This Place Must Suck
Given the opportunity, there'd be a lot more empty space around these parts:
- Half of Illinois residents would move to another state if they could — the highest percentage for any state, according to a poll released by Gallup this week. Nearly half of those polled in Connecticut and Maryland said they would move.
Some 19 percent of Illinoisans surveyed said they plan to move in the next 12 months, a rate that trailed only Nevada.
Of course, half of Illinois isn't moving out tomorrow. But the affluent and middle class will as factories close and service industry jobs relocate to business friendly states. And states more respective of individual rights, lower taxes, and of course, lower criminal activities - both by the citizens and the politicians.
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posted by SCC at 12:02 AM
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Better get out now, before uz can't leave.
And state government wants a progressive income tax. If they pass that there really isn't much reason to stay.
And the state is considering a progressive income tax. If that becomes a reality productive people will really have no choice but to leave this state.
"Of course, half of Illinois isn't moving out tomorrow." -- SCC
Yeah, not all at once, not all on the same plane.
"Some 19 percent of Illinoisans surveyed said they plan to move in the next 12 months."
Round that up 1 and put it this way -- one out of five people are going to leave Illinois during the next year.
The state is going to lose 20% of its population right quick -- just for starters.
Could a good outbreak of bubonic plague match that? Not even a "dirty bomb."
...and how many next year?
"The affluent and middle class will [move away]..."
...leaving those remaining with an ever-increasing taxes/"fees" burden to take up the slack.
That's an awfully big story, isn't it? Yet the news anchors are sort of laughing, smiling as they back-and-forth on their studio couches making light of it.
Circling the drain -- circling, circling...
Thu, May 1, 2014 3:13 pm
exit
From Michael Lucci mlucci@illinoispolicy.org
Half of Illinoisans would leave the state if they could, according to a recent Gallup poll. That percentage is the highest of any state in the nation.
This comes a week after a Gallup poll that showed one in four Illinoisans consider Illinois to be the worst possible place to live.
(http://www.illinoispolicy.org/1-in-4-illinoisans-think-state-worst-place-to-live-in-u-s/)
The Gallup poll asked:
“Regardless of whether you will move, if you had the opportunity, would you like to move to another state, or would you rather remain in your current state?”
Illinois is the only state in which half the respondents want to leave. Illinois is accompanied in the top 10 by a collection of other high-tax states. Six of the states people most want to leave ranked among the seven worst for the Tax Foundation’s 2014 Tax Freedom Day.
Respondents were also asked to cite the main reason they want to move out. One in four Illinoisans cited the work and business environment as the leading factor. Another 8% cited taxes. This is no surprise in the state with the third-worst jobless rate (http://www.illinoispolicy.org/illinois-loses-3200-payroll-jobs-another-business-exits-the-state/) and a reputation for cronyism.
(http://www.illinoispolicy.org/illinois-and-chicagos-pattern-of-cronyism-and-corporate-handouts/)
These polls were conducted between July and December of 2013, and so were not influenced by the chilling “polar vortex” Illinois experienced this past winter.
And Illinoisans don’t just talk the talk; they also walk the walk. According to Internal Revenue Service statistics, Illinois lost 50,000 residents to net out-migration in 2010 (http://www.illinoispolicy.org/irs-data-show-more-taxpayers-fleeing-illinois/). More recently, Census estimates show that Illinois is losing as many as 70,000 people per year to net out-migration.
(http://www.realclearpolitics.com/lists/out_migration_states/illinois.html)
The Illinois General Assembly needs to act quickly before the state loses more people. The first action lawmakers can take would be to fulfill their promise to sunset the 2011 tax hikes. Such a move would immediately improve the state’s business environment and improve Illinois’ worst-in-the-nation level of trust in government.
(http://www.illinoispolicy.org/only-28-of-illinois-residents-trust-state-government-lowest-in-nation/)
Michael Lucci
Director of Jobs and Growth
Illinois Policy
190 S. LaSalle St.
Suite 1630
Chicago, Illinois 60603
(312) 346.5700
And I wasn't even asked. Make it 50.0001%
Now if only the liberals, demorats, progressives and takers would leave, this state would have a chance at being a great place to live.
It's like Atlas shrugged or something. Imagine what Illinois will look like in ten years.
Doesn't say much about Illinois does it? What a sad and unhappy place. But then they same republicans tend to be happier than democrats.
If I can help it I will be gone before 2016. Two biggest obstacles are selling the house and finding a new job, but as soon as that happens, peace out.
The very rich and the very poor don't have to move, they can ride out the storm as we in the middle get raped to pay for everything.
Have you democrats noticed that the states you run are among the ones most likely to lose population? No, I thought not. These democrat fucks are like locusts, after they destroy a state and it becomes intolerable for them to live there, they move on and start corrupting a new one.
Illinois has become a welfare state. There are so many freebies to rif raff and illegal immigrants that taxpayers like me are sick of it.
Illinois could be a rich state with all our agriculture. But instead our wealth is given away in the form of welfare to people who refuse to work/ and or are illegaly here and shouldn't get any free stuff!
I love it, they tax the hell out of us and keep making laws that restrict our freedoms. And wonder why people move.
Governor Potato Head. Let's keep status quo. Why be in better shape?
I moved to Austin Texas after retirement. Absolutely the best move I could have made. Better climate, far less crime, lower taxes, friendly people, explosive housing market. Whatever you do, don't stay another day in the city after retirement. It will only make you angry.
I can handle a little crime here and there - that's life in a big city. What I cannot tolerate is the continuous thievery and criminal activity by the Chicago and Cook County politicians. I am sick and tired of my tax dollars being used to line the pockets of everyone who sold their soul to the Democrats. We're leaving too. Can't afford to stay.
If all the taxpayers leave, who will take care of me?
Since we retired from the CPD, we have moved out of Illinois and are the HAPPIEST we have ever been!! The grass is truly greener over the state line...GET OUT WHILE YOU CAN!!
Wow!
We are in a shitload of trouble
Frustration. We have a fiscal crisis. Does money from TIF funds, income tax hikes, sales tax hikes, service tax hikes, go to fix the crisis - NO. It goes to new social programs, stadiums, bike paths, new parks but it is not used to fix the main problem. It is like borrowing money to buy new furniture for your house rather than fixing the leaking roof which destroyed the old furniture. Just makes no sense. Consequently many just want to move to a new house (state).
I left twenty years ago and hardly looked back. My 'Squad Partner' also moved to Maine - then decided he missed the crime and corruption so much he just hadda move back.
Our state has been sacrificed to keep Democrats in power.
Now if only the liberals, demorats, progressives and takers would leave, this state would have a chance at being a great place to live.
I wish those useless bastards would leave...
And let me guess, the people who will be leaving Illinois aren't part of the parasitic, welfare-sucking criminal class, right?
The Madigan-Cullerton-Quinn death spiral continues.
nice going you garbage politicians and liberals, socialist, ghetto people...
If you don't like it and are unhappy in this great state, than all I can say is move. We don't need unhappy citizens. NY and New Jersey are looking for people to move there, so move.
Hubby and I moved out of the City the day after he retired to a small town close to the Wisconsin border. Only thing keeping us in Ill is no taxes on your pension.
Winter in AZ and summer up north in WI.
I wasn't asked ...but we gone in a heartbeat if I could....I'd guess if they asked everyone that number would be closer to 70-75 %.....
I'll first say that I'm a younger guy (35) and not a cop. Hope you guys don't hold that against me. Ha! But seriously, though, I'm obviously nowhere near retirement, but I got too fed up with the complete clusterfuck that is Illinois and Chicago. I got a job here in Montana and moved out here in August. I love it out here! Moving out here makes me realize how much Illinois sucks. The scenery here is gorgeous. It's cheap to live here (in most parts). Taxes are low, and our second amendment rights are honored. Also, the people tend to be very nice and friendly. If any of you Chicago guys are looking to get out of that craphole, I think (not guaranteeing) that the Montana State Highway Patrol is hiring. You'll probably have to take a paycut, but it is SO much cheaper to live out here, so it evens out.
This feeling has really occurred over the last thirty years. Having family that settled here in the 1850 it makes me crazy that I will leave ASAP. Here are the reasons why Chicago and Illinois has tanked. DALEY/ DALEY / DALEY / DALEY / DALEY / DALEY / MADIGAN / MADIGAN / MADIGAN / MADIGAN / EMANUEL / EMANUEL. All of the above should be in prison!!!
I can't wait to leave only eight more years and my sentence is over. If I had it to do over again I would have applied to departments out of State. This Department has had nothing but problems from day one shame on me for staying and thinking things would get better. We can't even get a living wage raise in this place but that does not stop the powers at be raising property taxes and the shitheads moving around the corner lowering my property value. When I retire I probably won't have a pension worth anything and my house will probably be worth nothing. So I will probably need to get extra employment somewhere else just to live at the poverty level. Keep your heads up boys and girls its only going to get worst. If you don't have a lot of time on start applying in other States don't get stuck here like the rest of us.....Peace......West Side copper
>>>> 'Montana, Hawaii and Maine had the lowest percentage of residents expressing a desire to move. <<<<
I've had my eye on Montana since the late 1990s and would have been there long ago if not for the wife's family here especially her Mom. We finally go out of Brighton Park last October and is now a 1 1/2 minute car ride, or 7 minute walk, away from us.
Though Montana has problems too now, a Meth epidemic. And liberals have bought millions of prime acres of Ranch land driving up prices. Ted Tuner is the biggest land owner in MT and has it all sealed off, it's 'No Trespassing & Prosecution' for peons. Other Rich Libs did the same, Sam Donaldson (ABC sNews) has a fair sized Ranch there too.
(Meth I can deal with and handle. Libtards, not in this lifetime (assholes))
The snotty egg-headed Northerners used to make fun of Mississippi, Alabama, and the South as backward.
Now it's liberal hellholes such as Illinois and California that are economic and social basket cases.
It's true, Its true, this place really sucks.
Political leeches are killing this city like an Ebola virus. Retirement just isn't feasible in IL. Go ahead and build that library - I won't be here to fund it.
I'm ret. but have family that can't move out elderly etc. who knows how long but Texas or Arizona sound real good. It's a shame that we have let politicians [who will move out when they ret'] and minorities that can't get a handle on their rug rats and have no education because they never had to work for anything ruin one of the former greatest states in the union go to hell someday it will all come back to bite them in the ass.
when i retire i plan to move to maywood,ill. a wonderful town full liqour stores beauty salons and bible churches, and crack houses, hey im just kidding.
I own my (small) house outright.
I refuse to add "improvements" to it because I figure that eventually my county (not Cook) will tax its value into the dirt.
When we add all taxes (sales, property, income, fuel, etc.) I'll bet Illinoisans pay 3x the taxes of residents of FL or AZ, yet it's not Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome in those states.
I figure 2/3rd of all the money taxing bodies collect in Illinois disappears into the pockets of political cronies, politicians' family members, etc.
Only in Illinois is the "state admin building" named after a LIVING ex-governor, who has a law firm that does business in that architectural monstrosity.
That's graft for you, worse than just about anywhere.
And we wonder why I and many others would leave if given half a chance?
Hubby and I moved out of the City the day after he retired to a small town close to the Wisconsin border. Only thing keeping us in Ill is no taxes on your pension.
Winter in AZ and summer up north in WI.
Sounds like like you have it all figured out. You are right about staying on this side of the border,no taxes on pension is huge.
Enjoy your retirement.
I can't wait to leave only eight more years and my sentence is over. If I had it to do over again I would have applied to departments out of State. This Department has had nothing but problems from day one shame on me for staying and thinking things would get better. We can't even get a living wage raise in this place but that does not stop the powers at be raising property taxes and the shitheads moving around the corner lowering my property value. When I retire I probably won't have a pension worth anything and my house will probably be worth nothing. So I will probably need to get extra employment somewhere else just to live at the poverty level. Keep your heads up boys and girls its only going to get worst. If you don't have a lot of time on start applying in other States don't get stuck here like the rest of us.....Peace......West Side
Get a grip man and quit whining. If you only have 8 years left you are earning 85,000 to 90,000. Thats a decent wage and probably 75 to 85% of the public would be happy with that. Home values are holding in Chicago and your pension hasnt change and dont worry, you wont be below poverty level. Man, you are one downer. What else can go wrong for you.
I gots 4 yrs and 10 months till I maxim out and then I b outta here.... Don't forget the Berlin Wall penalty that's here, 3.5% of your home sale goes to shitcago if you don't buy again in the city on top of a 5-7% commission if you use a realtor. Down size your home before you leave so they (Rahm,Madigan,democrats) don't get as much from your home sale to give to illegals so they can buy more votes cause that's all this is about. Go south and west to red states, it's the future for working people. Remember on this job the motto now is " to survive and escape" .... Good luck and be safe.
With the High Speed railway to St.Louis and all prison camps in between, only the voting Democrats will keep the Census Bureau employed and Illinois in the red.
What this state needs is a presidential library to keep it attractive to newcomers and where current residents can reflect on all the hopes and changes that were brought forth and maybe it wouldnt hurt to create some sort of benefits program to help those in need.
Read a study recently in a magazine that listed top ten states for welfare. In Illinois, a single mother with 2 children, who takes advantage of all the generous forms of entitlements, has a standard of living equivalent to someone earning $52,000 a year.
I work 2080+ hours a year and make roughly $72,000 a year and have an after tax income of $51,000 give or take, after paying all the BS fees and corruption taxes to support the welfare leeches in Illinois.
The illiterate, crack addled, welfare slug, has a standard of living equal to mine. Unreal!..I'm sick of shopping at Aldi and watching the LINK recipient go to the lot, and leave in a newer, nicer car than mine. Fuck them..and fuck Illinois! Can't wait to retire and leave.
"Montana, Hawaii and Maine had the lowest percentage of residents expressing a desire to move. <<<<
I've had my eye on Montana since the late 1990s and would have been there long ago if not for the wife's family here especially her Mom. We finally go out of Brighton Park last October and is now a 1 1/2 minute car ride, or 7 minute walk, away from us.
Though Montana has problems too now, a Meth epidemic. And liberals have bought millions of prime acres of Ranch land driving up prices. Ted Tuner is the biggest land owner in MT and has it all sealed off, it's 'No Trespassing & Prosecution' for peons. Other Rich Libs did the same, Sam Donaldson (ABC sNews) has a fair sized Ranch there too.
(Meth I can deal with and handle. Libtards, not in this lifetime (assholes))"
I used to work in Brighton Park before I moved. I could tell that at one time, it was a decent community full of hard-working, honest people. Now, it's a cesspool full of illegal immigrants who hate "gringos" and just want to take, take, take. It's very sad and it makes me that much more glad that I got the hell out of there.
If you don't like it and are unhappy in this great state, than all I can say is move. We don't need unhappy citizens. NY and New Jersey are looking for people to move there, so move.
5/02/2014 08:27:00 AM
Great state? You are on crack...
Really. I know a lot of people who are just your average working Middle-Class Taxpayers with Families. There's not a single one of them that wants to be in the totally mismanaged, fucked up State of Illinois. They all want to leave, but have jobs or family here, and can't leave yet, but are just waiting for the Day they can get out of the Prison-State of Illinois.
Hubby and I recently moved from the south loop to northern Michigan. Even though we loved living in the city and will be taxed on our pension, we are relieved to have escaped the Chicago cesspool of politics and crime. We feel like we have dodged a bullet -financially and literally.
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