Parking Tickets Up
Evidently, the numbers of Parking Tickets being written by the CPD is up (via TheExpiredMeter.com):
- Mayor Rahm Emanuel touted the reassignment of hundreds of police officers to the streets as a better way to fight crime.
And while crime did drop last year, the redeployment of officers from desk jobs to beat duty has had another possible outcome: more parking tickets.
[...] Police spokesman [...] insisted police brass did not order officers to write up more parking scofflaws.
They certainly didn't - that would be trouble on various levels. However, the carrot-and-stick approach seems to work. If you want a shot at working Violence Reduction Initiatives (VRI), then you better come in with activity, to wit Parkers, Movers, Curfew, School Absentees, Arrests, ANOV's. No numbers, no shot at your portion of $100 million in overtime.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
73 Comments:
And this is a good thing. More tickets = more revenue for the City. And, minor crimes are being fought. The NYPD's broken window theory alive and well in Chicago.
It had nothing to do with desk people on the street. Let's see, they were so thrilled about going to a district they picked up their activity, hahaha
amusing that they tout the number of parking tickets up.
but what if they are written for city employees vehicles like for example cta employees and therefore are never paid...ya know like the red light cam tickets and the speed trap cam tickers to save the children.
the propaganda goes out about how many tickets were written as a metric of success... but we ask how many are actually paid.
rahm talks a tuff game on these guys but has done little about it.
why..well we guess the inflated numbers are used as a tool
Parking enforcement hammers the white tax paying neighborhoods...and I even it out...way down South! lol
[...] Police spokesman [...] insisted police brass did not order officers to write up more parking scofflaws.
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like daley's nephew case. no-one has 'to order officers' anything. y'all know what to do...right
The VRI point is valid, but the majority of the increase is due to the PPO foot posts. In less than a year some of these kids have racked up 700 parkers each. Don't believe me? Ask any of the PPO foot posts about parkers. It's all they really can do to pass the time.
They raised the fines again on the parkers. I am a bit of a parking nazi of sorts and the fines are beginning to embarrass me because they're too damn expensive. These greedy bastards are going to make those tickets so expensive most of us won't write them and those of us that do will risk an injury fighting off pissed off motorists.
I would venture that the majority of those parking tickets were not written by desk jockeys re-assigned to the street.
I would bet they were written by officers working VRI, assigned to a two-block area to circle all night, who just got bored and started to ticket every infraction they saw.
In the VRI target areas, like the "Ghetto".
That's marvelous! A little payback for hitting churches, residential streets and restaurants in our home areas.
Well parking tickets are about to drop significantly after vri was cut by 40 percent. Cant complain though we should have gotten it while the getting was good.
Still too many Inside Doing Nothing!!
Hey Got CU? Or Weekends Off?
Or...maybe "they" can thank Operation Impact for the increase in revenue. An over sight perhaps on "activity".
The more things change the more they stay the same. Retired 8 years and this stuff was going on when I was a recruit.
Still too many Inside Doing Nothing!!
Hey Got CU? Or Weekends Off?
Keep Working the inside peoples Luvs Ya!!!! Ya make us all look good Sorry for No Cu or weekends off keep suxing it up
The primary purpose of government is to collect ever increasing taxes so that it can expand. Parking tickets are a form of taxation.
And this is a good thing. More tickets = more revenue for the City- But No Money for our pension
I have said it before, GOOD!
I work in 002 and am assigned to the Kenwood/Hyde Park community and seeing how much the residents there complain about the police I allow them to see that I am present and enforcing the laws.
Ask yourself ...Do you betray the public's trust Do you earn your pay check The more things change the more they stay the same
Ok I don't get this in order to work vri u must have activity doesn't that feel like pressure from brass?
God forbid anybody have some activity.
It is simple!
Tickets are up because of the dreaded Quota system!
You want extra money in your pocket, this is what the city wants and thieving politicians want! Its for the children!
5 Parking Tickets, 5 Movers, 5 ANOVs a month to qualify!
That is why people in this city are getting sandbagged with pimpy tickets!
They don't count ANOVs to work VRI.
VRI.... all of you are hurting yourselves in the long run. Look at thembig picture. These assholes dangle a few dollars and you jump pike its a life saving thing. I refuse to do anythingn to help the very people that are trying to take my pension and make me wait years for my contract. Li, e William Wallace said.... you fight for the scraps that Longshanks throws you.
Is this what passes for "news reporting"- that the media basically repeats what it is said by someone in power or a news release? If the news "reporter" would dig deeper they would find indeed officers have not been shuffled from desk duties to the streets. That the truth of the matter is that certain units were disbanded (those officers were already on the streets) and then those very same officers were assigned to marked patrol units. So nothing changed and no the department by magic didn't find all of this hidden manpower. That my friends is a complete lie.
In my district I have noticed that all of the PPO's come in with several tickets per day. They are all told to come in with activity or else; they are probationary employees and thus can be dropped immediately.
Cops are always a sucker for the cash.
Years back the wagon on afternoons in 025 was writing over 25,000 tickets a years.
Anonymous said...
The VRI point is valid, but the majority of the increase is due to the PPO foot posts. In less than a year some of these kids have racked up 700 parkers each. Don't believe me? Ask any of the PPO foot posts about parkers. It's all they really can do to pass the time.
2/26/2014 01:10:00 AM
And wait until the new bike patrols get going.
Cpd has way to many sworn police officers working as clerks , hire civilians for half the pay to office duties.
Does anybody issue tickets for vehicles without working headlights or equipment damage any longer? I counted twenty cars on the road with only one headlight recently. This is an every day occurrence.
Yesterday, I saw a car without a front bumper.
Civilian Chicagoan
OT... how is there a speed camera on the 4600 block of S. Western Ave. There are no parks, schools or anything about the children for that to be there.
Rahm, you have truly learned from your former boss you LIAR!
O.T. - Pension seminar. The FOP DID NOT COORDINATE anything. Lt. John Garrido invited the FOP to come. More lies from FOP. The FOP officers are desperate with a capital D to get re-elected. Good-Bye Citywide Team.
Names have been changed to protect the innocent,incidents similar in nature are purely coincidental,this broadcast is not pro ticket or condoning quotas,all parties involved not liable unless clouted with Daley manure,continue on your path,and keep sights on the goal,returning to your regular broadcasting! Now a word from our sponsor, Rhamatutupyour raise!
We'll they are about to drop just like the amount of officers assigned VRI nitely.
Just sayin
A few years ago I got a parking ticket in the mail. The only problem was I didn't live in Chicago at the time, and had never in my life been to the location where I got the ticket.
I called the number on the ticket, and the woman on the phone told me that it wasn't a typo or a meter maid, but that a police officer had written the ticket, so it was even more likely to be valid. She said there were no typos or smudges and it was very, very clearly written.
I appealed it by including a letter from my company that stated I was at work, in a completely different part of the state during the time this cop wrote my car a ticket.
It wasn't transposed digits since the make and model and color and stuff were all correct.
Could this have been a crooked cop flipping through a database and writing tickets for some reason? They dismissed the ticket but I never heard another word back. Pretty strange to write a parking ticket to a car that had never been on that street. Anyone hear of this before?
all 15 people in 16s front office must be writing tickets from the office windows
What is this parking ticket that you speak of?
1/2 of those parkers were written by 1 foot guy in 018. ;)
Im not writing any tickets. When I see the fine amounts and the high fees. Im not stiffing the middle class.
I wonder how many parking violations would be written if we were told that this was the way to fix the pension shortfall??
Not a car in Chicago would be safe from a parking violation, as there are so many rules/laws on the books that probably 90 percent (high/low guess?) have something wrong with them.
Half of the south east residents won't even pay the tickets. They drive suspended all day for financial. They don't care. The city no -suits everything. Waste of time writing them in the hood, for VRI all wright as many needed. What the hood needs ate tvb units to impound and punish these people that drive dirty all day.
You officers are still writing f--king parking tickets while the Mayor is trying to take away your Pension Benefits?
The Mayor cannot make you his Bitch.
Only YOU can make yourself the Mayor's Bitch.
Our benifits were fought for by many.
Don't Punk Out.
Your Pension depends on it.
Target where the non tax paying areas are. Why should the high taxing pay areas like the 41st ward be hit on non stop? O'Connor won't do anything to get rid of these assholes. She won't stand up to that piece of shit on the 5th floor. Vote for anybody but her next year. Coppers and their families should be ashamed of them selves for voting for her over Gavin, who comes from a Police family.
Could this have been a crooked cop flipping through a database and writing tickets for some reason? They dismissed the ticket but I never heard another word back. Pretty strange to write a parking ticket to a car that had never been on that street. Anyone hear of this before?
Probably had a typo when typing in the correct plate on the computer and weren't paying attention to what they were doing and wrote the ticket to your car (because of the typo) which wasn't in front of them. it happens.
all 15 people in 16s front office must be writing tickets from the office windows
Right Brony says
the PO Crossing Guard Supervisors must be writing on their weekends and holidays off too
Starting Feb. 2014, the city counts ANOV tickets for VRI assignments! Pay attention during roll call!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Does anybody issue tickets for vehicles without working headlights or equipment damage any longer? I counted twenty cars on the road with only one headlight recently. This is an every day occurrence.
Yesterday, I saw a car without a front bumper.
Civilian Chicagoan
2/26/2014 09:16:00 AM
Hit a pothole, lose a headlight. Happens all the time. Then, ticket 'em, on top of it? NO. Get over it.
Only YOU can make yourself the Mayor's Bitch.
Our benifits were fought for by many.
Don't Punk Out.
I'm trying to get my Spot and Hide Inside
More tickets, such BS. The Tribune reported that the City of Chicago is going to spend up to $320 million dollars on its next dubious project, Obama's gift to Chicago, a manufacturing hub on Goose Island. Let's see, $320 million + $55 million for Maggie Daley park +$70 million for DePaul Arena = around $445 million. The little prick is crying poor that he can't make a $600 million pension payment next year. Do the math, $445/$600 = 74%. In these three project's alone, he has pissed away 74% of what could possibly be used to finance pensions. What's up next? Millions more for Obama's presidential library. Were fucked if this keeps up.
It wasn't transposed digits since the make and model and color and stuff were all correct.
Could this have been a crooked cop flipping through a database and writing tickets for some reason? They dismissed the ticket but I never heard another word back. Pretty strange to write a parking ticket to a car that had never been on that street. Anyone hear of this before?
2/26/2014 11:01:00 AM
You are full of shit. Parking tickets have never asked for model or color of a vehicle. If you're going to try to start a crooked cops fiasco try learning what you are talking about first!
Cpd has way to many sworn police officers working as clerks , hire civilians for half the pay to office duties
I don't mind the office duties. But this needs to be changed by seniority all those positions. Im working the streets while somebody with 5 years on is behind the desk. It should be reserved for older guys who put in there time on the streets.
Bill your experience cost us retro pay limited duty, among other things. You have no answers. Go away.
They don't count ANOVs to work VRI.
2/26/2014 07:18:00 AM
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Wrong. 5 ANOV's with two other categories gets you the VRI dance ticket.
Do the math , if you write 5 Anovs , and 5 Parker's that average in the area of $100 a piece that's $1,000 you are bringing in to work vri and if you are only getting 1 or 2 days the city is still money ahead. They are making enough to pay the overtime costs and then some.
Cpd has way to many sworn police officers working as clerks , hire civilians for half the pay to office duties
I don't mind the office duties. But this needs to be changed by seniority all those positions. Im working the streets while somebody with 5 years on is behind the desk. It should be reserved for older guys who put in there time on the streets
Ya Why the PO Crossing Guard Supervisors with Weekends and Holidays Off!! WTF that should go to folks that are KMA and well over 20Plus years
I don't mind the office duties. But this needs to be changed by seniority all those positions
Amen you shouldn't get your spot because the old cmdr liked you or because your mommy or daddy was a boss or for your looks or your sexual persuasion
Dump these folks FOP should push to enforce seniority U shouldn't be inside with under 16yrs or have weekends and holidays off
The working cops never get CU
Typical CPD you get fuked over for working and others sit back
Get in line for a day off that you wanted for your family or a special occasion and have it denied last minute or work mids because you don't have enough time on the job then you'll know what it's like to get fuked over
Ya Why the PO Crossing Guard Supervisors with Weekends and Holidays Off!! WTF that should go to folks that are KMA and well over 20Plus years
Just lay off your hate crusade
Get in line for a day off that you wanted for your family or a special occasion and have it denied last minute or work mids because you don't have enough time on the job then you'll know what it's like to get fuked over
^Please don't be bitter and keep pushing your squad
U shouldn't be inside with under 16yrs or have weekends and holidays off . More like 20 years kid funny those at the academy have less than 10
Does anybody issue tickets for vehicles without working headlights or equipment damage any longer? I counted twenty cars on the road with only one headlight recently. This is an every day occurrence.
Yesterday, I saw a car without a front bumper.
Civilian Chicagoan
2/26/2014 09:16:00 AM
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Dear Citizen,
We are not aloud to write many of those tickets anymore, because it was considered racial profiling
"Racist" if you will.
Signed, a old traffic cop
Welcome to the Suburbs!!
Get in line for a day off that you wanted for your family or a special occasion and have it denied last minute or work mids because you don't have enough time on the job then you'll know what it's like to get fuked over
Hold on there sonny.......
Back in the day the new guys rotated from afternoons to midnights and your day off group got changed every period to maker sure you never got a weekend off.
The reason officers with 5 years on work the desk is because no one else wants to do it. Have you ever been at any desk in the ghetto districts. Its a fucking nightmare in those places, and you cant just 19p jobs at the desk. So people with time on the job actually like being outside where they can do nothing and send every to the station desk.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The reason officers with 5 years on work the desk is because no one else wants to do it. Have you ever been at any desk in the ghetto districts. Its a fucking nightmare in those places, and you cant just 19p jobs at the desk. So people with time on the job actually like being outside where they can do nothing and send every to the station desk.
2/27/2014 02:13:00 PM
Yeah. Uh-huh. Sure.
Hold on there sonny.......
Back in the day the new guys rotated from afternoons to midnights and your day off group got changed every period to maker sure you never got a weekend off
Ok that must have hurt you then too Did you have the privileged that always have weekends and holidays off too
Hold on Sonny boy back in the day you never got any time for going to court either but it's the 21st Century now and Still Time Due Denied
The reason officers with 5 years on work the desk is because no one else wants to do it. Have you ever been at any desk in the ghetto districts. Its a fucking nightmare in those places,
Right but in the slower dists??? KMA should be taken care of then
Lt at VRI in 011 said they been tracking po's activity at VRI and they're gonna pick and choose who they want to work VRI based on activity.
Interesting story, SCC, but now having learned that you guys are harassing ordinary citizens more so you can work more VRI, maybe just maybe some of us might than VRI not such a good idea after all. I would hate to see that gravy train stop for you guys. I have friends on the department who don't know what they'd do without it.
But we just have to rethink it, manage it better, give out less of it. You know: Doing more with less.
And then there's that matter of your pensions.
Anonymous said...
Hold on there sonny.......
Back in the day the new guys rotated from afternoons to midnights and your day off group got changed every period to maker sure you never got a weekend off
2/27/2014 07:00:00 PM
Regular rotation was midnights to 3rd watch to 2nd watch. Only the real problem children had DOG changes every period. Others might have had DOG changes before their weekends off came up. I recall one old fuck with a police shirt he had worn his entire career opening his desk drawer when I asked for a locker. No fucking way I was going to pay for a fucking locker. I worked out of the trunk of my car, old station at Wood St. Somehow we managed to do our job without all this whining crap. The police were good then. I'd go to a call and see other cars slide by to make sure I was all right. People remembered what job others were on or else they wrote everything down. No computer to look up everything. We used something called memory. If you called for backup you got several cars flying in with blue lights. Pretty good times all in all.
Anonymous said...
Cpd has way to many sworn police officers working as clerks , hire civilians for half the pay to office duties.
2/26/2014 09:16:00 AM
In typical CPD fashion, they already did that. They had civilian Police Aides working the desk to free up coppers. After the initial shake up most districts ended up with people who would work and who learned the job. We had a good one in 019 on 3rd Watch. She knew the desk and booking/bonding better than any desk sergeant.
Then some idiot decided to eliminate that position to save money. After 10 years the City shitcanned her and they had to once again pull in a PO from outside. This City sucks. I've seen shit like that many times. Very inefficient and makes no sense. They had a group of civilians who knew a job and did that job and who were paid less than PO's. Then they fired them all. No sense. They let them bid for jobs elsewhere in the city but they took a pay cut.
Anonymous said...
More tickets, such BS. The Tribune reported that the City of Chicago is going to spend up to $320 million dollars on its next dubious project, Obama's gift to Chicago, a manufacturing hub on Goose Island. Let's see, $320 million + $55 million for Maggie Daley park +$70 million for DePaul Arena = around $445 million. The little prick is crying poor that he can't make a $600 million pension payment next year.
2/26/2014 07:33:00 PM
It will really be a design hub, an idea incubator. They come up with designs and ideas and China and Malaysia get the factories.
Cpd has way to many sworn police officers working as clerks , hire civilians for half the pay to office duties.
2/26/2014 09:16:00 AM
In typical CPD fashion, they already did that. They had civilian Police Aides working the desk to free up coppers. After the initial shake up most districts ended up with people who would work and who learned the job. We had a good one in 019 on 3rd Watch. She knew the desk and booking/bonding better than any desk sergeant.
Then some idiot decided to eliminate that position to save money. After 10 years the City shitcanned her and they had to once again pull in a PO from outside. This City sucks. I've seen shit like that many times. Very inefficient and makes no sense. They had a group of civilians who knew a job and did that job and who were paid less than PO's. Then they fired them all. No sense. They let them bid for jobs elsewhere in the city but they took a pay cut.
What about hiring more cadets?
In area districts that are basically a nightmare while working the desk, the walk-ins are comparable to just like getting your patrol calls inside instead of responding to them outside, therefore, civilians are not suited to deal w/walk in complainants. Sure, they can handle some duties, but found they got in the way more than anything when we had them @ our desk. It takes about 5 years for a sworn officer to be comfortable with what your dealing with when you're answering calls, so how can a civilian really know how to respond to requests/complaints when they have not been out there answering calls. At our desk, sometimes it's just like being out there in the street! P/O's in uniform w/time on the job command the presence & experience that's needed even at a front desk that's erroneously viewed by too many that it's just an office job.
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