Hey Barb, You Want to Chime In?
You thought Maria was the only one?
- Well, Lil Barb has been in Command of 011 for just a few weeks and she and captain Lemon head are now attacking the 2nd watch.
Today a Veteran PO was told he is no longer on a certain car because he did not bring in enough contact cards for the period. His punishment for not meeting the Monthly QUOTA FOR CONTACT CARDS was a new start time and assignment.
I was unaware that there was a minimum quota for monthly contact cards?
Next time I see captain Lemon head I am going to ask him, " Captain, what is the required number of contact cards that you require form me each month"?
And Barb you of all people should know that requiring Officers to violate someone's constitutional rights for a simple contact card for you monthly comstat meeting is against the law.
To all my fellow officers in 011, just do the minimum to get vri and no more. If no one does any more than 5 per month then what will Barb and Lemonhead do?
Stand together like NYPD did against mayor William Wilhelm, oh, I mean his new name billy deeblasio.
And lt kj, you sir are a turd
Can the brass in 025 and 011 require an actual number of Contact Cards? Is that a quota? Or are we misunderstanding the word "quota"?
Labels: department issues, from the comments
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
139 Comments:
Give them all the contact cards they want, just write across the card refused in area that ids name and address. It is in the Order that that is what the procedure is when the subject refuses, based on constitutional right, to give name and address. Can't force people to give name and address.
You want to stand together and send a message, then follow the Order and write refused.
And there you have it in his own words... Don't do anything except enough for vri. This guy wants to give some big breaking news and create some big stand but please do enough for vri. It's blood money and you just proved how soft you really are and how addicted to it you are. Falling right into rahms plan. You don't send a message by doing enough for vri because that is actually still more than normal. You wanna hurt you do what nypd did zero! If everyone gets 3 arrest in the whole district and 5 contact cards and 5 Parkers each month that's still a lot of arrests. 300 officers getting 3 arrests for the month is 900 arrests. 1500 Parkers and 1500 contact cards.. Yeah u send a real clear message with that. Stop being fake. You do zeros or keep your mouth shut. Do enough for vri... Laughable
Does anyone here know of any bosses kid who doesn't think they are untouchable or are gods gift. I know a few.. They do nothing but talk about how daddy is gonna do this for them and how daddy is gonna get them that spot or has to tell everyone they meet that their dad was a boss. Three former bosses kids work in my district and do nothing but flaunt it and tell everyone how set they are gonna be. Is this normal. Mind you all three of these guys have less than 4 years on and are clueless about doing any sort of police work. God help us if the follow in daddy's footsteps. Then again, I do know of one guy who's dad was a great boss who keeps to himself and is a good guy.. But most seem like pompous arrogant strokes. Royalty
Call the media and the federal civil rights commission..... They will make it an issue
This is all correct. Masters clearly told the 3rd watch that we have to do 2 contact cards per day. That is a quota. But the new people don't care and they will continue to do what the bosses want. Between the idiot team of masters,west, and Sgt Barnett , 3rd watch is fucked and will be for a very long time.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
In 25 it's funny, 4 Sgt enter roll call but not as many say around to work the street ot handle check off. But when a po needs time on the end no Sgt lifts a finger for his troops. You want activity now!?????!?????? Part time work for part time sgt's
2/13/2015 04:46:00 PM
rumor has it that maria has found out that the sgts on 3 watch work 4 hours a day. word from downtown is that she is trying to have swipe in and swipe out pilot program to 025. maria thinks that if sgts were around the whole tour to supervise there would be less shootings.
problem is that there might be 5 sgts on the schedule and only 2 on the street.
Unfucking believable. What has 011 come too. I was there 27 years ago and it was the best place to work. Since I left 011 I have never experienced the camaraderie as I have when I worked there. I have been lucky enough to be in specialized units and it has never been the same. Why must these bosses fuck with the working police in the worst area's of the city.
Being a police officer is one of the most demanding unappreciative jobs in the world. we deal with the public at their worst and they beat us up, the media beats us up, the politicians and legal system treat us like shit and now we have boss who do the same. we spent nights holidays away from family, we do things that most cant. going to work use to be fun and rewarding by now with Barb and Mario work is like a prison. they treat us no better then the savages that we deal with and probably would back them before backing us. don't know what it will take but if we work in numbers and stick together maybe downtown will take action and move the worthless people and things can go back to normal.
Couldn't a contact card quota lead to charges by citizens of violating the Fourth Amendment? Even though SCOTUS has found an officer's "reasonable mistake of law" can give rise to "reasonable suspicion," I sure wouldn't want to go there with contact cards on the public way.
Not good. You are talking mutiny and insurrection. The top brass may be out of line and they may be silly or crazy and they may be wrong, but they are still the top brass. All you can do is say "yes sir/yes ma'am" and wait for better days.
What does the union say about this?
On the contrary people are going to start doing more contact cards because they don't want to get booted out of a certain car and start time.
Why don't you stand with your fellow officers and not work VRI, ya fuckin mush.
It's really rather very simple...
If/when you're talked to regarding your activity, demand - IN WRITING - what they expect of you in terms of quantity of Contact Cards per day/week/period.
Unless they're brain dead (which is a distinct possibility considering the players involved), they won't dare put pen to paper with such an asinine edict.
Then document, document, and document some more any change in the norm regarding partners, start times, details, etcetera. Pull and print-out your Unit History via the PCAD system at days end to have documentation showing how those 10, 12, or 15+ service calls prohibited you from doing any kind of proactive policing. While management has some leeway to fuck with your start times and such, any obvious and/or excessive deviations from your normal routine and treatment following being counseled should be extensively documented. At minimum, pimpy-assed moves like the one described circumvent the whole "progressive discipline" thingy - one might argue the Bossholes started out on the high end of the scale. A court of law might see such deliberate acts as retaliation. Moving on...
while any kind of proveable work action/slowdown can get you in hot water, if the majority of you guys and gals in 011 and 025 (and anywhere else afflicted with the ignorance of overpromoted, never-been-the-police hacks) don't get the opportunity to make the twice-daily mandatory observations where you'd "reasonably infer[s] from the circumstances that the person is committing, is about to commit or has committed an offense...", you really can't legally justify writing those silly little cards that the brass love to hang their hats on at CompStat.
And don't let them tell you (as MY triple-merit Captain told us just yesterday) that contact cards can be written on people you casually interact with. Seems all these Stupidvisors have failed to notice that S.O. S-04-13-09, "Contact Information System", was revised just this past 07 Jan 15. It now "discontinues the routine documentation of Citizen Encounters" (Section I, C.). So C.C.ing that dude waiting for the bus or that lady walking out of the dry cleaners has the potential to get you jammed-up just as quick.
Keep in mind that your oath as a law enforcement officer entails upholding the Constitution. And all you assholes pushing this contact card agenda need to review the following excerpt from the aforementioned S.O.:
III. Policy
A. Department members are responsible for ensuring public safety by deterring and responding to crime. They are also responsible for upholding the rights guaranteed to the public under the United States Constitution, the State of Illinois Constitution, and the law. Safeguarding the liberties of the public and preventing crime are not mutually exclusive; each can be achieved by fostering trust and confidence between Department members and the public. Members will comport with the policy and procedures of this order to ensure appropriate conduct when interacting with members of the public.
I don't know about you, but the Constitution I'm sworn to uphold trumps bullshit, mindless numbers-driven activity any - and every - fuckin' day.
To the tough guy saying he will ask Lemmer what the quota is. Yeah right! You are a stroke! Lemmer has never hurt anybody but if your a dog ass which u clearly are, hes going to call you out. Lemmer has helped more then he has hurt!
The FOP is kinda reminds me of that virus protection program you download on the internet to protect your computer - it says its working but you don't know for sure if it actually is working; or how it works;or when it works yet you have this feeling that it actually is just a scam and your just getting screwed in the long run !!! FOP wanna address the Contact Card activity requests ?
Wow, you took the words right from my mouth.
Amen
Goodnight
We are being threatened with retaliation by 1100 and 1100x on all watches if we don't go out and get these contact cards for them. 1100 and 1100x are forcing officers to stop people illegally and violate their civil rights just so they can have another shot at getting promoted again. When will the media pick up on this?
i wanna see this quota. was buscemi or pillow girl or anyone dumb enough to put that in writing? C/O book? in the counseling form online? i know buscemi was dumb enough to deny a guy time and actually write NOT ENOUGH ACTIVITY on the slip as the reason denied. yeah lemmer we have the original and copies of several just like it. dumb dumb dumb. cant wait for him and masters and johnson to have to answer the eeoc beef theyre all on. kudos to sgt sh!!!
Lt. KJ is a turd? His MERIT Tact Lt. brother isn't far from that and neither is the Commander of 003 who have further ruined the District and specifically the Tact teams. Close to 40 Officers have bailed out of 003 (shitload from Tact) in less than a year or so and now they are going to be forced to fill the teams via reverse seniority. Take a look at the AMC message begging people to put in for Tact. Most of the teams are filled with two year wonders because they can't get anyone to fill the spots and the ones there are doing it are only doing it to get off of 1st watch for a while until they can bid out. Most of the Sgt.'s in 003 are actively seeking to leave because what was a shit hole is now a bigger shit hole. The decent supervisors was what made 003 tolerable. Jones, the XO (currently in Quantico Command school), the Tact Lt. and the 1st watch Lt.'s have killed what was left of any morale. They have no people skills and have ZERO idea of what it means to take care of their people in order to keep them happy and productive. Simply asking for a day off is like pulling teeth or asking for your first born in Tact and watch. The previous administration (Evans, Lemmer, Blisett, Kingsley) wasn't perfect but things seemed to work much, much better and people were definetly much more happier. Watch for how many Sgt.'s and PO's leave 003 in the next upcoming period or two. I hear ALL of the Tact Sgt.'s are trying to leave. I have a decent one, however his hands are tied with all of the micromanagement but he does his best to try and take care of his people. I can't believe none of the bean counters at 35th Street look at this shit and say WTF is going on over there? Anyhow, it's getting pretty late and I'm tired. Have a good night ya'll! I'm out, so I can do it all over again tomorrow in the shithole of a District.
CPD Leadership is an oxymoron.
Next case.
Barb is truly clueless. She would spend 12 to 16 hours a day in 015, she never left. I thought she would have had a breakdown of some sort before she left 015. Perhaps this is the beginning. When will these dick heads learn that none of this shit matters. If you work in 015 or 011 especially on midnights, the assholes we come across have been contact carded dozens of times. The contact card does have some purpose ,if a call comes out and an individual is in the area that matches the description and you don't have enough to arrest them on, yeah contact card them and maybe something will pop on them in the future. Please, enough of the bullshit already, just let us do our jobs you'll be amazed at what will happen. This is the worse policing strategy ever meaningless mindless drivel.
Barb West is a true leader in this Department. I loved her when she was West-Givens and I love her even more now. It would serve the Department well if we had more leaders like Commander Barbara West.
There are just too many damn lazy do nothing people in the Chicago Police Department. I will do everything in my power to ensure she's a Deputy Chief by the end of the year. You folks might as well get on board, because she ain't going anywhere anytime soon.
20 and out boys and girls I did it and Iam a happy guy
Off topic, Anyone know if it's true, Ohare tact elite bs now in 22 spent a grand on Sgt uniforms but never took the test? Dugans covered up all his screw-ups please tell us that bs aka Dumbo will not be a boss!
How is asking someone for their name violating their rights? If they refuse they refuse. You need to reread the order on contact cards. Remember if you ever want to slowdown the department do it by their orders, it would be impossible to get much work done if you follow the orders!
Is the new head of CPD inspectors Capt Ruth , who drove her unmarked CPD car on a active runway nearly causing to jets to collide into each other just to greet Elton John, gaining national news and humiliating the city and dept? Who is her juice, and why is she on the job?
How about bringing in NONE. I wouldn't like some cop stopping me and putting my info on a card. Back in the day we would just use a phone book for names and make up the rest. Screw the city who are willing to throw us to the wolves for any reason at all.
Google Adrian Schoolcraft. NYPD Officer who carried a digital recorder and recorded his entire shift for a couple of years.
He was under a lot of pressure to "keep the numbers up." That resulted in many bullshit arrests (illegal) and bullshit stops. (also illegal)
You can get a nice, compact digital recorder for a reasonable price. Buy a couple. Get one for the whole district. McLush came out of that police department. Hammer the assholes with their own words. Let them read themselves in the Sun-Times or The Reader or Federal Court.
I so wish we could all ban together. Even if it was a watch, not a whole dept. Too many cry babies I need this I need that. We are our own worst enemies. If the second watch of 011 could for ONE WEEK, just one week come in with zeros West would go insane.
Officers on the second watch, I ask you to join me in doing nothing for a week. If you need vri then do it another week, can we stick together for just 7 days.
Hey Al the burger king, you do nothing anyway so it won't be a problem for you!!!
Doing a contact card is not violating any constitutional right. The police can stop and talk to anyone they want. The people are free to leave absent any reasonable articulable suspicion to the contrary. But let's not couch being lazy old timer with being some constitutional rights crusader. Honestly, it is not that difficult to keep these people off your back. Why do we need a NYPD style work stoppage? We just got a contract that WE ratified, the mayor just came out in the news in SUPPORT of us, it seems like NY style work stoppage is the default Pavlovian response to any time one guy or gal doesn't get his or her way. Like it or not the 1st and 16th are consideration for doing your job...not showing up and sitting on your ass all day. Sorry but I'm not buying it. I know Lemmer, and he is a tool, but how would you handle a lazy do nothing malcontent who is taking up space in the watch, not doing shit, and is protected by Union and labor laws? I would do exactly what was done.
Where is the union? Hello?
Dean... This would be a great opportunity to make a statement. This moment, right now. You could champion it & take all the credit.
Show the membership you have some balls and you're not afraid to stand up to a couple of girls like West & Pena.
Our membership should call the fop and ask nicely what the union is planning to do? When we get lip service we can come back on the blog and tal about the ball(less) leadership taking our dues.
Warren Wilhelm Jr
How about don't sign up for VRI
By quota do you mean having to do more than zero? So what you are saying is that you can show up to work and do nothing everyday? And then when they take you off your car you will beef? Ever since I started you came in with some numbers nobody bothered you. You didn't bring in anything or the bare minimum you got messed with.
Why even do enough for VRI? If you really want to stick it to them, have nobody sign up for VRI! Quit chasing money, it doesn't solve everything.
019 does it. Demands 5 from the beat cars; 10 from tact. The Capt told the roll calls the other day.
KJ is just interested in the next undeserved promotion! You end up in federal court he gets promoted again. They should put the desired quota on paper and sign it.
You know Lt. KJ came to the watch shortly before Babs. After her arrival, he asked for an increase in contact cards for Babs. We supported him and her with a really good increase in the number of cards completed. But then 1100X (bleed them to death Lem) had to take it to a new level. Instead of that being enough, more was demanded. When people said "enough is enough" a well orchestrated plan of "retaliation" was initiated against all officers of all three watches. Now Epic Fail is the operating mindset.
A Dept. can request a specific number / level of activity from each officer. However, the Dept. can not issue discipline if that level of activity is not obtained. The question has always been, what constitutes "discipline"? Is a change of start time or assignment change considered discipline? Point being is the Dept. walks that line and unless someone files a lawsuit like that officer Schoolcraft did against the NYPD none of this is going to matter.
Those two were made for each other.
FOP told third watch they can. Third watch Lt says you have to have two a day
The dogs always thing by throwing out the word "quota" that all of the bosses immediately cower. They don't. Theses a phrase "expected minimum activity" or "below the watch average". Neither one is a quota, just an average number of contact cards per officer on a particular watch. You are either u above the watch average or below it. The activity of the officers on the watch (your peers) set the height of the bar.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
You referred to 025 as "working" district. As if 010, her last stop, isn't. Though it doesn't get the mention of say...007 or 011, 010 is far and away one of the busiest (working) districts. Click over to Zone 10 sometimes. Most days, 010 has more shit going than 011.
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Actually 010 isn't busier than 011, its just that some of the POs won't and some sergeants won't shut the fuck up. They feel the need to go into detail about every little thing and unnecessarily tying up the air with nonsense. Stop trying to justify why you aren't doing your job over the air. Just code the damn thing. People have been complaining about this for decades. But please 010, just shut the fuck up already and code it. And stop coming over the air like there is an emergency and then ask for lunch. Also for the 1000th time, shitheads fighting each other is not an emergency. Again please shut the fuck up already.
2/13/2015 09:12:00 PM
Oh please the only reason that 011 would be busier on the air then 010 is because of that blow hard Kujo on 3rd watch. He is the King of what you just typed about 010. That guy takes up more air time on coding and getting out of a job the all of 010 combined. The reason for a code is so you don't explain what you're doing. That does not mean you give the code and THEN a 5 minute dissertation on the reason for the code.
Welcome to the World of Lemmer. Its his way or the highway, just like he did in 023/019 and he will continue to do it every district he visits. If you give him one more item than last month he considers victory over the PO. And that feeds his ego.
You know the game.... They will talk it but, they won't put it on paper
Come on everybody knows CPD doesn't use quotas they use indexes which are the exact same thing.
Someone needs to spoon feed this information to the media.
Ask the Commander to put the exact number of cards per period in writing, the wont.
Sounds like he's a dog. Not very hard in 011 to make stop on someone up to no good. The two bosses their are meatheads - but if you have to give them a little activity to keep them happy and off your ass - then he should have done it. Any "veteran" officer should know how to play the game.
Either do what they say, or don't.
Just stop bitching.
Bitching is never a solution to a problem.
Make her put it on paper, record roll call, cover your ass, officers so she can't say "I never said that" hold her accountable like the girl in 25!
we should get those new body cameras and at roll call record her while she is demanding everyone to get 2 contact cards.
officers in 025 are being told to bring in 2 per car. And they must be on your beat. Seems like contact cards are important then arrests.
it was stated by a certain Lt at roll call the "standard " is 1 card per day per car
For the love of God, most of you officers don't know how good you have it. You guys are making $80,000 per year and you complain about doing a couple of contact cards or parkers. Or God forbid if you have to transport a prisoner to the hospital for medical attention. It amazes me that every night at check off the same characters come in with zero activity across the board. Just do what the bosses want. It's that simple. Don't make things harder than it is. If times get difficult then you have no one to blame but yourselves. Act like children and you will be treated like children. The bottom line- be professional, follow orders and don't complain. If you think this job is hard try working at Burger King.
Your in the arm pit of the world (11 dist). You don't have commander's contact card numbers and your punished. Let me ask, what the fuck can they do to you. In a shit hole of a district some fucked up comm and her lemon head capt. changing starting times and your assigment in a shit-hole. I would do nothing. Nothing, just pick-up your check on the 1st. and the 16th. Fuck the department.
I'm Commander Barb West and when I had trouble sleeping in the squad car on midnights I'd just bring along My Pillow.
My Pillow has been certified by the National Sleep Foundation and me!
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Barb West and Maria Pena's life have revolved around quotas. Their careers are based on quotas. It's all they know.
There are lazy officers in every district. That is not fair to the hardworking coppers or even the average officer as we end up doing their work. Sometimes, a change of scenery is a good thing for everyone. Dont protect the slugs !
Are they telling you to do contact cards or are they asking you to do a certain number of contact cards??. Maybe stretching the truth a bit sounds like. Anyone who can't find legit contact cards to write in 011,,,,well enough said. Easier to complain than to do your job.
LT KJ on 2nd watch is so far the best boss 011 has ever had!
BS in a lot of districts, these fuckin LT, Sgt, ask for Contact Cards and Activity.. But when a PO ask to put in a slip they act like its a fuckin Sin...... Hey Jagoff Boss it's my time !!!!! Go fuck your self, Tell no I cant have it off then expect my medical call
#012
Interesting - and still viable quote:
"I got nothing against the honest cop on the beat. You just have them transferred someplace where they can't do you any harm. But don't ever talk to me about the honor of police captains or judges. If they couldn't be bought they wouldn't have the job."
Al Capone -
Real Quotes -
http://www.mistercapone.com/quotes.htm
To all those deriding the "dog,"
The officer in question had 10 case reports, 5 arrests, numerous movers and contact cards for the "Evaluated week" - just no contact cards on his beat, because as a military vet and decent guy, he rides on everyone else's jobs to provide back-up to all the 10-99 units on days.
He's a good cop, 19 years on, and a decent fucking human being who was counseled and removed from the car the same fucking day without any chance to explain or step up to the plate.
Lemmer's a fucking jag, but Johnson pulled this one all by himself to suck up to Lemmer and prove what a tough guy he is.
I don't understand people saying that their only way to get a contact card is to violate civil rights... is it that you're blind and don't see any violations or you don't know the law?
Doing a contact card is not violating any constitutional right. The police can stop and talk to anyone they want. The people are free to leave absent any reasonable articulable suspicion to the contrary. But let's not couch being lazy old timer with being some constitutional rights crusader. Honestly, it is not that difficult to keep these people off your back. Why do we need a NYPD style work stoppage? We just got a contract that WE ratified, the mayor just came out in the news in SUPPORT of us, it seems like NY style work stoppage is the default Pavlovian response to any time one guy or gal doesn't get his or her way. Like it or not the 1st and 16th are consideration for doing your job...not showing up and sitting on your ass all day. Sorry but I'm not buying it. I know Lemmer, and he is a tool, but how would you handle a lazy do nothing malcontent who is taking up space in the watch, not doing shit, and is protected by Union and labor laws? I would do exactly what was done.
2/14/2015 06:58:00 AM
You must work somewhere tucked FAR away from the streets. You cannot do a contact card on anyone anymore, its been that way for a year or so. A contact card can only be completed for investigatory stops, aka resonable suspicion.
Thing about Lemmer is that if you are a worker and bring in activity he will still make your life miserable because you aren't doing the activity HE wants done. You could get a felony pinch every day but if it is not the activity that HE deems necessary for the dept.s goals HE will change your start time, car etc..... When he was in 023 he dumped so many coppers off their cars we had like 10 coppers working the late wagon (1800 hr) start, of course HE couldn't put all of them on a wagon but they were all working late. Not to mention the list HE had of coppers HE would not allow to work together. He also had coppers sign a form, that HE wrote up, where the coppers gave up their contractual rights about start times. HE wanted to start coppers at 1900 and 2000 hrs on 3rd watch and quite a number of coppers signed these forms until MLA called and said can't do dat........question for you 011 district guys, does Lemmer still design and use His own forms for missions, activity, etc.... With His own form number and date in the lower left corner? Does He still put out his top 10 list with individuals He says must be stoped whenever spotted on the street? Remember if you end up the subject of a lawsuit because of His demands to aquire contact cards and activity illegally you can be assured He will not be sitting next to you in federal court. All of you in 011 have my sympathies, remember to document and get any evidence you can in can you need it, good luck....
"officers in 025 are being told to bring in 2 per car. And they must be on your beat. Seems like contact cards are important then arrests".
Thats every district. Ladies and gents wake up. The bosses on this job don't have any say in what goes on. This comes from the top. McCarthy says this is what he wants and everyone below him (the whole dept) must follow or risk demotion or removal from their assignment.
To those saying just do your job and they will leave you alone, BS!!! Thats not the problem. The PO's, Sgts, Lts, etc, etc are not your children and don't want to be treated as such. Thats the problem. Don't talk down to people!!! The management skills on this job are nonexistent!!!!
could someone post the order on the legal criteria for stopping someone and writing a contact card?....basis for a lawsuit eventually?
onymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
You referred to 025 as "working" district. As if 010, her last stop, isn't. Though it doesn't get the mention of say...007 or 011, 010 is far and away one of the busiest (working) districts. Click over to Zone 10 sometimes. Most days, 010 has more shit going than 011.
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Actually 010 isn't busier than 011, its just that some of the POs won't and some sergeants won't shut the fuck up. They feel the need to go into detail about every little thing and unnecessarily tying up the air with nonsense. Stop trying to justify why you aren't doing your job over the air. Just code the damn thing. People have been complaining about this for decades. But please 010, just shut the fuck up already and code it. And stop coming over the air like there is an emergency and then ask for lunch. Also for the 1000th time, shitheads fighting each other is not an emergency. Again please shut the fuck up already.
2/13/2015 09:12:00 PM
Oh please the only reason that 011 would be busier on the air then 010 is because of that blow hard Kujo on 3rd watch. He is the King of what you just typed about 010. That guy takes up more air time on coding and getting out of a job the all of 010 combined. The reason for a code is so you don't explain what you're doing. That does not mean you give the code and THEN a 5 minute dissertation on the reason for the code.
Sgt Ferrer ---- Enough said!
To the tough guy saying he will ask Lemmer what the quota is. Yeah right! You are a stroke! Lemmer has never hurt anybody but if your a dog ass which u clearly are, hes going to call you out. Lemmer has helped more then he has hurt!
Thanks for checking in Capt. Lemmer!
Since when did writing case reports count as activity?
Barb can't even hold my muthaf***in jockstrap!
Off topic,
This 10 hour day blows in 005!
Call FOP and tell them you don't want it. It fucks everything up.
Don't let the "hostile" work environment eat you up and make you lax letting your guard down. Stay sharp be aware of those around you at all times. Don't satisfy the ComStat quota indexes, but don't embolden the animals either.
Continue to challenge the animal element and let them know who runs the show. When you get the "its all bullshit" attitude, you will become lax and get yourself or your co-worker hurt or killed.
Back each other up and lets all go home in one piece each and every night. A dip in the ComStat nonsense quotas will put your command on the proverbial accountability hotseat. Its quite embarrassing to get a public dressing down in front of your peers. Be safe fraternal brothers and sisters.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Doing a contact card is not violating any constitutional right. The police can stop and talk to anyone they want. The people are free to leave absent any reasonable articulable suspicion to the contrary. But let's not couch being lazy old timer with being some constitutional rights crusader. Honestly, it is not that difficult to keep these people off your back. Why do we need a NYPD style work stoppage? We just got a contract that WE ratified, the mayor just came out in the news in SUPPORT of us, it seems like NY style work stoppage is the default Pavlovian response to any time one guy or gal doesn't get his or her way. Like it or not the 1st and 16th are consideration for doing your job...not showing up and sitting on your ass all day. Sorry but I'm not buying it. I know Lemmer, and he is a tool, but how would you handle a lazy do nothing malcontent who is taking up space in the watch, not doing shit, and is protected by Union and labor laws? I would do exactly what was done.
2/14/2015 06:58:00 AM
So...
You served up this word salad for taking a somewhat useful tool like contact cards and turning it into a measuring unit for individual officer performance rating?
Proactive, badguy hunting Policing has been intentionally destroyed in Chicago but damnit we need
contact cards to use as a management weapon against the rank and file?
This dangerous, corrosive, slippery-slope shit is way beyond motivating the lazy and punishing dogs.
The police can stop and talk to anyone they want
wrong, you can engage anybody in conversation but as soon as you start talking about criminal activity its a stop
Anonymous Perry F'ing Mason said...
CPD Leadership is an oxymoron.
Next case.
Jumbo shrimp anyone đź”®
If you're 2nd watch by bid, there really aint shit they can do to you.
But I aint one to get attached to certain cars or starting times. 0530, 0700, 0800, 0900, I don't giva shit. Bottom line, I'm still on days.
The sole purpose Lt's & Cpt's whine about contact cards, is so they don't get yelled at during Comstat circle jerks. Shit has always rolled downhill. The Sup yells at them, so they pass the heat on to the PO.
Do u take jobs? During those jobs do you talk to a complaintant where no report or docentatuin is given? Then per g/o u should complete a contact card. If you come in with zeros it means that you had no calls that day? Doubtful. Coppers are just lazy. Don't forget if this gets pushed to an issue they can have you disciplined for not filling one out on a 19p job. Be smart because barb and masters and lemon head especially will use this option to people who revolt. Don't get jammed up. Not following a general order will get you everytime.. There is no grey area
Trust me LM is no dog, I should know because I am a DOG. I am here to do nothing but VRI minimum and backup my fellow officer. I laugh at the hard chargers or the do your job responses, it's 011 who the hell cares? This is a job, not some dam noble profession where police are afforded some special powers of slaying dragons. A freaking monkey could do a policemans job, so get off the high horse and realize we are nothing special. See it for what it is, a pay check. Pride in being CPD??? Hahahah yeah ok, we are a joke and so are you working PO's.
765B
WOW some of us are mushes!
Go head and demand an order in writing???
Dream land an order is given you must do it.
Now if you have a witness to the order that works. But do you think anyone want to put their start time in jeopardy?
May be you type a better narrative stating the action is an order? The white shirt will kick it back and tell you to rewrite it.
HQ is out of touch do some research many of the clouted assclown were in patrol a few months before being moved to cushy spots back in their days on patrol.
Hq reads trade magazines and steal ideas from New York.
Give them what they want garbage. you know who you talk too.
You eat at the hospital everyday.
You talk to alley mechanics.
Don't make revenue for the city!!! The collapse of tacts teams is only the beginning.
Tell them to take their car and shove it
Anonymous said...
LT KJ on 2nd watch is so far the best boss 011 has ever had!
2/14/2015 10:55:00 AM
I Agree. He's approachable, fair, good guy. It's not HIS FAULT that his bosses are complete morons.
Off Topic...
Some of us Old Timers can recall stories of call we have had from people who were in a state of undress and ....
handcuffed to a bedpost...
handcuffed to each other...
Locked in a dog kennel...
walked into the station or up to our car with handcuffs, maybe dragging the bedpost...
Get ready for more such incidents as more people see
FIFTY SHADES OF GREY.
PLEASE post them, with all the lurid details.
CNN Reports
"FIFTY SHADES OF IDIOTS: London Firefighters Brace
For An Increase In Calls
To the people in the USA: if you are going to watch this movie, do not attempt their actions. I don’t want my money going to helping you get out of handcuffs because you thought it would be fun to try. This is just wrong.
London (CNN) – You could call it the other “Fifty Shades of Grey” effect.
Firefighters in London are concerned that there could be a “spike” in emergency calls from people stuck in handcuffs and other sex toys after watching the new “Fifty Shades of Grey” film, released worldwide this week.
It would seem that E L James’ bestselling erotic novels have inspired more people to experiment sexually with sometimes embarrassing — and painful — results.
London Fire Brigade says that incidents where sexual adventurers get trapped in cuffs and rings have been steadily increasing year-on-year since the first “Fifty Shades of Grey” book was released in 2011.
…
But it’s not just embarrassing, it’s expensive.
The brigade reports that each incident costs British taxpayers at least $452 (ÂŁ295) and estimates incidents have cost a total of nearly $615,000 (ÂŁ400,000).'
I understand how the officers in 011 feel, over here in 002 if you dont write enough contact cards they make you perform a "contact card mission?" I kidd you not!
Ask anyone in 002 on 2nd watch.
They actually force the poor sergeant to ride in the same car with you for over an hour, and they point out people to field contact.
Isnt this illegal? I could not believe it until I heard it on the radio today.
Can anyone comment on this type of activity? Does it happen in any other district?
A "Contact Card Missin?" What the hell is that???? Head hunting?
Anyone, please help!!!!
I and my partners were dump off of our car for not having activity in our beat. We had activity throughout the district but that was not good enough. My partners and I will now have time to work on our lip gloss applications and hair. Screw you 019 midnights.
Anonymous said...
Since when did writing case reports count as activity?
2/14/2015 01:22:00
I'm in the burbs. We used to have reports as a category at check off. It didn't count for anything but say you didn't have any other activity but did paper all day. They wouldn't say anything b/c of the reports. Other people were doing to/froms.
Anonymous said...
Barb West is a true leader in this Department. I loved her when she was West-Givens and I love her even more now. It would serve the Department well if we had more leaders like Commander Barbara West.
There are just too many damn lazy do nothing people in the Chicago Police Department. I will do everything in my power to ensure she's a Deputy Chief by the end of the year. You folks might as well get on board, because she ain't going anywhere anytime soon.
2/14/2015 05:43:00 AM
Now that's some funny shit! Thanks for the laugh!
Anonymous said...
019 does it. Demands 5 from the beat cars; 10 from tact. The Capt told the roll calls the other day.
2/14/2015 07:30:00 AM
You mean that simpering XO that lived in caps or downtown his whole career? The one whose do-nothing wife is catered to for years now?
I'd ignore that robot.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
What does the union say about this?
2/14/2015 02:05:00 AM
Let's see, maybe they would say put it in writing, file a grievance, provide proof! Step up dude, do it for the team.
Anonymous said...
Sgt. Ferrer ---- Enough said!
2/14/2015 12:55 PM
Him AGAIN?
Jayzus!
You'd think he would STFU and stay out of the way.
Just remind him about how he cried to his clout because he F.A.I.L.E.D the FTO exam back in 1998/99...
Then imagine everybody in 011's horror when he made Sergeant...
Many more deserving coppers in 011 were condemned to being Blue Shirts for life. Not that there's any dishonor in that but WTF with these people (and folks) with The Devil's luck on this job?
Lol @ Barb "My Pillow Is My Bestest Friend" West.
Anonymous said...
Since when did writing case reports count as activity?
2/14/2015 01:22:00 PM
Old Timer ... There was a time when it did count as activity otherwise cops would be blowing off paper jobs to go after something else.
One thing that Pena and a few other DCs did that was dumb was not allow cops to make her beloved CONTACT CARDS from info on case reports, some DCs didn’t care. Case reports didn't list details like height, weight clothing unless you put them in the Narrative. If the Dicks or anyone else actually wanted to use such info they would look in Contact Cards first and not laboriously sift through GOCRs. Pena would have had her precious Contact Cards and P.O.s their activity for VRI or whatever. But no one ever said she was smart.
While management has some leeway to fuck with your start times and such, any obvious and/or excessive deviations from your normal routine and treatment following being counseled should be extensively documented
2/14/2015 03:12:00 AM
Management can put you on any start time they want and any car they want within a two hour period. You can document all you want pal. Maybe read your contract once in a while.
Several points in clarity need to be made:
1. In an Ill Labor Board Case in the early '80's "Antosh Frano and Smith" ,(originating out of Gangs West or North I forget after the years),the Labor Board held that splitting up of partners and/or changing long held assignments was disciplinary. The city lost the case.It was upheld again in the late 80's in a Labor Board case from 10th Dist that the city settled the day before trial. So feel free to use the courts that are available to you. The Ill Labor Board is free to file,they will assign state investigators to your problem,drag the offending party down to give statements attempting to justify their actions and will bring charges if warranted. Bring your counseling form and the sheets from your watch showing a change in long held assignment and file against the person who moved you. This of course only works if you have enough activity to show you are working and they are screwing you because of a specific type of missing "non quota" activity.In the 10th district case it was moving citations. So the precedence is there.
2. For all you saying its just a CC, no its a government record tracking the whereabouts of a citizen.We have all seen the GVR's showing contact card info on the victims and shooters GOING BACK YEARS! You are correct you are not violating their rights by talking to them the violation comes from filing an information report (that what a contact card is)that is then used to keep tabs on a citizen that the city has no legitimate/legal reason to track. I am not including gang bangers etc are not i in the above statement before all you whiners start in.
3 Yes everyone can find a CC in 11.That's not hard, but to find one on 1134 is, since the beat for the most part is the station its parking lots the EMMD facility and a a couple of schools not a hell of a lot going on.Since the "if its not one your beat it doesn't count" mentality is as retarded as a Mcnugget being in charge of a police dept. you can figure out where that's going think of the police man in the old McDonalds commercial.
4. Over 50,000 contact cards in 2014 and over 50 murders (not counting the death investigations they are hiding)Yeah Contact cards are working.
To the tough guy saying he will ask Lemmer what the quota is. Yeah right! You are a stroke! Lemmer has never hurt anybody but if your a dog ass which u clearly are, hes going to call you out. Lemmer has helped more then he has hurt!
The only "people"(I use the term loosly) that lemmer ever helps is lemmer and his c**k s*cking spies
THANK YOU.... Code it out...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
LT KJ on 2nd watch is so far the best boss 011 has ever had!
2/14/2015 10:55:00 AM
I'll give you he's far from the worst, but best ? not even close you do a grave dishonor to Commander Kupczek, Capt Dahlberg, Capt Harte, and several others. KJ isn't even in their class.
thank you 12:55.... just code it out. 020 listen up...
how many people live in Chicago if every officer writes 2-3 contacts card a day. Every citizen name would be on file 2 or 3 times within a year or certain people wink wink will have 20-40 contact card on them, will they then qualify to be booted or arrested
And there you have it in his own words... Don't do anything except enough for vri. This guy wants to give some big breaking news and create some big stand but please do enough for vri. It's blood money and you just proved how soft you really are and how addicted to it you are. Falling right into rahms plan. You don't send a message by doing enough for vri because that is actually still more than normal. You wanna hurt you do what nypd did zero! If everyone gets 3 arrest in the whole district and 5 contact cards and 5 Parkers each month that's still a lot of arrests. 300 officers getting 3 arrests for the month is 900 arrests. 1500 Parkers and 1500 contact cards.. Yeah u send a real clear message with that. Stop being fake. You do zeros or keep your mouth shut. Do enough for vri... Laughable
And there you have it in his own words... Don't do anything except enough for vri. This guy wants to give some big breaking news and create some big stand but please do enough for vri. It's blood money and you just proved how soft you really are and how addicted to it you are. Falling right into rahms plan. You don't send a message by doing enough for vri because that is actually still more than normal. You wanna hurt you do what nypd did zero! If everyone gets 3 arrest in the whole district and 5 contact cards and 5 Parkers each month that's still a lot of arrests. 300 officers getting 3 arrests for the month is 900 arrests. 1500 Parkers and 1500 contact cards.. Yeah u send a real clear message with that. Stop being fake. You do zeros or keep your mouth shut. Do enough for vri... Laughable
I agree. The city holds all the cards with VRI. They can change the variables whenever they want. Coppers are so hooked on the OT they'll jump through any requirement hoops that Rahm and McNumbnuts put in front of them.
Since when did writing case reports count as activity?
Are you serious? Answering your call, doing case reports, stolen cars, tows, parkers are all part of your job. Do you really think event numbers/smoke and mirrors, and contact card/smoke and mirrors are real work.
Doing a case report means you got a job, you responded to a job, you did paper. That is our job. What do you define as activity? IF a car did 5 case reports he was out there answering his calls, you gotta have less than 9 years on the job and are brainwashed. What do contact cards do, seriously what do they mean, its all bullshit son.
I would purposely only do recovered vehicles, tows and any bullshit I could do so not to bring in contact cards. CC's are bullshit to make it look like we are doing police work, it started in NY and now we do it. Its bullshit fool.
If the FOP doesn't take any action then any police officer should contact:
Mac Arthur Justice Center at Northwestern University
* Sheila Bedi
* Locke E. Bowman
* David J. Bradford
* David Shapiro
* Alexa Van Brunt
Chicago Police Department Contact Cards directive is not followed by the Department thereby violating the 1st amendment rights of persons contact carded. Data base has persons contact carded 10 years ago, the department directive was not followed by the two units responsible for maintaining and purging this data hard copy and electronic!
File a whistle blower law suit win win situation!
When you see Mr. Clean w/ the Chesire Grin Bubba Starks you can thank him for Barb. He saw her leadership qualities early on & made sure she rose through the ranks. So when you ask why this Dept. is so F'd up look back 10 years and you can see who's responsible
Ole Babs be sayin, Where's my pillow?"
You mean that simpering XO that lived in caps or downtown his whole career? The one whose do-nothing wife is catered to for years now?
Her and her partner do more in a week in Clark St than you've ever done in your career. You're a 023 person, because if you were from 019, you'd know. You're probably one if the desk assholes too.
To the people in the USA: if you are going to watch this movie, do not attempt their actions. I don’t want my money going to helping you get out of handcuffs because you thought it would be fun to try. This is just wrong.
Ahh, lighten up man. Had several encounters of couples chained together due to romantic misadventures. Handling them can be a source of great humor.
They are obviously very embarrassed. And desparate. They would like to be helped discretely.
But you have investigate. Just to be sure that they aren't some escaped modern day "Bonnie and Clyde."
They were always good for a few laughs at someone else's expense.
Many of you need to read the order on contact cards its reasonable belief or prob cause to intiate a contact card. The order also says dont do one if you have done any cpd paper case report,arrest, anov,ticket etc. Remember everywhere this bs compstat has been there has been lawsuits galore. Fuck these boses they wont be there when you get sued. In my district the bosses want contact cards for anovs and traffic tickets which is against the order under the guise that you cant track
anovs. They know its wrong but they want to keep their spots and look good at the compstat meeting. Dont do them unless you have to justify it by qouting the order. You did an arrest no card you do ticket no card you do anov no card. Period. We have to put an end to this. By the way if crime accross the city is down then why would contact cards need to be up? Less crime less police contact less contact cards right? Not with these morons. A sgt that knows!
You must work somewhere tucked FAR away from the streets. You cannot do a contact card on anyone anymore, its been that way for a year or so. A contact card can only be completed for investigatory stops, aka resonable suspicion.
&&&&&&&&
If u respond to a 911call of a suspicious person and the suspicious person is gone but you find the caller and talk to them regarding the suspicious person giving a description etc per general order u do a contact card. No other paper is given and u code it. You are conducting an investigation. Every call you are conducting some sort of service or investigation. That's why there is a box for other and explain in narrative. Know what u are talking about. The end.
Do u take jobs? During those jobs do you talk to a complaintant where no report or docentatuin is given? Then per g/o u should complete a contact card. If you come in with zeros it means that you had no calls that day? Doubtful. Coppers are just lazy. Don't forget if this gets pushed to an issue they can have you disciplined for not filling one out on a 19p job. Be smart because barb and masters and lemon head especially will use this option to people who revolt. Don't get jammed up. Not following a general order will get you everytime.. There is no grey area
2/14/2015 03:29:00 PM
You might want to read the order PPO
Anonymous said...
While management has some leeway to fuck with your start times and such, any obvious and/or excessive deviations from your normal routine and treatment following being counseled should be extensively documented
2/14/2015 03:12:00 AM
Management can put you on any start time they want and any car they want within a two hour period. You can document all you want pal. Maybe read your contract once in a while.
2/14/2015 07:42:00 PM
Reading is a skill numbnuts. Try reading the original post again before you come here trying to be all hard dropping stupid ass responses. Original post right on the money that's why he or she worded it as written. If you're happy with being a puppet then continue doing what you're doing you ball-less punk. You're part of the reason why this job hasn't evolved since we won the right to overtime for court and being able to accumulate time on the books. Go sniff some supervisors balls you little lap dog.
If you are seriously recommending contacting, and acting in concert with the MacArthur Law Center, you are the lowest life form and the biggest piece of shit copper I've ever encountered.
The pussies on this job now make me sick; trust none of them!
Seven years can't come soon enough..
Do the bustouts with shopping carts still prowl the alleys looking for scrap metal and cans? Back in the day these poor bastards would be stopped eight times per watch and contact carded. Some names were run so many times over the air that we memorized them. Some things never change.
The same thing is done in 002
Anonymous said...
could someone post the order on the legal criteria for stopping someone and writing a contact card?....basis for a lawsuit eventually?
2/14/2015 12:43:00 PM
Listen you troll, if you want the info figure out for yourself how to get it. Don't come looking on this website for answers to questions for your personal vendetta. And if you are the police, you know where to find it.
What is the push for all these contacts cards anyhow? Thank God I don't have to follow suit like 1/2 the men in blue. I started my own business 14 years ago and now it's flourishing. No contact cards, no movers, no ANOVS and maybe a few parkers here and there. I love it. I'm in a bid spot in 019 on days and already stuck on a later car. Really not much you can do to me, LOL. I make more than a deputy with my two paychecks combined and don't have to kiss the mayor's ass or superintendent's ass. Sure I have to be nice to my clients but I do that anyway as a professional. My advice to all you deaf ears out there: Start your own biz and be your own boss. I got suspended once for 30 days and made money while off than working plus let's just say I got my 30 days back about 3 times over the years ;-)
The officer in question had 10 case reports, 5 arrests, numerous movers and contact cards for the "Evaluated week" - just no contact cards on his beat, because as a military vet and decent guy, he rides on everyone else's jobs to provide back-up to all the 10-99 units on days
If we're talking about 1134,this is indeed a damned shame. I defy anybody, in any other district or unit to find a harder working, more professional PO. If he's not down on his own job, he's forever backing up units on other jobs. Hell, he's usually the first in when school units call for backup. He's also quick to jump the border to assist 010 units needing backup.
Seriously, with all the dog-asses on the watch, they pick arguably the hardest working PO ( along with 1133) to fuck with.
And people wonder why some supervisors are so reviled by the blue shirts.
When you see Mr. Clean w/ the Chesire Grin Bubba Starks you can thank him for Barb. He saw her leadership qualities early on & made sure she rose through the ranks. So when you ask why this Dept. is so F'd up look back 10 years and you can see who's responsible
2/14/2015 09:11:00 PM
We can also thank Deb Kirby for helping Barb West climb the merit ladder. Thanks, Deb!
Anonymous said...
could someone post the order on the legal criteria for stopping someone and writing a contact card?....basis for a lawsuit eventually?
File a Foi if you're that desperate
Seven years can't come soon enough..
2/15/2015 02:56:00 AM
Then you'll look handsome with that second gold bar on yo sleeve.
Mazel tov!
He should have bought her new pillow!
WAIT till 10 hour Days!!!
No Rham No McJersey =No 10 Hour Days
******VOTE*************
Before Our Lives are HELL
Anonymous 011 2nd Watch DOG said...
Trust me LM is no dog, I should know because I am a DOG. I am here to do nothing but VRI minimum and backup my fellow officer. I laugh at the hard chargers or the do your job responses, it's 011 who the hell cares? This is a job, not some dam noble profession where police are afforded some special powers of slaying dragons. A freaking monkey could do a policemans job, so get off the high horse and realize we are nothing special. See it for what it is, a pay check. Pride in being CPD??? Hahahah yeah ok, we are a joke and so are you working PO's.
765B
2/14/2015 03:45:00 PM
You should be so proud!!!!!! You are the joke
Anonymous said...
Off topic,
This 10 hour day blows in 005!
Call FOP and tell them you don't want it. It fucks everything up.
2/14/2015 01:41:00 PM
It's not worth the 3 days off and four days off when your weekend comes around? Give it a chance...
You must work somewhere tucked FAR away from the streets. You cannot do a contact card on anyone anymore, its been that way for a year or so. A contact card can only be completed for investigatory stops, aka resonable suspicion.
&&&&&&&&
If u respond to a 911call of a suspicious person and the suspicious person is gone but you find the caller and talk to them regarding the suspicious person giving a description etc per general order u do a contact card. No other paper is given and u code it. You are conducting an investigation. Every call you are conducting some sort of service or investigation. That's why there is a box for other and explain in narrative. Know what u are talking about. The end.
2/15/2015 01:15:00 AM
Thats why I said investigatory. The point was before, you could do a contact card on anybody you had a conversation with. Now you cannot. Know what you are talking about. The end.
Anonymous said...
Off topic,
This 10 hour day blows in 005!
Call FOP and tell them you don't want it. It fucks everything up.
2/14/2015 01:41:00 PM
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You're probably one of the guys who begged for it & called on a regular basis to beg for it to happen.
Well, now you got it!
ENJOY!
I can proudly say I have never written a contact card during the 18 years on this job. I refuse. I think everybody in this city has at least 3 contact cards on them already. This city couldn't care less about reducing crime or stopping murders. They don't care if you write movers, parkers or arrest anyone. They just want those contact cards. It's a joke.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
019 does it. Demands 5 from the beat cars; 10 from tact. The Capt told the roll calls the other day.
2/14/2015 07:30:00 AM
You mean that simpering XO that lived in caps or downtown his whole career? The one whose do-nothing wife is catered to for years now?
I'd ignore that robot.
2/14/2015 07:00:00 PM
============================
The Capt you're crying about made Det., Sgt. and Lt. all legit. So when a boss asks you to come work for him, you'd say "no"?
I hear your mommy calling you, loser....
Your spaghetti-o's are ready.
That is messed up ,going after the people who do their jobs in 11. I see what they are doing to 1134. Are they doing the same things to 1133 on second watch?
Not long ago there was a afm teletype message to "preserve all contact cards" was that for litigation in the future? Are you trying to rope more hard working coppers into your maze of stupidity and disinformation? Sorry won't play "you haven't know the rules barb before you break the rules it makes it more fun!"
Anonymous said...
You mean that simpering XO that lived in caps or downtown his whole career? The one whose do-nothing wife is catered to for years now?
Her and her partner do more in a week in Clark St than you've ever done in your career. You're a 023 person, because if you were from 019, you'd know. You're probably one if the desk assholes too.
2/14/2015 11:28:00 PM
Wrong dickwad, been watching their bullshit tours for years now. That prick XO MR allowed them to set their own hours shooting basketball at the park and going out on bikes for a few hours in nice weather. They talk the big talk tho. Just like your reply, is that you???
Anonymous said...
019 does it. Demands 5 from the beat cars; 10 from tact. The Capt told the roll calls the other day.
2/14/2015 07:30:00 AM
You mean that simpering XO that lived in caps or downtown his whole career? The one whose do-nothing wife is catered to for years now?
I'd ignore that robot.
2/14/2015 07:00:00 PM
I was in the academy with the guy you are bad mouthing. He is OK, I never had a problem with him or his wife. She works the street, her and her partner stay busy with the knuckleheads on Clark St. 019 used to have two big drunken cops on Clark St. Useless and really no damn good. They were famous for starting fights and calling 10-1's after they MF'd someone and got popped int he nose. Bill L. is a damn nice man, doesn't drink, follows the rules and treats people decently. What he doesn't do is get on this blog and get into anonymous character assassination.
Overheard some guys talking that in addition to chasing down event numbers for dispersals and contact cards, 011 tact teams are now out making dope buys with their fearless leader who thinks he's still at homan square. What could possibly go wrong?
"Anonymous 011 2nd Watch DOG said...
Trust me LM is no dog, I should know because I am a DOG. I am here to do nothing but VRI minimum and backup my fellow officer. I laugh at the hard chargers or the do your job responses, it's 011 who the hell cares? This is a job, not some dam noble profession where police are afforded some special powers of slaying dragons. A freaking monkey could do a policemans job, so get off the high horse and realize we are nothing special. See it for what it is, a pay check. Pride in being CPD??? Hahahah yeah ok, we are a joke and so are you working PO's.
765B
2/14/2015 03:45:00 PM
You should be so proud!!!!!! You are the joke
2/15/2015 10:43:00 AM"
Wake up & smell the coffee champ, the joke is in your hands, now Beat it!
Spaghetti-Os kick ASS!
"I can proudly say I have never written a contact card during the 18 years on this job. I refuse."
Amen. Finally someone in CAPS with a spine.
The Capt you're crying about made Det., Sgt. and Lt. all legit. So when a boss asks you to come work for him, you'd say "no"?
I hear your mommy calling you, loser....
Your spaghetti-o's are ready.
2/15/2015 03:33:00 PM
I love when dummies resort to "so and so made it all legit", who gives a eff? That's not what this poster was saying.
This guys just another clog in the wheel. This legit guy also had a heavy hand downtown in deciding how many cops are needed, as in handing out time due. Ask anyone who knows you know it all.
Tracy has no hand in making him Captain. Yeah, right.
fuck them im not writing shit!!! they can kiss my ass
Merit Lt. K. Johnson is nothing but a politically connected suck-up who will fuck anyone in his sight so as not to be made to be a real "Leader" and do such by example. I don't work at HQ but I learned that KJ under the shadow of now booted Ladner really fucked over an Officer who had a seriously sick child in the hospital for three days. In short, KJ SPARS the officer for allegedly not showing up to work (all while KNOWING the officer had a serious medical situation with his child), AWOPS the guy all three days in question, and initiates a CR#. I know the officer who is a standup cop who was pulled twice from CPD to go serve in the War on Terror in Iraq and did some outstanding work against organized crime elements in 010 back in the day. Yea, KJ, one piece of leadership advice, whenever one of your subordinates has an emergency in the future, if you are notified of their problem, be a true leader and check up on your people and take care of them. I heard the Officer was not even offered sickness in family for those days, instead you took his pay. Oh and all this while sitting in the Merit waiting list to become a LT. That explains it.
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