Murders Down!
- Chicago could record its lowest murder total in nearly five decades for the second consecutive calendar year, despite an increase in shootings in 2014.
Chicago Police reported 390 murders through Dec. 20, while the Cook County medical examiner’s office reported 410 homicides, including 16 fatal police shootings, during the same period. There have been at least 10 additional homicides and one fatal police shooting since then.
Police, which follow federal guidelines when counting murders, determined some of the homicides were self-defense or accidents.
Only through 20 December? Well, add a bunch to the intervening 8 days. We've seen headlines of another few since then. We're actually in dander of a single digit drop and well within striking range of 400...pending the outcome of half-a-dozen "death investigations" that will be reclassified sometime in January.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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Well over 400 dont let the media know
LIES LIES LIES AND MORE LIES!!!!!!!!
This is absolute BULLSHIT as one of the homicide detectives in this city I can tell you we are WAY OVER the 400 mark.... And this is even after McDipshit created the bullshit 5078 UCR code that only CPD uses, no other police department in the state uses this code, so even with them hiding murders we are only 9 away from last years totals.
We are already at at least 402.....and that's using the city's f'ed up accounting methods. Shootings up! Homicides down by single digits, at best (but not really wink-wink). Statistical insignificant compared to last year. The GVRS is nonsense and Compstat ain't working fellas.
We're at 408 and that's a fact. Plus a guy shot in the head tonight in 3. He's at stronger. See how that goes. I believe we had 408 last year. We're gonna pass that up easy.
Add one for the 15yr old that got shot six times a couple of weeks ago. He expired on Saturday. Homicides are "down" (yeah, sure), but shootings are up. The only reason there aren't more dead is the fact that modern medicine is saving more and more. Hey CFD....take the scenic route once in a while, huh?!
Heyjackass reports 383 shot and killed. Total homicides so far is 451. Shot and wounded is a staggering 2215!
How many children, (teenagers), were killed this year as opposed to other years? What about the people shot that were not the intended target that were shot?
How does heyjackass.com have the number at 454 for 2014?
"All Shootings Matter." The aggregate, along with the other associated wild-ass behavior, is what creates unlivable conditions in a large part of the city. I'll pass on any life-threatening, non-life-threatening, life-changing events, thanks, even though random/not random (used interchangeably.)
one bad guy points a gun at someone and pulls the trigger.
with every decade, medical advances improve the chance to save the shooting victim from death.
The rate of occurrence of bad guy pointing and shooting is still ridiculously high.
also, there ought to be a running tally of murders by repeat offenders and those released early for violent crimes and other weapons related offenses. those are clearly the most preventable murders.
A shout out to the CFD and ER people is in order, don't ya think.
Dead tree media are bought and paid for.
They are fed stories if the department didn't feed these hack stories they would have to travel around the hood asking questions.
The news only points out race when it is a white person as the offender.
Murders should be so easy to count but that means a news reporter has to actually keep a file.
Does anyone remember when the media kept track of every public school kid killed?
How about every crime on a safe passage route?
How about RAHM's kids robbery (dope buy)?
Ebola?
Missing airplanes?
Don't worry the next week will have shows about the BEST OF 2014
That is 390 too many! It should be zero.
How is it that Jackass.com reports 451 homicides and CPD gets away saying under 400?
We can thank (?) the great trauma teams at our local hospitals. They save most of these worthless mutts at a cost of $hundreds of millions every year to taxpayers. Not bashing the great doctors and nurses but just think it is a waste to bring these Ghetto rats back to life to do more crime.
True tally says were about 407, 5 less than last year at the same time. With all the VRI, VRE, Operation Impact, boxes, squares, contact cards, ANOVs, etc......I wouldn't be bragging.
A manipulation of numbers....just ask the d unit.
Under a dozen actual victims. The rest are assorted bangers and criminals. No worries to the law abiding.
Not that I doubt the numbers pushed by Supt McPhonyStats, but HeyJackass has the year-to-date Homicide Total at 452 ..........
----- Shot & Killed: 384,
----- Shot & Wounded: 2223,
----- Total Shot: 2607,
----- Total Homicides: 452
So excuse me if I'd rather believe the neutral HeyJackass guys over McClueless, whose job is to reduce crime numbers, and by any means he sees fit -- so more law abiding folks don't flee Rahm's Liberal Paradise.
Annnnnnd I hate to keep bringing this up but what good does lowering Homicide stats do when the Homicide Clearance Rates are f--king pathetic!
----- In 2010 out of 437 Homicides only 33.9% were cleared.
----- In 2011 out of 433 Homicides only 29.6% were cleared.
----- In 2012 out of 506 Homicides only 25.5% were cleared.
----- In 2013 out of 415 Homicides only 30.4% were cleared.
Now kiddies, we'll go back to this magical year of 1965, McJersey's new base-line for Homicides. Out of the 395 Homicides, 371 were solved! That's a clearance rate of 93.9%!!
So McBrainFart can spin anything he wants but it sure looks like HE is letting an awful lot of killers roaming the streets. In Chicago one really can Get Away With Murder! {Oh...and if HeyJackass's numbers are correct, it sure appears the 2013 homicide total has already been surpassed -- and not by just a little bit.}
Maybe ole Gar can climb off the barstool long enough to tell Mayor Flaming Tutu more Homicides Detectives are needed.
How many of the homicides are classified as "open death investigations"? I guess we really do live in a 1984 World- War = Peace, Death= Life, etc...
The journalists in this town are, for the most, children. All veterans are gone, laid off or forced into retirement. That said, it is management, not individual reporters, who make the decisions on what will be reported, i.e. descriptions of offenders, etc. So saying is this what you thought you would be doing while in journalism 101 is like asking cops today is this the kind of police work you thought you'd be doing while at the academy. Misplaced anger. The anger should be with the corporate media overlords (tv) and spineless cowards who run the city's print publications.
12/27/2014 08:46:00 PM
Bullshit.
Journalists have much more freedom than us due to our General Orders. If what you say is true, then how bout an expose' on the media overlords???
Have some BALLS
If it makes anyone feel better NO citizen believes a word that comes from the Media or Rahm's mouth piece.. must again be COMMON CORE math at work..
How many homicides were re-classified using the new death investigation code? i bet that would put us over 400.
Heyjackass dot com has us at 452 murders for the year. . . . I believe them before compstat.
Homicide on 2011's beat, it's been years since one was there
Hey guys..... Who cares? Everyone here gets so worked up about how many homicides we do or don't have. Are u guys really that concerned about it. Are you so politically involved that you are insulted the mayor and supt lie about the himicides numbers. Guys, get a life and a new hobby. There are much better things in life to do and think about than the city of chicago homicide totals and if people are lying about them. I don't care about homicides, I don't care about theater or the supt or horseshit statistics. I go to work, mind my business and do my job. I then go home and don't think about work till the next day when I got in to work. Get a life guys, don't get so worked about politicians lying.... It will always happen and I really don't care. One day when I retire which is still a ways off I will move from the city and get away from the politics.. I'm sure whereever that is there will still be politics and I will ignore them like I do now... Make it all less stressful for yourselves and ignore it. Hell, I don't even watch the news anymore.. Feels great!!
SCC, for some reason you won't place blame where it belongs. Follow the numbers;
1. the so called Chief of Dicks is nothing more than a castrated gelding. All of his power belongs to the DOC.
2. the little penguin that runs DOC is the main manipulator of the numbers, which allows him to keep his power.
3. the N.Y. guy....dick tracey gives the edict that numbers will be no higher than___(fill in the blank). Which means the penguin and his minions devise a plan on how to make it so i.e. "any death in which the deceased was injured prior the year of death will NOT be counted".
4. Mcwhatever is the puppet of raccoon eyes and therefore follows his marching orders thereby getting paid his due ala Judas.
5. this isn't innuendo, been there, seen/heard it first hand. Basically the message is if you value your "spot" you will follow orders, damned be the truth.
O.T.:
Bears look pathetic even against the hapless Vikings.
The Bears have to be in the running for the worst NFL team this year.
Their secondary can't cover a mannequin.
Hey CFD....take the scenic route once in a while, huh?!
Cold !!
But Funny...........
Jesus Christ is McCarthy an asshole!
Wow, that means I get yet another crime reduction award...!
A shout out to the CFD and ER people is in order, don't ya think.
12/28/2014 06:58:00 AM
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Ha! It's all Garry! Compstat saves lives!!!!!
signed, GM
The guy responsible for the count probably worked for a casino back in the day and is just skimming...old habits die hard
Anonymous Anonymous said...
How does heyjackass.com have the number at 454 for 2014?
12/28/2014 02:15:00 AM
Because, unlike the local media, they don't accept the pablum provided by McUseless' office. One gives accurate numbers. One is trying to make himself - and Rahm - look good by lying.
Even if true, which it is not, the success would be from the exemplary performance of paramedics, Doctors and Nurses, NOT CPD. Every shooting is a Murder that didn't go all the way thru to death. Don't Be Bullshitted by professionals. Professional LIARS.
Newsie-Floozies, lying for the Regime again
Off topic...........I heard that some people who were on disability for years were called back and put on limited duty. I'm just curious to know if this is true, as I amsomeone who might end up on disability. If I do end up on disability I dont want to be called back. I will comeback willingly if my body allows me to.
Clearance numbers are fudged. We had a guy kill his three kids, his wife and himself. Clearance rate was five for five , 100 percent. Offset 10 individual non clearances for a final average of 33 percent. Acceptable statistics in this day and age. One of eleven, nine percent, becomes a 33 percent clearance rate.
They don't count homicides where the injury occurred prior to 2014 and died in 2014. Which is bs. It don't become a homicide until they died. They count it in the year they were injuried.
Where is my 2015 FOP book? My partner received his yesterday and two of the months are missing! WTF
McNumbnuts and Napolean's people just keep on spinning. Crime is down!
Pay no attention to all the wildings etc.
Clearance numbers are fudged. We had a guy kill his three kids, his wife and himself. Clearance rate was five for five , 100 percent. Offset 10 individual non clearances for a final average of 33 percent. Acceptable statistics in this day and age. One of eleven, nine percent, becomes a 33 percent clearance rate.
Because we count individual homicide VICTIMS, not INCIDENTS. That's the FBI's rules, not ours.
Anonymous said...
Where is my 2015 FOP book? My partner received his yesterday and two of the months are missing! WTF
12/28/2014 11:14:00 PM
WTF,maybe its in the mail today
We have the highest number of homicides by firearm in 011, we also have the highest number of contact cards submitted. So I'm pretty sure that the contact cards are causing all the homicides, but Capt Lemmer disagrees.
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