Part Two of Chicago Crime Stat Coverup
Chicago Magazine has posted the second part of their series on how the Chicago Police Department manipulates statistics to make it appear that crime rates are falling faster than is actually possible.
Part one dealt with (mis)counting homicides.
Part two deals with lesser crimes - break-ins, car thefts, muggings, sexual assaults and such. The article cites numerous instances of "reclassification" by name, date and/or instance, mostly occurring in the 019 District. The article is precisely like part one, lengthy, detailed and damning. The amount of crime "washed and rinsed" is incredible.
Eli Silverman and John Eterno, authors of the 2012 book The Crime Numbers Game: Management by Manipulation, make a couple appearances in the article. If we recall correctly, Eterno was a Captain in the NYPD and part of the team that created CompStat. Silverman says, “It’s like they wrote the script here [in New York], and you guys [in Chicago] took it.” The article also cites Chicago's long history of falsifying crime stats, from the 1920's to the Crime Commission hearings of the late 1950's to 1982's Pam "not a troll" Zekman's report on "Killing Crime."
We can't even sample this article. As large as it is, it would be a disservice to the writers who have done an excellent job once again, compiling and dissecting the tidal wave of numbers coming out of 35th Street and City Hall that do nothing but distort and obscure reality. The math alone in this piece....tens of thousands of crimes wiped off the books....it's jaw dropping. Even we had a hard time believing the blatant lies being foisted on the citizens, and we've been receiving bits and pieces of it in our comments, e-mails and posting for almost nine years now.
Chicago has a crime problem. It was being reduced, maybe 2 and 3% a year for the past decade. Then economic realities came to the fore and hiring stopped, promotions froze, a new mayor came in and a reduction in force was inflicted upon the Department. It is now clear that numbers probably crept upward a bit, but all the "statistics" coming out the politicians were of "double-digit" reductions month after month after month. We joked about "owing crime to the future." This article shows it wasn't a joke at all, but a deliberate attempt to achieve a political end and innocent Chicagoans are paying a price.
Part one dealt with (mis)counting homicides.
Part two deals with lesser crimes - break-ins, car thefts, muggings, sexual assaults and such. The article cites numerous instances of "reclassification" by name, date and/or instance, mostly occurring in the 019 District. The article is precisely like part one, lengthy, detailed and damning. The amount of crime "washed and rinsed" is incredible.
Eli Silverman and John Eterno, authors of the 2012 book The Crime Numbers Game: Management by Manipulation, make a couple appearances in the article. If we recall correctly, Eterno was a Captain in the NYPD and part of the team that created CompStat. Silverman says, “It’s like they wrote the script here [in New York], and you guys [in Chicago] took it.” The article also cites Chicago's long history of falsifying crime stats, from the 1920's to the Crime Commission hearings of the late 1950's to 1982's Pam "not a troll" Zekman's report on "Killing Crime."
We can't even sample this article. As large as it is, it would be a disservice to the writers who have done an excellent job once again, compiling and dissecting the tidal wave of numbers coming out of 35th Street and City Hall that do nothing but distort and obscure reality. The math alone in this piece....tens of thousands of crimes wiped off the books....it's jaw dropping. Even we had a hard time believing the blatant lies being foisted on the citizens, and we've been receiving bits and pieces of it in our comments, e-mails and posting for almost nine years now.
Chicago has a crime problem. It was being reduced, maybe 2 and 3% a year for the past decade. Then economic realities came to the fore and hiring stopped, promotions froze, a new mayor came in and a reduction in force was inflicted upon the Department. It is now clear that numbers probably crept upward a bit, but all the "statistics" coming out the politicians were of "double-digit" reductions month after month after month. We joked about "owing crime to the future." This article shows it wasn't a joke at all, but a deliberate attempt to achieve a political end and innocent Chicagoans are paying a price.
Labels: crime, stats, un-fucking-fucking-believable
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
105 Comments:
SCC,
Your not gonna believe this but SWAT has been handed lists of Persons of Interest on the west and south side and we have been ordered to knock on the gang bangers door and basically tell him that we are concerned for his well being. I won't do it. It's a violation of the poor gang banger 's civil rights. All of SWAT has been told to patrol the ghetto. I wonder if the terrorists are going attack Englewood. No SWAT in the areas where tourists hang out. No take home cars, no response. Fuck these Sgt's on SWAT. This has to be the worst Supt in the history of CPD. These exempts are scared of losing their spots!!!
Voulgaris took a big risk being honest with residents. Hope he doesn't get launched now that what he said is in print.
Nice shout out to SCC.
How about for part three felony review? How can an arrest that meets all the criteria of a felony per ilcs be charged as a misdemeanor? stolen car oh sorry officer it had the keys in it charge him with a misdemeanor. Oh the offender stabbed the victim? oh she's not hurt that bad charge him with a misdemeanor. Felony review kills more crime than Cpd ever did.
I feel much safer knowing if I'm ever shot that it will count as a simple battery to please some asshole at 35th and Michigan. Can't wait to move.
And they are leaving this city and state in droves. So long and by by.
This country does not need police. Computer programs lower crime.
Perception in the new reality.
Rahm has poor ratings...this article along with multiple shootings and summer not even here,closing of schools the blacks hate him as do many whites.bye bye Rahm lol u stroke
I am truly embarrassed. What can be said of a command which cannot tell the truth? Like lying to your customers. This dept is unreal. No wonder why promotional lists are so screwed up and must be amended again and again. Family and friends cannot understand why I don’t talk about this department. I’m embarrassed to be associated with the disingenuous political agenda driven aspects of this organization. Gold stars get compensated well with six figure pension annuities for life so they follow orders to the letter from city hall or risk losing the power and their current bloated salaries. Do any of these people have a conscience or a sense of morality? I certainly respect the people who are on the streets taking so many types of risks doing actual police work and contributing to an orderly society.
Figures don't lie but liars re-figure
McCarthy gets the maximum four Pinocchios for his antics. Crime stats are adjusted to fit the narrative. What else is being manipulated? Personnel figures? The perception of an orderly city despite what we read, what we see and what we hear on the news? Oops, looks like the ComStat genie is out of the bottle.
Start the blame with terry Hillard. He boasted and loved NYC compstat and brought it to Chicago. So yes, NYPD, CPD literally stole and copied compstat from you.
If no crime was committed, then there is no criminal committing a crime. No need to spend money on trials, incarceration, parole.
And it is not like there is a real victim. Someone robbed, raped, assaulted, murdered, well they really do not exist. Just put a little ice on that, ignore the pain, you knew he was going to come to a bad end, insurance will cover the losses. How can there be a victim if there was no crime?
And the criminal will never commit another crime. He will never victimize someone else. Because he got a free pass this time, you know he will turn his life around and become a law-abiding citizen.
Question:
If a Lieutenant or another police officer covers up a murder, is he guilty of conspiracy for covering up the crime?
It has gotten so bad people are being shot in broad daylight. They have absolutely no fear of the police or courts. The criminals know full well what city hall is doing and they act accordingly. Our town we call home will never come back to what it was. When you can get out and as far away as you can.
Is a murder victims federal civil rights violated if the local police refuse to investigate their murder and actively cover it up?
In the words of a famous female career politician "What difference does it make?" Obama is still president. Rham is still mayor, and Chicago is still a hell hole that caters to welfare entitlement breeders. Be a use that's their job as long as they still want it.
The 019 district is up for grabs. The commander is in over his head. He needs to go elsewhere. He has the crooked eye sgt running the show. FYI sgt A.H. is changing his hours and has a team of 4 that does the same. they come in early morning for a cubs game. Then they stay late and watch the bars. He was bragging how he had 150 overtime hours last period
Brony says No such thing as Crime Just ask the PO crossing guard supervisors
Bye bye Garry!
Why isn't the rest of the media picking up this story?
WTF?
Please remember that these are not police officers that foisted this deception upon the people. We live here too. It is the politicians that must be made to pay the price. We include the Superintendent as a politician, of course.
Make them pay a price for spilling our blood. For every citizen that has been injured or killed the politicians must pay. For every day you could no longer feel safe in your neighborhood or you stayed home because downtown was now too dangerous, make them pay. For every festival or day at the beach your family couldn't enjoy, make them pay. For embracing every Pfleger, Jackson or parking meter company that came to town, make them pay.
It is time to clean house Chicago. Get rid of these lying, thieving politicians, all of them.
Very similar to the data manipulation in CPS which gives the appearance of great increases in "Freshman On Track" rate and attendance (while ACT scores remain constant or drop). If CPD is like CPS, this data manipulation also gives number-crunchers and university consultants great opportunities to line their pockets. And "leaders" get the opportunity to receive accolades.
I don't know if it's true, but the news last night said yesterday's shooting on the south side at Bank of America
is being investigated as an "Aggravated Assault."
isn't that a misdemeanor
looks more like an attempted murder to anyone with a brain.
Great, but will anyone that doesn't read Chicago magazine (quite a few) actually see this article? Don't bet on the MSM picking up on this story anytime soon. It just doesn't fit the present political agenda.
http://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2014/05/19/shot-far-westside-least-dead/9310055/
4 shootings is big news in Indy. In Chiraq it would be on page 3.
increase in the decrease shitcago values
I can't believe any of this Chicago Magazine story. It would be as odd as someone in roll call telling POs that catalytic converter thefts will be classified as misdemeanor thefts, even though replacements will typically be over the $500 threshold, or that 311 was advised to classify all phone thefts as misdemeanors, even though you'd be hard-pressed to get a replacement without insurance for less than $500.
Thank you again SSC for helping to raise the alarm about the manipulation of crime data in Chicago. You, others in the CPD and a few fearless journalists who have never given up on bringing this miscarriage of justice to light are my heroes. Maybe there is hope for this city after all.
---> 'And what about those easy-to-understand annual reports that the department had been issuing since 1965? McCarthy discontinued them. Collins says there’s no longer a need for them, given that “we’ve increased data available to the public and put it right on our website.” ' <---
Ah-ha! So this was McLiar's doing. I wondered what happened to the ones after 2010. Two weeks ago I was going through these -- starting with '65 -- and couldn't figure out what the delay was with issuing the ones from 2011 onward. Now it makes perfect sense -- that is, if you're trying to hide something.
The old ones were very, veeeery, informative. It was easy to track crime from ones own home PD District and/or Area -- I was looking at 009 & Area 3 mostly. They Showed the unvarnished truth how crime, especially violent crime, skyrocketed after 1965 (gee, now what happened in Wash DC in '65 & subsequent years in DC & the courts that could have influenced that? (but that's another issue in itself)).
Those new reports from CompStat that are posted are useless, you can't compare different categories, districts or areas with the old reports. It's like apples and oranges now. To me, they seem designed to be confusing. There's a lot of words in them and loads of pretty graphics, but really it's just superfluous bullshit and suspect numbers when you come down to it. As a 'Crime Report' they're a huge FAIL.
But that just may be their purpose. It's easy to say and 'prove' that "Crime Is Down" when you're the one defining what crime is.
SCC,
Your not gonna believe this but SWAT has been handed lists of Persons of Interest on the west and south side and we have been ordered to knock on the gang bangers door and basically tell him that we are concerned for his well being. I won't do it. It's a violation of the poor gang banger 's civil rights. All of SWAT has been told to patrol the ghetto. I wonder if the terrorists are going attack Englewood. No SWAT in the areas where tourists hang out. No take home cars, no response. Fuck these Sgt's on SWAT. This has to be the worst Supt in the history of CPD. These exempts are scared of losing their spots!!!
5/20/2014 12:10:00 AM
Poor you.
The example of the jogger who was sexually assaulted is the most powerful example in this story. No way they can spin that example to make themselves look good.
Your not gonna believe this but SWAT has been handed lists of Persons of Interest on the west and south side and we have been ordered to knock on the gang bangers door and basically tell him that we are concerned for his well being. I won't do it. It's a violation of the poor gang banger 's civil rights. All of SWAT has been told to patrol the ghetto. I wonder if the terrorists are going attack Englewood. No SWAT in the areas where tourists hang out. No take home cars, no response. Fuck these Sgt's on SWAT. This has to be the worst Supt in the history of CPD. These exempts are scared of losing their spots!!!
Its a violation of the poor gang bangers civil rights? I'm so glad you are concerned about the gang bangers civil rights, but only after you have to patrol the ghetto.
Patrol the ghetto? are the terrorist going to attack the ghetto. The last 10 or 12 terrorist attacks were where? Thats right there havent been any.
Dump Stasch, if he's not working with you(Eli), he's working against you. How has this guy been the Tact Lt. In 19/23 for so long.
Question:
If a Lieutenant or another police officer covers up a murder, is he guilty of conspiracy for covering up the crime?
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It all depends how the smoke and mirrors are angled.
~ Garry Mc-DRUNKO
Perjury.
Any boss or anyone who ever willfully 'killed crime' or changed the original ucr code should be criminally charged. They not only are cowards and scared to lose their spot but they are doing a great disservice to the citizens of this city. We must do our part as police officers and document every crime as it happens. Take the 5 extra minutes to scratch out that report and make those notifications. Viva la resistance!
And always remember the white shirts are not your friends.
To the SWAT guy who is to valuable to patrol the ghetto I have a few questions.
1. How many terrorist attacks have you responded to?
2. Yes or No; when driving around do you have a vehicle with lights and siren to respond to any emergencies?
3. Why exactly do you need a take home car?
4. If you're so tough will you disobey the order and continue to patrol the downtown area OR are you the one with no balls afraid to lose your spot?
Thank you for looking so cool in your military fatigues. I hope to be like you when I grow up.
West Side Supervisor
I am really surprised that Voulgaris ever rated a command. Maybe Richie admired someone who was his intellectual equal.
Civilian here.
Chicago Magazine does a great story and the fallout is......
(crickets)
There is no fallout. Where is the outrage from the Tribune and Sun-Times (other than Kass) editorial boards and columnists?
(more crickets)
Where are the major radio and TV stations?
(still more crickets)
Where is the federal government?
And where is the consensus candidate that will challenge and beat the Rahmfather?
rahmbelina and McJagoff will spew some word salad about how the two guys from Chgo Mag. really arent qualified to "interpret" the data correctly and that those CPD, retired or otherwise, who spoke on record were/are just disgruntled individuals. and its a sure thing that the remaining local media, that should be referred to collectively as PRAVDA, will more than likely go along.
We are not going to let the truth get in the way of the numbers we need.
SCC,
Your not gonna believe this but SWAT has been handed lists of Persons of Interest on the west and south side and we have been ordered to knock on the gang bangers door and basically tell him that we are concerned for his well being. I won't do it. It's a violation of the poor gang banger 's civil rights. All of SWAT has been told to patrol the ghetto. I wonder if the terrorists are going attack Englewood. No SWAT in the areas where tourists hang out. No take home cars, no response. Fuck these Sgt's on SWAT. This has to be the worst Supt in the history of CPD. These exempts are scared of losing their spots!!!
5/20/2014 12:10:00 AM
Now you're fighting terrorists? Delete Zero Dark Thirty from the DVR. Stop quoting Black Hawk Down. You're a flat foot, a Peeler, a Patrolman. Get a grip young man. Be glad you're not rolling around Englewood in a beat car. You are a Chicago Police Officer, nothing more.
P.S.
Glad to see you are worried about the civil rights of the people you encounter.
Hey SWAT guy take a ride down to your local recruiter and sign on the dotted line. They'll take you until your 40th birthday. Once they hear all about you ventilating tangos and making dynamic entry they'll fix you up with a boatload of ammunition and a target rich environment.
5/20/2014 12:10:00 AM
If SWAT officers are not given take home cars and then called for an emergency make sure you drive obeying all traffic laws. There was a swat officer who was responding to an emergency and he went through multiple red lights and got tickets. He had to pay those tickets. Then in another incident the goof got into an accident and said he was justified. Nope, he was listed as the at fault driver.
Why isn't the media picking up this story?
Because no one cares. It's Chicago. The President won't do anything because Rahm is his friend, the media won't do anything unless they are told what to do and they are to busy following stories of 80 year old racists. Move along nothing to see here. Karn Evil 9. It's nice to have a blog to vent but in the end as long as democrats run this city, county, state and country nothing will change for the better only the worse.
No SWAT in the areas where tourists hang out. No take home cars, no response. Fuck these Sgt's on SWAT. This has to be the worst Supt in the history of CPD. These exempts are scared of losing their spots!!!
5/20/2014 12:10:00 AM
Ill tell you what, I didn't have to spend $3K in extra gear, my Sgts are great, the WC is pretty cool. My days off don't get canceled, and my stare time doesn't change.
If you are sooo pissed off and disgruntled, come on back to a Beat Car!
"Oh, fuck that!" is your answer, right?
Well, you get what you deserve. You're going to keep getting fucked.
Its not just you in SWAT, its Gang Enforcement, Tact Teams, Narcotics, SAT teams and on and on...
The days of there being ANY sort of benefit to being in a "specialized unit" are GONE. They (the bosses) keep squeezing you, and squeezing you.
Hell, on a Beat Car, I pretty much dictate my own day, no dumb ass missions, no knocking on some gangbangers door for dumb shit... I handle my jobs. I make my arrests. I eat well. Im on afternoons, so Im getting paid to go to court.
Don't be afraid to go back to a beat car!
Brony says No such thing as Crime Just ask the PO crossing guard supervisors
Shut the Fuk up and stop your hate crusade!! Nobody cares
Fuck these Sgt's on SWAT. This has to be the worst Supt in the history of CPD. These exempts are scared of losing their spots!!!
5/20/2014 12:10:00 AM
It is not the sergeants or the exempts that are making these ridiculous mistakes. It is a superintendent that takes no advice from any member of this Department. He gets his running orders from the Mayor who also doesn't listen.
Think about that. This city is being run by people that have no experience in this city, NONE! They know politics, but they have no clue about running a business. What is a city but a big business. Is anyone surprised that things are a mess. Time for both to go.
"If a Lieutenant or another police officer covers up a murder, is he guilty of conspiracy for covering up the crime?"
Only if a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to see it.
The merge was the worst thing that
Ever happened to that place! That place is doomed.
The biggest detriment to law enforcement and public safety in Chicago is Felony Review.....
It exists to employ otherwise unemployable politically connected lawyers. They, in turn, are scared for thir jobs.
About 90 percent of the counties in Illinois have no such organization.
Did Dean Angelo agree to drop the Fop's lawsuit against Greg Bella? Its been three years and Bella still hasn't explained how a $200,000 check went out when it was only supposed to be for $60,000. Did this come up at the meeting today?
Anonymous said...
Start the blame with terry Hillard. He boasted and loved NYC compstat and brought it to Chicago. So yes, NYPD, CPD literally stole and copied compstat from you.
5/20/2014 01:49:00 AM
Start the blame with City Hall,then with their lap dog media.
24th district has a pretty good Commander who has completed his first year there. Commander Waldera has a pretty good handle on what needs to get done and has slowly infused changes in Supervision. There are still a few Sergeant spots that need to be tweaked, and maybe one Lt. spot on 3rd watch. Officers have responded to these changes with actually doing some good old fashioned police work. This just goes to show how good leadership can fix many wrongs.
Me thinks the Massage parlor story will overshadow this numerical masturbation story and you can thank your buddies for that...
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-cop-placed-on-leave-in-connection-with-assault-at-massage-parlor-20140520,0,3093224.story
Anonymous said...
"The 019 district is up for grabs. The commander is in over his head. He needs to go elsewhere. He has the crooked eye sgt running the show. FYI sgt A.H. is changing his hours and has a team of 4 that does the same. they come in early morning for a cubs game. Then they stay late and watch the bars. He was bragging how he had 150 overtime hours last period"
5/20/2014 03:28:00 AM
It doesn't matter who's sitting in the big chair in 019, it would still be a shit-show with Rahm & McFuckedThisDepartmentToAStandStill stealing every able body and sending it south and west while getting their much desired Police lay-off/reduction in force through attrition...
Somebody raised an interesting question recently... With all the noise about crime stats being cooked by this administration, it isn't a stretch that CPD manpower numbers have been manipulated as well?
When someone posts that CPD is multiple thousands of officers below it's mid to late 90's peak, (lots o' rapids, lots o' incident cars and primary beats on the day watches were 10-4 units, not this 10-99 unit being forced to roll to a bad job and "holler if you need anything" bullshit that's common practice nowadays) there are a LOT of immediate counter-posts yelling for the poster to STFU about manpower?
"Shut up about manpower! We're "fully staffed!"
Slippery syntax and semantics?
We will take having "plenty of help" (like 1985-2000) over "STFU about manpower, we're fully staffed... CRYSTAL/CLEAR says so and FOP says x number of duty availability checks were cut last quarter!"
Take into consideration that every readily available source of CPD manpower count has been completely compromised/tainted by City Hall to keep the tax payers from openly rebelling and flinging every political ass through the highest windows at City Hall...
Heh... They called it "Definestration" during the Middle Ages. Execution of corrupt elected officials by the citizenry by virtue of... You guessed it. Flinging that rotten ass through the highest available pane of glass.
They even dug up fuckers who thought they would cheat justice through death...
Nope...
>Conclusion of The reading of formal charges for outrages against the public... <
FLING!
KA-RAASH! -Tinkle!
THUD!
Cue: King The Ghetto Wolf and some motley urban rib dogs...
Anonymous said...
Any boss or anyone who ever willfully 'killed crime' or changed the original ucr code should be criminally charged. They not only are cowards and scared to lose their spot but they are doing a great disservice to the citizens of this city. We must do our part as police officers and document every crime as it happens. Take the 5 extra minutes to scratch out that report and make those notifications. Viva la resistance!
And always remember the white shirts are not your friends.
5/20/2014 10:23:00 AM
Is there a certain Dep. Chief in the Detective Bureau who should be very nervous? TR will take the fall if this gets any deeper. Was it worth it?
West Sde Supervisor, you miss the point, but then you are only a West Side Supervisor.
And where is the consensus candidate that will challenge and beat the Rahmfather?
5/20/2014 11:06:00 AM
I agree with everything in your post--but what's the alternative? Preckwinkle?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
No SWAT in the areas where tourists hang out. No take home cars, no response. Fuck these Sgt's on SWAT. This has to be the worst Supt in the history of CPD. These exempts are scared of losing their spots!!!
5/20/2014 12:10:00 AM
1) Never forget you are ONE phone call away from being back in a beat car.
2) No take-home car? Get over it or leave the unit. A lot of people lost take-home cars.
3) You now have to knock on gang-banger's doors? Area North det's have to debrief EVERY SINGLE arrest from Fri/Sat in 011 and 025 (maybe 1 more), no matter what they're charged with. You think we like it? If we've got to do shit, so do you.
Use your head. Make your 'visits' as unproductive as possible.
Debriefings? I tell each arrestee there is a new dept. policy where I have to ask them if they want to tell me about any murders, shootings, etc., etc. You know a policy sucks when the bad guys look at you like you're insane. Mostly they just laugh.
Think outside the box. Make the new policies failures....for instance, det's no longer have to do gun debriefings....between us not giving a shit about having to ask assinine questions that we already know the answers to, to the ATF not giving a shit, voila! No more gun debriefings.
5/20/2014 12:10:00 AM
If SWAT officers are not given take home cars and then called for an emergency make sure you drive obeying all traffic laws. There was a swat officer who was responding to an emergency and he went through multiple red lights and got tickets. He had to pay those tickets. Then in another incident the goof got into an accident and said he was justified. Nope, he was listed as the at fault driver.
5/20/2014 01:18:00 PM
Hey SWAT handjob, answer me these questions........
Did you spend 3 grand on equipment for SWAT? Yes
Did the dept issue you shitty equipment? Yes
Do you get D2 pay? NO
Do they cancel your days off? Yes
Do you get a take home car? NO
Do you have to use your own personal family car to travel to training all over the State? YES
Do you have to be on call and respond at all different hours? Yes
Do you have to be on call and not get paid for it? YES
Do the Sgt's and Lt suck? Big fucking yes.
Wow!! You guys really have a screw lose. What's the reward? Nothing! That's why I left SWAT. This dept sucks and I'm not giving them more. Wake the fuck up and leave.
The rats are gonna be out in droves with this warm weather! I'm tellin ya. If it's not bolted down, they're gonna steal it.
the Crime Rate only goes down because the population of Chicago Goes down. Proportionately however, Crim is going up in Chicago, more crime, but less population. Even with lots of people leaving, the outlook is poor.
Anonymous said...
I am truly embarrassed. What can be said of a command which cannot tell the truth? Like lying to your customers. This dept is unreal. No wonder why promotional lists are so screwed up and must be amended again and again. Family and friends cannot understand why I don’t talk about this department. I’m embarrassed to be associated with the disingenuous political agenda driven aspects of this organization. Gold stars get compensated well with six figure pension annuities for life so they follow orders to the letter from city hall or risk losing the power and their current bloated salaries. Do any of these people have a conscience or a sense of morality? I certainly respect the people who are on the streets taking so many types of risks doing actual police work and contributing to an orderly society.
5/20/2014 01:08:00 AM
They're paid well so they will keep their mouths shut, and so they can kick back annually to the Mayor and the Democrat Party. It's a clout-Thug Street Tax, all done under the table. Was told this decades ago by a Deputy ready to retire. Back then It was $10k to the Democrat Party, and $10k right to Daley, in order to keep the Gold Star. The Deputy was straight-up, wasn't lying.
District Tac Units used to handle Swat Situations decades ago. They were the real deal. If you couldn't handle this stuff back then, you simply didn't work Tact. HBT was a bunch of Drunken Do-Nothins. District Commanders didn't even want them in their Districts under ANY circumstances. They trusted and relied on their Tact Boys, who had card-blanche to take charge and handle serious situations, which they did quite efficiently, the vast majority of the time.
You've got to be kidding me; the scumocrats in city hall are 'cooking the books!?!'
Of course McStupid is concerned for the criminal element, who do you think the democratic base voters in this city/county/state are?
If you are sooo pissed off and disgruntled, come on back to a Beat Car!
"Oh, fuck that!" is your answer, right? (HaHaHaaaa-THAT LINE CRACKED ME UP-Thanks!!)
Well, you get what you deserve. You're going to keep getting fucked.
Its not just you in SWAT, its Gang Enforcement, Tact Teams, Narcotics, SAT teams and on and on...
The days of there being ANY sort of benefit to being in a "specialized unit" are GONE. They (the bosses) keep squeezing you, and squeezing you.
Hell, on a Beat Car, I pretty much dictate my own day, no dumb ass missions, no knocking on some gangbangers door for dumb shit... I handle my jobs. I make my arrests. I eat well. Im on afternoons, so Im getting paid to go to court.
Don't be afraid to go back to a beat car!
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Someone who makes sense-good job! Remember too, you know what your wardrobe for tomorrow is gonna be!
What about the poor guy who just wanted a simple handjob? :)
FYI South Siders:
Shots fired at and by the EPPD Police 97th & California at about 0130Hrs.
3 in custody.Copper OK.1 on the run.
Just saw that the City is proposing to put the " George Lucas Star Wars Museum" in the Soldier Field parking lot .First of all what the hell does Chicago have to do with either George Lucas or Star Wars? Second of all it's already a parking and traffic nightmare in that area, even on a good day. Here's an idea put it in Hollywood ,"The Land of Make Believe" next to the Obama "President of Make Believe" President Museum.
Are there any real journalists in print or on TV in Chicago besides the guy from the Chicago Reader who writes about TIF bullshit? Between him and Peter Nickeas from the Tribune, those are the only two solid journalists I know of...
It is not the sergeants or the exempts that are making these ridiculous mistakes. It is a superintendent that takes no advice from any member of this Department. He gets his running orders from the Mayor who also doesn't listen.
Go ahead and blame it on McCarthy. Its all his fault. Why would this guy not listen to his command staff when he had Cuello as one on the top three and has plenty of district commanders who can advise his on how to run the department. I can think of a few, Barbara West, Flores, Trahanas The list goes on.
SCC,
Your not gonna believe this but SWAT has been handed lists of Persons of Interest on the west and south side and we have been ordered to knock on the gang bangers door and basically tell him that we are concerned for his well being. I won't do it. It's a violation of the poor gang banger 's civil rights. All of SWAT has been told to patrol the ghetto. I wonder if the terrorists are going attack Englewood. No SWAT in the areas where tourists hang out. No take home cars, no response. Fuck these Sgt's on SWAT. This has to be the worst Supt in the history of CPD. These exempts are scared of losing their spots!!!
5/20/2014 12:10:00 AM
Trust me, if terrorist were going to attack Englewood, I'd hope our government would have let it happen by now. Simple letter to all 116 decent folks living there lstting them know to not be in the neighborhood at a certain time and BOOM! Chicago's murder rate sliced in half. Neither would still have anything to do with Gmac, his strategies or the weather though.
I hope Chicago Magazine will next look in to vote tabulating.
My intuition tells me they under report votes that are not for Machine candidates.
You think your boss is bad? Come to 025 and work for that asshole SM!!
I don't know what it's going to take to wake us up, but it better happen before we lose multiple people. If you cut off the revenue stream to this weasel prick,it would get his attention. The thin ice we skate on everyday will eventually break and God help us when it does. PLEASE stand up to this Creep, he and his ilk HATE Law and Order.
"Pbr Streetgang-------Pbr Streegang--This Is Almighty--Do You Read Me"?
"The Horror, The Horror"
"Debriefings? I tell each arrestee there is a new dept. policy where I have to ask them if they want to tell me about any murders, shootings, etc, etc." - 5:42 PM
Not so quickly dismissive, my brother.
You'd be amazed at the number of times I gave a burglar, auto thief, junkie, et al. a play with the SAO or even a pass which ultimately resulted in the clearance of an unsolved homicide. It was part of my routine modus operandi. Trust me. Don't underestimate it.
Clearing a cold case murder can be the most fun you can have with your clothes on.
He grabbed my crotch, I know he was going to rape me maybe even shoot me. This should have been reclassified. I know that Cook County State’s Attorney will prosecute this as a sex crime. PLEASE KEEP US POSTED. The other crime cited: Those three guys in the masks were going to do something bad to me, I don’t care that they ran out after they saw me. The Chicago Police should have done something more with their report. When they catch those guys, I know the law and the State’s Attorney’s will put them away for BURGLARY or worse. It is up to the Courts (Judges, State’s Attorney, Defense Lawyers and Jury) to make the final decision. FOLLOW THE CASES ALL THE WAY THOUGH THE COURT SYSTEM.
The author of the article is just trying to stir the pot. The Real Police and the citizens who count on them know the real truth. Just ask them.
24th district has a pretty good Commander who has completed his first year there. Commander Waldera has a pretty good handle on what needs to get done and has slowly infused changes in Supervision. There are still a few Sergeant spots that need to be tweaked, and maybe one Lt. spot on 3rd watch. Officers have responded to these changes with actually doing some good old fashioned police work. This just goes to show how good leadership can fix many wrongs
Signed,
Mrs W.
District Tac Units used to handle Swat Situations decades ago. They were the real deal. If you couldn't handle this stuff back then, you simply didn't work Tact. HBT was a bunch of Drunken Do-Nothins. District Commanders didn't even want them in their Districts under ANY circumstances. They trusted and relied on their Tact Boys, who had card-blanche to take charge and handle serious situations, which they did quite efficiently, the vast majority of the time.
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Tac is now reverse seniority
There could a fourth one after the one suggested about felony review to include how the inept bosses or the city is short changing and killing units by attrition, e.g. crime lab techs, watch commanders, etc just to save money.
A good place to start would be the recent loss of our department's bomb squad explosive range facilities. The port authority decided, without warning, to just stop allowing them access to the land tat they've been using, so now they are scambling to find a suitable location that meets ATF, EPA requirements.
I just worked CTA with one of those guys and after hearing the stuff they did down there, this news puts us all in danger. Worse yet is that they'll probably have to use the vendor program to find a spot so they may be up and running in 2020.
Got a good Voulgaris story.
After Weiss got in and dumped bosses including Voulgaris to his career rank, Weiss shows up at a shooting where Voulgaris is on scene taking care of business. Weiss tells Peterson that Voulgaris is sharp and should be an exempt.
Peterson tells Weiss he was!
i had two crack houses move in across the street from me, with the normal lifestyle of people knocking at my door at all hours, begging for money (to buy drugs), prostitutes plying their trade all around the houses at all hours of the day, drive by shootings, drug dealing out front, etc. normal life in america i guess.
called dispatcher one of many times to say they're dealing.
she asked how i know.
said she could come and sit on my couch and watch too.
transferred to an 'investigator' and told him what's going on. he said can't get into apt building due to it being security locked.
took his number and told him i'd call him back in 10. went across the street and when a resident walked in, i walked in behind her. walked to the back of the building and stuck, opened the 'emergency door', stuck some tape on the latch and closed the door.
called 'investigator' back and told him he can send over some of his boys and just walk in the back door as it's not locked. he was surprised and declined.
took 6 months of above lifestyle before a raid was done on both houses. asked a cop one day there why every morning from 5am on the city can cruise up and down the street giving put parking tickets, yet take 6 months to raid known crack houses.
"there are a lot of crack houses here" was his honest answer.
i "voted with my feet" and moved out of the city and to a small town in a rural area. more people are doing that.
nothing new here, just better press, surprisingly. "change" has been happening for a while and will continue.......
The city is all but gone. Politicians and religious leaders have accepted and embraced a disease known as this thug culture. America's most threatening terrorists are just outside your front doors. A civil war will be upon this country soon and will be good vs evil.
"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
- John Adams
So what.
They're going to re-elect Emanuel regardless.
"Why isn't the rest of the media picking up this story?"
they've not been giving permission by Rahm.
The true "Chicago Code"--It's not about how it IS but rather it's about how it APPEARS.
Here's an idea, how about a Pension Solidarity Pride March scheduled on the day of The Pride March. The sight of our Downtown encircled by the Brothers and Sisters of all of our UNIONS united as one to address the Despot of a Mayor we are cursed with.
Three black guys (wait can I mention race) attempted to mug me in front of my apartment at Sheffield and Clybourn 3 years ago. I fought them off, the police came, no report ever issued. So statistically, nothing happened that june night when I was fighting for my life in front of my home at 9pm. Shitago for sure.
Anonymous said...
Just saw that the City is proposing to put the " George Lucas Star Wars Museum" in the Soldier Field parking lot .First of all what the hell does Chicago have to do with either George Lucas or Star Wars? Second of all it's already a parking and traffic nightmare in that area, even on a good day. Here's an idea put it in Hollywood ,"The Land of Make Believe" next to the Obama "President of Make Believe" President Museum.
5/20/2014 07:24:00 PM
They can put that Star Wars Museum right in the two garbage cans located in the south end of the Soldier Field lot for all I care.
Oh, wait... how much has Lucas donated to the Obama Campaign? Clinton Campaign? How much cash is he tossing at the Emanuals?
Remember, his wedding was at Promontory Point, complete with a huge CPD contingent for "protection".
Wait! So you tellin me everything aint on the up & up?
Just curious, when will the lack of parenting and discipline be called out in certain communities as a significant contributor to future crime? So much of the focus is on the current crime levels. What about in 20 years? If we don't change anything "upstream" so to speak, then how the eff can we realistically expect any downstream (future) change? Answer: we can't. It's a continuous pipeline of crime and waste. Until that changes, well, good luck to all. Thanks for all you do! Chicago Media? Want to maybe cover the WHOLE story when it comes to crime? Why are these common themes and backgrounds (no family structure, no discipline, etc...) always glossed over? What are you afraid of?
Civilian post
5/20/2014 10:39:00 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Here's an idea, how about a Pension Solidarity Pride March scheduled on the day of The Pride March. The sight of our Downtown encircled by the Brothers and Sisters of all of our UNIONS united as one to address the Despot of a Mayor we are cursed with.
5/20/2014 11:38:00 PM
If you're unaware of it (maybe you drive a desk?), all the police are deployed to the Pride parade, with days off canceled and all kinds of rescheduling to make that happen. Really? You want to schedule a pension rally for a day NO police can attend?
The biggest crime killer is felony review. Let me explain (so citizens and journalists can understand the process). There are two types of arrests; misdemeanors and felonies. A misdemeanor is a crime like being slapped in the face, or having your car window broken. A felony is a serious offense like being stabbed, getting shot, murder, having your car stolen, etc...
When we make a felony arrest. We must contact the state's attorney office and tell them the facts of what happened. About 95% of the time the felony charge is denied and downgraded to a misdemeanor. In the end decent men and women are victimized by the bad guy and then they are victimized again by the politicians. How about we send bad people who prey on good people to fucking jail? How about we have standards in our society and when someone decides to break them they pay a penalty?
I feel very bad for people who are victim's of crime. One such was a cab driver who was hit in the head with a numchuck. The man was knocked out and bleeding severely. I saw him again and he told me he is getting better but he continues to have awful headaches and vertigo as a result of his attack. The state's attorney denied felony charges and down graded it to a simple battery misdemeanor charge.
another thing.....
makes one wonder how felonies that have been reduced to misdemeanors are classified. ok, don't have to wonder.
know of instances where illegals did felonies, but were charged with misdemeanors so ice (immigration) didn't have to be called. then because it's just a misdemeanor, let go because, well, it's just a misdemeanor and the jails are so full anyway.
good thing there are so few illegals in this former nation.
Notice how the administration has stopped posting con stat minutes on the dept. website? They were always good for a laugh, even the edited down version had some of the dumbest comments. (Can't let the public know what's happening.)
Looney Looney Looney!!!! Micromanages every report from callback.
"I'm Shocked,Shocked to hear there is Gambling, going on in Rick's Cafe"
SCC called it right-on a long time ago!
G-Mac's history in NYC & NJ has come to Chicago to destroy any credibility...and, remember, furnishing false numbers to the FBI is a FEDERAL CRIME, G-Mac!
CompStat Defined
if they are to publish a factual report of this type, they need to name names. Saying the Chicago Police Dept is altering data makes it sound like the police are doing it and we all know the exact opposite is true.
SCC called it right-on a long time ago!
G-Mac's history in NYC & NJ has come to Chicago to destroy any credibility...and, remember, furnishing false numbers to the FBI is a FEDERAL CRIME, G-Mac!
Where have you been hiding and how naive can you be? The CPD has been cooking the books for at least 50 years McCarthy did invent this, been going on thru the last 6 or 7 supts I worked for.
Why do you think the started the uniform FBI reporting, because the police departments lie. Grow up and smell the coffee.
lying, deception, and gross misrepresentation by government entities is nothing new.
it has been going on since someone formed the first government.
Wgn morning news has one of the authors talking about this.
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