Former FOP Pres Suing FOP - Denied?
In Chancery Division of Cook County, Docket Number 2014 CH 2400, filed 10 February 2014.
The summary:
The summary:
- Michael K. Shields
v.
Fraternal Order of Police Chicago Lodge No. 7
2/10/2014 2014 CH 2400
Action for violation of the Illinois Whistleblower Act, breach of contract and declaratory judgment. Defendant - "an organization consisting of approximately 10,500 active Chicago Police Officers and Detectives and 7,000 retired Officers" - unfairly suspended plaintiff and removed him as President of Chicago Lodge No. 7 without due process after he complained to the City of Chicago Inspector General that arbitration between the City of Chicago and the Chicago Police Sergeant's Association "may have been rigged."
We don't have access (and neither does our tipster) to the on-line filing, but maybe someone out there does? We'd still like to see the specious reasoning behind it all.
According to a comment or two earlier yesterday, the motion was heard and denied already because - get this - Shields didn't get his letter in on time to contest the ballot issue! Talk about irony.
According to a comment or two earlier yesterday, the motion was heard and denied already because - get this - Shields didn't get his letter in on time to contest the ballot issue! Talk about irony.
Labels: FOP
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
180 Comments:
KARMA
If this doesn't demonstrate to the membership just what a disease this guy is to our organization, I don't know what will.
Please keep this in mind if you have any thoughts about voting for any of his cronies. Need I say more?
The motion was denied because Dougherty and the rest of the current members did what everyone quietly knows they do best: fight for what is best for every officer, current or retired, out there. Dougherty could have done nothing and let Shields derail the election for an indeterminate amount of time--and for those of us who've ever been involved in a lawsuit, we know these could mean months and even years. If they had done nothing the current members in office would have stayed in office during the lawsuit. But instead of riding it out and letting Shields take the blame, Dougherty, Aguilar, and Del Riveria did what is best for the rank and file like they've been trying to do the last three years: stop Shields. All the Angelo and McDonagh supporters who bash Dougherty and the rest of City Wide, keep it up. While you're busy talking smack, they'll be busy making sure your interests are being protected.
I want to know if Mike Shields is still receiving his FOP President Salary of 218k? I also want to know when is Shields hearing in Springfield in regards to his Suspension from the State FOP Lodge?
So now Mike SHields is suing the people whom elected him at one time? Now he is forcing us to defend ourselves and pay for legal fees? This guy needs to humble himself. Shields truly has lost his mind and thinks he is John Gotti of the FOP lodge 7.
Mikey just stop...move along from all this and be with your family its all a mess I'm sure there are good and bad reasons why all this occurred...
KIDS an idiot.
1 down the rest of the board to go.
pornstash and his cheesy brown suit
to the Sgt of Arms with 1 good arm.
To Mr i don't record votes i just listen to how many "I" and "Nay"
i tell the truth even when i lie vice prez.
to an ex diaper dick who was never a detective but put it on his resume.
It would be funny except that he and the executive board of fop is taking money out of our pockets. Every person on the inside cover of the calendar book should be shown the door!!!
Now we hear that Dougherty wants to pick his own election committee Thursday and has called another special board meeting.
Wasn't a big thing that the citywide team posted here was about Shields picking his own guys to hear charges against him?
Now Dougherty wants to pick his own election committee after 75% of the process is done?
I smaell a rat!
Has any ticket talked about hiring a Cut throat PR firm to counter what the city brings against us? Or talk to big cities on who they use for labor issues, Im going to vote for the ticket who will admit that a Chicago Police Union elected official(A Police officer, no matter what rank) has 0 chance, ZERO chance Against what Rahm can bring against us.
Knowing you limitations would confirm to me that your not just in it for the $$$$$..............
What a dream, What a dream i was just having
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
OT: CLEAN THE ACADEMY OUT! If you are described on the A&A'S in a position such as secretary or timekeeper, time to get sent back to a didtrict. Hello media? Are u listening?
2/10/2014 03:11:00 PM
Enough already ... either you can't get there or someone who doesn't want you anymore is there now. Whatever. Give it up already, moron!
2/11/2014 08:44:00 AM
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How about it's just someone that see's the corruption over there.
Lots of PO's go to the Fitness center daily. Don't you think they see stuff?
Here's one for ya:
How can some officers at the academy have more than 12, 14, 16 BFd's at the end of a year and already into 2014?
How can they have 7 8 9 P days?
All of the range staff seem to have the most days to either sell or carry over but if you have 14 BFD's how can that be?
How come some of the gym staff have staggered start times by as much as 6 hours?
There aren't recruit classes after 1600hrs.
How do range and gym staff members have time (while working - carried on the A&A's) to do videos for krav maga and do concealed carry classes?
How can some civilians come and go as they please with their real estate business, their consulting businesses? Heck, there's a civilian that doesn't show up for work till 1100 hrs. on a daily basis yet, no one is there to be sure that this indiv. works and entire shift. Which he/she does not!
Staff come and go as they please with no supervision and no one ensuring that they are putting in the 8 hours a day.
The blatent theft from the city over there is unreal and unchecked!
Someone go out and buy this douchebag a calendar. What a tool.
To whom it may concern:
Recently we lost a very young, Detective to a heart attack while working.
The day it happened, a post here on SCC asked why we did not have defibrillators in the district's, and the areas.
I would like to form a committee to accomplish this by placing defibrillators in all the districts, areas and firehouses.
I do not know if we would have to raise the funds ourselves, or with the assistance of the Safety Committees of either of the unions pressure the City into providing them.
I do know that within a week we could have petitions on all of our work places, expressing our desire that they be installed immediately.
I learned tonight that the City Colleges have them and the airports have them.
We should have them.
If we have to raise the money, we could do it.
I am sure a lot of businesses that make their livelihoods off Police and Fire like the Credit Unions, the uniform stores, etc. would love to help.
Lets give it a shot.
Kevin O'Rourke
If interested, please contact me via:
Kevin@kevinorourke.com
If Anyone named Shields wins any office, I QUIT!!!!!
Something tells me that all of this union drama is a Rahmulan plot. I'm just fuckin' sayin'.
I hope he's successful. Anyone with more than a minute on this job knows our union isn't on the up and up. The remnants of "Citywide" allowed a naive kid to fall flat on his face so they could remain the "good old boys club" that they'd been for several terms.
THEY ALLOWED SHIELDS TO FAIL AT THE EXPENSE OF ALL OF US.
Now don't get me wrong.....Shields is to blame to some extent, but can't be held 100% responsible.... Not when the other clowns have been to this rodeo many times in the past. What your witnessing now with the reincarnated "Citywide" team is a desperate attempt to cling to the lifestyle these maggots have grown accustomed to. Only now Dougherty gives an interview to the press on how he plans to make FOPs issues known to the masses? NOW they decide is a good time to ask black officers to join their ticket? Why no one of color on tickets past? Billy Boy is grasping at straws. The rats bailed ship and joined other tickets because they know the jig is up. I pray there is a REAL financial audit once the new regime takes office. Shields had poked the hornets nest. He's awakened the sleeping giant. And everyone that knows of or participated in nefarious deeds of FOP administrations past is getting really nervous and if shows. Shields tried to shine light on the roaches ruining our union a and they ran him out and want to destroy him before he does the same to them. Best wishes Mike. Too bad you bit off more than you could chew when you got stuck with the remnants of guys bought and paid for under the old regimes. We told you from day one that the rats still inhabited the hall and that they'd stab you in your back. Aguilar owning up to making the blog against you last election should have told you right there what their collective intentions were. And Billy D. is the devil incarnate bought and paid for by the 19th ward. Ditto Marky D.
Shields needs to go to the feds and hand over all the doings, that's the only way he stands a chance. It is sad that his suppoosed friend (gorman), sold him out.
Dumb Dumb.
This guy is like a bad case of herpes, he just keeps popping up when you really don't want him to! Please just go away!
back when this young punk came to our roll call and asked for our support....you clowns think that supporting Michael shields was ordinary course of business at the hall, well just like I said in the beginning this shields was a po without any experience with being the police! but yet you fools voted for Michael shields well now and then I can not and will not police the streets of Chicago with this "nut case"! so lets get over with what transpired and support experience over I wanna be part of the wagon train at the fop lodge 7-vote EXPERIENCE and SENIORITY!
signed: 24 year VETERAN, DA REAL POLICE!
LoL Time to decertify FLOP and the Nonsense We NEED a Union Not the soap opera personality crap Just look at all the name calling with the election
Ahhhhh the "letter"...darn!
Mikey bad Karma from your Daddy screwing over good coppers Ya Think?
amazing , this union is a joke everyone wants more money one way or another .
Is that goof still getting paid the big money?
Good -- he cost this union enough money. If he wants to earn his 100+ salary tell him to work VRI or is that beneath him?
You have to ask HTF Did Mike become president of FOP
Vote any Current Board Member OUT
No Eceptions
For those of you who didn't get to hear all the teams roll calls, here's a quick synopsis from a district guy.
Dean Angelo team spent half of their time explaining why dean is on disability and then talked about cutting a bunch of stuff
Citywide spent most of their time blaming other people for the problems of the current administration and then had to listen to my roll call yell at them about the letter
Clean slate had a few district guys, from 16 and 9 I think, talked about real issues like time due and equipment. Liked that they had solutions not blaming other people. Missed mcdonaghs speech since I got to roll call late.
As far as independents, liked day guy from 8, John I think. His story really hit home about being stripped.
Due process? WTF? This is a PRIVATE organization. Due Process applies in a court of law. Whatever rules the Lodge creates is what applies... F' the crybaby...
Shields is a goof! How the mighty have fallen hard!
Aguliar and DiMaria are retiring in April. Let's retire them on March 7th. Graham is a joke. Bailey's claim to fame is he is another of Dougherty's Hockey players.
Almost all of the citywide team's trustees are throw aways. Compare the list from three years ago.
Why did 17 po's refuse to run this time around with the citywide team?
IF YOU VOTE FOR ANYONE ON THE INSIDE COVER OF YOUR FOP BOOK MAKE SURE YOU KNOW THEM PERSONALLY!
NONE OF THESE PEOPLE REALLY DID ANYTHING FOR US IN THE LAST THREE YEARS.
LOL, put him on the ballot! Put his name and how many votes would he get? Two? Himself and his brother! What's the big deal (sarcasm)?! Not like he is going to cast his vote for Dean Angelo and company anyhow.
Any vote for Dougherty is a vote for throwing your hard earned money out the window.
What about the rumour the exiled former FOP President is now Unit Rep for 018?
Well said Mickey or Danny Boy. Nobody would ever think this was coming from you:
Anonymous said...
Shields needs to go to the feds and hand over all the doings, that's the only way he stands a chance. It is sad that his suppoosed friend (gorman), sold him out.
Gorman may have fucked you, but you fucked us all. This doesnt make Billy Boy Daugherty any better. He was a rat 20 years ago. Angelo or McDonagh are going to be a welcome relief to this shitshow.
Just another reminder guys, I don't know R. Aguilar at FOP nor do I have a personal opinion about him but something to keep in mind regarding how he thinks. When he was in the 009th Dist 1700 roll call he was asked a question regarding the raises (2%) we have received the last few years in our contracts which have been well below cost of living to live in Chicago. The question was, Do you believe the cost of living in Chicago is 2% to which he said "YES", he was then asked Do you believe 2% was a fair offer by the city to which he responded "YES". He was asked one more time Do you think the cost of living in the city has only been 2% and for a 3rd time he said "YES". I want to know where R. AGUILAR lives in the city. Do we want someone like this fighting for us. Is this how others on the team think? My water bill, real estate taxes and vehicle city sticker have all gone up from 25%-40%. I understand many of the principles behind the dismal raise the point is he believes it's fair.
How can some officers at the academy have more than 12, 14, 16 BFd's at the end of a year and already into 2014?
How can they have 7 8 9 P days?
All of the range staff seem to have the most days to either sell or carry over but if you have 14 BFD's how can that be?
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Ummm.... Could it be that they carried over bfd and pd's from 2013? I much prefer time away from this job to selling the days back to the city, so I carried over the maximum and currently have 18 total bfd and pd's in my bank.
I doubt anyone has 14 bfd's total, maybe just a combination of the days in their bank.
Dougherty is the ONLY one that has stood up to this moron. Dean "Eddie Munster" Angelo Jr. and his team voted to find Shields NOT GUILTY of failing to send the letter. Shields brother and his ridiculous pension watchdog team have latched on to Disability Dean. F em.
He's from the E-mail generation.
The whole bunch of them in fop are a disease.
Sorry to hijack this topic but with the ballots arriving shortly, I just wanted to take a minute and thank all you hard working guys and gals out there for allowing me to speak at your roll calls. It's been an honor meeting each and every one of you. Stay safe.
In reference to the post about diffribulators.
Stone City Marble and Granite company on Grand Ave. Just donated one to Area North. It's arriving today or tommorow.
F- him !!!!
The entire citywide team is done and gone. Time for a change. Let's be done with all the drama.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Shields needs to go to the feds and hand over all the doings, that's the only way he stands a chance. It is sad that his suppoosed friend (gorman), sold him out.
2/12/2014 01:15:00 AM
Gorman sold his soul to Mike Madigan. a vote for Gorman is a vote to slit your own throat!
I knew he was a weird dude the first time I was introduced to him. Saddens me that other coppers voted for him. Makes me wonder of their skill sets for the street. He was blatantly a weird MF'er, anyone should have been able to see it, years ago. YEARS!
Shields was the Wunderkid Savior that was going to right the Ship, that's why you put him in Office.
He's living proof that change for change alone can lead to disastrous consequences.
It's about tickets, slates, and teams, and cover your ass friendships.
1. Don't vote for anyone associated with Shields.
2. Don't vote for anyone that has been in office 3 terms.
3. Don't vote for any ticket that supports and has members that violate rules 1 or 2.
4. Vote for the Independent candidates.
This is "The List"
There are 101 candidates running for FOP office.
Of those 101 there are 9 (yes only nine) that are independents not associated with one of the 4 teams or the board.
These are the watchdogs that can hold others accountable. Vote for these 9 first, and then vote for whatever team you like. Only at that time will there be adequate checks and balances.
President:
None (WOW)
1st Vice President
Jim Jakstavich (009)
2nd Vice President
Brock Merck (014)
3rd Vice President
Percy Allen Jr. (166)
Recording Secretary
John Cantanzara (008)
Financial Secretary
None
Treasurer
None
Sergeant at Arms
Brian Kratz (050)
Frank Roman (610)
Trustee
Coralyn Hudeik (RTD)
Tom Lonergan (RTD)
Vic Rini (RTD)
Ot- Koschman case not over....
Inside guy
I'd like to get a hold of this jackass' weed.
WTF? Who does he think will vote for him?
He is getting 170k to sit in a beat car in 018.
1230am--we get it, you have some type of beef with the Academy Staff.....get over it and have a big glass of STFU
Sorry Mikey.
You're still a cutie though.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Coppers should be pissed and yelling and asking why is he getting his 218k salary?
How can ballots go out when there is a pending complaint re citywides email blast off the fop server? Apparently, the the hand picked by Dougherty arbitrator is in Singapore and can't rule on it at the moment. Unbelieveable.
Who to vote for? If their name appears in the FOP handbook, dump them! That gaggle of house mouse hacks is responsible for this situation! Not one of them deserves any support.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
To whom it may concern:
Recently we lost a very young, Detective to a heart attack while working.
The day it happened, a post here on SCC asked why we did not have defibrillators in the district's, and the areas.
I would like to form a committee to accomplish this by placing defibrillators in all the districts, areas and firehouses.
I do not know if we would have to raise the funds ourselves, or with the assistance of the Safety Committees of either of the unions pressure the City into providing them.
We should have them.
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You're damn right we should have them and we shouldn't go begging for them.
Consider this: That detective, I believe, died on duty. Heart attack is considered a hazard of doing this high stress job. John Thomas died of a heart attack, John Thomas was given full like of duty honors etc.
Assuming this detective gets the same, which I believe he very much deserves, that money spent on line of duty benefits, funeral, benefits for the family and kids, well that would easily pay for defib machines in every station. Just the line of duty money for one officer.
But also consider this, knowing the City of Chicago, these devices would no doubt be available for the public, not just police officers, so dude comes in grabbing his chest, well, when have you known the City to promptly replace equipment in a police station? I'd rather purchase and carry my own defib.
Mikey bad Karma from your Daddy screwing over good coppers Ya Think?
2/12/2014 03:59:00 AM
Good or bad things about Mike is your opinion. His father has never "screwed" over "working" cops. If this statement was made by anybody from 023, I'm willing to bet who said it. Guess what sport, 1 or 2 lucky pinches to make your career does not entitle you to call yourself a good working copper
TRO Denied, but the case was not dismissed. The next trial date is in 28 days. Given that this case may have a massive financial and/or public relations impact on the FOP for years to come, I hope SCC can post the actual complaint. If Dougherty and Donahue win, then their deeds or misdeeds will be much more publicized if they get elected. If citywide loses than the new board can get in front of it, do an internal review take corrective steps and take the needed steps to restore everyone's confidence in FOP.
I know Doherty is not the best along with the citywide team, that being said sorry will not vote the Lego starter kit where the new guys learn the job making huge 6 figure salaries! It's to bad no woman obviously was not qualified enough to be at the top or near top of the ticket. Could you imagine if we had a woman like cps Karen Lewis? Rahm is scared of powerful black/Jewish woman. That being said Tom and your ticket could not take the time to visit my unit! I know the older guys are less than 25% of CPD but remember the older guys especially retirees vote! and with everything on the line pension and contract sorry going to stick with bill dohertys team! dean Angelo goid ideas but mike shields had great ideas but in theory were fantastic but in practice we are know what happened!
To the candidates you want to win? Do this!
Sell the Lincoln that is given to fop president free along with free fuel and insurance president makes well over $210,000 pensionable dollars a year.
Eliminate the pension ability of the top 4 spots $170,000 a year big salary save the pension as you guys are telling us about exempts taking to much, take your civil service pension no more!
Why are no CPA accountants not at the top of the ticket?
Why no labor attorneys at the top?
Yep I'm a high school grad also, but can admit we need people with smarts at the top.
You before you put guys on the top of the ticket investigate your top guys as a fact obtain CR numbers on coppers for bullshit. Don't worry names will be named Tom dean bill did you check?
Paybacks a bitch!
The city and Rahm couldn't hurt the Fop or the patrolman as much as the fop and patrolmen have hurt themselves in this fiasco. If elected fop board members will turn on each other and ruin each other do you honestly think they will fight for YOU, the membership? This is an absolute debacle.
Anonymous said... Good -- he cost this union enough money. If he wants to earn his 100+ salary tell him to work VRI or is that beneath him?
2/12/2014 05:58:00 AM
Agreed, and Ditto for Dougherty and the current board members who stood by, did nothing, and continue to lie to the membership that they were powerless to act on behalf of us all. The self-serving political
pawns all need to go.
P.S. To the Member who is in the know (Clean Elections), Give it a rest. Your boys and you are responsible for your own actions as well as your inaction.
Do not elect a retired person to be the president. Does that make sense to anyone?
Response to the sissy trick/beefer
You have all the answer!
Employees come in when they want because the are on salary meaning if something like Taste of Chicago comes up they have to work Sundays.
How can they have to much carry over time?
A good supervisor will let you change your day of group so you don't need to use P days.
But i bet your to scared to make a legit beef because you want all the perks for yourself grow a set.
YOU ARE THE PROBLEM with this department NOW.
How about it's just someone that see's the corruption over there.
Lots of PO's go to the Fitness center daily. Don't you think they see stuff?
Here's one for ya:
How can some officers at the academy have more than 12, 14, 16 BFd's at the end of a year and already into 2014?
How can they have 7 8 9 P days?
All of the range staff seem to have the most days to either sell or carry over but if you have 14 BFD's how can that be?
How come some of the gym staff have staggered start times by as much as 6 hours?
There aren't recruit classes after 1600hrs.
How do range and gym staff members have time (while working - carried on the A&A's) to do videos for krav maga and do concealed carry classes?
How can some civilians come and go as they please with their real estate business, their consulting businesses? Heck, there's a civilian that doesn't show up for work till 1100 hrs. on a daily basis yet, no one is there to be sure that this indiv. works and entire shift. Which he/she does not!
Staff come and go as they please with no supervision and no one ensuring that they are putting in the 8 hours a day.
The blatent theft from the city over there is unreal and unchecked!
Staff come and go as they please with no supervision and no one ensuring that they are putting in the 8 hours a day.
The blatent theft from the city over there is unreal and unchecked!
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Oh, and while the boss is away the mice will play:
The Admin. Mgr. Over there is back to her old tricks.
Took two days off last week and is off again today.
The Soap Opera, known as FOP, continues!
/12/2014 12:16:00 AM
Oh really? Bougherty and Aguilar and Del Riveria do whats best for us?
So the Letter wasn't mailed Just because Shields 'forgot?'
Shields is a baby....and Out of His Depth...
But Dougherty's Team is a joke.
signed: 24 year VETERAN, DA REAL POLICE!
2/12/2014 01:47:00 AM
How many years of education do you have? Talk about a run on sentence.Geeez
Citywide at 1st watch recently in 16. Don't think he saw me but watched agular take down an opponents poster and put up citywide. Then he talks to us about integrity. Wow.
Key word folks is "whistle blower" - go read the statute. This POS is trying to collect 3x damages off everyone's backs before he rides off to whatever rat hole he will hide in.
Time for a real Organization to represent CPD. Perhaps NYPD's Union ???
O.T. - Looks like Newark N.J. is still suffering from the New Yorker's time there. Newark P.D. is going under a DOJ consent decree based on allegations of systemic misconduct that were not addressed during McLeeder's time there. When the, slash-and-burn search-and-destroy, policing scab falls off here, will we be left with a DOJ consent decree of our own? Lord knows the department is in tatters already!
OT: CLEAN THE ACADEMY OUT! If you are described on the A&A'S in a position such as secretary or timekeeper, time to get sent back to a didtrict. Hello media? Are u listening?
Call IAD and stop posting your bullshit on the blog. Its getting really old.
enough with the Academy bitching moron
To retired Sergeants, Lieutenants, and Captains, who are voting members of the FOP: When Lieutenant Jim O'Neil was working to get supervisors collective bargaining, Bill Nolan promised Jim that the supervisors were going to have their own FOP lodge. As the date drew nearer to submit names of bargaining organizations to put on a ballot from which the supervisors would choose, O'Neil learned that Nolan lied to him, and the supervisors would NOT have had their own lodge, and worse yet, the FOP Lodge 7 bargaining team would have done the negotiating for the supervisors contract. No supervisor would have been allowed to sit on the FOP board, or any negotiating team. O'Neil appealed to then national FOP president Gil Gelagos, who told O'Neil, "Bill Nolan IS the FOP in Illinois. What he says goes." That's why the supervisors went with the PBPA. We wanted to be with the FOP, but not under the provisions Nolan imposed. Dean Angelo was a leading proponent of anything Bill Nolan wanted to do. His failure to denounce Bill Nolan for not doing everything he could to have the supervisors join the FOP, in my opinion, speaks volumes. Dean lacked integrity, when it mattered most. He could have been a part of something historic, something that would have made Chicago Police unionization much more powerful that it is today, but, instead, chose the path of a politician, which I believe he still is.
Just got my ballot and voted for the most part for everyone I never heard of.....pretty freakin sad but I just feel we need new blood. A few of the candidates I know personally and voted accordingly...yah or nay. .but for the most part I was flying blind. Sad for the union I belonged to for over 31 years . I just retired and I couldn't place a vote for any of the retirees.
The motion was denied because Dougherty and the rest of the current members did what everyone quietly knows they do best: fight for what is best for every officer, current or retired, out there. Dougherty could have done nothing and let Shields derail the election for an indeterminate amount of time--
HOLY FUCK!!! Billy does something! FINALLY!!! Yaaaaayyyy billy the idiot!
Dude, get off of Bill's jock, its pathetic.
The only thing Billy is looking out for is Billy. That's it.
The ONLY reason Bill did something now is because he wants to be President. That's it. Bill could have easily called a meeting and have had "The Letter" signed. It would have made him look good and Mikey look bad. But he didn't. And because he wanted Mikey to fail sooo bad, it was at OUR (that includes you too!) expense. Ask yourself that when you 're looking at an empty hand that should have a Retro Check in it!
So, in essence, Fuck Bill Dougherty, and his Shitty Wide team. ALL of them, every last one, is exactly what's wrong with our FOP. All of the Old School needs to be kicked the fuck out. He wants Markey-Mark back in the mix? Seriously?
VOTE ALL OF THEM OUT! Every single fucking one of them!
Its interesting the candidates and their teams are finally actively attending roll calls. A common theme is the bump in pay for the FOP leadership. All seem to agree that it is quite high, but those running agree there is not a single thing that could be done since it is written in stone in the by laws. How about all that extra pay over your current civil service pay go back to our non-profit fraternal organization, a recognized charity or a scholarship for the children of the membership. The mantra of their is nothing we can do, its written in the by laws, with regards the bloated pay does not fly with the rank and file. You can argue travel expenses and other related expenses to justify your higher salary. If that is the case put in expense vouchers for all to see. Fat cat money and power corrupts. Who is paying for the mailings, posters and handouts with all that expensive, glossy professional looking literature. Are the candidates putting forth their own money or is their some sort of "scholarship" by those who have an interest in the union's money collected from the membership. I suspect the monies collected through the sweat, sacrafice and hard work of the brothers and sisters of the lodge are to be distributed for services or some other scam at a later date to those paying the freight for all that promising glitzy campaign literature. Follow the money fraternal brothers and sisters of the lodge.
Shields is a goof
But how much money has been spent in lawsuits under the Donahue, Dougherty and Geiger tenure?
I for one cant take another three years of drama. NO VOTE for Dougherty.
Please for the sake of our membership, don't vote citywide again, and again and again. I f anyone running has been an officer of the board before, do not vote for them again. Its just a vicious cycle again and again. I didn't vot for Shields, but for citywide and I made a mistake. They did hang that kid out to falter, that isn't Fraternalism. Young Officers that voted Shields in, Vote Citywide out!!!!!!
To the guy bashing Joe Shields, you are way off. Joe was truly a class guy and helped out many people over the years. Gob bless and RIP Joe! Shields boys don't let cowards get you down, you are a class family. It is a shame this job has come to anonymous postings which are meant to hurt people. A real brotherhood - bullshit! - E
Dear SCC, the following is a link to an online petition aimed at getting the City to install AEDs in all Police Stations and Fire Facilities.
Any Help you can give would be appreciated.
http://www.petitions24.com/help_save_chicago_police_officers_and_fire_fighters
Banish any consideration to the current team on back of front cover of fop book. Choose retirees and district blue shirts. Most units are created from clout. With age comes greater knowledge, and the blue shirts from the districts really do most of the work .. don't they ?
Make sure you choose the correct amount in each category. Do not leave a choice vacant allowing a marker to be used over there to be filled in. I'm going with blue shirts an no names, change might be good.
Ballots are out. Please everyone needs to vote. We need a high voter turnout to show rham we are better then he thinks. We need a higher average then 30% we need a 75% or better like the retirees do. Please send your ballots in. It your future now and down the line. Vote early and vote often.
Vote for district blue shirts. They do the most work and evidently have self respect about using any clout they may have to be moved.
We are a force to be reckon with. Vote and send your ballots in.
First of all the meeting on Thursday is because the chairman of the election called the makers of the ballots and told them to hold off since he is a bud of shields and knew this court action was being taken by shields. That's fuckn bogus and he should be bounced for not disclosing to fop board in fact he should be brought up on charges
Choose PO.s from the districts on the ballot . They do the most work, maybe that ethic can help our union.
Is the FOP picnic still on for this year?
The no time on job copper' put and elected him in. Bella would of made one great President of the FOP. He was always the real police and knew his shit.
Shields got fat on our dues and did not hide it. I would love to see his FOP credit card !!
He is going to be around for many more moons and when he makes Sgt, he will be write copper' up for lint on their shirts. Copper' from the east to the west coast heard of his antics.
Elect a good and honest FOP president and board this time.
Why is Harold Brown not allowed back into Lodge #7 after the State Lodge ordered him re-instated Three (3) Times?
Anyone, Any Info?
Shitywide is looking out for our best interests? Why is Mike Shields still receiving presidents pay?
...time change or what. aren't the lady curlier's beautiful..
With the salary read page 13 not as little as you say here is what they made 4 years ago but of course these guys gave them selves cola raises ,
http://990s.foundationcenter.org/990_pdf_archive/362/362467755/362467755_201012_990O.pdf
Watch who you vote for so the song "I'm in the money" does not bite us in the ass especially another beginner like mike shields!
Here's a dirty little secret, mike shields was elected because if memory is correct the mike shields who was on leave returned back to work, and some were duped thinking that mike shields who is smart and a good was running for fop president lets not get duped again!
Everyone please VOTE...
Although I like reading SCC and sometimes commenting on cases, let me give my two cents on your union and its leadership before you make another mistake.
The FOP should be a strong union and its members should trust that it is doing its best for them.
Based on my observations that hasn't been the case. The "old guard" were taking care of themselves and doing what was best for them.
When Shields pointed that out, he got enough attention to get voted in, but somehow the position overcame him and he succumbed to the same trappings (and perks) that he questioned the previous group for exploiting.
Now, you have a chance to elect new people some with new ideas and some with old ideas. Be cautious.
Shields was a stepping stone to a better union, but he failed to take it all-the-way. He WAS right
in one respect and that was the Union needed to be better than what it was.
Now, you have a choice of re-instituting the clouted few and going back to status quo or you can push further in making it a union for YOU, not a dues-paying organization where a few get a lot of perks, and a lot get few, if any, perks.
It should be a balance of old vets and new people and have a focus on taking care of everyone and not just "friends". If you fail to get the right people elected, FOP will continue to be FLOP, not only in this blog, but more importantly, in the eyes of those who have to deal with you on a contractual basis.
If I was on the other end of the table, I would want you to be disorganized, segmented and having multiple factions because it is so much easier in dealing with a union like that, than one that is strong (and united).
If I was on your side of the table, I would be yelling at you to wake up, grow up, and elect an effective team to lead you and get what you deserve.
Now you have the opportunity to rebuild FOP. Don't blow it.
If you do, you might as well have no union at all because what leadership you will elect, will only take care of itself, and not the rank-and-file.
Next case.
Its funny in my district the same idiots that feel for shields B.S. are falling for Dean the Dream's B.S.....looks like more of the same .. Can't wait to see Angelo on the front page of the paper playing softball while on DIsability ....kiss that benefit Goodbye !!!
Why is Harold Brown not allowed back into Lodge #7 after the State Lodge ordered him re-instated Three (3) Times?
Anyone, Any Info?
2/12/2014 03:58:00 PM
He violated the FOP By-laws and was expelled. I used to support him. Good riddance Harold Brown. Go cry to the troopers! Kevin Graham and Darin Bourett should file additional charges on H.B. at the state level.
The motion was denied because Dougherty and the rest of the current members did what everyone quietly knows they do best: fight for what is best for every officer, current or retired, out there. Dougherty could have done nothing and let Shields derail the election for an indeterminate amount of time--and for those of us who've ever been involved in a lawsuit, we know these could mean months and even years. If they had done nothing the current members in office would have stayed in office during the lawsuit. But instead of riding it out and letting Shields take the blame, Dougherty, Aguilar, and Del Riveria did what is best for the rank and file like they've been trying to do the last three years: stop Shields. All the Angelo and McDonagh supporters who bash Dougherty and the rest of City Wide, keep it up. While you're busy talking smack, they'll be busy making sure your interests are being protected.
I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.
If someone has the complaint - who was the atty to represent Shields? I don't believe Shields is bright enough to go pro se.
Curious minds want to know.
RIP Capt Harte
Will mail my ballot tonight. I split my vote three ways, male officers from patrol, female officers from patrol and retiree's. Tired of the politics of it all just want someone who's only aspiration is to represent the rank and file, past and present. Is that really too much to ask? Regardless of who you choose, let your voice be heard.
A Member Who's in the Know said...
Anonymous said...
The motion was denied because Dougherty and the rest of the current members did what everyone quietly knows they do best: fight for what is best for every officer, current or retired, out there. Dougherty could have done nothing and let Shields derail the election for an indeterminate amount of time--and for those of us who've ever been involved in a lawsuit, we know these could mean months and even years. If they had done nothing the current members in office would have stayed in office during the lawsuit. But instead of riding it out and letting Shields take the blame, Dougherty, Aguilar, and Del Riveria did what is best for the rank and file like they've been trying to do the last three years: stop Shields. All the Angelo and McDonagh supporters who bash Dougherty and the rest of City Wide, keep it up. While you're busy talking smack, they'll be busy making sure your interests are being protected.
Is your head so far up Dougherty's asshole that you can't breathe? Were the three amigos on the bench and made this ruling? You my friend are a goof. Plain and simple. Dougherty did do nothing. Dougherty let a judge hear Shields' frivolous claim and ruled on it. Did I mention you are a goof? When did any of the three amigos get their law degrees and make the bench? Dummy.
Fellow officers; please do not recycle the same old manure. Vote for change and send dougherty and citywide to retirement!
TIME FOR CHANGE. Don't let this experience BS that Citywide was pushing, fool you. Time for fresh bodies.
I stated three years ago, the only thing Shields ever did, he did in front of a camera... You elected him anyway! Reap what you sow!
Dougherty certainly isn't the answer! He hasn't done a frikkin thing in the twelve years we've had him! Only reason he stood up to Shields in the end was because he'd already been thrown out to the District (022) I might add, where he cried to work the desk!
Dean Angelo CERTAINLY isn't the answer, another "yes" man who never did a effin thing!
Don't know who I will vote for, but do know that I won't vote for anyone who is currently on this Board of Disaster! Nor will I vote for anyone who previously held an elected office with FOP!
The insiders never knew what they were doing... Might as well let an outsider give it a chance... can't do any worse in my book!
John Thomas got line of duty death because he was somebody, don't think this young detective will even get the same consideration.....this department and city at its best !!!
Is the FOP picnic still on for this year?
2/12/2014 03:23:00 PM
Who cares? Worry about the important things, like the golf outing.
3 58 pm. Becauser he is an asshole.
Is it true that Dean's Dingbats all voted in favor of Shields on the letter isue? YES IT IS! Go away, and get back to work.
This guy is like a bad case of herpes, he just keeps popping up when you really don't want him to! Please just go away!
lol - Shields is a fool !
If we want Change then don't vote for the people who are in office NOW. I just sealed my return envelope. I voted for as many blue shirts from the districts as I could. Vote for the working P.O. not the I'm in a cushy unit P.O. Maybe then maybe we can get some change.
Choose PO.s from the districts on the ballot . They do the most work, maybe that ethic can help our union
Great Advice I'm Voting for the Working Copper
Could anyone give a clear reason WHY WE NEED THREE VICE PRESIDENTS? Time we stop the wasteful management of our union dues. I also got a problem with how much money the top six spots make a year. It's sad how ALL this morons are in it for themselves. ENOUGH!!!!!
To ALL the candidates that attended the meeting and hit the roll calls I wish you the best. It isn't easy throwing yourself out there and running a clean race. It's too easy to post shit than give credit where credit is do.
To ALL Fop members - Please Vote!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Staff come and go as they please with no supervision and no one ensuring that they are putting in the 8 hours a day.
The blatent theft from the city over there is unreal and unchecked!
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Oh, and while the boss is away the mice will play:
The Admin. Mgr. Over there is back to her old tricks.
Took two days off last week and is off again today.
2/12/2014 12:14:00 PM
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Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT: CLEAN THE ACADEMY OUT! If you are described on the A&A'S in a position such as secretary or timekeeper, time to get sent back to a didtrict. Hello media? Are u listening?
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Call IAD and stop posting your bullshit on the blog. Its getting really old.
2/12/2014 12:51:00 PM
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Couldn't agree more. No one cares anymore because you overpost and you read like a shrill, miserable harpy. Take your complaints to IAD and stop inflicting yourself on us here.
Anonymous said...
Vote for district blue shirts. They do the most work and evidently have self respect about using any clout they may have to be moved.
2/12/2014 03:01:00 PM
Yes for sure just voted and did not vote for any from units only working district coppers!
I got my ballot today, Wednesday. It will be in the mail going back tomorrow. I wish there was more to pick from.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The no time on job copper' put and elected him in. Bella would of made one great President of the FOP. He was always the real police and knew his shit.
2/12/2014 03:38:00 PM
Greg always helped people, I know he helped me many times, no questions asked. He will get my vote for Recording Secretary, no doubt.
Here's a dirty little secret, mike shields was elected because if memory is correct the mike shields who was on leave returned back to work, and some were duped thinking that mike shields who is smart and a good was running for fop president lets not get duped again!
Yeah because tall, black and exempt Mike Shields who is a cousin to Michelle Obama was always confused with short, pale patrolman Mike Shields.
Where do you idiots come from?
He went there while on duty, in uniform, a complete dumbass. His Sgt should be sparred and I do not care if he later dropped a slip. You let a police officer go to a Court in a police uniform not related to the Department, Sgt should be dumped. I am going to my divorce court while on duty, in uniform. Shields is dumb and lazy, but the sgt is dumber.
2/12/2014 10:29:00 AM
Are you insane??? Brock Merk of all people for 2nd Vice President--this membership should be afraid of te damage this goof is capable of is elected by our membership and I am not saying this to derail the guy but after a few minutes of speaking to this guy you get the sense that he really is not in touch with the real world let alone the police world. He does not have the police officers best interest in mind and if he could he would move to eliminate many of the benefits we worked so hard to secure over the years. Unfortunately, when it comes to what is reasonable in terms of what is best for our union he really misses the mark. For example, if asked he will tell you he believes the medical should be drastically reduced by the number of days allowed on the medical roll to perminantly eliminating all paid medical time. He believes there should be no IOD or Convelecdnt duty for medical or on duty incidents. So if you hurt yourself and if an officer can perform the job he or she was hired to do then oh well that is your problem. He will back that up by saying he has never had a need to use the medical for person injury/sickness or IOD. He is very lucky in this area but for many of us we have kids and bills to meet and without our medical benefits would be seriously impacted by an medical related incident, Brock is also against members suffering from post tramatic stress syndrome either as a result from child birth, military service, or tramatic life event. He believes that if you have personal problems oh well, that is your problem better get another job. brock is out of touch with reality and could be a detriment to our union in fighting for our medical benefits, etc. I am not sure how much you know about this officer but he has never wanted for anything. His parents left him a family art business which he runs during the day and at night like a part time job which he refers to CPD as his "fun time" comes to CPD to work. He also does not have that many years on the job is around 78 in seniority on third watch in 014 and God knows the last thing we need in this union is another goof taking over or treating our Union. I ask you this -- How can we have someone like Brock as our president when he clearly isn't his number one priority nor does he relate to the average copper? Many of us have not had the luxury of not wanting for anything and must depend on our benefits to support us when tragedy occurres. Brock is in my opinion only is an ego maniac he is only interested in name recognition and and fancy title of some sort he really has a need to feel like he is important by running for some type of office, etc., trust me I am not making this up they guy will share everything I have just mention spending only a few minutes with him-- that is only after he has completely mind blanked you because he has a very bad habit of playing annoying mind games with anyone he comes Into contact with. Not to mention he treats most officers and people he comes into contact with on the sheet as though they are beneath him. Not good when representing a group of people you are supposed to protect. I really hope SCC posts this because unless you really know what this guy is about and decide to vote for him simply because he has not worked for fop before, he really could get elected and then what? We don't want another spoon fed clueless brat that has had it easy his entire life leading our union. If you don't believe me or think I am trying to derail this guy for no reason please do your homework and ask anyone that has worked with this goof on third watch in 014 for longer then a day. Please please please protect our benefits and all we have worked hard to secure over the year by not voting this guy into our union. Signed concerned FOP member 18+ years 014 officer.
I heard the lawsuit was dropped because he didn't file the paperwork in time.
The FOP is a circus...run by clowns playing their silly games at the expense of the membership.
I don't know if I want to vote for anyone running.
Off Topic but speaking about People who really PISS YOU OFF!!
I was channel surfing and caught the coming attractions of CHICAGO P.D. for next week.
It is to be a two-part crossover episode with Law & Order Special Victims which is another show I never watched. The reason I never watched that show is a lead actor is none other the infamous gang rapper "Ice-T".
"Ice-T", for those of you new to the job, the police family and culture and for that matter polite society, was the rap artist who published a song titled "Cop Killer". Who else remembers that?
It really soured me to see him playing a cop as much as the talk of Jane Fonda playing Nancy Reagan.
Turn off this turkey and let's get a real Chicago Cop show into production.
Stone City Marble and Granite company on Grand Ave. Just donated one to Area North. It's arriving today or tommorow.
While this is great, and they deserve many thanks for that, what a fucking embarrassment to this city that we can't get defibs in stations when they're in schools, offices, etc. I'm pretty sure there's one at the Jewel I shop at.
The motion was denied because Dougherty and the rest of the current members did what everyone quietly knows they do best: fight for what is best for every officer, current or retired, out there. Dougherty could have done nothing and let Shields derail the election for an indeterminate amount of time--and for those of us who've ever been involved in a lawsuit, we know these could mean months and even years. If they had done nothing the current members in office would have stayed in office during the lawsuit. But instead of riding it out and letting Shields take the blame, Dougherty, Aguilar, and Del Riveria did what is best for the rank and file like they've been trying to do the last three years: stop Shields. All the Angelo and McDonagh supporters who bash Dougherty and the rest of City Wide, keep it up. While you're busy talking smack, they'll be busy making sure your interests are being protected.
2/12/2014 12:16:00 AM
Yeah sure. Like they've done for the last three years. How can you even write this stuff. You all have further embarrassed the cpd and spat on every officer for a political agenda of taking over. I'm disgusted with the whole crew.
To whom it may concern:
Recently we lost a very young, Detective to a heart attack while working.
The day it happened, a post here on SCC asked why we did not have defibrillators in the district's, and the areas.
I would like to form a committee to accomplish this by placing defibrillators in all the districts, areas and firehouses.
I do not know if we would have to raise the funds ourselves, or with the assistance of the Safety Committees of either of the unions pressure the City into providing them.
I do know that within a week we could have petitions on all of our work places, expressing our desire that they be installed immediately.
I learned tonight that the City Colleges have them and the airports have them.
We should have them.
If we have to raise the money, we could do it.
I am sure a lot of businesses that make their livelihoods off Police and Fire like the Credit Unions, the uniform stores, etc. would love to help.
Lets give it a shot.
Kevin O'Rourke
If interested, please contact me via:
Kevin@kevinorourke.com
2/12/2014 12:49:00 AM
I agree. Could the Memorial Foundation foot this bill? It seems logical that they would.
My ballot arrived. It's filled out and sealed, ready for delivery. Good Luck to the candidates. I don't care who people vote for just VOTE.
Couldn't agree more. No one cares anymore because you overpost and you read like a shrill, miserable harpy. Take your complaints to IAD and stop inflicting yourself on us here.
2/12/2014 09:48:00 PM
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IAD has been notified on numerous occasions.
They don't do their jobs.
Some of those at the Academy have some pretty heavy juice and IAD doesn't wanna touch them.
Inspector G has been notified about the civilians. Let's see if they do their job.
How can some officers at the academy have more than 12, 14, 16 BFd's at the end of a year and already into 2014?
How can they have 7 8 9 P days?
All of the range staff seem to have the most days to either sell or carry over but if you have 14 BFD's how can that be?
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Ummm.... Could it be that they carried over bfd and pd's from 2013? I much prefer time away from this job to selling the days back to the city, so I carried over the maximum and currently have 18 total bfd and pd's in my bank.
I doubt anyone has 14 bfd's total, maybe just a combination of the days in their bank.
2/12/2014 08:50:00 AM
Umm no one can have 14 bfd's what kinda stuff is that? You only receive 4-6 a year and can only carry over 4 a year and must use those previously carried over that calendar year. The most you can have is 10. I skipped the guys ranting but now I'm gonna side with him. You guys are on some bs.
This guy is like a bad case of herpes, he just keeps popping up when you really don't want him to! Please just go away!
2/12/2014 01:46:00 AM
Great comment. Literally, I laughed out loud. Thx for the laugh.
I have just read all the posts and I realized that we have a bigger problem than Shields, Daugherty and the rest of the fools running the FOP. The problem is me and you, the rank and file. Most, not all, of the comments are vile, mean spirited, accusatory and without merit. All put out there for the media leeches and scumbag politicians to see what a disjointed, disorganized bunch of fools we are. How could any union negotiate from a position of strength when they don't have a cohesive membership. WE are the fucking problem.
Meanwhile, let's keep giving these assholes more ammunition to make us their budget scapegoats.
Could anyone give a clear reason WHY WE NEED THREE VICE PRESIDENTS? Time we stop the wasteful management of our union dues. I also got a problem with how much money the top six spots make a year. It's sad how ALL this morons are in it for themselves. ENOUGH!!!!!
2/12/2014 09:02:00 PM
Man I ask the same freakin question. Why do we need three VP when none of them can do their jobs? Three VP and only one person to send the letter? FOP must have no respect for the working copper's intelligence. If three VPs have no real responsibility in ensuring our contract is renegotiated then we have no need of three VPs. We need REFORM at the FOP. NOW!
I have known Dean for 20+ yrs he will do right by us!
You guys bash people with no proof of your allegations. You just do it because you dont like a certain copper. Shameful!!!! At least those who are running had enough cafre in their hearts to go to meetings while you were too busy being salty about everything in life!
SCC please edit the personal attacks
2/10/2014 11:35:00 PM
They probably learned from how the FOP does it. Bash and attack other coppers. Shameful is right.
Was he that delusional to think he would actually get more than 1 vote or get elected, if placed on the ballot? The answer is….Yes.
I'm sure shortshanks & td 9.5 will have a nice reward for their boy MS.
Will mail my ballot tonight. I split my vote three ways, male officers from patrol, female officers from patrol and retiree's. Tired of the politics of it all just want someone who's only aspiration is to represent the rank and file, past and present. Is that really too much to ask? Regardless of who you choose, let your voice be heard.
2/12/2014 06:08:00 PM
You base your vote on gender and tell everyone to vote, good or bad. You are an idiot of the highest order and the very reason this Country is a mess.
There should be an IQ test to vote.
Shields was removed illegally by state and city fop in 48 hrs of making those allegations by a crew led by dough boy and mark who served on past contract negotiation teams. There are 2 in house attorney's who are useless. These two idiots will cost the fop with their ill conceived rush to take over power. Hey fop Look up whistle blower lawsuits settlements and start to offer settlements now to save lawyer costs. Lawyer even mentions whistleblower in this move. Mmmm wonder why? Fop should worry more about packing up their offices to move out instead.
I heard the lawsuit was dropped because he didn't file the paperwork in time.
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Yeah, SCC says that right in the main post. Nice catch there detective.
As far as independents, liked day guy from 8, John I think. His story really hit home about being stripped.
Baloney - this guy will get YOU fired and just stand there going tsk-tsk. He's bad news, doesn't care about anything but himself. Ask him about his latest CR, where some shithead teenagers were grabbed by 009 in his car with weed. And he gave them permission to have the car while he was out of the country while IOD.
He is getting 170k to sit in a beat car in 018.
2/12/2014 10:44:00 AM
More like $212,000
These guys are scammers and those who have been there now and in the past did nothing to change it.
A CPD Chief gets about $175,000 per year or E8 formerly D8.
Back in 2005 the by-laws were changed. Instead of saying the president gets D8, they modified it to include union raises dating back to 1987. EVERY TIME THE MEMBERSHIP GETS A RAISE, SO DOES THE BOARD AND THE PRESIDENT.
http://chicagofop.org/constitution/const_bylaws_2005.pdf
page 16
Article III, Section 1(g):
The salary of the President shall be equal to a D-8 level as set forth in the 1987 Chicago Police Department Position and Salary Schedule and shall be increased periodically in the same amount as percentage increases granted to bargaining unit officers.
The reason his salary is over $200,000 is because of the "...and shall be increased.." part of the sentence. Every time the membership gets a raise, so does the president.
and it's the same for the board:
Page 20:
The Board of Directors shall set the salary of the Lodge Representatives at an amount equal to the D-5 level as set forth in the 1987 Chicago Police Department Position and Salary Schedule and shall be increased periodically in the same amount as percentage increases granted to bargaining unit police officers represented by Chicago Lodge No. 7.
Shields was removed illegally by state and city fop in 48 hrs of making those allegations by a crew led by dough boy and mark who served on past contract negotiation teams. There are 2 in house attorney's who are useless. These two idiots will cost the fop with their ill conceived rush to take over power. Hey fop Look up whistle blower lawsuits settlements and start to offer settlements now to save lawyer costs. Lawyer even mentions whistleblower in this move. Mmmm wonder why? Fop should worry more about packing up their offices to move out instead.
2/13/2014 06:51:00 AM
Let me understand this. The in-house lawyers crushed Mikey's lawsuit and he looked stupid - again. So now we should settle? And give Mikey money? That might be the dumbest crap I've ever read.
Vote for everyone on The List above! All independent for me!
IAD has been notified on numerous occasions.
They don't do their jobs.
Some of those at the Academy have some pretty heavy juice and IAD doesn't wanna touch them.
Inspector G has been notified about the civilians. Let's see if they do their job.
2/13/2014 12:25:00 AM
Ok well then there is absolutely nothing left for you to do. Thanks for the daily reminders. Do everyone a big favor and go back to a district. Problem solved.
Could anyone give a clear reason WHY WE NEED THREE VICE PRESIDENTS? Time we stop the wasteful management of our union dues. I also got a problem with how much money the top six spots make a year. It's sad how ALL this morons are in it for themselves. ENOUGH!!!!!
2/12/2014 09:02:00 PM
I agree...it's funny how Angelo Sr.'s team was touting in roll calls that they were not going to have a third v.p. slot on their ticket. Lo and behold, there is a third v.p. slot on his team. Same old bullshit.
Dougherty----Donahue----Street----the FOP Lodge 7 and State FOP ----Evil Cabal. Our cancer.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Couldn't agree more. No one cares anymore because you overpost and you read like a shrill, miserable harpy. Take your complaints to IAD and stop inflicting yourself on us here.
2/12/2014 09:48:00 PM
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IAD has been notified on numerous occasions.
They don't do their jobs.
Some of those at the Academy have some pretty heavy juice and IAD doesn't wanna touch them.
Inspector G has been notified about the civilians. Let's see if they do their job.
2/13/2014 12:25:00 AM
IAD is 'scared'? OR your bitching is baseless.
Either way, your job is done here and you can spare us your incessant posts.
Wonder what it says about the Angelo/McDonagh spin machines that even when the current administration does something that is undeniably good for the union (like stay up half the night working on legal documents that ensure that Shields doesn't continue to make a mockery of this election), they take the opportunity to spout their hate.
Wonder what that means about how they'd handle the difficult issues individual officers present them with(yes, this is really a big part of what running the lodge is all about for those of you with absolutely no experience)--whether if those officers came to them with problems they didn't want to handle if they too would get attacked by this spin machine.
Wonder what the hundreds, if not thousands, of officers Dougherty has helped over the years he's been part of the union think about the Angelo/McDonagh spin machine calling him "the devil incarnate?"
Wonder what african american officers think about the Angelo/McDonagh spin machine calling out City Wide for having "black officers join their ticket?"
Wonder whether the Angelo/McDonagh spin machine that is telling Shields "Best wishes Mike," is also telling him to keep fighting this crazy fight to distract everybody. And if they're also telling him if he does a good job doing so that they'll bring him upstairs when the election is all said and done (more than few officers have been saying this).
Hmmm. . .
Gotta wonder.
Guess the election results will tell who the real "roaches" are.
Dougherty and his Apple Dumpling Gang are career FOP do nothings that need to be pushing beat cars!
They are out of touch and feel we work for them, not the other way around! SEND HIM BACK! He is responsible for the lil dork mikey letter F'up as anyone else!
I have never seen as much back stabbing as this FOP election, yes being a FOP official is a cushy job, but regardless of what union you belong with, they are all the same, they promise you the world, just like a regular politician, and deliver only a little bit, they are all self centered and really don't give 2 FUCKS about us, I'm a retired Sgt. and still belong to FOP, why, because I want to support the police, but I must say this, Gentlemen after you retire not one fraternal organization cares about you, the police dept. must start a system of checking with the retired members to see how life is going, many retired guys have spent their entire adult lives on this job and the only friends they have are coppers. Next, when you retire your insurance package is totally screwed up, they change group numbers on you, and if you retire they then make you pay a second deductible for that year if you need any healthcare. I say try to push for better beenfits now and make your union work for your dues money, put these board members to work , or get rid of them, put them on notice at meetings, don't let them intimidate you , by saying you are out of line and that you are an idiot, remember, you, the members voted these guys in. And as always. STAY SAFE AND GOD BLESS YOU ALL.
The Shitty Wide team, never gets tired of praising themselves, for doing their jobs. Like the Veteran, that you strong armed, right Billy?
Wonder what it says about the Angelo/McDonagh spin machines that even when the current administration does something that is undeniably good for the union (like stay up half the night working on legal documents that ensure that Shields doesn't continue to make a mockery of this election), they take the opportunity to spout their hate.
Wonder what that means about how they'd handle the difficult issues individual officers present them with(yes, this is really a big part of what running the lodge is all about for those of you with absolutely no experience)--whether if those officers came to them with problems they didn't want to handle if they too would get attacked by this spin machine.
Wonder what the hundreds, if not thousands, of officers Dougherty has helped over the years he's been part of the union think about the Angelo/McDonagh spin machine calling him "the devil incarnate?"
Wonder what african american officers think about the Angelo/McDonagh spin machine calling out City Wide for having "black officers join their ticket?"
Wonder whether the Angelo/McDonagh spin machine that is telling Shields "Best wishes Mike," is also telling him to keep fighting this crazy fight to distract everybody. And if they're also telling him if he does a good job doing so that they'll bring him upstairs when the election is all said and done (more than few officers have been saying this).
Hmmm. . .
Gotta wonder.
Guess the election results will tell who the real "roaches" are.
You are no better than a race baiting storefront reverend. Race has nothing to do with this election. Better go out to dinner one last time on our FOP dime before March 7th agular.
Anonymous said...
As far as independents, liked day guy from 8, John I think. His story really hit home about being stripped.
Baloney - this guy will get YOU fired and just stand there going tsk-tsk. He's bad news, doesn't care about anything but himself. Ask him about his latest CR, where some shithead teenagers were grabbed by 009 in his car with weed. And he gave them permission to have the car while he was out of the country while IOD.
2/13/2014 08:00:00 AM
Just the fact that you remained nameless, talking shit you know little or nothing about, and referred to someone as "shitheads" tells me you are a racist piece of trash who has no business wearing a badge. Just to clue you dumb ass in, I had permission to leave the country since my trip was planned long before iod and nobody had permission to take my car which is why I won the impound hearing and got the money back. Have a great night. I pity guys like you who have nothing better to do but trash talk others while remaining nameless. Grow the hell up!
John Catanzara 008
I'm wondering what happened with the FOP election committee's decision on Aguilar & Co. using the FOP email lists and members of the their team using department emails to their spout propaganda. That's what I want to know. The ballots are out, so I guess the answer is nothing!
Angelo = Shields FACT What a joke we will be if we elect a "disabled" president who has been working full time throughout his so called disability.
Wonder whether the Angelo/McDonagh spin machine that is telling Shields "Best wishes Mike," is also telling him to keep fighting this crazy fight to distract everybody. And if they're also telling him if he does a good job doing so that they'll bring him upstairs when the election is all said and done (more than few officers have been saying this).
Hmmm. . .
Gotta wonder.
Guess the election results will tell who the real "roaches" are.
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Yes. The roaches have already invaded the building at 1412. Shall we mention again Aguilars blog in last election? You think DA and TD are the only ones who know how to spin? Those assholes up there started spinning so long ago, gravity no longer affects them.
Anonymous said...
Just got my ballot and voted for the most part for everyone I never heard of.....pretty freakin sad but I just feel we need new blood. A few of the candidates I know personally and voted accordingly...yah or nay. .but for the most part I was flying blind. Sad for the union I belonged to for over 31 years . I just retired and I couldn't place a vote for any of the retirees.
2/12/2014 01:31:00 PM
Then you have your head buried in the sand and have no knowledge of what is going on. Just what we need another new experiment, remember Shields the last experiment now you want another new one. Sounds pretty stupid especially during contract negotiations we need to put all new people in, right. Next time just throw your ballot in the garbage because you are just of the less informed voters and probably voted for our President also.
Anonymous said...
Dougherty and his Apple Dumpling Gang are career FOP do nothings that need to be pushing beat cars!
They are out of touch and feel we work for them, not the other way around! SEND HIM BACK! He is responsible for the lil dork mikey letter F'up as anyone else!
2/13/2014 04:30:00 PM
You must be one of the Shields supporters and just have the desire to bash Bill. In case you have not noticed the FOP has been moving in a more professional manner, all things aside Bill has done so much for this organization that you harboring such a hate shows this. As far as the emergency board meeting called today again it shows the same Shields supporters again railroaded the whole meeting, Ron Shoegran made the motion to dismiss the meeting and Dan Shields seconded the motion the Shields minions voted their normal way, and nothing got accomplished, other than the election committee is a tad bit tainted but not according to the Shields group. Business as usual. Bill again tried to upright the train and failed only because of the minions of the past president. These are the same people who are telling you that they will change things, perhaps just seats.
The Shields team has regrouped as the Angelo ticket. My favorite part is when they spout the "Citywide Hates Retirees" bullshit. Someone needs to remind those clowns that Steve Robbins ran on the Shields ticket last election. Which is now the Angelo ticket.
Shields screwed up the pension board and now the fop. Good job ass hat.
Hey folks, here's what the McDonagh spin machine is up to. Visiting roll calls and talking about the pension. No excuses. We are working police officers with responsibilities. Our focus isn't some made up leadership ability written on flyers and blogs, rather a leadership ability based on how we were raised and what we have become in life. Responsible, reasonable people. Not spin doctors.
Anonymous said...
I'm sure shortshanks & td 9.5 will have a nice reward for their boy MS.
2/13/2014 04:33:00 AM
Yeah, probably a new pair of cufflinks.
Bill Daugherty, called an emergency board meeting, to try to remove the chairman, Dan Barnett. It seems that Billy & company, didn't like Barnetts' refusal to listen to Billy. Their case against Barnett were a whole bunch of what ifs, that went nowhere. Billy, was then plunked by Ron Shogren, who ran with city wide, the last election. It's over for the city wore goons. They're getting beat at their own game.
The Shields team has regrouped as the Angelo ticket. My favorite part is when they spout the "Citywide Hates Retirees" bullshit. Someone needs to remind those clowns that Steve Robbins ran on the Shields ticket last election. Which is now the Angelo ticket.
Cappareli signed the checks All of them your dues money at work
Hell all, It's Wanda , 2 nd. VP alpha Girls and WTA. FYI, our CEO will be calling for the FOP to be no more. Karin will be forming a new union and will charge no dues with premo benifits. She will have the mayor giving us a 25 percent raise over four years and 5 more VD'. and up tp 10 bfd'.
You say how !! I say get rid of FOP and watch this Lady hit us all a jackpot.
Girls rule !!!
Gentlemen after you retire not one fraternal organization cares about you, the police dept. must start a system of checking with the retired members to see how life is going, many retired guys have spent their entire adult lives on this job and the only friends they have are coppers
*****************************
The above reired Sgt spoke words that are so-so true. Us retired guys, lived for the job and then the job and all your friends are GONE.
It is a sad state to be in.
Our bodies are shot from the years otj, but our hearts will always be with the CPD. I would go back in a New York second if I could.
You young guys think that being a retired copper is grand, but you will see how sad it is when your time comes. Once a coppper, always a copper. Amen !
Anonymous said...
Just got my ballot and voted for the most part for everyone I never heard of.....pretty freakin sad but I just feel we need new blood. A few of the candidates I know personally and voted accordingly...yah or nay. .but for the most part I was flying blind. Sad for the union I belonged to for over 31 years . I just retired and I couldn't place a vote for any of the retirees.
2/12/2014 01:31:00 PM
Then you have your head buried in the sand and have no knowledge of what is going on. Just what we need another new experiment, remember Shields the last experiment now you want another new one. Sounds pretty stupid especially during contract negotiations we need to put all new people in, right. Next time just throw your ballot in the garbage because you are just of the less informed voters and probably voted for our President also
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Hey joker. I also voted for all legit guys from districts that are not associated with tickets. I've heard many ask pointed questions at FOP meeting for the last 6 years toward Donahue, Shields, and Dorety from these same guys. Some are District Reps.
We need new blood that isn't egotistical like Shields. All the guys from a district not running on slates fit that bill.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Dougherty and his Apple Dumpling Gang are career FOP do nothings that need to be pushing beat cars!
They are out of touch and feel we work for them, not the other way around! SEND HIM BACK! He is responsible for the lil dork mikey letter F'up as anyone else!
2/13/2014 04:30:00 PM
You must be one of the Shields supporters and just have the desire to bash Bill. In case you have not noticed the FOP has been moving in a more professional manner, all things aside Bill has done so much for this organization that you harboring such a hate shows this. As far as the emergency board meeting called today again it shows the same Shields supporters again railroaded the whole meeting, Ron Shoegran made the motion to dismiss the meeting and Dan Shields seconded the motion the Shields minions voted their normal way, and nothing got accomplished, other than the election committee is a tad bit tainted but not according to the Shields group. Business as usual. Bill again tried to upright the train and failed only because of the minions of the past president. These are the same people who are telling you that they will change things, perhaps just seats.
2/13/2014 07:53:00 PM
What happened to Rich Aguliar using my email address that I gave to the lodge to send me email updates that he used to send me his shitty wide propaganda?
The general consensus from everyone I've spoken with or overheard comments by is as follows: There are basically 4 tickets running in this election. Three are full tickets including a President nomination and one that is primarily Trustees. From everyone's perspective that I have encountered, people are having a challenging time deciding. If we stick with Bill, it may be the same board that we've encountered time and time again that may or may not be responsible for the current state we are in. Tom Mcdonagh is a Detective and people fear that we will be left with another board that is primarily detectives that we've experienced numerous times in the past. Dean has been on disability and people are concerned primarily over this fact plus there are talks about how he was on Nolan's team and people were not happy with his past performance. From what everyone can gather the Watchdog ticket promises to oversee everything going on no matter what President or ticket is voted in. I personally have not heard any significant negativity about any of the independents running. My recommendation is that everyone do their own research and form an educated opinion and vote accordingly. Listening to people bash the candidates and offer one sided opinions does not help any of us.
Gentlemen after you retire not one fraternal organization cares about you, the police dept. must start a system of checking with the retired members to see how life is going, many retired guys have spent their entire adult lives on this job and the only friends they have are coppers
*****************************
The above reired Sgt spoke words that are so-so true. Us retired guys, lived for the job and then the job and all your friends are GONE.
It is a sad state to be in.
Our bodies are shot from the years otj, but our hearts will always be with the CPD. I would go back in a New York second if I could.
You young guys think that being a retired copper is grand, but you will see how sad it is when your time comes. Once a coppper, always a copper. Amen !
2/13/2014 11:49:00 PM
Not always true. I loved the job, will always be CPD, spent 40 years on, but I cant say enough about how great retirement is. I have many friends outside the department and never relied on just CPD for friends. A sgt told me when I came on "Do not give up outside interests and friends" and that was a true statement. Between pension, deferred and most importantly good health I'm enjoying the hell out of retirement.
Umm no one can have 14 bfd's what kinda stuff is that? You only receive 4-6 a year and can only carry over 4 a year and must use those previously carried over that calendar year. The most you can have is 10. I skipped the guys ranting but now I'm gonna side with him. You guys are on some bs.
You are 100% right No way can you have more than 10. Thats a fact. Anything carried over has to be used the following year.
I have never seen as much back stabbing as this FOP election, yes being a FOP official is a cushy job, but regardless of what union you belong with, they are all the same, they promise you the world, just like a regular politician, and deliver only a little bit, they are all self centered and really don't give 2 FUCKS about us, I'm a retired Sgt. and still belong to FOP, why, because I want to support the police, but I must say this, Gentlemen after you retire not one fraternal organization cares about you, the police dept. must start a system of checking with the retired members to see how life is going, many retired guys have spent their entire adult lives on this job and the only friends they have are coppers. Next, when you retire your insurance package is totally screwed up, they change group numbers on you, and if you retire they then make you pay a second deductible for that year if you need any healthcare. I say try to push for better beenfits now and make your union work for your dues money, put these board members to work , or get rid of them, put them on notice at meetings, don't let them intimidate you , by saying you are out of line and that you are an idiot, remember, you, the members voted these guys in. And as always. STAY SAFE AND GOD BLESS YOU ALL
It would be nice if you continued with the same insurance,but you don't. Why if you went from active po to retired, would you believe the policy number wouldn't change and the deductible apply? Its a different insurance policy with different benefits.
I hope that we do not make the same mistakes again. Vote for the following:
1. Candidates that you personally know and have confidence in.
2. Candidates that will bring to the Board of Directors both previous Board experience AND candidates who have no Board experience but new ideas.
3. Candidates from all of the tickets so that it not one slate who is elected.
Only with this mixture will the FOP go forward with a Board of Directors diverse in experience and new ideas as well as members who were no slated together but going forward will provide the check and balance needed.
It appears that everyone is posting about the upcoming election when the original post is about FOP President suing FOP. Just a suggestion, but I think it's about time for a new original post SSC.
Anonymous said...
I'm wondering what happened with the FOP election committee's decision on Aguilar & Co. using the FOP email lists and members of the their team using department emails to their spout propaganda. That's what I want to know. The ballots are out, so I guess the answer is nothing!
2/13/2014 06:34:00 PM
actually I filed formal charges on Rich today for that very reason so let's see just how on the up n up the citywide team is when it's one of their own this time.
Anonymous said...
Dougherty and his Apple Dumpling Gang are career FOP do nothings that need to be pushing beat cars!
They are out of touch and feel we work for them, not the other way around! SEND HIM BACK! He is responsible for the lil dork mikey letter F'up as anyone else!
2/13/2014 04:30:00 PM
You must be one of the Shields supporters and just have the desire to bash Bill. In case you have not noticed the FOP has been moving in a more professional manner, all things aside Bill has done so much for this organization that you harboring such a hate shows this. As far as the emergency board meeting called today again it shows the same Shields supporters again railroaded the whole meeting, Ron Shoegran made the motion to dismiss the meeting and Dan Shields seconded the motion the Shields minions voted their normal way, and nothing got accomplished, other than the election committee is a tad bit tainted but not according to the Shields group. Business as usual. Bill again tried to upright the train and failed only because of the minions of the past president. These are the same people who are telling you that they will change things, perhaps just seats.
2/13/2014 07:53:00 PM
What happened to Rich Aguliar using my email address that I gave to the lodge to send me email updates that he used to send me his shitty wide propaganda?
2/14/2014 12:45:00 AM
The above jerkoffs can all go pound sand. I didn't vote for any of the above bums, there are no solutions in this bunch, only more problems.
Finally, after many years, the only ones who are making sense at long last are Kevin C Jans and Brock Merck. For President I went with Peblanski. If there were down there previously, I did not vote for them. That left some positions blank on my ballot. So be it. Too many bums.
Get your ballots in guys and gals. This nonsense of beating each other up over this election will soon be over and we will have to come together as one no matter what slate we came from! Let the membership speak in the form of ballots not this blog beating on each other with personal insults and attacks.
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