CTA Shooting
- A man who opened fire on a CTA Blue Line train with “an assault weapon-type rifle” Thursday morning was taken into custody, Chicago Police Supt. Garry McCarthy said.
While no one was hurt in the shooting, passengers were rattled when the man fired five shots from the La Salle Station platform at the oncoming train about 11:20 a.m.
- At a news conference later in the day, McCarthy confirmed that five shots were fired at the train, but he wouldn’t speculate about the man’s motive. He said the man had a FOID card and that the stock had been cut off the rifle.
“He fired a number of shots at the train — not an individual, which is perplexing,” McCarthy said. “We responded, we got the gun, we got him. It’s kind of bizarre behavior. I don’t know his motivations.”
If you can classify him as a mental, he might lack intent. Without intent, CompStat can claim there wasn't a crime and all those bullet dents and holes are just so much "damages of unknown origin!" It's fool-proof!
Labels: crime
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
60 Comments:
Basically, it never happened.
Move along.
Trib reports that he had 60 rounds on him.
Amazing that no one was hit.
A criminal with a FOID card?
Is that a first?
Don't let that I bond slip outcha hand when you're leaving.
Thank God for Compstat is always explains so much and looks so rad
SWAT was only 70 minutes away. Everybody else was on a fixed post for safe passage.
So much for NO CARRY zones. This idiot is a perfect example of why you have to carry.
What? Did everyone forget Colin Ferguson on the Long Island train who killed so many people on their way home from work - and then tried to deny it?
Screw the NO CARRY zones and Beretta should sue anyone who uses that sticker - when did they get permission to use an image of Beretta's 92 product????
Its time to make sure transit officers are doing their jobs at all times .
Why are they hiding this guy? What is the City and Media afraid of? Where is the Perp Walk?
So a stock cutoff now constitutes a "assault weapon ?
A criminal with a FOID surprising!
Good thing there are no guns allowed on the public transportation system. There are stickers that protect us. Thanks goodness. This story must be from the Onion, right? Hell in a hand basket...
As long as they don't call him A Person Of Interest I'm happy.
You notice they had to add that he had an FOID in order to appease the anti gun nuts.
No keeses for them.
This CAN'T be right!
Firearms are not allowed on CTA property.
Transit officers are not allowed to carry/deploy with rifles. The mayor said the rifles look too scary. Which is scary, an officer carrying a rifle or some guy shooting his rifle at the trains?
Just A Citizen Says: Middle of the day, some fucktard starts shooting at an el train? MIDDLE OF THE DAY? And nobody around had a CCW to take this asshole out? This is very reassuring.
was it possibly terrorist related?
When you vote in November and February , remember that certain politicians made it illegal for citizens with concealed carry permits to protect themselves from crime on the CTA trains and buses .
They allow us to be robbed,raped ,shot ,attacked with machetes.
OT
Three attempt abductions I. The Morgan park , beverly , mount greenwood neighborhood .
Where was our beat car when crime occurred?
Safe passage , school dismissal on east end , check off roll call ? It is not 1950 , Morgan park police district needs 5 beat cars , 1 wagon assigned to each sector .
We have become an easy target . Armed robbery at 103 and Kedzie , not much on that story .
Let's hire workers for safe passage at every school in our neighborhoods .
So what's the difference between being on a CTA platform and shooting at trainloads of people, and being at the airport and shooting at planeloads of people, or being on the street and shooting at busloads of people?
Not even a name given out. Why does this guy drop off into some kind of notch and nothing much happens?
We've had "head cases" around the CTA before. That didn't get them off. Remember Joseph Konopka? Doing 13 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Konopka
What you mean we Tonto? You were not there Garry so "WE" should not be used how about "OFFICERS" were there and grabbed the guy. BY the way what flavor was the perp?
Yep, this is exactly why citizens SHOULD cc EVERYWHERE!!! To hell with the stickers and no carry zones. Those stickers aren't going to save your ass when DUDE shows up popping caps.
Private security guards prevent more crime than mass transit officers , no supervision .
GEE!...an attack with an assault weapon less than 24 hours after Gov. Quinn puts out a campaign ad about assault rifles, intimating they are illegal in Illinois.
Unfortunately, no carry zones are the "best" targets for bad guys, the easiest targets, and the places where we most need concealed carry. Every time I see one of these stupid signs, I wonder to myself, it's fine with the ISP and my local police and the Illinois legislature for me to be armed EVERYWHERE else, and yet the building owner or manager arbitrarily knows better than these organizations that I shouldn't be armed there? Ridiculous.
bull-shit that he had a FOID ... no way
OK, finally something.
Charges announced after South Shore man fires assault rifle at CTA train
"A South Shore man has been charged in connection with a Thursday shooting of a CTA train that Chicago's top cop dubbed "bizarre."
"Lorenzo Jones, 25, is facing several felonies after police said he fired an assault rifle several times at a CTA Blue Line train Thursday morning. No one was injured in the shooting.
"Jones, of the 7500 block of South Luella Avenue, allegedly fired five times at a train about 11:20 a.m. on the Blue Line platform at South LaSalle Street and West Van Buren Street, police said.
"Jones has been charged with one count of aggravated assault and discharge of a firearm, one count of possession of a stolen firearm, and two counts of aggravated unlawful use of a weapon, all felonies.
"After police responded to a call of shots fired, a district officer on foot patrol spotted Jones nera the station and arrested him.
"Jones, who has a lengthy arrest record, is due to appear in bond court Friday afternoon."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-charges-announced-after-man-25-fires-assault-rifle-at-cta-train-20141009-story.html
I thought only white guys want ballistic with assault rifles?
Off topic: looks like the Sgt.'s Union forgot to pay their bill and lost their website domain
Every passenger should sue the city for not allowing concealed carry to defend themselves. If they're denied that right, the city needs to provide the security to prevent this sort of thing.
He just a little slow so it's okay. Momma was on the tv blaming the system.
I know that the Red Line station @ 95th was safe. 8 officers assigned there daily!
Anonymous said...
Just A Citizen Says: Middle of the day, some fucktard starts shooting at an el train? MIDDLE OF THE DAY? And nobody around had a CCW to take this asshole out? This is very reassuring.
10/10/2014 08:38:00 AM
Congratulations on catching on to the lib-tard, knee-walking, nanny statist, pandering to society's least common denominator to spit in the eye of the common sense man by curtailing HIS RIGHT to be safe and be able to mount a spirited defense of himself and perhaps others in the face of mind rotted m/fers being free and easy to do THIS...
"Disarm everybody in as many public places and spaces as possible for their safety."
"We don't need to hire additional Police, we have plenty."
"Chicago has a GUN problem..."
>Hoping one of those rogue guns run up on little legs and discharge itself multiple times into the ass of every media type and politician who actively avoids discussion of the MUTTS who run around banging guns with impunity...<
Shit-Head caught with a gun x2 should = 50 years in prison. Serve 100% of it.
Society's push-back and retribution.
Can you handle that?
Or would you cry mercy for people who would show you and your family none?
Only the upright and law abiding are getting hurt here...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Just A Citizen Says: Middle of the day, some fucktard starts shooting at an el train? MIDDLE OF THE DAY? And nobody around had a CCW to take this asshole out? This is very reassuring.
10/10/2014 08:38:00 AM
Citizen with a CCW does not have police powers and no lawful authority to shoot anyone unless his life is directly in danger.
The Song Remains The Same said...
This CAN'T be right!
Firearms are not allowed on CTA property.
10/10/2014 08:23:00 AM
Offender is in violation of decal. CCW holders are violating the law if they carry a weapon on CTA property. Or in Starbucks.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
So a stock cutoff now constitutes a "assault weapon ?
10/10/2014 07:10:00 AM
Hi Point makes a .45 ACP carbine that looks similar to an assault rifle. Good trunk rifle, home protection etc.
OT: Any truth to the 10 hour days coming back?
Anonymous said...
Transit officers are not allowed to carry/deploy with rifles. The mayor said the rifles look too scary. Which is scary, an officer carrying a rifle or some guy shooting his rifle at the trains?
10/10/2014 08:24:00 AM
After 9/11 The US Coast Guard deployed some of their boats around the filtration plant and Navy Pier. They were ordered to mount automatic weapons on the various hard mounts on their boats. I am not sure if they were M-60's or an updated version or similar. That lasted a week or so. The clout hacks at Navy Pier complained those machine guns looked scary. That was Coast Guard, then a part of the US military. The automatic weapons came off.
Also it was forbidden to dock private vessels between Navy Pier and the filtration plant. That didn't last long either. One boat was given special dispensation to dock there. That was the private yacht Blackhawk, then owned by Bill Wirtz. The Blackhawk could go where the owner wanted.
Keating blew a gasket. Wants everything swept under a shaggy rug!
Anonymous said...
Transit officers are not allowed to carry/deploy with rifles. The mayor said the rifles look too scary. Which is scary, an officer carrying a rifle or some guy shooting his rifle at the trains?
Mass transit is never available for anything. When was the last time mass transit made an arrest? Anytime calls come out for train related issues, beat cars handle them because "No mass transit units available". Funny how coppers working special CTA employment get more activity than the do nothing guys assigned to that unit. Biggest waste of resources withing the department.
"Hi Point makes a .45 ACP carbine that looks similar to an assault rifle. Good trunk rifle, home protection etc."
10/10/2014 06:50:00 PM
News story today mentioned that this was a ".45 caliber rifle."
Also mentioned that s__thead is being held on $2 million bond.
Bet perp has a link card and on Other welfare .
Bubblehead, as always, stole the show!
Just A Citizen: I'm about as pro-police, conservative and anti-anything liberal as you can get. And the time is coming when we will have no other option than to defend ourselves. Why do rules ONLY apply to us and not the savages? Someone starts popping caps off near me and I am defending myself. A civil war is brewing thanks to the current regime and you PO's cannot be everywhere all the time, everyday babysitting these welfare loving turds.
"After 9/11 The US Coast Guard deployed some of their boats around the filtration plant and Navy Pier. They were ordered to mount automatic weapons on the various hard mounts on their boats. I am not sure if they were M-60's or an updated version or similar. That lasted a week or so. The clout hacks at Navy Pier complained those machine guns looked scary. That was Coast Guard, then a part of the US military. The automatic weapons came off."
10/10/2014 08:32:00 PM
Coast Guard to use machine-gun boats
July 14, 2005
"LAKE MICHIGAN — U.S. Coast Guard boats armed with machine guns will be patrolling off the shores of Lake Michigan this month, but the occasion is nothing dire.
"Coast Guard spokesmen said the boats will be here to train local units, assist in routine patrols and provide a few days of security for a Canadian frigate visiting Navy Pier.
"Lt. Rolando Hernandez, spokesman for Coast Guard Group Milwaukee, said the boats will not appear as a result of last week's bus and train bombings in London--as has been reported in other news media--or any specific threat.
"Armed with M240 machine guns, the 25-foot fast-response boats, part of the Marine Safety and Security Team, will be sent from the East Coast. The Department of Homeland Security has bought several hundred such boats since the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, about 35 of which are stationed in the Great Lakes, Coast Guard spokesman Lt. J.G. Ryan Barone said."
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2005-07-14/news/0507140248_1_boats-lake-michigan-machine-guns
U.S. Delays Plan for Machine-Gun Drills on Great Lakes
September 03, 2006|Michael Hawthorne | Chicago Tribune
"CHICAGO — The Coast Guard has been quietly planning to conduct target practice on Lake Michigan with boat-mounted machine guns that would be fired a few miles from beaches along the North Shore.
"But plans to establish a permanent "live-fire zone" in waters near Illinois' Highland Park, Lake Forest and Waukegan -- and in 33 other spots around the Great Lakes -- are on hold after boating groups and a congressman complained that the public wasn't informed about the training exercises.
"Firing live ammunition at floating targets in the lakes is "essential to carrying out Coast Guard missions relating to military operations and national security," the documents [stated]."
http://articles.latimes.com/2006/sep/03/nation/na-livefire3
They scotched the plans when the complaining continued. All kinds of training -- aircraft carriers, subs -- took place out there during WWII and the military never hurt any civilians.
"The M240, officially Machine Gun, 7.62mm, M240, is the US military designation for the FN MAG (Mitrailleuse d'Appui Général, meaning General Purpose Machine Gun), a family of belt-fed, gas-operated medium machine guns firing the 7.62×51mm NATO cartridge.[1]
"The M240 has been used by the United States Armed Forces since the late-1970s. It is used extensively by infantry, most often rifle companies; as well as ground vehicles; watercraft; and aircraft. Despite not being the lightest medium machine gun in service, it is highly regarded for reliability..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M240_machine_gun
I know that the Red Line station @ 95th was safe. 8 officers assigned there daily!
10/10/2014 05:39:00 PM
Like any other detail, gotta baby sit the beast. Screw the regular joe on the train trying to get to a job. THey don't need police protection.
How bout the tourists coming into the city from the airports, same thing. Not a copper on any of them orange line trains
Go for the12 hour schedule .
Mass transit officers are on fixed posts mostly on red line. All other lines up for grabs. Tactical robbery teams working 4 hr days kicking ass with anovs.
Mass transit is never available for anything. When was the last time mass transit made an arrest? Anytime calls come out for train related issues, beat cars handle them because "No mass transit units available". Funny how coppers working special CTA employment get more activity than the do nothing guys assigned to that unit. Biggest waste of resources withing the department.
You're fucking idiot and jealous. They make arrests all the time even though they were told to write anovs only. It's the guys working Cta special that are afraid of their own shadow. I'd like to see your numbers. Shut your stupid pie hole and go back pushing your beat car
Mass transit is never available for anything. When was the last time mass transit made an arrest? Anytime calls come out for train related issues, beat cars handle them because "No mass transit units available". Funny how coppers working special CTA employment get more activity than the do nothing guys assigned to that unit. Biggest waste of resources withing the department.
You're fucking idiot and jealous. They make arrests all the time even though they were told to write anovs only. It's the guys working Cta special that are afraid of their own shadow. I'd like to see your numbers. Shut your stupid pie hole and go back pushing your beat car
Well you are right about one thing! You must do more anovs than beat cars do and certainly more than me. I make part 1 felony quality arrests, the kind that anovs can't be written for you DOG. Go get a CTA check while your at it clout baby.
Mass transit is never available for anything. When was the last time mass transit made an arrest? Anytime calls come out for train related issues, beat cars handle them because "No mass transit units available". Funny how coppers working special CTA employment get more activity than the do nothing guys assigned to that unit. Biggest waste of resources withing the department.
You're fucking idiot and jealous. They make arrests all the time even though they were told to write anovs only. It's the guys working Cta special that are afraid of their own shadow. I'd like to see your numbers. Shut your stupid pie hole and go back pushing your beat car
Brag about working a four hour tour genius. Proves their point Skokal.
Anonymous said:
Mass transit is never available for anything. When was the last time mass transit made an arrest? Anytime calls come out for train related issues, beat cars handle them because "No mass transit units available". Funny how coppers working special CTA employment get more activity than the do nothing guys assigned to that unit. Biggest waste of resources withing the department.
You sir, are an asshat. Typical roll call is 8-10 coppers. How many platforms can that many coppers cover at one time, 5 tops? If something happens and the trains get stopped, how do they get there with no car? Special has plenty of cars, mass transit watches have 2, one for transport, 1 for getting to 95th. Watch personnel not supposed to use special cars. That's why they are unavailable dimwit; can't get to the call! So shut up and do your job!
Well you are right about one thing! You must do more anovs than beat cars do and certainly more than me. I make part 1 felony quality arrests, the kind that anovs can't be written for you DOG. Go get a CTA check while your at it clout baby.
OOOOHH! You're the biggest and the best daddy! LOL Get a life, loser!
"Jones, who has a lengthy arrest record, is due to appear in bond court Friday afternoon."
He had a FOID card? Most likely it wasn't his, but the press doesn't care.
You sir, are an asshat. Typical roll call is 8-10 coppers. How many platforms can that many coppers cover at one time, 5 tops? If something happens and the trains get stopped, how do they get there with no car? Special has plenty of cars, mass transit watches have 2, one for transport, 1 for getting to 95th. Watch personnel not supposed to use special cars. That's why they are unavailable dimwit; can't get to the call! So shut up and do your job!
Thank you sir for proving my point. If there are only 8 of you and you have no cars and no way to get anywhere to be any assistance to anyone,
As I said before. A useless unit. Mass transit? More like redline/95th station security. Congratulations on your career accomplishments.
Thank you sir for proving my point. If there are only 8 of you and you have no cars and no way to get anywhere to be any assistance to anyone,
As I said before. A useless unit. Mass transit? More like redline/95th station security. Congratulations on your career accomplishments
I'm sure with your vast experience on the job that you know more than the rest of us. Congrats on your "quality" arrests, but please don't tell me all about them, for the 5th time, at the next Christmas party. Been there, done that, got the tshirt, years before you, so you aren't going to impress me. Maybe someday, you'll find a clue about what you're talking about, once you get a little time on the job, kid. Until then, go back to watching "Cops" and pretending you are them. You can even hum the theme song if you want.
Mass transit roll calls are held at Mariano's.
I'm sure with your vast experience on the job that you know more than the rest of us. Congrats on your "quality" arrests, but please don't tell me all about them, for the 5th time, at the next Christmas party. Been there, done that, got the tshirt, years before you, so you aren't going to impress me. Maybe someday, you'll find a clue about what you're talking about, once you get a little time on the job, kid. Until then, go back to watching "Cops" and pretending you are them. You can even hum the theme song if you want.
I earn my paycheck everyday sir. The amount of time I have on the job doesn't nor shouldn't matter. Our job descriptions and the uniform we wear may be the same, but somewhere along the line you forgot what it means to be the "police". I don't pretend to be the police, I wear the uniform proudly and do my job to the best of my ability day in and day out. I am the police.
Just so you know, I am not "jealous" of your choice of assignment on this job. I have more than enough time on this job to bid to a retirement spot. Only problem with me doing that is that I feel that my family, my fellow officers & the citizens I serve may then be stuck having to rely on a guy like you for help.
Ohh. Cry me a river ...old timer.
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