Term Limits versus Money
Madigan had his own attorney file a suit to stop a referendum on term-limits from appearing on the ballot. God forbid that Illinois voters actually have a voice in ending the ingrained corruption of this cesspool.
Now comes word that in case the lawsuit fails, Madigan is going to bump the term-limit referendum with a blatant play that flies in the face of economic realities:
Now comes word that in case the lawsuit fails, Madigan is going to bump the term-limit referendum with a blatant play that flies in the face of economic realities:
- House Speaker Michael Madigan has teed up a proposal that would put on the November ballot an advisory referendum that would ask voters whether the state’s minimum wage should be increased to $10 an hour by Jan. 1, a move that could help drive Democratic voters to the polls.
Both Gov. Pat Quinn and President Barack Obama have called for increases in the minimum wage. It’s an issue that provides a stark contrast for a re-election-seeking Quinn and other Democrats this fall as they get behind helping low-income workers while Republican Party standard-bearer, multimillionaire Bruce Rauner, has stumbled on the topic.
A big vote in favor of the increasing the state’s current $8.25-an-hour rate also could stiffen the backbones of lawmakers who fear business opponents who argue the price tag is too high.
Madigan's purpose here is two fold - get the "low information" voters to the polls who don't understand Economics 101 and save the jobs of career politicians by bumping a referendum that has a better than average chance of passing. The fact that it would further damage the Illinois economy by jacking up prices across the board and driving out thousands more jobs doesn't seem to concern him in the least.
Labels: money questions
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
53 Comments:
Madigan is a crafty little Devil. Don't look for a term limit measure to pass. If we had a two term limit in this state for ALL politicians we wouldn't have 90% of the corruption we have today. No one should serve more than two terms.
A carrot on a stick will bring the democrats out to vote.
Little wonder their symbol is the donkey.
rb
He is right. It is very very important that NO republicans get elected in Illinois. Only democrats can be depended upon to do the right thing and pass the right laws. Once you get a good democrat in office, it is crucial that you keep him there for as long as possible. Decades is best.
Never trust a republican, they are too radical and have strange ideas about taxes and governing.
My mother taught me to never wish ill will on anyone. But in the case of Madigan. Im sorry Mom. This weasel is the root of all that is wrong in this state.
Term limits? What do we need term limits for?
• Of the Fifty, Illinoisans Have Least Trust in the State Government
http://www.gallup.com/poll/168251/illinois-residents-least-trusting-state-government.aspx
• Poll: Even People in Illinois Say Illinois Worst State to Live In
http://www.publiusforum.com/2014/04/25/poll-even-people-illinois-say-illinois-worst-state-live/
• Illinois has the most underfunded pensions in the country and faces a deficit growth of $17 million per day.
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/breakthrough-illinois-96b-pension-crisis
• The state also has the worst funded teachers pensions in the country.
• Illinois was identified as one of the worst states in the union for its oppressive, jobs-killing lawsuit climate
http://www.legalreformnow.com/email/il.html
• Illinois had more home foreclosures than almost every other state.
http://www.prairiestatereport.us/2013/02/11/illinois-is-tops-again-in-foreclosures-fleeing-citizens/
• Illinois ranks as the 49th worst debtor state in the nation.
http://www.prairiestatereport.us/2012/01/09/another-win-for-illinois-now-worst-debtor-state/
• Illinois was ranked the 48th worst state for business.
http://www.prairiestatereport.us/2012/05/04/illinois-ranks-among-worst-five-states-for-business/
• Illinois ranked 48th for unemployment making it among the worst five states for joblessness.
http://www.ncsl.org/issues-research/labor/state-unemployment-update.aspx
• Its government also has one of the worst rankings for state transparency and accountability in the nation, too.
http://www.publiusforum.com/2011/08/31/illinois-ranks-bottom-of-states-with-worst-government-unions-accountability/
• As to big city stats, Chicago tops the nation with the highest unemployment rate.
http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20130530/EMPLOYMENT/130529791/chicago-beats-l-a-for-major-metro-unemployment
• Illinois has the worst credit rating
http://illinoispolicy.org/blog/blog.asp?ArticleSource=5987
• Illinois Tops Nation in Growth of Food Stamp Recipients
http://www.prairiestatereport.us/2013/06/03/illinois-tops-nation-in-growth-of-food-stamp-recipients/
• Mercatus: Illinois ranks at the bottom of the most free states
http://www.prairiestatereport.us/2013/06/06/mercatus-illinois-ranks-in-bottom-among-the-least-free-states-in-the-nation/
• Illinois Ranks as One of Worst States for Losing Citizens
http://www.publiusforum.com/2014/01/22/illinois-ranks-one-worst-states-losing-citizens/
per http://www.publiusforum.com/2014/05/15/bankrupt-illinois-spent-12-million-medicaid-dead-people/
rb
No shit, all is lost. Does anyone think Mike, his little girl, 9.5, and potatohead are going anywhere soon? That prick is filing a lawsuit to keep a referendum off the ballot? Something the citizens would prefer but might limit these lazy, corrupt, thieves, to less then 40 years in office.
Pander, freebies, pander, save our ass, pander, line our pockets, pander, etc, etc, etc. A handful of assholes can make millions miserable with only one thing in mind. Me.
We all like to vent but this is really beyond the pale. I guess I continued to be naïve enough to believe the citizens really did have some rights. But it is crystal clear that regardless of what is the right thing to do in Illinois the few will continue to dictate and legislate only what is in their best interest.
Nothing will change this. Vote them out? Yea right. That vortex you see getting larger and larger is Illinois going down the drain. It could be fixed. Look 90 miles north.
All Madigans = Scumbags! Vote them all out of offices now!!!!!
The poor have been voting for democrats for 50 years. They're still poor.
I hate to say it, but term limits may be bad for Mike Madigan but that doesn't mean they're good for Illinois.
Term limits will ensure that only well financed, faceless stooges are elected.
Rauner, Ken Griffin and the Pritzkers will send you a different toadie every 8 years who is only loyal to them.
Think about it. The stooge needs corporate money to get elected to his two terms and he needs a job after it's over. If he bucks the system, he'll be black-balled for life. If he follows orders, he can look forward to a reward in the private sector from his masters.
Don't fall for this one.
His plan will work. Dumb makes dumber.
What we need to do is to get a bunch of republicans to move to Madigans district and vote the jerk out. Also, keep putting term limits on ballots until it passes.
I live in Schaumburg and there was a group getting signatures for term limits and the guy had a hard time getting anyone to sign the petition except me. He couldn't believe how disinterested Schaumburg was, but it's now the typical uniformed uncaring suburb that tends to vote Democrat.
How it works.
You raise the min wage and then when inflation soars you under report the inflation and keep the difference.
By under reporting inflation all those entitlement programs like social security for example get shafted.
Union contracts with annual wage and pension increases tied to CPI get shafted too.
Inflation goes up by let's say ten percent and you put out a report that says inflation had only increased by 5%. Your tax revenue income increases and the political apparatus gets to keep the difference.
He is slick. Just like rahm putting bullshit referendum questions on the last ballots about ammo clips etc... So a referendum for an elected school board could not be placed there! People are their and our own worst enemy!
Just keep playing their silly games as we all get fucked...
Holy shit, is Illinois corrupt! I didn't realize it was so corrupt until I moved to another state. How is any decent person with integrity able to live in that cesspool?
Term limits are the only hope of breaking the patronage stranglehold - from the state down to the alderman level. Of course they're going to fight it, then retire to enjoy their pensions when there's nothing left.
The Titanic is sinking and Madigan is still shaking down passengers for jewelry.
The Madigan-Cullerton-Quinn death spiral continues.
Madigan is the biggest crook in Illinois....of course he's going to fight to stay in office and keep robbing us blind...his pension would be a pay cut....and let me guess what Democratic voters are going to be running to the polls...he'll probably charter buses or hire limos to get them out to vote....
Can you imagine if the FBI had the stones to go after Madigan and see the dirty deals he's made over the years? That guy is the single biggest cancer in the state.
When I get elected this November to the 19th ward State Rep position, I will as many times as possible introduce the 2 term limit and attempt to get it passed. I am also tired of life long elected officials. Even if it don't pass I will not serve more than two terms, that is how much I believe in term limits.
Joseph Bembynista
Rauner should just lie and say he will raise it to $12./ hr.
Arrest Madigan for gross idiocy, and lock him up in the first dist. lockup.
You can't beat Madigan in his district but you can beat him in every other district if you stop whining and get out and vote and bring a neighbor under each arm!
It doesn't matter what type of goof is running against the Democrat,vote for them. break the cycle just once and the machine house of cards collapses
I must agree with comment on two term limit,if they are good and what the people want they will get re elected,otherwise shorten their stay so they can be monitered and then ousted!
On the other hand, Republican Rauner wants to lower our pension benefits. Kind of hard to vote against my own self-interest.
Don't forget the Willard "Mitt the Mormon" Romney supports raising the minimum wage, too.
The minimum wage issue certainly has its share of supporters on both sides of the issue. I am for an increase in the federal minimum wage, ,maybe to 9 or 10 dollars. I don't think that if Illinois raises their wage it will drive jobs out of the state, but if the wage goes too high, jobs will be lost to automation. I am a conservative and I am for a minimum wage of 10 bucks an hour.
Rauner help, stop Shitigan from stopping the referendum!!!!!!! Use your billions to stop Shitigan. Rauner your big campaign promise was to have term limits! Will see if your a man of your word, now?!
Here is a good example of what raising the minimum wage causes. Dear Leader took his pen and mandated raising the minimum wage for govt. contractors. Now fast food joints on military bases are closing. As a "law professor" did he ever study the law of unintended consequences?
http://www.militarytimes.com/article/20140317/NEWS/303170027/Some-fast-food-outlets-closing-military-bases
Too bad all of the police officers worked hard to get these guys elected as loyal D footsoldiers.
" No one should serve more than two terms."
5/16/2014 12:12:00 AM
One in office, one in prison. ;)
rb
Dave Savini is currently saying that CPD officers are tasing people for no reason and calling for the Feds. Moron doesn't get that the Feds have been here since Jody Weiss. He calls for a federal investigation on this incident http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-12-14/news/chi-chicago-man-tazed-at-police-station-calumet-district-20121213_1_percy-coleman-garage-floor-calumet-district-police-station
Will someone please -- PLEASE -- slap Madigan upside his Stoo-pid fucking head, a $10.00 dollar an hour minimum wage will spell the end of Illinois. In no time the entire state will be one big goddamn Ghost Town, every city, town, and village looking like THESE Places (and yes!...they are all in the good old USA! And no, they're not old mining boomtowns from the 1880's).
The reason is simple. That $10.00/hr versus the $8.25/hr is not merely $1.75 an hour more, nope, that $10 bucks represents a 21.21% Raise! And if that raise became law how long does anyone think it will take before EVERY WORKER demands the fucking raise....how about immediately. I know I sure as hell would if I was still working and not retired, and you can bet the fricken rent that Organized Labor will too. Not only will they do that but they'll also demand that raise NOW!...contracts be damned, 'Pay Us Now or We Strike!' And I wouldn't blame them.
So first of all will have disruptions due to strikes. Then we'll have companies going belly up because they can't pay the 21% raises which will put folks out of work and on welfare. All companies will increase their sale prices by 21% which many won't be able to afford. Then the lucky ones, like construction trades will be spending their raise on goodies, but that will create inflation, driving the economy in IL further in the fucking dump.
Oh, then the Fast Food workers and Low Information DummycRats who pushed this $10.00/hr bullshit will be right back at the bottom where they fucking started!! Except now they'll be flipping burgers in a goddamn Ghost Town.
Good going assholes. Enjoy your $10.00 dollars a fucking hour.
This cocksucker Madigan is the smartest politican in the country. As soon as something comes up that might limit his power, he is able to do an end around to stop it.
Your last paragraph took the words out of my mouth. this shit is tyranny and should not be allowed by the Constitution why not let he voters decide who they want and for how long? Enough of these politicians sucking off the publics teat.
The anonymous that said it is important that NO republicans get elected is so full of crap. Republicans didn't get the state 49billions in the hole, this state is doomed unless we change something, Springfield is no friend to any voter. The democrats have had their time to screw everything up, give us the Republicans a chance to change things.
Only this wrong with your thinking is where do you find a good democrat? :-)
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The anonymous that said it is important that NO republicans get elected is so full of crap. Republicans didn't get the state 49billions in the hole, this state is doomed unless we change something, Springfield is no friend to any voter. The democrats have had their time to screw everything up, give us the Republicans a chance to change things.
Only this wrong with your thinking is where do you find a good democrat? :-)
5/16/2014 03:27:00 PM
You really don't grasp the concept of sarcasm, do you?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I hate to say it, but term limits may be bad for Mike Madigan but that doesn't mean they're good for Illinois.
Term limits will ensure that only well financed, faceless stooges are elected.
Rauner, Ken Griffin and the Pritzkers will send you a different toadie every 8 years who is only loyal to them.
Think about it. The stooge needs corporate money to get elected to his two terms and he needs a job after it's over. If he bucks the system, he'll be black-balled for life. If he follows orders, he can look forward to a reward in the private sector from his masters.
Don't fall for this one.
5/16/2014 05:47:00 AM
Bull. We can do without DYNASTY and HEIRLOOM politics. Maybe we can revive the concept of statesmen, or at least representatives.
The grass is always greener. Term limits seem like a great idea, but they have their own negative effects. Legislators spend their few terms focusing on their next term-limited job, and never accrue the experience and connections to do their current job well. The party, and its contributors, become more important than the actual politician. Politicians also realize they only need to win 1 reelection, so they care less about if the electorate agrees with them after their second win. If we do term limits, we should consider 3-5 terms instead of the usual 2 that have caused these problems in other states. The idea definitely deserves more thought than the reflexive "hell yeah" we all feel.
Term limits wont get rid of career politicians, just the faces will change more often and they will have less accountability and more pressure to screw us as much as possible during their limited run.
These People Have This Control Thing Totally "Clocked". In The State of Illinois, There Is No Democracy.
"With All Our Rage, We Are Still, Just Rat's, In A Cage "
Arch criminal madigan has done more damage to this state than all the imprisoned govs combined. and drones, his pawns, street level guys are so damn short-sighted they dont realize when they help this scumbag get reelected time after time theyre destroying this state for themselves and their kids...
Scott Walker and his success in turning Wisconsin around. Check out the facts you fucking democrat drones. Funny on how the liberals thought Wisconsin was going to burn with his changes and they invaded the state building breaking laws and creating chaos. Where is the media now with his results? Silence. It doesn't fit the liberal medias agenda. This place blows and if you think this place normal then you really need to get out of Chicago and Illinois a little more. Really, you can still breath outside of this shithole. Just try thinking outside the cook county box. I am sorry but coppers that state they like/love the city after dealing with all ppl continually trying to ram it up our asses, you are fucking soft. We are not special in this town, so stuff your hat bands and police stickers up your ass.
Knocking a few more of the lower rungs off the job ladder will just mean more people dependent on government transfer payments. That's good for government. They'll just raise taxes some more.
Also we'll get to see even more of the few remaining places stuff that make stuff in this state shut down or move too.
Anonymous said...
Your last paragraph took the words out of my mouth. this shit is tyranny and should not be allowed by the Constitution why not let he voters decide who they want and for how long? Enough of these politicians sucking off the publics teat.
5/16/2014 02:46:00 PM
Thats what elections are for. This clown is being elected in every time because he controls how many jobs and other peoples careers. Its organized crome at its finest.
Scott Walker and his success in turning Wisconsin around. Check out the facts you fucking democrat drones. Funny on how the liberals thought Wisconsin was going to burn with his changes and they invaded the state building breaking laws and creating chaos. Where is the media now with his results? Silence. It doesn't fit the liberal medias agenda. This place blows and if you think this place normal then you really need to get out of Chicago and Illinois a little more. Really, you can still breath outside of this shithole. Just try thinking outside the cook county box. I am sorry but coppers that state they like/love the city after dealing with all ppl continually trying to ram it up our asses, you are fucking soft. We are not special in this town, so stuff your hat bands and police stickers up your ass.
Everything good comes from Wisconsin and go Pack!
Elected officials should never make more than 20% than the average pay in the state or city they represent .
6:58....
Statesmen?
The main problem here is twofold.
1.) The financial elites and Cosa Nostra contractors have a death grip on both parties here, "combine" anyone?
2.) The demographics of Cook County make most of these problems impossible to truly deal with.
The Rauner/Emanuel/Hedge Fund axis is setting us up for the killshot. If you think that they consider you any better then the folks in the 'hood, you're delusional.
It's the same strategy as LBJ's Great Society. Perpetuate a permanent underclass to keep Democrats in power. It doesn't matter what happens to the country or the State of Illinois. The damage it does means nothing to them. When are we going to stop taking it? God save the United States of America.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
These People Have This Control Thing Totally "Clocked". In The State of Illinois, There Is No Democracy.
"With All Our Rage, We Are Still, Just Rat's, In A Cage "
5/16/2014 08:49:00 PM
Another overused phrase that should be banned from SCC, along with the deck chairs on the Titanic comments.
You want the voters to have a voice? Maybe they should go out and fricking vote once in awhile. We have term limits. they'r called elections. Do you really want your elected officials immediately thinking about which special interest group they can make happy so they can have a job when they are out of office? Think it through people. Think it through.
You want the voters to have a voice? Maybe they should go out and fricking vote once in awhile. We have term limits. they'r called elections. Do you really want your elected officials immediately thinking about which special interest group they can make happy so they can have a job when they are out of office? Think it through people. Think it through.
5/17/2014 06:41:00 PM
By the time they learn how to steal without getting caught a new group comes in. Less familiarity and less corruption go hand in hand. I've thought it through. We need to change and change it now.
If we find we've made a mistake, we can change the law. We KNOW it is a problem now. Vote these thieves out of office or change the law, whatever it takes to get the job done.
Madigan did the same exact thing the Teamster Pension Fund mobsters are all doing 30 and 40yrs in the joint for and they only difference between the two cases is the mobsters made much smarter investments like Las Vegas Casinos, where Madigan and his crew invested in phony shell corporations with their bagmen, Daleys dickhead, pussy boy relatives there to grab the dough and bring it to him. I have more respect for the outfit guys. because they used real corporations.
"crafty little devil" is one way to describe Madigan, the more accurate description is satan.
SCC hope you post something Regarding the Sun Times article on Madigan's ruses concerning this matter. If I had members of my family (which they all do) on patronage jobs which ALL STEM from Madigan, I'd vote with him too. They didn't say that but he continuously has almost 95% on bills.
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