Stop Counting!
From the comments:
- We were told at a recent roll call that 35h St has stopped using/including Weekend shooting/homicide numbers in their stats if they happen after 8a.m. Sunday morning.
Has anyone else heard this?
Well, Let's see - Friday into Saturday, we found one article that said the following:
- At least four people were killed and 27 others wounded within 16 hours across Chicago.
- Four people were killed and at least 34 have been wounded in shootings across the city since Friday night, Chicago Police said.
So Garry's crime fighting strategies seem to indicate that only 7 additional people got shot during the rest of the weekend? Once again, we're going to speculate that someone is playing games with the numbers by selectively choosing the time frames in which they report crime.
It's a believable statement.
Furthermore, the article lists the following four people killed this weekend:
It's a believable statement.
Furthermore, the article lists the following four people killed this weekend:
- a 21-year-old woman was gunned down while riding in a car on Fullerton Avenue near Kedzie Boulevard
- a 17-year-old boy was shot and killed in the Austin neighborhood on the West Side
- a man was killed and a woman was wounded in a shooting in the Back of the Yards neighborhood.
- Late Friday, a 32-year-old woman was fatally shot in the West Pullman neighborhood
Those appear to be the four everyone agrees were killed. But then a quick scan of the headlines finds these:
- A Cicero man was stabbed to death in the Little Village neighborhood early Sunday, authorities said.
- A South Austin man was ordered held on $750,000 bail Sunday after prosecutors say he struck and killed a man with his vehicle Saturday.
They charged the second guy with First Degree Murder, but the vehicular homicide doesn't appear in any of the weekend tallies over at the Tribune. Nor does the stabbing. So again, someone is playing games with the media, who is either too lazy to correct their own numbers in the face of obvious half-truths issued by the Department, or they're in on the game.
Labels: stats
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
100 Comments:
ha... no. still 1201am friday to 1159 sunday.
I guess their prestigious degrees from the Ivy League colleges don't mean shit in the real world if you can't understand basic math.....
That's the problem pretend it's not happening .i was thinking the same thing twenty something folks shot fri and now just thirty sun . It's gonna be a long hot summer in Chicago becareful out there.
They also said the dept will not count homicides for the months of jun, jul and aug because warm months have nothing to do more murders.
in addition to the chicago mag. two part story on the crime numbers manipulation, the crimeinboystown blog has noticed that in one on-line city database about 22% of reported crimes has just "disappeared"
Then you have the CNN story about how the documentary "Chicagoland" was completely scripted by the city political apparatus.
The mayors Accretive health company that he tried to intimidate the MN AG to back off on has been delisted from the exchange it's stock was listed on and the exec's are all jumping ship.
Then there's that AAR corp. that the mayor said couldn't find welders and mechanics and had over 600 openings that they could not fill.
Google AAR and see how the stock tumbled recently and the analyst views are pretty sad to say the least,
So much for matching city college education to business needs BULLSHIT.
WTF??
hahaha well what's your definition of Weekend?
Look at your calendar.
The week ends on a Saturday and a new line starts on Sunday.
SO. It's only common sense that the weekend is Friday night and then ends on Saturday right?
/sarcasm
Is McCarthy going to blame this on Weis, too?
It is a mercy to protect the people who would be psychologically battered by the true knowledge of the true number killed each weekend.
One year ago...
McCarthy touts 'broken windows' crime-fighting strategy
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-03-11/news/chi-mccarthy-touts-broken-windows-crimefighting-strategy-20130311_1_public-urination-chicago-police-crime-fighting-strategy
March 11, 2013|By Rachael Levy and Jennifer Delgado | Tribune reporters
"[...]..."Fixing the little things prevents the bigger things," McCarthy said during a news conference at the Harrison district station. He has long been an advocate of the "broken windows" approach — the idea that eradicating public drunkenness and other signposts of community decay is crucial to making neighborhoods safer..."
Wikipedia says ..
"The broken windows theory is a criminological theory of the norm-setting and signalling effect of urban disorder and vandalism on additional crime and anti-social behavior. The theory states that maintaining and monitoring urban environments in a well-ordered condition may stop further vandalism and escalation into more serious crime."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_windows_theory
So how's that working out?
Take a look
https://twitter.com/Chicago_Tags
He said it not me
"... is crucial to making neighborhoods safer."
I am shocked and outraged.
"They charged the second guy with First Degree Murder, but the vehicular homicide doesn't appear in any of the weekend tallies over at the Tribune. Nor does the stabbing. So again, someone is playing games with the media, who is either too lazy to correct their own numbers in the face of obvious half-truths issued by the Department, or they're in on the game."
Anyone in Chicago wants to solve the crime problems, they must be honest. Honest with with themselves and with the facts. Until you face up to the facts, you will not be able to solve the problems.
What do you mean - stop counting?
START BEING ACCURATE!
This could be a new "Action" line in Las Vegas as to "How many Killed, How many Wounded Bets in Chicago".
There might be a lot of money lost on inaccurate counting. Better buy some $70,000,000 software program to keep track of the shootings and post them promptly because there is a lot of money riding on these numbers.
Sports betting? Too complex and unpredictable. Sometimes risky to the House.
Shootings betting? A great "action" because just when you think the Chicago score will be low, it blasts up clearing off everyone on the board, except the house of course.
Get those numbers right. We're boosting our tourism up based on you wrecking yours.
What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas.
What happens in Chicago, keeps everybody away - but betting on "the play".
At Northwestern Memorial this past Friday night, an X-Ray tech explained that my X-ray had been delayed by close to 9+ hours because he alone had just x-rayed 7 serious gunshot wound victims previous to X-raying me for non-related issue. Where were these Friday night/early Saturday shootings that were taken to NORTHWESTERN MEMORIAL reported in the media? I looked but did not see them. And there were obviously more than 7! That was just one X-Ray tech!
My Friday night Chicago Northwestern Memorial experience started around 5pm, and totaled 16 hours just to get a bed, basic x-ray, basic blood test and IV.
16 hours!! For an accident-related condition for which my doctor ordered me to go to this ER.
it was warm Friday, Chicago Northwestern Memorial ER beds were filled to capacity on both 1st & 2nd floor by 5pm Friday night, plus, their waiting room was completely packed with very sick and clearly suffering non-gang bangers!
This did not let up until around 5 am or later Saturday morning- at least 12 hours later!! Why was this so hush-hush in the media??
When ER manager was informed they would finally be on bypass just before midnight, meaning that no more ambulances would be allowed to come in with new patients, so that the ER could catch up their regular law-abiding really sick waiting room patients, that "Bypass" DID NOT happen. Private and city ambulances continued to roll in every few minutes, often 2 at one time!
And in the meantime, the innocent folks who'd been waiting 5, 6, 7+ hours JUST TO GET A BED IN THE ER kept getting pushed to the bottom of the list under shooting and stabbing "victims".
We're talking waiting room patients who'd been in car accidents, people puking their guts out from the flu, people crying and grimacing in so much pain, a guy who looked like a vet in excruciating pain with an appendix or gall bladder attack, a lady who looked like she might have chopped off or sliced through numerous fingers, people with possible fractures, a lady having seizures for 5 hours straight was completely ignored, spinal cord issues, lung issues, neurological issues- all sat for hours waiting. And during those hours, not one person's blood pressure was checked with the portable BP unit to see if they were about to keel over. And triage was ignoring very high Blood Pressures readings by not doing EKGs when they should have done so!.
So if you get really sick on a warm Friday night DO NOT GO TO NORTHWESTERN MEMORIAL ER.
STAY THE HECK AWAY FROM THE PAIN AND SUFFERING YOU WILL BE EXPECTED TO ENDURE!
You're honestly either better off at a hospital which doesn't prioritize gang-related trauma, so much so, that that is where most of the shooting vics in the city end up.
Yet that fact it's not publicized in the media. You hear about them going to smaller hospitals, but you don't seem to hear the majority of shooting/stabbings taking up all the beds at NWMH. Now why is this so hush-hush? And how could NWMH be number one in IL? For what? Gang-bangers?
But crime is down right Mayor Emmanuel? And Superintendent McCarthy?
Come on already! Get rid of this goof and get a fresh start! Experiment is over
Off topic but this needs to be addressed. The 3rd watch Lt in 025 has lost his mind. You start treating the officers like children like you have been what do you expect in return, surely not work. You have no personality and are a real stroke but we have worked for you. Now you get pissed over a couple of officers giving you some flack and you come down on the entire watch? You need some people skills for sure or maybe a change is good you've been here too long and need change but don't expect us to respect you when you talk to us the way you do. The commander is great and we want to work for him but your going to stop that from happening just watch
Rahm. Admit u made a mistake with McCarthy. Have u ever heard the phrase " Cut your loses"? U really don't have a choice at this point.
TIC TOC...
The media is in on the game, just like they are when it comes to Alfred E. Newman.
There is something much bigger lurking behind the scenes pulling the strings.
Why did the suntimes and tribune STOP using the word SHOT THEY have been reporting not anyone has been shot rather they now report anyone who has been injuried. NOW stop reporting anyone who has been dead rather report anyone who has "checked out"! the media is using the political correct word of injuried rather than "SHOT"!
Yet another reason to rely on SCC for our news reporting.
Is McCarthy going to blame this on Weis, too?
Bush did it
I went to legitimacy training recently (joke), and the only useful thing I left there with was this:
'we deal with 3-6% of the population' (the lawbreakers, the shitheads we see all the time).
The other 94-97% of the population never have dealings with the police.
I mention this because after so many years on the job I feel like the world is doomed and this is how the whole country is, and that there is no hope. But when you consider the above, it lightens your heart a little.
It's a big country out there, with better people and conditions. Remember that.
Anonymous said...
"They charged the second guy with First Degree Murder, but the vehicular homicide doesn't appear in any of the weekend tallies over at the Tribune. Nor does the stabbing. So again, someone is playing games with the media, who is either too lazy to correct their own numbers in the face of obvious half-truths issued by the Department, or they're in on the game."
Anyone in Chicago wants to solve the crime problems, they must be honest. Honest with with themselves and with the facts. Until you face up to the facts, you will not be able to solve the problems.
4/28/2014 01:47:00 AM
The fact is, this is a social and behavioral problem, not a crime problem but nobody has the guts to say it. People who live like savages, behave like savages. Anybody else notice the knee jerk legislation every time a small percentage of the population does something, WE ALL have to abide by a new rule? Cameras everywhere. Slowly but surely we are all losing our civil liberties because of a class of people who refuse to "air their dirty laundry" in public. Let me tell you, your laundry is STANKING, everybody can smell it and not talking about the behavior that is ruining it for the rest of us is getting to be bullshit. I'm tired of getting a rope tightened around my neck because of something someone else did.
FYI.... There's a twitter feed called "Chicago Scanner". Some person has taken it upon themselves to monitor radio traffic overnight for CPD and CFD and publish some of the more exciting transmissions on twitter. Doesn't seem to be anti-police, but just another reason to watch what you broadcast. People are listening.....
Anybody else notice Rahm's been missing since the article about the CNN b.s. 'documentary' came out?
So, what? If I get shot and killed on a weekday, it didn't happen/doesn't count? Miracle! What's with the weekend fascination. It's not like the ghetto thugs go to work on Monday and are less likely to kill each other. Give it a rest on the weekend murder watch.
The answer to all of this is MANDATORY conceal carry!
>>>We were told at a recent roll call that 35h St has stopped using/including Weekend shooting/homicide numbers in their stats if they happen after 8a.m. Sunday morning.<<<
Gangs will have to start punching a timeclock and schedule their shootings on an alternating basis.
OPEN SEASON will occur any time when the temprature reaches over 90 degrees during a FULL MOON or when the price of "H" reaches a low point.
The complete list of rules will be posted. Violators will get a cap busted in their ass.
Weekend Shitshow (Fri 12p – Mon 6a)
Shot & Killed: 5
Shot & Wounded: 39
Total Homicides: 8
April To Date
Shot & Killed: 29
Shot & Wounded: 209
Total Homicides: 33
Illustrating Chicago Crime, Murder and Mayhem at heyjackass.com
More math stuff? My head hurts.
Cmon CHUCK goudie!
instead of stuffing you face at high end joints on the 018th district do some investigating.
Cnn showed that the media is bought and paid for.
WELCOME TO CHI-RAQ.
You shouldn't put this on the blog but you're going to blame the lieutenant for the bs going on? 25 is a great place to work. He's always treated everyone fairly. Why mess that up? Talk to the angry little midget po who is a big asshole for challenging the boss in roll call because the little cry baby can never get to roll call on time and thinks he's being picked on because he was told to get there on time. He should have been knocked on his ass. Go to work, do your job and there won't be problems. How is that too much to ask?
>>>Anonymous said...
Rahm. Admit u made a mistake with McCarthy. Have u ever heard the phrase " Cut your loses"? U really don't have a choice at this point.
4/28/2014 02:54:00 AM<<<
McCarthy is doing just what Rahm wants him to do and that is be the HATCHETMAN. The citizens and the Department be damned as ffar as Rahm is concerned; just cut the costs in every way especially in manpower.
And we are letting them get away with this decimation.
If we wanted to do something about this we would publish a monthly or a quarterly department manpower audit and history.
Why doesn't FOP & PBPA do that?
All the people shot had one thing in common.
I didn't know any of them.
Why does SCC care if gangbangers get shot?
The carnage is an excuse to continue these stupid social programs and spend more money. It's only when the numbers become unacceptably high, that Tiny Dancer will have to do something. When that happens, will be to get the numbers down "just enough" to put everyone back to sleep. Then it will be back to graft as normal.
mcduffus is clueless rahmbo is idiot we have no contract i give two shits bout numbers, as for anonymous 4/28 02:54... 014 has similar problems with dumb airhead Lt's .....btween 1st and 3rd watches i dont know which ones worse! i have to agree with the treatment process..if im gona great treated like a high school kid then expect the same. mcdermott doesnt deserve any respect thats for damn sure, lemeka good idea on leaving the watch and contemplating retirement you also suck as a boss...014 is good district to work in but management fucks it all up!!
Not a cop, but I read this blog often to get the truth, so I'm grateful for it.
This is what I don't get: How is this guy was released? Tahari R. Wilson
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-two-weeks-after-murder-case-dismissed-south-side-man-goes-back-to-jail-20140426,0,3707708.story
The article says HE WAS RELEASED ON APRIL 11 FOR MURDER IN 2012!!!!
What gives? 2 years time for murder? Is that what a person's life is worth in this city, state, country?!!! I just can't comprehend this.
One of my suspicions is what the media and liberals are doing. They keep trumpeting - "Blacks are unfairly targeted because they are black."
I honestly think it's become JUST THE OPPOSITE. I starting to be believe now - blacks are given special consideration because they are black.
By the way, I'm not a racist. Just by broaching the topic, I think many will scream, "You're a racist dirt bag!" But that's not true.
While I'm at it, I'm sorry to say or own president, our leader that we're supposed to look up to is trying to capitalize on racism.
It's ironic, everything in this world is becoming topsy turvey. What is up is now down. What is right is now wrong. It's so screwed up.
My 90 year old grandpa, who I used to think was over the top when he'd say, "This country is changing right before our eyes - and it's not for the good." I'm starting to see he's right.
Speaking of "racism", this illustrates my point exactly
Statistics guy: It was found out that the majority of blacks in America listen to hip hop---
Overzealous guy: WTF YOU RACIST I HAVE A BLACK FRIEND THAT DOESN'T LISTEN TO HIP HOP
Statistics guy: But I said the majority, meaning not all of th---
Overzealous guy: YEAH WHATEVER HITLER
Found here: www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=racist
OT. Anyone seen that video on YouTube? His name is Simon Sinek. The lecture is called Why Leaders Eat Last. Check it out. Very interesting.
When and how long will it take to realize that the men on the streets and the units that work along side those,are vitally important to run this dept,raises and incentives are necessary to keep the cohesiveness and comraderies in place,even the NBA knows that along with the NFL,so why shouldn't CPD,the leaders and politicians get paid well and have power,the police are the same and they need incentive,ofcourse the number of police need to increase to do that and a good future contract would help....Rham are you listening!
Can Gulliford and the rest of these bosses find some time to approve some of these submitted awards. Geeze! We bust our ass working and the least they can do is approve them in a timely manner. Some of them were submitted last year and he hasn't even looked at them. Designate one of your Office flunkies to review and approve them between their "Office runs" and your Dry Cleaning pickups!
Hundreds of them have been stuck in the "waiting approval from Chief" status for months... We get shit raises and shittier benefits every year the least they can do is give us a "that a boy" every now and then.
It's not like it's costing them anything!
"Broken Windows" strategy not working? Maybe McCarthy needs to start picking up gum.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Off topic but this needs to be addressed. The 3rd watch Lt in 025 has lost his mind. You start treating the officers like children like you have been what do you expect in return, surely not work. You have no personality and are a real stroke but we have worked for you. Now you get pissed over a couple of officers giving you some flack and you come down on the entire watch? You need some people skills for sure or maybe a change is good you've been here too long and need change but don't expect us to respect you when you talk to us the way you do. The commander is great and we want to work for him but your going to stop that from happening just watch
4/28/2014 02:53:00 AM
NOT TRUE!!!
3rd watch assholes in 025 are well know everywhere as spoiled whiney children. They stepped over the line many times and should have been straightened out years ago.
The only thing Gary is right about is that the courts are not doing the job. Cpd arrest and the courts allow "let's make a deal" allowing offenders back out on the streets on triple secret probation.
Lt in 025 giving the troops a hard time? Last I checked the Lt's are a do nothing job now, read the order they really are useless now.
Let's call it what it is. Rahm is too ignorant to admit he made a mistake with McCarthy and until the south and west side aldermen call for his resignation, he's here to stay along with HIS failed strategies.
Nothing wrong with McCarthy , it's the gangs with no supervision or love from parents at home .
Does it really surprise anyone what the internet browser of choice is for Chicago Police Department? Also, what steps will the department's highly paid white shirts IT do to ensure the safety of department computers?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/technology/chi-microsoft-explorer-security-flaws-20140428,0,4797833.story
In order to take the pressure off the city they should keep a running toll of Jose Abreu's home runs and RBIs
Off topic but this needs to be addressed. The 3rd watch Lt in 025 has lost his mind. You start treating the officers like children like you have been what do you expect in return, surely not work. You have no personality and are a real stroke but we have worked for you. Now you get pissed over a couple of officers giving you some flack and you come down on the entire watch? You need some people skills for sure or maybe a change is good you've been here too long and need change but don't expect us to respect you when you talk to us the way you do. The commander is great and we want to work for him but your going to stop that from happening just watch
If what you say is true, how can the commander be great if the commander allows this to go on. Whats so great if the commander can't talk to the Lt and straighten him out.
Monday morning ALL sworn members, exempts included will be on 12 hour days starting Tuesday, 1st watch. All time off is cancelled including furloughs (If they get you on the phone).
One RDO is also cancelled and a 12hour day.
Narcotics and all C/D people will be in uniform. No EXCEPTIONS.
How long, the word is when it snows again as late of November.
People will be bused to foot patrol and their lunches will be provided.
If you got to use a bathroom, you better wear depends.
Tac units- you will report to a district, you vehicles will be moved to the district.
If you live in 016, know your petro bill will be going up if you are working 005,
Enjoy all the extra dollars in O.T. It will be like getting a
70 % raise.
Exempts will be retiring by big numbers when they do 6 days/12 hr days in a row, and not get paid for it.
The city also wants to hire 1000 or more this year.
Lot of programs Rahm wanted are now nixed. The biker lanes will have to wait a few years. The flower pots will be growing weeds this summer.
Lake shore drive ! Get ready to pay a toll to use it. Toll will be 6 bucks if you go all the way.
All house cats, get ready to work a foot post after your 8, and your rdo, 12 hours.
4/27/2014 09:15:00 PM
This doesn't make sense.
They can get more than enough people if they made VRI unlimited. I'm sure you can easily get 500+ officers working nightly. No reason to cancel anyone's RDO, deny off time/furlough.
I'm going with in on the game due to political pressure.
Fixing or thwarting the numbers is his name of the game.
Anonymous said...
Rahm. Admit u made a mistake with McCarthy. Have u ever heard the phrase " Cut your loses"? U really don't have a choice at this point.
Rahm will never admit to making a mistake. Not in his DNA. The mayor's office sets the tone, budget, and all major personal decisions for the police department. McCarthy is doing what he is paid to do. No more no less.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Off topic but this needs to be addressed. The 3rd watch Lt in 025 has lost his mind. You start treating the officers like children like you have been what do you expect in return, surely not work. You have no personality and are a real stroke but we have worked for you. Now you get pissed over a couple of officers giving you some flack and you come down on the entire watch? You need some people skills for sure or maybe a change is good you've been here too long and need change but don't expect us to respect you when you talk to us the way you do. The commander is great and we want to work for him but your going to stop that from happening just watch
If you guys think two things is a bad boss then obviously you've never worked for a bad boss before. The guy doesn't have the greatest personality in the world but he wouldn't hurt coppers. I've seen bosses go out of their way to jam guys up. 25 has been fortunate enough to have great bosses over the last decade. I guess expecting your officers to back each other up is asking too much. These spoiled brats on 3rd watch need an asshole like commander curtain back on the watch to know what a truly horrible boss is. Go work in another district other than 25. you'll realize how good you have it.
so we had 40 people shot in Chicago over the weekend. With the 40 plus how many during the week, we have to be averaging 60 people shot a week in Chicago. That's just insane and not only should McCarthy step down, so should his command staff.
Off topic but this needs to be addressed. The 3rd watch Lt in 025 has lost his mind. You start treating the officers like children like you have been what do you expect in return, surely not work. You have no personality and are a real stroke but we have worked for you. Now you get pissed over a couple of officers giving you some flack and you come down on the entire watch? You need some people skills for sure or maybe a change is good you've been here too long and need change but don't expect us to respect you when you talk to us the way you do. The commander is great and we want to work for him but your going to stop that from happening just watch
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It isn't funny when it bites you in the ass...the 25th district third watch being the biggest whiners and immature patrolmen on this dept. this is the same watch that prides itself tagging the mens locker room and bathroom with crap about other officers. Cowards...you got something to say...let your balls drop and say it in person. Same goes for those who talk crap over the radio. Now that you made your own bed ...sleep in it. K.M
SCC, thanks for the poster sharing the bad news about Northwestern ER. I remember years ago, many years, it was considered a top hospital. I've had similar experience's at other ER northside hospitals. For us older people who have to rely on Chicago ER's to save our life, if needed, is a very scary thought. This city is a hellhole, getting worse, never to change for the better.
-just a reader,not a police officer
Why count at all. Just say nothing happened at all, and all the liberals will believe it and eat it up
Joe Stein says: The early bird gets the worm, but the second rat gets the cheese. Now who's smart and who's stupid!
will the naacp and democratic party return contributions made by Donald sterling ? if they feel he is a racist all donations must be returned immediately
Gary only has 10 fingers and ten toes, so he wants to use Rahm's instead- that way he will be .5 less when counting!
incompetent or dishonest or both ?
Chicago is becoming the shame of the nation. Is there a major city that is MORE corrupt?
Isn't changing numbers considered falsifying an official report? I've met officers stripped in callback for falsifying reports. This department is unbelievable!!!!
I wish people would stop blaming McCarthy for the murder mess. The problem is a deep rooted gang issue that has been going on for years and is now out of control because the police are no longer permitted to police the animals. Technology and bleeding heart socialists have made it extremely difficult to police here in the city. The gangbangers and savage like behavior they exhibit is a direct result of the lack of respect they have for authority and the lack of consequence for their actions. No fear of breaking the law because they know they can sue the city for police bullshit or they will be out of county for overcrowding. It doesn't matter who sits in the sups chair until the police are permitted to police these degenerates the problem will go unresolved. The only way to win the war I these killing zones is for community member to take a stand and fight to take their neighborhood back. They need to stop blaming everyone else for their problems and start being accountable. Perhaps the government needs to step in and withhold free shit like housing food stands and etc. Until things change within these neighborhoods. The governments socialist value system has broken the system of assistance and now we are paying for it by generations of ghetto rat gangbanger families living off the dole. Cut the cord to the government money tree and things may slowly improve after 10 or 20 years. Over 17 years of police experience and things are getting worse instead of better. Have some courage and talk about the real issues. It is not just a black issue it is an issue of social status. Being poor pays in this city. I live check to check and work two or three jobs just to have a little slice if the pie. If I had shit to my name I could love in a town house downtown and eat and love for free off the G. The race card has been over played. It time to act what do you say me president. Put your people in check since they can't seem to do it themselves.
If you have a problem with the 3rd Watch Lt in 025, you need to have your head examined. He is an adult and does EXACTLY what a Supervisor should do and would also be the first person through the door with you. Your irresponsible, childish behavior is getting old and maybe try moving out of your Moms basement idiot.
FYI.... There's a twitter feed called "Chicago Scanner". Some person has taken it upon themselves to monitor radio traffic overnight for CPD and CFD and publish some of the more exciting transmissions on twitter. Doesn't seem to be anti-police, but just another reason to watch what you broadcast. People are listening.....
4/28/2014 06:35:00 AM
Basically any worth while reporter nowadays is tweeting up-to-the second CPD radio traffic.
It's not only here but all over the country.
I enjoy following them. None of them are anti-police.
14 year old girl shot and killed at 900 Garfield at 430 this afternoon. Garry has to be on his way out. Remember it's a cold rainy MONDAY afternoon. Change is coming to the superintendents office and it will be a M/1. RAHM has to try and ease the pressure in the African American community.
From now on, all they are going to count is snow tows.
See the Sunday article on the Crime in Wrigleyville and Boystown blog. Clearly, someone is "fudging" the numbers. Who - and why isn't the FBI asking questions.
Make that Saturday. Garbage In, Garbage Out article
If what you say is true, how can the commander be great if the commander allows this to go on. Whats so great if the commander can't talk to the Lt and straighten him out.
4/28/2014 11:13:00 AM
It's not the Lt. It is the whining crying, immature little children that work the 3rd Watch. A small handful of that watch act like spoiled 3 year olds. Hey kids, GROW UP. Better yet, go get another job. We are all sick of your crap!
Anonymous said...
I went to legitimacy training recently (joke), and the only useful thing I left there with was this:
'we deal with 3-6% of the population' (the lawbreakers, the shitheads we see all the time).
The other 94-97% of the population never have dealings with the police.
I mention this because after so many years on the job I feel like the world is doomed and this is how the whole country is, and that there is no hope. But when you consider the above, it lightens your heart a little.
It's a big country out there, with better people and conditions. Remember that.
4/28/2014 06:34:00 AM
You're spot on. I retired back in 05 and it took about 3 months to finally "deflate" and relax from the constant stressors of the job. Before retiring, on my days off or even while on vacation, I could relax a bit more but there was always a feeling of being on guard. After retirement you still have that distrust of strangers and never totally feel at ease. Part of the job I guess. You will never feel or think like a regular citizen after working as the police for a few years.
If what you say is true, how can the commander be great if the commander allows this to go on. Whats so great if the commander can't talk to the Lt and straighten him out.
Straighten what out? That the LT wants you to do your job? You can always bid out, so take advantage of that, or STFU.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04/28/emails-reportedly-show-close-coordination-between-cnn-team-emanuel-on/
Why fake the news when you can make the news!!
The CPD website use to post weekly stats, which ironically hasn't been updated since March, which happens to be the same week the Chicago Magazine article about the false stats. Here is the link: https://portal.chicagopolice.org/portal/page/portal/ClearPath/News/Crime%20Statistics
14 year old girl shot dead in her back on 900 block of Garfield blvd. guess she don't count in weekend totals! Because it happened on Monday night!
I like my BALLS.
Granny use to say "Jus cuz the cat had kittens in da oven don't make em biscuits". But she also use to say "I get a goddamned check from the government saying that I'm funk'in certified crazy."
9:37.....
Grow up.
Start worrying about your pension and insurance.
Well SUN actually starts the week on most calenders, so in their twisted minds, they are right. The count should actually stop at 0001Hrs SUN then.
No matter, the #'s will still pile up,and the bullshit spin Dr's will continue to ply their trade. Whenever it suits them.
Baghdad Bob.
"Baltimore is putting a lot of effort into replicating what we’re doing,” McCarthy told the paper.
Good luck, Baltimore!!!
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2014-03-19/news/bal-baltimore-police-look-to-chicago-for-crimefighting-tips-20140319_1_baltimore-police-police-commissioner-anthony-w-west-baltimore
The ghost of freak daddy is haunting 025.
>>>Anonymous said...
"Baltimore is putting a lot of effort into replicating what we’re doing,” McCarthy told the paper.
Good luck, Baltimore!!!
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2014-03-19/news/bal-baltimore-police-look-to-chicago-for-crimefighting-tips-20140319_1_baltimore-police-police-commissioner-anthony-w-west-baltimore
4/28/2014 09:05:00 PM<<<
Please, PLEASE send McCarthy to Baltimore.
While you are at it send Rahm too.
"Weekend" implies a "work week".
How do you account for a weekend with a population that does not have a work week, that the Democratic Great Society has created, that has no concept of a work ethic, the value of labor, who then goes to church on Sunday that praises God and the labor of the working man and the value of human life?
Forget weekends, one day is the same as the next.
That Lieutenant passed the test . Did your commander pass his sergeant , lieutenant test or is he one of cpd best brightest merit selected bosses .
End the gold braid pension now.
To the poster at 4:25 PM.
You're absolute right !!!We shouldn't blame the Supe . We should blame the pilgrims.
Off topic but this needs to be addressed. The 3rd watch Lt in 025 has lost his mind. You start treating the officers like children like you have been what do you expect in return, surely not work. You have no personality and are a real stroke but we have worked for you. Now you get pissed over a couple of officers giving you some flack and you come down on the entire watch? You need some people skills for sure or maybe a change is good you've been here too long and need change but don't expect us to respect you when you talk to us the way you do. The commander is great and we want to work for him but your going to stop that from happening just watch
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It isn't funny when it bites you in the ass...the 25th district third watch being the biggest whiners and immature patrolmen on this dept. this is the same watch that prides itself tagging the mens locker room and bathroom with crap about other officers. Cowards...you got something to say...let your balls drop and say it in person. Same goes for those who talk crap over the radio. Now that you made your own bed ...sleep in it. K.M
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I got dumped to 025 when the district first opened the doors.
I was there for a year and a half. I went around the clock, for you new kids, 1st, 3rd, and 2nd. When our watch worked the 3rd. watch which had steady 3rd. watch guys, the watch sucked.
It appears for all my years on the job, the 025 = 3rd. watch were all cry babies and beefers. I always hated to have anything to do with the 3rd watch people when I was a dick.
It was shit there when I retired a few years ago.
It appears when the department went to steady watches, 025 - 3rd watch just got worse and worse.
These guys should not stop every night after work and go home. The three "B's" get you sooner or later kiddies.
Potato Head to the rescue to save Chicago pensions
Just got my families vote
Just got from Indianapolis NRA Show Awesome Show!
It' was great to see all my NRA members enjoying
Their 2nd amendment right. My God bless us all for our freedom, which's not cheap! Thank God for our servicemen !
The brave souls, who have fought and will fight to keep us free!
wonder how death investigation s factor in this, maybe inspector general can check
OT: Your tax dollar at work:
"Even the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration got in on the action and requested 46,000 rounds. Why a weather service needs ammunition remains unclear."
Weather can be violent, I guess...
http://www.tpnn.com/2014/04/28/why-is-the-pentagon-destroying-1-billion-worth-of-ammunition/
rb
The funny thing about democrats is they cant fuck up all they want and no one will call them out just look at all the current administrations, local and federal. The minute accountability steps in, blame the republicans. Rham n mccarthy arr probably so happy right now that the spotlight is on the LA clippers and not the chicago violence.
14 year old girl shot and killed at 900 Garfield at 430 this afternoon. Garry has to be on his way out. Remember it's a cold rainy MONDAY afternoon. Change is coming to the superintendents office and it will be a M/1. RAHM has to try and ease the pressure in the African American community.
4/28/2014 06:03:00 PM
Not a fan of Gary, but how exactly do you prevent one school girl from shooting another classmate while walking home from school - regardless of the weather - short of having a crystal ball?
Im confused, did they get rid of VRI ?? Where the hell are all these extra officers? Are they doing anything out there or just sleeping and collecting an OT check? Maybe this needs to change if they are going to get paid all that money, they need to do some work and help out.
14 year old girl shot and killed at 900 Garfield at 430 this afternoon. Garry has to be on his way out. Remember it's a cold rainy MONDAY afternoon. Change is coming to the superintendents office and it will be a M/1. RAHM has to try and ease the pressure in the African American community.
4/28/2014 06:03:00 PM
Not a fan of Gary, but how exactly do you prevent one school girl from shooting another classmate while walking home from school - regardless of the weather - short of having a crystal ball?
Well, someone finally said it instead of blaming Garry. Its his and the mayors fault that some girl shot another girl over a boy. Yea and extra police would have stopped that. These killings have nothing to do with whos mayor, police supt and the shortage of police. If there were a few extra police on the strett, the shooter would wait until they drove past and then shot.
Look for blame somewhere else.
W/all these new Lts coming out we're bound to hear more stories of bosses that need mood stabilizers all the way up to the most powerful of psych meds. What's really funny is a lot of these Lts knew they were going to be Sgts, DTs, and Lts when they were in 8th grade.
Send the kid off to college, he fails out, and bang that sturdy net was there 2 protect em. U can't have decent self esteem if U'r life was planned out for as a successful one in a real career. What's crazy is they have their promotional parties as if such laborious work went into each merit promotion.
If this pertains to U, Boss, try and realize how lucky U R. I didn't put U in a headlock for four years in HS. Understand that intellectually U'r inferior not gifted. That's Y "The Old Boy" hooked U up cuz he had ZERO faith U'd make on U'r own.
>>>Anonymous said...
OT: Your tax dollar at work:
"Even the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration got in on the action and requested 46,000 rounds. Why a weather service needs ammunition remains unclear."
Weather can be violent, I guess..<<<
Only 46,000 rounds of ammunition.
There has to be N.O.A.A. facilities in every state of the union, plus places like Guam, and Puerto Rico. Each major facility probably has an armed guard service; so spread that out and that's not so much.
I just read the article in Chicago magazine . I can't say I'm surprised, but I'm mighty disgusted. Having homocide investigations dropped to undetermined death investigations is disrespectful to the police and families of the dead. All for cooking the numbers. As if anybody living in or around Chicago believes anything CPD feeds the press is accurate anyway. My condolences to the cops on the street, y'all have the hardest jobs ever. Go to your union meetings and muscle them to get the truth out!
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