it's for the children.
The guy who is in charge of insuring that there is a ample amount of vehicles is none other than retired P/O and now civilian Deputy Chief Marv Shear.
This prick could give two-shits about your safety or your personal inconvenience.
As for the comment about the mechanic's dogging it when a car comes in...could not be anything farther from the truth. Fleet bosses are just as inept as our bosses are. Sadly, our mechanics have to follow their b.s. rules.
Going back to Marv, time for this guy to move on and retire. You made your mark in the CPD and fucked up your section in the department. Well done asshole.
Guys, these Explorers aren't just breaking down in the big city. Suburban depts. are having the same issues with them.
Maybe if they let me use the same vehicle every day I could take care of it. I know it sounds corny, but I used to feel like it was my car and I took ownership of it. Now, no matter how hard I try, I just can't keep up with the filth inside and out that other coppers leave because they know they won't see that car on their next tour. Maybe that extra half hour we work every day isn't in the Departments best interest. Our fleet is turning to shit.
heck i hear that in the 12th district they're down 14 cars. and that they're scrambling around every day to get cars for everyone...here's a solution/suggestion, take the cars away from the FOOT GUYS and those Bike people and that ANSWERS HALF THE PROBLEM... YES YOU READ CORRECTLY--- I EVEN HEARD THAT THE FOOT GUYS NOW TAKE CARS.... GO FIGURE
2/16/2014 12:12:00 AM
I'd like to see you do foot in this cold weather. Have a heart
Guess foot guys will have to really walk instead of drive. Perhaps they should put the beat officers on foot too. That way they could get more of a feel of their beat.
Cars cost money. Rahm thinks that money is better spent on people more likely to vote for him.
See---Simple.
G&O is a good example. Once you pull into the garage it is still about an hour before the grease and oil change is complete. Fucking Jiffy Lube does it in 20 minutes and they vacuum the car, clean the windows and fill the tires with air. The stuff we should farm out we don't.
No need to panic about the car situation, folks.
The Area Saturation Pimps will again rise to the occasion!
Spirited 'pep talks' from Bossholes that wouldn't dream of straying into gray areas themselves will instill these impressionable hard-chargers with the motivation needed to perform like circus seals. Thinly veiled threats of "back to a beat car on midnights in 004" for noncompliance will accompany these quotas....aaahhhemmm..."indices".
The grunts will comply with orders to stop any swinging dick - reasonable suspicion be damned - in order to double-down on parking tickets, cannabis ANOVs and the impounding of vehicles for the most petty of offenses.
Revenue generated by this indiscriminate fleecing will be used to purchase fleets of new police vehicles, complete with best PDTs and carbines... right after the pension is shored-up to meet actuarial suggestions of solvency.
Rahm promises.
2/16/2014 01:30:00 AM
HUH??? Drunk blogging again?
VRI south car died at 57/Damen, the officers requested a tow... Wait for it, over the air dispatch said the tow truck driver said he wasn't coming out because he was the only one up and working on a Saturday night. The city that works lol what a joke we are.
Should have lit it on fire and walked away.
In 019 the do nothing foot guys all ride around in their own marked squad car - with a beat tag.
Dougherty wants everyone to have a crappy car to take their minds off the even crappier insurance he wants us to have. Being a union officer isn't a career Billy Boy. Go back and be a cop 12 years is too long in the union.
Help the city out, down cars if something is wrong with them or there is something illegal about it. Safety 1st! Merit management is never any good....
PDT shortages in some districts too. Coppers are hoarding PDT's in lockers, trunks.
This is unsafe for the officers and the citizens.
2/16/2014 05:38:00 AM
Really? Ya think ?
Hey News People!! Where are you on this one? Oh yeah, that's right....in the Mayor's pocket.
nonymous said...
Do we have Asshole lazy mechanics? Word is they do shit half ass so the cars keep coming in and they have a job.
2/16/2014 01:35:00 AM
This message from a do nothing hair gel. I hear word is beat guys are useless. Everyone is an asshole except for you. I bet the mechanics are as frustrated as beat officers. Morale is down in every district and frustration is growing. Now is not the time to attack each other. If you must wait for a car, then sit in the station and read a book. This problem is the same 30 years ago. No one cares.
If motor maintainance was a car dealership, they'd have been out of business years ago.
Four to a car? How do you effectively patrol? If you had more cars then more area would be covered and Crime that is done, would mean no crime at all. Give us grunt officers what we need if you want the job to be done.
Laughing my ass off!!!!! Ha ha ha. We are a joke. Clown exempts running us with the ring master McScotch. Hey Fop where is our vote of no confidence against the Bronx ball Sack? Why no vote cause FOP is in bed with with this mayor and Supt. Mike Shields you are scum!!!! Weis was a prince compared to thiis moron.
A Department is the reflection of the quality of its equipment.
In the meantime. Barb West is following us down the dark alley. So we got that going for us.
no car, no problem, hold me down in the station with no car available--- do not get into the back seat of a cage car ever--- if you are ordered to immediately call the union and file a safety grievance....
If there are no cars, you can't get the police out on the street, who then can't protect the citizens, who can't report the crime. Perfect - crime is down.
Winter maintenance has always been a problem, but what is really screwing up the car situation is the rotation of vehicles across beats on every tour. Nobody is taking care of the vehicle because it's not theirs!
The fords are a nice ride. But the blowers go out too quick. They must have rushed the production.
FORD=POS
New PPOs are being trained on bikes for this very reason... there are no cars for them to use when they finish their FTO cycles. Bike patrol in impact zones! Hope no one gets hurt.
12:12 you nailed it. Foot/bike guys in 012 take out cars every day. These guys and radio room people they are hiding some days 2 at a time doing radios/cars are big problem. Only 1 good Sgt on 2nd watch. She does her best to correct the car situation with no help from D/C, XO or W/C.
You guys need a vehicle maintenance officer. Someone who works the street(me in another PD) and has many years in the automotive industry (me former mechanic and auto former instructor).
Apparently CPD isnt doing anything with the last PO test so hire me to fix your squads...if its just a blower issue I would have temporarily fixed it for at least one heat setting so you could have still used the squad until parts come.
Just me rambling...
300 cars are down.
OT: Kickstarter, through which a lot of us donated to PO Mullin's applesauce campaign, has been hacked:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57618976-83/kickstarter-hacked-user-data-stolen/
why won't the media that trolls this blog looking for doing one about this?
could it be they are totally afraid of Rahm?
Media--grow a set!!!
Has the city slowed paying the parts vendors again?
189 uses rental cars. Some become stop cars the rest are stock. Why can't district's use rentals when they are low on cars?
City not going to be able to borrow for new ones.
Wow - this is sounding more like Detroit every time a Tahoe can't turn over.
Is it an "all parts" issue or is it more a case of a loss of a "sense-of-urgency" by those coming into the maintenance jobs and focusing more on coffee and donuts than getting the cars out to support the front-line troops?
If it is the latter, it's time to kick butt and let go of those who are just "coasting" on the job - INCLUDING their Bastard clout-licking supervisors.
Get out and earn your great pay or get out and see what you are really worth in the real world!
Go work at Jiffy Lube for a $1 over minimum wage and see how you have to hustle to change oil and filters.
Here in heaven, I have a better vehicle than Monty here and Rommel in Hell. They cannot stand my chrome half-track.
Get back some pride you CPD grease-monkeys! I'd have you wearing pressed blue overalls EVERY day. Maybe it's not your fault.
I'd be visiting your bosses everyday and making sure trucks were getting serviced with a sense-of-urgency, otherwise they'd be working on an ice-cutter in Lake Michigan until I decided they could come back to their plush jobs.
I believe it was 01 Jan 2003 that the police were booted out of being in charge of EMMD and the mob run Fleet Management of the City of Chicago took over the operation. You know, the garbage truck guys. The police team there wasn't perfect but they had your interest at heart more than "dose" guys. "Youse" lost out when "dey" took over. Go ask one of the mechanics and they'll tell you that it was better when the police ran the operation. That is if you can find anyone still around from 10 years ago.
Privatize , bunch of political hacks, jiffy lube , gas cards for local stations in districts , close down fueling stations
More political jobs
New cars are not in the budget this year guys-we will only get what was on hand or already on order from last year. Came right out of the bosses mouth at a meeting I attended late last year. Another one of those "tell me what we need out there to get the job done but don't ask for more personnel or cars because you're not getting any." Ten to go.
Fleet Management is a joke and should be privatized. Why does it take half the day to get an oil change, they bought these fords and need to put a drain in the floor to get rid of the water that is causing the problem. But we treat the equipment like shit, take care of it like it's your own and it will stay nice. After all you spend 75 percent of your time in the car or truck!
No cars and no radios for 1st watch in 011 every night. Only the best for the troops.
Wasnt there a sgt in 008 that had the transmission drop or stop working on the new ford suv. Then he fucked himself up enough so he had surgery and went iod. That should t have happend. Defects? Law suits?
In 025 just about all of the tahoes have well over 100,000 miles, many are at 130,000-140,000 plus. I would say that 75% of them run like shit and are in need of major mechanical work. Every single night 1st watch is waiting for 3rd watch to come in with cars. No downing cars and doubling up yet, but I'm sure it's just a matter of time. But hey at least the city has $ to construct a new stadium for DePaul university.
Can't buy foreign, that would look shabby on government vehicles.
Many of these cars are fixable. Cab companies run these cars 300K plus miles. Probably the two biggest problems with the Fords are the transmission and suspension. Rear wheel drive transmissions are much cheaper to rebuild/replace than FWD or AWD. Scrapping some and refurbishing others would be a cost efficient move...so the city won't be doing that.
How are the Tahoes holding up? Whats the highest mileage those have gotten so far. What usually breaks on them?
Well maybe some of the problem would be alleviated if these micro-managing nightmares they call bosses would allow the cars from the previous watch to turn in their keys, albeit a little earlier than usual check-off, the new watch could start their tour without waiting for cars. But because they are so hell bent on making sure that everyone is miserable and god forbid anyone should leave earlier than they should, the six figure wonders that run this circus would rather have a crew of fresh people sitting around the station with nothing to do, while the officers who have been answering calls for the last 7-8hrs are still getting jobs well past the threshold for the start time of the new watch. Bunch of idiots who make 100K+/yr, most of whom couldn't manage a bowl of goldfish are running the show.
Don't blame motor maintenance and the city Most cops don't check fluids on these cars even when they are clicking because of no oil Take care of what we have since there is no more new cars available
Downed cars, no cars, downed pdt' no computers and the XO barks about activity. Go team
Worked a foot beat in old days. Walked, or bussed to beat. Worked on foot, met people, warmed up in stores, buildings etc. Called for assist on arrest transports. Then one day a footman got into an accident with his own car. Someone thought liability would be an issue. From that point forward footmen started taking cars. Of course they never left their cars, took no meaningful assignments and never walked a beat, unless they visited some one to get something free. We had enough cars back then. A footman should be on foot. They sell high quality long underwear at that store in six corners. I know. It is a lot of money to pay someone who does very little and can pick and chose the level of contribution he makes to the watch. They don't need a car to be a footman.
We abuse the shit out of these cars. We are a big part of the problem.
We should not forget about the computers and printers that don't work.
Come to 004 so you can get yelled at and threatened to get SPAR'D by a loud mouth Serbian Sgt for waiting at the desk for cars to come in... I swear this department is a joke and the supervision isn't any better. I forgot to mention there are Sgt cars available but PO's cannot take them out.
Here's an idea, take away the cars for the PPO's doing foot patrol!! The new breed of PPO's is disgusting, a bunch of know it alls who have war stories already. These guys are parking ticket vets with too much freedom. It's only a matter of time until something big happens in a negative way. When I was on probation PPO's were not allowed to work together or drive together, when did this change?
SOLUTION
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_nkw=chevy%20impala&_dcat=6169&rt=nc&_pppn=r1&Model%2520Year=1996%7C1995%7C1994
Damned shame.
Has Rham paid Ford yet the millions for the small order of cars?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
With the current fleet so depleted, look for the city to purchase more cars in the near future. Some garage guys were talking of plans for the city to buy Audi A8s as our new squads. The all-wheel drive A8s would do well in Chicago's winters.
2/16/2014 12:55:00 AM
I know you were kidding. A8's start at $75k and go up to $125K. May as well buy the new Maserati. That would be a big hit in the 'hood.
If Motor Maintenance, Fleet Management or whatever they go by was a private company they'd have been bankrupted and run out of business already.
The current mess is totally unacceptable yet the beat goes on for this fucked up department and city.
Guys, it wouldn't matter if only two cars went out in each district. As long as Rahm says there's enough police out there, the media and the public BELIEVE there's enough police out there.
2/16/2014 12:06:00 AM
Rahm could be pissing on the media but tell them it's raining and they'd blindly report it as raining.
01:35. No your confused with the police. We have ahole cops that abuse cars n don't do shit but talk shit. Your ignorance is forgiven
The Barrington police department is auctioning off there old cars. They have 35,000 miles, heated seats and sunroofs.
..here's a solution/suggestion, take the cars away from the FOOT GUYS and those Bike people and that ANSWERS HALF THE PROBLEM... YES YOU READ CORRECTLY--- I EVEN HEARD THAT THE FOOT GUYS NOW TAKE CARS.... GO FIGURE
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here is a solution go fuck yourself. That is a solution that has management merit promotion written all over it. if your job cannot supply you with the means necessary to complete your job safely and efficiently while guarding the public interest, which is a city managements political charge, f*** them.
SCC, can we all agree that we R on the SAME TEAM, please? Please?
I heard some1 go down to A/3 cuz of "car problems." It was a Saturday nite so I was way to BZ to think about it for more then a second. It turned out that the person went down at about 01:30 hrs & just hung out at the garage till the tour was over. No way of knowing this.
Next day there's only ONE car left so I took the keys. I wasn't expecting anything let alone something nefarious. I got into the car and it felt like the car was tipped like a Flintstone vehicle that had a massive slab if meat dropped on one side of the car.
I drove that car to the Area. Turned out the 2 jag bags went back to the District garage & hid till the tour was over. They NEVER informed anyone that a piece of shit car was just parked like it was "useable."
I've had 4 shoulder operations, cold as a W/S's Titz, and I wasn't changing a tire PERIOD for a nefarious act from the previous nite. When I drove to the Area I changed two of the tires safely w/the drill. A 10-4 Unit could have done that & still stayed in the game. It's the same dude that goes in early all the time claiming to have to "Download Tape from the Camera." This Old Chap gets away w/shit all the time. He's 60 plus so U know the odds of the word "Download" meaning anything other then a cum shot dripping down his leg R slim & none.
And now we are told not to come up on the air and tell the zone your waiting on a car. Shhhh! Big secret? Doubt it!
Hell, why not have the city drive you around in Taxi Cabs. They need the money and Rahm probably would not know the difference.
Or, there is always Foot Patrol. It may take you an hour or two on each call but who really cares anymore. Figure between bus rides, walking and a proper lunch, you do 3 calls max!
And finally, how about Gov. Quinn loaning us all those hundreds of National Guard Jeeps and SUV's (Tanks) that are just sitting in all those Depots doing nothing.
Take home cars for all police officers assigned to a beat car in patrol division.
I know most PO's will be happy to have 2 per car. Since an extra set of eye's is great for officer safety (in theory of course).
But 4 deep?
Unlike Revenue...the CPD requires Vehicles for Mobility and Rapid Response. And that isn't a debatable point.
Is this something that can be grieved by the Union? Would a complaint to OSHA be a good idea since Officer safety is at risk due to the lack of Rapids per shift every day? Isn't this something that your FOP PR person should be complaining about every day to the Media Outlets...like How is Crime down when we can't get enough working Squads to our cops, let alone don't have the 1000 officers Returned to the Street that Rahm promised.
"..allow the cars from the previous watch to turn in their keys, albeit a little earlier than usual check-off, the new watch could start.."
oh please- in our district between the conniving beat guys and lazy radio room guys- we ALWAYS have at least one early car waiting for the previous shift late car to bring in their assigned ride--how about we start with: everyone takes the car assigned to their beat- even if its a pool or has no pdt or only has rear wheel drive --and yes the field supervisors should be making sure this happens and not condoning/encouraging/ignoring it (and yes i am a field supervisor)
from citizen in 18th District- THANKS for the great response this morning around 6:30am catching a bike thief red-handed and getting the bike back as well. Turns out the thief is a pretty bad "bad guy". And that bike is the bike owner's only means of transportation. You all do such great work, meaning not just 18. But to all from 18 who were involved today- you were very professional. Your hard work is greatly appreciated in our neighborhood. God bless you all, and God bless the CPD!
If there are no cars, you can't get the police out on the street, who then can't protect the citizens, who can't report the crime. Perfect - crime is down. 2/16/2014 09:36:00 AM........That makes perfect sense!!! You hit nail on the head.
"We abuse the shit out of these cars. We are a big part of the problem.
2/16/2014 12:42:00 PM"
Spoken like a true management suckhole.
They run 24hrs a day & MMD is a certifiable joke.End of Story.
Anonymous said...
Hell, why not have the city drive you around in Taxi Cabs. They need the money and Rahm probably would not know the difference.
Or, there is always Foot Patrol. It may take you an hour or two on each call but who really cares anymore. Figure between bus rides, walking and a proper lunch, you do 3 calls max!
2/16/2014 03:21:00 PM
Put those lifetime CTA passes in your pocket to work. Take the bus or El train. Wouldn't be the first time. The buses will become the safest place in the city.
Anonymous said...
The Barrington police department is auctioning off there old cars. They have 35,000 miles, heated seats and sunroofs.
2/16/2014 02:32:00 PM
They also say "Barrington" on the side. The City isn't going to pay for the paint.
Anonymous said...
If Motor Maintenance, Fleet Management or whatever they go by was a private company they'd have been bankrupted and run out of business already.
The current mess is totally unacceptable yet the beat goes on for this fucked up department and city.
2/16/2014 01:36:00 PM
Motor Maintenance at 5219 S Wentworth used to have five PO's, one sergeant, two Lieutenants and one Commander assigned. Just to that one garage. Plus a PO around the clock. That's a lot of salary, benefits etc. for a car garage. Now why would that place need even one PO, much less a sgt, several Lt's and an exempt commander? The other garages all had a sgt and PO's. sgt on 2nd watch and PO's 24/7 Those were spots for the heavy and light duty people, heart attack etc. Still, planty of full duty officers, making PO's wages, in a garage. There was a PO assigned full time to the tire shop at 52nd, changing out tires. Supposedly to guard the inventory.
Anonymous said...
Can't buy foreign, that would look shabby on government vehicles.
2/16/2014 11:49:00 AM
Much of those Chevy Tahoes was made in Mexico. Thanks to NAFTA. Assembled in Texas. American auto company, did not have any requirement that 50% had to be USA made, like Honda and Toyota etc.
The Shields team has endorsed Dean Angelo. Things that go bump in the night.
I thought a while back ford told tiny dancer to pay or no new SUVs.
(must have thought they were "gifts")
wasn't there a big hoopla about the ford plant on the south side doing business with city
and tiny was tooting his horn on great it was for the city
and then the hammer fell.
NAPA's contract with Fleet Management is the problem!
Napa has the exclusive vendor contract with Fleet Management.
Prior to EMMD being taken over by Fleet management we never had car shortages or lengthy waits for car repairs. The 4 chalk boards with key hooks were full of pool cars. NOT NOW under Fleet Mismanagement.
Here is the problem.
Napa occupies the parts rooms at all area garages. I doubt they pay any rent to the city.
They have no phone line installed for and paid for by NAPA, instead they use a city line. So a free phone!
They use a city computer to order parts over the internet. So they save money by not purchasing a computer and internet service.
The vehicle which they pick up and deliver NAPA auto parts is a CITY OWNED Truck/van with Municipal plates. Wow! not only don't they have to buy a vehicle, plates, city sticker or insurance but, they also get to fill up at the city gas pumps. Damn, FREE GAS TOO!
Here are the ways that NAPA scam Fleet Mismanagement but more importantly scams us TAX PAYERS!
1. you get a flat tire and take it to the area to get it swapped out. The tire is then taken by NAPA on a city truck over to 52nd and Wentworth. Our fleet management mechanics will fix the flat and put the tire back into service. Now NAPA will charge Fleet Mismanagement for a new tire instead of just a flat repair. When NAPA does put a new tire on a rim they also charge the city for a new rim instead of just a tire. Fleet Mismanagement once called one of the area garages asking to see the 700 new tires and rims that were purchased by NAPA.. The area garage foreman told them they have no idea what they were talking about since they only had a few new tires and the others were repairs on old rims. (I need a vendor contract like this)
2. Your squad won't start and the R-Man swaps out a battery and takes the dead one back to the area garages and turns it over to NAPA. Well, NAPA will test it to see if it just needs a charge or is dead. If they are able to charge the battery and revive it then guess what NAPA does? They charge the city for a new battery which just needed a charge.
3. NAPA also supplies Fleet Mismanagement with oil and other fluids for the city. I heard that the price they charge the city is double what the city previously paid to other vendors for oil and antifreeze, etc.
All that NAPA does is order parts from dealers and supply centers and doubles the price of the part they charge to the city/taxpayers.
Time for an investigative reporter to follow around one of those white pickup trucks and vans at the area garages with Municipal plates. I bet it is a NAPA employee and not a city employee driving.
Yes, I down cars all the time when they are in need of repairs, as I refuse to drive an unsafe vehicle. My safety is paramount to the city's lack of purchasing cars for Police Operations. Its more important to spend tax dollars on Maggie Park and a basketball arena for DePaul.
The mayor does not care about the police nor does he not care about the publics safety either.
All of this fleecing of the taxpayers money just to reward some politically connected individuals.
20+ year PO.
Can I make s suggestion that PO's start taking their squads to the areas when the brake, engine and trans lights are on. Down the thing for being unsafe to drive. If we down enough cars this will start to get some attention when the trolls who listen to our radio hear that we are in a backlog and have no cars available for PO's to drive.
Our safety should be our greatest concern. We don't want to loose any officers to unsafe cars.
DONT DRIVE AN UNSAFE VEHICLE!
stick it to the mayor where it hurts
Officers working VRI and CTA should down those junk cars.
Don't drive a car that has the brake light on.
If you get into an accident and the black box shows that the brake warning light was on the city will say, " you should have not driven the car" and make you at fault.
Down the car for being unsafe. Would you drive your personal car with the brake warning light on? I wouldn't.
Be safe
Anonymous Anonymous said...
And now we are told not to come up on the air and tell the zone your waiting on a car. Shhhh! Big secret? Doubt it!
2/16/2014 03:01:00 PM
Insignificant blog! ;-)
All I hear is a bunch of veteran police officers complaining and bitching. Boy am I surprised by that! Guys and gals this is the reality. So let's deal with it the best we can. All we can do is do the best we can do with what we have.
nonymous said...
Here's an idea, take away the cars for the PPO's doing foot patrol!! The new breed of PPO's is disgusting, a bunch of know it alls who have war stories already. These guys are parking ticket vets with too much freedom. It's only a matter of time until something big happens in a negative way. When I was on probation PPO's were not allowed to work together or drive together, when did this change?
2/16/2014 01:00:00 PM
Hey asshat, when you were a PPO, you worked a beat car in the district. The new PPO's are lucky to work a beat year more than the fto cycle in one year. They are assigned to the box or other foot routes and told "DO NOTHING". After months of "DO NOTHING" they know are trained. Now, no one cares about the PPO's and no supervision. The department will pay for this mistake in a few years. It is drilled in to their heads by white shirts; do nothing.
Bus drop off each Officer and then foot patrol. You get an arrest call and we will pick up.
What we need are a few lawsuits for injuries sustained due to substandard equipment and maintenance. Money is all the city understands. Think of all the money the city paid for cameras and GPS after the SOS nonsense. But injured cops, who gives a shit. Lawsuits, money and bad press is what drives politicians to action.
Anonymous said...
Guys, these Explorers aren't just breaking down in the big city. Suburban depts. are having the same issues with them.
2/16/2014 07:56:00 AM
Yeah but not this bad. I drive an Explorer. The mileage on it is still pretty good though. My favorite part about the Explorer is that since it's out of service every couple of weeks for something stupid I might end up in a vic or interceptor for the shift. Our car situation is pathetic but not as dire as in Chicago.
Believe me I understand that most Japanese cars sold here have majority American part content and many American cars are built north and south of our borders with significant foreign part content. I was looking a the Buick Encore and it had 70% Korean and Chinese content. But most people are ignorant to this and it still would cause a stink to have government cars have a foreign name brand
Now, no one cares about the PPO's and no supervision. The department will pay for this mistake in a few years. It is drilled in to their heads by white shirts; do nothing.
2/16/2014 08:41:00 PM
Ready for VRI and then some. $20K+ overtime a year to sit in duh box and do nothing. The future of this department is now.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The Shields team has endorsed Dean Angelo. Things that go bump in the night.
2/16/2014 06:19:00 PM
Sorry but most of us see it as anybody but the shitty wide team.
Simple solution to the problem. Just add another signature box to the I-BOND!
I hereby allow the CPD to utilize my motor vehicle for police duties. In exchange, I will not accrue storage fees....so on and so forth...
2/16/2014 01:36:00 PM
Motor Maintenance at 5219 S Wentworth used to have five PO's, one sergeant, two Lieutenants and one Commander assigned. Just to that one garage. Plus a PO around the clock. That's a lot of salary, benefits etc. for a car garage. Now why would that place need even one PO, much less a sgt, several Lt's and an exempt commander? The other garages all had a sgt and PO's. sgt on 2nd watch and PO's 24/7
And you are a dinosaur who used to roam the planet during the Jurassic era. A total of six sworn CPD ran the entire EMMD out of 52nd & Wentworth at the time Napa and the Chicago Mob run Fleet Management took over. This meant that even decision about the CPD fleet, including every undercover covert car was overseen by civilians, the private company of Napa, and the Chicago Mob. And you don't see a problem with that? From a civilian employee who worked for 40 years out of that department and saw the downhill slide before finally retiring. Taking the CPD out of the equation was a huge mistake. You can't be Paul Harvey and tell the "rest of the story" if you don't know the 1st part of it accurately.
Anonymous said...
Can I make s suggestion that PO's start taking their squads to the areas when the brake, engine and trans lights are on. Down the thing for being unsafe to drive. If we down enough cars this will start to get some attention when the trolls who listen to our radio hear that we are in a backlog and have no cars available for PO's to drive.
Our safety should be our greatest concern. We don't want to loose any officers to unsafe cars.
DONT DRIVE AN UNSAFE VEHICLE!
stick it to the mayor where it hurts
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The Mexican says:
Ha ha ha!! You're suggestion is ridiculous!!!!
I mean, that would mean banding together, acting like brothers and sisters, not working VRI or Special, and being a cohesive unit to reach a common goal.
You are SUCH a silly goose.
Let's go, people! Let's be selfish, self-centered and greedy!!!!! Let's keep thinking about the immediate future and FUCK our pension!!!!!!!!
YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As long as me and my partner go home without any new holes or broken bones in our bodies I don't give a f$@&!!!!!!!! Just give me my check on the 1st, 16, and 22nd so I can make that drive home every morning from the south side to the north to be with my beautiful baby momma and play the stock market and try to get outta here at 20 or 23 years.....let the Sgt. Yell .....let them argue over you telling the zone u dont have a car... ...whatever,whatever,whatever....care less for the white shirts or the department....I'm just here to lend a hand to the honest Joe blow...and get a pension, and I better get a pension.....5 year wonder!
Here's an idea, take away the cars for the PPO's doing foot patrol!! The new breed of PPO's is disgusting, a bunch of know it alls who have war stories already. These guys are parking ticket vets with too much freedom. It's only a matter of time until something big happens in a negative way. When I was on probation PPO's were not allowed to work together or drive together, when did this change?
2/16/2014 01:00:00 PM
I was waiting for someone to say this. How original...blame the PPO's who by no choice are a product of the Superintendent's "New York way" nonsense. Also...have you seen the cars they drive, asshole? They all have over 100,000 miles on them, no PDT and probably should be junked. But, got forbid they have something with heat in sub zero weather you useless waste of space.
Remember a very long time ago when the districts had "warrant " & "abandon auto" officers ? ? ?
They took the keys and the spare set home with them so no one could use their cars. These cars were replaced every three years and they averaged around 3,000 - 4,000 miles on them.
Just a little walk down memory lane.
To all my friends out there that need cars. Someone should go through the 1st District parking lot. There're at least 15 marked and unmarked cars with snow on them. They have not been moved since the past 2 or 3 snow storms. They belong to connected units. I want them out so I could park closer to the door. Someone please get rid of these unused cars. Give then to people who need them.
The only thing you have to do is obey the General Orders . Read them and carry them then when "merit Sergeant" approaches tell him the order and if he wants to override the order (which he Doesn't gave the power to do) beef to the upper merit Capt. Get some galls guy!. If everyone followed the general orders the police dept would come to a stand still. You don't need to go on strike. Just do what they order. Very simple, stupid. Read the processing persons in custody order. Man I love it! How easy to get back at Rahm and mcgoofy just do what the order reads.
100% correct!!!
the napa at north & throop garage also employs all indiana people who dont pay for city stickers and park in the city parking lot.
free electric, gas, phones etc...
they use this city facility to supply their chicagoland napa dealers citywide.
this whole napa deal is a scam thanks to the degnans and daleys.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
NAPA's contract with Fleet Management is the problem!
Napa has the exclusive vendor contract with Fleet Management.
Prior to EMMD being taken over by Fleet management we never had car shortages or lengthy waits for car repairs. The 4 chalk boards with key hooks were full of pool cars. NOT NOW under Fleet Mismanagement.
Here is the problem.
Napa occupies the parts rooms at all area garages. I doubt they pay any rent to the city.
They have no phone line installed for and paid for by NAPA, instead they use a city line. So a free phone!
They use a city computer to order parts over the internet. So they save money by not purchasing a computer and internet service.
The vehicle which they pick up and deliver NAPA auto parts is a CITY OWNED Truck/van with Municipal plates. Wow! not only don't they have to buy a vehicle, plates, city sticker or insurance but, they also get to fill up at the city gas pumps. Damn, FREE GAS TOO!
Here are the ways that NAPA scam Fleet Mismanagement but more importantly scams us TAX PAYERS!
1. you get a flat tire and take it to the area to get it swapped out. The tire is then taken by NAPA on a city truck over to 52nd and Wentworth. Our fleet management mechanics will fix the flat and put the tire back into service. Now NAPA will charge Fleet Mismanagement for a new tire instead of just a flat repair. When NAPA does put a new tire on a rim they also charge the city for a new rim instead of just a tire. Fleet Mismanagement once called one of the area garages asking to see the 700 new tires and rims that were purchased by NAPA.. The area garage foreman told them they have no idea what they were talking about since they only had a few new tires and the others were repairs on old rims. (I need a vendor contract like this)
2. Your squad won't start and the R-Man swaps out a battery and takes the dead one back to the area garages and turns it over to NAPA. Well, NAPA will test it to see if it just needs a charge or is dead. If they are able to charge the battery and revive it then guess what NAPA does? They charge the city for a new battery which just needed a charge.
3. NAPA also supplies Fleet Mismanagement with oil and other fluids for the city. I heard that the price they charge the city is double what the city previously paid to other vendors for oil and antifreeze, etc.
All that NAPA does is order parts from dealers and supply centers and doubles the price of the part they charge to the city/taxpayers.
Time for an investigative reporter to follow around one of those white pickup trucks and vans at the area garages with Municipal plates. I bet it is a NAPA employee and not a city employee driving.
Yes, I down cars all the time when they are in need of repairs, as I refuse to drive an unsafe vehicle. My safety is paramount to the city's lack of purchasing cars for Police Operations. Its more important to spend tax dollars on Maggie Park and a basketball arena for DePaul.
The mayor does not care about the police nor does he not care about the publics safety either.
All of this fleecing of the taxpayers money just to reward some politically connected individuals.
20+ year PO.
2/16/2014 07:16:00 PM
NAPA = no auto parts available
downed pdt' no computers and the XO barks about activity. Go team
2/16/2014 12:36:00 PM
call captain radio marty ryczek!!!
police captain in charge of computers and radios for the whole city.
100% correct!!!
the ig needs to stop this shit now!!!
Anonymous said...
NAPA's contract with Fleet Management is the problem!
Napa has the exclusive vendor contract with Fleet Management.
Prior to EMMD being taken over by Fleet management we never had car shortages or lengthy waits for car repairs. The 4 chalk boards with key hooks were full of pool cars. NOT NOW under Fleet Mismanagement.
Here is the problem.
Napa occupies the parts rooms at all area garages. I doubt they pay any rent to the city.
They have no phone line installed for and paid for by NAPA, instead they use a city line. So a free phone!
They use a city computer to order parts over the internet. So they save money by not purchasing a computer and internet service.
The vehicle which they pick up and deliver NAPA auto parts is a CITY OWNED Truck/van with Municipal plates. Wow! not only don't they have to buy a vehicle, plates, city sticker or insurance but, they also get to fill up at the city gas pumps. Damn, FREE GAS TOO!
Here are the ways that NAPA scam Fleet Mismanagement but more importantly scams us TAX PAYERS!
1. you get a flat tire and take it to the area to get it swapped out. The tire is then taken by NAPA on a city truck over to 52nd and Wentworth. Our fleet management mechanics will fix the flat and put the tire back into service. Now NAPA will charge Fleet Mismanagement for a new tire instead of just a flat repair. When NAPA does put a new tire on a rim they also charge the city for a new rim instead of just a tire. Fleet Mismanagement once called one of the area garages asking to see the 700 new tires and rims that were purchased by NAPA.. The area garage foreman told them they have no idea what they were talking about since they only had a few new tires and the others were repairs on old rims. (I need a vendor contract like this)
2. Your squad won't start and the R-Man swaps out a battery and takes the dead one back to the area garages and turns it over to NAPA. Well, NAPA will test it to see if it just needs a charge or is dead. If they are able to charge the battery and revive it then guess what NAPA does? They charge the city for a new battery which just needed a charge.
3. NAPA also supplies Fleet Mismanagement with oil and other fluids for the city. I heard that the price they charge the city is double what the city previously paid to other vendors for oil and antifreeze, etc.
All that NAPA does is order parts from dealers and supply centers and doubles the price of the part they charge to the city/taxpayers.
Time for an investigative reporter to follow around one of those white pickup trucks and vans at the area garages with Municipal plates. I bet it is a NAPA employee and not a city employee driving.
Yes, I down cars all the time when they are in need of repairs, as I refuse to drive an unsafe vehicle. My safety is paramount to the city's lack of purchasing cars for Police Operations. Its more important to spend tax dollars on Maggie Park and a basketball arena for DePaul.
The mayor does not care about the police nor does he not care about the publics safety either.
All of this fleecing of the taxpayers money just to reward some politically connected individuals.
20+ year PO.
2/16/2014 07:16:00 PM
no cars oh well ill sit my ass in the station till then...i dont give a shit
How the hell can SWAT respond since we don't have take home vehicle? This city is not prepared. Citizens of Chicago you are not protected. After 911 the city has not learned anything. Good job McBall Sack.
Anonymous said...
What we need are a few lawsuits for injuries sustained due to substandard equipment and maintenance. Money is all the city understands. Think of all the money the city paid for cameras and GPS after the SOS nonsense. But injured cops, who gives a shit. Lawsuits, money and bad press is what drives politicians to action.
2/16/2014 09:14:00 PM
If you inspect the car at the start of your tour and don't have the stones to down it, it's on you.
No lawsuit there.
11th Dist King said...
can I take out my own car ? why not
2/16/2014 12:25:00 AM
Idiot.
Anonymous said...
And now we are told not to come up on the air and tell the zone your waiting on a car. Shhhh! Big secret? Doubt it!
2/16/2014 03:01:00 PM
Just call 911 on the district phone,that way it's recorded.
Here's an idea, take away the cars for the PPO's doing foot patrol!! The new breed of PPO's is disgusting, a bunch of know it alls who have war stories already. These guys are parking ticket vets with too much freedom.
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Have you noticed?
The young ones ALL have their heads buried in their I-phones.
That'll get someone killed.
7:16 pm. I work there. None of that's true. Your full of shit and a troll.
To 7:56 pm.......yea right, " do the best we can with what we got" ...hahahahahahahahahahahah...... "Yea ok Marines we're gonna take that beach but we have no landing craft so, we'll do the best we can and swim for the beach with our 140lbs Alice pack on our back, but don't worry about the current or the shooting, hey we'll do the best we can" .........good luck jar head......not trying to compare the Marines with the CPD but this statement is moronic......this is a job, supposed to be a profession, we do need basics like, ammo, guns, training, equipment that works, transportation, etc......the ability to respond rapidly and safely to an emergency situatuation is critical to effective law enforcement, period. Our entire department is based on our response to the need for help,in an emergency, it the city doesn't provide the transportation in order to effective perform our sworn duties then what the alternative? Meaningless quotes, and sayings, like do the best we can? Really? If a loved one of yours needs the police immediately and their are no resources for the officers to respond, I don't think you or any one would be satisfied with the response " we did the best we could with what we had but too bad for the victim".....it's doesn't cut it....this is the complete dismantling of the department by those whom always have had a hatred for the police. Listen, when it's -25* F with the wind chill and you have no car available and your getting a call what do you do? Walk? Don't think of getting inside the back of a cage car cause an accident will basically seal you inside and cause you to be crushed by the impact. The answer is simple , the department needs MORE vehicles, simple.
Can the shade tree mechanic retards please stop putting cardboard in front of the radiators on van cells. It's not a 79 ford. All it does is fuck up the truck. Thanks
The sad thing is... We just sit there and take it. You have guys n Gals that will run on foot to answer a call and make that arrest to get them that much closer to Tac. What a sad state of affairs. Im so glad I am KMA!
The city does not buy their cars from Ford. Ford does not sell to a single retail buyer. ALL cars are sold through delaerships. The dealership is the one that the city pays, not Ford itself. It is up to the dealer to make the deal as to how and when the city pays for the vehicles they purchase.
The way we handle the cars isn't getting it. We need to have the same vehicle each day or 2 cars regularly, that way I wouldn't feel like I'm pissing in the wind gassing, washing and checking the oil in every damn car in the lot. No one gives a shit because you don't get the same car again for maybe a week.
Explain to me why does a Tact Lt. need a take home car??????
I've see this one car, looks like a brand new crown vic with new LED lights, parked on the street at the end of the block. I can only assume some high ranking alderman lives there. Why can't they just use a older crown vic just to park in front of their house.
Here's an answer in 010, they can take the take home cars away from the 3rd watch foot guy on Cermak and 26th street. Foot means foot! And why do they need take home cars anyways!
F..that. It's all good. I get in the rear of the car/radio line everyday and when it's my turn there is nothing left. Let the foot and bike guys take all the cars. I just lay low and go. 1st and 16th Brotha from anotha motha!
In this age of doing more with less, you guys just have to think "outside of the box." You guys complain and complain. Here is a solution, take out the bicycles. I am sure that the districts have a few of them stored away. And then you guys wonder why someone with a little initiative and a boatload of smarts gets promoted. Learn to lift yourselves up by your bootstraps.
2/1/2014. 12:43:00 AM
Please! Everyone! re-read this Post!
As our contract negotiations go further and further south, Re-read this comment again!
Bottom line no one cares,few coppers that take care of vehicles can't keep up with all these bitching babies.grow a pair and report those pigs to Sgt.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
In this age of doing more with less, you guys just have to think "outside of the box." You guys complain and complain. Here is a solution, take out the bicycles. I am sure that the districts have a few of them stored away. And then you guys wonder why someone with a little initiative and a boatload of smarts gets promoted. Learn to lift yourselves up by your bootstraps.
2/17/2014 07:06:00 PM
And don't forget to sign out the Dept issued six inch wide shovel, so you can attach it to the front of the bike to clear the way as you ride it in the foot high snow. Goof.
How the hell can SWAT respond since we don't have take home vehicle? This city is not prepared. Citizens of Chicago you are not protected. After 911 the city has not learned anything. Good job McBall Sack.
Seriously? Does SWAT not have take-homes? If any unit actually NEEDS them, it would be SWAT. What a fucking joke this city is.
" And then you guys wonder why someone with a little initiative and a boatload of smarts gets promoted. Learn to lift yourselves up by your bootstraps.
2/17/2014 07:06:00 PM'
Never, because I don't live in the fantasy world you inhabit.
You definitely have a career @ Second city that's some great comedy
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The city does not buy their cars from Ford. Ford does not sell to a single retail buyer. ALL cars are sold through delaerships. The dealership is the one that the city pays, not Ford itself. It is up to the dealer to make the deal as to how and when the city pays for the vehicles they purchase.
2/17/2014 01:58:00 PM
Many municipalities throughout the state band together and buy police vehicles en masse. They buy with many others and pool their resources to get the best prices. The city did that some years but likely dropped out when told they had to come up with the cash up front. Deadbeat cities like Chicago can't pay up front. They have other uses for that pension money.
How the hell can SWAT respond since we don't have take home vehicle? This city is not prepared. Citizens of Chicago you are not protected. After 911 the city has not learned anything. Good job McBall Sack.
Seriously? Does SWAT not have take-homes? If any unit actually NEEDS them, it would be SWAT. What a fucking joke this city is.
2/17/2014 10:49:00 PM
Aren't swat on the street 24/7 so at any point they do have units available if a situation arises.
>>>Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The city does not buy their cars from Ford. Ford does not sell to a single retail buyer. ALL cars are sold through delaerships. The dealership is the one that the city pays, not Ford itself. It is up to the dealer to make the deal as to how and when the city pays for the vehicles they purchase.
2/17/2014 01:58:00 PM,<<<
Can you imagine that any honest dealership would "deal" with the city.
Sell them $3 or $4 million in cars with payment due at the end of the month. You have your employees to pay, your building and utilities to pay and Ford to pay.
The end of the month comes and no check...then another month, and another.
I'd love to see some dealer send tow trucks and news crews to repo the cars. Just to burn Rahm and McDufass.
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