BLOODBATH COMING!!!!!
- Almost 24,000 people in Cook County have received permits to carry concealed weapons since the state began the licensing process in January 2014, the Illinois State Police said Friday.
- Illinois State Police say more than 91,000 concealed-carry permits have been issued statewide since the state began allowing guns to be carried in public a year ago.
State police say 91,651 permits had been granted by the end of 2014.
Good Lord! That's 91,000 potential murderers! And 91,000 potential spouses killed!! And 91,000 potential suicides!!!
In fact, that means there are OVER 270,000 POTENTIAL VICTIMS OF GUN VIOLENCE OUT THERE RIGHT NOW!!!!
We have got to get into the funeral business. Seriously. The wave of victims is coming....shortly....and every gun sale is yet another potential victim in the making, Won't somebody think of the children!!!! Any day now....very soon.....aaaaaaaany minute now.....
Labels: gun issues, sarcasm AND silliness
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
121 Comments:
Here come the body cameras THIS TUESDAY in 014 as the pilot district.
Just watch how I DO NOTHING liberals.
The order:
http://directives.chicagopolice.org/directives/data/a7a57b73-14af4bb0-e1214-af4b-b44b0d70f0964db3.pdf?hl=true
OMG, our lawmakers have to do something and do it quick.
Why do I keep hearing rumors of a city wide deployment of 10hr days! And why hasn't the union explained what I may like about and what I won't like about a 10hr day? Can we sink the the 10hr days before the city gives them to us?
After all the hand-wringing, fear of blood in the streets (it's still Chicago-blood * is * running in the streets already), Mayor Emanuel & his lackey, Superintendent McCarthy spreading fear & threatening to shoot CCL-holders, and various other whining & complaining about allowing law-abiding citizens to carry firearms for self-protection, comes this:
Authorities call year-old concealed-carry law a 'non-event'
http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2015-01-03/authorities-call-year-old-concealed-carry-law-non-event.html
rb
"Illinois became the last state to allow concealed carry of firearms by citizens."
http://chicago.suntimes.com/news-chicago/7/71/297058/nearly-24000-people-cook-county-get-conceal-carry-permits
"Citizens," or "subjects"?
rb
OT: "Here come the body cameras THIS TUESDAY in 014 as the pilot district."
"Raw Video: Body cam captures police officer's last moments"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAcLOO0vOko#t=513
rb
And 91,000 crimes prevented, right?
Every squad I have been in for the past 2 weeks, have had a ticket on the camera. Every squad I've been I for the past 5 years has not had a working Mike. That's why I don't give a shit about body cameras.
For the policeman there are many rules with much over sight.
For the criminal there are only rules he breaks and excuses crafted for him by the weakest among us.
My money is on the criminal.
Haaa I don't need a body camera to do nothing. I learned long ago that its not worth making myself nuts. 1st and the 16th. yea I know... Im an old dog.
third watch 008 very sad about Captain Walsh departure …………………….not
I can't remember if it was Rahm of Mcarthy, but one of the @ssholes literally said "the streets would run red with blood".
Here come the body cameras THIS TUESDAY in 014 as the pilot district.
Just watch how I DO NOTHING liberals.
Body camera gonna show me driving in circles, taking lunch, driving in circles, taking a personal, driving in circles then flushing the toilet.
At first I thought you were just going a little crazy. That was until you said "Won't somebody think of the children!!!!" Then I realized that you might be running for a political office.
"Almost 24,000 people in Cook County have received permits to carry concealed weapons since the state began the licensing process in January 2014..."
...and it's pretty much invisible in terms of any problems, as it is in all the other states where it's allowed. The law-abiding and responsible will continue to be so.
That gun is the heaviest thing you will ever carry, folks. You can't call a bullet back. Always be mindful. Always be careful. Thank you.
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Belgium terror suspects had police uniforms, report says
January 17, 2015
"The two terror suspects killed in a Belgium raid Thursday had police uniforms at their hideout, along with a cache of assault rifles, knives and explosives, Sky News reported.
"The raid in Verviers, in which a third suspect was arrested, was one of 10 across the country that authorities say preempted an imminent terror attack against police targets, at a time when Europe is on edge following the Charlie Hebdo massacre in France.
"Fake IDs were found among the weapons cache, which included AK-47s.
"Sky News also reported that more than 25 people were being held in Belgium, France and Germany amid fears of another terror attack. In Belgium alone, 13 people were in custody, five of whom were later charged with "participating in the activities of a terrorist group."
"Belgian federal magistrate Eric Van der Sypt said the terrorists' goal was to kill police on the street or in their offices.
"The magistrate added that some of the terror suspects had recently returned from Syria, where they had been training and fighting with the Islamic State group, also known as ISIS, or ISIL..."
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/01/17/belgium-terror-suspects-had-police-uniforms-as-planned-to-kill-cops-report-says/
No more "open-borders" EU and US, with people playing hopscotch back and forth to the Middle East. Survivors should have their citizenship revoked and be deported.
"As many as 20 sleeper cells of between 120 and 180 people could be ready to strike in parts of Europe, a source tells CNN."
I wonder if the "sharp decline" in IL permits issued mentioned in the article was due to the ISP finally clearing their backlog.
For comparison, the Indiana Firearms Licensing Statistics website states that there were 570,712 active permit holders in 2Q 2014. Also, "Specifically noted under I.C. 35-47-2-3(l) the personal identifying information of permit applicants or active permit holders are not public record and will not be released by the Indiana State Police."
http://www.in.gov/isp/2963.htm
P.S. Keep up the great work, SCC. I enjoy reading your blog daily over morning coffee.
-Hoosier Buddy
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Other people get them to school, other people take them home...so what, exactly, does today's family do anymore?
Nation's second-largest school district plans to expand dinner program
Published January 17, 2015
"The nation's second-largest school district is eyeing a move to offer dinner to students at every school.
"Students at Kingsley Elementary in Los Angeles eat breakfast, lunch provided for them by the school as well as dinner. The trend around the nation is continuing as nearly 1 million students are served dinner or an after-school snack.
"This is something that should have started years ago."
"Washington and 13 other states began offering dinner as part of a pilot program expanded to all states after the Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act was passed in 2010..."
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/01/17/nation-second-largest-school-district-plans-to-expand-dinner-program/?intcmp=latestnews
What it really means is that there are an additional 91,000 victims that may shoot back, so choose your victims wisely. One of us is armed Mr. thug, see if you can figure out which one?
Now, before someone accuses SCC of being 'Chicken Little' note the final three words of the post....
"sarcasm and silliness."
Odds are someone still won't get it.
this is a non event, invented by potato head to keep the masses confused.
He managed to pardon folks who beat and shoot at the police, but he does not want the good citizens of Illinois to carry legally? How many arrests have been made of a permit holder state wide, who displayed the weapon or did something with the weapon that was wrong.
My guess is less than 100 state wide. that is Quinns biggest legacy. that he refused the masses their rights.
fuck him
From what I've read a concealed carry permit is a better deal than H.R.218 upon retirement. With HR 218 its $100 a year. With Concealed Carry its $150 for 5 years.
I seriously am getting into the funeral business. You will always have work 😊
Good stuff.
Sellouts!
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/chi-firefighters-union-endorses-emanuel-for-reelection-20150116-story.html
Well, at least it's good for the memorial t-shirt business.
Knowing CPD, the body Cameras will all be broke within a few months anyway, and never fixed right
That is all fine and good, but when is Illinois going to start processing non-resident concealed carry permits? Missouri and Kentucky don't honor Illinois permits and there is a move on in Indiana to rescind conceal carry reciprocity with Illinois.
Fire Fighters Union endorses Rahm. Cant really say much more.
I've been carrying since early March. So far my evil gun hasn't forced me to pull it out or shoot anyone.
How many more permits would there be if the asshole extortionists in Springfield hadn't set such an obscene permit fee? What if it were more in line with Utah, at say, $50?
yeah, I bet every stadium in cook county couldn't seat all those carrying concealed guns illegally either.....Illinois, perpetually moronic!!
I am afraid it is going to get real ugly out there, real soon. Shoot outs at the OK corale everyday.
Bravo CFD , your nothing but whores selling yourselves to the highest bidder............
Wow! What a *coincidence*. On the same day both of Chicago's news rags just happen to run articles on how many LAW ABIDING CITIZENS have Conceal Carry Licenses in Illinois, and in the Chicago Metro Area.
Gee, now what are the odds on that?!?!
(~~snicker~~)
After all, it's not like Illinois' Conceal Carry License holders have been in the news -- none have went on a random killing spree, capped someone in a fit of Road Rage on the Stevenson, started slinging lead with each other over a Parking Space, or pulled out his gun in a Restaurant because he got a shitty table and lousy service. Nor were there any 'Showdowns' on The Mag Mile or at State & Madison at...(drum roll)...'High Noon'. Well, last I checked anyway. (~~chuckle~~)
So why the two articles on the same subject? And how the hell did it happen on the same day?
Now I'm not gonna say there was collusion, nope, not me, that would be wrong. Nor would I accuse Tiny Dancer and/or Supt McNewlyWed of dropping a dime and **asking** the two editors to run articles on CONCEALED firearms so shortly after what happened in Paris France. Nope, I won't, as that would mean that our *Free Press* wasn't so free and are pushing an agenda.
It would also mean that the *Free Press* in Chicago are nothing but mouthpieces for the anti-gun (anti constitution) democrat politicians here. Politicians whose goal is to strip Americans of every single God-Given RIGHT they can get away with!
(~~~ gag-puke-gag-vomit-spit ~~~)
from politico
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/01/defensive-gun-ownership-myth-114262_Page2.html#.VLqE3dKjOjc
the left is going to go after guns again. You just watch. When you read the article, NO ONE had a clear sight picture of what they were shooting at.
On a side note, the news gazette in Champaign ran the same story last week. -0- CCW permit holders in the area caused any problems.
zero.
Government Sponsored bloodbath that is. The next census will include the number of households having a death by firearm. The Fundamental changers of America want your gun and freedom.
Hashtag that Pilgrim.
They are waiting until we get the Retro Checks to announce the 10 hr Day.
How about Local 2 endorsing Rham!
You like how only patrolmen are to wear BMC's. how about sergeant, lieutenants, and captains while working the streets. Nope they don't need them, they never make mistakes, plus how can they preach to you the b.s. if they are caught on camera violating policy.
One word. Belgium. Put one PO (carbine certified) at each front desk. Consider another in the lot to see it coming. High Five to Police in Belgium, 2 terrorist dead 1 in custody.
How about a hearty GFY to Anne Williams and Kelly Cassidy's chicken little routine.
Anonymous said...
From what I've read a concealed carry permit is a better deal than H.R.218 upon retirement. With HR 218 its $100 a year. With Concealed Carry its $150 for 5 years.
1/17/2015 08:20:00 AM
Its not always just about money.
100,000 new concealed carry permits issued and the murders ,shootings still occur by criminals without foid , ccw permits . Another unknown fact most murders , shooting are committed by malê blacks under the age of 30 .
http://www.usacarry.com/concealed_carry_permit_reciprocity_maps.html
Anonymous said...
Fire Fighters Union endorses Rahm. Cant really say much more.
1/17/2015 09:07:00 AM
Did he know it when he gave them the retro checks early? But it also says rahm wants them to give him "pension reform" ok rahm pay the fund what is owed!
OT:
What's up with this citywide 10 hour day rumor bullshit?
Day shift 0530-1600, 0700-1730 or 0900-1930?
Nights 1630-0300, 1830-0500 or 2000-0630?
Are you kidding me?
Is that how they do it in New York?
Is this coming SCC?
Anonymous said...
Sellouts!
Always been one way
OT --
Obama The Fool
Obama says Europe should integrate Muslims to curb terrorism
"President Obama warned Europeans "not to simply respond with a hammer" in working against radicalization among its Muslim populations, and argued that the United States had an advantage on this front because American Muslims are better integrated into society."
http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-obama-muslims-20150116-story.html
Really? Try it in the real world --
Paris attacks prompt fears France's Muslim 'no-go' zones incubating jihad
Published January 12, 2015
"In hundreds of French "no-go" zones -- neighborhoods where neither tourists nor cops dare enter -- poor and alienated Muslims have intimidated the government into largely ceding authority over them, prompting fears that the kind of jihad that gave rise to last week's attack in Paris is festering unchecked.
"In some ways, these 751 areas designated by the French government -- officially called zones urbaines sensibles (sensitive urban zones), or ZUS, for short, but referred to as “no-go” zones by some observers -- resemble poor sections of America’s cities where gangs rule, crime and drugs are rampant and police only enter with significant backup. But in the wake of last week’s massacre at Charlie Hebdo and the fact that hundreds of radicalized Muslims who went to train or fight in Syria and Iraq could return, some experts fear the next terror attack will be launched from inside one of France's no-go zones."
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/01/12/paris-attacks-prompt-fears-france-muslim-no-go-zones-incubating-jihad/
The French government created these areas -- here is the official government atlas, town-by-town. Names, maps, demographics, everything.
http://sig.ville.gouv.fr/Atlas/ZUS/
Anonymous said...
From what I've read a concealed carry permit is a better deal than H.R.218 upon retirement. With HR 218 its $100 a year. With Concealed Carry its $150 for 5 years.
You can't Conceal and carry outside Illinois. HR218 you can go nationwide with your pistol.
Anonymous said...
How many more permits would there be if the asshole extortionists in Springfield hadn't set such an obscene permit fee? What if it were more in line with Utah, at say, $50?
1/17/2015 09:38:00 AM
Obscene? IROCC is obscene. We pay $100 a year for the right. Should be free. We earned it.
Anonymous said...
From what I've read a concealed carry permit is a better deal than H.R.218 upon retirement. With HR 218 its $100 a year. With Concealed Carry its $150 for 5 years.
1/17/2015 08:20:00 AM
Exactly.
Why do I keep hearing rumors of a city wide deployment of 10hr days! And why hasn't the union explained what I may like about and what I won't like about a 10hr day? Can we sink the the 10hr days before the city gives them to us?
You're an idiot !!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
From what I've read a concealed carry permit is a better deal than H.R.218 upon retirement. With HR 218 its $100 a year. With Concealed Carry its $150 for 5 years.
Do some research. The Ill CCW is only good in Illinois with all of the restrictions sited in the CCW act. The Permit issued under HR218 is good in every state and does not have as many restrictions.
Free city college for CPS student, vacant lots for sale $1.00 , only to people that live on the block , it all sounds like the working class is paying for this .
OT:
What's up with this citywide 10 hour day rumor bullshit?
Day shift 0530-1600, 0700-1730 or 0900-1930?
Nights 1630-0300, 1830-0500 or 2000-0630?
Are you kidding me?
Is that how they do it in New York?
Is this coming SCC?
I sure hope so, more time off with my family. Let's here the cry babies complain about long work day, kid issues, court, blah blah blah. Guess what we all have the same damn issues, get over it and make do.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
From what I've read a concealed carry permit is a better deal than H.R.218 upon retirement. With HR 218 its $100 a year. With Concealed Carry its $150 for 5 years.
Do some research. The Ill CCW is only good in Illinois with all of the restrictions sited in the CCW act. The Permit issued under HR218 is good in every state and does not have as many restrictions.
Wrong... You can carry in 22 other states, with more to come shortly.
Over 30 years ago my brother was jumped by a van full of guys while stopped at red light on his motorcycle. Luckily a man carrying a gun who was NOT the police stopped, pulled out that gun and scared the attackers away. My brother would probably have been beaten and robbed of the bike if this guy hadn't stopped to help. No report was made but i assure you it did happen. Fast forward 30 or so years and I can also assure you that crimes are being prevented by armed citizens who just like that guy didn't want to call the police and wait around and report it. Even with concealed carry available many citizens will not bother reporting incidents for lingering fears of the rabid anti-gun sentiment left over here in Chicago and cook county. 91,000 citizens carrying and how many of them have used their weapons to commit a crime? That in itself is a huge success.
Watch for this to happen...
A white potential victim of a robbery with a Concealed Carry Permit will shoot and kill a Black thug with a long record who was just turning his life around to be a rap star or brain surgeon who just wanted all he or she had or else.
When that happens Rahm and McNumbnuts will charge in and want to crucify the white victim and threaten the Detectives to bend the case to make it look like the victim is the offender and offender is the victim. They will hold press conferences and show the CCW holder's weapon.
They will RELEASE THE CCW HOLDER/VICTIM'S NAME, PHOTO and ADDRESS to the media.
Al Sharpton will smell money and fly into Chicago on a chartered jet while Black Lives Matter mobs will muster their forces and firebomb the white victim's home.
Chicago will be on the national news for this one person who defended him or herself from the Black thug who had his graduation photo on TV.
While this is going on dozens of other Black young men will be murdered semi-anonymously by other Black young men and be ignored by the media and the Al Sharpton extortionists and the Black Lives Matters folks.
If the you are the preliminary or follow-up investigator to such a case write the truth and don't let McNumbnuts force you to lie.
OT --
Updating one of the best comments I've heard here yet;
"We needed Charles 'The Hammer' Martel. We got 'Don't use a hammer' Barack Hussein Obama."
*
"A Muslim France? Historically, it nearly happened. But as a result of Martel’s fierce opposition, which ended Muslim advances and set the stage for centuries of war thereafter, Islam moved no farther into Europe. European schoolchildren learn about the Battle of Tours in much the same way that American students learn about Valley Forge and Gettysburg."
"Charles was that rarest of commodities in the Middle Ages: a brilliant strategic general, who also was a tactical commander par excellence, able in the heat of battle to adapt his plans to his foe's forces and movement — and amazingly, to defeat them repeatedly, especially when, as at Tours, they were far superior in men and weaponry, and at Berre and Narbonne, when they were superior in numbers of fighting men. Charles had the last quality which defines genuine greatness in a military commander: he foresaw the dangers of his foes, and prepared for them with care; he used ground, time, place, and fierce loyalty of his troops to offset his foe's superior weaponry and tactics; third, he adapted, again and again, to the enemy on the battlefield, shifting to compensate for the unforeseen and unforeseeable."
"Charles Martel's victory at Tours [732 A.D.] was among those signal deliverances which have affected for centuries the happiness of mankind."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Martel
...and here, a map of the "Islamic Caliphate" of that time -- which ISIS is trying to re-create and expand today.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Martel#mediaviewer/File:Age_of_Caliphs.png
You bet there's a bloodbath coming....where's my retro check ?
Let's see FOP you elect a guy who hasn't worked a beat car in over 20 yrs and what do,you got?
New squads being purchased as a contract issue? It's like telling firemen they have to bring their own water to fires....
A new 10.5 hrs day where if implemented city wide the dept. Looses 2,000 officers ( what happend to time and a half after 8.5 hr tour?)
Body cameras along with head worn cameras that record constantly, and can see everything. If your texting, going to the john, reading paper, writing a report, if captures everything. And it's all discoverable.
And this is being pushed by fop.....
Here come the body cameras THIS TUESDAY in 014 as the pilot district.
I laugh every time I hear about the body cams being issued here. Remember all the in-car cams issued? I can tell you that out of all the cars in the lot, maybe ONE camera actually works. The rest are broken or nonfunctioning with error messages, maxed out memory, and software problems rendered useless with repair ticket #s plastered all over the place. Same thing will happen with the body cams- they will work for one or two weeks then back on the shelf waiting for the one tech guy somewhere to fix it when he comes back from vacation.
If the bloodbath is inflicted on the thugs and punks then I say bring it on.
OT --
After Paris, NYPD expanding 'active shooter' training
Jan 16, 2015 2:28 PM CST
"NEW YORK (AP) - In the wake of the Paris terror attacks, New York's Police Department is quietly expanding training for "active shooter" situations in which terrorists arm themselves with high-powered rifles and open fire.
"Commissioner William Bratton says the new training for the nation's largest police force is based in part on lessons brought back from an NYPD team that was sent to Paris and given widespread access to the scene of the shootings.
"Bratton says every police officer will be given information to carry in their memo books on how to deal with active shooters.
"And he says more officers will be trained like the NYPD's elite Emergency Services Unit, which responds to the most dangerous situations, from shootings to terror attacks..."
CPD stocking up on canned soup to hurl at the offenders?
"-Hoosier Buddy"
1/17/2015 07:32:00 AM
...and God bless all y'all across the line there -- right at the starting line of Lake Effect Snow Country that ends -- like five feet deep -- in Buffalo, N.Y.
Going to Indiana from here is like re-entering the United States. Wonder why that is. >grin<
Stay safe.
Haven't looked at any of the ccw jargon so forgive my ignorance. Have any coppers got it to open up options of what they can carry off-duty? Are there restrictions on what can be carried?
-three bars & a boner
"And 91,000 crimes prevented, right?"
Well, according to Police Chief McDrunky, crime is down.
" IROCC is obscene. We pay $100 a year for the right. Should be free. We earned it."
Yes, I can tell by the lack of crime in Chicago. Thanks!
Anonymous 11th Dist King said...
Here come the body cameras THIS TUESDAY in 014 as the pilot district.
Just watch how I DO NOTHING liberals.
Body camera gonna show me driving in circles, taking lunch, driving in circles, taking a personal, driving in circles then flushing the toilet.
1/17/2015 05:57:00 AM
Body camera or no body camera, I am a worker. I am the working police and I will continue to work. The bosses love me and they told all of us hard working officers that as long as we follow the letter of the law and general orders, we will be fine. As long as I bring in a head or two and other activity, I will be fine. Have a nice day dog. A dog will be a dog no matter what circumstances are given to him or her.
Anonymous said...
From what I've read a concealed carry permit is a better deal than H.R.218 upon retirement. With HR 218 its $100 a year. With Concealed Carry its $150 for 5 years.
Do some research. The Ill CCW is only good in Illinois with all of the restrictions sited in the CCW act. The Permit issued under HR218 is good in every state and does not have as many restrictions.
1/17/2015 12:44:00 PM
22 other states recognize IL CCL. Get another state, like AZ or UT and you go to over 35. Restrictions have been minimal in reality.
These state recognize IL CCL:
Alabama
Alaska
Arizona
Arkansas
Idaho
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Kansas
Kentucky
Michigan
Mississippi
Missouri
Montana - added 7/31/2014
Nebraska - added 6/11/2014
Nevada - added 6/24/2014
North Carolina
Oklahoma
South Dakota
Tennessee
Utah
Vermont
Wisconsin - added 4/7/2014
This site shows what other states recognize the IL CCL. VERY easy to add another state's license to get many more states to legally carry in. Illinois won't recognize other states, but other states arent assholes like IL legislators.
http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/illinois.pdf
No more "open-borders" EU and US, with people playing hopscotch back and forth to the Middle East. Survivors should have their citizenship revoked and be deported.
"As many as 20 sleeper cells of between 120 and 180 people could be ready to strike in parts of Europe, a source tells CNN."
1/17/2015 07:13:00 AM
No passports or visas needed to pass from country to country. No border checkpoints. No immigration police. Europe has been open for years now with a very generous welfare system. Why sit home and brush your camel in the west bank where there is no welfare when you can go to Europe and get free apartments, food , medical care and some spending money? Maybe things will change now.
You can't Conceal and carry outside Illinois. HR218 you can go nationwide with your pistol.
1/17/2015 12:03:00 PM
Yes, true enough. But you better go nationwide with concealed carry insurance. About 200 bucks a year.And, be careful, in some states you cannot use hollow points even if you are retired and can be arrested.
My guess is less than 100 state wide. that is Quinns biggest legacy. that he refused the masses their rights.
fuck him
1/17/2015 08:10:00 AM
Wait. Quinn is not done with Illinois politics. I suspect he might run for US Senator.
The hours for the 10 hr Day are ridiculous. The nights are WORSE than Midnights. If we have this forced down our throats without a vote from Rank/File a Vote of NO CONFIDENCE should immediately be enacted against our Union. This is beyond selling us out and sets our work environment back 50 yrs.
Be advised....The Illinois C.C.W. is honored in 22 States and growing. C.C.W. and H.R.218 (Retired) are about equal on restrictions,it's just that many retired assume on the job rules still apply, most retired P.O.s and C.C.W. holders don't have much contact with law enforcement,and most on-duty P.O.s won't nit pick a retired guy on minor Boy Sam ( one would hope )
Here's a little laugh for you:
https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/news/cop-lip-synchs-taylor-swifts-shake-off-002536609.html
For those who say IL's concealed carry license is not recognized in MO and KY.
MO recognizes concealed weapons permits of every state that issues them.
http://ago.mo.gov/Concealed-Weapons/
KY recognizes all CCW permits, as well.
http://www.kentuckystatepolice.org/ccdw/reciprocity.html
Ohio has a revised CCW law that, effective in March (don't remember exact date) will now recognize permits from EVERY state that issues them.
OT
Did you see the good news Brietbart story re: the anonymous donor from Hong Kong who donated $1 million to the families of the 2 NY slain policemen? That is over and above the $800,000 raised previously. Decent, quiet, law abiding people - you gotta love 'em.
Fire Fighters Union endorses Rahm. Cant really say much more.
1/17/2015 09:07:00 AM
OK Firemen. Rahm walks into YOUR firehouses and tells you he is going to cut the pension YOU paid in to. Why the endorsement?
I work ten hour days and they suck!!! Trust me, you don't want them. Impossible to balance work and home life.
Anonymous 1/17/2015 12:03:00 PM said...
From what I've read a concealed carry permit is a better deal than H.R.218 upon retirement.
With HR 218 its $100 a year. With Concealed Carry its $150 for 5 years.
You can't Conceal and carry outside Illinois. HR218 you can go nationwide with your pistol.
I certainly hope that you're not a fuckin cop, because you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground.
Thanks to reciprocity and recognition the IL carry permit is recognized in 23 states...
Yes the IROCC gets you all 50, but if you're carrying a badge you should get a better grip on what the IL permit actually does....
Retro?
The class is cheaper in Florida
Have any of the Daley's applied?
From what I've read a concealed carry permit is a better deal than H.R.218 upon retirement. With HR 218 its $100 a year. With Concealed Carry its $150 for 5 years.
1/17/2015 08:20:00 AM
Exactly.
It is cheaper, but LEs are not covered by concealed and carry restrictions such as not having your pistol at hospitals, bars, schools etc. I would rather pay more and not have the restrictions of CCL.
Richard Daley of Tur Partners predicted shoot outs on MI Ave. What an idiot. Good guys with guns pose no risk.
MS
another plus with ccw, vs hr218, is you can qualify with your duty glock, and carry any other gun....your permit unlike with hr 218, is not tied to the gun, as well, as you don't have to qualify yearly.
Concealed carry applications fall far short of projections
Applications for gun permits surged early in 2014 but began to decline by year's end.
By Erin Hegarty
ehegarty@dailyherald.com
Even though the Chicago area accounts for most of the population in Illinois, fewer than half the applications to
legally carry a concealed weapon have come from Chicago and the suburbs.
http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20150116/news/150119028/
Anyone see any problems here?
"Perceived Carry Decoys is a veteran owned entity that offers the worlds first and only way to exercise your 2nd amendment right, without the stigma or concerns associated with owning a gun."
http://pcdcarry.com/
rb
Isn't it sad that the donor from Hong Kong obviously showed support for the police and our own government threw us police officers as a whole under the bus.
"Europe has been open for years now with a very generous welfare system...free apartments, food, medical care and some spending money..."
1/17/2015 05:44:00 PM
...and by way of gratitude, you get...
The Islamization of France
January 6, 2014 at 4:30 am
"Who has the right to say that France in thirty or forty years will not be a Muslim country? Who has the right in this country to deprive us of it?"
— Marwan Muhammed, spokesman, Collective Against Islamophobia in France (CCIF), Paris
"The Muslim population of France reached an estimated 6.5 million in 2013...approximately 10% of the country's total population of around 66 million. In real terms, France has the largest Muslim population in the European Union.
"On January 1, 2013, Interior Minister Manuel Valls announced that a total of 1,193 cars and trucks were torched across France on New Year's Eve. He also said he was "shocked" by an RTL Radio report which estimated that more than 40,000 cars are burned in France every year.
"Valls broke with recent tradition by publicly announcing the number of car burnings because "the French people should know the truth." His predecessor, Interior Minister Brice Hortefeux, decided in 2010 to stop making public the number of car burnings because doing so had the effect of encouraging competition between rival gangs of Muslim youths, determined to see which of them could cause the most destruction.
"Car burnings are increasingly commonplace in all French cities and are often attributed to shiftless young Muslims who reside in suburban slums known as banlieues. French authorities are especially eager to avoid a repetition of the riots in 2005, when the deaths of two Muslim teenagers in the banlieue of Clichy-sous-Bois near Paris sparked weeks of looting and car-burning, and led to the imposition of a state of emergency..."
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4120/islamization-france
...and this year...
"01/01/2015 PARIS (AP) — France’s Interior Ministry says 940 cars were set alight [New Year's Eve]...particularly in the east, as well as in suburban Paris, notably the Seine-Saint-Denis region — where fiery [Muslim] riots around France started in 2005."
"...in some states you cannot use hollow points even if you are retired and can be arrested."
1/17/2015 05:46:00 PM
State going to be liable for injuries to others caused by through-and-through overpenetration, s__t bouncing all over, unreliable stops, etc.?
Better 19 rds. of hot military ball gets discharged, right? Boy, that's stupid.
OK. Fallback. Old Bulldog w/240 gr. flat-point, soft lead. Elmer was right...
Cant
Carry
Wherever
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
From what I've read a concealed carry permit is a better deal than H.R.218 upon retirement. With HR 218 its $100 a year. With Concealed Carry its $150 for 5 years.
1/17/2015 08:20:00 AM
Also you are subject to the same gun laws as everyone else,you are no longer special.
Those no gun zones apply to you.
You can't Conceal and carry outside Illinois. HR218 you can go nationwide with your pistol.
1/17/2015 12:03:00 PM
WRONG.Plenty of States recognize the IL permit now and its growing.
Anonymous said...
How many more permits would there be if the asshole extortionists in Springfield hadn't set such an obscene permit fee? What if it were more in line with Utah, at say, $50?
1/17/2015 09:38:00 AM
It should be 0 $.You cannot charge for a RIGHT guaranteed under the US Constitution.
Body camera or no body camera, I am a worker. I am the working police and I will continue to work. The bosses love me and they told all of us hard working officers that as long as we follow the letter of the law and general orders, we will be fine. As long as I bring in a head or two and other activity, I will be fine. Have a nice day dog. A dog will be a dog no matter what circumstances are given to him or her.
1/17/2015 05:15:00 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^TOOL^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It is cheaper, but LEs are not covered by concealed and carry restrictions such as not having your pistol at hospitals, bars, schools etc. I would rather pay more and not have the restrictions of CCL.
1/17/2015 11:28:00 PM
Yes they are,Once RETIRED you are a civilian and subject to law.You would be placing yourself in a legal trick bag otherwise.
and most on-duty P.O.s won't nit pick a retired guy on minor Boy Sam ( one would hope )
1/17/2015 07:27:00 PM
Dont bet on it in todays political environment.Old school types are not very common.
and most on-duty P.O.s won't nit pick a retired guy on minor Boy Sam ( one would hope )
1/17/2015 07:27:00 PM
Like the guy that just got popped at the airport.
http://www.handgunlaw.us/
Anonymous said...
Anonymous 11th Dist King said...
Here come the body cameras THIS TUESDAY in 014 as the pilot district.
Just watch how I DO NOTHING liberals.
Body camera gonna show me driving in circles, taking lunch, driving in circles, taking a personal, driving in circles then flushing the toilet.
1/17/2015 05:57:00 AM
Body camera or no body camera, I am a worker. I am the working police and I will continue to work. The bosses love me and they told all of us hard working officers that as long as we follow the letter of the law and general orders, we will be fine. As long as I bring in a head or two and other activity, I will be fine. Have a nice day dog. A dog will be a dog no matter what circumstances are given to him or her.
1/17/2015 05:15:00 PM
Yes Child, the bosses love you. My guess is you haven't been screwed by one yet. Your heart hasn't been hardened by all the nonsense yet. The bosses love me....The bosses love me. Can't wait until you wake up.
To our Hoosier buddy-
I'm retiring soon and have decided on either Indiana or Wisconsin for retirement. I love Wisconsin but Wisconsin has the liberal shitholes of Milwaukee and Madison. What about Indiana that would make it less desirable (besides Gary) as fas as shithead infested liberal areas go? Are there any?
That's retarded, does every cop or soldier who has a gun murder their spouse or commit suicide? Last I checked this is still somewhat America and the people should all have a right to defend themselves and their family. Close minded liberals like yourself who thinks that guns commit crime on their own would make everyone an easy victim. Chicago is the murder haven in the US, but the
sat major city to pass CC.
I have noticed that alot of theft reports are coming through the pipe.
Guns alot of them being lost,stolen from cars, and just simply disappearing.
May be a new UCR code is needed to keep track of this.
Cmon Garry you can scare all the Rev-runs by telling them the number on Guns on the street being stolen.
just a thought I carry mine all day everyday.
Yes, I can tell by the lack of crime in Chicago. Thanks!
1/17/2015 04:59:00 PM
Fuck off. That's due to the politics that create hordes of unmanageable miscreants and the laws that keep them from just punishment. Not the efforts of CPD.
"Bratton says every police officer will be given information to carry in their memo books on how to deal with active shooters."
He also stated canned food drives will be redirected and the cans given to subway riders so that they can have weapons to throw at the terrorists should they attack. snark/off.
Anonymous said...
The hours for the 10 hr Day are ridiculous. The nights are WORSE than Midnights. If we have this forced down our throats without a vote from Rank/File a Vote of NO CONFIDENCE should immediately be enacted against our Union. This is beyond selling us out and sets our work environment back 50 yrs.
Clown I will vote yes more days off with my family bottom line
You can't Conceal and carry outside Illinois. HR218 you can go nationwide with your pistol.
1/17/2015 12:03:00 PM
Yes, true enough. But you better go nationwide with concealed carry insurance. About 200 bucks a year.And, be careful, in some states you cannot use hollow points even if you are retired and can be arrested.
Who offers concealed carry insurance?
"I have noticed that a lot of theft reports are coming through the pipe.
"Guns a lot of them being lost,stolen from cars, and just simply disappearing."
1/18/2015 10:08:00 AM
Well, what did you expect? Every other place has a red "No Guns" sticker on it, so people were told "Leave your gun in your car when you go in there."
Bad enough -- but what if someone doesn't have a car at all? Just U-lock your pistol to the light pole outside the "L" station you board at, and it will be there when you come back at 7 PM.
I ga-ron-tee.
"Perceived Carry Decoys is a veteran owned entity that offers the worlds first and only way to exercise your 2nd amendment right, without the stigma or concerns associated with owning a gun."
1/18/2015 02:17:00 AM
He's re-invented the toy gun!
Slogan -- "Perception is reality!" Like hell it is.
"After all, who's going to run up on a person with a gun?"
Plenty of idiots. Even run up on uniformed police officers and start wrestling them for the weapon (Jeff Park transit station, some years ago. Ferguson, MO, some months ago. Etc.)
"I have noticed that a lot of theft reports are coming through the pipe.
"Guns a lot of them being lost,stolen from cars, and just simply disappearing."
1/18/2015 10:08:00 AM
Well, what did you expect? Every other place has a red "No Guns" sticker on it, so people were told "Leave your gun in your car when you go in there."
Bad enough -- but what if someone doesn't have a car at all? Just U-lock your pistol to the light pole outside the "L" station you board at, and it will be there when you come back at 7 PM.
I ga-ron-tee.
1/18/2015 12:00:00 PM
People should just carry their guns in these anti-gun establishments anyway. Who's going to know? It's not like they can search you. Unless they want to install metal detectors and hire security to work them, there's no way they can ever know you're carrying.
91000 potential suicides?????? Hell, police officers are near or at the top of suicides committed according to livelihood.... What an Idiot. I guess we should make cops leave their guns at work when they are off duty.... midway tom
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"I have noticed that a lot of theft reports are coming through the pipe.
"Guns a lot of them being lost,stolen from cars, and just simply disappearing."
1/18/2015 10:08:00 AM
Well, what did you expect? Every other place has a red "No Guns" sticker on it, so people were told "Leave your gun in your car when you go in there."
Bad enough -- but what if someone doesn't have a car at all? Just U-lock your pistol to the light pole outside the "L" station you board at, and it will be there when you come back at 7 PM.
I ga-ron-tee.
1/18/2015 12:00:00 PM
>WHIIRRR-BRRZZZZZZZZT!<
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"...in some states you cannot use hollow points even if you are retired and can be arrested."
1/17/2015 05:46:00 PM
State going to be liable for injuries to others caused by through-and-through overpenetration, s__t bouncing all over, unreliable stops, etc.?
Better 19 rds. of hot military ball gets discharged, right? Boy, that's stupid.
OK. Fallback. Old Bulldog w/240 gr. flat-point, soft lead. Elmer was right...
1/18/2015 05:41:00 AM
Pick up an old big bore S&W and have it cut down to 2.75/3.0 inches.
There isn't a revolver to be had for reasonably sane money that has an action as smooth and sweet as a S&W.
Idea?
Bobbed hammer, have the adjustable rear sight removed the top strap cut with a notch & groove for a fixed front sight replaced with a tritium big dot...
S&W and Colt used to make big bore coat pocket revolvers a-plenty. You don't see too many for sale because right minded people tend to hang on to Great Grand-Dad's 100+ year old big bore Colt or Smith.
Ruger has one as a TALO special order but it's so damn heavy and over-built... Nothing inherently WRONG with a .44 Magnum blaster but for social work, the .44 Special and .45 Colt with 240 to 270 grain gas-checked lead hollowpoint or Keith slugs are the cat's ass for eyeball to eyeball self defense scenarios...
No brass laying around either...
Shoot, scoot, lawyer up and keep your mouth shut.
Yeah...
Elmer knew his business.
And, be careful, in some states you cannot use hollow points even if you are retired and can be arrested.
Who offers concealed carry insurance?
1/18/2015 10:59:00 AM
You can use JHP per LEOSA,that was changed a while back due to NJ.
From what I've read a concealed carry permit is a better deal than H.R.218 upon retirement.
With HR 218 its $100 a year. With Concealed Carry its $150 for 5 years.
You can't Conceal and carry outside Illinois. HR218 you can go nationwide with your pistol.
I certainly hope that you're not a fuckin cop, because you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground.
Yes the IROCC gets you all 50, but if you're carrying a badge you should get a better grip on what the IL permit actually does....
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Get a grip?
Grip this- IROCC is $75.00 for either a revolver OR a semi-auto. If you want to carry BOTH, then it's $100.
There are more citizens than Police walking around with guns!
This is nothing, there are 1.3 million potential prostitutes in the city of Chicago alone. Think about that. In your children's school, in the police department, in the mayor's office, at the local fast food joint, on the bus...potential prostitutes! Isn't it terrible? What's the world coming to?
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