Really Pushing the Camera Thing
Both papers had articles Friday:
- [Sun Times] - When Chicago Police Officer Michael Edens began his career 12 years ago, the only high-tech device he had on his uniform was his radio.
But for the past three weeks, he’s been wearing a body camera on his chest in a pilot program in the Shakespeare District. He still is getting used to activating it every time he makes a traffic stop or in other encounters with the public.
“It’s not second-nature yet,” he said.
- [Tribune] - The body camera being tested by Chicago police Officer Michael Edens can easily be mistaken for a small garage opener.
Once he clicks on a small button in the middle of the camera and hears two beeps, its tiny lens and speakers capture the views and sounds in front of Edens' vest.
During his patrols in recent weeks in the Logan Square neighborhood, Edens has noticed subtle changes in the public's behavior when he shows up to service calls and announces he's recording video and audio.
Amusingly, the justification for all this electronic media is the Ferguson and New York cases, neither of which involved police misconduct, but you know - racism and brutality and all that bull.
When are the bangers and the brass and the ball-less politicians going to be wearing these things anyway?
When are the bangers and the brass and the ball-less politicians going to be wearing these things anyway?
Labels: info for the police
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
57 Comments:
Here's the real story:
"He still is getting used to activating it every time he makes a traffic stop or in other encounters with the public."
“It’s not second-nature yet,” he said.
See where this is going? Copper will take action to protect himself before activating the camera and the libtards will explode with cover-up and conspiracy stories because it was not on video.
Tool
It is all so very PC.
Transparency doesn't mean the public has the right see every single interaction... maybe the white shirts should lead by example and record 24/7. Are the white shirts not the ones who make all of the important policy decisions that the rest of the department is required to follow? Their decisions and the reasoning, both written and unwritten, should be public.
Each and every Alderman and the Mayor should be required to wear a recording camera. Although, I have it from a pretty good source that one Alderman is already wearing one. Not a camera but a wire! LOL Sleep well
Alderthieves.
Taser! Taser! Taser!
They're making money hand over fist.
Pols and police executives nationwide are getting fat on the stock.
If the politicians wear them, then all the "back-door deals" would be seen.
Bad idea.
February 13, 2015 stolen vehicle and armed offender trying to flee the scene driving away and crashing stolen vehicle into parked vehicle then shots fired! w. 73rd st and S. Ada St
This pud from 014 who wears all his trumped up ribbons on the street (who does that except old old timers and north siders) must be on track for merit promotion. Drinking the company koolaid for the news.....shameful. Its good hes noticed "subtle" changes in the way his gentrified community reacts to him, im sure this means instead of them saying im sorry when he locks up his dopw from North Ave or responds to his barking dog complaint ...they now say "im sorry officer sir!" THERES A REASON THEY DIDNT PILOT THESE CAMERAS IN FAST DISTRICTS IN THE HOOD!!!!
"When are the bangers and the brass and the ball-less politicians going to be wearing these things anyway?"
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Fat chance of that. I remember when GPS devices were being installed in the squad cars. Fleet Management called in Mayor Daley's limousines for installation of hizzoner's GPS; his security detail wanted tracking devices for his safety.
Daley said no fucking way, don't ask again. Daley refused to allow his own cars to be equipped with GPS. What's good for you is not good for the crooked bastards.
Where the fuck are they going to get the millions to fund the storage? That's what I want to know? How many more patrol positions will be eliminated to acquire this funding?
When will Rahm wear one while on city business?
"Edens has noticed subtle changes in the public's behavior when he shows up to service calls and announces he's recording video and audio."
My take on this? Won't matter to the real problems who will still be shooting at you down the gangway or pouring boiling water on babydaddy. Decent people will tend to draw away, avoid, not stop and chat, laugh, casually give neighborhood goings-on info like they used to.
Reminds me of -- When a bigger organization gobbled up my smaller health care provider, I had to sign a form "waiving doctor-patient confidentiality." My doc is hip, works against the system to get you what you need and snickers at it, but as for the rest of them, one learns to lie, omit, and consider very carefully what little one does say. This lack of trust naturally leads to better care, right?
Kind of the same thing with these camera rigs, I think. Two-edged sword. Be good to have it for proof in a hot situation, but will lower the "quality of day-to-day interaction" overall, create an effect opposite to the one desired by "community policing" advocates.
My two cents...
"...began his career twelve years ago..."
Still a rookie.
Give it a rest, SCC, these aren't a bad thing.
The Government at all levels has spent billions of dollars attempting to build trust between the Public and Police. The camera will cause us to lose that respect and relationship. Many people who would have sought the police to solve problems may now take the law into their own hands to address those issues. And as with everything else, where is the accountability at the highest levels of government? Put those cameras on legislators when they cut deals with Contractors. Instead of just giving polygraph exams to applicants for low level jobs, how about giving them to EVERYONE IN GOVERNMENT? Once again, the Cop is the lab rat for Social Justice Experimentation. "G"
They can hearu at all times, even when off. Beware
The smoldering wrecks of what were once thriving newspapers are hoping the Department will release some juicy video clips of cops beating unarmed (fill-in-the-blank) youths.
Of course they will edit out anything where the whatever posed a deadly threat to the officer as that wouldn't be right and might bring an extortion plan from Jesse J or Al Not-so-Sharpton.
"You do not have my permission to record. Please communicate in writing."
Never. Thugs will never wear cameras.
We will. We will all have them in five years. Accept it or leave. The choice is yours.
I like the idea, got a fake looking camera going to use the line "your being recorded" just to see that reaction, will let you know the story in the real news room SCC!
I hope these cameras don't have an LED red light when working. No need giving the bad guys an edge.
Get the Illinois law changed on eavesdropping and make Illinois a one party state. I seriously doubt that many backroom political deals would be made if one party had the ability to record the conversation. Can you imagine if the mayor called the super into his office and told him to promote so and so to commander? And this was secretly recorded? A game changer for sure. That is why they do not want this.
hey can you mother-fuck someone then turn the camera on?
If police are required to wear them so should people released for home confinement.
Isn't that right legal affairs? The law would work the same way for people confined at home by the state.
Next make teachers wear body cameras because "it's for the children". The same issues apply to teachers at schools.
Maybe the CTU would oppose this because Karen Lewis has more testosterone than Dr. Dean Sr. PhD
I think folks on our side should use videos to show the truth. The Lying lib media will always use outdated photos of Black criminals to make them look like sweet kids, instead of the live, in our face swearing thugs they are at the time of criminal mayhem. The video of (not so gentle giant) Michael Brown manhandling a small Asian shop keeper made the difference in breaking the media's racist cop narrative.
Speaking of lying libs, the new head of the FBI is apparently a typical pandering liberal who thinks police pick on Black males for no other reason except RACISM.
The British press (Daily Mail) does a much better job of covering American crime and law enforcement than our pathetic MSM:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2950949/FBI-director-James-B-Comey-wade-race-debate-unprecedented-speech-policing-attitudes-black-communities.html
Follow the money !
Body camera video from Las Vegas Metro police. Shooting occurred on Monday night.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2015/feb/13/officers-body-camera-captures-confrontation-led-sh/
Horrible system, requiring you to manually turn it on each time. no way you will ever get 100% (human error) use, so when something bad happens and no camera, burden of proof switched and copper in trouble.
Sunlight is the best disenfectant. Only bad cops need be afraid. Power to the people!
Eventually, these cameras will show the true nature of black and latino gang members. Then they will be quietly discarded like everything else that shows the true nature of these fatherless dogs. Wait and see....
I see a lot of 4th amendment violations here when the POLICE come into your home with those cameras running. Remember kids even those dashcam cameras are running even when the car is not. Watch yourselves!!
643 am You are a true example of a moron!
There are departments all over the damn country that have had body cameras and shoulder mic cameras since the damn things got miniaturized enough to not be excessively heavy.
I've been wearing a camera at Finance since the middle of last year due to certain new things coming.
Regards,
Guy on a bike.
Can I wear my body camera in Steamworks?
Firstly...
On the public way...you are not required by Law to announce you are recording.
Fuck the mopes and record them...then after they act the fool...
"oh, I forgot...I'm wearing a body camera...and now you're fucked sir/ma'am"
Join the Screen Actors Guild, then every time someone captures you on video, they owe you union scale, even more for a speaking part
Body cameras will be the death of proactive policing for the patrol officer. If you encourage body cameras you are not the working police….PERIOD. Now if I do traffic all day: write TVB’s, work 99, write parkers, do a few accident reports, in a slow district, then cameras probably wouldn’t affect me as much. But on the flipside if I deal with the lawless animal barbarians on the street, day in and day out, you can take that camera and shove it up you’re A$$. To the pro-camera fools - an officer can NEVER make a simple mistake or minor lapse of judgment because you are now recorded. The liberal will call this accountability….I call it foolishness. These liberal far left clowns have no idea what we deal with. The criminal element is not held to any standard of law, but we can’t even use a swear word in any dealings with them? And if an expletive is caught on camera to control a situation you think IPRA will be ok with that. “Have fun serving yo time fool, I have an associate degree from Daley college in criminable justice and you should not have swore at that 9 time convicted felon.” If you are content with living a mistake free life than cheer on these garbage cameras. They are a waste of resources and not needed. It’s a shame to say this but these body cameras will cause a loss of life for police officers because its forcing us to be less hands on and less confrontational in fear of receiving a beef. Take all the money that is set toward these pointless cameras and hire more police. That is the only thing that keeps the public and police officers safe. Lastly, you think for one second that the 1,000,000 hours of perfect lawful police camera footage is going to be shown to the public? Of course not, the one incident where a cop screws up is the only thing that the far left media will focus on. Cameras do not help us.
Off Topic but good:
By Barbara Goldberg
NEW YORK (Reuters) - New York City, once notorious for high crime, broke a record on Thursday with no murders reported for 10 straight days, police said.
The historic calm achieved at 12:01 a.m. Thursday comes on the heels of a notable year - murders in New York City in 2014 fell to an all-time low of 328, the fewest since the New York Police Department started keeping reliable records in 1963.
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/york-city-sets-record-no-murders-10-days-143925525.html
Yes they will be bosses will be making a bundle the same as they did on the redlight camera stock
A little OT, but thanks to my favorite 014 car for responding to the driveway ticket today. He moved before the tow arrived, but thanks for trying. Much appreciated! Stay warm.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
hey can you mother-fuck someone then turn the camera on?
2/14/2015 10:19:00 AM
Sure, just remember it goes back 30seconds before you hit the button to 'turn it on', so it already picked up your MF.
How the fuck did Hillard get this contract. Terry was dumber then shit and knew it every day. The late John Thomas was 1st. Dep and ran the show. He was the best and Terry made it out that he and John were close after John passed suddenlt. "NOT"
Yerry is making tall ass $$$ after he left and no one can say why !
Terry had no use for copper' of another color and showed it after he got the Supt job. Chuck Ramsey should of gotten it but Daley needed a dumb-bell and not someome one with a brain like Ramsey.
Ramsey was a good man and left the city and never came back.
Anonymous said...
Sunlight is the best disenfectant. Only bad cops need be afraid. Power to the people!
2/14/2015 01:16:00 PM
Ha! You MUST be a civilian.
"Taser! Taser! Taser!
"They're making money hand over fist.
"Pols and police executives nationwide are getting fat on the stock."
2/14/2015 05:27:00 AM
...and how many people have been killed by their "less-than-lethal, sometimes" main product so far?
Weeds out the ones with heart problems, anyway...I wonder how many shares of Taser are held by "you've lived a complete life" Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel?
Just musing on this icy night...
Stay safe & warm, all.
Follow the money.
We are getting these cameras from Taser International the same company that sells to us our tasers.
Who got the original contract for tasers for the city? We know who.
Sad, another connected contract?
Was the bidding process open and transparent?
Anonymous Lou said...
Off Topic but good:
By Barbara Goldberg
NEW YORK (Reuters) - New York City, once notorious for high crime, broke a record on Thursday with no murders reported for 10 straight days, police said.
The historic calm achieved at 12:01 a.m. Thursday comes on the heels of a notable year - murders in New York City in 2014 fell to an all-time low of 328, the fewest since the New York Police Department started keeping reliable records in 1963.
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/york-city-sets-record-no-murders-10-days-143925525.html
2/14/2015 05:13:00 PM
Curious as to what the temperature's been in NYC the last ten days.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
How the fuck did Hillard get this contract. Terry was dumber then shit and knew it every day. The late John Thomas was 1st. Dep and ran the show. He was the best and Terry made it out that he and John were close after John passed suddenlt. "NOT"
Yerry is making tall ass $$$ after he left and no one can say why !
Terry had no use for copper' of another color and showed it after he got the Supt job. Chuck Ramsey should of gotten it but Daley needed a dumb-bell and not someome one with a brain like Ramsey.
Ramsey was a good man and left the city and never came back.
2/14/2015 06:45:00 PM
Ramsey scared the shit out of Daley's command rank ass-kissers.
Which in turn scared the shit out of Daley.
Ramsey was the kind of boss who made the clouted hidey-holers and functional morons with gold stars very concerned...
Chances were good that Ramsey was going to dank on some protected asses REAL HARD.
Hillard was an intellectually disinterested yes man who let too many bad bosses have their way.
Funny that those guys running that security consulting firm haven't papered him into taking a fall for something.
Yet...
"The body camera being tested by Chicago police Officer Michael Edens can easily be mistaken for a small garage opener."
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Why not then have all officers wear garage door openers instead? Cheaper, simpler and people will still think they are being taped. Just find a little phony lens to stick on the Genie Garage Door Opener.
check out this link. the camera is smaller than a garage door opener. it only costs 8.99. http://www.gearxs.com/GearXs-Mini-DV-MD80-DVR-Video-Camera
1:41pm....u must be his partner who wears his fitness medals on the street too. Go back to writing that blocking someones driveway ticket and leave the working police alone.
Anonymous said...
How the fuck did Hillard get this contract. Terry was dumber then shit and knew it every day. The late John Thomas was 1st. Dep and ran the show. He was the best and Terry made it out that he and John were close after John passed suddenlt. "NOT"
Yerry is making tall ass $$$ after he left and no one can say why !
Terry had no use for copper' of another color and showed it after he got the Supt job. Chuck Ramsey should of gotten it but Daley needed a dumb-bell and not someome one with a brain like Ramsey.
Ramsey was a good man and left the city and never came back.
2/14/2015 06:45:00 PM
He has to have something major on the daley crime family, he has the taser contract,all the bs extra police classes, he is a mufti-millionaire! Follow the money!!Who does he payoff?
Anonymous said...
Body cameras will be the death of proactive policing for the patrol officer. If you encourage body cameras you are not the working police….PERIOD. Now if I do traffic all day: write TVB’s, work 99, write parkers, do a few accident reports, in a slow district, then cameras probably wouldn’t affect me as much. But on the flipside if I deal with the lawless animal barbarians on the street, day in and day out, you can take that camera and shove it up you’re A$$. To the pro-camera fools - an officer can NEVER make a simple mistake or minor lapse of judgment because you are now recorded. The liberal will call this accountability….I call it foolishness. These liberal far left clowns have no idea what we deal with. The criminal element is not held to any standard of law, but we can’t even use a swear word in any dealings with them? And if an expletive is caught on camera to control a situation you think IPRA will be ok with that. “Have fun serving yo time fool, I have an associate degree from Daley college in criminable justice and you should not have swore at that 9 time convicted felon.” If you are content with living a mistake free life than cheer on these garbage cameras. They are a waste of resources and not needed. It’s a shame to say this but these body cameras will cause a loss of life for police officers because its forcing us to be less hands on and less confrontational in fear of receiving a beef. Take all the money that is set toward these pointless cameras and hire more police. That is the only thing that keeps the public and police officers safe. Lastly, you think for one second that the 1,000,000 hours of perfect lawful police camera footage is going to be shown to the public? Of course not, the one incident where a cop screws up is the only thing that the far left media will focus on. Cameras do not help us.
2/14/2015 05:01:00 PM
If you're still trying to be the working police in this day and age, you're either a complete moron or totally insane. Either way, stay the hell away from me.
This pud from 014 who wears all his trumped up ribbons on the street (who does that except old old timers and north siders) must be on track for merit promotion. Drinking the company koolaid for the news.....shameful. Its good hes noticed "subtle" changes in the way his gentrified community reacts to him, im sure this means instead of them saying im sorry when he locks up his dopw from North Ave or responds to his barking dog complaint ...they now say "im sorry officer sir!" THERES A REASON THEY DIDNT PILOT THESE CAMERAS IN FAST DISTRICTS IN THE HOOD!!!!
2/14/2015 06:43:00 AM
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Hey tough fast district hair gel... I wear all my dictator ribbons and metals AND Iam able to take time TOMORROW if I feel like the weight of my north side slow district is just to much.
Go rot in your fast/shit district... I'll bet my "pud" skinner that mine and your paycheck is the same amount douche.
1214 pm No, I'm not his partner. I'm speaking up for this Officer because he is a hard worker and a good Officer and he works in my district. You obviously don't know him because if you did you wouldn't make such ignorant comments. He was chosen to wear the camera. Why is it your business if he chooses to wear them, why are you so bothered? Did you not earn any ? There are more important things to worry about in life than the medals this officer proudly wears, get a life!
"He has to have something major on the daley crime family, he has the taser contract,all the bs extra police classes, he is a mufti-millionaire! Follow the money!!Who does he payoff?
2/15/2015 01:42:00 PM"
You left out the Background Checks, he's the vendor for that as well.
I'll put my camera on right after Rahm and his 50 Alderthieves wear theirs. It'd be for their own protection you know.
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